Population: Economic strength or weakness

[slapper]

I agree with you regarding this, of course, the government has a role in this--the problem of overpopulation and its effects. However, we should not be just focusing there, we cannot deny the fact that the people are also responsible. While the government lacks the support it should be giving to the people, the people are just being too reliant on the government. Both parties have responsibilities to take in order for the problem of overpopulation to be dealt with. No matter how many public schools that provide free education and job fares there are, if the people refuse to make a move then it will be all for nothing. The support should indeed come from the government, as that is the responsibility they have for the people they are governing, but the action of change should also come from the people themselves because if they do not choose to help themselves and continue with their lifestyle of producing kids without knowing what they will do in order to provide the needs of these kids in the future and just hold on to what the government should be doing, nothing will change.

You are right that both government and society have an important role in both of these matters. I think that every place has environmental conditions that are different from other places, so the impact of overpopulation will be different from one place to another. If a place has a good government system, it will certainly be able to provide jobs for the people so that they get a decent income and can meet their needs, but if the government system is not good then they don't think about the impact of overpopulation on the environment.

I really agree with you that the government must provide support to its people in terms of improving the welfare of the people they lead, and the people must be more independent if the government does not care about the impact of excess population on their environment.

It's true that different places have different ecosystems. You mention the government's part in shaping things, and you're right: it's a big deal. They have the potential to make a significant impact if they are capable of doing so. Things like making sure people have work and an adequate standard of living. It's straightforward: a great government system can balance population and environment, making sure both are in harmony. A horrible system though, guy. In a word, it's anarchy. The environment and the people in it take the hit. I agree that action needs to be taken by the government. And the people? They can't sit around and do nothing. The people must take control if the government is dozing off. Do what they can for their environment, right? Every bit counts.

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[Dzwaafu11]

How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?

Even the most populated countries like China, India, and others have already developed, and they are still creating other things that will make their citizens enjoy their way of leaving. To me, overpopulation cannot affect the development of a country if the government in such a country is doing well, but in a situation where the government is corrupt, they don’t care about their citizens.

You can see that even if there are resources available, they don’t care to make use of these resources in such a way that they create job opportunities for the citizens, and I believe job opportunities are one of the ways that we can say a country is developing when everybody is working. And that is what the Chinese government is still doing. With their very large population, are we going to say they did not develop? Nah, mate, so if a government uses available resources in a nation to create other ways of earning, there will be no poverty.

[dothebeats]

How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?

Even the most populated countries like China, India, and others have already developed, and they are still creating other things that will make their citizens enjoy their way of leaving. To me, overpopulation cannot affect the development of a country if the government in such a country is doing well, but in a situation where the government is corrupt, they don’t care about their citizens.

You can see that even if there are resources available, they don’t care to make use of these resources in such a way that they create job opportunities for the citizens, and I believe job opportunities are one of the ways that we can say a country is developing when everybody is working. And that is what the Chinese government is still doing. With their very large population, are we going to say they did not develop? Nah, mate, so if a government uses available resources in a nation to create other ways of earning, there will be no poverty.

You have a good point here regarding job opportunities. Big population means bigger manpower for a country. However, if the government of that country fails to see that and makes the best out of it then it is possible for them to only see overpopulation as a negative thing. Take this country I live in for example, there are a lot of people and yet we lack workers due to individuals choosing to move overseas for better job opportunities that offers higher salary, compensation, and benefits. If these workers were able to find that here in the country then we wouldn't be lacking educators, doctors, and other professionals. This example shows just how a lot of country's government fail to see how they could use overpopulation to their advantage if they can only focus on the needs of their people.

[Alpha Marine]

Under population is not very good and that is what will make a country open their borders for foreigners out of need for labour force. I think there is a solution to this through government policy by giving rewards to couples who increase the numbers of children they give birth to depending on the number stipulated by government. Another point is to discourage abortion because people do that as final resort when they have no other option.

A lot of people do not want kids not because they don't like kids, but because they feel they're not financially ready to have kids and they are not wrong.
Having kids when you can't take care of them is not a good thing to do, so instead of the Government rewarding families that give birth to children, they should find ways to create opportunities for the people, especially young people.

