Turkish Super League 2023/24 Season

[CLS63]

Unfortunately we lost our chance to become the champions with the 2 points we lost today. Even though Fenerbahçe have had a very good squad this season they are closing the season without winning a single trophy. Everyone needs to think on this. When it comes to the match I think that the referee made a wrong decision on the penalty Sivasspor won in the last minute.

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[Roseline492]

The level of quality fenerbahce has on its squad is just unreal, we are talking about literally striker of the last years UCL finals Dzeko, look that is just one single player, they literally have UCL finalist striker, then tadic, then others, this team is not losing to a small club, they will get an easy win.

Fenerbahçe has a great squad. Dzeko, Tadic, Fred and Livakovic are players of above average quality. However, the title race in the league this season is very tough. We have only one defeat this season. Galatasaray also has only one defeat. The ranking between the two teams is determined by the number of draws this season. Sometimes I blame club president Ali Koç and manager İsmail Kartal, but I don't want to be too unfair to them. I'm sure everyone wants to do their best.

Truly Fenerbahçe has a very good and capable players that has the performance to win the league because they have been one of the best club on this league and because of there good performance every other clubs apart from Galatasaray use to be afraid of them because of there consistent wining and the kind of players they have, so perhaps I wouldn't underestimate them because of there inability to lead the league because from the beginning of the season they almost had the opportunity of wining the league because they leading on the table then but it was unfortunate for them that there little inconsistency lead to there failure of wining the league because in as much as they have a bit closer point with Galatasaray doesn't determine there possibility of beating Galatasaray in terms of point.

[Gencecikmen]

Fenerbahce 2-2 draw, sharing points with Sivasspor and slipping from the top spot. This result drops Fenerbahce to second place with 86 points, now four points behind Galatasaray in the lead. Sivasspor, on the other hand, secured a valuable result, solidifying their position in tenth place in the middle of the Süper Lig table. Also, Fred scored a strike from outside the box great goal.

[execijutiere]

Fenerbahce dropped 2 points with a draw in Sivasspor away from Sivasspor, leaving Fenerbahce behind in the race.Ismail Kartal is clearly not managing his team.Fenerbahce, which was eliminated from 3 cups in 15 days because of him, no longer has any goal in my opinion.I don't think the gap will be closed in the league because as long as the TFF is biased, it seems impossible for Galatasaray to lose points. We can argue a lot about the penalty that was awarded in the last minutes but I honestly don't think it was a penalty.Livakovic's foot may have touched it but the player started to fall without touching Livakovic.It's another thing that all the commentators think it wasn't a penalty.

[Slow death]

Sivasspor 2 - 2 Fenerbahce

yesterday Sivasspor played against Fenerbahçe, in my opinion this was a game that I considered to be a risky game for Fenerbahçe because the opponent who in the last 4 games lost in 2 games and won in 2 games, came to this game with a sequence of 2 victories and in this case it was a sign that they should not be underestimated and knowing Fenerbahçe, betting on Fenerbahçe to win was a big risk. I say this because last season Fenerbahçe was leading the table, but when they reached the middle of the league they started to be an unstable team until the end of the league, which in my opinion gave me the feeling that I shouldn't trust Fenerbahçe after they passed the middle of the league and are close to the bottom of the league
 
and this season Fenerbahçe started the same mistake as last season, which is why I started not betting on them in these last games unless they were playing against an extremely weak team that doesn't win many games. As in the case of Sivasspor in the last 2 games they won, so I quickly saw that betting on Fenerbahce to win was too risky and I was right. In yesterday's game, Fenerbahce wasted many good opportunities to score a goal, it was not acceptable for a team like Fenerbahce to waste so many good opportunities like the ones they had yesterday while Sivasspor, who had few opportunities, managed to score 2 goals.

something strange I saw in this game:



 

Why did the referee award a penalty when the Fenerbahce player didn't tackle the Sivasspor player and also the Fenerbahce goalkeeper didn't tackle the Sivasspor player?

[Sunderland]

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Why did the referee award a penalty when the Fenerbahce player didn't tackle the Sivasspor player and also the Fenerbahce goalkeeper didn't tackle the Sivasspor player?

Yes, the penalty was controversial, but after looking at replays and some screenshots from Google, there were actually two direct contacts.
And from the first picture it looks like it was a foul, there was a kick/push to the back knee of Sivasspor player no 9/Rey Manaj.

