Turkish Super League 2023/24 Season

[ingiltere]

The events that took place were unbecoming. However, I don't think there will be proper punishments this year because the sense of justice has been damaged too much. Similar incidents are happening because there are no deterrent punishments. This season a club president beat up a referee, fans beat up players, last season a player who tried to neutralize a fan who attacked the referee was punished. Incidents that don't make sense are happening and no one is taking responsibility. This rambling is the most damaging thing for football.

We don't even get a chance to talk about football anymore. There are too many off-field factors, they need to be cleaned up.

[Captain Corporate]

This will definitely turn into a whole new saga. It was a disgusting display and not only did Trabzonspor apologized or anything like that, but they actually tried to say that they were right to be mad for whatever happened in the game. They are so blind to whats going on or what happened that they actually assume that if the game is unfairly matched, and if the opponent agitated you then you have the right to rush the field to beat the players, that's the mindset we are dealing with .I am terribly sorry for what happened and I am so upset that I fear about the future of our league as well. This will have ripple impact in the future, and I mean near future, we need to be very careful.

[W Jr.]

This will definitely turn into a whole new saga. It was a disgusting display and not only did Trabzonspor apologized or anything like that, but they actually tried to say that they were right to be mad for whatever happened in the game. They are so blind to whats going on or what happened that they actually assume that if the game is unfairly matched, and if the opponent agitated you then you have the right to rush the field to beat the players, that's the mindset we are dealing with .I am terribly sorry for what happened and I am so upset that I fear about the future of our league as well. This will have ripple impact in the future, and I mean near future, we need to be very careful.

Yes, it will be remembered as the most eventful match of this season. That's why Trabzonspor may face big penalties. I'm trying to erase this match from memory. Fenerbahçe will have an extraordinary meeting on April 2 after this match. It was a dark night for Turkish football. I hope we don't watch things like this again. Many of the players have played for important teams in the world. If it would be difficult for these players to ensure their safety and play football in such an environment, they would want to leave the country. They are right about this, too.

[Google+]

Trabzonspor fans consist of a mass that does not understand football. Our league is getting worse every day. Instead of talking about football, we talk about fighting. Watching the league is no longer enjoyable for anyone because they are bad in every field.

Football is supposed to be a sport that can unite every difference, precisely when the rivalry of a team and supporters has greatly influenced the mind and made them act anarchically as it is today, of course football no longer unites and makes us comfortable to watch it, what Trabzonspor supporters do is wrong because they have throwing rocks and other objects at fenerbache players when the game is still going on,  but I think what the fenerbache did was also very wrong because they celebrated the victory excessively which eventually provoked the emotions of the Trabzonspor supporters at that time to get on the pitch.

In addition, the fenerbache players and managers should have been able to immediately enter the dressing room to celebrate the victory, not provoke the audience which was indeed seen from the beginning if the Trabzonspor supporters had been very emotional, besides that what the two fenerbache players did should have received a severe punishment in my opinion, because Osayi-Samuel and also Michy Batshuayi were clearly seen in the footage if they were involved with beating the team's supporters opponents, especially Michy Batshuayi I think he should have received a harsher punishment for trying to kick someone who was not running towards him.

[Pulsar77]

Ali Koç made statements such as, if necessary, we will withdraw from the league and be relegated to a lower club, but we will not allow this to continue. It was a sad day for Turkish football. While the club presidents and clubs had no hostility towards each other, an incredible incident took place between the fans and the players.

Yesterday, the players could have been lynched, but they managed to leave the field without any major problems. I think the images that emerged as they left were normal. The players protected themselves, the fans should not have been on the field. Trabzonspor fans should also be thanked for trying to prevent it. Many people think that this incident will be covered up, whatever decisions will be made by TFF beforehand, I think the same.

This is a big disgrace for football in our country and this isn't the first time we are witnessing this kind of disgraceful things happening here.    I really wonder when football is going to start to be managed properly here. There is no such thing as 'the safety of players'. We have seen in it in this match very clearly. I saw Livakovic's last condition too after being attacked and it made me really sad for him.