I believe underpopulation is not as big an issue as they make it seem.  Don't get me wrong, I know it's an issue but how many countries can show proof that the economy is slow because of underpopulation? Worst case scenario they open their borders for skilled immigrants.

[Sithara007]

A lot of people do not want kids not because they don't like kids, but because they feel they're not financially ready to have kids and they are not wrong.
Having kids when you can't take care of them is not a good thing to do, so instead of the Government rewarding families that give birth to children, they should find ways to create opportunities for the people, especially young people.

I believe underpopulation is not as big an issue as they make it seem.  Don't get me wrong, I know it's an issue but how many countries can show proof that the economy is slow because of underpopulation? Worst case scenario they open their borders for skilled immigrants.

The biggest problem facing world right now is that intelligent people are having less number of children, while those with low IQ are having plenty of them. And in the long-run, this doesn't bode well for the human race. Look at the following maps:

IQ level by country:



Fertility rate by country:



It is very clear that overall IQ level of human race is going down, and that too at a rapid pace. In the long run, this is not going to bring anything positive for us. There will be more conflict and warfare, and less innovations and inventions.

[CarnagexD]

Under population is not very good and that is what will make a country open their borders for foreigners out of need for labour force. I think there is a solution to this through government policy by giving rewards to couples who increase the numbers of children they give birth to depending on the number stipulated by government. Another point is to discourage abortion because people do that as final resort when they have no other option.

I believe underpopulation is not as big an issue as they make it seem.  Don't get me wrong, I know it's an issue but how many countries can show proof that the economy is slow because of underpopulation? Worst case scenario they open their borders for skilled immigrants.

Germany for example. They faced declining birth rate and aging population that's why their government implemented policies to encourage family growth and attract immigrants to address their problems. Non-Europians get to work and live in Germany, that makes them easier to get employed. I doubt it is a not a big issue.
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How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?

Even the most populated countries like China, India, and others have already developed, and they are still creating other things that will make their citizens enjoy their way of leaving. To me, overpopulation cannot affect the development of a country if the government in such a country is doing well, but in a situation where the government is corrupt, they don’t care about their citizens.

You have a good point here regarding job opportunities. Big population means bigger manpower for a country. However, if the government of that country fails to see that and makes the best out of it then it is possible for them to only see overpopulation as a negative thing.

Yeah. Huge population does not guarantee an economic success either. Governments need to tailor their policies to their unique economic status and social and cultural circumstances. They have to maximize and give importance to the country's natural resources like oil, minerals, farming, even manpower. Maybe each country may copy what other countries do but what works for one country might not work for another. In the end, economic strength or weakness lies beyond the population only.

[MarjorieZimmermanGinger]

A close look at this situation shows that many of these overpopulated nations mostly in Africa and Asia are underdeveloped. While these underpopulated nations are economically buoyant. I think the reason for the poverty of these developing nations is not the population but bad governance and the inability to maximize and distribute available resources equally.  We cannot deny the fact that these overpopulated nations are economically important to these developed nations in terms of human resources. And they contribute immensely to the development of these first-world nations in terms of cheap labour.

Mismanagement is also a problem, causing welfare to fall far short of what society expects. A country that has abundant natural products should be able to get out of the poverty line and be able to make people live at a much more prosperous and sufficient level, especially if human resources are not properly trained to process the natural products they have themselves. In the end they look for workers from outside to do what the people in the country should be able to do and the local people actually become unemployed.

They can take workers from outside if the number of workers in their own country has decreased because there are many people who bet their luck in other countries to make money now. I think this problem will never become a burden for these countries because they can take shortcuts to overcome the decreasing number of workers in their countries.

[inthelongrun]

A lot of people do not want kids not because they don't like kids, but because they feel they're not financially ready to have kids and they are not wrong.
Having kids when you can't take care of them is not a good thing to do, so instead of the Government rewarding families that give birth to children, they should find ways to create opportunities for the people, especially young people.

I believe underpopulation is not as big an issue as they make it seem.  Don't get me wrong, I know it's an issue but how many countries can show proof that the economy is slow because of underpopulation? Worst case scenario they open their borders for skilled immigrants.

