⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽

[pawel7777]

It's a good time for a quick analysis of the remaining games of two teams still in the race for the title, Arsenal and Man City. Yes, I wrote Liverpool off already despite them still having mathematical chances. It's not going to happen for the Reds this season.

Arsenal PPGD* +0.24, 3 games left:
- Bournemouth PPGD +0.26 (currently 10th), Home
- Man United PPGD +0.35 (currently 6th), Away
- Everton PPGD +0.27 (currently 15th), Home

Man City PPGD +0.17, 4 games left:
- Wolves PPGD +0.38 (currently 11th), Away
- Fulham PPGD +0.79 (currently 13th), Away
- Tottenham PPGD +0.62 (currently 5th), Away
- West Ham PPGD +0.09 (currently 8th), Home

* PPGD: Points Per Game Difference. The difference between average points scored at home and the average points scored in away games. The higher the PPGD with a +, the better the team's performance at home as compared to away games. The PPGD of zero would mean the team is performing equally at home and away.
Source: https://www.soccerstats.com/homeaway.asp?league=england

Both, Arsenal and the City, are performing only slightly better at home. Arsenal has only one away game to play against Man United, while Man City has 3 away matches, 2 of them against teams that performed notably better at home (Fulham and Tottenham).
Conclusion: still anyone's game and way too soon for the City fans to be popping champagnes. The game against Tottenham is potentially the toughest one. They can't really allow themselves to draw any of those 4 matches as Arsenal has a goal difference advantage of 7 over Man City, meaning they would snatch the title.

[Luzin]

Liverpool are losing power, Man City and Arsenal are working hard to win every game. Meanwhile, Sheffield United has been confirmed to be relegated. The top ranking is very exciting, but Liverpool seems to have a problem. I saw Moh Salah arguing or arguing with Kloop when he was about to come on as a substitute against West Ham. Looking at the opportunity, Liverpool still have a chance, but it seems to look very heavy. Only Man City has the best chance because Man City has 1 game less.

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The only team that might be able to stop City right now, enough to give Arsenal a chance is Tottenham. Arsenal won today against Tottenham so I'm definitely sure that Tottenham might have the biggest upset lining up for City and I'd be there if it happens no matter what.

For the Golden boot, until the last game, I'm going to say that its still in the wild. Players like Watkins and Palmer can easily get a hattrick one of these days and surpass him.

Manchester City have an easy game left this season to win the Premier League trophy, maybe many of us here think Tottenham is the most difficult opponent and may be able to stop Manchester City journey this season in winning the title, but instead I think Tottenham will be the easiest opponent for Manchester City compared to other teams, maybe it's a little strange when I say it because Tottenham are currently one of the strongest teams in the Premier League, but I think the Tottenham factor is Arsenal eternal rival is a strong reason if Manchester City will easily beat Tottenham.

It's simple, of course no team in any league really wants to see their eternal rivals to be champhionship, as well as Tottenham, of course they don't want to see Arsenal can end the season with a championship trophy because it will be a wound for Tottenham fans later, so in my opinion Tottenham will indeed play all out in the game but to win of course it is difficult for us to see because indeed I am quite sure if Tottenham will let Manchester City won to thwart Arsenal chances of champhioship.

[Hewlet]

Liverpool are losing power, Man City and Arsenal are working hard to win every game. Meanwhile, Sheffield United has been confirmed to be relegated. The top ranking is very exciting, but Liverpool seems to have a problem. I saw Moh Salah arguing or arguing with Kloop when he was about to come on as a substitute against West Ham. Looking at the opportunity, Liverpool still have a chance, but it seems to look very heavy. Only Man City has the best chance because Man City has 1 game less.

once you start having issues with your key players at this critical moment when you need good point the most, it goes to show you're not even ready to end in that third position they are currently occupying. What played out between Mo Salah and kloop goes a long way to show what has been happening behind the scene from the training ground and no doubt, Mo Salah hasn't been in his best form of recent but i think in that kind of game, bringing him into the game that late might have been the cause the Salah's reaction.

