Will you cheat in gambling?

[len01]

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Of course I realized that it was wrong and as a grown-up man, I never done it again. Cheating online is possible for a skilled hacker and then it was also safer because they can use some tools to hide their identity. If their accounts get caught and close down, they can easily create another one and do the same thing again.

what I know is that fraud that occurs in online gambling is usually that they cheat from bonuses given by gambling parties and abuse KYC to benefit from these bonuses. for me cheating in physical gambling or online gambling is very different, I mean cheating online casino we sacrifice KYC or someone's personal data which has a very bad long term risk. but cheating in physical gambling as we have experienced we don't have to sacrifice our personal data and it's not too risky in the long run as long as we don't get caught by the casino owners

[masulum]

It happens very rare when someone can actually find and report a bug, and I think the rewards for that should be big. In my opinion, it should be like an additional game on the platform: finding and reporting a bug. But again, I think it would be less often than once in a year, if ever, when a bug worth reporting is found.

Front end or UI bugs maybe isn't get a big rewards, if we wants to found a critical bugs we need to be a programmers or like a white hacker. Since our money under casino provider accounts, they are easy to freeze our money if we are take advantages with that bug. Because take edvantage of it was like a cheating activity, I believe we will hard to withdraw our money after it happens..

[QueenVera]

As a morally upright person that does not like to cheat people, but gambles and has lost a lot of money to gambling in a casino where you have sometimes been cheated even without your knowledge or betting on sports, will you take an opportunity you get and go against your moral standards to cheat a casino or sportsbetting place, just so you can win big at least even once.

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

I know most people here won't accept this, but the facts is there are many here that would deny the fact that they won't take such opportunity if ever it comes, I'm not disputing that there are no generous people but let's be honest a good number of people would seize such opportunity to recover their loss if given a chance to because no one is happy to lose money, also why don't people quit after going through numerous losses to casinos or online sports betting if not for the fact that they're trying to recover their loss.the series of losses would even make one cheat without giving it a second thought.
 However it's very difficult to cheat in an online sports betting because I've not heard of any, it's either you come up with different strategies or look for possible ways to clear a bonus also the outcomes from most games claimed to be fixed are sometimes negative even when you pay to get those type of games it  still not 100% guaranteed most times, anyways the truth of the matter is that there are no 100% guaranteed tricks for winning in casino games and even if there's a good number of people here would take chances to win even if it's once.

[KTChampions]

I know most people here won't accept this, but the facts is there are many here that would deny the fact that they won't take such opportunity if ever it comes, I'm not disputing that there are no generous people but let's be honest a good number of people would seize such opportunity to recover their loss if given a chance to because no one is happy to lose money, also why don't people quit after going through numerous losses to casinos or online sports betting if not for the fact that they're trying to recover their loss.the series of losses would even make one cheat without giving it a second thought.
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Even if you do not talk about honesty, then I think most people here are adequate and would not cheat - simply because it is fraught with consequences and risks such as litigation or prison. The average person has a lot of opportunities to steal and commit petty crimes in everyday life, but I see that the majority behave adequately - and it seems to me not just because they are super honest, but because this is rational behavior.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I know most people here won't accept this, but the facts is there are many here that would deny the fact that they won't take such opportunity if ever it comes, I'm not disputing that there are no generous people but let's be honest a good number of people would seize such opportunity to recover their loss if given a chance to because no one is happy to lose money, also why don't people quit after going through numerous losses to casinos or online sports betting if not for the fact that they're trying to recover their loss.the series of losses would even make one cheat without giving it a second thought.
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Even if you do not talk about honesty, then I think most people here are adequate and would not cheat - simply because it is fraught with consequences and risks such as litigation or prison. The average person has a lot of opportunities to steal and commit petty crimes in everyday life, but I see that the majority behave adequately - and it seems to me not just because they are super honest, but because this is rational behavior.

