⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

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So far, Arsenal are still showing their sharpness in pre-season matches, including players like Jesus who managed to score goals, but in my opinion, pre-season matches and official matches will be very different so Arsenal cannot expect Jesus to show good perform in next season, to undergo tight competition next season of course Arsenal must bring in a striker who has a sharper goal-scoring instinct, whether it is Osimhen or Gyokeres.
Whoever is the striker recruited by Arsenal next season, of course I hope that this striker will make a big contribution to the game and also the sharpness of Arsenal front line next season to helo arsenal competete with manchester city.
The playing style of each team and a new player will be different, so the coach must be able to make the new players adapt well so that they can blend in with the playing style applied by the team, because after all the players must be able to master the game scheme implemented by the team and not vice versa.

I think the problem is not with the attackers being less productive, but with the game tactics developed by Arteta. I agree that if Arsenal want to bring in a new striker, it would be good to give competition to the existing strikers, but this is not what they need most. Arteta is responsible for the team's playing tactics and with him the player can bring out his best potential. Jesus is still a productive striker in my opinion, but he needs hard work to get back to his best performance.

Instead of going to Arsenal, I think Osimhen is more likely to be suited to Chelsea's style of play. Chelsea are reportedly interested in Osimhen as it sounds, but I'm not sure which team will get his signature. Osimhen is a prolific striker and he is really good to rely on, but Arsenal's style of play doesn't suit him if Arteta doesn't change his game tactics.

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I think it depends on what the Manager and the Board are looking at.
If you look at their attacking stats last season, it is easy to conclude that Arsenal don’t need a striker. They were scoring goals for fun. But if you look deeply at the games and the moments that they didn’t capitalize on, you’ll see that despite all the goals they weren’t clinical enough.
Honestly it’ll be hard to win the league title with Kai Havertz and Gabriel Jesus as strikers. I’m not saying they can't win with them but the odds are almost astronomical.
Arteta should a quality Striker,  and stop the obsession with modeling them after Manchester City. The need for a Striker became glaring at the tail end of last season, especially in the Champions League.

I would guess that City didn't need a striker neither, look at how great they were, but they still got Haaland because that dude is Haaland and how can you not get him when you can. And because of that I think if Arsenal could get someone who is actually very great then they should get one, not because they need to but because any great player would definitely improve their team and that should be the most important part. However, if they are going to get a striker just for getting a striker sake then they should not do that at all, it would not help their team and the result will not be good at all.

I personally believe that we should probably consider the fact that it is going to end up being a little bit more important if we are careful with what we do. I believe that it is going to take some time for them to find someone that great, and it may cost a lot but if it is not worth it then it's not worth it.

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If Mohamed Salah leaves Liverpool and goes to another club, Liverpool's forward lineup will be very weak and it will be a challenge for the manager to do well in Premier League or Champions League with this weak lineup. The transfer window is still open and if Mohamed Salah does indeed leave the club, we will definitely be waiting to see who will come to Liverpool next.

It's not only Salah in Liverpool that brings the performance of Liverpool players to be excellent, they have other players  that is more in important that makes to be defeating their counterpart, what I really want us to know is that we have to understand, that Liverpool  have their own method of game and people that assist salah that makes it performance to be credible for the team....no player that go out of a club that will make the club to collapse.

We have Virgil van Dijk and we also have Sadio Mané and Trent Alexander-Arnold, that can perform well, even their much player that is good in which they will purchase to better Liverpool in the absence of Salah

Do you think Sadio Mane is still playing at Liverpool? Seriously?

But about, if for example Salah leaves, I am personally still optimistic that Liverpool will still have a good attack line. Because after all, Liverpool also still have Luis Diaz, Cody Gakpo, Diogo Jota and also Darwin Nunez and moreover, they are all still young who certainly still have great potential over time.

But apart from that, I personally believe Salah will still survive because if I'm not wrong, Salah also made a statement that he would still survive to play in Europe, when there were many rumors that said Salah would play in the Saudi Pro League. After all, in this pre-season match Salah also still showed his great quality and thus, not sure if Liverpool sold Salah. Thus, then I personally am very confident that Liverpool will still retain Salah maybe until his contract expires, or maybe he will also get a contract extension later, who knows.

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I think the problem is not with the attackers being less productive, but with the game tactics developed by Arteta. I agree that if Arsenal want to bring in a new striker, it would be good to give competition to the existing strikers, but this is not what they need most. Arteta is responsible for the team's playing tactics and with him the player can bring out his best potential. Jesus is still a productive striker in my opinion, but he needs hard work to get back to his best performance.

Instead of going to Arsenal, I think Osimhen is more likely to be suited to Chelsea's style of play. Chelsea are reportedly interested in Osimhen as it sounds, but I'm not sure which team will get his signature. Osimhen is a prolific striker and he is really good to rely on, but Arsenal's style of play doesn't suit him if Arteta doesn't change his game tactics.

Sometimes I don't really know the actual problem of Arsenal because they look good, but anytime they have a match, things turn around, although the coach is really supposed to find out the main problem of this squad because this coming season is going to be different and we are looking at Arsenal at the top of the table, so Arteta needs to strengthen the squad more than before. Arsenal players are all good, so I think Arteta needs to change his tactics or introduce them to another method that can make this squad look greater.