The agenda changes very quickly in our country. I won't be surprised if people forget about these horrible things happened a short time after a while.

As for TFF I don't think the federation has been doing its job as it should be already. There is a need of a big change there.

[redsun114]

Fifa got involved I think, or it was Uefa, those are two different organizations but I always confuse them together, basically outside of Turkey got involved with it as well and they said they will closely follow the situation. It is clear that Trabzonspor will get a HUGE fine, there is no chance that they won't, it's just too clear, something so big that nobody else ever will attempt to do something like that for a long time just because of this I am sure of it.

Secondly, the biggest topic I see at twitter is the players at Fenerbahce side, because they were involved with the fight as well so everyone is expecting what the result will be. One side says they should be punished as well, and the other say they shouldn't be, and I agree that they shouldn't be punished, or even if they are, it should be something small, like just 1-2 games at max.

[execijutiere]

Fenerbahçe will most probably withdraw from the league. What happened after the Trabzonspor match is not normal. These events have a backstory and a history.  Ali Koç and his team's decision is final this time. After the April 2 general assembly meeting, if there is no step from the TFF, it seems that there will be a decision to withdraw from the league. If Fenerbahçe withdraws from the league, it will be bad for the Super League because it seems that the fans are also determined to withdraw from the league.

[MK-74]

Fenerbahçe will most probably withdraw from the league. What happened after the Trabzonspor match is not normal. These events have a backstory and a history.  Ali Koç and his team's decision is final this time. After the April 2 general assembly meeting, if there is no step from the TFF, it seems that there will be a decision to withdraw from the league. If Fenerbahçe withdraws from the league, it will be bad for the Super League because it seems that the fans are also determined to withdraw from the league.

Let's see what decision will be made on April 2. My guess is the exact opposite. They will most likely stay in the league because Ali Koç said that the penalties for withdrawing from the league are very high. If they withdraw from the league, Fenerbahçe will start again from the amateur league and it will take many years for them to reach the Super League.

[ingiltere]

They are in no hurry to announce the penalties because of the national match break. In less than 2 weeks local elections will be held. There are some who attribute the lack of announcement of the penalties to this election process. Fenerbahçe's decision to make an announcement on April 2 also coincides with the elections. Whatever negotiations are going on behind closed doors, everything has been left until after the elections. Frankly, I wonder how this will end.

[execijutiere]

Fenerbahçe will most probably withdraw from the league. What happened after the Trabzonspor match is not normal. These events have a backstory and a history.  Ali Koç and his team's decision is final this time. After the April 2 general assembly meeting, if there is no step from the TFF, it seems that there will be a decision to withdraw from the league. If Fenerbahçe withdraws from the league, it will be bad for the Super League because it seems that the fans are also determined to withdraw from the league.

Let's see what decision will be made on April 2. My guess is the exact opposite. They will most likely stay in the league because Ali Koç said that the penalties for withdrawing from the league are very high. If they withdraw from the league, Fenerbahçe will start again from the amateur league and it will take many years for them to reach the Super League.

Whatever punishment comes in terms of withdrawal from the league, it is discussed in the general assembly and a decision is taken by finding a common point. In this way, no one can question the decision taken with democracy. Most people are already aware that the league is a theatre and they do not want to continue this. In this way, I think that whatever happens, the fans will respect this decision. We can say that everyone who is devoted to Fenerbahçe and who is a member of the board will fully participate in this board and we can say that even the participation record will be broken.

[Pierre 2]

I am pretty sure Fenerbahçe is trying to block Turkish football federation to penalize their football players who replied Trabzonspor fans that attacked them. I understand argument Fener fans saying, "shouldn't our players protect themselves from attack?" Of course they have self defense right. But rules are rules. One Fenerbahçe footballer literally kicked a head of a fan like its a ball. Especially that guy definitely deserved punishment. Those punishments may be lightweight compared to normal cause of "self-defense" argument. Although I think they deserve punishment.