The biggest problem facing world right now is that intelligent people are having less number of children, while those with low IQ are having plenty of them. And in the long-run, this doesn't bode well for the human race. Look at the following maps:

IQ level by country:



Fertility rate by country:



It is very clear that overall IQ level of human race is going down, and that too at a rapid pace. In the long run, this is not going to bring anything positive for us. There will be more conflict and warfare, and less innovations and inventions.

I'm curious if North Korea is really included as one of the world's highest IQ populations. I'm also surprised that China is on the same IQ level as Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore.

Anyways, the point really makes sense. Here in my country, people who live in the slums are just too quick to have children. I remember when I was renting near a slum during my college days so I am familiar with some people there. In rural areas, farm workers and other poor people are also the ones with numerous children compared to their employers.

[Juse14]

A lot of people do not want kids not because they don't like kids, but because they feel they're not financially ready to have kids and they are not wrong.
Having kids when you can't take care of them is not a good thing to do, so instead of the Government rewarding families that give birth to children, they should find ways to create opportunities for the people, especially young people.

I believe underpopulation is not as big an issue as they make it seem.  Don't get me wrong, I know it's an issue but how many countries can show proof that the economy is slow because of underpopulation? Worst case scenario they open their borders for skilled immigrants.

The biggest problem facing world right now is that intelligent people are having less number of children, while those with low IQ are having plenty of them. And in the long-run, this doesn't bode well for the human race. Look at the following maps:

IQ level by country:



Fertility rate by country:



It is very clear that overall IQ level of human race is going down, and that too at a rapid pace. In the long run, this is not going to bring anything positive for us. There will be more conflict and warfare, and less innovations and inventions.

I'm curious if North Korea is really included as one of the world's highest IQ populations. I'm also surprised that China is on the same IQ level as Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore.

Anyways, the point really makes sense. Here in my country, people who live in the slums are just too quick to have children. I remember when I was renting near a slum during my college days so I am familiar with some people there. In rural areas, farm workers and other poor people are also the ones with numerous children compared to their employers.

I also quite understand why the IQ of people in my country is still below average. And this is none other than because the level of infrastructure and education development in my country is not evenly distributed and as we know, existing development and education is only focused on one area, namely urban areas. And what's more, the condition of the existing community has not received real social prosperity and there are still many people living below the poverty level, so this makes them pessimistic.

But in my opinion having many children is not a problem because this is fate. The problem is when they have many children but they are unable to increase their business and change their thinking on how to increase their income.

[uswa56]

Under population is not very good and that is what will make a country open their borders for foreigners out of need for labour force. I think there is a solution to this through government policy by giving rewards to couples who increase the numbers of children they give birth to depending on the number stipulated by government. Another point is to discourage abortion because people do that as final resort when they have no other option.

A lot of people do not want kids not because they don't like kids, but because they feel they're not financially ready to have kids and they are not wrong.
Having kids when you can't take care of them is not a good thing to do, so instead of the Government rewarding families that give birth to children, they should find ways to create opportunities for the people, especially young people.

I believe underpopulation is not as big an issue as they make it seem.  Don't get me wrong, I know it's an issue but how many countries can show proof that the economy is slow because of underpopulation? Worst case scenario they open their borders for skilled immigrants.

Everyone who wants to have children is of course truly ready to care for and educate them well and if they are not yet able to care for them and educate them well then it would be better to postpone their desire to have children and continue to improve their financial situation so that they can have children and be able to educate him well. I think having a large population and not being able to produce anything will of course be an opportunity for skilled immigrants to be able to work in that area, so there needs to be an effort from the government to train people to be skilled at work, of course this will create economic growth in that area.

[slapper]

A close look at this situation shows that many of these overpopulated nations mostly in Africa and Asia are underdeveloped. While these underpopulated nations are economically buoyant. I think the reason for the poverty of these developing nations is not the population but bad governance and the inability to maximize and distribute available resources equally.  We cannot deny the fact that these overpopulated nations are economically important to these developed nations in terms of human resources. And they contribute immensely to the development of these first-world nations in terms of cheap labour.

