⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽

[barisbilgili]

It isn't an excuse for having an unsuccessful season. It is a reason for it.    Then what do you think bigger names than Erik ten Hag would be able to do in the same situation? Would they fight for the title anyway despite having a big number of injuries?

When it comes to your Manchester City example... You are missing a point here. There is an enormous gap between the squad qualities of Manchester City and Manchester United. Even when they didn't have De Bruyne, Guardiola didn't face big problems. Because he still had a squad full of stars to make up for the weaknesses.

But it isn't the same for the Red Devils. They already had to improve their squad and those injuries made things much worse. 

It cannot be denied that injuries were the main reason the Manchester United team slumped last season, but this cannot be prolonged and Ten Hag has the responsibility to overcome this because the Manchester United team has been completely entrusted to Ten Hag to build it, from the start. Ten Hag's arrival has pretty much fulfilled his desire to recruit players, but the team's performance is still far from expectations.

The Manchester United team has only been built for a few seasons by Ten Hag and it is very different from Manchester City, I don't think it can be compared and in the future I still believe that if Ten Hag continues to make improvements and cover up the mistakes that have occurred then it is very likely that the Manchester team will United will be perfect again or match Manchester City's level for the title competition.

[Helena Yu]

The Manchester United team has only been built for a few seasons by Ten Hag and it is very different from Manchester City, I don't think it can be compared and in the future I still believe that if Ten Hag continues to make improvements and cover up the mistakes that have occurred then it is very likely that the Manchester team will United will be perfect again or match Manchester City's level for the title competition.

But, Ten Hag only have a year to build Manchester United, I don't think he can. If Manchester United didn't qualify for Champions League in the next season, I'm 100% believe they will sack Ten Hag ASAP. And then, the problem can't be resolved since the team always change the team for every one or two years.

The best solution is to sign Pep Guardiola or Ancelotti, because if they failed to bring Manchester United glory, the fans will blame the players instead of the managers, so they can survive and build Manchester United for many seasons.

[bitgolden]

How Ten Hang miraculously escape from being sack as Manchester united head couch at the end of this season is enough motivation to make him more serious with his job and see how he can transform the team to top spot on the table in the coming season. Ten Hang really started well with United when he first arrived at old Trafford but things turn around along the way due to so many circumstances which include injuries as you mentioned and of course, his wrong decision too. Luckily, he manages to win them a trophy despite the challenges they faced. Anthony case is very unfortunate for united to acquire a player with such amount and can not deliver. My problem is not about how poorly he performs but how Ten Hang usually have faith in him despite not playing as expected.

I would say that he will be definitely more motivated to keep his job, and he will do his very best to make the team better, but the reality is that he is not great at player picking. Don't get me wrong, he is an ok tactician, even good, however when he is suggesting players to buy, or putting in players at some weird positions, or making subs at 70th minute that is not needed, basically all around this dude is wacky when it comes to picking players. One day, I am pretty sure that he may actually end up subbing out a goalkeeper and subbing in a striker. You know those very last minute stuff in games?

Well, I am sure he will give some striker gloves and shirt etc, and sub him as "striker", instead of telling the goalkeeper to go out on a corner kick at last minute, he would just put the striker in and take the goalkeeper out. That sounds like a possible thing, don't tell me that doesn't sound like what ETH won't do .

[TastyChillySauce00]

The Manchester United team has only been built for a few seasons by Ten Hag and it is very different from Manchester City, I don't think it can be compared and in the future I still believe that if Ten Hag continues to make improvements and cover up the mistakes that have occurred then it is very likely that the Manchester team will United will be perfect again or match Manchester City's level for the title competition.

But, Ten Hag only have a year to build Manchester United, I don't think he can. If Manchester United didn't qualify for Champions League in the next season, I'm 100% believe they will sack Ten Hag ASAP. And then, the problem can't be resolved since the team always change the team for every one or two years.

