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December 27, 2024, 11:25:41 AM
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A bit surprised Chelsea bottled three points. but Fulham deserved it. Fulham looked so shaprness in the second half. It's a big disappointment for Maresca is not doing subs to increase its club creativity. I'd like to see felix to enter the game, but he always sticks to the Palmer.

I know Palmer is important to the club, but it's not something wrong to replace him when he underperform in the second half. It seems to me Maresca is worrying to replace Palmer.

I'm still disappointed how Maresca doesn't try something new, instead of to keep stick with the same pattern. That's not i wanted to see from his club.


This is only Maresca's second bad match after a very good winning run, so I understand why he doesn't want to change anything, but on the other hand it had to be done against Chelsea. Fulham are a strong team, but I was disappointed with Chelsea's loss as I expected them to win. More expected was Manchester United dropping points, it seems Amorim can't change anything, and Rashford's suspension certainly doesn't help.

 
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December 27, 2024, 12:35:31 PM
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Chelsea tripped on Fulham and didn't even earn a point at home, which would likely cause them to drop to the 3rd place and be overtaken by Arsenal, if the Gunners win against the 19th Ipswich tonight at home, which is very likely.

But has anyone seriously expected that halfway through the season we would see Nottm Forest in third place? They are performing surprisingly well even though their performance is not at the top level i.e. they often get beating from the top clubs (e.g. even Man City in deep crisis beat them 3-0) but they are consistent in scoring 3 points when playing against weaker clubs. Yesterday's victory over Tottenham was their 4th consecutive win in the league.

Another bad game by Man United, they've lost to 17th Wolverhampton (2-0). The red card for Fernandes played a part here, but that's not much of an excuse. They are now getting closer to the relegation zone, being (8th points away from the 18th place) and they have difficult games ahead, against Newcastle and then Liverpool.

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December 27, 2024, 12:36:00 PM
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Chelsea lost good opportunities to close the gap on Liverpool when they drew against Everton. Fulham has been a good side this season but it never occurred to many football fans that they will beat Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. The comeback and win by Fulham was unexpected and this has drawn the Blues back behind Liverpool by seven points.

Tottenham has been inconsistent this season, so their loss is not a surprise. The same thing applies to Manchester City, whose recovery is far from sight. Meanwhile, Liverpool is seizing the opportunity to strongly hold the top spot. For now, no club in the Premiership is as strong and consistent as Liverpool and if it continues this way, they might end up becoming the champions.

Chelsea has been losing points for 2 weeks, their streak was broken in the Everton match but they lost this match at home.
The point difference between them and Liverpool is 7 but Liverpool still has 1 less match.
If Liverpool wins the missing match, they will have 10 points against their closest rival.

Tottenham is bad this year, their goalkeeper is very bad, they will continue to concede goals and lose if this continues.

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December 27, 2024, 12:48:45 PM
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Chelsea has been losing points for 2 weeks, their streak was broken in the Everton match but they lost this match at home.
The point difference between them and Liverpool is 7 but Liverpool still has 1 less match.
If Liverpool wins the missing match, they will have 10 points against their closest rival.

Somehow I never considered Chelsea as a real contender for the title, maybe it's just because they lacked consistency in the past seasons and often had a hard time winning when they were expected to. This season looks much better for them but they're still not quite there yet.

Assuming Arsenal wins tonight (chances of that are estimated to be 84% as per google), then the gap between Liverpool and the 2nd place will be 6 points, and if Liverpool wins the outstanding game against Everton (which is not obvious that they will) the gap will be 9 points, not 10 as you mentioned. That's still a lot and will be hard to make up. Unless Liverpool's management messes things up during the transfer window, it doesn't look like they can be stopped from winning the league this season.

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December 27, 2024, 01:01:08 PM
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Chelsea tripped on Fulham and didn't even earn a point at home, which would likely cause them to drop to the 3rd place and be overtaken by Arsenal, if the Gunners win against the 19th Ipswich tonight at home, which is very likely.

But has anyone seriously expected that halfway through the season we would see Nottm Forest in third place? They are performing surprisingly well even though their performance is not at the top level i.e. they often get beating from the top clubs (e.g. even Man City in deep crisis beat them 3-0) but they are consistent in scoring 3 points when playing against weaker clubs. Yesterday's victory over Tottenham was their 4th consecutive win in the league.

