Will you cheat in gambling?

[Blitzboy]

It's hard to be certain about such matter for humans are unpredictable. Some people you feel are honest and look sincere are so maybe because they haven't had an opportunity to cheat particularly if such is a life changing amount of money. Nobody should claim to be honest not until they're tempted with the situation there and then their actions would prove if they're truly honest or not. Honesty is not spoken it is in deeds.

Usually the crime does not have evil intentions from the start even if there is a big opportunity, I think even people who look sincere will still take advantage of it let alone get big money I'm sure people will be tempted and won't waste the opportunity and end up cheating too, you are right in saying that we can't predict anyone who is truly sincere and does well.

Even though not many people do that, if there is an opportunity, the average person will be tempted to cheat in order to get big money, so don't easily trust anyone, because humans are always greedy and will always be tempted by a golden opportunity that might change their life by taking that opportunity, even if it's in a fraudulent and bad way.

Its a harsh viewpoint to assume that given an opportunity, an individual would be led astray by the allure of illicit gain. It's true that historical examples provide us with instances where trust was betrayed in pursuit of greed. However, it's a pessimistic view, painted with broad strokes. Let's remember that we exist in a society with rules and consequences. Not everyone will flout the law, even in the face of seemingly irresistible temptation. On a serious note, many individuals value their integrity more than any potential ill-gotten gains.

But hey, isnt it funny that we are discussing the nature of humans on a cryptocurrency forum? Who could have thought we'd end up here, right?

[seleme]

It happens very rare when someone can actually find and report a bug, and I think the rewards for that should be big. In my opinion, it should be like an additional game on the platform: finding and reporting a bug. But again, I think it would be less often than once in a year, if ever, when a bug worth reporting is found.

Front end or UI bugs maybe isn't get a big rewards, if we wants to found a critical bugs we need to be a programmers or like a white hacker. Since our money under casino provider accounts, they are easy to freeze our money if we are take advantages with that bug. Because take edvantage of it was like a cheating activity, I believe we will hard to withdraw our money after it happens..

It is better to join bug bounties rather than using these bugs for our advantage, especially used cheats by many players can be easily detectable by system admins and they will surely find out what causes this. I mostly prefer to report such bugs or critical errors to the support team and they sometimes send small rewards depending on the level.

[Silberman]

The longer you play in a particular casino the more you can easily notice some bugs  or glitch to exploit. Its the same when you play some strategy games today which the longer you learn about the game, you know it very well like its the back of your hand and there could be one incident that you would take advantage to win. Not necessarily a cheat but one example of this is the giveaway where some users are exploiting it.

There is a casino that I never really get to leave and I go there from time to time to check, they don't do give away anymore because its been exploited by users lol Been waiting and seem like they've stopped.

Correct, it may seem impossible not only to find those bugs but to the bugs themselves to exist at all, but as you mention the more familiar a person is with a particular platform the easier it will be for them to notice a glitch they may be able to use for their own benefit.

And a great example of this are video games, in which fans of a particular game are able to break it completely just days after it has been released, as they are experts on finding bugs they can use in order to end the video game the fastest or get the highest score.

[maydna]

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Yeah that's usually the case, I'm not pinning it on any particular casino, but usually when a site realizes there's a problem that they might not have noticed and could have found by accident, they'll create some sort of contest where if a user finds a bug on their site, that user can report it and usually will be awarded a prize or something for finding it.
Usually bugs can be found accidentally, but they can only be found by people who are very knowledgeable about these things.
Certainly certain sites will give something for their discovery. So far what I have seen from several bug cases that have occurred.

And the sure thing is that we don't need to use those bugs to our advantage because the casinos can find them easily. Perhaps, if the casino runs a contest to find the bug, we can report it immediately and wait for the results. Who knows, we can get the prize.

But, indeed, those bugs are usually discovered accidentally by users who just want to play. They usually report this to the support service for follow-up but unfortunately, the casino does not provide a reward for finding it. Perhaps, this should be a concern for the casino so that people who accidentally find this bug can be given prizes.

[Jody.Drummer]

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Yeah that's usually the case, I'm not pinning it on any particular casino, but usually when a site realizes there's a problem that they might not have noticed and could have found by accident, they'll create some sort of contest where if a user finds a bug on their site, that user can report it and usually will be awarded a prize or something for finding it.
Usually bugs can be found accidentally, but they can only be found by people who are very knowledgeable about these things.
Certainly certain sites will give something for their discovery. So far what I have seen from several bug cases that have occurred.

