⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽

[Sunderland]

Are you confident that Manchester United will beat Newcastle next week? Newcastle is still battling to avoid losing games. Anything can happen in the game, but let's see how Manchester United performs against Arsenal today and whether they can play well against Newcastle.

Yes if Manutd is still wants to play in the Europe Conference League, they will do their best to get 3 points from that match.
Because if they are lose against Arsenal today, and only get a draw with Newcastle = they will finish as the top 8th in the league.

In this season, Newcastle away performance was not that good - from 17 away matches in the league they could only win 5 times, with 2 draws and lose 10 times.
It should be not that hard for Manutd to beat them at the Old Trafford.

[Pulsar77]

If Arsenal fails to get full points against Manchester United, it is legal for Manchester City to win 4 PL titles in a row.

Exactly, this means handing over the PL title easily to Manchester City. Even now Arsenal are in trouble because of that Aston Villa loss.    I'd really like to see Arsenal as the champions. The last title was 20 years ago, it's a huge break. If Arsenal weren't one of the top teams of the PL then I wouldn't have seen any problem in that.

But I believe this is a serious issue. Arsenal have a more different transfer policy than other top teams though. But Arteta has showed even with youngsters this can be achieved. 

I hope Arsenal win today. And I also hope Tottenham stop Manchester City next week. 

[Docnaster]

If Arsenal fails to get full points against Manchester United, it is legal for Manchester City to win 4 PL titles in a row.

Exactly, this means handing over the PL title easily to Manchester City. Even now Arsenal are in trouble because of that Aston Villa loss.    I'd really like to see Arsenal as the champions. The last title was 20 years ago, it's a huge break. If Arsenal weren't one of the top teams of the PL then I wouldn't have seen any problem in that.

But I believe this is a serious issue. Arsenal have a more different transfer policy than other top teams though. But Arteta has showed even with youngsters this can be achieved. 

I hope Arsenal win today. And I also hope Tottenham stop Manchester City next week. 

Mikel Arteta knows that the only result that'll keep his Arsenal team in a good position to win the English Premier League title this season is to get all three points in their game against Manchester United this afternoon any failure to do so will definitely cost him the league title as their biggest rivals are currently two points ahead of them with two more matches to play.
Manchester United is a very strong team with a lot of quality players that can easily win games on their for the team especially today that they're gonna be playing at home but I strongly believe that Arsenal will get the win today because of their superior record this season against Manchester United in terms of form and performances. The game will be played in Old Trafford and because of the long standing rivalry between the two clubs, Manchester United fans in the stadium will be in their loudest voices supporting their team but that I don't think is going to stop Arsenal players from putting in their best and getting the all important win

[Velvet78]

Maybe if they win and help the City reach for the trophy, maybe the City will reciprocate and let them win the FA Cup final round.

Mate, I would never expect Manchester City to play more complacently in the FA Cup finale honestly.    Guardiola is a very ambitious manager. Especially after getting eliminated from the Champions League like that, he is much more focused on the remaining tournaments. He would surely want to finish the season with two titles.

Otherwise I would really like to see Manchester United achieving something in this poor season. They are likely to stay out of any tournament places in the Premier League. In that case the FA Cup is the only way for achieving some success. But realistically, I dont expect this to happen.

[pawel7777]

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Luton was one of my fav teams this season thanks to some of their players like Barksley, Dougherty, etc. Sad to see them go.

As they say: "don't cry because it ended, smile because it happened". Luton making it to the Premier League was a success on its own. Pretty big achievement for a club that was playing in League Two only a few years ago.
They had some good games this season and hopefully gained a lot of experience that will help them get promoted again.

This season may be the worst season for promoted teams, because all of them are being back relegated to Championship Division. I don't remember the last time all the three promoted teams being relegated back straight away. (...)

Yup, good spot. And all the teams relegated from the EPL last season occupied top 4 places in the Championship, 2 of them will be back in the EPL, Southampton came a bit short. This shows there was (still is?) a big gap between those 2 divisions.

[Woodie]

This Manchester United team that has showed up today is playing a very impressive game such that Arsenal  has been put under pressure & limiting their attacking  chances, and if they played like this every weekend I don't think United would have been far back from the top four club's. Btw, if you ask me United look hungry to stop Arsenal from getting an easy 3 points that would push them closer to the EPL title but let's see how this goes...

Edit :

Arsenal found the back of the net, now we have a game on our hands...

[shinratensei_]

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Manchester United play at home tomorrow, and it won't be easy for Arsenal to win. Erik Ten Hag wants to play in the Europa League next season, and how Chelsea is playing this season, they have already picked up form, and if Manchester United loses to Arsenal tomorrow, it will be the end because I don't think they can top Chelsea in the league table anymore, and Manchester United will not have the opportunity to play in the Europa League with others, Newcastle are also doing well, and I believe Chelsea can finish sixth this season.

