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July 01, 2023, 10:50:23 AM
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there are some Rumours in football i do not give attention, i will just view the headlines and pass. Liverpool bidding for Mbappe is not out of place, because every clubs need him in their team. but the possibility for mbappe to leave psg to Liverpool that is not playing champions league is very slim. Mbbappe can only leave Psg to Manchester united and Real madrid and not to any club that's not in champions league.

Arsenal are also interested in Mbappe, since Mbappe has not sign a new contract for Psg, every clubs are observing the situation kindly. one thing issure, mbappe will not be playing in psg next season if he do not extend his contract. by next year he will be free agent and they will lose more. Pgs has to be rational about the situation.
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July 01, 2023, 10:59:23 AM
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there are some Rumours in football i do not give attention, i will just view the headlines and pass. Liverpool bidding for Mbappe is not out of place, because every clubs need him in their team. but the possibility for mbappe to leave psg to Liverpool that is not playing champions league is very slim. Mbbappe can only leave Psg to Manchester united and Real madrid and not to any club that's not in champions league.

Arsenal are also interested in Mbappe, since Mbappe has not sign a new contract for Psg, every clubs are observing the situation kindly. one thing issure, mbappe will not be playing in psg next season if he do not extend his contract. by next year he will be free agent and they will lose more. Pgs has to be rational about the situation.
Like avoiding such rumours  Because despite Mbappe being offered so much money, he is only thinking of leaving PSG with the hope of winning the Champions League trophy and the Ballon d'Or, why would he sign for that money with a team like Liverpool who have not already qualified for the Champions League? The biggest and most likely of all the rumors is Mbappé's move to Real Madrid. If Mbappe does decide to switch clubs, he is most likely to join Real Madrid. And this possibility may be true. Also I don't think Mbappe can join Liverpool.

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July 02, 2023, 02:16:44 AM
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Like avoiding such rumours  Because despite Mbappe being offered so much money, he is only thinking of leaving PSG with the hope of winning the Champions League trophy and the Ballon d'Or, why would he sign for that money with a team like Liverpool who have not already qualified for the Champions League? The biggest and most likely of all the rumors is Mbappé's move to Real Madrid. If Mbappe does decide to switch clubs, he is most likely to join Real Madrid. And this possibility may be true. Also I don't think Mbappe can join Liverpool.
Winning big titles like Champions League and domestic titles at leagues which are bigger than Ligue 1 are Mbappe's targets. Especially Champions League which is a most wanted title with Mbappe and he knows that winning Champions League is a big achievement for his career even he already won World Cup 2018 with France. Additionally, winning Champions League will open a very big chance for Mbappe to win Ballon d'Or which he has never won in his career.

Though titles are important for Mbappe's consideration, we can not exclude that he also want to receive good salary. He deserves that and he will not join a club that pay him like $1M or $4M each season even he can win Champions League with them. Titles with a team, personal awards and high salary are all factors for Mbappe consideration about his next destination.

If talking about chance to win Champions League, Liverpool have less chance than Real Madrid.

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July 02, 2023, 02:39:13 AM
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Arsenal was doing so many crazy things in the current transfer season. I meant arsenal has been buying some new players with very high fees like rice, timber or even havertz from chelsea. I think that this strategy makes sense to be implemented.



Havetz will be going back to old position. There will be lots of rotations that arsenal can use. Jorginho may not be used as starting line up. Timber was replacing white's position.

I have seen arteta used some strategies during last season.

4-3-3, 4-1-41 or even 4-2-3-1.

Arteta may also able to form a new strategy with new compositions. I think that kai and rice gave arteta so many options.


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July 02, 2023, 04:32:39 AM
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Arsenal was doing so many crazy things in the current transfer season. I meant arsenal has been buying some new players with very high fees like rice, timber or even havertz from chelsea. I think that this strategy makes sense to be implemented.
Arsenal's squad now looks solid since their starting line up and bench players are strong. They have Nketiah and Trossard in attacking position, they have Xhaka, Jorginho and Partey in midfielder,they have Soraes, White, Gabriel and Kiwior in defense position.

It's interesting to see Kai will play in Arsenal, if he play in midfielder he must have good ball possession and accurate pass, I don't see that two skill when he was in Chelsea. But if Kai can't play in attacking midfielder, he can still play as false nine since Saka is good in finishing.
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July 02, 2023, 04:49:27 AM
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Arsenal was doing so many crazy things in the current transfer season. I meant arsenal has been buying some new players with very high fees like rice, timber or even havertz from chelsea. I think that this strategy makes sense to be implemented.
Arsenal's squad now looks solid since their starting line up and bench players are strong. They have Nketiah and Trossard in attacking position, they have Xhaka, Jorginho and Partey in midfielder,they have Soraes, White, Gabriel and Kiwior in defense position.

