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December 21, 2023, 12:12:08 PM
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Both top teams managed to get their wins today. Fenerbahce had a game where plenty of goals were scored 4-3 is not an easy feat, scoring 7 goals in a game, that was a fun game to watch I am sure, I only check the highlights, not even that if the game looked boring which makes me come to Galatasaray, I would probably check the goal alone and not anything else.

In the end, they both won, and now they are going to play against each other. Now this is the real betting opportunity starts, I am going to play for a draw, I know that the possibility of a draw is usually quite low, but I do believe that a draw would be quite possible and I think it would be quite profitable for me as well, they are both quite wonderful teams for sure.
It's a good one for both teams cause they needed to maintain their position in the standings, both teamx are having same points, and a drop in points wasn't needed at all, they understood the task at hand and did everything possible to win their matches,  Fenerbahce fought hard away from home to get the 3 points but it cost them one of their key players who got booked with a red card at 90+ minutes and won't be available when they face Galatasaray in their next fixture.

 Galatasaray on the other hand won their game without any stress, they dominated the game and kept a clean sheet by defeating Fatih Karagűmrűk 1-0 at their home ground, well i think their next fixture against Fenerbahce is going to be a very tough one, and would determine who would top the league, both teams are going to give out their all and i think that game might end up being a draw.

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December 21, 2023, 12:20:49 PM
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The red card for Fred makes no sense and the referee wrote in the report that he probably gave the red card for swearing.Zorbay Küçük, who failed UEFA's language test, must have understood the Portuguese swearing of Fred, who doesn't even speak English properly, because he showed the red card directly.The interesting thing will be how many matches this card will be announced by the arbitration board.If it is announced as 2 matches, it means a deliberate operation.I hope they won't make it so obvious that it was done so that he wouldn't play in the 2 Galatasaray matches Cheesy

Are you sure Fred doesn't speak English?
I just watched his interview in English when he was at M.United. https://twitter.com/mauroremanuel/status/1737522457639018664
And you don't need to know English to understand swear words.
Maybe Fred wanted to go on Christmas vacation?

You're talking nonsense. Fred has nothing to do, he's going on vacation for the next two Galatasaray derbies. Only idiots will fall for that. He's never missed a game and he's eager to play every game.
Fred's English is poor and it was a problem when he played for ManU. He was taking English lessons because he speaks Portuguese. So how come a referee who got 0 in the UEFA exam understood swearing in English?
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December 21, 2023, 02:08:59 PM
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The red card for Fred makes no sense and the referee wrote in the report that he probably gave the red card for swearing.Zorbay Küçük, who failed UEFA's language test, must have understood the Portuguese swearing of Fred, who doesn't even speak English properly, because he showed the red card directly.The interesting thing will be how many matches this card will be announced by the arbitration board.If it is announced as 2 matches, it means a deliberate operation.I hope they won't make it so obvious that it was done so that he wouldn't play in the 2 Galatasaray matches Cheesy

Are you sure Fred doesn't speak English?
I just watched his interview in English when he was at M.United. https://twitter.com/mauroremanuel/status/1737522457639018664
And you don't need to know English to understand swear words.
Maybe Fred wanted to go on Christmas vacation?

You're talking nonsense. Fred has nothing to do, he's going on vacation for the next two Galatasaray derbies. Only idiots will fall for that. He's never missed a game and he's eager to play every game.
Fred's English is poor and it was a problem when he played for ManU. He was taking English lessons because he speaks Portuguese. So how come a referee who got 0 in the UEFA exam understood swearing in English?
https://onedio.com/haber/sasirdik-mi-fifa-kokartli-hakem-zorbay-kucuk-un-uefa-nin-sinavinda-sifir-cekmesi-sosyal-medyanin-gundeminde-1068319

You are the one talking nonsense, is there anyone in Turkey who doesn't know English swear words? Even uncles in the village know what English swear words mean.
Be a realist, I'm not defending the referee here, I'm telling you that even people who don't speak any English understand English swear words.