As for the race at the top two position, it's getting really interesting everyday going forward and as it stands, arsenal is certainly putting in the effort to remain on the winning ways with an impressive goal difference it's getting all heated up at the top. They should just hope that city looses of one the games just so they can stand strong at the top spot of the premier League table cause anything that makes them loose in a game or draw in one of there next encounter, the title is gradually shifting from white hands into the city side.

[X-ray]

Liverpool are losing power, Man City and Arsenal are working hard to win every game. Meanwhile, Sheffield United has been confirmed to be relegated. The top ranking is very exciting, but Liverpool seems to have a problem.

SHU will return to the campionship but it'll not go there alone since some clubs will also compete to leave from the relegation zone. More clubs will be relegated soon, and three clubs (Luton, Forest, and Burnley) have the opportunity to leave the relegation zone but i think that if burnley or luton have higher chance to leave from the relegation zone soon. There will be one winner among these clubs who will remain in the EPL next season. It is extremely difficult to predict which club will return to the Championship Division considering they are all facing difficult opponents which are making them struggle to leave from the relegation zone.
Burnley's performance has been quite good but that's not enough, the club must try to ensure that it can get three points in order to keep the momentum. Burnley will not benefit greatly if they only get one point in every game and it will also reduce its chance to qualify for thje . The club needs three points to defend its position in the Premier League next year.

It would be a shame if Burnley missed a golden opportunity to defend their EPL spot right now caused by it's having a chance to make it happen as long as club will always competence to get three poitns. These three teams continue to compete fiercely in order to achieve their goals.

I saw Moh Salah arguing or arguing with Kloop when he was about to come on as a substitute against West Ham. Looking at the opportunity, Liverpool still have a chance, but it seems to look very heavy. Only Man City has the best chance because Man City has 1 game less.

It's a common thing when you are as the most influencial player in the club being sent off by your coach without a strong reason. This is what moh salah feel from arguing klopp why must he send him off the game too early.
It's a common thing in the competition like this.

[topbitcoin]

Liverpool are losing power, Man City and Arsenal are working hard to win every game. Meanwhile, Sheffield United has been confirmed to be relegated. The top ranking is very exciting, but Liverpool seems to have a problem. I saw Moh Salah arguing or arguing with Kloop when he was about to come on as a substitute against West Ham. Looking at the opportunity, Liverpool still have a chance, but it seems to look very heavy. Only Man City has the best chance because Man City has 1 game less.

Liverpool's momentum was destroyed from the start when they lost to Atalanta in the Europa League and unfortunately their performance in the Europa League was carried over to the EPL which made the situation very complicated for Liverpool which made them have to lose 2 trophies which they could still get in the competition but now they are mentally down and have lost hope of getting a competition.

Currently only Arsenal and Manchester City can make an interesting competition for the EPL and I hope this momentum continues to run until the end because it would be a shame if in the last 3 weeks one of the teams from Arsenal or Manchester City failed in several matches that made them also lose momentum again just like Liverpool felt this season.

[tusandii]

Arsenal delivered big time. Tottenham was the highest-placed team in the table that they still had to play this season, but they did not disappoint. Looking at the score itself could create a picture that it was a close game, but it really wasn't. The Gunners took a comfy, early 3-0 lead and they let Tottenham take control of the game. Arsenal's defence got overly relaxed and just gave those two goals away (stupid mistake by the goalkeeper and unnecessary penalty).
But Man City is not going to give the title away, they're currently leading 1-0 against Notm Forrest at halftime.

The result of Arsenal's game against Tottenham Hotspur today further proves that the Gunners are serious with their quest to win the English Premier League this season. After facing a big English Premier League club like Chelsea last week, I wasn't expecting Arsenal to still dominate their game at Tottenham Hotspur this afternoon but Mikel Arteta's men were fully ready to win the game and grab all three points from the game. I love the way the team is united to achieve their purpose and if they can remain focused like they are currently, there's every chance that they might ebd their 20 years wait to win the English Premier League title.