And the sure thing is that we don't need to use those bugs to our advantage because the casinos can find them easily. Perhaps, if the casino runs a contest to find the bug, we can report it immediately and wait for the results. Who knows, we can get the prize.

But, indeed, those bugs are usually discovered accidentally by users who just want to play. They usually report this to the support service for follow-up but unfortunately, the casino does not provide a reward for finding it. Perhaps, this should be a concern for the casino so that people who accidentally find this bug can be given prizes.

I don't even think about taking advantage of the bugs in a casino, because when that happens, they will also detect things that are not natural when we win a game for example. When that happens it will affect our account which may later be limited because it is detected and considered cheating. In fact, it is not cheating that we do, but rather take advantage of something that we can benefit from.
Yes you are right, they can announce such things, not for the purpose of contests or the like, but for their interests as well.

[maydna]

~snip~

I don't even think about taking advantage of the bugs in a casino, because when that happens, they will also detect things that are not natural when we win a game for example. When that happens it will affect our account which may later be limited because it is detected and considered cheating. In fact, it is not cheating that we do, but rather take advantage of something that we can benefit from.
Yes you are right, they can announce such things, not for the purpose of contests or the like, but for their interests as well.

Yes, for those of us who only play gambling and don't use gambling as a place to make money, we won't use that bug because it could put our gambling account at risk. If a casino runs a contest to find bugs in the casino, it will attract many people trying to find them, especially if the prizes are huge.

But for some reason, some people still try to find bugs in many casinos to win at gambling. They don't think that their accounts are caught cheating by the casino because they only think of using the bugs to their advantage.

[AicecreaME]

I don't even think about taking advantage of the bugs in a casino, because when that happens, they will also detect things that are not natural when we win a game for example. When that happens it will affect our account which may later be limited because it is detected and considered cheating. In fact, it is not cheating that we do, but rather take advantage of something that we can benefit from.
Yes you are right, they can announce such things, not for the purpose of contests or the like, but for their interests as well.

Taking advantage of the bugs can pose a harm to your account especially if you are using your main account that is verified and has funds in it. Your account can be flagged for doing unusual activities that violate their TOS and thus, could be given a punishment such as account restriction, suspension, and even being permanently banned. If you want to take advantage of the glitches, make sure you are ready for the consequences because there's no such thing as unnoticed in casino monitoring.

[LUCKMCFLY]

That is why some sites offer rewards to those who can find bugs in the system. Though it was their part to investigate and look for some irregularities inside but as responsible gamblers, we also have to report even though we never get money because there is trust which is most important. As long as the site has not cheated anyone, they should also get respect and no reason to cheat. Cheaters could be found too easily, so we never have to try it because in the end, we are the only ones that suffer the most.

Besides that, there's no point in cheating the casino. After all, the casino will know if we are cheating on the casino because the casino can easily check all of its user accounts. And after being caught, the casino can punish us according to the rules that apply at the casino. If the casino wants, our account, including all our balances, can be blocked easily to make us regret what we have done. It's better to report to the casino if we find a bug so that the casino can immediately check and fix it. After all, the casino could have rewarded us for helping the securities team find the bug.

Trying to cheat a casino cam only be fine when you don't have much money in your account and don't have the plan to stay for a very long time in the casino because it is certain that the person will be ban or account locked as quick as possible. Many of these casinos are always strict and ready to penalize us when we do something contrary to there terms and conditions especially when the person a has some money in there account. It will be unwise for us to try and cheat a casino when we know that the casino can in any ways freeze our account for breaking there team's and conditions.

looking at the current scenario where all casinos or most casinos have placed high requirements for sign-up bonuses, I doubt very much that there are still many cheaters, most people have been playing fair without cheating, I say this because in sports betting there is no how can someone cheat and many casino games also have no way for people to cheat, and the arguments that some casinos have used to confiscate the customers' money that is in the casino account are meaningless arguments and why most of the time the very casino that is accusing the customer of cheating cannot show evidence that the customer cheated

I have seen many cases where the casino accuses the customer of having too many accounts, but when asked: how many accounts that person has, how much money each account has abused, the casino is unable to say and show evidence, and when you go to the casino if you see that to have a bonus there is 30x of the bonus amount and it must be played using deposited money, and when you see the withdrawal requirement, there is a high withdrawal amount and sometimes 3x of the deposited amount, so who the hell would want it having many accounts at a casino with those requirements, nobody. It's hard for people to cheat, and it's a fact that many people have been playing by the rules and some casinos keep inventing things to avoid paying, especially new casinos on the market.