Mismanagement is also a problem, causing welfare to fall far short of what society expects. A country that has abundant natural products should be able to get out of the poverty line and be able to make people live at a much more prosperous and sufficient level, especially if human resources are not properly trained to process the natural products they have themselves. In the end they look for workers from outside to do what the people in the country should be able to do and the local people actually become unemployed.

They can take workers from outside if the number of workers in their own country has decreased because there are many people who bet their luck in other countries to make money now. I think this problem will never become a burden for these countries because they can take shortcuts to overcome the decreasing number of workers in their countries.

The fact that nations rich in resources are nevertheless having difficulty providing basic necessities is both funny and depressing. Picture yourself in possession of a gold mine, but without the means or expertise to extract the precious metal. Indeed, it is what these nations are doing. It reminds me of how early Bitcoin critics also failed to recognise the currency's potential. They choose to go the "easy" road of outsourcing rather than investing in their own people. It's a sign of a failing economy if its residents are leaving in droves for other countries in search of better prospects


But relying on outsiders without investing in your own human capital is a dangerous game to play. It may be too late to fix things when these quick cuts eventually fail

[Spaceman1000$]

Population growth may be bad for nature and circumstances, but good for business. I mean in general population growth means more households, more customers for all their needs from small to large and to own a house or apartment and other needs and also an increase in population means an increase in the demand for goods and services.
However, if uncontrolled population growth will lead to poverty and unemployment, excessive exploitation of natural resources, overcrowded cities, pollution and so on.
but it all depends on the government because it's not an easy job for them but they have to be able to handle it from top to bottom.

I kind of agree with your line of thought, a high population if properly harnessed Will automatically lead to high productivity and efficiency.
Take a very good look at China, they are over a billion people, but they've been able to manage their economy properly, reducing crime and poverty, they one of the richest countries in the world with a high productive workforce.
There is hardly a country you will go today without seeing a Chinese company operating there. So population growth at some point is advantageous

On the other hand, population growth can be dangerous if not properly handled, like you rightly put it can lead to serious unemployment and poverty. Nations like that have a high percentage of crime rates and unproductive.

[DVlog]

Manpower is a strength for a country if most of them are not old people and kids. We saw a country with a huge landscape with no manpower. They have the land and resources but no manpower to use it. With proper management and great manpower, a country's economy can be boosted. Vietnam can be a great example of that. Look at Chinese companies working all over the world for infrastructure development and other mega projects.

[Bushdark]

Manpower is a strength for a country if most of them are not old people and kids. We saw a country with a huge landscape with no manpower. They have the land and resources but no manpower to use it. With proper management and great manpower, a country's economy can be boosted. Vietnam can be a great example of that. Look at Chinese companies working all over the world for infrastructure development and other mega projects.

The population of the world is increasing drastically and if something is not done, it is going to lead to over population which could lead to insufficient supply of food and amenities. We need to take up birth control make sure that we don't keep borning without having any plans for them. Population without advancement I'm technology of a country is a total waste of time. There is need for a country to develop there economy just like we are seeing I'm China right now. The economy advancement of China is growing faster and in the nearest future  it might be the large economy in the world with no competition.

[khiholangkang]

Manpower is a strength for a country if most of them are not old people and kids. We saw a country with a huge landscape with no manpower. They have the land and resources but no manpower to use it. With proper management and great manpower, a country's economy can be boosted. Vietnam can be a great example of that. Look at Chinese companies working all over the world for infrastructure development and other mega projects.

Labor will indeed have a big influence on opportunities for economic development but it must be directly proportional to their abilities, I think that a lot of labor but does not have the ability will never be effective, therefore there is a lack of utilization of available natural resources due to a lack of ability to process them, So the common thread in this case is that education and knowledge are needed so that abilities can be obtained in managing existing natural resources.

Many natural resources are actually utilized by foreigners rather than the country's own citizens. The quantity of labor but not having the quality will be very difficult which will have an impact on the results of what they do. What's great is that the Vietnamese and Chinese people really make their citizens have quite good qualities at work so that they can improve the economy.

[jossiel]

Manpower is a strength for a country if most of them are not old people and kids. We saw a country with a huge landscape with no manpower. They have the land and resources but no manpower to use it. With proper management and great manpower, a country's economy can be boosted. Vietnam can be a great example of that. Look at Chinese companies working all over the world for infrastructure development and other mega projects.

