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August 16, 2023, 11:14:45 AM
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Of course not, even though I am in great need of money and way too desperate to win, I will never attempt to do that. Thus, nowadays gambling systems are more strict so you are just putting yourself into risk because your account may be banned or restricted and you don't want that to happen right? Just play fair and have fun, because that's what it should be about. But really, is cheating in gambling possible? I only knew about systems having problems and malfunctions but haven't heard of cheating in gambling.




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August 16, 2023, 11:40:59 AM
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Of course not, even though I am in great need of money and way too desperate to win, I will never attempt to do that. Thus, nowadays gambling systems are more strict so you are just putting yourself into risk because your account may be banned or restricted and you don't want that to happen right? Just play fair and have fun, because that's what it should be about. But really, is cheating in gambling possible? I only knew about systems having problems and malfunctions but haven't heard of cheating in gambling.
Everyone has there ways of doing things, nowadays the rate of people who can cheat in gambling centers are increasing, these happens in a gambling shops mostly, if the gambler doesn't cheat the cashier, the agent can cheat the gambler, before an agent from a gambling company will open a gambling shop he's not going there to joke with customer's because in gambling shops there are different sets of people, some Gamblers that doesn't bet for fun might end up losing there money over there and any gambler who doesn't have discipline can end up harassing him selfs, those sets of persons can cheat in gambling shops, if any gambler cheats the bet agent and the bet agent doesn't know the agent might still look for those who came to bet for fun and cheat them too...

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August 16, 2023, 11:43:54 AM
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Cheating is a crime and that's it.  If we wanted to have no problem with our account, we must play honestly and avoid exploiting glitches and bugs that also includes cheating using third party application that can modify the result of our bets.  I also agree that cheating will only harm ourselves, it lessen our credibility and when got caught, it can be a reason to ban our accounts and all our effort in getting VIP ranking will all go to waste and at the same time, any amount on our account will be confiscated.  So I would avoid cheating even if the situation present itself.   It is better to have a clear conscience  than having money that is accumulated in the wrong way.

Many gamblers don't read the terms and conditions of the casino that they're using to gamble on and casino are always wise to include in their terms and conditions that if they catch you doing some illegal things that they can close your account with immediate effects but we don't know.

Cheating on a casino can be classified as an illegal act and when you get caught, your account can be terminated and the casino will be in their rights for doing so which make you lose all the funds you have on the casino platforms, they can take it a set further to report you.

Cheating isn't a good thing to do and there are many negative after effects that comes from cheating therefore it's not worth it. You can lose you accounts, get banned from the casino and also lose your reputation if they  decide to further the matter to the authorities.

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August 16, 2023, 01:20:24 PM
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Actually you are absolutely right because there is no dearth of cheaters but these cheaters can never be called ideal gamblers. An ideal gambler would never participate in cheating even if given the opportunity. Gambling is an ancient form of entertainment although earlier people naturally participated in gambling but did not participate in any fraudulent activities.

Yes. According to stats around 1.6 billion people worldwide gamble, and 4.2 billion gambling at least once a year. Imaging all of them were cheaters: the world would come to an end fast.

But nowadays many gamblers participate in fraudulent activities in the online system. Especially when the low quality minded gambler gets a special bug opportunity and participates in cheating.

As I said earlier, today it's hard to find a bug that could be exploited in order to steal money from a gambling site. Those who can find such a bug are not gamblers, they are dishonest hackers who don't share this information with regular gamblers.  If you  know such cases, share them.

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August 16, 2023, 05:38:21 PM
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I never thought so, because it seems like it would be very difficult to cheat on a gambling platform. Ok well, maybe let's say you managed to cheat but I'm sure, it would be bad for your account too, right. Either that, for example, such as your account being frozen and or banned so that you cannot make withdrawals and so on. So yes, I personally never think about cheating because of course, there will be impacts that we will regret later. So yes, of course it would be better to play naturally, and not to cheat if it still involves with personal money.
It is seems easy to cheat in a relationship than to the gambling platforms Cheesy but I am only kidding. Of course, this is hard as well, at least on my case. Gambling is a business so they must ensure that there are less to no loopholes that can sap their resources because it's going to affect them badly.