[Google+]

I am pretty sure Fenerbahçe is trying to block Turkish football federation to penalize their football players who replied Trabzonspor fans that attacked them. I understand argument Fener fans saying, "shouldn't our players protect themselves from attack?" Of course they have self defense right. But rules are rules. One Fenerbahçe footballer literally kicked a head of a fan like its a ball. Especially that guy definitely deserved punishment. Those punishments may be lightweight compared to normal cause of "self-defense" argument. Although I think they deserve punishment.

So far we know that Fenerbache has a high rivalry with Galatasaray and Trabzonspor, so when they celebrated their victory in the middle of the field it only made the Trabzonspor fans' emotions peak, In the footage circulating on social media, we can see from the start the match was running with high intensity which often this sparked a commotion and at that time the trabzonspor supporters also started throwing objects at the Fenerbache players, and it was clear that the security provided in the match was a little weak, allowing the fans to enter the field.

At the moment it is difficult to say who is right and who is wrong, because we also do not deny that players also have the right to defend themselves, but of course not by trying to kick a supporter's head with a kung fu kick which clearly also endangers other people, besides that in the recording it can be seen In fact, the players from the Fenerbache squad had been protected by stadium security at that time so there was no need to take excessive action.
Currently the case is being investigated by the Turkish authorities and I think hopefully we can see this problem Resolved quickly, so there is no need for Fenerbache to withdraw from the Turkish Super League as they are currently Considering right now.

[SATWAT]

Fenerbahçe will most probably withdraw from the league. What happened after the Trabzonspor match is not normal. These events have a backstory and a history.  Ali Koç and his team's decision is final this time. After the April 2 general assembly meeting, if there is no step from the TFF, it seems that there will be a decision to withdraw from the league. If Fenerbahçe withdraws from the league, it will be bad for the Super League because it seems that the fans are also determined to withdraw from the league.

Let's see what decision will be made on April 2. My guess is the exact opposite. They will most likely stay in the league because Ali Koç said that the penalties for withdrawing from the league are very high. If they withdraw from the league, Fenerbahçe will start again from the amateur league and it will take many years for them to reach the Super League.

Whatever punishment comes in terms of withdrawal from the league, it is discussed in the general assembly and a decision is taken by finding a common point. In this way, no one can question the decision taken with democracy. Most people are already aware that the league is a theatre and they do not want to continue this. In this way, I think that whatever happens, the fans will respect this decision. We can say that everyone who is devoted to Fenerbahçe and who is a member of the board will fully participate in this board and we can say that even the participation record will be broken.

Recently I was feeling things are going good for the Turkish soccer as their teams are improving their quality and having good chance for giving their best in all competitions, but things like these are surely going to create problems even I personally feel this all is not acceptable with they need to be had tough security checks and also tough rules for the all parties on same basis if they want to have good development and also increase into their fan base which will surely increase their revenues as well.
Fenerbahçe what going to do it's all will be appeared into next two weeks, but Turkish Federation is surely needing to work on their way for the improvement of many things which are important because now we have two big incidents in last few weeks which create bad impression around the soccer world.

[redsun114]

The economic consequences of such action will be quite dire, and will probably result with them having to rebuild. I am not saying that's good or bad, I am just saying that all these big name good quality players will not stay, and will want to move away, so they will have to be forced to sell most of them, and considering players are dying to leave at that point, it is also quite possible that they will not get top money for it neither. They will need to cut the budget down, and have a lot of debt already so it is going to be mostly cheaper players and a whole new rebuild.

You can't keep paying 5+ million euro to players at that level, max you should do is a million euro at most, probably not even that for most of the squad. These all have results, and may hurt them for yet another decade.

[Pierre 2]

The economic consequences of such action will be quite dire, and will probably result with them having to rebuild. I am not saying that's good or bad, I am just saying that all these big name good quality players will not stay, and will want to move away, so they will have to be forced to sell most of them, and considering players are dying to leave at that point, it is also quite possible that they will not get top money for it neither. They will need to cut the budget down, and have a lot of debt already so it is going to be mostly cheaper players and a whole new rebuild.

