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December 27, 2023, 08:17:43 AM
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And as always, a word or two about the economic success of the terrorist country Smiley

- Sales of men's clothing stopped growing in Russia after mobilization.  The Russian market of men's clothing fell into stagnation after the mobilization last autumn, when the authorities sent more than 300 thousand people to the front in Ukraine.

- The accelerated inflation is negating the growth of Russians' incomes, which the authorities present as one of the main indicators of their economic achievements. The first victims of rising prices are pensioners.

- Companies from China, Japan and France refused to finance a major LNG project in Russia due to sanctions. Foreign shareholders of Arctic LNG-2 have suspended their participation in the project and refused to fulfill their obligations to finance the plant, a government source told Kommersant.

- Visits by U.S. officials to the United Arab Emirates, which has become the largest hub for circumventing sanctions against Russia, did not go in vain.

UAE banks did not open accounts for Rosneft in the national currency - dirhams, which Russia's largest oil company planned to use for settlements with India, Reuters reports citing industry sources. According to them, Rosneft's subsidiary Sakhalin-1, which supplies Russian oil grade Sokol to Asia, failed to open an account in dirhams.

- Almost 60% of Russians have no savings for a rainy day, according to a survey of households' economic behavior conducted by the Higher School of Economics.

- Egg producers in the regions have started to prohibit price increases until after Putin's election.

By the way, for residents of normal countries, I will explain an interesting nuance - there is now a crisis in the availability of hen's eggs in Russia. All over the country. A country that, according to her, owns 40% of the world's resources Smiley But the "great geopolitician and leader of the Russians", explains the explosive rise in prices for eggs and their shortage on the market, you know what ? Smiley I'll tell you - "the standard of living of Russians has increased a lot, and they began to buy a lot of eggs, so the prices have risen" !  Grin Grin Grin Grin

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December 27, 2023, 09:16:43 AM
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Russia only weaponize this which of course is a strategy to win war that's why all countries needs to come together to discourage any form of war because at the end the weaklings suffers the most
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December 27, 2023, 02:00:03 PM
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The war between Ukraine and Russia is having a significant impact on the global food supply chain. This conflict has exacerbated the challenges of lower middle income countries as well as vulnerable communities already suffering from food insecurity. Which is a major cause of global concern. The agency warned that the impact of the conflict in Ukraine on food prices and supplies alone would reduce the number of malnourished people.

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December 27, 2023, 05:31:06 PM
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I think this kind of actions are unconventional and is illegal. Food and water  supply I think should not be targeted in time of a war but some countries weaponize this thing to pressure their enemies. The result of this is famine and will result into the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians and that is for me inhumane.



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December 28, 2023, 05:39:58 PM
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I think this kind of actions are unconventional and is illegal. Food and water  supply I think should not be targeted in time of a war but some countries weaponize this thing to pressure their enemies. The result of this is famine and will result into the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians and that is for me inhumane.

Don't forget - russia is a terrorist country. russia is the ideologue of world terrorism. Russia is a sponsor of world terrorism. It uses terrorism against its own people (bombings of apartment buildings in Russia, organized by the FSB), against its neighbors (Ichkeria, Moldova, Georgia, Ukraine,...), against countries that say they are terrorists, against all those who prevent them from terrorism. They are not limited by moral and ethical norms, obligations. Their word is an empty sound! A treaty signed by them is worthless paper.
They organized physical terror, they are organizing economic terror, they are organizing a famine of people who depend on grain supplies from Ukraine....

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December 28, 2023, 07:07:00 PM
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I think this kind of actions are unconventional and is illegal. Food and water  supply I think should not be targeted in time of a war but some countries weaponize this thing to pressure their enemies. The result of this is famine and will result into the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians and that is for me inhumane.
The food security and supply had been hindered by the war between Russia and Ukraine. The supply of grain and wheat had also been hindered by the war and I don't know why the world  is not talking about it. Also the ban of rice export by India is another problem the world need to look into because this is one of the things that can cause world war 3 if this issues is not resolved and this put into peaceful talk. There is need for the world to come into  agreement to ensure there is well concrete decisions on how to make sure that food supply is sufficient in the world.