It's interesting to see Kai will play in Arsenal, if he play in midfielder he must have good ball possession and accurate pass, I don't see that two skill when he was in Chelsea. But if Kai can't play in attacking midfielder, he can still play as false nine since Saka is good in finishing.
maybe they are better prepared for the title race with Arsenal's current squad. they have looked stronger in midfield, which will be good enough for them to build up their striker's goalscoring productivity.
I have a feeling Arsenal made an efficient signing this summer. they really need new players that they bring in according to their portion of the position.
I hope Arsenal start to be able to maintain the consistency of their game this season because City is still a strong team they have to beat.



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Have you heard of the news about Liverpool's possible offer for Mbappe in the near future? It is said that Liverpool will offer 300 million euros for him. I think PSG would be really willing to sell him in case there is an offer like that. Because even though PSG have to pay a lot of money to Mbappe in case of selling him early they will still be in a serious profit.

It is much better than letting him go without a transfer fee surely. In this case I assume that Liverpool wouldn't be the only team to make the same offer. Real Madrid have been monitoring his situation for a long time. I would expect them to meet the demands of PSG and Mbappe both undoubtedly.

In this case I don't think Liverpool's chance would be higher to sign him.

Mbappe deserve such offer, if Liverpool management have such amount of money to sign a single player in this summer, I think they will not regret it through out the years mbappe will going to spend with Liverpool because he is among the best strikers in the whole world. If Liverpool management stand on that amount of money, I think PSG management will prefer to release him to Liverpool than Real Madrid, because Mbappe really want to leave PSG so that he can join other teams to shine and achieve a good name at the end of the contract. Mbappe will prefer to join Liverpool than any other teams because he will not look at the money than to look at where he can perform very well in away he will remain the best player in the team which will be very easy for him to get such honor from Liverpool.

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Have you heard of the news about Liverpool's possible offer for Mbappe in the near future? It is said that Liverpool will offer 300 million euros for him. I think PSG would be really willing to sell him in case there is an offer like that. Because even though PSG have to pay a lot of money to Mbappe in case of selling him early they will still be in a serious profit.

It is much better than letting him go without a transfer fee surely. In this case I assume that Liverpool wouldn't be the only team to make the same offer. Real Madrid have been monitoring his situation for a long time. I would expect them to meet the demands of PSG and Mbappe both undoubtedly.

In this case I don't think Liverpool's chance would be higher to sign him.

Mbappe deserve such offer, if Liverpool management have such amount of money to sign a single player in this summer, I think they will not regret it through out the years mbappe will going to spend with Liverpool because he is among the best strikers in the whole world. If Liverpool management stand on that amount of money, I think PSG management will prefer to release him to Liverpool than Real Madrid, because Mbappe really want to leave PSG so that he can join other teams to shine and achieve a good name at the end of the contract. Mbappe will prefer to join Liverpool than any other teams because he will not look at the money than to look at where he can perform very well in away he will remain the best player in the team which will be very easy for him to get such honor from Liverpool.

the question is, if indeed Liverpool are able to sign Mbappe with money worth € 300 million after that will Liverpool be able to give Mbappe a salary after spending a lot of money to sign him? I don't doubt Liverpool's finances but here the problem is that Mbappe is the most expensive player and has a very high salary and only certain teams are willing to take risks to get this top player.
from another opinion Liverpool also have to compete with other teams who are after Mbappe and this is what makes uncertain rumors always spread because no team has dared to take Mbappe to be added to the attack line.
But I always keep in mind that nothing is impossible, maybe Liverpool are desperate to sign Mbappe and maybe someone else will get in a bit of trouble.

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Its not fault with fresh Premier League season 2023/2024 discussion thread but less with name teams participants and good ideas is there has vote for the winner Primer League tittle. All Primer League teams have 42 days left before league begin and seems some of team not completed their squad. Manchester United have loss the main goals keeper David De Gea and not getting replacement until three days after De Gea contract expiring.

Promotion Primer League teams season 2023/24 are Burnley, Sheffield United and Luton Twon FC are interested for discussing how capacity keep stay in Primer League or success break until top standing position. But has problem with Luton Twon FC teams because their stadium under standards and have move to other stadium or they have renovation with Kenilworth Road stadium has good capacities or not.