The best solution is to sign Pep Guardiola or Ancelotti, because if they failed to bring Manchester United glory, the fans will blame the players instead of the managers, so they can survive and build Manchester United for many seasons.

Why shall we feel concerned about Ten Hag's contract? United  can hand him a new contract. Ten Hag should prove he's worthy of managing United. Last season was bad for him because United had too many injured players, causing inconsistency. 

Are you kidding about naming Ancelotti or Pep as United's new coaches? Because they'll never go there. Pep has one year left on city and he doesn't want to extend it, and again, Ancellotti will ignore United's offer because he is on his lovely team now.

Ten Hag must be given a two-year contract extension to help him rebuild the club, and he is key to United winning two trophies in two seasons, which is amazing. 

[Luzin]

Why shall we feel concerned about Ten Hag's contract? United  can hand him a new contract. Ten Hag should prove he's worthy of managing United. Last season was bad for him because United had too many injured players, causing inconsistency. 

I read the news that Ten Hag will get a new contract until 2027. The contract is followed by an extension option with certain criteria. This means that next season Ten Hag must be able to make a big change. If not, I think there's no reason to keep him.

Another problem, I am waiting for news regarding the Man City case. There doesn't seem to be much news about that development. How is the indictment of 115 cases of their violations. Facts or just accusations?  Or Man City only pays fines? Actually, the FA must be open with this case.

[Adiljutt156]

It is difficult to finish in the top four, but United must have a good goal to keep them motivated. I believe the top four EPL in the upcoming season will be a reasonable ambition for United to achieve following the bad result recorded by united last season, and Ten Hag is still working on how to achieve that goal during the summer transfer season.

About Anthony, and I missed him when he did this.



As long as MU has Anthony,and they will always win at least one trophy in each season.  

So funny

People here call Anthony spin and win because of his ridiculous spinning skill amd whenever i hear the name i just burst into laughter. He is snow a laughing stock here in my area and it got worse when he only managed a single for an entire season.

It was a disappointing season for Manchester United but they were later compensated with a trophy and it is more than enough to serve as a motivation for the players to put in more effort next season. It is not impossible to make top 4 next season but Ten Hag needs to put in more work if they want to achieve that.

Did you say Manchester United was compensated with a trophy or they won it. Why are you talking down on the success of Manchester United. If they had lost, we would all bash them as well. But now they won, it has become a compensation. That's by the way.

Honestly, I have never known of Anthony's nick name "spin and win". It's funny LOL. That skill is very annoying when the team is not leading. So, he does the unnecessary skill when it is not needed. Manchester United might not make top 4 this season if they depend on players like Anthony to lead the way

Yeah you are right in as much as Manchester United did not performed well on this season premier League doesn't  mean that the trophy they won was just a compensation to them, actually I totally disagree with what the person said because we all watch the match and see how difficult it was for Manchester City and Manchester United and unlike every matches Manchester United has played on this season that was actually one of the match they put so much energy and determination and at the end victory was there's, however even Pep Guardiola was very upset on that match because he was so disappointed on his boys because what he had in mind was to win the premier League and also the FA Cup.

In the FA Cup, the match between Manchester City F.C.Football team and Manchester United F.C.
Football team. Both teams were looking in good form but we saw high competition in final round and Man United team won the match by 2-0 score.Garnacho was the goal kicker and he kicked very excellent and he did first goal of the match in the 30 minutes after starting the match . The crowd became excited and everyone hero was only one person who was Garnacho and he won the hearts of people. Mainoo did second goal for his team and he bent the match to their side. The team of Man United team played like a team and they won due to team work. Man United goalkeeper stopped many goals and he is best goalkeeper.

[Hanadawa]

The Manchester United team has only been built for a few seasons by Ten Hag and it is very different from Manchester City, I don't think it can be compared and in the future I still believe that if Ten Hag continues to make improvements and cover up the mistakes that have occurred then it is very likely that the Manchester team will United will be perfect again or match Manchester City's level for the title competition.