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December 29, 2023, 07:21:46 AM
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I think this kind of actions are unconventional and is illegal. Food and water  supply I think should not be targeted in time of a war but some countries weaponize this thing to pressure their enemies. The result of this is famine and will result into the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians and that is for me inhumane.

War will of course result in various kinds of problems, economic crisis and humanitarian crisis. The food and water supply crisis will always be a problem in every area where nesting occurs, not only in Ukraine and Russia but is currently happening in Palestine. how can we see so many victims falling every day, not to mention the supply of food and medicine being hampered at the border because they haven't been able to get permission to enter? There are still many other problems affected by this war.

World food security will also definitely be affected by war, especially during the war between Russia and Ukraine. Regarding food security in the world, it is not only the impact of Russia's war on Ukraine but also the embargo carried out by NATO which is the cause of world food and economic security. because basically the economic embargo carried out by NATO is causing misery to the world community, especially civil society who don't know anything are victims of the economic embargo carried out by NATO.

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January 11, 2024, 02:56:54 AM
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The war in Ukraine and Russia had such an impact on the global food supply that it spelled disaster for the poor countries of the world. Due to the revenge of Ukraine and Russia, food shortages occur in almost all countries of the world due to not being able to supply food at the right time throughout the country. As a result, the price of food rises unexpectedly. Both Ukraine and Russia are major food producing countries. As a result of the war between these two countries, all systems of agricultural production were disrupted, disrupting food production, which had an impact on food prices. But now the food crisis is back to normal. But it was made possible by an agreement in 2003. This agreement made it possible to export food despite the war

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January 11, 2024, 07:14:25 PM
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It uses terrorism against its own people (bombings of apartment buildings in Russia, organized by the FSB),
Not sure where you got this info (probably in your dreams as always), but you were misinformed. You probably mean cruel attacks against civilians organized and performed by Ukrainian war criminals led by Zelensky.

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against its neighbors (Ichkeria, Moldova, Georgia, Ukraine,...), against countries that say they are terrorists, against all those who prevent them from terrorism.
100% lies as always. Ichkeria doesn't exist. It's not a real country, it was created by CIA in an attempt to destroy Russia. Chechnya is a part of Russia. Russia never attacked Moldova or occupy it's territory. Russia never occupied Georgia or annex it's territory. Ukraine is another CIA project to provoke/attack Russia. Another CIA project in Belarus failed in 2020-2021.

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They are not limited by moral and ethical norms, obligations. Their word is an empty sound! A treaty signed by them is worthless paper.
You should know better, Ukraine signed Minsk treaty (twice) and breached it by bombing it's own civilians, ethnic Russians in Donbas for 7 years! A true example of honor, chivalry, valor and honesty!  Grin Grin Grin  
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January 13, 2024, 10:13:31 PM
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Russians attack on Ukraine cannot tamper with food supply in the world. I cannot agree quite rightly with the data that as generalized.

No country is soly depending on Ukraine for food security. Although, it affects the people of Ukraine, the plan is to subject Ukraine into submission through hunger strikes.

Africans are sufficient in agricultural produces and we equally exports.
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January 14, 2024, 02:08:32 PM
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A couple of revealing news from “great Russia” Smiley
1. Chicken disappeared from stores in Russia: officials came up with a ridiculous excuse. In Russia, against the backdrop of sanctions, the economic system continues to collapse, one of the manifestations of which has recently become a periodic shortage of chicken in stores. To justify themselves, Russian retailers and officials are inventing ridiculous reasons why poultry meat has disappeared from the shelves.

Thus, residents of a number of regions of Russia – in particular, Yekaterinburg, Samara, Chelyabinsk and Ulyanovsk – faced a shortage of the most affordable meat. Russia's largest retail chain X5, which owns the Pyaterochka, Perekrestok and Chizhik store chains, blamed bad weather.
2. Prices for eggs in Russia increased by 61% over the year and continue to rise. Inflation for 2023 met official forecasts, but many goods have risen in price by tens of percent, Rosstat reported. Beyond competition are eggs, prices for which increased by 61.4% and continued to rise in the new year.