Cheaters don't care about their accounts because they can easily create one again or they will now jump on the other casinos. It's only sad that there are still a few cheaters out there who are successful with their attempts. I think this is because the casino's security is not good enough. For us who still have a soul, we never think of it even if we only have less money on hand.

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August 16, 2023, 06:13:43 PM
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It is seems easy to cheat in a relationship than to the gambling platforms Cheesy but I am only kidding. Of course, this is hard as well, at least on my case. Gambling is a business so they must ensure that there are less to no loopholes that can sap their resources because it's going to affect them badly.

Cheaters don't care about their accounts because they can easily create one again or they will now jump on the other casinos. It's only sad that there are still a few cheaters out there who are successful with their attempts. I think this is because the casino's security is not good enough. For us who still have a soul, we never think of it even if we only have less money on hand.
Gambling involves cheating, and not everyone is aware of or understands what it encompasses. We have genuine gamblers who are always on the cutting edge of or looking for methods to take advantage, and if they find one, they are going to employ it. Of course, they will do it without hesitation. Gambling has never been something I've appreciated, so I'm guessing it's not something I'll do in my spare time. Cheating in gambling, a large proportion of gamblers would do all within their power to ensure they gain a significant amount of money through gambling

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August 16, 2023, 07:42:42 PM
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Of course not, even though I am in great need of money and way too desperate to win, I will never attempt to do that. Thus, nowadays gambling systems are more strict so you are just putting yourself into risk because your account may be banned or restricted and you don't want that to happen right? Just play fair and have fun, because that's what it should be about. But really, is cheating in gambling possible? I only knew about systems having problems and malfunctions but haven't heard of cheating in gambling.


I think everyone wants to play honestly when gambling. However, if you often lose, sometimes playing unfairly always comes to mind and this is also what makes some people collapse in their determination to play honestly.
Apart from being caused by defeat which results in someone committing fraud in playing gambling. This can also occur in the background when someone has shifted their view from fun to profit which causes them to continue to focus on pursuing profits in gambling in all ways, including cheating.

Those who commit fraud in gambling do not mean they are not aware of the consequences of the fraud they are committing. But they are so focused on profit that they ignore the consequences of doing so.

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Closest I would come to cheating is maybe along the lines of card counting but to me that isnt cheating its just using your brains.  I dont count that any different to calculating your odds in your head for a poker hand vs your opponents, it has to be legitimate if people can do it naturally almost subconsciously and be aware when is the best time to bet bigger etc.    Obviously Im not that clever to do it without alot of effort but I dont consider it cheating if some can.

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August 16, 2023, 10:04:23 PM
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Of course not, even though I am in great need of money and way too desperate to win, I will never attempt to do that. Thus, nowadays gambling systems are more strict so you are just putting yourself into risk because your account may be banned or restricted and you don't want that to happen right? Just play fair and have fun, because that's what it should be about. But really, is cheating in gambling possible? I only knew about systems having problems and malfunctions but haven't heard of cheating in gambling.

I have never seen or heard about it before, and I don’t think that there is any way someone can cheat in gambling. Why? Because once you have staked your game, there is nothing you can do again but wait and see what the outcome of your game will look like,  so where can someone think of or see a way to cheat? I believe it will not happen, but for those who use their phones to play bets, there is no way to Manipulate because you must follow what the app or rule guiding the casino company you are using tells you; if not, there is no way to place that bet, and that is what makes me believe that there is no way to cheat in gambling. The only thing that happens after you have placed your bet is that maybe you don’t have control over your emotions, then you will cash out the money or cancel the ticket since you you aren’t okay, however, must only cash out before the end of the game even if the money  will not be what they want, but because of emotions they withdraw before the game ends.