In the other important game of the day involving the Manchester City, Pep Guardiola's men dispatched their hosts to claim all three points in that game at Nottingham Forest. The last match weeks of the English Premier League will be very interesting I think

I really hope Arsenal will be champions of EPL this year because this team deserve it for sure! Last year they stumbled on the last games but that was their first chance in a decade to win Premier League and I can understand that some players gave up on pressure but this year , the story is totally different with Arsenal and by they way they currently play , I think they will triumph and City will stumble in the last game.  ( I remember when United lost title on last game and last minute against City so I think this year the karma will hit City back ).

Even though I previously said that Arsenal still has a chance to win the Premier League title, that doesn't mean it's an easy task for Arteta.
If Arsenal can get consistent wins from the remaining 3 matches, that means Arsenal will have 89 points.
Meanwhile, if Manchester City is consistent, they can get 3 points in each match from the remaining 4 matches. Manchester City will get 91 points.
This is just an overall calculation of both clubs getting wins until the end of the season, but the problem here is we have to see whether these two clubs will get tough opponents and I can see from the match schedule for these two clubs that Manchester City doesn't have strong opponents.
Meanwhile, Arsenal still has 1 tough match. Beating Manchester United will be a slightly difficult task and in that match Arsenal will have to compete at Manchester United's home ground.

Expecting Manchester City to lose 1 game with a losing result for me is very impossible and in my opinion this season will only end like last season if Arsenal will fail to win the title again.
I'm not doubting Arsenal but I'm just talking about the obvious fact of the rest of the game it's pretty clear that Manchester city still have 4 games left.

[Palakka]

Liverpool's momentum was destroyed from the start when they lost to Atalanta in the Europa League and unfortunately their performance in the Europa League was carried over to the EPL which made the situation very complicated for Liverpool which made them have to lose 2 trophies which they could still get in the competition but now they are mentally down and have lost hope of getting a competition.

Currently only Arsenal and Manchester City can make an interesting competition for the EPL and I hope this momentum continues to run until the end because it would be a shame if in the last 3 weeks one of the teams from Arsenal or Manchester City failed in several matches that made them also lose momentum again just like Liverpool felt this season.

What you said is true, the defeat to Atlanta seemed to be a snowball that made Liverpool continue to find it difficult to win until now, indeed Liverpool had risen against Fulham but after that we can see how easily the opposing team destroyed Liverpool's game in the remaining matches of the season, and even only against Everton which is a team that is down at this time Liverpool must lose miserably,  The draw from Westham was certainly the starting point of Liverpool's exit as title contenders this season and even with 3 games left at their  it would be impossible to thwart the chances of Arsenal and Manchester City.

The competition to determine the English league title this season seems to be going until the last match, because so far the two teams still have a remaining match that is quite decisive, indeed for now Arsenal is one point ahead of Manchester City but 1 postponed match owned by Manchester City certainly makes them closer to be championship,  But even so, of course all possibilities can happen and certainly hope for Arsenal still remains although it is unlikely to see Manchester City lose.

[arimamib]

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Liverpool's momentum was destroyed from the start when they lost to Atalanta in the Europa League and unfortunately their performance in the Europa League was carried over to the EPL which made the situation very complicated for Liverpool which made them have to lose 2 trophies which they could still get in the competition but now they are mentally down and have lost hope of getting a competition.

Currently only Arsenal and Manchester City can make an interesting competition for the EPL and I hope this momentum continues to run until the end because it would be a shame if in the last 3 weeks one of the teams from Arsenal or Manchester City failed in several matches that made them also lose momentum again just like Liverpool felt this season.

The sign of the declining form of Liverpool can actually be seen in the match against Manchester United when the result was draw. They were unable to build significant attacks and failed to finish few chances they got. Their defense has been vulnerable since the beginning of the season, It's noticeable by the fact they conceded first in so many games, but the attacks used to make up for it by scoring more goals.

