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December 13, 2023, 02:48:40 PM
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With the meeting held today, a statement came out that the indefinitely postponed leagues will resume on December 19.I think this statement was made in an unfortunate way.The TFF had taken the decision to postpone indefinitely very hastily.Now the matches will be shifted to the following week and Fenerbahçe will go away while Galatasaray will play at home. It seems to me that everything was planned.Galatasaray were going to go to Sivasspor away but it was announced that they would continue with the fixture a week later.This way the Sivasspor game would be played later because Galatasaray would be tired from the Copenhagen game.

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December 13, 2023, 03:16:25 PM
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A few things to note, for me is not so good to delay the torunament fot this incident, is a very heavy one, but i think is most usefull to punish the team or the man who punched the referee than stop the whole league.

In other things, what a shame from Galatasaray.... they can go easy to round of 16 in Champions, and they lose against a weak team like Copenaghe.

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December 13, 2023, 07:47:48 PM
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What happened last night is a disgrace.
There is nothing to say, even if the referees made right or wrong decisions, you can't do that.
They destroyed the reputation of our country.
The punishment should be severe but there will be no punishment because there is no justice in the country.

Yes a pure disgrace, unbelievable actually its something that I kind of expected, there
is so much emphasis put on respect in the game, it just goes to show there is no respect.

I stopped watching football a few years ago, too much negativity, for me it outweighs
the beautiful moments in the sport.

You are probably right about there being no punishment...

https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/turkish-club-president-arrested-punching-referee-minister-2023-12-12/

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The club president Koca was twice elected to Turkey's parliament as part of
President Tayyip Erdogan's ruling AK Party.

It could go two ways, he will either be hung out to dry or protected by his political friends.
Ankaragücü president Faruk Koca had previously received the Fair Play award. Imagine, a president who has received a Fair play award comes down to the field and punches the referee. No fan in Turkey is happy with the referee's decisions, but there was a smell that such an incident would happen, and when it did, it was a disgrace. The referees are protesting, they have come together and they are right, they are also afraid now. It is very interesting that the fans applaud the club president as he leaves the field. Could such a thing happen because of the violence he committed?

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December 13, 2023, 09:58:26 PM
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As far as I know Ankaragücü chairman Faruk Koca has resigned from his job at the club. But he shouldn't be able to get away with this that easy to be honest. He has only been exported from AK Parti by Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. But won't there be any legal punishment as well? I guess not and it is really sad to see the point Turkish football has come to.

Some legal experts pointed out a prison sentence for such action. But no matter how much they tell us this it doesn't matter unless it is applied. By the way as I expected the break won't last long. The leagues will be starting as of December 19.

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December 13, 2023, 09:58:48 PM
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 Football in the Turkish League have now become a corrupt sports, games are no longer played fairly and the outcomes however are just more or less inputed. The football bodies need to take a deep look at this league and send out necessary sanctions to all that requires it. First from the match officials that have now turned every game to a business just to go in the favor of the highest bidder. It's certain that if a game doesn't go fairly as it ought to, it'd cause fury in the fans and will in turn lead to break outs on the pitch. At thesame time, the fans ought to learn to control themselves and not cause disruption always in every game.

 At this point in time, there's just disorderliness in the league and if something isn't done about it, then definitely there'd be a lot of errors that may likely not get fixed just easily. The correction should start from the top tho and the football bodies should put more focus and strength on every happenings in the league, strict policies should as well be implemented as it'll make for proactive measures to curbing the excesses from both the teams, the referees and the fans too. Orderliness should be restored so the league won't loose its integrity and worth.

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December 13, 2023, 11:08:53 PM
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As far as I know Ankaragücü chairman Faruk Koca has resigned from his job at the club. But he shouldn't be able to get away with this that easy to be honest. He has only been exported from AK Parti by Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. But won't there be any legal punishment as well? I guess not and it is really sad to see the point Turkish football has come to.

Some legal experts pointed out a prison sentence for such action. But no matter how much they tell us this it doesn't matter unless it is applied. By the way as I expected the break won't last long. The leagues will be starting as of December 19.