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August 17, 2023, 05:15:07 AM
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They will but that doesn't usually happen in reality as often times, most gamblers would say that why would they help the casino find it when they have their own stuffs to do it and apart from that, they will not because the prize will not be as big if they will take advantage of the bug themselves. You know, those kind of mindset that do it now without trying to look for the consequences down the road because the important thing is to make money.
Well, surely there will be people who try to take advantage of these bugs for their own benefit. But at least if they find a bug, they can report it to the casino so the casino can fix it. The casinos may reward them for what they find but it depends on the casino. And if the casino runs a bug-finding contest, it can be a great place to practice its bug-finding skills. And there's a prize for those who can find the bug. And who knows, the casino is interested in hiring him as part of the casino team.

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August 17, 2023, 03:01:09 PM
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Of course not, even though I am in great need of money and way too desperate to win, I will never attempt to do that. Thus, nowadays gambling systems are more strict so you are just putting yourself into risk because your account may be banned or restricted and you don't want that to happen right? Just play fair and have fun, because that's what it should be about. But really, is cheating in gambling possible? I only knew about systems having problems and malfunctions but haven't heard of cheating in gambling.

I have never seen or heard about it before, and I don’t think that there is any way someone can cheat in gambling. Why? Because once you have staked your game, there is nothing you can do again but wait and see what the outcome of your game will look like,  so where can someone think of or see a way to cheat? I believe it will not happen, but for those who use their phones to play bets, there is no way to Manipulate because you must follow what the app or rule guiding the casino company you are using tells you; if not, there is no way to place that bet, and that is what makes me believe that there is no way to cheat in gambling. The only thing that happens after you have placed your bet is that maybe you don’t have control over your emotions, then you will cash out the money or cancel the ticket since you you aren’t okay, however, must only cash out before the end of the game even if the money  will not be what they want, but because of emotions they withdraw before the game ends.
your naive trust in gambling's integrity is quite charming, but it's painfully misguided. Since the beginning of time, people have attempted to rig games. You believe that just because technology has advanced, the human propensity to deceive has vanished? Rethink that! Online platforms do have rules and restrictions, but it would be absurdly naive to suppose that no one could influence them
Don't even bring up the emotional component. The fact that some players have the abilities, expertise, and even insider information to gain an advantage is a different issue from the fact that many players lack discipline and cash out too early. Therefore, don't be too ready to dismiss the notion of gaming fraud. There is a larger world than you appear to realise

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August 17, 2023, 03:13:00 PM
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They will but that doesn't usually happen in reality as often times, most gamblers would say that why would they help the casino find it when they have their own stuffs to do it and apart from that, they will not because the prize will not be as big if they will take advantage of the bug themselves. You know, those kind of mindset that do it now without trying to look for the consequences down the road because the important thing is to make money.
Well, surely there will be people who try to take advantage of these bugs for their own benefit. But at least if they find a bug, they can report it to the casino so the casino can fix it. The casinos may reward them for what they find but it depends on the casino. And if the casino runs a bug-finding contest, it can be a great place to practice its bug-finding skills. And there's a prize for those who can find the bug. And who knows, the casino is interested in hiring him as part of the casino team.

That's a better thought, than finding a bug and abusing it would be a crime and would harm other people. Better to report it straight away and maybe get a bounty commensurate with the bugs found.
But if there are no prizes, then a casino like that should be taught a lesson. At least if the bug is critical and could jeopardize the user's funds, the payoff might be thousands of dollars,

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August 18, 2023, 10:23:44 AM
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That's a better thought, than finding a bug and abusing it would be a crime and would harm other people. Better to report it straight away and maybe get a bounty commensurate with the bugs found.
But if there are no prizes, then a casino like that should be taught a lesson. At least if the bug is critical and could jeopardize the user's funds, the payoff might be thousands of dollars,
And if there is no bounty, it will be up to each user who finds the bug. But they must be aware that what they do with the bug will impact their gambling account. Someone may try to use the bug first and withdraw the money if he can. But it's also possible for someone to directly report a bug to the casino so that the casino can fix it right away. And it is up to the casino what it will give to the person who found the bug but at least, the casino can give a thank you gift for helping to find the bug.