One thing you must not forget to also consider is that, most things are easier said than done, most people in a bid to look or appear honest, most especially on a public forum as this will sure say that they will not cheat if they have the opportunity, but wait until the opportunity truly appear before them, then alone are we going to know who actually is honest and who is not..

Few days ago, while I've converted some bitcoins earned from my signature campaign to fiat through a crypto exchange and requested withdrawal to my bank account, i had the opportunity of cheating the exchange because they sent the money twice, money equivalent to $100 was sent twice to my bank account, just then, several thought began running in my head, i thought of keeping the money, and even when i decided i will return it, i waited for the exchange to contact me first, but they didn't, after the third day, i got myself up and contacted the exchange and told them the money i requested to withdraw 3 days ago was sent twice to my bank account, after they verified it was true, they provided an account and asked me send the other half to it, i did and after they verified receipt of the fund, the customer care i was in contact with told me that the entire management of the exchange is saying a big thank you to me, i was really happy and proud for doing what is right.

I tell you sincerely, Many will fall at the fore front of such temptation.

[Wiwo]

I know most people here won't accept this, but the facts is there are many here that would deny the fact that they won't take such opportunity if ever it comes, I'm not disputing that there are no generous people but let's be honest a good number of people would seize such opportunity to recover their loss if given a chance to because no one is happy to lose money, also why don't people quit after going through numerous losses to casinos or online sports betting if not for the fact that they're trying to recover their loss.the series of losses would even make one cheat without giving it a second thought.
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Even if you do not talk about honesty, then I think most people here are adequate and would not cheat - simply because it is fraught with consequences and risks such as litigation or prison. The average person has a lot of opportunities to steal and commit petty crimes in everyday life, but I see that the majority behave adequately - and it seems to me not just because they are super honest, but because this is rational behavior.

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Few days ago, while I've converted some bitcoins earned from my signature campaign to fiat through a crypto exchange and requested withdrawal to my bank account, i had the opportunity of cheating the exchange because they sent the money twice, money equivalent to $100 was sent twice to my bank account, just then, several thought began running in my head, i thought of keeping the money, and even when i decided i will return it, i waited for the exchange to contact me first, but they didn't, after the third day, i got myself up and contacted the exchange and told them the money i requested to withdraw 3 days ago was sent twice to my bank account, after they verified it was true, they provided an account and asked me send the other half to it, i did and after they verified receipt of the fund, the customer care i was in contact with told me that the entire management of the exchange is saying a big thank you to me, I was really happy and proud for doing what is right.

I tell you sincerely, Many will fall at the forefront of such temptation.

The thing is that most of the people who keep such money which they don't legally earn and if the company made a mistake most especially in the area of funding,  the best way to handle such a situation is to report the transaction to the support instead thinking and trying to play smart that will end in deep troubles for you as a person because I still remember a guy who's exchange account was blocked and banned for trying to cheat the exchange.

Most people are honourable enough and wise to report such a situation and seek redress just like  Fivestar4everMVP did in his case.

[maydna]

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Actually we are required to be honest because there is no other way but to be honest, if we continue to force fraud or take the opportunity when a system error occurs then eventually they will still find out and our account will be given a penalty, their security system is very tight so I think there is no loophole for us to play dirty.

And it's better not to try to abuse anything from the casino because it will only get our account in trouble. Perhaps, someone could use the opportunity to benefit from the casino and get out in time, but it would not be able to be done by someone else because the casino would have known about it and shut down the system's mistake. Sooner or later, the casinos will find out and will take action against the accounts of those who abuse them.

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Let alone cheating, using a strategy I still don't believe especially in slot games that I hear a lot from other people about them applying strategies so they can win the game.
For bugs, I have never found any bugs from a game, maybe other people have experienced it, but for myself never. You're right that if we report it when we find something like that, it's a good thing, and good things bring good things. Maybe when we report a problem, they will reward us for our report, it could be possible.  