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December 21, 2023, 02:22:01 PM
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The red card for Fred makes no sense and the referee wrote in the report that he probably gave the red card for swearing.Zorbay Küçük, who failed UEFA's language test, must have understood the Portuguese swearing of Fred, who doesn't even speak English properly, because he showed the red card directly.The interesting thing will be how many matches this card will be announced by the arbitration board.If it is announced as 2 matches, it means a deliberate operation.I hope they won't make it so obvious that it was done so that he wouldn't play in the 2 Galatasaray matches Cheesy

Are you sure Fred doesn't speak English?
I just watched his interview in English when he was at M.United. https://twitter.com/mauroremanuel/status/1737522457639018664
And you don't need to know English to understand swear words.
Maybe Fred wanted to go on Christmas vacation?

You're talking nonsense. Fred has nothing to do, he's going on vacation for the next two Galatasaray derbies. Only idiots will fall for that. He's never missed a game and he's eager to play every game.
Fred's English is poor and it was a problem when he played for ManU. He was taking English lessons because he speaks Portuguese. So how come a referee who got 0 in the UEFA exam understood swearing in English?
https://onedio.com/haber/sasirdik-mi-fifa-kokartli-hakem-zorbay-kucuk-un-uefa-nin-sinavinda-sifir-cekmesi-sosyal-medyanin-gundeminde-1068319

You are the one talking nonsense, is there anyone in Turkey who doesn't know English swear words? Even uncles in the village know what English swear words mean.
Be a realist, I'm not defending the referee here, I'm telling you that even people who don't speak any English understand English swear words.
I'm not going to argue with you because you have a narrow view and you're probably a Galatasaray fan. If I ask you why Torreira wasn't shown a red card for swearing yesterday, you'll get defensive again so there's no need. You are thinking one sided and not looking at the big picture. It was a deliberate operation and referees are always appointed in the same way. Zorbay Küçük's record against Fenerbahçe is clear. We can also see from the statistics that he issued most of the red cards against Fenerbahçe. This man is a hitman and he always does the same before or during important matches.
By the way, I don't care about uncles. Uncles do not take the UEFA exam, referees do. Let me also state that someone who draws 0 here means that he does not know any words in English.

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December 21, 2023, 02:46:53 PM
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The red card for Fred makes no sense and the referee wrote in the report that he probably gave the red card for swearing.Zorbay Küçük, who failed UEFA's language test, must have understood the Portuguese swearing of Fred, who doesn't even speak English properly, because he showed the red card directly.The interesting thing will be how many matches this card will be announced by the arbitration board.If it is announced as 2 matches, it means a deliberate operation.I hope they won't make it so obvious that it was done so that he wouldn't play in the 2 Galatasaray matches Cheesy

Are you sure Fred doesn't speak English?
I just watched his interview in English when he was at M.United. https://twitter.com/mauroremanuel/status/1737522457639018664
And you don't need to know English to understand swear words.
Maybe Fred wanted to go on Christmas vacation?

You're talking nonsense. Fred has nothing to do, he's going on vacation for the next two Galatasaray derbies. Only idiots will fall for that. He's never missed a game and he's eager to play every game.
Fred's English is poor and it was a problem when he played for ManU. He was taking English lessons because he speaks Portuguese. So how come a referee who got 0 in the UEFA exam understood swearing in English?
https://onedio.com/haber/sasirdik-mi-fifa-kokartli-hakem-zorbay-kucuk-un-uefa-nin-sinavinda-sifir-cekmesi-sosyal-medyanin-gundeminde-1068319

You are the one talking nonsense, is there anyone in Turkey who doesn't know English swear words? Even uncles in the village know what English swear words mean.
Be a realist, I'm not defending the referee here, I'm telling you that even people who don't speak any English understand English swear words.
I'm not going to argue with you because you have a narrow view and you're probably a Galatasaray fan. If I ask you why Torreira wasn't shown a red card for swearing yesterday, you'll get defensive again so there's no need. You are thinking one sided and not looking at the big picture. It was a deliberate operation and referees are always appointed in the same way. Zorbay Küçük's record against Fenerbahçe is clear. We can also see from the statistics that he issued most of the red cards against Fenerbahçe. This man is a hitman and he always does the same before or during important matches.
By the way, I don't care about uncles. Uncles do not take the UEFA exam, referees do. Let me also state that someone who draws 0 here means that he does not know any words in English.

You are absolutely right, I am a Galatasaray fan but I don't think like you, yes there is an operation against Fenerbahce but it is not only against Fenerbahce, it is against most teams in the league. I have been advocating for a change in the TFF management since the beginning, I want better managers to come in because I want to enjoy what I watch.
Sorry for not being as open-minded as you.