And this is a problem in Japan now.

Despite that they're a super country and one of the most advanced and high GDP globally, they're suffering this problem. Japanese people, most of them don't want to marry.

They just wanna get stuck into their jobs until they get old and no plans of getting married. AFAIK, it's the same in South Korea as well while the issue there is people find it expensive to raise kids.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

The population of the world is increasing drastically and if something is not done, it is going to lead to over population which could lead to insufficient supply of food and amenities. We need to take up birth control make sure that we don't keep borning without having any plans for them.

When it came to population control, I believe in what Elon musk has to say about it which is (population collapse due to low birth rates is a much bigger risk to civilization than global warming). While we think the world is getting overpopulated, we're neglecting the fact that the earth is capable of withstanding any population we humans can produced. There are so many lands that aren't occupied yet. We don't need birth control because popular is a economy strength instead of weakness. Looking at countries that's doing well has a lot of contributions from the population they have. Other nations with similar population are beginning to understand the strengthen they have in population like India also improving in their economical strength. Some countries in Africa are also begining to understand the strength they have in their population and with time they'll be able to utilized the man power they have and become a strong economical power nation.

Population without advancement I'm technology of a country is a total waste of time. There is need for a country to develop there economy just like we are seeing I'm China right now. The economy advancement of China is growing faster and in the nearest future  it might be the large economy in the world with no competition.

This is because they understood the power of population, China embraced their population and also technology advancement but other countries in the third world countries haven't embraced technological advancement like Nigeria that has the population but lack the technological advancement. The world is going digital and if your country isn't adopting technology it will be difficult for them to advance in the digital world. I don't see a reason why population will be a country weakness unless they're still leaving with the mindset of the stone age like most third world countries. If your countries get the technological equipment that the European countries have they'll be better than most countries that we think are world power because they will now have the national resources and the human power to utilize them.

[Smartvirus]

Some economists will argue that the reason for the underdevelopment of most countries is because of overpopulation. Hence they are advised to cut down the population through diverse means like birth control and so on. In other countries, economists are also predicting economic woes because of underpopulation. These nations have been advised to increase the birth rate through diverse means. Some nations are giving citizens diverse welfare packages to increase the number of children they have. Some are encouraging immigration to fill the gaps created by the labor shortages.

If we lay our focus on population, we might forget the common issue that is been shared by either the underdeveloped or developed nations here.
It’s almost impossible to have a balanced population in a nation as, nations are sure to take either side but, what is shared in common between either side having economic challenges is, production.

This is where the problem lies as it is the sole thing that boosts the economy of a people and in turn, state.
When a nation isn’t overly producing what it uses or consumes, it becomes an issue to their economic growth as, they tend to do more of import than export.
A producing state or nation is a rich nation and with good governance, it’s easy to have the state thrive but, the reverse is often the case with most leaders having selfish interest in seeking generational wealth and as such, makes life difficult for citizens.

[Dimitri94]

Over population can bring harm to a country and in some cases can play an important role for the development of that country. But what we need to emphasize is that the population of a country that is educated and work oriented who acquire technical skills will turn into wealth even if the population of the country is large. But if the population growth alone is not used in production or any other activity then the population growth of the country can have a fatal effect. In China, over population is encouraged. They have been able to transform their population into manpower. More population is considered as a tool for their development.

[coupable]

Excess population is mostly responsible for the underdevelopment of a country. As overpopulation is a major problem, the government has asked for some measures to be taken in taking children. According to the government, two children are enough.

I do not know if you mean a specific country in your statement, but I would like to answer you in general that countries such as China and India are not included in your conclusion. The increase in population can represent a tremendous force if the state's policy is able to contain the expanding population. Here I mean the ability to provide jobs through adopting free market policies that allow for job creation and increased rates of economic growth.
The population explosion in China is no longer a problem after the authorities were able to contain the matter, so that human energy became the state’s capital.
I would like to remind you that countries that suffer from an inflation in population do not suffer at the same time from population aging and always have a young group capable of more production and achievement.