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Question: 2023/24 Season Champion?  (Voting closed: September 22, 2023, 09:57:02 AM)
Beşiktaş - 8 (36.4%)
Fenerbahçe - 5 (22.7%)
Galatasaray - 9 (40.9%)
Trabzonspor - 0 (0%)
Other - 0 (0%)
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January 19, 2024, 09:17:50 PM
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Tomorrow Beşiktaş will play against Pendikspor. It's a match with a low level of difficulty, but they still need to be careful because in the first half of the season, while the match was going 1-0, there was a penalty in the last minutes and Beşiktaş lost unnecessary two points.
Beşiktaş won the last 3 matches, they are in good spirits and aim to get close to the top of the league again by winning this match. Salih Uçan wasn't included in the squad because he was still injured. Chamberlain has not yet returned either. Apart from that, there are no shortcomings in the team except for the known deficiencies.

Some important games tomorrow but I think the most important one is the game Galatasaray vs. Trabzonspor, which also has an effect for Besiktas if Trabzonspor can't win. It would be the chance for Besiktas to temporarily make it into the third position and Fenerbahce could extend their lead in a pretty easy home game against Samsunspor.

Since the Champions League qualification is out of reach for Besiktas, I believe focusing on getting the third position is the only thing that makes sense for them at this point of the season. Anything else would be a wonder to say the least.

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January 19, 2024, 09:28:04 PM
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I think it will be an easy game for Beşiktaş, I guess they will win differently. It will be an easy 3 points for Beşiktaş.
Pendikspor is one of the worst teams in the League.

This week will be a difficult week for Galatasaray, it is an important game and they need to get 3 points.

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January 19, 2024, 10:08:02 PM
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I think it will be an easy game for Beşiktaş, I guess they will win differently. It will be an easy 3 points for Beşiktaş.
Pendikspor is one of the worst teams in the League.

This week will be a difficult week for Galatasaray, it is an important game and they need to get 3 points.

I agree with you about Beşiktaş' match. As of Fernando Santos' being brought to the manager position the team have started to play much more different. They scored 7 goals and conceded 0 in their last 2 Super League matches. This is a really huge progress for them when we think about their previous inconsistencies. This might be a reaction to a change as well of course so the only way to understand it is to wait until the end of the season.

But now Pendikspor is also not a big threat for Beşiktaş while they are playing in a strong way. They should be winning by at least a 2-goal difference.

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January 19, 2024, 10:26:40 PM
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Some important games tomorrow but I think the most important one is the game Galatasaray vs. Trabzonspor, which also has an effect for Besiktas if Trabzonspor can't win. It would be the chance for Besiktas to temporarily make it into the third position and Fenerbahce could extend their lead in a pretty easy home game against Samsunspor.

Since the Champions League qualification is out of reach for Besiktas, I believe focusing on getting the third position is the only thing that makes sense for them at this point of the season. Anything else would be a wonder to say the least.

I don't think that match will affect Beşiktaş much. Beşiktaş's goal is to catch the top two, and if they make a mistake, to get close to them. There is no race for third place anyway, Beşiktaş will be ahead of Trabzonspor at the end of the league. Trabzonspor is really bad this season but they managed to beat Fenerbahçe away. Why can't they do the same against Galatasaray? After all, these two teams are not invincible. What confuses me is why the bookmakers are still giving Beşiktaş such high odds? So they are not convinced that they are doing well. This is actually a great opportunity for us. We need to make good use of such high odds. Even the Eyüpspor match had high odds. Now there are very good odds in the Pendikspor match as well. It looks good when we look at risk/reward ratio.

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January 19, 2024, 11:48:55 PM
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I don't think that match will affect Beşiktaş much. Beşiktaş's goal is to catch the top two, and if they make a mistake, to get close to them. There is no race for third place anyway, Beşiktaş will be ahead of Trabzonspor at the end of the league. Trabzonspor is really bad this season but they managed to beat Fenerbahçe away. Why can't they do the same against Galatasaray? After all, these two teams are not invincible. What confuses me is why the bookmakers are still giving Beşiktaş such high odds? So they are not convinced that they are doing well. This is actually a great opportunity for us. We need to make good use of such high odds. Even the Eyüpspor match had high odds. Now there are very good odds in the Pendikspor match as well. It looks good when we look at risk/reward ratio.