Well, I can't help that everything you say is true, a casino can always invent excuses for not paying, for them, the cases in which they say they cheated or that they began to see suspicious activities, they blocked the account and left it like that, and that is an act that should not be worthy of a casino, if the casino blocks an account, they must demonstrate the reasons why they blocked it and gave it that treatment, when any player knows that they have won and can withdraw their money, they should not say no, they cannot be denied the right to do so , yes I agree with what you say, and it happens mostly in casinos that are relatively new, because an old casino is not going to get into huge trouble.

Of course, I am not saying that new casinos get into this type of problem, but rather that most problems tend to do so, so to be clear, most of the problems can come from new casinos, of course now there are many more things that can happen in casinos that are old, personally I think that as players we should not trust anything, because at any time an error in the gaming system or something must be reported and if that error occurs our money is affected, because even more so, casinos must always demonstrate any type of play, for this they do blockchain audits, I don't know that so many casinos have the option for players to review the play, but every casino is and should have that option, so that in case of any problem they can show the respective evidence, whether due to lack of player or lack of casino.

[Eureka_07]

<snip>

It depends on the bug. If you are not aware of it, it should be forgiven. But if it was a proven exploitation, then your account would be justified in being punished. Generally, if you know of some crucial bug, do not try to make use of it; eventually, you'll be punished for taking advantage of it. Be fair.

[Jody.Drummer]

I don't even think about taking advantage of the bugs in a casino, because when that happens, they will also detect things that are not natural when we win a game for example. When that happens it will affect our account which may later be limited because it is detected and considered cheating. In fact, it is not cheating that we do, but rather take advantage of something that we can benefit from.
Yes you are right, they can announce such things, not for the purpose of contests or the like, but for their interests as well.

Taking advantage of the bugs can pose a harm to your account especially if you are using your main account that is verified and has funds in it. Your account can be flagged for doing unusual activities that violate their TOS and thus, could be given a punishment such as account restriction, suspension, and even being permanently banned. If you want to take advantage of the glitches, make sure you are ready for the consequences because there's no such thing as unnoticed in casino monitoring.

Exactly like what I said before, of course they also have a system that can detect unusual activity and it will have an impact on our own account, and the worst thing is that our account may be permanently frozen, as you said.
For me, getting a profit that may not be large is not worth what we will feel with account banning or something like that. Usually if we are already flagged, then the slightest suspicious activity will make a casino act more than usual.
It's our choice whether to report it or use it, but I'm sure most people would think the same as I do. So choose wisely.

[CarnagexD]

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It depends on the bug. If you are not aware of it, it should be forgiven. But if it was a proven exploitation, then your account would be justified in being punished. Generally, if you know of some crucial bug, do not try to make use of it; eventually, you'll be punished for taking advantage of it. Be fair.

Haha as simple as it is. There's a quote that goes "You never break the rules, you only break yourself to abide the rules." So when you do things that you know is wrong, you're breaking your own self and virtue. Not only that you will pay legally for the damage and cheating that you cause, you're doing the wrong thing.

Also when you are caught, regardless if you're aware of it or not you will still pay for it. So be a wise gambler.

[rahmad2nd]

I don't even think about taking advantage of the bugs in a casino, because when that happens, they will also detect things that are not natural when we win a game for example. When that happens it will affect our account which may later be limited because it is detected and considered cheating. In fact, it is not cheating that we do, but rather take advantage of something that we can benefit from.
Yes you are right, they can announce such things, not for the purpose of contests or the like, but for their interests as well.

I honestly wonder, is it easy to find bugs. I'm pretty sure that, it's not that easy. and even if someone finds a bug to cheat the casino, there is a risk that must be borne by the culprit. even then, if the bug works it can be used as a medium to cheat the casino.
Well, the problem is that every casino usually has security to prevent these things. moreover, for a reputable casino that has a lot of customers. in fact, every casino always carries out maintenance which is their routine.