Player injuries have been a problem throughout the 2023/2024 season. Manchester United really had their worst season due to the team's declining performance and injuries to every player. Apart from that, United's main problem in the last few seasons has been their defense. I think they have one of the weakest defenses in the club's history. In my personal opinion I agree with the club management's decision to give Ten Hag the opportunity to build United next season. His success in providing the FA Cup and tickets to UEL has earned him the opportunity to coach United. Ten Hag will correct his mistakes and will be better next season.

[Baki202]

But, Ten Hag only have a year to build Manchester United, I don't think he can. If Manchester United didn't qualify for Champions League in the next season, I'm 100% believe they will sack Ten Hag ASAP. And then, the problem can't be resolved since the team always change the team for every one or two years.

The best solution is to sign Pep Guardiola or Ancelotti, because if they failed to bring Manchester United glory, the fans will blame the players instead of the managers, so they can survive and build Manchester United for many seasons.

The situation on Manchester United is different from that of Chelsea. Since Ten Hag might be getting pressure from the management also he would already be looking for ways to improve and see if there will be a way even to get another trophy in their possession because that is one of the reasons Chelsea sacked their coach they want trophies. and if its about qualifying for the champions league then their is still a lot of work for Ten Hag to do , if he wants to archive is goal of given Manchester united victory. and even if he does not qualify for the champions league what if they don't sack they might just want to give him another chance.

Any decision will be for the interest of the club because a situation were the cub is not performing well then the way forward is to bring solution to what ever problem it might be, why will they sigh pep when we are renewing our contracts with him because that dude is one of the best coaches have seen so smart and knows how to make use of experiences, who do you expect the fans to blame if not the players because they are the one performing on pitch the coach can only train but the players might decide not to work together or even create more challenges for the coach, their is nothing much to worry about.

[Oluwa-btc]

But, Ten Hag only have a year to build Manchester United, I don't think he can. If Manchester United didn't qualify for Champions League in the next season, I'm 100% believe they will sack Ten Hag ASAP. And then, the problem can't be resolved since the team always change the team for every one or two years.

The best solution is to sign Pep Guardiola or Ancelotti, because if they failed to bring Manchester United glory, the fans will blame the players instead of the managers, so they can survive and build Manchester United for many seasons.

Lol. You don't think so don't mean it won't happen. It's same way y'all said Manchester United cannot win the FA Cup Finals against Manchester City. ( Go check for Michael Owen's comments about this ) Y'all watch football blindly and judge with lots of bias lol. We will definitely see what happens next season.
As much as Manchester United players are keen to grow and win more trophies, then I don't have to focus on the bloody noise and rants online.

How can you say that? T's your opinion by the way. You're entitled to your opinion. You're just blabbing and you're repeatedly saying what you've said. Obviously spamming lol.

Honestly, you don't know ball. Pep Guardiola can never be Manchester United manager wvennifnyou give him all of the best deals in the world. Smh. The same goes to Carlo Ancellotti, he will never be a Manchester United manager in the nearest future. Most likely these names mentioned would be handling a country side in the next couple of seasons ahead.

[piebeyb]

Ten Hag must be given a two-year contract extension to help him rebuild the club, and he is key to United winning two trophies in two seasons, which is amazing. 

I am not a loyal supporter of Manchester United but I just see that Manchester United has not developed in the last few seasons because last season they actually experienced a lot of defeats compared to the previous season, in the EPL they have not studied and improved themselves to be better, even Ten Hag bought real players. less productive and not very good in the main squad, but I don't want to judge their shortcomings, even though they managed to get the FA trophy, it's not something to be proud of, but maybe for loyal supporters it's something to be proud of too.

Manchester United should have a better coach than Ten Hag but their management kept him to give him another chance, actually I'm not sure he will fix everything well, we will see his first debut in the new season whether Manchester United will experience defeat or victory, I'm sure they will again reach an important ranking in the top four but will be in the top 10, Ten Hag has to prove that he can fix everything so as not to disappoint everyone and even this team is always the subject of ridicule on social media, lol

[mamesso]

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But, Ten Hag only have a year to build Manchester United, I don't think he can. If Manchester United didn't qualify for Champions League in the next season, I'm 100% believe they will sack Ten Hag ASAP. And then, the problem can't be resolved since the team always change the team for every one or two years.