I am not saying that you are wrong, but what is the probability that Galatasaray will drop 16 points whereas Besiktas wins all of their remaining 18 games? Because that is what is needed for Besiktas to be even with Galatasaray and if they want to catch Fenerbahce, it would even be 18 points.

Winning the game against Galatasaray would make it a gap of13 points and it still seems unrealistic to me that Besiktas could make up for that given that they might lose one or two games themselves at least. They have 7 losses already. I don't think that anyone is proactively talking about the title at the moment.

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January 20, 2024, 08:32:12 AM
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I think it will be an easy game for Beşiktaş, I guess they will win differently. It will be an easy 3 points for Beşiktaş.
Pendikspor is one of the worst teams in the League.

This week will be a difficult week for Galatasaray, it is an important game and they need to get 3 points.

I think Beşiktaş are still lacking in terms of form, they have a very up and down form. It is hard to understand if it is good or bad. However, with the new coach Santos, they have made a breakthrough. We can see this in Beşiktaş's recent games. Beşiktaş's defense and offense have been performing well in recent matches. They scored 11 goals in the last three matches. Pendikspor is a desperate team in the league. Umut Nayir may be hope for Pendik, but Pendikspor has no chance against Beşiktaş.

Even though Trabzonspor has a point difference with the top teams, they are still in the race for the top and I think the Galatasaray match is important for them. However, the club is struggling with internal turmoil at the moment. Galatasaray can take advantage of this situation and the Trabzonspor match can be comfortable for them.

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January 20, 2024, 01:32:13 PM
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Fenerbahçe will play against Samsunspor tomorrow. Samsunspor is an easy opponent for us, but every game in this league now has a final atmosphere because Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe are very close to each other, so some points lost in the league may not be recoverable. If we score the first goal in the early minutes of this game, we can play a comfortable game. We had a difficult time against Gaziantep because we couldn't do that and I hope we won't make the same mistake in this game.

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January 20, 2024, 01:53:08 PM
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Fenerbahçe will play against Samsunspor tomorrow. Samsunspor is an easy opponent for us, but every game in this league now has a final atmosphere because Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe are very close to each other, so some points lost in the league may not be recoverable. If we score the first goal in the early minutes of this game, we can play a comfortable game. We had a difficult time against Gaziantep because we couldn't do that and I hope we won't make the same mistake in this game.
For a team to be playing to be playing in the first division of the Turkish Super Lig, it simply means that they're a strong team in their own ranks and that's why Galatasaray aren't expected to leave underestimate the strength of their opponents in this weekend's league game. In 20 league games this season, Samsunspor have been able to gather 21 points and are currently 16th in the league table.

Galatasaray knows how important the game is to them to still remain in good position to overtake Fenerbahce at the top of the league table and would do everything within their strength to make sure they grab all three points from the game. I think it'll be an easy win for Galatasaray.

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January 20, 2024, 04:39:55 PM
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I think it will be an easy game for Beşiktaş, I guess they will win differently. It will be an easy 3 points for Beşiktaş.
Pendikspor is one of the worst teams in the League.

This week will be a difficult week for Galatasaray, it is an important game and they need to get 3 points.

I think Beşiktaş are still lacking in terms of form, they have a very up and down form. It is hard to understand if it is good or bad. However, with the new coach Santos, they have made a breakthrough. We can see this in Beşiktaş's recent games. Beşiktaş's defense and offense have been performing well in recent matches. They scored 11 goals in the last three matches. Pendikspor is a desperate team in the league. Umut Nayir may be hope for Pendik, but Pendikspor has no chance against Beşiktaş.