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December 21, 2023, 06:16:41 PM
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The red card for Fred makes no sense and the referee wrote in the report that he probably gave the red card for swearing.Zorbay Küçük, who failed UEFA's language test, must have understood the Portuguese swearing of Fred, who doesn't even speak English properly, because he showed the red card directly.The interesting thing will be how many matches this card will be announced by the arbitration board.If it is announced as 2 matches, it means a deliberate operation.I hope they won't make it so obvious that it was done so that he wouldn't play in the 2 Galatasaray matches Cheesy
Turns out he said "stupid" that's the report. I think a second yellow card (nearly the same result) would have been fine for that, but when you consider that a player who is already winning and it's 90+ additional time period, Fred knows he should not be still arguing with the ref. He was aware what he was doing, and he was aware that he was looking to get a second yellow card.

I think pastor did what he did for christmas, he was like that back at premier league and still same thing happened. I do not know how christmas is in turkey, but I assume he would leave for brazil and go back to his family, so it doesn't even matter. I know Turkey is a muslim nation but they do seem to have a lot of players and people who are christians as well, so maybe he will stay, I do not know to be fair.

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December 21, 2023, 06:45:37 PM
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While Besiktas have Rashica in the squad why wouldn't they like to have him in the starting eleven? There was a youngster named Semih Kilicsoy on the left wing but got replaced by Rashica in the 71st minute.

I know Rashica was injured but it looks like he was able to play today. Maybe Riza Calimbay didn't want to trigger his injury again by giving him a lot of time to play in this match. The score is still 1-1 and Besiktas are still desperate to score despite being the dominant side. They are just bad at finding the target and I don't know if they can score the winner like this.

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December 21, 2023, 07:20:59 PM
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Turns out he said "stupid" that's the report. I think a second yellow card (nearly the same result) would have been fine for that, but when you consider that a player who is already winning and it's 90+ additional time period, Fred knows he should not be still arguing with the ref. He was aware what he was doing, and he was aware that he was looking to get a second yellow card.

I think pastor did what he did for christmas, he was like that back at premier league and still same thing happened. I do not know how christmas is in turkey, but I assume he would leave for brazil and go back to his family, so it doesn't even matter. I know Turkey is a muslim nation but they do seem to have a lot of players and people who are christians as well, so maybe he will stay, I do not know to be fair.
If truly Fred said stupid then I think the ref was right in giving him the 2nd yellow, cause is very unprofessional to use a foul word on another player while on the pitch, Football is a mean of entertainment that can be used to promote peace and not for violence therefore as a professional player, one needs to be mindful of their actions and choices of words while on the pitch, he should've been aware of his 1st booking and try to avoid another one.

 Now look what his careless act has caused his team, they'll be playing against one of the toughest team in the league and therefore they'll all the strength from all areas of the squad, the absence of Fred would be an advantage to their opponents, cause Fred is one of their key players this season, well I'm not quite sure if Fred purposely attracted the booking to himself to be available for Christmas, however he'll really be missed by  the squad.

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December 21, 2023, 08:11:31 PM
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Yesterday when the Fenerbahce game ended I forgot to comment, it was a game with a lot of goals, it was a game with a lot of penalties, it was a game with a lot of red cards. It was a controversial game. so the game was tainted but despite all this Fenerbahce managed to come out with victory in this game, it was a very important victory for Fenerbahce who managed to stay at the top of the table with the same points as Galatasaray, it seems to me that this season the level of Competitiveness between Galatasaray and Fenerbahce is much stronger compared to last season. We'll see how long this will last, but for now both teams must be under a lot of pressure

because they know that a defeat or draw could cost them losing the top spot and consequently not being able to win the league. With that in mind, Galatasaray, who played against Caragurumk, had difficulty scoring many goals even though they were playing against a weak team that in the last 5 games did not have very good results. It was a victory for Galatasaray thanks to the good defense they had. With this victory, Galatasaray continues with the same points as Fenerbahce, who are trying hard this season so that they can win the league

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December 21, 2023, 09:35:48 PM
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While Besiktas have Rashica in the squad why wouldn't they like to have him in the starting eleven? There was a youngster named Semih Kilicsoy on the left wing but got replaced by Rashica in the 71st minute.