You can't keep paying 5+ million euro to players at that level, max you should do is a million euro at most, probably not even that for most of the squad. These all have results, and may hurt them for yet another decade.

Fenerbahçe's name worths a lot of money so they can still generate huge money through streaming revenue and overall sponsorships. But I also think most players would not like to play at 2nd league, they will directly cancel their contracts in emergency in my opinion. I also agree, even if Fenerbahçe returns back to Süper Lig in 1 year, it may take them 5 years to compete with Galatasaray because of some financial benefits gone. Rebuilding Süper Lig team is not easy task.

[Hirose UK]

Galatasaray still managed to stay at the top of the standings by holding the difference in points from Fenerbahce by 2 points, I think the match between Fenerbahce vs Trabzonspor will end in draw or win for Trabzonspor because in this match the performance of both is almost equal.
It just that Fenerbahce victory over Trabzonspor means they can save the full 3 points and get closer to getting points from Galatasaray, in the future, it is certain that there will be much fiercer competition because the fight for the title will continue.
Galatasaray and Fenerbahce are the strongest candidates in the race for the title because the other teams below these two team have very large difference in points and it is impossible for them to catch up.
Galatasaray and Fenerbahce will meet later before the season-ending competition finishes and we will see who is truly the strongest to be worthy of the title this season.
But they will also meet first in the Turkish Super Cup final on April 8.

[emrecemsan]

People are discussing the possibility of Fenerbahçe board to decide to withdraw from the league as well recently. However I'm not expecting such thing to happen. I wouldn't like to see one of the biggest teams of the Super League in lower leagues to tell the truth. These teams are keeping the prestige level of the Super League in its current place.

By the way I see it like there are 2 teams to join the Champions League qualification stage this season. Is it true? If it is then this means there is a chance that we have a potential to carry 2 teams from our country to the Champions League group stage. To increase the country coefficient this would be really great. 

[xzone]

I don't think there will be a serious decision regarding Fenerbahçe. Nobody wants to see one of Turkey's three biggest teams playing in the lower league. You cannot give an unfair penalty to a team with millions of fans.
I think this issue will be concluded with the penalties that a few players will receive. The president of the federation is already making speeches about unity and solidarity, people have to be more compassionate towards each other

[ingiltere]

I don't think there will be a serious decision regarding Fenerbahçe. Nobody wants to see one of Turkey's three biggest teams playing in the lower league. You cannot give an unfair penalty to a team with millions of fans.
I think this issue will be concluded with the penalties that a few players will receive. The president of the federation is already making speeches about unity and solidarity, people have to be more compassionate towards each other

I also think that they are afraid of making a decision that will affect the fate of the league, but there is a great chaos in the football in the country right now, so it's very difficult to predict what the decision will be. Leaving it until after the elections also increases the question marks. Why are they waiting for the election to announce the penalties, it's a strange situation.
There should be deterrent penalties to prevent such incidents from happening again, but we see major incidents like this several times every season. We can even say that we are used to this situation as a people.

[Dzigie]

I don't think there will be a serious decision regarding Fenerbahçe. Nobody wants to see one of Turkey's three biggest teams playing in the lower league. You cannot give an unfair penalty to a team with millions of fans.
I think this issue will be concluded with the penalties that a few players will receive. The president of the federation is already making speeches about unity and solidarity, people have to be more compassionate towards each other

Trabzonspor fans have harbored hatred against Fenerbahçe for years. This tension must be defused before something irreversibly bad happens. Everyone should remember that sports are for friendship and brotherhood. Of course, sporting achievements are important, but human life is more important than anything else. A peace event should be organized to ensure the friendship of both teams.

This week both teams will play easy opponents. I think Fenerbahçe will beat Adana Demirspor and Galatasaray will beat Hatayspor. Adana Demirspor and Hatayspor were good in the first half of the season, but they didn't show the same stability in the second half of the season.