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August 18, 2023, 12:02:24 PM
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Of course not, even though I am in great need of money and way too desperate to win, I will never attempt to do that. Thus, nowadays gambling systems are more strict so you are just putting yourself into risk because your account may be banned or restricted and you don't want that to happen right? Just play fair and have fun, because that's what it should be about. But really, is cheating in gambling possible? I only knew about systems having problems and malfunctions but haven't heard of cheating in gambling.

It's not literally cheating but we cannot call it the opposite either because it's just taking advantage of the system while there is/are still some loopholes available. Now, we have a choice to take advantage of that or report it to the casino because if we do the latter, we will certainly be rewarded as we are helping them to fix their existing problems that they may or may not know without losing some of their money along the way but some of the gamblers are undeniably going to take advantage for that, while it's good for them because they can generate huge sums, that will not be long because sooner or later, casino will find that out because they always do.

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And if there is no bounty, it will be up to each user who finds the bug. But they must be aware that what they do with the bug will impact their gambling account. Someone may try to use the bug first and withdraw the money if he can. But it's also possible for someone to directly report a bug to the casino so that the casino can fix it right away. And it is up to the casino what it will give to the person who found the bug but at least, the casino can give a thank you gift for helping to find the bug.

And when a bug has been found but there is no follow-up from the casino then as a user I will leave early. The casino certainly has to be aware of the bugs that are found, if there is no follow-up to give thanks or just a sweet word without reward, then nothing can be defended from a casino like that. While most popular casinos will reward bug fixers a fair amount, the thousands of dollars a casino spends on something crucial doesn't cut its profits.

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And when a bug has been found but there is no follow-up from the casino then as a user I will leave early. The casino certainly has to be aware of the bugs that are found, if there is no follow-up to give thanks or just a sweet word without reward, then nothing can be defended from a casino like that. While most popular casinos will reward bug fixers a fair amount, the thousands of dollars a casino spends on something crucial doesn't cut its profits.
Yeah, I'm also going to get out of it meaning the casinos don't want to respect what we do. At least that has lightened the task of the casino security team because they can immediately fix the bug so that it doesn't cause harm to the casino, indeed, popular casinos will reward bug fixers because they care about security in their casino and with bug fixers, casinos can always increase their awareness of fraud or attacks that might come if the bug is not fixed immediately. And giving gifts or awards to bug fixers also won't make the casino lose because the casino really appreciates what the bug fixers do. After all, the casino knows that it is for the sake of its business to keep it running smoothly.

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Yeah, I'm also going to get out of it meaning the casinos don't want to respect what we do. At least that has lightened the task of the casino security team because they can immediately fix the bug so that it doesn't cause harm to the casino, indeed, popular casinos will reward bug fixers because they care about security in their casino and with bug fixers, casinos can always increase their awareness of fraud or attacks that might come if the bug is not fixed immediately. And giving gifts or awards to bug fixers also won't make the casino lose because the casino really appreciates what the bug fixers do. After all, the casino knows that it is for the sake of its business to keep it running smoothly.

Long-term effects will occur in casinos that ignore the Big fixer, of course it will be a serious problem. But those small casinos that can't afford bug fixers will do the underhanded job of closing the bug without giving anything in return or just a thank you. That would backfire dangerously for the continuation of the casino.
But casinos like Duelbit, roobet, rollbit, etc., I think, will provide commensurate rewards, because they have been trusted and have been pretty good casinos so far. In fact, I often get bonuses from duelbits from some of the games I play.