Eggs rose in price by 18.2% in December, and by 61.35% in just a year. They became a symbol of inflation; President Vladimir Putin had to apologize for the rise in prices. In his characteristic manner, he asked how Minister of Agriculture Dmitry Patrushev was doing with his eggs, and he promised to improve: “I felt that I needed to work better <...> I hope that in the near future, at the beginning of the year, the price should go down.”
Since January, the government has zeroed out import duties on eggs, and supplies have begun from Turkey and Azerbaijan.

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The war in Ukraine and Russia had such an impact on the global food supply that it spelled disaster for the poor countries of the world. Due to the revenge of Ukraine and Russia, food shortages occur in almost all countries of the world due to not being able to supply food at the right time throughout the country. As a result, the price of food rises unexpectedly. Both Ukraine and Russia are major food producing countries. As a result of the war between these two countries, all systems of agricultural production were disrupted, disrupting food production, which had an impact on food prices. But now the food crisis is back to normal. But it was made possible by an agreement in 2003. This agreement made it possible to export food despite the war
Apart from the food crisis, another concern is the gas and oil resource crisis, which is most affected by European countries and this triggers a global crisis, considering that raw materials are difficult to obtain and of course this causes the price of goods to become higher, on the other hand, Europe does not take sides in Ukraine, which makes this even more difficult, and of course European exports are hampered until finally most countries in the world feel this

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A couple of revealing news from “great Russia” Smiley
1. Chicken disappeared from stores in Russia: officials came up with a ridiculous excuse. In Russia, against the backdrop of sanctions, the economic system continues to collapse, one of the manifestations of which has recently become a periodic shortage of chicken in stores. To justify themselves, Russian retailers and officials are inventing ridiculous reasons why poultry meat has disappeared from the shelves.

Thus, residents of a number of regions of Russia – in particular, Yekaterinburg, Samara, Chelyabinsk and Ulyanovsk – faced a shortage of the most affordable meat. Russia's largest retail chain X5, which owns the Pyaterochka, Perekrestok and Chizhik store chains, blamed bad weather.
2. Prices for eggs in Russia increased by 61% over the year and continue to rise. Inflation for 2023 met official forecasts, but many goods have risen in price by tens of percent, Rosstat reported. Beyond competition are eggs, prices for which increased by 61.4% and continued to rise in the new year.

Eggs rose in price by 18.2% in December, and by 61.35% in just a year. They became a symbol of inflation; President Vladimir Putin had to apologize for the rise in prices. In his characteristic manner, he asked how Minister of Agriculture Dmitry Patrushev was doing with his eggs, and he promised to improve: “I felt that I needed to work better <...> I hope that in the near future, at the beginning of the year, the price should go down.”
Since January, the government has zeroed out import duties on eggs, and supplies have begun from Turkey and Azerbaijan.

Russia is a country that has defeated common sense Smiley

No sources again... probably seen it in your dreams as always?  Grin

Anyway, nice eye-opening article in New Your Times, some truth about situation in Ukraine. Here are some quotes of the key points:

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Ukrainians are weary, short of ammunition and outnumbered, and their prospects look bleak. “We can stop them for now, but who knows,” one soldier said. “Tomorrow or the next day, maybe we can’t stop them.”

Ukraine’s military prospects are looking bleak. Western military aid is no longer assured at the same levels as years past. Ukraine’s summer counteroffensive in the south, where Jaeger was wounded days after it began, is over, having failed to meet any of its objectives.

And now, Russian troops are on the attack, especially in the country’s east. The town of Marinka has all but fallen. Avdiivka is being slowly encircled. A push on Chasiv Yar, near Bakhmut, is expected. Farther north, outside Kupiansk, the fighting has barely slowed since the fall.

For now, Ukraine is in a perilous position. The problems afflicting its military have been exacerbated since the summer. Ukrainian soldiers are exhausted by long stretches of combat and shorter rest periods. The ranks, thinned by mounting casualties, are only being partly replenished, often with older and poorly trained recruits.