Theoretically there is no single web or site related to the internet, which cannot be broken into. However, not just anyone can do it. even then, the perpetrators must know, that will not produce anything. because any fraud that is committed will definitely be detected and the casino will swiftly suspend accounts involved in fraud.
by the way, this is only based on my personal point of view. after all, what is the essence of cheating in gambling. for example playing slots, if you know you're going to win by cheating, it's no longer fun. except, someone who has bad intentions to get easy money from the casino.

[Hispo]

<snip>

It depends on the bug. If you are not aware of it, it should be forgiven. But if it was a proven exploitation, then your account would be justified in being punished. Generally, if you know of some crucial bug, do not try to make use of it; eventually, you'll be punished for taking advantage of it. Be fair.

Haha as simple as it is. There's a quote that goes "You never break the rules, you only break yourself to abide the rules." So when you do things that you know is wrong, you're breaking your own self and virtue. Not only that you will pay legally for the damage and cheating that you cause, you're doing the wrong thing.

Also when you are caught, regardless if you're aware of it or not you will still pay for it. So be a wise gambler.

It makes me wonder whether casinos usually have some bug or exploit bounty program, like the one we have here in the forum. I think it would be very productive for both the industry and the gamblers/white hat hackers who ended up finding a bug by chance or by studying the system of the casino.

In the end, disclosing a bug and getting awarded by it is better than becoming a criminal.

I have found some information on Stake back from 2018, which implies they offer tips to users who responsibly report exploits to them, very cool, imo.

[Peanutswar]

The longer you play in a particular casino the more you can easily notice some bugs  or glitch to exploit. Its the same when you play some strategy games today which the longer you learn about the game, you know it very well like its the back of your hand and there could be one incident that you would take advantage to win. Not necessarily a cheat but one example of this is the giveaway where some users are exploiting it.

There is a casino that I never really get to leave and I go there from time to time to check, they don't do give away anymore because its been exploited by users lol Been waiting and seem like they've stopped.

Correct, it may seem impossible not only to find those bugs but to the bugs themselves to exist at all, but as you mention the more familiar a person is with a particular platform the easier it will be for them to notice a glitch they may be able to use for their own benefit.

And a great example of this are video games, in which fans of a particular game are able to break it completely just days after it has been released, as they are experts on finding bugs they can use in order to end the video game the fastest or get the highest score.

Before the casino launches their project, they will release in a UAT or the user acceptance testing that will bring into their Quality Assurance team or the QA to test any bugs before launching to the production mode. During the live of course, we cannot deny that there's an instance that will show up with some bugs that didn't find in that time, in that case they will temporarily terminate the services of the game and fix those bugs to prevent getting abused by the players.

[Jody.Drummer]

I don't even think about taking advantage of the bugs in a casino, because when that happens, they will also detect things that are not natural when we win a game for example. When that happens it will affect our account which may later be limited because it is detected and considered cheating. In fact, it is not cheating that we do, but rather take advantage of something that we can benefit from.
Yes you are right, they can announce such things, not for the purpose of contests or the like, but for their interests as well.

I honestly wonder, is it easy to find bugs. I'm pretty sure that, it's not that easy. and even if someone finds a bug to cheat the casino, there is a risk that must be borne by the culprit. even then, if the bug works it can be used as a medium to cheat the casino.
Well, the problem is that every casino usually has security to prevent these things. moreover, for a reputable casino that has a lot of customers. in fact, every casino always carries out maintenance which is their routine.

Theoretically there is no single web or site related to the internet, which cannot be broken into. However, not just anyone can do it. even then, the perpetrators must know, that will not produce anything. because any fraud that is committed will definitely be detected and the casino will swiftly suspend accounts involved in fraud.
by the way, this is only based on my personal point of view. after all, what is the essence of cheating in gambling. for example playing slots, if you know you're going to win by cheating, it's no longer fun. except, someone who has bad intentions to get easy money from the casino.

Yes as I said before, that people who find bugs are either accidental and unintentional, or they are experts in finding bugs or something like that, or they break in on purpose.
Yes you are right, every site will do regular maintenances, so that it can prevent this kind of thing that can harm them.
Winning by cheating is not fun, but for some people whose goal is to make them profitable, they will do it, no matter what.
Since I only play to make me happy, I don't think about doing that, especially since I'm not an expert who must have more skills.