With only 3 remaining games left, practically the battle for the title race remains for Arsenal and Manchester City. I believe this race will continue till the last minutes of the last game with Manchester City having an advantageous position. Anyone making mistake at this stage will lose not only momentum, but also the title.  

[ILuckyGuyI]

Liverpool are losing power, Man City and Arsenal are working hard to win every game. Meanwhile, Sheffield United has been confirmed to be relegated. The top ranking is very exciting, but Liverpool seems to have a problem. I saw Moh Salah arguing or arguing with Kloop when he was about to come on as a substitute against West Ham. Looking at the opportunity, Liverpool still have a chance, but it seems to look very heavy. Only Man City has the best chance because Man City has 1 game less.

Klopp's players are really lost. They can't find their way and this is about to cost them the PL championship.    Honestly, I had bigger expectations than them in comparison to Arsenal.

I thought Arsenal would mess up in the final moments instead. However they looked stronger. I don't know why Klopp can't motivate his players in the same way with Arteta. This is his farewell season and the season has finished for him already. What a sad ending... It looks like Klopp will rest for a season then I wonder where we will see him.    Maybe back in the Bundesliga or another Premier League team journey.

[el kaka22]

Looks like it is actually "Manchester City may not lose another game" since their last tie, and people might be right about that. They have FA cup finals that they will play so a single game but aside from that the only thing they care about is the league and they are doing quite alright about that, and I feel like we are going to end up with a good result there.

I feel like the best thing to do in this case would be just making sure that we are dealing with a greater return, so it is a big deal without a doubt. I think the best thing to do in this case would be just letting "they will win" bets on both Arsenal and City as well while there could be a loss in one of them I think it is quite possible that both teams will just end the season with just wins instead.

[Nheer]

Liverpool are losing power, Man City and Arsenal are working hard to win every game. Meanwhile, Sheffield United has been confirmed to be relegated. The top ranking is very exciting, but Liverpool seems to have a problem. I saw Moh Salah arguing or arguing with Kloop when he was about to come on as a substitute against West Ham. Looking at the opportunity, Liverpool still have a chance, but it seems to look very heavy. Only Man City has the best chance because Man City has 1 game less.

Liverpool have already lost the race in my opinion because a team that wants the title so badly wouldn’t lose guard at a very crucial moment after they have managed to keep maintain a good performance from the beginning of the season and disappointed their fans at the end, the way they are playing i also think they have a problem.

Manchester City and Arsenal are the two teams battling hard to win the league and so far both teams are performing well and right now it is very difficult to predict which team will lift the trophy but Manchester City have the best chance to go ahead at the moment because they have an outstanding match to play.

[Baki202]

Liverpool are losing power, Man City and Arsenal are working hard to win every game. Meanwhile, Sheffield United has been confirmed to be relegated. The top ranking is very exciting, but Liverpool seems to have a problem. I saw Moh Salah arguing or arguing with Kloop when he was about to come on as a substitute against West Ham. Looking at the opportunity, Liverpool still have a chance, but it seems to look very heavy. Only Man City has the best chance because Man City has 1 game less.

Liverpool is already falling behind and they are getting more discouraged from competing in the Premier League. I am surprised at the way Arsenal was able to keep up with playing Tottenham, and it was like an escape from the net of Tottenham. If Arsenal had lost against them, we would have climbed the table, and not bad, they are leading us by one point, and that is something we can cover for, and if not, Arsenal lacks a lot of qualities, would you say?  and I know Manchester city is fighting seriously, and I know how much effort is going to be paid.  Clubs like Sheffield are actually meant to be respected because they always concede goals. and even with Salah, Liverpool is still finding it difficult to maintain there balance in the Premier League. and Arsenal will not be able to maintain that position, very soon we are going to the top.  

[Amphenomenon]

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Arsenal lacks a lot of qualities, would you say?  