One Ukrainian soldier, part of a brigade tasked with holding the line southwest of Avdiivka, pointed to a video he took during training recently. The instructors, trying to stifle their laughs, were forced to hold up the man, who was in his mid-50s, just so he could fire his rifle. The man was crippled from alcoholism, said the soldier, insisting on anonymity to candidly describe a private training episode.

Three out of ten soldiers who show up are no better than drunks who fell asleep and woke up in uniform,” he said, referring to the new recruits who arrive at his brigade.

Kyiv’s recruiting strategy has been plagued by overly aggressive tactics and more widespread attempts to dodge the draft. Efforts to rectify the problem have spawned a political argument between the military and civilian leadership.

Military officials reinforce the need for wider mobilization to win the war, but the office of President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine is apprehensive about introducing unpopular changes that could end with a drive to mobilize 500,000 new soldiers. That number, analysts say, takes into account Ukraine’s staggering losses and what is likely needed to push back the Russians.

While Ukrainian casualties remain a closely guarded secret, U.S. officials over the summer estimated deaths and injuries to be well over 150,000.

“We’re tired,” a Ukrainian platoon commander said, speaking anonymously given the sensitivity of his comments. “We could always use more people.”

The shortage of troops is only one part of the problem. The other and currently more pressing issue is Ukraine’s dwindling ammunition reserves as continued Western supplies remain anything but certain. Ukrainian commanders now have to ration their ammunition, not knowing whether every new shipment might be their last.

Only when a truck carrying two artillery shells arrived could the crew get to work for the first time in days. They quickly loaded the shells and fired toward Russian soldiers attacking Ukrainian positions three miles away.

Today we had two shells, but some days we don’t have any in these positions,” said the crew’s commander, who goes by the call sign Monk. “The last time we fired was four days ago, and that was only five shells.”

The shortage of ammunition — and the shifting battlefield momentum — means the gunners are no longer supporting Ukrainian attacks. Instead, they only fire when Russian troops are storming Ukrainian trenches.

“We can stop them for now, but who knows,” Monk said. “Tomorrow or the next day, maybe we can’t stop them. It’s a really big problem for us.”

Near Kupiansk, a deputy battalion commander from the 68th Brigade, who goes by the call sign Italian, echoed Monk’s concerns.

I have two tanks, but only five shells,” said Italian, as he walked through a denuded tree line splintered by shelling about 500 yards from Russian positions in the Luhansk region. “It’s a bad situation now, especially in Avdiivka and Kupiansk.”

This ammunition imbalance has been felt across much of the more than 600-mile front line, Ukrainian soldiers said. The Russian units are in a position similar to the summer of 2022, where they can simply wear down a Ukrainian position until Kyiv’s forces run out of ordnance. But unlike that summer, there is no longer a frantic scramble in Western capitals to arm and re-equip Ukraine’s troops.

Outside Avdiivka, where Russian forces are concentrating much of their forces in the east, the rumble of artillery on one recent afternoon was almost nonstop. It was a soundtrack not heard since the war’s earlier months, when Russian paramilitary forces assaulted Bakhmut, eventually capturing it.

Washington’s suggestion for Ukraine to go on the defensive in 2024 will mean little if Kyiv does not have the ammunition or people to defend what territory it currently holds, analysts have said.

Our guys are getting pounded heavily,” said Bardak, a Ukrainian soldier working alongside Jaeger next to the derelict tank. “It’s hot all over
now.”

Source: Russia Regains Upper Hand in Ukraine’s East as Kyiv’s Troops Struggle  (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html).

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Ichkeria doesn't exist. It's not a real country, it was created by CIA in an attempt to destroy Russia. Chechnya is a part of Russia. Russia never attacked Moldova or occupy it's territory. Russia never occupied Georgia or annex it's territory. Ukraine is another CIA project to provoke/attack Russia. Another CIA project in Belarus failed in 2020-2021.
Russia's policy has always been distinguished by the fact that they tried to subjugate and humiliate neighboring peoples, using intimidation, blackmail and brute force. But all authoritarian states that rely on coercive power end up equally bad.
All nations and nationalities have the right to exist and develop their culture and identity. The fact that the Kremlin denies the existence of Chechens, Ukrainians, Moldovans and their right to statehood, declaring that there are no such nations and therefore their states cannot exist, is their problem. The Republic of Ichkeria will still be revived, and the Russians will not be able to capture Ukraine, and Georgia and Moldova will expel the Russian occupiers from their territories.