Another bad game by Man United, they've lost to 17th Wolverhampton (2-0). The red card for Fernandes played a part here, but that's not much of an excuse. They are now getting closer to the relegation zone, being (8th points away from the 18th place) and they have difficult games ahead, against Newcastle and then Liverpool.
Talking about Nottenham Forrest I wasn't expecting them to be in the current position they are now their performance am still surprised about their performance apart from Manchester City beating them  3-0 I think they were able to beat almost all the big boys in the English premier league I believe Nottenham Forrest manager will definitely win best couch of the season if he still continue this way considering the players he is playing with.

The current Manchester United under performance was still cause by their previous couch ETH he busy signing in players that can't fit in the team it will take Amorim more two seasons to be able to fix in Manchester United back again because the previous couch really messed up the whole team and it will difficult for to win their next two games which is against Newcastle and Liverpool respectively and also Fernandes red card yesterday was one of the major reason Manchester United lost to wolves.

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December 27, 2024, 01:13:35 PM
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How things are going Liverpool will win the title a couple of rounds earlier. I dont see anyone coming close to them and the gap will just be wider between them and the rest of the league. They won against Leicester easily just in second gear. After the third goal they didnt even want to attack and Leicester didnt even touch the ball later on

No one is catching up now, both Chelsea and Manchester city dropped important points although the Chelsea one was the most surprising one after leading in the first half, had 20 mins to defend the lead and lost it within 15 mins. Arsenal could take the advantage to go second tomorrow.

Personally I think the Liverpool second goal was offside, didn't know how VAR was able to bypass that. It's Liverpool thing I guess.

A bit surprised Chelsea bottled three points. but Fulham deserved it. Fulham looked so shaprness in the second half. It's a big disappointment for Maresca is not doing subs to increase its club creativity. I'd like to see felix to enter the game, but he always sticks to the Palmer.

I know Palmer is important to the club, but it's not something wrong to replace him when he underperform in the second half. It seems to me Maresca is worrying to replace Palmer.

I'm still disappointed how Maresca doesn't try something new, instead of to keep stick with the same pattern. That's not i wanted to see from his club.



Palmer scored in the first half and after that in second half he assisted but goal was cancelled due to var and i think Maresca wanted to keep him on the field to finish the game. But the game ended up going the other way. I knew Fulham is a good team but never expected a comeback against Chelsea and the wierdest thing is Fulham has the same amount of points as Man City

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December 27, 2024, 01:18:05 PM
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Nottingham Forest has just managed to achieve their 4th consecutive win in the Premier League, the victory over Tottenham has made Nottingham now in the Champions League Zone. Nottingham have been a real shock this season, their brilliance has left the big teams in the lurch. Liverpool lost at Anfield, Man United lost at Old Trafford, Defeated Aston Villa and Tottenham have just become their victims.

This season, Nottingham has become a threat to the big clubs who have always managed to appear in the UCL.
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December 27, 2024, 01:45:52 PM
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And now the match between Everton is underway, now the match has entered the second half, and for the time being the score is still 1-1. I hope Man City can score the winning goal, or at least hold Everton to a draw, a draw is better than having to experience another defeat

Another point loss by Manchester City. The nightmare continues... It is really unbelievable to see them having a this long bad streak honestly. They couldn't beat Everton as well today despite finding some decent chances to get ahead once again. Everton are also really good about stealing points from top teams of the Premier League though. But this still can't be an excuse for Manchester City of course. They are very bad and can't do anything about it obviously.  Sad

A draw is better than losing again. They have lost many points in a row, getting one point is better than nothing at all. But on the one hand they also have to be careful because Fulham can shift Man City's position at any time, Fulham managed to snatch three full points from Chelsea, so that their current points are 28 points, the same number of points achieved by City. And now between Man City and Fulham, the only thing that distinguishes their positions is the goal difference achieved by the two teams, and it is only a thin difference of one goal.

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Liverpool must be enjoying their results on one hand. Because Manchester City are normally the biggest threat for the title. Now they have to deal with Chelsea and Arsenal. For now I can say they have been really good at doing it. Today I expect them to beat Leicester too.  Smiley

Liverpool is currently on top because what should be their toughest competitor, Man City, continues to experience decline. As for other teams such as Chelsea and Arsenal, both teams are still inconsistent so they have not been able to approach the points achieved by Liverpool. Chelsea failed when facing Fulham and Arsenal were only able to get a draw in two consecutive matches, which made Arsenal currently displaced by Nottingham Forest

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December 27, 2024, 03:14:56 PM
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Liverpool got scared and they were losing.
Shortly after they managed to score 2 goals and now they are winning.

This win if happens with another potential 3 point from the missing game will be critical.

They are right now at a potential +10 from the second in the leaderboard after 18 games, crazy.
Liverpool definitely will get a win again this week and give a bigger gap with the team in second and also having a game at hand.