People who claim to have a strategy to win the game intend to sell the strategy to others because they can't use it anymore. Arguing that they have already earned a lot is nonsense because if they can get a lot, why would they sell it to people?

I haven't found any bugs in the game either, but it would be better if we find them, we can report them to the casino so they can fix them. There is also no loss for us if we tell them, but some say we should use it for our benefit first, then we tell the casino. But the casino must know if we have abused it for our benefit so they can sanction us. Hopefully, the casino can reward us for our report in notifying the casino about the leak that is in the casino

[tusandii]

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Even if you do abuse of the terms and conditions that will be selediki by their side, including from VPN users, create multiple accounts or actions that are suspected that the casino will detect it, we will never win to any cheating moreover this action is very hated by them and need to know the casino is now stricter whatever they suspect will be followed up.

Sometimes with big wins and even normal play, the casino always checks back manually, we may have seen that case here, so it is clear why make cheating because in their system they will always be found out, whoever does that action then he has malicious intentions for his cheating.

Of course, any suspicious action must be investigated by the casino because it is very detrimental and whatever is done by gamblers will be easily detected by the casino team.
But for the use of VPN, actually not all casinos prohibit the use of VPN and there are some casinos that allow their customers to access with a VPN.
Casinos don't want to experience big losses from fraudulent wins made by gamblers, even some casinos don't immediately give winning money when a customer wins big and need to know that casinos are always ahead of gamblers so don't ever think can cheat freely.

[Shamm]

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Even if you do abuse of the terms and conditions that will be selediki by their side, including from VPN users, create multiple accounts or actions that are suspected that the casino will detect it, we will never win to any cheating moreover this action is very hated by them and need to know the casino is now stricter whatever they suspect will be followed up.

Sometimes with big wins and even normal play, the casino always checks back manually, we may have seen that case here, so it is clear why make cheating because in their system they will always be found out, whoever does that action then he has malicious intentions for his cheating.

Of course, any suspicious action must be investigated by the casino because it is very detrimental and whatever is done by gamblers will be easily detected by the casino team.
But for the use of VPN, actually not all casinos prohibit the use of VPN and there are some casinos that allow their customers to access with a VPN.
Casinos don't want to experience big losses from fraudulent wins made by gamblers, even some casinos don't immediately give winning money when a customer wins big and need to know that casinos are always ahead of gamblers so don't ever think can cheat freely.

Yes casino must be wise because once they are  not totally force Thier security to a strict then many gamblers can cheat and many gamblers can dis obey their rule and regulations so they are preparing to a strict management especially those casino who has the license to operate they will be more strict and once a gambler's account have suspicious then they will take an action immediately and hold the withdrawal.

[uneng]

One thing you must not forget to also consider is that, most things are easier said than done, most people in a bid to look or appear honest, most especially on a public forum as this will sure say that they will not cheat if they have the opportunity, but wait until the opportunity truly appear before them, then alone are we going to know who actually is honest and who is not..

Few days ago, while I've converted some bitcoins earned from my signature campaign to fiat through a crypto exchange and requested withdrawal to my bank account, i had the opportunity of cheating the exchange because they sent the money twice, money equivalent to $100 was sent twice to my bank account, just then, several thought began running in my head, i thought of keeping the money, and even when i decided i will return it, i waited for the exchange to contact me first, but they didn't, after the third day, i got myself up and contacted the exchange and told them the money i requested to withdraw 3 days ago was sent twice to my bank account, after they verified it was true, they provided an account and asked me send the other half to it, i did and after they verified receipt of the fund, the customer care i was in contact with told me that the entire management of the exchange is saying a big thank you to me, i was really happy and proud for doing what is right.

I tell you sincerely, Many will fall at the fore front of such temptation.