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You also retell the touching propaganda tale about "28 Panfilovtsy" and how the USSR did not start the Second World War, but was its victim - the level of nonsense will be commensurate. You are the perfect heir of Soviet fans of fictitious victories ! Smiley
How are the A50, IL22, IL67 and why does a victorious country build air defense rings around St. Petersburg and Moscow ? Smiley

Dialogue with a person from real, fictional reality is over. Let's move on to real events:
1. As you have all noticed, after the rashist regime of Russia received a blow to the face, and was forced to withdraw its fleet to the eastern coast of the Black Sea, in the UN sharply disappeared squeals of pocket dogs of the Kremlin, that only Russia can save the world from hunger. No one is suffering anymore, there is no shortage of grain. But there is a cornered Russian Black Sea fleet. Or rather its miserable remnants Smiley
2 And some statistics from Rosstat Smiley
The cost of ritual services and goods has risen sharply in Russia against the background of the war with Ukraine, which brought the army record losses since the Second World War.
In 2022-23, the average price of coffin making in the country jumped 22.2%, according to statistics from Rosstat. In the first year of the war, coffins went up by 15.82%, and last year by another 5.55%.
https://fedstat.ru/indicator/31074
Perhaps the best indirect indicator of "economic stability" and "victories".
I'm sure this data will be classified soon too Smiley

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January 26, 2024, 03:14:35 PM
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Apart from the food crisis, another concern is the gas and oil resource crisis, which is most affected by European countries and this triggers a global crisis, considering that raw materials are difficult to obtain and of course this causes the price of goods to become higher, on the other hand, Europe does not take sides in Ukraine, which makes this even more difficult, and of course European exports are hampered until finally most countries in the world feel this

If it was only about the partiality of several European countries towards Ukraine, of course the top officials of European countries would make decisions that would not harm each other. In order not to experience difficulties from various sectors such as the food and gas and oil crises which in general are always needed by all countries in the world.

Now all countries must have strong diplomatic relations with several other countries, although not with all countries, so that any difficulties can definitely be handled well as long as certain countries do not make such ridiculous mistakes. Especially if this could create several crises in the important sectors that they use every day, both for consumption and for use in other important production within the country.

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Ukrainians are weary, short of ammunition and outnumbered, and their prospects look bleak. “We can stop them for now, but who knows,” one soldier said. “Tomorrow or the next day, maybe we can’t stop them.”

Source: Russia Regains Upper Hand in Ukraine’s East as Kyiv’s Troops Struggle  (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html).
This is only going to get worse.
It started being the result of NATO weapons storages getting empty and their manufacturers not being able to meet the demand then it got worse as the weapons that were supposed to be sent to Ukraine for defense were sent to the Zionist regime to be used for genocide.
In the near future if the speculation about what the Coalition of Terror (US+UK+some microscopic countries) is about to do comes true (in short it has to do with Yemen) things would become a hundred times worse for Ukraine! Dare I say a complete occupation by the end of 2024?

P.S. It's not just weapons, it is troops (NATO commanders leading the Armed Forces of Ukraine + militia including ISIS terrorists that are efficient in fighting inside city ruins + mercenaries etc.), logistical support, intelligence support, other supplies, etc. it's all being pulled out of Ukraine heading to West Asia...

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Russians attack on Ukraine cannot tamper with food supply in the world. I cannot agree quite rightly with the data that as generalized.

No country is soly depending on Ukraine for food security. Although, it affects the people of Ukraine, the plan is to subject Ukraine into submission through hunger strikes.

Africans are sufficient in agricultural produces and we equally exports.

Russians baseless attack on Ukraine did in fact disrupt the flow of food supply in the world. Ukraine is said to be the breadbasket of Europe. If you had done a little research, it would be clear to you in just a few clicks, just how grains from Ukraine feeds the world.
It’s literally suicide if a country solely depends on another country for food but it hasn’t stopped a good number of countries from largely relying on other countries like Ukraine for a good portion of their food supply.