If Manutd lose to Arsenal it doesnt mean that Manutd chances to join the Europa competition is gone.
Maybe you dont know that the winner of the FA Cup will get 1 ticket to the Europa League, and if the winner of the FA Cup is confirmed to qualify for the Champions League, then top 5th and 6th in the League will compete in the Europa League.
And the top 7th in the league will compete in the Europa Conference League.



Chelsea still have to away to Brighton and Im not sure they can get 3 points from there.
And next week, there is a match Manutd vs Newcastle - so Manutd chances is not over yet even if they lose to Arsenal tomorrow.

Chelsea has a slim chance of qualifying for the Europa League next season because there is still newcastle that has the same points as chelsea. I'm not even being pessimistic about it, but we'll also be aware of the fact that if there are Newcastle there and this is the main competitor for chelsea at this moment to get europa league spot. I meant that even if Newcastle and Chelsea have the same number of points, Newcastle is more likely to qualify for the Europa League than Chelsea because newcastle has scored more compared to the chelsea. This is gonna help newcastle a lot. 
Newcastle will score more goals than Chelsea. It means the Blues must pray that both Newcastle and Tottenham lose all of their points at the same time. This will be extremely beneficial to the Blues' chances of qualifying for the Europa League this season.
The Blues must have won all of their remaining games. I don't think Brighton will be a problem for Chelsea. The blues were capable enough to destroy Newcastle, which was even stronger than Brighton.

Expect the race between the Blues and Newcastle to last until the final match day results. Totenham is likely to miss three points in the coming games. This will significantly reduce Chelsea's and Newcastle's chances of qualifying for the Europa League.
The conference league isn't so bad compared to getting nothing this season. Pochettino has a plan for that.

[Spaceman1000$]

This Manchester United team that has showed up today is playing a very impressive game such that Arsenal  has been put under pressure & limiting their attacking  chances, and if they played like this every weekend I don't think United would have been far back from the top four club's. Btw, if you ask me United look hungry to stop Arsenal from getting an easy 3 points that would push them closer to the EPL title but let's see how this goes...

Edit :

Arsenal found the back of the net, now we have a game on our hands...

I totally agree with you, Manchester United have been on the attacking side, putting arsenal under undue pressure, this is something I haven't seen in a while from the gunners . There is these Manchester United youngster called amad that has been dribbling incredibly from the right wing and creating little chances for united but yet they've not been able to get to the back of the net. However a lot of people believe that this is a home game and it will be ideal for united to at least get a draw. Arsenal are on the another hand a team that has known how to perfect their goal scoring pattern, they've so far maintained a 1-0 win for this first half in a game that looks as if they're struggling to get up on their feet.

[Farma]

Maybe if they win and help the City reach for the trophy, maybe the City will reciprocate and let them win the FA Cup final round.

Mate, I would never expect Manchester City to play more complacently in the FA Cup finale honestly.    Guardiola is a very ambitious manager. Especially after getting eliminated from the Champions League like that, he is much more focused on the remaining tournaments. He would surely want to finish the season with two titles.

Otherwise I would really like to see Manchester United achieving something in this poor season. They are likely to stay out of any tournament places in the Premier League. In that case the FA Cup is the only way for achieving some success. But realistically, I dont expect this to happen.

Manchester City is not an easy opponent for Man United this season, we can see that Manchester United in the League they are really having difficulties this season, actually my heart is very sad to see Manchester United at the moment, but this squad has many players who are injured, p. this makes it difficult for this team to win at the moment.

However, we have to look more deeply at this Final, especially as these two teams are very prestigious, anything can happen, Manchester United will also put in their efforts to make their supporters smile, it is not impossible that Manchester United can beat Man City at Wembley Stadium, and see for yourself that Manchester is red.

[Palakka]

This Manchester United team that has showed up today is playing a very impressive game such that Arsenal  has been put under pressure & limiting their attacking  chances, and if they played like this every weekend I don't think United would have been far back from the top four club's. Btw, if you ask me United look hungry to stop Arsenal from getting an easy 3 points that would push them closer to the EPL title but let's see how this goes...

Edit :

Arsenal found the back of the net, now we have a game on our hands...

If you look at Manchester United's performance in the game just now, I think Arsenal was lucky enough to score in the first half, Arsenal was indeed able to win 3 points in today's game but if you look at Manchester United's performance, of course they are better than Arsenal, before the game started, many of us here might think that in that game there will be a lot of goals because of Manchester United's poor performance this season,  But instead we see if Manchester United are able to show extraordinary play in the game after they were able to press Arsenal throughout the game, if we look at Manchester United's failure in today's game of course we know if the final solution is their problem.