I know Rashica was injured but it looks like he was able to play today. Maybe Riza Calimbay didn't want to trigger his injury again by giving him a lot of time to play in this match. The score is still 1-1 and Besiktas are still desperate to score despite being the dominant side. They are just bad at finding the target and I don't know if they can score the winner like this.

If he was fit he would play but it looks like he's not ready for 90 minutes. Semih Kılıçsoy got too many chances this season but he couldn't use it wisely. I don't see him in the future squad if he keeps playing like that.
Beşiktaş got the lead but conceded 3 goals, the problem is all came from personal mistakes. You can't play like that in a Super League game constantly. Rıza Çalımbay have to punish those players. Concentration is gone. It's the manager's job to fix that. Amartey was awful today. The scoring problem continues. At least one striker and one scorer winger is needed in Winter transfer season.

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December 21, 2023, 10:02:44 PM
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Beşiktaş suffered a great defeat at home tonight.
The game became 3-1 from 1-0, there is still something not going well in Beşiktaş.
I hope they recover as soon as possible.

Çaykur Rizespor won differently tonight. They beat Pendikspor 5-1.

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Beşiktaş lost to Alanyaspor at home today. They already have a bad performance this season. They have already had a lot of bad results so far. But after coach Riza Calimbay took charge, they started to get worse results. I think they should sign a better coach for the second half of the season.

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December 21, 2023, 11:30:02 PM
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Beşiktaş lost to Alanyaspor at home today. They already have a bad performance this season. They have already had a lot of bad results so far. But after coach Riza Calimbay took charge, they started to get worse results. I think they should sign a better coach for the second half of the season.

I am sure that Fenerbahce and Galatasaray like very much what is happening behind them where the teams are dropping points frequently. They are miles ahead of everyone else with their remarkable performances.

No doubt that everyone is now looking forward to this amazing clash between the best two teams in the league. I hope this will be one of those games that the league is well known for. Wink I think everything is possible for this game, but I hope it doesn't get out of control and ends in some sad way as we have more often seen in recent times.

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Beşiktaş made a statement last night and parted ways with Rıza Çalımbay. I don't think anyone wants to come to this team now because they are really bad.
Beşiktaş is getting worse and worse every day.

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December 22, 2023, 10:33:30 AM
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Beşiktaş made a statement last night and parted ways with Rıza Çalımbay. I don't think anyone wants to come to this team now because they are really bad.
Beşiktaş is getting worse and worse every day.
Every manager on earth knows its nearly impossible to handle a team which was established by other managers. Pretty sure new manager for Beşiktaş will come up with very big shortlist to complete squad. This is probably causing issues because everyone knows Beşiktaş has messy financial health. I am expecting they want managers to keep low budget this winter transfer. I think they very likely expect new manager to start spending money next season to truly fix a team.
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December 22, 2023, 12:37:42 PM
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Fenerbahce and Galatasaray are still quite fierce rivals to this day, both of them are equal to 43 points and both have 1 defeat and 1 draw.
Maybe in the future their competition will really be like this in the fight for the title if both of them continue to have stable and consistent playing quality, but for this season I want Fenerbahce to be able to win the title and play in the UCL.
There will be striking difference when Fenerbahce can play in the UCL next season.

Currently the focus of the two team is different because Fenerbahce plays in the Turkish Super League and European Conference League while Galatasaray is in the European League because they failed in the UCL and finished 3rd.
The two teams meet only in the Turkish League so we will not see their competition in other competitions.

It just that for this season I really want to see Fenerbahce become champions and are favorites in the Turkish League this season.

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December 22, 2023, 03:29:39 PM
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Beşiktaş made a statement last night and parted ways with Rıza Çalımbay. I don't think anyone wants to come to this team now because they are really bad.
Beşiktaş is getting worse and worse every day.
Every manager on earth knows its nearly impossible to handle a team which was established by other managers. Pretty sure new manager for Beşiktaş will come up with very big shortlist to complete squad. This is probably causing issues because everyone knows Beşiktaş has messy financial health. I am expecting they want managers to keep low budget this winter transfer. I think they very likely expect new manager to start spending money next season to truly fix a team.