To be honest I still think they may fall off just like last season after dominating for so long. I will actually see them as the title favourite if they can hold up on their lead till to at least February ending.

How things are going Liverpool will win the title a couple of rounds earlier. I dont see anyone coming close to them and the gap will just be wider between them and the rest of the league. They won against Leicester easily just in second gear. After the third goal they didnt even want to attack and Leicester didnt even touch the ball later on
While the teams closest to Liverpool are losing, Liverpool continues to lead and win completely and there is no team bothering them. Manchester City has not been able to win a match for many weeks, how will they fix it, Pep Guardiola cannot find a solution, this year is almost over, although it is too early to say for City, there are many losses.

Chelsea were also getting close, they won a point last week and lost today. In other words, there is no team left that is really close to Liverpool.
The way Manchester City have started this season, people will stop talking about Manchester City after a few days. Now Liverpool's good performance is in our eyes, so in the Premier League, most of the discussions are about Liverpool and criticism is more about Manchester City. Liverpool have continued their early season performance so far so this team can be trusted for now. Liverpool have not been Premier League champions for a long time so this season is a golden opportunity for them to become champions as Manchester City are not in form this season. 
Hopefully Liverpool won't drop points in the Premier League at least because of their mistakes and they will continue this performance until the end of the season.
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After the win of yesterday evening Premier leauge after many years sounds close before Xmas.
Liverpool has 7 points of advantage versus the second team, Chealsea

Nobody was expecting them in second position but if Sloth manage to win the missing game it will be at +10.

I think it may never happened that a team lost 10 points of advantage in a single year from the 1st position.
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The way Manchester City have started this season, people will stop talking about Manchester City after a few days. Now Liverpool's good performance is in our eyes, so in the Premier League, most of the discussions are about Liverpool and criticism is more about Manchester City. Liverpool have continued their early season performance so far so this team can be trusted for now. Liverpool have not been Premier League champions for a long time so this season is a golden opportunity for them to become champions as Manchester City are not in form this season. 
Hopefully Liverpool won't drop points in the Premier League at least because of their mistakes and they will continue this performance until the end of the season.

In the last few seasons, we have seen Manchester City, Liverpool and Arsenal fighting for the title. This season, Manchester City has lost its form badly. So this team has no chance of winning the title. On the other hand, Arsenal's performance is also quite irregular. Chelsea was able to perform well for a few days. But in the last two matches, Chelsea also lost points and fell behind. So at the moment, Liverpool is dominating the Premier League. Liverpool is ahead of Chelsea, who are in second place in the table, by a big point. If Liverpool can keep their performance somewhat stable in the upcoming matches, then the team can become Premier League Champions.


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After the win of yesterday evening Premier leauge after many years sounds close before Xmas.
Liverpool has 7 points of advantage versus the second team, Chealsea

Nobody was expecting them in second position but if Sloth manage to win the missing game it will be at +10.

I think it may never happened that a team lost 10 points of advantage in a single year from the 1st position.

Definitely establishing a 10 points difference between them and other clubs will set Liverpool up for the title in Slots first season and it will be historical to bottle this at this stage, but it is not impossible for a team to lose 4 matches in the next 20, we have seen this before, Arsenal actually had more points difference last two seasons and the lost the league. Liverpool also had similar difference with just five to six games to go then and they lost the league too so it is possible.

The only difference I see now is Liverpool not having a genuine contender this year, before it was a scary thing to have Manchester city on your tail but right now Chelsea who are second aren’t ripe yet for the league title and Arsenal are not just it this season, so could a free ride for Liverpool especially if Sallah form stays like this

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Liverpool got scared and they were losing.
Shortly after they managed to score 2 goals and now they are winning.

This win if happens with another potential 3 point from the missing game will be critical.

They are right now at a potential +10 from the second in the leaderboard after 18 games, crazy.
Liverpool definitely will get a win again this week and give a bigger gap with the team in second and also having a game at hand.

To be honest I still think they may fall off just like last season after dominating for so long. I will actually see them as the title favourite if they can hold up on their lead till to at least February ending.

How things are going Liverpool will win the title a couple of rounds earlier. I dont see anyone coming close to them and the gap will just be wider between them and the rest of the league. They won against Leicester easily just in second gear. After the third goal they didnt even want to attack and Leicester didnt even touch the ball later on
While the teams closest to Liverpool are losing, Liverpool continues to lead and win completely and there is no team bothering them. Manchester City has not been able to win a match for many weeks, how will they fix it, Pep Guardiola cannot find a solution, this year is almost over, although it is too early to say for City, there are many losses.