Even though Trabzonspor has a point difference with the top teams, they are still in the race for the top and I think the Galatasaray match is important for them. However, the club is struggling with internal turmoil at the moment. Galatasaray can take advantage of this situation and the Trabzonspor match can be comfortable for them.
You were right about Umut Nayir. He scored in the 4th minute and it is a big advantage for Pendikspor. Now we will understand whether Santos can be a coach in the super league or not. I think falling behind early in an Anatolian away game(I know it is in Istanbul but still..) is the most undesirable scenario for a coach, especially for a coach who likes a defensive approach, it's a nightmare. Exactly this scenario separates the big team coach from the normal coach. It seems that the choice of the squad was not very correct. This match will be difficult for Beşiktaş. Also this stadium is such a disgrace for the league, it is even harder to play in these kinds of stadiums. It is an advantage for Pendik.
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January 20, 2024, 04:46:16 PM
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Having scored early, Pendikspor retreats to their own half and uses the scoring advantage to the fullest. Beşiktaş's efforts to unlock this defense go unanswered. Failed crosses into the penalty area, no shot attempts from distance, no results from set-pieces. Santos need to try something else in the second half. The team lacks creative players. Without Chamberlain, there is no one in the team who can do this job. Rebic and Ghezzal might come on in the second half, apart from them there is no player on the bench who can change the game.

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I think Beşiktaş are still lacking in terms of form, they have a very up and down form. It is hard to understand if it is good or bad. However, with the new coach Santos, they have made a breakthrough. We can see this in Beşiktaş's recent games. Beşiktaş's defense and offense have been performing well in recent matches. They scored 11 goals in the last three matches. Pendikspor is a desperate team in the league. Umut Nayir may be hope for Pendik, but Pendikspor has no chance against Beşiktaş.

Even though Trabzonspor has a point difference with the top teams, they are still in the race for the top and I think the Galatasaray match is important for them. However, the club is struggling with internal turmoil at the moment. Galatasaray can take advantage of this situation and the Trabzonspor match can be comfortable for them.
Besiktas is one team in the Turkish League that are to an extent doing well for themselves. Even though they don't get to have a spot in the UCL, they still try their best to earn a spot in the UEL  and while at that segment of the European tournament, they do their best to gain good results. Besiktas being one of the top teams in the league still has the tendency of rising to a better stance. The team is set to make a positive turn around in the team and their game play will be improved too. We hope to see the new Besiktas a few days and weeks from now and see the difference they'd make.

 Fernabache and Galatasaray are good teams with good quality of players and both are capable of making the contest tough. But we await who'd be the greatest of them all. They are making the struggle for the league trophy more difficult because they are giving thesame victory energy and aura, the points gathered, the goal differences, they're seemingly the toughest team in the league and their victory is so certain. In a long while in the Turkish League, deciding the league's winner will take a while because these two teams are good at what they do. They're making the league's football more fun especially when it has to do with these two teams.

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January 20, 2024, 07:07:01 PM
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It was such a disappointment for Beşiktaş fans as they got a really huge defeat against Pendikspor. When I saw the score as 4-0 I must admit that it was really shocking. It looks like Beşiktaş wasted a lot of opportunities in the first half. But still I bet nobody expected them to lose points like this. They actually started well with Fernando Santos but this embarrassing loss would surely be criticized by the fans.

But personally I don't think it is fair to judge a new manager very quickly. Teams in this league are likely to change managers quite often because of being impatient. I know Beşiktaş' having difficult times but they need time to recover no matter what.

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Just when we thought the team had improved with the new manager, losing with such an unexpected score broke all morale. The team's goal-scoring problem is very deep, they got active in a few matches, but they finished without scoring a goal again in this match. We cannot see the well-known Beşiktaş in the goal path. There is no trace of the team that possesses the ball, concentrates the game in the opponent's half and enters the penalty area with quick passes. This is the first point that the manager needs to change. The second point is simple mistakes made in defense. Today they conceded goals due to simple mistakes. These were truly impossible goals. Especially such big teams shouldn't concede the goals scored by Thiam and Sequeira. Lessons must be learned from the game on the field today.

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I thought Beşiktaş would win differently, but they lost differently.
Pendikspor surprised everyone tonight. We watched very good goals this evening.
Mert conceded very good goals. Beşiktaş needs a new goalkeeper.
Mert is generally not a suitable goalkeeper for Beşiktaş.

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Beşiktaş showed some seeds of hope to its fans in its last matches. With the result tonight, it was a result that reminded us of the true state of the team. It's ridiculous how long Beşiktaş can continue with this squad.