I am pretty sure it hurts even more when they see their rivals Galatasaray and Fenerbahce playing a perfect season thus far. The Europa League qualification can still be an attainable goal, but more than that is essentially not possible anymore unless Besiktas steps up their game by 1000% and the other Istanbul clubs lose consistency. But I doubt that they would drop so hard that Besiktas could make up for the difference in points that is already there.

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December 22, 2023, 05:54:05 PM
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If he was fit he would play but it looks like he's not ready for 90 minutes. Semih Kılıçsoy got too many chances this season but he couldn't use it wisely. I don't see him in the future squad if he keeps playing like that.
Beşiktaş got the lead but conceded 3 goals, the problem is all came from personal mistakes. You can't play like that in a Super League game constantly. Rıza Çalımbay have to punish those players. Concentration is gone. It's the manager's job to fix that. Amartey was awful today. The scoring problem continues. At least one striker and one scorer winger is needed in Winter transfer season.

I'm afraid Riza Calimbay has just got sacked by the board. The words he used after the last match must have made a big impact on this decision by the board. Things are still very shaky at Besiktas and it doesn't look like the rest of the season will get better for them either. But they can at least use this time period to find a way to recover and prepare strongly for next season.



There are only 2 days left for the big derby match between Fenerbahce and Galatasaray. The home advantage is really valuable for Fenerbahce but still we never know. Because both of these teams have been really solid so far. I expect an attacking game from both sides. I'm sure about that when it comes to Fenerbahce but I guess that Okan Buruk also wouldn't like to prefer a cautious game in a critical match like this.

I think both sides will score and it feels like Galatasaray won't lose as well.

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December 22, 2023, 06:20:18 PM
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Yesterday when the Fenerbahce game ended I forgot to comment, it was a game with a lot of goals, it was a game with a lot of penalties, it was a game with a lot of red cards. It was a controversial game. so the game was tainted but despite all this Fenerbahce managed to come out with victory in this game, it was a very important victory for Fenerbahce who managed to stay at the top of the table with the same points as Galatasaray, it seems to me that this season the level of Competitiveness between Galatasaray and Fenerbahce is much stronger compared to last season. We'll see how long this will last, but for now both teams must be under a lot of pressure

because they know that a defeat or draw could cost them losing the top spot and consequently not being able to win the league. With that in mind, Galatasaray, who played against Caragurumk, had difficulty scoring many goals even though they were playing against a weak team that in the last 5 games did not have very good results. It was a victory for Galatasaray thanks to the good defense they had. With this victory, Galatasaray continues with the same points as Fenerbahce, who are trying hard this season so that they can win the league
A controversial game is that of Fernabache’s like every minute had it’s own sweet times and crazy times and the fans would really enjoy this kind of game, Fernabache came out top against minor odds and this had kept them up to toe with Galatasaray . We can see how the league is improving and not just allowing one team take all the shine but 2-3 teams struggling for the top positions.

 Galatasary are still not relenting and are fighting in every match securing all 3 points but I think they should beginning to conside Goal Difference as that could play a major role to determine league leaders, and am pretty sure they'll give in their all to get at the top when they face Fenerbahce on Sunday, it going to be a very tough one. Cause neither of them would want to concede and drop points.

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December 22, 2023, 06:34:43 PM
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Every manager on earth knows its nearly impossible to handle a team which was established by other managers. Pretty sure new manager for Beşiktaş will come up with very big shortlist to complete squad. This is probably causing issues because everyone knows Beşiktaş has messy financial health. I am expecting they want managers to keep low budget this winter transfer. I think they very likely expect new manager to start spending money next season to truly fix a team.
I am pretty sure it hurts even more when they see their rivals Galatasaray and Fenerbahce playing a perfect season thus far. The Europa League qualification can still be an attainable goal, but more than that is essentially not possible anymore unless Besiktas steps up their game by 1000% and the other Istanbul clubs lose consistency. But I doubt that they would drop so hard that Besiktas could make up for the difference in points that is already there.
With this current performance I am not agreed anything positive coming for the Besiktas because they are conceding too many goals and things are getting worst for them difference of points is widening, and they are still have challenging matches ahead which will not allow them to have anything positive.

At the top Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray is holding good control and no other team can compete with them for the these two spots few teams which were having good performance in middle now also facing trouble time and losing points which making things not ideal but Besiktas is surely needs to have change of strategy and bringing some improvement in defence as well which will help them for staying at their level.

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