[LUCKMCFLY]

By losing a lot in gambling casino sites, a gambler would definitely do it. I will. Just to get back whatever the gambler lost.
This is actually why gambling sites are strengthening their security. Anti-spam to avoid flooding, anti-hack, and anti-cheat. Everything that has to do with stealing something from them.
If there's a hole that you could take advantage of, do so. Get back all the money they got from you and some profits so you can gamble again in the normal way where they will always win.
I just recently saw how cruel it could be for those who gamble a lot but have not withdrawn anything and not because the gambling site is not allowing them but because they want more. If they will be in that position where there's a chance to cheat then they will. It's not about "moral standards" anymore because their mind processing is hatred towards the gambling site where they lose a ton of money, they will do it without a tiny doubt.

Exploits are always the secret weapon of every player who wants to take advantage of the casino, I don't know, but to avoid it, what casinos do is increase their security, but as I have said on many occasions, it would be great. if the casino could offer great rewards, very juicy for those who discover vulnerabilities, and thus the casino avoids being hacked, but I have not seen casinos that reward or encourage this type of practice to be rewarded, on many occasions Casinos that have been hacked is because they do not offer this type of help or rewards.

So far I have seen many casinos that have invested a lot in their security , it's not bad , since everything related to AI is in fashion, I Imagine that they are introducing security of all kinds including this one, although it has not been Determined that an AI can break the Blockchain codes must be taken care of very much , I have seen that some casinos with great security there are Always Some holes that some Criminals see and take Advantage of.

Finding bugs and using exploits to your advantage is cheating and whenever a casino founds it surely you will not be able to withdraw a single penny. Once exploit on Rollbit cost lots of Litecoins to them but many users have shared the profit on chat then they had withdrawn big amounts till they get caught. That is how it has been done before, so make your decision correctly before deciding to repeat same actions

Yes, but the idea is that the casinos try to see these things to learn, and promote that when there are some vulnerabilities they Should be well paid , in the case of this Casino they were Lucky , But which one was not? And if they lose all that money , how do they do it or How would they do it ? Sometimes things can't become like that, obviously it's cheating , an exploit is that, but if we go to the real level, can some experts do it , spend the money for a lot of mixers, and how do they get caught ? So this kind of thing sometimes doesn't make sense , so it's easier to offer good rewards and encourage them to find bugs and be well rewarded.

The issue or the Simple case of rewards represents little and is worth so much that they Could be handled with logical thinking so that it can be determined that things can be done in the most correct way and that activate white hat hackers to Identify Vulnerabilities, also for doing good and being rewarded with good rewards could avoid Millions in losses, sites will Always be vulnerable, also a database can be vulnerable if seconds are neglected, this type of thing They are the ones that have to be seen , Otherwise I believe that there is no way for the bad or the bad people to triumph.

Of course , I know that this way of psnar is just my idea, it is not Something that a Casino is Going to do, maybe one or another can Take my idea , but the idea is not that Bad , that is why it is always good to give ideas Here to see if a casino is encouraged to take Our Ideas , as long as it is to Contribute , it is Better.

[Silberman]

Correct, it may seem impossible not only to find those bugs but to the bugs themselves to exist at all, but as you mention the more familiar a person is with a particular platform the easier it will be for them to notice a glitch they may be able to use for their own benefit.

And a great example of this are video games, in which fans of a particular game are able to break it completely just days after it has been released, as they are experts on finding bugs they can use in order to end the video game the fastest or get the highest score.

Before the casino launches their project, they will release in a UAT or the user acceptance testing that will bring into their Quality Assurance team or the QA to test any bugs before launching to the production mode. During the live of course, we cannot deny that there's an instance that will show up with some bugs that didn't find in that time, in that case they will temporarily terminate the services of the game and fix those bugs to prevent getting abused by the players.

I have no doubts that casinos take this issue very seriously, but there are an infinite combinations of hardware and they cannot test them all, so their tests will always be incomplete and there is always the possibility a bug may appear out of nowhere where they least expected it, still if a gambler were to find such a bug they must refuse to give into the temptation as it is likely they will be discovered anyway and they will not be able to make a single withdrawal.