Arsenal managed to get 3 points in today's match while continuing their positive trend to be able to continue to compete with Manchester City in winning the championship trophy, one more difficult game they have won and now only Everton are left as their opponents in the remaining matches of the season, on paper of course Arsenal will be able to get full points from everton later, but still they must be able to win big  and still hope Manchester City draw or lose in one rest match.

[boltz]

This Manchester United team that has showed up today is playing a very impressive game such that Arsenal  has been put under pressure & limiting their attacking  chances, and if they played like this every weekend I don't think United would have been far back from the top four club's. Btw, if you ask me United look hungry to stop Arsenal from getting an easy 3 points that would push them closer to the EPL title but let's see how this goes...

Edit :

Arsenal found the back of the net, now we have a game on our hands...

Well , you're right. United had their best game in the last 2 months I would say but it was still not enough to take 1 point or even score once against Arsenal and overall , the team who had more desire to win ended up as winners. Now for Arsenal the real title race has begun and every single mistake from City or from them will basically cost the title but hopefully the title race will be going on until last game where honestly I do expect Arsenal to be crowned as champions of EPL 23/24 season. 

[Pulsar77]

Great job by Arsenal! That performance definitely deserved the victory there. Manchester United played as usual. Their game was ineffective and it would have been a pity if they stole a point from Arsenal today.

Now Arsenal are once again ahead by 1 point. However there are only 2 days left for Manchester City to play their absent match vs Tottenham away. This is going to be the decider for the champion.

If Tottenham cause them a loss of points, this pretty much secures the PL title for Arsenal - score difference will still be important though in case of equal points. Otherwise it is over guys. No way Manchester City would lose points home vs West Ham after that. 

[Oluwa-btc]

This Manchester United team that has showed up today is playing a very impressive game such that Arsenal  has been put under pressure & limiting their attacking  chances, and if they played like this every weekend I don't think United would have been far back from the top four club's. Btw, if you ask me United look hungry to stop Arsenal from getting an easy 3 points that would push them closer to the EPL title but let's see how this goes...

Edit :

Arsenal found the back of the net, now we have a game on our hands...

They didn't put Arsenal under no pressure,. Arsenal only managed this game and played it with so much caution from the first half to the second half yet again another clean sheet and win for the gunners this evening.

I was impressed with Manchester United fans as they supported these players from the beginning to the end of the game. Sofyan Amrabat also had a great game, I hope to see him this confident and comfortable in the middle when Manchester United goes on to play that finals against Manchester City.

In between, I was happy for thr lads today. They did them best and those who want Erik Ten Hag would see him leaving if the club decides and it will be a win for him because Bayern Munich ate heavily chasing after him. Hungry but was precise and decisive during the game today.

I did make a prediction for Trossad to score in this game earlier today, yes?
I really know how to do this thing, I just forget alot to stake.

[Miles2006]

This Manchester United team that has showed up today is playing a very impressive game such that Arsenal  has been put under pressure & limiting their attacking  chances, and if they played like this every weekend I don't think United would have been far back from the top four club's. Btw, if you ask me United look hungry to stop Arsenal from getting an easy 3 points that would push them closer to the EPL title but let's see how this goes...

Edit :

Arsenal found the back of the net, now we have a game on our hands...

Well , you're right. United had their best game in the last 2 months I would say but it was still not enough to take 1 point or even score once against Arsenal and overall , the team who had more desire to win ended up as winners. Now for Arsenal the real title race has begun and every single mistake from City or from them will basically cost the title but hopefully the title race will be going on until last game where honestly I do expect Arsenal to be crowned as champions of EPL 23/24 season. 

I actually expected more from Arsenal no doubt, maybe cause Manchester United fooled throughout the season so I had no option looking down on Manchester United. Great performance from both team, Manchester United dominated excellent with countless chance and yet no goal is actually surprising. Arsenal at the other hand defended greatly making the match look tense and tough although Arsenal managed to secure 3 points against Manchester United and Everton left to face Arsenal this season. I’m rooting for Arsenal this season and I hope to see Arsenal win the title hopefully.

[Baki202]

This Manchester United team that has showed up today is playing a very impressive game such that Arsenal  has been put under pressure & limiting their attacking  chances, and if they played like this every weekend I don't think United would have been far back from the top four club's. Btw, if you ask me United look hungry to stop Arsenal from getting an easy 3 points that would push them closer to the EPL title but let's see how this goes...

Edit :

Arsenal found the back of the net, now we have a game on our hands...