[Palakka]

Sivasspor 2 - 2 Fenerbahce

yesterday Sivasspor played against Fenerbahçe, in my opinion this was a game that I considered to be a risky game for Fenerbahçe because the opponent who in the last 4 games lost in 2 games and won in 2 games, came to this game with a sequence of 2 victories and in this case it was a sign that they should not be underestimated and knowing Fenerbahçe, betting on Fenerbahçe to win was a big risk. I say this because last season Fenerbahçe was leading the table, but when they reached the middle of the league they started to be an unstable team until the end of the league, which in my opinion gave me the feeling that I shouldn't trust Fenerbahçe after they passed the middle of the league and are close to the bottom of the league
 

Regardless of whether or not the controversial penalty was legitimate, but I think the draw was a big loss for fenerbache on their way to continue competing with Galatasaray, when fenerbache who did appear more dominant on all fronts should have won more goals than only two goals they could have created in the game,  Fenerbache had many chances to score but the number of chances they wasted actually made the hope of winning the game lost when Sivasspor got a penalty in the final minute of the game.

I don't want to say if the fenerbache victory was robbed but what is certain Is that fenerbache players and coaches often backfire on their own team which in the end makes fenerbache lose, for now fenerbache only needs to hope galatasaray slip up in their remaining matches so that that fenerbache can again open their chances of winning the league this season, currently fenerbache and galatasaray are 4 points apart so it is very important for fenerbache not Again drop points and maybe the situation and chances will change if Fenerbache can win a crucial match against Galatasaray in week 37 later.

[dezoel]

These type of unexpected draws (or even a loss) is natural part of the game, that's how you lose in the end anyway. I can understand that there could be some situations that fans will be mad about, but reality is that it happens all around the world. Just look at El Classico, literally one of the most watched regular season games of all time, and there was a mistake there too, it is not like we are going to be fully seeing 100% perfect games, mistakes happens everywhere if that was a mistake.

Secondly, teams do lose when they are leading, look at Arsenal and Liverpool, they were both ahead of City, and they both lost at the very same week, to lower level teams, and basically gave the title to Manchester City for free, it just happens.

[Dzigie]

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Why did the referee award a penalty when the Fenerbahce player didn't tackle the Sivasspor player and also the Fenerbahce goalkeeper didn't tackle the Sivasspor player?

Yes, the penalty was controversial, but after looking at replays and some screenshots from Google, there were actually two direct contacts.
And from the first picture it looks like it was a foul, there was a kick/push to the back knee of Sivasspor player no 9/Rey Manaj.

I don't like talking about referees because some situations are gray areas. It's impossible for us to interpret gray areas neutrally. I don't think I can ever be neutral because I am a Fenerbahçe supporter, but I do have a comment on this situation.

In the first photo, it appears that Dijiku made a move towards Manaj before Manaj took a shot on goal. If there was any interference with Manaj in this move, Manaj wouldn't have been able to take the shot and would have fallen before shooting.

In the second photo, Livakovic's move towards Manaj is visible, but this move was made after Manaj took the shot.

Fenerbahçe players may have disrupted Manaj's balance in both photos, but I don't believe these interventions prevented Manaj from taking the shot. The match referee used his discretion in favor of the penalty. I can't blame him for that. If Fenerbahçe had won a penalty in such a situation, I wouldn't have objected to it.

[MK-74]

Who wants a foreign referee? Fenerbahce
Djiku took the penalty, but the referee gave it to Livakovic.
Even Serhat Akın says that the penalty decision was correct.
I think the penalty decision was right, but do you think this is the most important issue?
Do you think Fenerbahçe's squad is managed correctly?
A quality squad, E quality coach.
The person we need to talk to here is İsmail Kartal.
I have never seen such an incompetent coach, they were eliminated from all 3 cups with the player changes he made.

İsmail Kartal: We do not think that the point difference has widened. We aim to win 5 out of 5 matches and become champions.
A man who says this manages Fenerbahçe.
Although he may have been right in his comment, because when Fenerbahçe went to Sivas, the point difference was 5, now it is 4.

Congratulations to our championship in advance.
Galatasaray is 99% champion, unless a miracle happens.

[Hirose UK]

Fenerbahce dropped 2 points with a draw in Sivasspor away from Sivasspor, leaving Fenerbahce behind in the race.Ismail Kartal is clearly not managing his team.Fenerbahce, which was eliminated from 3 cups in 15 days because of him, no longer has any goal in my opinion.I don't think the gap will be closed in the league because as long as the TFF is biased, it seems impossible for Galatasaray to lose points. We can argue a lot about the penalty that was awarded in the last minutes but I honestly don't think it was a penalty.Livakovic's foot may have touched it but the player started to fall without touching Livakovic.It's another thing that all the commentators think it wasn't a penalty.