I don't think Arsenal lack alot of qualities players rather they are just simply inconsistent and their recent form in the EPL is a living proof, I know many including me did write them off as league contenders earlier this year because of their form but now they were able to bounce back and also the only league contenders against Manchester city

and I know Manchester city is fighting seriously, and I know how much effort is going to be paid.  Clubs like Sheffield are actually meant to be respected because they always concede goals. and even with Salah, Liverpool is still finding it difficult to maintain there balance in the Premier League. and Arsenal will not be able to maintain that position, very soon we are going to the top.  

Actually I think it's obvious Liverpool is out already, now it's just a two horse race and I will not disrupt the fact that Gunners may win the league tittle after over a decade but just like I do say recently, Man city more likely will win the league since they are usually consistent during the season ending rather than the other league contenders

[nelson4lov]

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Manchester City have an easy game left this season to win the Premier League trophy, maybe many of us here think Tottenham is the most difficult opponent and may be able to stop Manchester City journey this season in winning the title, but instead I think Tottenham will be the easiest opponent for Manchester City compared to other teams, maybe it's a little strange when I say it because Tottenham are currently one of the strongest teams in the Premier League, but I think the Tottenham factor is Arsenal eternal rival is a strong reason if Manchester City will easily beat Tottenham.

It's simple, of course no team in any league really wants to see their eternal rivals to be champhionship, as well as Tottenham, of course they don't want to see Arsenal can end the season with a championship trophy because it will be a wound for Tottenham fans later, so in my opinion Tottenham will indeed play all out in the game but to win of course it is difficult for us to see because indeed I am quite sure if Tottenham will let Manchester City won to thwart Arsenal chances of champhioship.

You've a valid POV but I won't write off that game completely with City as the outright winner so I'll keep my expectations very low. I expect Tottenham to put up a strong fight against City except football is no longer what it is and they choose not put up a competitive game. Arsenal won Tottenham yesterday, Ange and his men should be aiming to seal their UCL spot rather than try to gift City the points they need to win the league. It makes zero sense to me btw.

Man City PPGD +0.17, 4 games left:
- Wolves PPGD +0.38 (currently 11th), Away
- Fulham PPGD +0.79 (currently 13th), Away
- Tottenham PPGD +0.62 (currently 5th), Away
- West Ham PPGD +0.09 (currently 8th), Home[/b]

Damn. Except Tottenham does something about City, I don't think we'd get any different results from the teams on this list. Maybe West ham but still, they've been sub-par all season amd got hammered hard by Arsenal a few weeks back at the London stadium so I wouldn't count them but if they manage to cause an upset, I'll be pleasantly surprised. 

[klidex]

Liverpool are losing power, Man City and Arsenal are working hard to win every game. Meanwhile, Sheffield United has been confirmed to be relegated. The top ranking is very exciting, but Liverpool seems to have a problem. I saw Moh Salah arguing or arguing with Kloop when he was about to come on as a substitute against West Ham. Looking at the opportunity, Liverpool still have a chance, but it seems to look very heavy. Only Man City has the best chance because Man City has 1 game less.

Liverpool are increasingly losing control. I think Liverpool can still fix their problems by performing well after being beaten by Everton, but I understand that Liverpool are experiencing problems and that is what triggered Liverpool's current decline. I assess the coach's decision when replacing Moh Salah in the 79th minute. This was the wrong decision, Moh Salah should have been included in the starting 11 in the match from the start. Maybe if Moh Salah had been in Liverpool's game from the start, maybe Moh Salah could have scored a goal and Liverpool could have won, but because Moh Salah was given only a little time, he didn't can score goals quickly.

I understand that Jurgen Kloop did this so that Moh Salah's stamina was still good enough to be used as a substitute and could score goals easily but unfortunately Salah didn't want that so Salah felt that Kloop's decision was wrong and caused a feud between the two, I hope Jurgen Kloop can To overcome this, he is a head coach who has patience in caring for his subordinates well. Hopefully this will not happen again in the next match.

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Looks like it is actually "Manchester City may not lose another game" since their last tie, and people might be right about that. They have FA cup finals that they will play so a single game but aside from that the only thing they care about is the league and they are doing quite alright about that, and I feel like we are going to end up with a good result there.