Sheffield United will try their hardest not to return to the championships, they need to buy players but I believe they don't have enough funds to do so, but I am confident they will try their hardest in the premier league next season, they finished second in the championship when they defeated Birmingham 2-1 in their last game, Luton Town FC will still return to the championship, I am not sure if they can play well in the premier league but football is on predictable anything can happen, Burnley is a fantastic club that does well in the championship and wins the League Cup. They will also do well in the Premier League next season.

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the question is, if indeed Liverpool are able to sign Mbappe with money worth € 300 million after that will Liverpool be able to give Mbappe a salary after spending a lot of money to sign him? I don't doubt Liverpool's finances but here the problem is that Mbappe is the most expensive player and has a very high salary and only certain teams are willing to take risks to get this top player.
from another opinion Liverpool also have to compete with other teams who are after Mbappe and this is what makes uncertain rumors always spread because no team has dared to take Mbappe to be added to the attack line.
But I always keep in mind that nothing is impossible, maybe Liverpool are desperate to sign Mbappe and maybe someone else will get in a bit of trouble.

I think there won't be any other competitor than Real Madrid for Mbappe. Because there hasn't even been a single speculation about an interest by another top team recently. His cost is too much for even rich teams so they also think twice before going for a move. Most of them choose to bring more players in a transfer window to strengthen more than one area by paying a lot less money than that.

I can't imagine how Liverpool would look with Mbappe and Salah in the attacking line playing together. These are both world stars and having this big stars in your team at the same time is always a risk as well. PSG did it great with that trio though but we never know what would happen in a different case.

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Arsenal's squad now looks solid since their starting line up and bench players are strong. They have Nketiah and Trossard in attacking position, they have Xhaka, Jorginho and Partey in midfielder,they have Soraes, White, Gabriel and Kiwior in defense position.

Xhaka can leave anytime as leverkusen is interesting in signing him as a new player. The talk is still happening between leverkusen and arsenal but since arsenal has havertz, arsenal has increased xhaka's price.

It's interesting to see Kai will play in Arsenal, If he play in midfielder he must have good ball possession and accurate pass, I don't see that two skill when he was in Chelsea. But if Kai can't play in attacking midfielder, he can still play as false nine since Saka is good in finishing.
He will be playing in his best position to be behind of striker. He was performing so badly last season with chelsea but he was not playing as central striker. Timo werner has been playing as central striker and havertz was playing behind striker during tuchel's era.
The thing changed when potter was coming in as he was forcing havertz to play as central striker for chelsea which is not his specialization.

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I have seen arteta used some strategies during last season.

4-3-3, 4-1-41 or even 4-2-3-1.

Arteta may also able to form a new strategy with new compositions. I think that kai and rice gave arteta so many options.
Arteta is Pep's student, and Arteta can't change it like the previous session, so that situation, his strategy can be read perfectly by Pep and make the team lose perfectly. As we can see, Arsenal never gets the win in the last 3 matches. And, I can be sure they will be lost again on Community Shield on 6th August next if Arteta uses the same strategy. He needs a major overhaul on the team, at least there is a strategy that pep doesn't know.

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Arteta is a really good student of Guardiola indeed. I even started to think that Guardiola's heir at Manchester City will be Arteta in the future. For now both managers are concentrated on their own work at their current teams. Guardiola has reached his ultimate goal with Manchester City as well. Therefore I wonder if he will think of going for new adventures in a couple of years the most.

Arteta is doing a really great job with Arsenal these days. The latest season was a serious level of success for Arsenal I think. They even stayed in the title race for a long time. But due to being a young team they couldn't keep their concentration high on last weeks and lost their title chance.

But this is a solid improvement by Arteta that's for certain. I would like to see him being brought to Manchester City when Guardiola leaves.

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Looks like manchester united is quite serious to the next 2023/2024 session. They have planing to buy any player to fill up the weak position. maybe because they also play in the champions league so that situation they must buy another player, one of them is Mount which is almost certain to Old Trafford. they are also still hunting attacker from Serie A, Rasmus Hojlund that can add front line, this mean, they have 3 attacker: Rashford, Hojlund, and Antony if deal with Atalanta.

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I think there won't be any other competitor than Real Madrid for Mbappe. Because there hasn't even been a single speculation about an interest by another top team recently. His cost is too much for even rich teams so they also think twice before going for a move. Most of them choose to bring more players in a transfer window to strengthen more than one area by paying a lot less money than that.
except for waiting for Mbappe to complete his contract with PSG so that Mbappe is on a free transfer so that big teams will chase him like Man City and MU, I think they are also interested in getting Mbappe.

out of all the speculation about Mbappe let's get out of this uncertain rumor because I think the premier league without Mbappe still has star players who have good talent like Haaland.