Chelsea were also getting close, they won a point last week and lost today. In other words, there is no team left that is really close to Liverpool.
The way Manchester City have started this season, people will stop talking about Manchester City after a few days. Now Liverpool's good performance is in our eyes, so in the Premier League, most of the discussions are about Liverpool and criticism is more about Manchester City. Liverpool have continued their early season performance so far so this team can be trusted for now. Liverpool have not been Premier League champions for a long time so this season is a golden opportunity for them to become champions as Manchester City are not in form this season. 
Hopefully Liverpool won't drop points in the Premier League at least because of their mistakes and they will continue this performance until the end of the season.
Even if Liverpool try to make mistake just the way they've been doing in previous seasons, Man City this time around are not informed to always take up that opportunity if Liverpool mess up and Arsenal who we all took will pick up the fight from where Manchester City dropped it haven't been living up to expectations. so winning the premier League title this season is almost looking like a free ride for Liverpool. Given the reality on ground Manchester City would only get it's acts together come next season because really looking like all hope is Lost for this season, so try and pardon us if we criticize Manchester City the reason is that, they are the defending champions, so we needed more from them.











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December 27, 2024, 06:14:50 PM
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After the win of yesterday evening Premier leauge after many years sounds close before Xmas.
Liverpool has 7 points of advantage versus the second team, Chealsea

Nobody was expecting them in second position but if Sloth manage to win the missing game it will be at +10.

I think it may never happened that a team lost 10 points of advantage in a single year from the 1st position.
The victory over leicester city makes their position more comfortable at the top of the English league standings even they also still have one postponed match which could be an AS card to win the premier league this season, in my opinion, Liverpool have a great opportunity to maintain their lead,  if they are still able to show consistent performance in the second half of this season, especially in crucial matches such as boxing day in the near time, But apart from these advantages, of course Liverpool cannot underestimate their opponents because however all possibilities can still happen in football, even they should remember the failure in the 2018/19 last season, where Liverpool were 9 points ahead of Manchester City, but because of their poor performance when entering the second half season made Manchester City finally become champions at the end season.
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December 27, 2024, 06:38:24 PM
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How things are going Liverpool will win the title a couple of rounds earlier. I dont see anyone coming close to them and the gap will just be wider between them and the rest of the league. They won against Leicester easily just in second gear. After the third goal they didnt even want to attack and Leicester didnt even touch the ball later on
While the teams closest to Liverpool are losing, Liverpool continues to lead and win completely and there is no team bothering them. Manchester City has not been able to win a match for many weeks, how will they fix it, Pep Guardiola cannot find a solution, this year is almost over, although it is too early to say for City, there are many losses.

Chelsea were also getting close, they won a point last week and lost today. In other words, there is no team left that is really close to Liverpool.
The way Manchester City have started this season, people will stop talking about Manchester City after a few days. Now Liverpool's good performance is in our eyes, so in the Premier League, most of the discussions are about Liverpool and criticism is more about Manchester City. Liverpool have continued their early season performance so far so this team can be trusted for now. Liverpool have not been Premier League champions for a long time so this season is a golden opportunity for them to become champions as Manchester City are not in form this season. 
Hopefully Liverpool won't drop points in the Premier League at least because of their mistakes and they will continue this performance until the end of the season.
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I am not sure if people will ever stop talking about City, plus their entire 115 charges thingy is still out there, to be fair they do not really have that much, anyone who followed it closely would know that the reasons why they may drop to championship would be mainly about two things, but in the end, that's still a thing. So while they are already doing badly for the past 13 games, we could consider them getting even worse, not just lose more games which is possible, but also because we are talking about a potential for them to drop as well. So when you think about all of that, it is still a big talking point.

We have never seen a team win this league for four years in a row before as far as I know, and now we are seeing that same team, have one win in 13 games on the fifth season, that is weird and it's definitely newsworthy and even if they end up losing more or win more, they are going to end up getting a lot more talking for sure, it is something that interests people.

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December 27, 2024, 06:45:43 PM
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Nottingham Forest has just managed to achieve their 4th consecutive win in the Premier League, the victory over Tottenham has made Nottingham now in the Champions League Zone. Nottingham have been a real shock this season, their brilliance has left the big teams in the lurch. Liverpool lost at Anfield, Man United lost at Old Trafford, Defeated Aston Villa and Tottenham have just become their victims.

This season, Nottingham has become a threat to the big clubs who have always managed to appear in the UCL.