They played a very bad game today, it seems like this defeat was a bit too much. First of all, it should be noted that Beşiktaş's squad is very bad. Changing the coach does not bring any benefit to the team. Conceding four goals from a relegated team is entirely down to the players.

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January 20, 2024, 09:31:18 PM
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Beşiktaş showed some seeds of hope to its fans in its last matches. With the result tonight, it was a result that reminded us of the true state of the team. It's ridiculous how long Beşiktaş can continue with this squad.

They played a very bad game today, it seems like this defeat was a bit too much. First of all, it should be noted that Beşiktaş's squad is very bad. Changing the coach does not bring any benefit to the team. Conceding four goals from a relegated team is entirely down to the players.
How Besiktas went from being one of the strongest teams in the Turkish Super Lig to become an average team that's very beatable this season have been a surprise to me and I'm sure to many other football fans especially the club fans.

Last season, they finished the season in the third position behind on the league winners Galatasaray and Fenerbahce who finished second but with their embarrassing performance in today's game against Pendikspor, I think it'll be very difficult for them to have a better season than that of last campaign. The manager really have a lot of tactical work to do in other to improve the performance of the team.

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January 20, 2024, 10:17:48 PM
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It was such a disappointment for Beşiktaş fans as they got a really huge defeat against Pendikspor. When I saw the score as 4-0 I must admit that it was really shocking. It looks like Beşiktaş wasted a lot of opportunities in the first half. But still I bet nobody expected them to lose points like this. They actually started well with Fernando Santos but this embarrassing loss would surely be criticized by the fans.

But personally I don't think it is fair to judge a new manager very quickly. Teams in this league are likely to change managers quite often because of being impatient. I know Beşiktaş' having difficult times but they need time to recover no matter what.
The league has been quite favourable for Besiktas, they've had good and bad times, victories and losses too. Though the first half was a bit shaky due to the management switch and the team just had to find a soft landing. Well they've arrived to secure a 3points with good goal margin from their last game and this only means that there's positivity ahead for them. All they need to do is try as much as possible to maintain this form, so as to seal a spot for the top.4.

 There's confidence and high expectations in and from the team and truthfully, they're likely to deliver. The odds are in their favor. One would watch them up until the season ends and see how far and well they'd achieve. The coach himself will put in extra work to cover up the breaches that were experienced at the beginning journey through the season. There's still ample time to cover up.

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January 21, 2024, 11:06:58 AM
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Today Galatasaray will play away against Trabzonspor. Trabzonspor have not lost their last 6 matches in the league. They started to become a good team after Abdullah Avci took charge of the team. They have been getting good results in recent weeks. But important players like Paul Onuachu, Nicolas Pepe, and Trezeguet will not play in this match due to the African Cup of Nations. On the other hand, Galatasaray will be without Hakim Ziyech and Cedric Bakambu due to the African Cup of Nations. Still, these players have not usually been in the starting lineup this season, they have mostly been substitutes. I want Galatasaray to win this game because we are currently 2 points behind Fenerbahçe. If we lose this match, the difference in points between us and Fenerbahçe will increase a lot. Today I will reserve my whole program for this match. I will go to a pub with my friends and watch this match. I am already very excited.

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January 21, 2024, 03:09:46 PM
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Fenerbahçe lost 2 points today against Samsunspor. The league is a long marathon. Of course it is normal to lose points in this marathon, but it was very sad for me as a fan to lose points in a game where we did not give any goal positions to the opponent and failed to make use of very clear goal positions.

In matches between Galatasaray and Trabzonspor, there are usually interesting goals and interesting results. I expect a similar result in tonight's match. Trabzonspor can get a surprise win tonight.

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January 21, 2024, 03:20:52 PM
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It is interesting that a team like Fenerbahçe, which is playing for the championship, loses points on its home field against a team like Samsunspor, which is struggling to stay in the group.
It came to my mind years ago. I think it was 2003-2004. Fenerbahçe lost points against Samsunspor in its home field, but at the end of the year, it finished the league as champion. Before the match was played, I thought of a score of 1-1, but I said it would never happen, Fenerbahce would score 4-5 goals and send Samsunspor to Samsun, but it didn't happen.😔
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