Manchester United did a great job and arsenal was pressured and the only luck that arsenal had was the fact that they scored first and also early if not for that the game might end draw because they will find it difficult to score.  Even before the game I was sure that arsenal was going to win but there win is no use. Because when we play against Tottenham it’s a win for us. And if not that arsenal was not given much chance they would have beaten Manchester United the same way they defeated Chelsea. And why am not worried is because it’s only one point so In our next game we are adding point then we are going to be celebrated as champions.

[nelson4lov]

I see some Arsenal fans IRL speaking bitter and being salty about their team not getting a high GD in this game against man utd forgetting that the 3 points would be very pivotal to their title challenge if city loses points in their last 2 remaining games. I expected man utd to put up a fight but I would've been pleasantly surprised if Arsenal ended up losing more points to Man Utd even though it was a very hard task to go and do. It would be very bad if this arsenal team fails to win the PL title two years in a row despite coming super close.


 

[coinlocket$]

still a head to head fight between arsenal and manchester city, but the guardiola's team has one more game to play.

Anything can happen but most likely by now the title has been won once again by Pep's team.
We need to understand whether Guardiola will leave at the end of this season or at the end of next season.

[Docnaster]

I see some Arsenal fans IRL speaking bitter and being salty about their team not getting a high GD in this game against man utd forgetting that the 3 points would be very pivotal to their title challenge if city loses points in their last 2 remaining games. I expected man utd to put up a fight but I would've been pleasantly surprised if Arsenal ended up losing more points to Man Utd even though it was a very hard task to go and do. It would be very bad if this arsenal team fails to win the PL title two years in a row despite coming super close.


 

Talking about goal difference between Arsenal and Manchester City in their title race, the gunners still have a better goal difference ahead of Manchester City with 3 goals difference so if Manchester City should draw any of their past two league games, there's every possible that Arsenal will finish the season as English Premier League title winners.
The Arsenal fans that were furious because their club failed to score plenty goals against Arsenal simply do not know how difficult it is to play against Manchester United at Old Trafford. Mikel Arteta needed three points to remain in good position that might see his team win the league at the final match day of the season and he definitely got the all important three points so I think it's baseless and needless for Arsenal fans to be blaming the team for failing to win the game with high margin

[arimamib]

I see some Arsenal fans IRL speaking bitter and being salty about their team not getting a high GD in this game against man utd forgetting that the 3 points would be very pivotal to their title challenge if city loses points in their last 2 remaining games. I expected man utd to put up a fight but I would've been pleasantly surprised if Arsenal ended up losing more points to Man Utd even though it was a very hard task to go and do. It would be very bad if this arsenal team fails to win the PL title two years in a row despite coming super close.

Goals difference could be a deciding situation for the title race. It's normal to see fans expecting the best for their team. Manchester United played a good game against Arsenal, but it would still be a surprise if Manchester united was able to get a point in this game. One goal win is still a three points gain, but Arsenal really wasted some chances to have a better goals difference.

This is the last big six team Arsenal have to play against. It's understandable that Arsenal played with more carefulness, because Manchester United was the biggest threat for Arsenal to drop points. It's impressive for Arsenal to keep their fighting spirit in their effort to stay in the title race. They can't let any small chance of City dropping points go uncapitalize.    

[JeffBrad12]

I see some Arsenal fans IRL speaking bitter and being salty about their team not getting a high GD in this game against man utd forgetting that the 3 points would be very pivotal to their title challenge if city loses points in their last 2 remaining games. I expected man utd to put up a fight but I would've been pleasantly surprised if Arsenal ended up losing more points to Man Utd even though it was a very hard task to go and do. It would be very bad if this arsenal team fails to win the PL title two years in a row despite coming super close.

Three points are important, but they were correct that having a lot of GD is essential caused by we can't really sure if arsenal will lead the competition by having more points. I. If Manchester City wins convincingly against Tottenham Hotspur and i think that having same points may possible to happen for arsenal and city. Arsenal could still lose the title race because City will have a better GD or GF than Arsenal and it has concerned by the gunners fans. The worst-case scenario is that Arsenal lose the title race because they score fewer goals than Manchester City at the end of last matchday.
They are correct that winning the game by scoring a lot is essential in a highly competitive environment like this one. United did their best to prevent Arsenal from winning but Arteta changed his strategy in the second half in order to keep its win from united.

He puts a lot of players in front of the goalkeeper to maintain his team's lead in the scoring against Manchester United and arsenal was always deflected united's attack. If I were an Arsenal fan, I would hope that the team takes any chances such as winning the game or scoring a lot of goals in order to get a save zone when club is having same points to the city. it's not something wrong by being salty with the result.
This is extremely important for Arsenal because it will be instrumental in determining the club's chances of winning the trophy this season.

I can imagine how disappointed Arsenal fans will be if the club fails to win a trophy this season. Arsenal is not a huge club.