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Cheating would come under private contract law I think rather then immediately be applicable under theft or normal removal of produce without paying like from a retail store for example.   So its arguable possibly in a court of law which is what I've seen done previously, however the most immediate repercussion is the loss or impairment of the account.   Its obviously most commonly done with exploits, hardly appears to be a noble endeavor compared to those that just play the game under rules stated.
  The main fallacy with aiming to cheat in a game is that it obviously underlines the fact you only have an interest in money and nothing else about the game, very likely you wont gain enough of advantage to really make a profit without being caught and I'd call it a total loss as you have no enjoyment at all from the game.  Your personal objective is only to get around any real state of the game or its gameplay; most of the time incredibly frustrating and empty in returns to your efforts.

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That's a better thought, than finding a bug and abusing it would be a crime and would harm other people. Better to report it straight away and maybe get a bounty commensurate with the bugs found.
But if there are no prizes, then a casino like that should be taught a lesson. At least if the bug is critical and could jeopardize the user's funds, the payoff might be thousands of dollars,
And if there is no bounty, it will be up to each user who finds the bug. But they must be aware that what they do with the bug will impact their gambling account. Someone may try to use the bug first and withdraw the money if he can. But it's also possible for someone to directly report a bug to the casino so that the casino can fix it right away. And it is up to the casino what it will give to the person who found the bug but at least, the casino can give a thank you gift for helping to find the bug.
There will probably abusers who will take advantage of that bug prior reporting it. Though it is risky because it might really affect your account. That's why it is really better to report it right away. For the reward of finding the bug, well, gamblers should not have expect, as we all know, if there's a bug casinos have a huge loss


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And when a bug has been found but there is no follow-up from the casino then as a user I will leave early. The casino certainly has to be aware of the bugs that are found, if there is no follow-up to give thanks or just a sweet word without reward, then nothing can be defended from a casino like that. While most popular casinos will reward bug fixers a fair amount, the thousands of dollars a casino spends on something crucial doesn't cut its profits.
Yeah, I'm also going to get out of it meaning the casinos don't want to respect what we do. At least that has lightened the task of the casino security team because they can immediately fix the bug so that it doesn't cause harm to the casino, indeed, popular casinos will reward bug fixers because they care about security in their casino and with bug fixers, casinos can always increase their awareness of fraud or attacks that might come if the bug is not fixed immediately. And giving gifts or awards to bug fixers also won't make the casino lose because the casino really appreciates what the bug fixers do. After all, the casino knows that it is for the sake of its business to keep it running smoothly.

I have always said one thing , in every casino there should always be a sign or a notice that says that any player who finds an error or vulnerability in the casino to notify him and that he will be given an excellent monetary bonus, but until now not I have seen it, they are things that seem incredible to me, but as a business of this style that is so huge , they should worry about the basics and it is preferable to pay a person enough than then to look for money because everything has been stolen, I think it will always be It is good to Reward those who report vulnerability and can support the casino , but the reward must be very good, high and convincing.

In every casino things are not done that way , then some complain because they make an Exploit and that is the wors t, because the casino will not remain vulnerable and basically the work that has been done, that has been Built , is very bad, because the casino reputation would be very bad.

A casino must always be one step ahead in everything, even in security and in everything, because you never know if a person has come across something that they have not been able to fix or the security agents see how they engineered it, because it is something that It is not in the things that should be Accepted , because a mistake in a casino means money, and not a little, but a lot. These types of things are the ones that should be avoided , encouraging those programmers or bug seekers to hack sites that may have a such a great gratification that it is better that and not that they steal everything from a casino, then things should be like this, now that things are at another level, with the AI and everything that has to do with the advances is a little more easy and in terms of security, things can be better Carried out , however , an AI will not replace any player that Play , that Generate money, those that take care of the Security of the System , all this, for now the Things are like this , it is expected that in a not so long period of time the AI will be more powerful and other security measures will be Mandatory there.

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