Africa would seem sufficient in agricultural produce but it still imports a shit load of agricultural products as well with Ukraine being a good supplier of wheats and grains.
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Russians attack on Ukraine cannot tamper with food supply in the world. I cannot agree quite rightly with the data that as generalized.

No country is soly depending on Ukraine for food security. Although, it affects the people of Ukraine, the plan is to subject Ukraine into submission through hunger strikes.

Africans are sufficient in agricultural produces and we equally exports.

Russians baseless attack on Ukraine did in fact disrupt the flow of food supply in the world. Ukraine is said to be the breadbasket of Europe. If you had done a little research, it would be clear to you in just a few clicks, just how grains from Ukraine feeds the world.
It’s literally suicide if a country solely depends on another country for food but it hasn’t stopped a good number of countries from largely relying on other countries like Ukraine for a good portion of their food supply.

Africa would seem sufficient in agricultural produce but it still imports a shit load of agricultural products as well with Ukraine being a good supplier of wheats and grains.
Countries like Ukraine will continue to feed the world with agricultural products, as it has the largest reserves of black soil in the world. Chernozem occupies 44% of the territory of this country. Ukraine, which occupies 0.4% of the earth's landmass, contains about 27% of the world's black soil reserves. Translated into hectares of area, chernozems cover an area of 60.4 million hectares, of which almost 42 million hectares (about 69%) are farmland. Moreover, 78% of farmland is arable land.
Experts say that Ukraine can provide adequate nutrition to approximately 500 million people. This is largely facilitated by climatic conditions: fairly mild winters (average temperatures in different regions range from -4°C to -12°C), moderately warm summers (from +18°C to +25°C) and about 230 sunny days. days a year create almost ideal conditions for growing all major crops.

No matter how hard other states try to significantly increase agricultural productivity, if their land is not fertile enough, they will not succeed.
One of the reasons for Russia's current attack on Ukraine is the seizure of its black soil.

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Oh, you're still here? Why is that? You have to fight for your Motherland in Donbas! For such a great patriot like yourself, it's your #1 duty! Too afraid?

You also retell the touching propaganda tale about "28 Panfilovtsy" and how the USSR did not start the Second World War, but was its victim - the level of nonsense will be commensurate. You are the perfect heir of Soviet fans of fictitious victories ! Smiley
Oh, the USSR started the WW2? Mmmkay... your should check your mental health ASAP.  Grin What is the next BS you're saying? Hitler was a good guy in fact?  Grin

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How are the A50, IL22, IL67 and why does a victorious country build air defense rings around St. Petersburg and Moscow ? Smiley
Oh, I'm glad you mentioned that IL67 plane. For those who are not aware, it's the story of the glorious AFU downing the plane carrying UKRAINIAN prisoners of war!  Grin Grin Grin
Your military are really good at recycling your own citizens and troops. You'ŗe doing it at record rate! Should receive some award or medal from Putin for that!  Grin

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Dialogue with a person from real, fictional reality is over. Let's move on to real events:
1. As you have all noticed, after the rashist regime of Russia received a blow to the face, and was forced to withdraw its fleet to the eastern coast of the Black Sea, in the UN sharply disappeared squeals of pocket dogs of the Kremlin, that only Russia can save the world from hunger. No one is suffering anymore, there is no shortage of grain. But there is a cornered Russian Black Sea fleet. Or rather its miserable remnants Smiley
2 And some statistics from Rosstat Smiley
The cost of ritual services and goods has risen sharply in Russia against the background of the war with Ukraine, which brought the army record losses since the Second World War.
In 2022-23, the average price of coffin making in the country jumped 22.2%, according to statistics from Rosstat. In the first year of the war, coffins went up by 15.82%, and last year by another 5.55%.
https://fedstat.ru/indicator/31074
Perhaps the best indirect indicator of "economic stability" and "victories".
I'm sure this data will be classified soon too Smiley
Your link to the "source" doesn't work (as always) so I presume just another "facts" you saw in your dream?  Grin
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