[QueenVera]

Correct, it may seem impossible not only to find those bugs but to the bugs themselves to exist at all, but as you mention the more familiar a person is with a particular platform the easier it will be for them to notice a glitch they may be able to use for their own benefit.

And a great example of this are video games, in which fans of a particular game are able to break it completely just days after it has been released, as they are experts on finding bugs they can use in order to end the video game the fastest or get the highest score.

Before the casino launches their project, they will release in a UAT or the user acceptance testing that will bring into their Quality Assurance team or the QA to test any bugs before launching to the production mode. During the live of course, we cannot deny that there's an instance that will show up with some bugs that didn't find in that time, in that case they will temporarily terminate the services of the game and fix those bugs to prevent getting abused by the players.

I have no doubts that casinos take this issue very seriously, but there are an infinite combinations of hardware and they cannot test them all, so their tests will always be incomplete and there is always the possibly a bug may appear out of nowhere where they least expected it, still if a gambler were to find such a bug they must refuse to give into the temptation as it is likely they will be discovered anyway and they will not be able to make a single withdrawal.

Exactly @Silberman  that's why you'll see some sites shutdown temporarily and claim they're under maintenance, most times they've discovered bugs that seem treatful to them and have to temporarily close the app to fix them,  no business man or woman would want to lose money hence why did they start up the business if not to make money, the casino is not a charity home, so they know there would always be treat and many would want to use different means, either by hacking into the sites or whatsoever, and since the casinos are aware about this they'll always maintain there security to fix bugs or hackers from penetrating.
 Now back to the gamblers,  refusing to give into temptation is something most people find difficult to do when it comes to making money quick,  that's why about 50-60% of gamblers would want to take chances no matter the risk of getting caught, most of this people are poor or middle class people that's lost most of their money to gambling and would seize an opportunity if they discover any means of cheating the gambling platform to get rich quick or gey back their funds but the best way to avoid this temptation is by quiting even if it's not permanent, if you've lost enough money in gambling atleast pause for a while, study the game and how it works restrategise and you might be lucky when you try again after a while.

[Westinhome]

Correct, it may seem impossible not only to find those bugs but to the bugs themselves to exist at all, but as you mention the more familiar a person is with a particular platform the easier it will be for them to notice a glitch they may be able to use for their own benefit.

And a great example of this are video games, in which fans of a particular game are able to break it completely just days after it has been released, as they are experts on finding bugs they can use in order to end the video game the fastest or get the highest score.

Before the casino launches their project, they will release in a UAT or the user acceptance testing that will bring into their Quality Assurance team or the QA to test any bugs before launching to the production mode. During the live of course, we cannot deny that there's an instance that will show up with some bugs that didn't find in that time, in that case they will temporarily terminate the services of the game and fix those bugs to prevent getting abused by the players.

I have no doubts that casinos take this issue very seriously, but there are an infinite combinations of hardware and they cannot test them all, so their tests will always be incomplete and there is always the possibly a bug may appear out of nowhere where they least expected it, still if a gambler were to find such a bug they must refuse to give into the temptation as it is likely they will be discovered anyway and they will not be able to make a single withdrawal.

The bug is not only to the casino sites,the same bug is possible to the many sites.When the money was involved in the casino,it was taken as an serious subject.When the bug encountered,the gambler should share the same to the supporting team of the that casino.When the bug was escalated,the developers will look into it.So this is the process and the gambler should take responsibility to escalate the bug.It may affect sometimes the withdrawal of funds,the gamblers should relax till the issue was resolved.
@Peanutswar The developer of the project will allow the gamblers to use their site and give the feedback to the core developers team.This was used by developers to rectify the bug at the earliest stage,but some bug will comes after the casino site get into active.Such bug can be solved once the gamblers report after the bug comes on the usage of the casino site.

[internetional]

As a morally upright person that does not like to cheat people, but gambles and has lost a lot of money to gambling in a casino where you have sometimes been cheated even without your knowledge or betting on sports, will you take an opportunity you get and go against your moral standards to cheat a casino or sportsbetting place, just so you can win big at least even once.

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

Probably, my moral standards are too low. Yes, I would do both of such things. But if I knew I could get in prison for fraud, then my answer is no, definitely.