The best solution is to sign Pep Guardiola or Ancelotti, because if they failed to bring Manchester United glory, the fans will blame the players instead of the managers, so they can survive and build Manchester United for many seasons.

This is the second chance that Manchester United management has given Ten Hag. He only has one season to make Manchester United management satisfied with his performance, but if he fails, you can guess what will happen to him. Ten Hag will have difficulty making Manchester United compete with Manchester City in the title race, at least he has to ensure Manchester United can finish in the top four.
Qualifying for the Champions League is enough to make Manchester United management satisfied with its performance, but to reach this ranking requires a team that is able to perform consistently throughout the season. Several top coaches are currently unemployed, Manchester United must build communication more quickly to reach a verbal agreement. Top coaches will help Manchester United reach their best level, they must follow in Manchester City footsteps when they brought in Guardiola.

[Palakka]

Player injuries have been a problem throughout the 2023/2024 season. Manchester United really had their worst season due to the team's declining performance and injuries to every player. Apart from that, United's main problem in the last few seasons has been their defense. I think they have one of the weakest defenses in the club's history. In my personal opinion I agree with the club management's decision to give Ten Hag the opportunity to build United next season. His success in providing the FA Cup and tickets to UEL has earned him the opportunity to coach United. Ten Hag will correct his mistakes and will be better next season.

Manchester United In the last few seasons have experienced a significant decline in form but this season has been the worst season for them in the last 10 seasons, Manchester United current performance is certainly beyond expectations after they have spent a lot of money in the last two seasons, indeed we cannot deny that player injuries are one of the reasons for Ten Hag to justify after all the bad achievements he has achieved this season, In my opinion, Ten Hag is one of the coaches who never wants to admit his mistakes and also his inability to make Manchester United improve so far.

Often we hear the reason from ten hag who often blames his squad for not being able to win, but quite proud of his ability if Manchester United wins, I think player injuries are indeed a bad factor that makes Manchester United weak this season, but shouldn't ten hag evaluate all his training methods so far that make players vulnerable to injury?
In addition to player injuries, ten hag ineffective strategy in the match is one of the biggest reasons for Manchester United failure to win, keeping ten hag will certainly probably be the biggest gamble made by Manchester United at the moment.

[jaberwock]

Talking about players outside the English Premier League who can perform well but fail in this league, it cannot be denied, apart from the names you have mentioned. Currently, some players have not been able to perform brilliantly even though they were bought at a fairly high price and that is because of their appearance so brilliant at their previous club that their current club believed they could perform well and contribute as expected but apparently failed, there is Mudryk at Chelsea and also Darwin Nunez at Liverpool.

Mudryk was bought by Chelsea at a high price from Shakhtar Donetsk, apart from the fact that this club was also going through bad times, which made Mudryk look even worse, but also when playing Mudryk doesn't appear worth the price to bring him to this club.
Nunez may still be better but he was still not Klopp's first choice in the previous two seasons. Liverpool were just luckier than Chelsea because Nunez had progressed in his second season.

It seems like the clubs in the English league value the players they are targeting outside this league too highly, that's why when they don't perform well it will make the player look bad because the price will described the expectations for the player.

This is why I was always favouring getting inside. Doesn't mean that you should get all English players, or not even British. I think it is quite clear that we are talking about a situation that is a little different, like just get players who played at premier league. Like for example, I am sure Kane was untouchable for a long time, but if I could, I would have bought him when he was younger if I was City, they had the money, and could have done so well, well they did but still, you get what I mean.

If any team with money wants to do better, like Chelsea for example, they could just get players in premier league that has done well, if they do that then they are going to have less shock and the result should be fine.