Sivasspor performed quite well and were able to keep up with Fenerbahce game which dominated overall, they played with full competition to be able to beat each other but Sivasspor last goal in penalty made the result 2 - 2 draw.
This was Fenerbahce fault because they couldn't be careful in the final minutes of the match which gave Sivasspor the opportunity to disguise their position, it was really bad luck for Fenerbahce.
This should be victory for Fenerbahce and they can save full points to get closer to Galatasaray higher points tally.
Sivasspor itself is team that is not very competitive this season but in the match against Fenerbahce they had luck so they avoided defeat.

Fenerbahce chances are getting smaller and Galatasaray will be at the top of the standings in fairly comfortable conditions until the competition is over, they just need to be careful to maintain the gap from Fenerbahce.

[execijutiere]

For Fenerbahce, we can say that the league is slowly coming to an end. With this morale, it is doubtful that they can even win the next matches because there was a clear underperformance in the team. In the Sivasspor match, the sadness of being eliminated by Olympiacos was evident and you could see it clearly on the pitch. Fenerbahçe's next game in the league is a derby. Fenerbahce will play against Besiktas and they must win this game in any case.

[püsür]

Who wants a foreign referee? Fenerbahce
Djiku took the penalty, but the referee gave it to Livakovic.
Even Serhat Akın says that the penalty decision was correct.
I think the penalty decision was right, but do you think this is the most important issue?
Do you think Fenerbahçe's squad is managed correctly?
A quality squad, E quality coach.
The person we need to talk to here is İsmail Kartal.
I have never seen such an incompetent coach, they were eliminated from all 3 cups with the player changes he made.

İsmail Kartal: We do not think that the point difference has widened. We aim to win 5 out of 5 matches and become champions.
A man who says this manages Fenerbahçe.
Although he may have been right in his comment, because when Fenerbahçe went to Sivas, the point difference was 5, now it is 4.

Congratulations to our championship in advance.
Galatasaray is 99% champion, unless a miracle happens.

Fenerbahce might win the Besiktas game or even all of the remaining games but still I also think Galatasaray is 99% champions. There is no way they will lose the title after here. Although Besiktas is doing terribly this season, with the change of coaches and everything, we might still see a surprise in the derby. These derbies are always open to surprising scores. When there is a Fenerbahçe match, this Beşiktaş suddenly turns into something strange. For this reason, a very strange Beşiktaş win may also come. Nevertheless, I see no way that Fenerbahce is catching up with Galatasaray after this point. They already lose the title in the last weeks.

[wiss19]

I don't like talking about referees because some situations are gray areas. It's impossible for us to interpret gray areas neutrally. I don't think I can ever be neutral because I am a Fenerbahçe supporter, but I do have a comment on this situation.

In the first photo, it appears that Dijiku made a move towards Manaj before Manaj took a shot on goal. If there was any interference with Manaj in this move, Manaj wouldn't have been able to take the shot and would have fallen before shooting.

In the second photo, Livakovic's move towards Manaj is visible, but this move was made after Manaj took the shot.

Fenerbahçe players may have disrupted Manaj's balance in both photos, but I don't believe these interventions prevented Manaj from taking the shot. The match referee used his discretion in favor of the penalty. I can't blame him for that. If Fenerbahçe had won a penalty in such a situation, I wouldn't have objected to it.

While we are in important phase of the season with things are challenging and having decisions like these surely disrupt players and their fans as well even we are having this as controversial decision, but now things are completely out of the control for the Fenerbahçe for title race, and we are having Galatasaray as champions of the league for the second successive time and Fenerbahçe fans have to wait for some more time even this time we were expecting they could be achieved this after ten years, but their wait is going to be long due to many on and off the field issues which happen all around this club.

Next week we are going to have another derby against Besiktas which is going to be interesting, and Fenerbahçe players needs to be positive about this all after having things like this if they are able to keep things on better level then surely we can expect better results in coming season as well, and they can go for another challenging season which will give them better success.

[Salahmu]

Next week we are going to have another derby against Besiktas which is going to be interesting, and Fenerbahçe players needs to be positive about this all after having things like this if they are able to keep things on better level then surely we can expect better results in coming season as well, and they can go for another challenging season which will give them better success.

Indeed is going to be a strong match for the both teams because so long as this league is concerned Besiktas and Fenerbahçe is one of the bright club on the league and the both teams has been doing very well on the league table but however irrespective of how their both teams are doing well doesn't make them an equal performance so actually I believe that Fenerbahçe has more better chance of winning the match because them and Galatasaray are the most strongest team on this league currently.