You did the right thing, congratulations. Days ago I also faced a similar situation. A product I had imported in the beginning of 2023 was misplaced in the middle of the way, and nobody could provide accurate informations on what had happened to the package, so I asked the company to reimburse my money. With some delay they did it and the story seemed to be ended. However, the package suddenly arrived in my address few days ago, against all my expectations, because I wasn't even thinking about it anymore.

So the first thing which came to my mind was the fact the company which made the sale was in disadvantage. I could simply ignore it and get the package for free and consider myself a lucky person to have access to such "benefit". I wouldn't have any negative consequences for me, anyway, from a legal perspective. However, I contacted the company and told them what happened. They asked me to repay the product and I did.

The best thing you can do is to be fine with your own conscience. Cheating doesn't bear good fruits, including in gambling.

[Jody.Drummer]

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Let alone cheating, using a strategy I still don't believe especially in slot games that I hear a lot from other people about them applying strategies so they can win the game.
For bugs, I have never found any bugs from a game, maybe other people have experienced it, but for myself never. You're right that if we report it when we find something like that, it's a good thing, and good things bring good things. Maybe when we report a problem, they will reward us for our report, it could be possible.  

People who claim to have a strategy to win the game intend to sell the strategy to others because they can't use it anymore. Arguing that they have already earned a lot is nonsense because if they can get a lot, why would they sell it to people?

I haven't found any bugs in the game either, but it would be better if we find them, we can report them to the casino so they can fix them. There is also no loss for us if we tell them, but some say we should use it for our benefit first, then we tell the casino. But the casino must know if we have abused it for our benefit so they can sanction us. Hopefully, the casino can reward us for our report in notifying the casino about the leak that is in the casino

Whether they can't use it anymore or not I don't really want to think too much but in this case saying that selling a strategy by giving others the belief that it will bring success is a ridiculous mistake.
Nowadays, even though it is quite rare, there are still people who do that when it might also be a coincidence for him.

Speaking of Bugs I didn't really expect anything like this actually because in this case my original intention was just gambling comfortably not looking for a bug so whether there is or not and finding a bug or not I don't really feel a problem with it but if you find a bug of course it must be reported so that it doesn't harm.

[letteredhub]

I know most people here won't accept this, but the facts is there are many here that would deny the fact that they won't take such opportunity if ever it comes, I'm not disputing that there are no generous people but let's be honest a good number of people would seize such opportunity to recover their loss if given a chance to because no one is happy to lose money, also why don't people quit after going through numerous losses to casinos or online sports betting if not for the fact that they're trying to recover their loss.the series of losses would even make one cheat without giving it a second thought.
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Even if you do not talk about honesty, then I think most people here are adequate and would not cheat - simply because it is fraught with consequences and risks such as litigation or prison. The average person has a lot of opportunities to steal and commit petty crimes in everyday life, but I see that the majority behave adequately - and it seems to me not just because they are super honest, but because this is rational behavior.

It's hard to be certain about such matter for humans are unpredictable. Some people you feel are honest and look sincere are so maybe because they haven't had an opportunity to cheat particularly if such is a life changing amount of money. Nobody should claim to be honest not until they're tempted with the situation there and then their actions would prove if they're truly honest or not. Honesty is not spoken it is in deeds.

[maydna]

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Whether they can't use it anymore or not I don't really want to think too much but in this case saying that selling a strategy by giving others the belief that it will bring success is a ridiculous mistake.
Nowadays, even though it is quite rare, there are still people who do that when it might also be a coincidence for him.

Speaking of Bugs I didn't really expect anything like this actually because in this case my original intention was just gambling comfortably not looking for a bug so whether there is or not and finding a bug or not I don't really feel a problem with it but if you find a bug of course it must be reported so that it doesn't harm.

Yes, that is a ridiculous mistake made by people who believe the strategy can still be used properly. But if they really want to try it, they can just buy it and use it right away, but they better modify it first so it runs for them. Other people's strategies won't work, and they may have to change them according to their preferred setting.