For Osimhen, I think his coming to Arsenal will make Arteta make another arrangement again, which is introducing new tactics that will suit Osimhen, and we don't really need that now, which I think is already late because other players will still have to use it first before their performance comes normal and this season is about to start already.

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1. Viktor Gyökeres vs Osimhen (striker)
There is still no clear certainty even though Arsenal is currently quite pressed for it. Between Viktor Gyökeres or Osimhen? What do you think?

I would prefer Arsenal to sign Viktor Gyökeres over Osimhen because our(Arsenal) style of football will not be comfortable for Vitor Osimhen because he is not used to possession football.

Exactly, this is one of the reasons that makes sense.
In addition, if we look at their performance statistics in 2023/2024, Viktor Gyökeres has better data on his contribution and performance.

Check the statistical image taken from this site:

Source: Viktor Gyökeres vs. Victor Osimhen

with this data, the MP of both is quite far, as well as the number of goals and assists. Viktor Gyökeres is superior, yes because last season, Osimhen at Napoli was not as good as the previous season.

In addition, the fee for Osimhen is also very high, compared to Viktor Gyökeres which is only around € 65.00m for its market value.

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Exactly, this is one of the reasons that makes sense.
In addition, if we look at their performance statistics in 2023/2024, Viktor Gyökeres has better data on his contribution and performance.

Check the statistical image taken from this site:

Source: Viktor Gyökeres vs. Victor Osimhen

with this data, the MP of both is quite far, as well as the number of goals and assists. Viktor Gyökeres is superior, yes because last season, Osimhen at Napoli was not as good as the previous season.

In addition, the fee for Osimhen is also very high, compared to Viktor Gyökeres which is only around € 65.00m for its market value.

You can see from the image you presented, Viktor Gyökeres have good goal contributions than Osimhen. Even though Osimhen played less games, but if you take the ratio of the games and the goal scored and assists made, it is an attractive point for any team to be convinced with him.

To me, Osimhen is been hyped above expectations, he is good, but sometimes he is not completely active when he is in front of goals, he make pockets of errors and don’t have the perfect finishing strikers like Haaland, Drogba and others have; but there is no doubt, he is strong and have good night to be a good striker.

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So far, Arsenal are still showing their sharpness in pre-season matches, including players like Jesus who managed to score goals, but in my opinion, pre-season matches and official matches will be very different so Arsenal cannot expect Jesus to show good perform in next season, to undergo tight competition next season of course Arsenal must bring in a striker who has a sharper goal-scoring instinct, whether it is Osimhen or Gyokeres.
Whoever is the striker recruited by Arsenal next season, of course I hope that this striker will make a big contribution to the game and also the sharpness of Arsenal front line next season to helo arsenal competete with manchester city.
The playing style of each team and a new player will be different, so the coach must be able to make the new players adapt well so that they can blend in with the playing style applied by the team, because after all the players must be able to master the game scheme implemented by the team and not vice versa.

I think the problem is not with the attackers being less productive, but with the game tactics developed by Arteta. I agree that if Arsenal want to bring in a new striker, it would be good to give competition to the existing strikers, but this is not what they need most. Arteta is responsible for the team's playing tactics and with him the player can bring out his best potential. Jesus is still a productive striker in my opinion, but he needs hard work to get back to his best performance.

Instead of going to Arsenal, I think Osimhen is more likely to be suited to Chelsea's style of play. Chelsea are reportedly interested in Osimhen as it sounds, but I'm not sure which team will get his signature. Osimhen is a prolific striker and he is really good to rely on, but Arsenal's style of play doesn't suit him if Arteta doesn't change his game tactics.

The interesting part of this conversation is that Arsenal has no plan of buying a new striker. In the last friendly match Arsenal played against they won with score lines 4:1 and Havertz as well as the so-called Arsenal striker Gabriel Jesus scored in the match. The both of them are considered to be Arsenal strikers and if they eventually score in the next match against Lyon the idea of getting a new striker is over. In a press conference, Arteta said that he is satisfied with Jesus as when returned for the new season he saw something different in him and he knew that things have changed, and he expect so much from him this coming season. That was when I knew Arteta is no longer interested in any striker but rather since Thomas Partey is leaving soon there will be a need for a replacement in the midfield and that will happen before the season completely kicks off.

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Osimhen is not bad for a center forward, especially if Arteta really needs a target man in his squad. Arteta probably learned a lot from Manchester City where Pep Guardiola really made Haaland a hugely successful target man. Haaland contributed a lot of goals and has been the Premier League's top scorer in the last two seasons, so a change in game scheme is not always considered a bad thing.

Imagine if Osimhen really came to Arsenal and became a productive striker there from the first season, wouldn't that make the top scorer competition even better? I expect that from Arsenal, but in no way do I mean to belittle any of the players the management is trying to bring in.

I have said this before that o find it surprising that with the way things are aren’t going smoothly for Osimhen and Napoli that both Arsenal or Chelsea aren’t taking Advantage of the situation. Let’s leave away the whole of last season where we all know that Victor Osimhen would have done better but due to some crisis like the injury setbacks and also him been absent with his nation for the African Cup of nations we all know how many goals he would have racked up but yet he still went on to get 16.

Arsenal should Be in this race although it will definitely be a hard one to win for them but they should have been the first team to actually show interest on him but every club is looking at how complicated his transfer will be, it will be a huge gamble to meet to Napoli demands of €100m plus and with the club not looking for a loan it will be difficult for the deal to happen big Atleast Arsenal should be in this race.