However Besiktas may possibly give them some difficult time but Fenerbahçe will win them, perhaps is a match that Fenerbahçe will never take for granted because they still believe that they have chances of getting exact points as Galatasaray since they have a very close point, so they will do everything possible to win Besiktas and also it may be easy for them because they will be playing from their home and we know how strong they use to be whenever they play from their home.

[doomloop]

Fenerbahçe has a great squad. Dzeko, Tadic, Fred and Livakovic are players of above average quality. However, the title race in the league this season is very tough. We have only one defeat this season. Galatasaray also has only one defeat. The ranking between the two teams is determined by the number of draws this season. Sometimes I blame club president Ali Koç and manager İsmail Kartal, but I don't want to be too unfair to them. I'm sure everyone wants to do their best.

Truly Fenerbahçe has a very good and capable players that has the performance to win the league because they have been one of the best club on this league and because of there good performance every other clubs apart from Galatasaray use to be afraid of them because of there consistent wining and the kind of players they have, so perhaps I wouldn't underestimate them because of there inability to lead the league because from the beginning of the season they almost had the opportunity of wining the league because they leading on the table then but it was unfortunate for them that there little inconsistency lead to there failure of wining the league because in as much as they have a bit closer point with Galatasaray doesn't determine there possibility of beating Galatasaray in terms of point.

I also have to admit about this there is no doubt Fenerbahçe is one of the best club in Super League with their quality and depth in team is impressive, but still things are not favourable for them which is really miserable, and usually we have too many decisions against them which is also surprising for me but still they are doing good job and having second spot in league which is amazing stuff they need to bring new quality coach with surely things can take good change in coming season as now they are having some experience and good improvement into their games which is going to be helpful in next season.

From 33 games having 5 draws and one lost surely all is about their quality and consistency but with this all we also need to admit we need some serious changes in Super League as Turk Federation needs to be more neutral and fairer for all clubs which will surely increase healthy competition in the league for all clubs.

[Volgastallion]

What a week for Fenerbahce team, a complete disaster and they maybe destroy the whole year only in this week. Out from european competition like the COnference League and now with a draw which make a 4 points gap b etween them and Galatasaray in the league tournament.

And all made by penalties, out in pelanties against Olimpiacos, and now the last goal for Sivaspor was also a penaltie.

[redsun114]

Looking at twitter and how mad fans are, I am going to go out on a limb and say that betting on Demir spor this week could be possible. Why? Well if I understood anything from betting on Turkish "lig" as you guys say, it is that there is a balancing that goes on, maybe for more views or something I do not know.

This week Fenerbahce got a draw, and I believe that next week when Galatasaray plays Demir Spor, it is going to be something special, I am guessing that ref could butcher that game, just to make sure that Galatasaray is not getting too much ahead and keep the competition going. This is just an estimate, but I am going to bet something small, like maybe 10 or 20 bucks on it, just to see if I am right or not, would be very fun and profitable if I am right.

[SUPERSAIAN]

For Fenerbahce, we can say that the league is slowly coming to an end. With this morale, it is doubtful that they can even win the next matches because there was a clear underperformance in the team. In the Sivasspor match, the sadness of being eliminated by Olympiacos was evident and you could see it clearly on the pitch. Fenerbahçe's next game in the league is a derby. Fenerbahce will play against Besiktas and they must win this game in any case.

According to the Fenerbahçe coach, he explained that the draw in this match is not important, the only thing left is to win all the matches, I think this man also has a problem with mathematics. Anyway, it was more comforting for Galatasaray when Fenerbahçe stayed together against Sivasspor. We can say that Fenerbahçe lost because it seems very difficult for them to even win all the matches.

They will face strong opponents in the remaining matches. I do not think they can go without losing any points with this morale.

[Dzigie]

What a week for Fenerbahce team, a complete disaster and they maybe destroy the whole year only in this week. Out from european competition like the COnference League and now with a draw which make a 4 points gap b etween them and Galatasaray in the league tournament.

And all made by penalties, out in pelanties against Olimpiacos, and now the last goal for Sivaspor was also a penaltie.

We have to admit that Galatasaray have gained a very important advantage, but we can't say that everything is over. The predictions we make on paper can turn into different results on the pitch. Galatasaray will play a very important away match against Adana Demirspor after two days. Adana Demirspor are mid-table in the league and a comfortable team. They will not feel any pressure in this match and will play a relaxed game. I think this is an advantage for Adana Demirspor. In such matches the players find a more comfortable environment to showcase their talents and so they show better performances. Galatasaray may lose points against Adana Demirspor.