I've never focused on finding bugs in every casino because I know that would take much longer, and that's not what I aim for. Perhaps if our goal is to find the bugs, we should look for casinos hiring people who can find bugs in their casinos, and then the casinos will reward those who find them.

[Kelvinid]

Trying to cheat a casino cam only be fine when you don't have much money in your account and don't have the plan to stay for a very long time in the casino because it is certain that the person will be ban or account locked as quick as possible. Many of these casinos are always strict and ready to penalize us when we do something contrary to there terms and conditions especially when the person a has some money in there account. It will be unwise for us to try and cheat a casino when we know that the casino can in any ways freeze our account for breaking there team's and conditions.

Cheating on anything can never be fine.  It is a matter of morality.  Just put yourself in other shoes.  Are you happy being cheated?  Obviously, you will not and probably will take your revenge on the person who cheated on you.  In gambling history, cheating is one of the major reasons for bloodbaths among gamblers. 

No matter how long our intention to stay and play in a casino, it is always a good thing to exit with a clean account than an exit due to being banned because of cheating.

Cheating may happen to someone who is desperate enough to win. But for us who have just wanted to play fair, this certainly won't appear on our minds. And besides, cheating won't stay long and succeed always as they sooner they'll get caught. I don't think it was compensable enough to ruin our reputation just for a few bucks. As long as the site doesn't cheat us, I don't think we need to do that as well because, in the end, cheaters never win. In fact, many sites found cheating and stopped, which eventually happen to us as well -and get banned.

[piebeyb]

It's hard to be certain about such matter for humans are unpredictable. Some people you feel are honest and look sincere are so maybe because they haven't had an opportunity to cheat particularly if such is a life changing amount of money. Nobody should claim to be honest not until they're tempted with the situation there and then their actions would prove if they're truly honest or not. Honesty is not spoken it is in deeds.

Usually the crime does not have evil intentions from the start even if there is a big opportunity, I think even people who look sincere will still take advantage of it let alone get big money I'm sure people will be tempted and won't waste the opportunity and end up cheating too, you are right in saying that we can't predict anyone who is truly sincere and does well.

Even though not many people do that, if there is an opportunity, the average person will be tempted to cheat in order to get big money, so don't easily trust anyone, because humans are always greedy and will always be tempted by a golden opportunity that might change their life by taking that opportunity, even if it's in a fraudulent and bad way.

[Huppercase]

Even if you do not talk about honesty, then I think most people here are adequate and would not cheat - simply because it is fraught with consequences and risks such as litigation or prison. The average person has a lot of opportunities to steal and commit petty crimes in everyday life, but I see that the majority behave adequately - and it seems to me not just because they are super honest, but because this is rational behavior.

It's hard to be certain about such matter for humans are unpredictable. Some people you feel are honest and look sincere are so maybe because they haven't had an opportunity to cheat particularly if such is a life changing amount of money. Nobody should claim to be honest not until they're tempted with the situation there and then their actions would prove if they're truly honest or not. Honesty is not spoken it is in deeds.

I don't speak for all but as you said, I agree with you because people will say a thing and do differently and when money is involve with them, they change in a die minute because it involves money. Gambling is something that has to do with winning or losing, and I belive some players would be in that platform with more losses than what they have deposited in that casino, it will be foolish to think they will be honest once they found a hole in the casino that will make them win, they will quietly enjoy and drain it while it last until maybe a God fearing person report it to the casino and they found out quickly, the users will be suspended till further notice and if their balance is untouched, it will deducted from there.

[Solosanz]

It's hard to be certain about such matter for humans are unpredictable. Some people you feel are honest and look sincere are so maybe because they haven't had an opportunity to cheat particularly if such is a life changing amount of money. Nobody should claim to be honest not until they're tempted with the situation there and then their actions would prove if they're truly honest or not. Honesty is not spoken it is in deeds.