[Litzki1990]

The Manchester United team has only been built for a few seasons by Ten Hag and it is very different from Manchester City, I don't think it can be compared and in the future I still believe that if Ten Hag continues to make improvements and cover up the mistakes that have occurred then it is very likely that the Manchester team will United will be perfect again or match Manchester City's level for the title competition.

But, Ten Hag only have a year to build Manchester United, I don't think he can. If Manchester United didn't qualify for Champions League in the next season, I'm 100% believe they will sack Ten Hag ASAP. And then, the problem can't be resolved since the team always change the team for every one or two years.

The best solution is to sign Pep Guardiola or Ancelotti, because if they failed to bring Manchester United glory, the fans will blame the players instead of the managers, so they can survive and build Manchester United for many seasons.

This is ten Haag's last season for Manchester United if he doesn't prove himself well. This manager has been in charge of Manchester United for a long time but he has not been able to show any significant changes for the team so far, yet Manchester United has trusted this manager for one more season. In the next season, if the team cannot be in the position of 1 to 5 under this manager, then this manager will definitely lose his job. I think he was given enough time and he didn't prove himself even in that enough time so it is very likely that he will fail to prove himself in the next season unless there is a change in his plans.

[Helena Yu]

Lol. You don't think so don't mean it won't happen. It's same way y'all said Manchester United cannot win the FA Cup Finals against Manchester City. ( Go check for Michael Owen's comments about this ) Y'all watch football blindly and judge with lots of bias lol. We will definitely see what happens next season.
As much as Manchester United players are keen to grow and win more trophies, then I don't have to focus on the bloody noise and rants online.

How can you say that? T's your opinion by the way. You're entitled to your opinion. You're just blabbing and you're repeatedly saying what you've said. Obviously spamming lol.

Honestly, you don't know ball. Pep Guardiola can never be Manchester United manager wvennifnyou give him all of the best deals in the world. Smh. The same goes to Carlo Ancellotti, he will never be a Manchester United manager in the nearest future. Most likely these names mentioned would be handling a country side in the next couple of seasons ahead.

I don't see anything wrong for people who say Manchester United will not win the FA Cup, because anyone can see how poor they're and how good are Manchester City in Premier League.

FA Cup is just a short competition, luck may happen, that's why Manchester United won the FA Cup.

Even it's impossible for Pep or Ancelotti will move to Manchester United, my point is correct that fans will not forcing to sack Pep or Ancelotti if they were become Manchester United's manager.

[Barikui1]

The Manchester United team has only been built for a few seasons by Ten Hag and it is very different from Manchester City, I don't think it can be compared and in the future I still believe that if Ten Hag continues to make improvements and cover up the mistakes that have occurred then it is very likely that the Manchester team will United will be perfect again or match Manchester City's level for the title competition.

But, Ten Hag only have a year to build Manchester United, I don't think he can. If Manchester United didn't qualify for Champions League in the next season, I'm 100% believe they will sack Ten Hag ASAP. And then, the problem can't be resolved since the team always change the team for every one or two years.

The best solution is to sign Pep Guardiola or Ancelotti, because if they failed to bring Manchester United glory, the fans will blame the players instead of the managers, so they can survive and build Manchester United for many seasons.

This is ten Haag's last season for Manchester United if he doesn't prove himself well. This manager has been in charge of Manchester United for a long time but he has not been able to show any significant changes for the team so far, yet Manchester United has trusted this manager for one more season. In the next season, if the team cannot be in the position of 1 to 5 under this manager, then this manager will definitely lose his job. I think he was given enough time and he didn't prove himself even in that enough time so it is very likely that he will fail to prove himself in the next season unless there is a change in his plans.

Yes it's actually true that this might be Eric ten hang last season as the manager of Manchester united if they doesn't improve next season, but sacking him now,  next season ending or during the cause of the season wouldn't change anything if the major cause of the problem isn't solve, their has been no major improvement from Manchester united since sir Alex Ferguson left the club.