I feel like the best thing to do in this case would be just making sure that we are dealing with a greater return, so it is a big deal without a doubt. I think the best thing to do in this case would be just letting "they will win" bets on both Arsenal and City as well while there could be a loss in one of them I think it is quite possible that both teams will just end the season with just wins instead.

After being eliminated from the Champions League, of course, the league trophy is the most prestigious trophy for them to compete for this season compared to the FA Cup, but even so, of course Manchester City will not let go of both of them from their grasp this season, for now, of course, Manchester City's main focus is to win the EPL to be able to close the wounds of their elimination from the Champions League this season,  I think the performance and also the consistency possessed by Manchester City has been proven for a long time so that when there is a tight competition between Arsenal and Manchester City this season, of course Manchester City is the most favorite team to win.

From the beginning to the middle of the season Manchester City continues to be in third place in the standings and only needs one bad result from Arsenal and Liverpool for manchester city to be at the top of the table, for now of course it will be very difficult for us to see Arsenal and also Liverpool can take again the top of the table from Manchester City, although Manchester City is currently in second place but with 1 game left postponed, certainly deserves to say They are the current leaders of the Premier League standings.

[masulum]

Klopp's players are really lost. They can't find their way and this is about to cost them the PL championship.    Honestly, I had bigger expectations than them in comparison to Arsenal.

Someone once said on this forum that Klopp's decision to announce he was leaving Liverpool before the end of the season was a mistake. It seems this is true, currently Liverpool is losing many important points to become EPL champions for the second time. Liverpool players may not be able to accept Klopp decision for the most part, so they have lost their enthusiasm for playing. But. This is not entirely the reason for Liverpool dropping so many points. Because if Liverpool players still hope for a trophy, if Klopp strategies is not effective, there should be alternatives that players can do to improve their game. Next season will probably be a tough new season for Liverpool, unless their coach has a positive record of bringing his team to domestic and European championships.

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It's simple, of course no team in any league really wants to see their eternal rivals to be champhionship, as well as Tottenham, of course they don't want to see Arsenal can end the season with a championship trophy because it will be a wound for Tottenham fans later, so in my opinion Tottenham will indeed play all out in the game but to win of course it is difficult for us to see because indeed I am quite sure if Tottenham will let Manchester City won to thwart Arsenal chances of champhioship.

This is like expecting Manchester United to lose to Arsenal so as not to let their neighbors to win their 4th title in a row.

Tottenham are looking to secure a Champions league spot this season, competing against United and most importantly Aston Villa. You honestly do not expect Tottenham will give up a Champions league spot simply because they do not want their rivals to win the league.

My expectation is that City will be too strong for them, City has struggled at this away matches with Tottenham, but at this stage in the season may be just too much. There's also too much focus on that match, Fulham away for City may be a potential banana peel.

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[AprilioMP]

Liverpool have already lost the race in my opinion because a team that wants the title so badly wouldn’t lose guard at a very crucial moment after they have managed to keep maintain a good performance from the beginning of the season and disappointed their fans at the end, the way they are playing i also think they have a problem.

Liverpool's name is no longer on the list of teams that will compete in the PL title race after dropping full points in several matches. Liverpool should still be included, but based on existing statistics, that is no longer possible and many fans no longer have hope in their support team as it was mid-league.

Manchester City and Arsenal are the two teams battling hard to win the league and so far both teams are performing well and right now it is very difficult to predict which team will lift the trophy but Manchester City have the best chance to go ahead at the moment because they have an outstanding match to play.

Manchester City has a greater chance of becoming the owner of the Premier League title this season because their game is more promising and is strengthened by the teams they will face in the remaining matches they have yet to play.
Arsenal could be hampered by their progress against Manchester United after facing Bournemouth at the Emirates Stadium. It could be said that Arsenal will win against Bournemouth because Bournemouth no longer influences the result against Arsenal.