Human are predictable, they're honest and look sincere because they don't have high power, a lot money and husband or wife. But when they already have all of them, that's the real of human's behavior including yourself. Maybe you're always act honest and sincere all the time, you might be shocked your behavior changed after you get all those thing. But the truth is your behavior isn't changed anything since you born until then.

[Jody.Drummer]

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I've never focused on finding bugs in every casino because I know that would take much longer, and that's not what I aim for. Perhaps if our goal is to find the bugs, we should look for casinos hiring people who can find bugs in their casinos, and then the casinos will reward those who find them.

Yeah that's usually the case, I'm not pinning it on any particular casino, but usually when a site realizes there's a problem that they might not have noticed and could have found by accident, they'll create some sort of contest where if a user finds a bug on their site, that user can report it and usually will be awarded a prize or something for finding it.
Usually bugs can be found accidentally, but they can only be found by people who are very knowledgeable about these things.
Certainly certain sites will give something for their discovery. So far what I have seen from several bug cases that have occurred.

[bittraffic]

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I've never focused on finding bugs in every casino because I know that would take much longer, and that's not what I aim for. Perhaps if our goal is to find the bugs, we should look for casinos hiring people who can find bugs in their casinos, and then the casinos will reward those who find them.

Yeah that's usually the case, I'm not pinning it on any particular casino, but usually when a site realizes there's a problem that they might not have noticed and could have found by accident, they'll create some sort of contest where if a user finds a bug on their site, that user can report it and usually will be awarded a prize or something for finding it.
Usually bugs can be found accidentally, but they can only be found by people who are very knowledgeable about these things.
Certainly certain sites will give something for their discovery. So far what I have seen from several bug cases that have occurred.

The longer you play in a particular casino the more you can easily notice some bugs  or glitch to exploit. Its the same when you play some strategy games today which the longer you learn about the game, you know it very well like its the back of your hand and there could be one incident that you would take advantage to win. Not necessarily a cheat but one example of this is the giveaway where some users are exploiting it.

There is a casino that I never really get to leave and I go there from time to time to check, they don't do give away anymore because its been exploited by users lol Been waiting and seem like they've stopped.

[rahmad2nd]

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I know most people here won't accept this, but the facts is there are many here that would deny the fact that they won't take such opportunity if ever it comes, I'm not disputing that there are no generous people but let's be honest a good number of people would seize such opportunity to recover their loss if given a chance to because no one is happy to lose money, also why don't people quit after going through numerous losses to casinos or online sports betting if not for the fact that they're trying to recover their loss.the series of losses would even make one cheat without giving it a second thought.
 However it's very difficult to cheat in an online sports betting because I've not heard of any, it's either you come up with different strategies or look for possible ways to clear a bonus also the outcomes from most games claimed to be fixed are sometimes negative even when you pay to get those type of games it  still not 100% guaranteed most times, anyways the truth of the matter is that there are no 100% guaranteed tricks for winning in casino games and even if there's a good number of people here would take chances to win even if it's once.

As I said in the previous post. psychologically, a strong urge will lead us to choose things that are easier and more practical. say, if I have a way to win gambling by cheating. I can't be sure, that I won't do it. because, when something involves money. Humans tend to be tempted to take shortcuts even if it is something that is prohibited. Luckily, I'm not in that position. so, I can't say that I won't commit fraud or even that I could be led to do something I shouldn't have done. the point is when the opportunity exists, that's where our morals will be tested. and anyone who can pass the test, you can be sure that he has a good honest attitude and can be trusted.

Related to the problem of cheating the casino, or even committing fraud. usually, modes like this will be very easy to find out, especially by the casino itself. So, it will be very difficult to commit fraud at the casino. In fact, it's not uncommon for us to see/hear that there are threads trying to scam one of the casinos we have in the community. when it comes to cheating in this type of gambling game, I'm not too sure there are many people who can do it. but again, usually these things will be easily detected by the casino. and luckily i am just an ordinary gambler who plays just for fun.