Yup, he has resigned

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13028839/ankaragucu-president-faruk-koca-resigns-after-after-punching-referee-with-turkish-football-leagues-suspended-indefinitely

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I would like to announce to the public that I have resigned from the MKE Ankaragücü Presidency
in order to prevent any further harm to the Ankaragücü club, Ankaragücü fans, the community
I am in and my family.

I was thinking today again of what a ridiculous scenario that he put himself into, it was I'm sure
a moment of recklesness and of losing control of his emotions.

I was also thinking that he could have had a very large wager on his club to win that match but
it ended up being a draw and he lost . . . or that his job was on the line or something . . . I'm only
speculating of course.

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December 13, 2023, 11:33:33 PM
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Turkiye is a country of law. First of all, Ankaragücü president Koca had to resign from his post due to public pressure. Also, according to Article 44 of the TFF's disciplinary regulations, he will receive a 400-day suspension. Furthermore, according to Article 86 of the Turkish Penal Code, referees of matches are considered public officials, so the incident will turn into a public case. There is even a possibility that Ankaragücü president Koca will be sentenced to 1 to 3 years in prison for intentional injury.

Turkiye is a country that has been under the influence of one-party fascism for many years in the past. Some one-party fascists are trying to achieve through different means what they could not achieve by elections, and for this reason they use disinformation to mix politics into sports. Our country is a state of law that has fought against the putschist mentality for years and will continue to fight against the putschist mentality.

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December 14, 2023, 08:10:23 AM
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The TFF management needs to change. At the Clubs' Union meeting held yesterday, the presidents of most teams made statements expressing their opinions in this direction. Ali Koç, the president of the club association, emphasized the need for tough decisions. Although the absurdity of the decisions taken by the TFF was mentioned, he stated that unfortunately the decisions must be obeyed. Obviously, the club presidents do not want the current TFF president Mehmet Büyükekşi to continue in office any longer. For this reason, it is considered likely that a new president will take over the TFF.

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December 14, 2023, 08:56:03 AM
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Football in the Turkish League have now become a corrupt sports, games are no longer played fairly and the outcomes however are just more or less inputed. The football bodies need to take a deep look at this league and send out necessary sanctions to all that requires it. First from the match officials that have now turned every game to a business just to go in the favor of the highest bidder. It's certain that if a game doesn't go fairly as it ought to, it'd cause fury in the fans and will in turn lead to break outs on the pitch. At thesame time, the fans ought to learn to control themselves and not cause disruption always in every game.

 At this point in time, there's just disorderliness in the league and if something isn't done about it, then definitely there'd be a lot of errors that may likely not get fixed just easily. The correction should start from the top tho and the football bodies should put more focus and strength on every happenings in the league, strict policies should as well be implemented as it'll make for proactive measures to curbing the excesses from both the teams, the referees and the fans too. Orderliness should be restored so the league won't loose its integrity and worth.
It is normal that nowadays there are many sports industries which are really utilized by certain parties to make certain amount of money for themselves, and of course various events not only in Turkish football make most people consider football as the place of highest capitalism.
But if you think about the impact of case like that, it will have bad effect in the long term regarding the development of football there, progress will be slow and efforts to achieve success will also be difficult.
Turkish football has now become one of the competitions that many people can enjoy or enjoy, so the existence of cases like this in the future could also eliminate the feeling of liking for Turkish football.
Wouldn't this be shame if it happened?
The governing board of the Turkish football association must be able to overcome this, they must be able to suppress the existence of capitalism in their football so that it can support better development.

There is one case that is being talked about quite lot and this has really caused Turkish football to experience quite serious impact, namely the president of one of the teams who beat the referee.
Even worse, rumors are circulating that the Turkish Football Federation (TFF) has made statement that the League will be suspended for some time to come.
Cases like this should not happen but that is what Turkish football is experiencing and all the teams there must accept the impact.

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It is difficult for TFF management to change because those who come to the management do not want to leave, no matter how unsuccessful they are.
Turkish football is getting worse day by day, something must be done urgently, otherwise no one will watch this football.