Nottingham Forest have been one of the dark horses in the English Premier League this season. I don't think there's anyone who would've predicted that the Garibaldis would be in the third place on boxing day but because of their extraordinary performances this season, that's actually the reality now.
Nuno Espirito Santo is doing exceptional job as the club manager and if they succeed to finish the season in the the top four, I think he'll be contesting for the league's best manager of the season.
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Nottingham Forest has just managed to achieve their 4th consecutive win in the Premier League, the victory over Tottenham has made Nottingham now in the Champions League Zone. Nottingham have been a real shock this season, their brilliance has left the big teams in the lurch. Liverpool lost at Anfield, Man United lost at Old Trafford, Defeated Aston Villa and Tottenham have just become their victims.

This season, Nottingham has become a threat to the big clubs who have always managed to appear in the UCL.


Yes, Nottingham has a very impressive result this season, its third season for Nottingham playing in the Premier League, after the previous two seasons Nottingham was only able to struggle and  only finished in the lower zone of the standings. But who would have thought that this season Nottingham managed to beat the elite teams of the Premier League and also, the position in the top four seems to be solid until the end of the season. Considering Manchester City who are no longer good this season, so one place  in the top four will really be filled by Nottingham.

Although indeed, at least there is still a chance for Nottingham to be able to get out of the top four, because their gap points is not that far from the teams outside the top four. So, if Nottingham fails to remain consistent in the second half of the season, then it is likely that Nottingham will drop out of the top four. But yes,  if I consider Nottingham's impressive results throughout the first half of this season, then of course it  is appropriate for Nottingham to finish in the top four at the end of this season.
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I agree that Liverpool is at a point where unless they start playing like City, they are just winners, it's over already. I know that it doesn2t look that easy to decide just yet, but it's true that they are just too far away now.

Chelsea could have gone with Liverpool and try their best, but lost very crucial points when Liverpool won, which resulted with too much gap to close now. I am not saying it's impossible, I know that it's going to end up being a little different, I know things won't be easy, but at the end of the day we are not going to end up with anything shocking, I do not think so. Chelsea doesn't look like a team that could close this gap, and Arsenal is too far away as well, Liverpool basically guaranteed their title at this point.

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 #8639

After the win of yesterday evening Premier leauge after many years sounds close before Xmas.
Liverpool has 7 points of advantage versus the second team, Chealsea

Nobody was expecting them in second position but if Sloth manage to win the missing game it will be at +10.

I think it may never happened that a team lost 10 points of advantage in a single year from the 1st position.

Poor Chelsea,  they failed to use the chance they had, maybe the fight would be between Arsenal and Liverpool and not Chelsea. Maybe the officials in the premier league have been rash to arsenal especially when it gets to bookings as they weren't booked the right ways IMO.
The game left to be played would be a derby game against Everton and I expect a crunch tie whenever they face them. Sewn Dyche will definitely be ready for that game. I would rather Arsenal or Chelsea winning the Premier league competition to Liverpool. Arsenal deserves it.

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December 27, 2024, 09:02:47 PM
 #8640

Chelsea tripped on Fulham and didn't even earn a point at home, which would likely cause them to drop to the 3rd place and be overtaken by Arsenal, if the Gunners win against the 19th Ipswich tonight at home, which is very likely.

But has anyone seriously expected that halfway through the season we would see Nottm Forest in third place? They are performing surprisingly well even though their performance is not at the top level i.e. they often get beating from the top clubs (e.g. even Man City in deep crisis beat them 3-0) but they are consistent in scoring 3 points when playing against weaker clubs. Yesterday's victory over Tottenham was their 4th consecutive win in the league.

Another bad game by Man United, they've lost to 17th Wolverhampton (2-0). The red card for Fernandes played a part here, but that's not much of an excuse. They are now getting closer to the relegation zone, being (8th points away from the 18th place) and they have difficult games ahead, against Newcastle and then Liverpool.

In the match between Chelsea and Fulham, when they showed their ability by scoring a goal in the 16th minute which made Chelsea take the lead over Fulham, I think Chelsea will come out as the winner in this match, but it is very unfortunate that they could not increase their lead so they did not anticipate the comeback made by Fulham.

and as for the match between Arsenal and Ipswich, currently the match is almost touching the end of the first half, and Arsenal is only one goal ahead of Ipswich. The match is still long and Arsenal must increase their lead again, because one goal is not enough to secure three points in this match, because I am worried that if Arsenal does not increase their lead, Ipswich will be able to score an equalizer that I can make the match end in a draw. Yes, even though Ipswich is a weak team.

and regarding Man United, I have not said any further, the team is really down.

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