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Arteta is a really good student of Guardiola indeed. I even started to think that Guardiola's heir at Manchester City will be Arteta in the future. For now both managers are concentrated on their own work at their current teams. Guardiola has reached his ultimate goal with Manchester City as well. Therefore I wonder if he will think of going for new adventures in a couple of years the most.

Arteta is doing a really great job with Arsenal these days. The latest season was a serious level of success for Arsenal I think. They even stayed in the title race for a long time. But due to being a young team they couldn't keep their concentration high on last weeks and lost their title chance.

But this is a solid improvement by Arteta that's for certain. I would like to see him being brought to Manchester City when Guardiola leaves.

Arteta has a long way to go as per achievement before he might even be considered to manage Manchester city.

Besides securing four wins from four Premier League games in November and December. Besides being awarded the Premier League Manager of the Month for a repeated time, What has he really won since he began his role?

His value will be doubled if Arsenal were to replicate their last seasons performance and even win the league. We know how hard it would be this season considering other teams has strenghtened their squad to avoid lapses.

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Arteta is a really good student of Guardiola indeed. I even started to think that Guardiola's heir at Manchester City will be Arteta in the future. For now both managers are concentrated on their own work at their current teams. Guardiola has reached his ultimate goal with Manchester City as well. Therefore I wonder if he will think of going for new adventures in a couple of years the most.

Arteta is doing a really great job with Arsenal these days. The latest season was a serious level of success for Arsenal I think. They even stayed in the title race for a long time. But due to being a young team they couldn't keep their concentration high on last weeks and lost their title chance.

But this is a solid improvement by Arteta that's for certain. I would like to see him being brought to Manchester City when Guardiola leaves.

Arteta has a long way to go as per achievement before he might even be considered to manage Manchester city.
What has he really won since he began his role?

His value will be doubled if Arsenal were to replicate their last seasons performance and even win the league. We know how hard it would be this season considering other teams has strenghtened their squad to avoid lapses.

Arsenal werent in top 4 for a couple or years and since Arteta came to the club he has done big things. He o most won the premier league and gave hope to Arsenal fans finally that they can win a trophy. With the new players that just came in i think they will be in top 4 for sure and maybe even fight for the title again.

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July 06, 2023, 07:58:33 PM
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Arteta is a really good student of Guardiola indeed. I even started to think that Guardiola's heir at Manchester City will be Arteta in the future. For now both managers are concentrated on their own work at their current teams. Guardiola has reached his ultimate goal with Manchester City as well. Therefore I wonder if he will think of going for new adventures in a couple of years the most.

Arteta is doing a really great job with Arsenal these days. The latest season was a serious level of success for Arsenal I think. They even stayed in the title race for a long time. But due to being a young team they couldn't keep their concentration high on last weeks and lost their title chance.

But this is a solid improvement by Arteta that's for certain. I would like to see him being brought to Manchester City when Guardiola leaves.

Arteta has a long way to go as per achievement before he might even be considered to manage Manchester city.
What has he really won since he began his role?

His value will be doubled if Arsenal were to replicate their last seasons performance and even win the league. We know how hard it would be this season considering other teams has strenghtened their squad to avoid lapses.

Arsenal werent in top 4 for a couple or years and since Arteta came to the club he has done big things. He o most won the premier league and gave hope to Arsenal fans finally that they can win a trophy. With the new players that just came in i think they will be in top 4 for sure and maybe even fight for the title again.
Arsenal have indeed changed a lot after joining Arteta, but when we talk about new players taken by Arsenal, we must also remember that the top 5 clubs in the Premier League also have many new players, even like Manchester United and Liverpool.
So the competition for the top 5 or top 4 in the premier league is going to be even tougher and if Arsenal is not able to compete consistently he will lose his title again next season.

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July 07, 2023, 03:13:32 AM
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Arsenal have indeed changed a lot after joining Arteta, but when we talk about new players taken by Arsenal, we must also remember that the top 5 clubs in the Premier League also have many new players, even like Manchester United and Liverpool.
So the competition for the top 5 or top 4 in the premier league is going to be even tougher and if Arsenal is not able to compete consistently he will lose his title again next season.
Actually, Arsenal are champions in the previous session, but because they didn't focus on their goals, that make them chaotic in the last minutes. Besides that, Arteta is also inexperienced to consistent, His attitude is far away when we talk about skill and management with Pep. Arteta still thinks that Pep is still his mentor, so not confident when facing Pep on the field.

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