Let's look at the type of top quality Manager's that has managed Manchester united since  sir Alex Ferguson left the club till date, jose Mourinho, Luis van gaal and ole gunnar solskjaer, I believe that those names I made mentioned did pretty well, and they would have done more better, if the working environment of Manchester united was very much conducive.

Luis van gaal even said it that the hierarchy of Manchester united pays less attention to what's going on on the pitch, and focus more on commercial activities, he said that Manchester united is a commercial club, so till that changes, regardless of who is in charge, Manchester united will keep on struggling just as this immediate past season.

[Velvet78]

The best solution is to sign Pep Guardiola or Ancelotti, because if they failed to bring Manchester United glory, the fans will blame the players instead of the managers, so they can survive and build Manchester United for many seasons.

Ancelotti would never want to sign for Manchester United or any other team from now on. Unless Real Madrid sacks him of course which doesn't seem likely to me. Because he has already stated that he wants to retire at Real Madrid. 

Here is the source: https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1795486396427178049

When it comes to Guardiola, we don't know when he will leave Manchester City for now. He has closed the door for Barcelona by a recent statement he made but maybe he might be keen on working with another big team. Even if Manchester United targets him to sign one day, they had better be prepared to build the whole squad according to his system. 

Coming back to ten Hag, this might be his last season depending on team performance. I would like him to be successful though as I don't think he is a bad manager actually.

[samuraijin]

The best solution is to sign Pep Guardiola or Ancelotti, because if they failed to bring Manchester United glory, the fans will blame the players instead of the managers, so they can survive and build Manchester United for many seasons.

Whether Manchester United will be able to bring in either of these two people with the money we don't know how much money the Red Devils have at the moment, however it will definitely take a long time to develop players, even if one of the top coaches is brought in by the Red Devils then there is a big possibility  The Old Trafford public will wait the next two years so that the desired game can come true, but if it is far from expectations then of course it will be a waste of money.

[Xcode7]

Ancelotti would never want to sign for Manchester United or any other team from now on. Unless Real Madrid sacks him of course which doesn't seem likely to me. Because he has already stated that he wants to retire at Real Madrid. 

Here is the source: https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1795486396427178049

When it comes to Guardiola, we don't know when he will leave Manchester City for now. He has closed the door for Barcelona by a recent statement he made but maybe he might be keen on working with another big team. Even if Manchester United targets him to sign one day, they had better be prepared to build the whole squad according to his system. 

Coming back to ten Hag, this might be his last season depending on team performance. I would like him to be successful though as I don't think he is a bad manager actually.

Ancelotti has given his best for Real Madrid and he has built this team with a fairly solid framework for the long term so I also think that he will not be likely to be fired from Real Madrid in the near future.

Like before at Barcelo, Guardiola would leave when he had everything to get a new challenge at another team, so it is possible that that will also happen now and there are even rumors circulating about it now.
We still don't know whether to go to Manchester United, but I'm sure that soon Guardiola will leave Manchester City.

If Ten Hag is successful, this will not be his last season, Man United management will definitely keep him if he is successful, but if not, it is not impossible that he will leave midway.

[Hanadawa]

Often we hear the reason from ten hag who often blames his squad for not being able to win, but quite proud of his ability if Manchester United wins, I think player injuries are indeed a bad factor that makes Manchester United weak this season, but shouldn't ten hag evaluate all his training methods so far that make players vulnerable to injury?
In addition to player injuries, ten hag ineffective strategy in the match is one of the biggest reasons for Manchester United failure to win, keeping ten hag will certainly probably be the biggest gamble made by Manchester United at the moment.

Injuries have been the biggest reason why Manchester United have played poorly this season. Yes, of course Ten Hag must be responsible for United's poor performance because he is the head coach. However, I think the club management has certain considerations that will make them keep Ten Hag next season. Some of this is due to injuries and success in winning the FA match. As far as I remember, Ten Hag once said that Ten Hag played with the full squad in the final and he said that was how Manchester United should be. Whether Ten Hag is worth keeping or not, we'll see how United performs next season.