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It is normal that nowadays there are many sports industries which are really utilized by certain parties to make certain amount of money for themselves, and of course various events not only in Turkish football make most people consider football as the place of highest capitalism.
But if you think about the impact of case like that, it will have bad effect in the long term regarding the development of football there, progress will be slow and efforts to achieve success will also be difficult.
Turkish football has now become one of the competitions that many people can enjoy or enjoy, so the existence of cases like this in the future could also eliminate the feeling of liking for Turkish football.
Wouldn't this be shame if it happened?
The governing board of the Turkish football association must be able to overcome this, they must be able to suppress the existence of capitalism in their football so that it can support better development.

There is one case that is being talked about quite lot and this has really caused Turkish football to experience quite serious impact, namely the president of one of the teams who beat the referee.
Even worse, rumors are circulating that the Turkish Football Federation (TFF) has made statement that the League will be suspended for some time to come.
Cases like this should not happen but that is what Turkish football is experiencing and all the teams there must accept the impact.
Football in the Turkish League have now become a corrupt sports, games are no longer played fairly and the outcomes however are just more or less inputed. The football bodies need to take a deep look at this league and send out necessary sanctions to all that requires it. First from the match officials that have now turned every game to a business just to go in the favor of the highest bidder. It's certain that if a game doesn't go fairly as it ought to, it'd cause fury in the fans and will in turn lead to break outs on the pitch. At thesame time, the fans ought to learn to control themselves and not cause disruption always in every game.

 At this point in time, there's just disorderliness in the league and if something isn't done about it, then definitely there'd be a lot of errors that may likely not get fixed just easily. The correction should start from the top tho and the football bodies should put more focus and strength on every happenings in the league, strict policies should as well be implemented as it'll make for proactive measures to curbing the excesses from both the teams, the referees and the fans too. Orderliness should be restored so the league won't loose its integrity and worth.

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December 14, 2023, 06:38:43 PM
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After this big disgrace in the Ankaragucu v Rizespor match the leagues are going to be continuing from where they left as of next Tuesday as you have also mentioned.

We are continuing like nothing happened. I hope that Faruk Koca gets punished accordingly. As there have been flaws in the law of our country for some time I'm afraid that I have some doubts about that.  Sad

When we return to the matches to be played next week I can say that Fenerbahce's job won't be easy at all. Because they are playing an away match against Kayserispor. As Kayserispor haven't been losing a single match for many weeks and they are at the 3rd position maybe Fenerbahce might lose points against them.

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December 14, 2023, 08:08:35 PM
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It is difficult for TFF management to change because those who come to the management do not want to leave, no matter how unsuccessful they are.
Turkish football is getting worse day by day, something must be done urgently, otherwise no one will watch this football.
Federation officials do not leave office. The problem here is not caused by them. The selfish act of a team president and the subsequent violence of a referee on the ground was already a bad enough sight for Turkish football. According to what I read, they banned the violent president indefinitely from football. I hope he gets rewarded for this with other punishments.

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December 14, 2023, 08:30:50 PM
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All these are quite shocking news, I mean these type of things do usually happens but usually do not end up with this much trouble. I have seen plenty of games where fans did rush the pitch and attack the refs, not like this was the first time ever in history that something like this happened, we have seen this happen so many times, so it is not really that shocking to me.

However, the result of postponing games, the president of the team being fired and turns out he was the one who did it, and all those are the new parts. Fans and hooligans do this all the time, it is not uncommon, but president of a club? Now that's a new thing and the leagues are postponed as well, things are looking a little bit chaotic for the league.

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December 14, 2023, 08:43:10 PM
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All these are quite shocking news, I mean these type of things do usually happens but usually do not end up with this much trouble. I have seen plenty of games where fans did rush the pitch and attack the refs, not like this was the first time ever in history that something like this happened, we have seen this happen so many times, so it is not really that shocking to me.

However, the result of postponing games, the president of the team being fired and turns out he was the one who did it, and all those are the new parts. Fans and hooligans do this all the time, it is not uncommon, but president of a club? Now that's a new thing and the leagues are postponed as well, things are looking a little bit chaotic for the league.

It is normal for someone who has been in fan groups in stadiums for years and has worked his way up to the presidency of a club. Unfortunately fanaticism always kills the mind. Someone who has lost his mind can do anything. There is no other explanation for what we are going through. We must be against all forms of violence in sports. It doesn't matter if it is referees or opposing teams, we should all be able to say no to violence. If we achieve this, football and sports will gain meaning.

Fenerbahçe had a fantastic win in the UEFA European Conference League. We will return to the league with high motivation and morale. I hope we can maintain this state until the derby match.

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December 14, 2023, 10:43:56 PM
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Ankaragücü fans will get 5 matches ban. The team will pay $69k fine. Ex president permanently banned after punching referee. This was expected. Some people expect harsher punishment but we know how things go in Türkiye.
There will be no matches this weekend but the league will restart in Tuesday. This match week will be played in January. Obviously this fixture change has negative effects but I don't think there would be any other solution. The fixture is tight already and there is no room to play games.

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December 14, 2023, 10:59:06 PM
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Fenerbahçe had a fantastic win in the UEFA European Conference League. We will return to the league with high motivation and morale. I hope we can maintain this state until the derby match.

I have similar thoughts in the opposite direction. I was sad that Galatasaray was eliminated from the Champions League, but the Champions League is an arena with tough matches, so it had a negative impact on league matches. Now I think we can focus more on the league, so I think we will make fewer mistakes in the league.

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December 14, 2023, 11:20:18 PM
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Ankaragücü fans will get 5 matches ban. The team will pay $69k fine. Ex president permanently banned after punching referee. This was expected. Some people expect harsher punishment but we know how things go in Türkiye.
There will be no matches this weekend but the league will restart in Tuesday. This match week will be played in January. Obviously this fixture change has negative effects but I don't think there would be any other solution. The fixture is tight already and there is no room to play games.

More severe punishment? The Turkish Football Federation can only impose sanctions for incidents that fall under its jurisdiction.



Turkish Football Federation sentenced Faruk Koca to permanent disqualification. Furthermore, the Turkish Football Federation sentenced Ankaragücü to 5 matches without spectators and a monetary penalty of 2 million 200 thousand Turkish Liras. The Turkish Football Federation did what it had to do.

I think it was a correct and measured punishment. I congratulate the Turkish Football Federation.


However, all is not over. Faruk Koca will also be tried for intentional injury, threats and entering forbidden areas...

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December 14, 2023, 11:22:44 PM
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I have similar thoughts in the opposite direction. I was sad that Galatasaray was eliminated from the Champions League, but the Champions League is an arena with tough matches, so it had a negative impact on league matches. Now I think we can focus more on the league, so I think we will make fewer mistakes in the league.
Mistakes are made just once and another doesn't counts to be happening. This is strict warnings to all Turkish clubs, if they can't compete in UEFA Champions League football, they should probably quit and settle only in their domestic league. The looks of things this season for Turkish clubs, they found it really hard for obtaining pleasant spots in the major tournaments they qualified for, they got eliminated and now we will watch some  of them performing in the Europa League and some will return home without relevant scores to depend on.

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December 15, 2023, 07:41:01 PM
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More severe punishment? The Turkish Football Federation can only impose sanctions for incidents that fall under its jurisdiction.



Turkish Football Federation sentenced Faruk Koca to permanent disqualification. Furthermore, the Turkish Football Federation sentenced Ankaragücü to 5 matches without spectators and a monetary penalty of 2 million 200 thousand Turkish Liras. The Turkish Football Federation did what it had to do.

I think it was a correct and measured punishment. I congratulate the Turkish Football Federation.


However, all is not over. Faruk Koca will also be tried for intentional injury, threats and entering forbidden areas...
I must commend the Turkish Football Federation for serving justice to the defaulters, cause they brought same and embarrassment to the country and deserves to be punished, alot of fans has complained about the situation, saying the Federation is full of corruption and nothing would be done to the defaulters cause of the positions they hold in their team, however the TFF have cleared alot of doubts and proved that theirs still fairness in the game.

 This would serve as a warning to others that has plans to commit such act and fell they'll go Scott free, atleast they'll learn to be calm and control their temper, so as not to put their team in a situation, to be honest the TFF did the right thing by serving the defaulters the right punishment,finally Justice have been served to them.

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