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July 21, 2023, 08:30:05 PM
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        -    Even in our news I have never seen such a scenario where you only deposit a small amount and then boom! the gambler won the jackpot. Because the only ones I hear about are those who won millions of dollars and then the money was released until the account of the person who won a large amount was suddenly blocked.

because when I started gambling the first day I gambled I won 145$ while I only deposited 20$ and I didn't have any problem with withdrawal even without Kyc.

There are ,many gambler that are able to withdraw their fund even if their winnings are huge.  Casinos like Duelbits, Stake, Bitcasino, Gamdom and many other reputable casino platform are able to approve their players withdrawal request even if they won huge amount of money.  Those who were blocked or suspended are accounts that are coincidentally have the same IP or have questionable incidents that trigger the site's security making the casino to implement KYC requirements.
Yes, I have seen someone that withdraws almost $100k from a stake sometime ago and that made me to understand that the limit withdrawal set on most accounts is $5k maximum without KYC but in rear cases, the casino can still allow for huge withdrawals without KYC.

And also some time stake can ask for KYC for a small amount and that ball us down to the fact that it doesn't necessarily need to be the amount of withdrawal but also the activities of the players are also monitored and used to act when and how it necessary.
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July 21, 2023, 08:41:13 PM
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anyone deposited very less amount and luckily won a big jackpot like a 100x or 500x or 1000x of base bet and withdrawn without kyc or without facing any problem from the platform?

if yes, how much was that amount? and what was the exchange?

i seen many people complaining about they don't give big wins easily or just don't give by making unanswerable queries like very hard KYC, freezing accounts, etc. this problem is very common with trusted casino's also/

do anyone withdrawn successfully the winning amount and if yes what was the process, it was seamless or you need to pass a hard kyc?

I have won over 2000 USD or so without any problems or issues from the side of the casino. My deposit was tiny compared to it but I could still easily withdraw my winnings with no issues. But what you should realize is that those winnings were a mere 2k. From the perspective of the gambling casino, they make such amounts in profits every few minutes, if not even seconds. So they would not care all too much about it, I think.

Perhaps there are issues when larger amounts are won. Like 10k+ or 100k+ USD.

Here in the forums we do now and again see such amounts being gambled and frozen, on withdrawal until KYC is completed. And sometimes the KYC procedure takes a very long time so people come here on Bitcointalk to complain. But usually these matters are resolved like 90% of the time without further issues.

Such are the problems of centralized platforms. I believe they will slowly disappear in the coming near future and become replaced by decentralised, trustless platforms which cannot be regulated by a small group of people as they wish.... Cheesy

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July 21, 2023, 08:47:14 PM
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anyone deposited very less amount and luckily won a big jackpot like a 100x or 500x or 1000x of base bet and withdrawn without kyc or without facing any problem from the platform?

if yes, how much was that amount? and what was the exchange?

i seen many people complaining about they don't give big wins easily or just don't give by making unanswerable queries like very hard KYC, freezing accounts, etc. this problem is very common with trusted casino's also/

do anyone withdrawn successfully the winning amount and if yes what was the process, it was seamless or you need to pass a hard kyc?

I have not been lucky to won a jackpot or something with very tiny deposit but here i would like to ask a few questions on your observation.

Why gamblers complain that they are unable to complete or verify the KYC after they have won a big amount. Shouldn't they know that casino will not allow them to withdraw without the KYC so why not do the KYC when you register and deposit on the gambling site ?

Secondly why gamblers do not like to do the KYC and want to cash out with KYC ? They should mentally prepare themselves that there is no gambling without the KYC.

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July 21, 2023, 09:06:48 PM
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anyone deposited very less amount and luckily won a big jackpot like a 100x or 500x or 1000x of base bet and withdrawn without kyc or without facing any problem from the platform?

if yes, how much was that amount? and what was the exchange?

i seen many people complaining about they don't give big wins easily or just don't give by making unanswerable queries like very hard KYC, freezing accounts, etc. this problem is very common with trusted casino's also/

do anyone withdrawn successfully the winning amount and if yes what was the process, it was seamless or you need to pass a hard kyc?

Not that big amount for me, but I have to met the wagering requirement so I can't withdraw right away. So the worst thing I do is play again and again, until I've lost the big money that I won.

I just deposited small amount though, so no regrets for me. I was just frustrated that I can't withdraw my winnings so I went YOLO. I was already KYC so no problem for me, it's just the requirements that become a major issue for me and I guess one time or another, majority of the gamblers here, have experienced that scenario.

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July 21, 2023, 09:47:49 PM
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anyone deposited very less amount and luckily won a big jackpot like a 100x or 500x or 1000x of base bet and withdrawn without kyc or without facing any problem from the platform?

if yes, how much was that amount? and what was the exchange?

i seen many people complaining about they don't give big wins easily or just don't give by making unanswerable queries like very hard KYC, freezing accounts, etc. this problem is very common with trusted casino's also/

do anyone withdrawn successfully the winning amount and if yes what was the process, it was seamless or you need to pass a hard kyc?

I have not been lucky to won a jackpot or something with very tiny deposit but here i would like to ask a few questions on your observation.

Why gamblers complain that they are unable to complete or verify the KYC after they have won a big amount. Shouldn't they know that casino will not allow them to withdraw without the KYC so why not do the KYC when you register and deposit on the gambling site ?

Secondly why gamblers do not like to do the KYC and want to cash out with KYC ? They should mentally prepare themselves that there is no gambling without the KYC.


What I think is that things when it comes to stealing from a casino are delicate, there is always a way for the money to stay at home, sometimes the kyc usually takes a long time because they have to check it, but they also have to search and investigate if that money is part of money laundering or something like that, I think that all these things are what they have to verify in every casino, that's why sometimes it can take a while, people also bother to do a kyc because for each thing Giving identification is something delicate, I don't really like to comply with that, because later it is data that can be leaked and it is something very dangerous.

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July 21, 2023, 10:24:17 PM
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Yes, you are right. It's not about how much you won but rather about how you won it.
If you are a loyal customer and the casino knows that your winnings are legitimate, they will never block your withdrawals. They will approve them instantly because they know you won it without cheating. However, if you are a new customer and make a big win, they will have some suspicions and they will need some time to verify how you managed to make such a big win.

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July 22, 2023, 01:31:23 AM
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What I think is that things when it comes to stealing from a casino are delicate, there is always a way for the money to stay at home, sometimes the kyc usually takes a long time because they have to check it, but they also have to search and investigate if that money is part of money laundering or something like that, I think that all these things are what they have to verify in every casino, that's why sometimes it can take a while, people also bother to do a kyc because for each thing Giving identification is something delicate, I don't really like to comply with that, because later it is data that can be leaked and it is something very dangerous.

Yea, I believe that the majority of people who knows that KYC is not really good, would not be happy to carry out KYC, but mahn... when your money, a huge amount of money, is stuck somewhere, you will definitely do anything possible to make sure you have access to your money. Imagine if you win $100,000 for the first time and you can't access the money until you pass KYC, and you don't like KYCs. I bet you will just carry on with the KYC.

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July 22, 2023, 01:52:15 AM
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anyone deposited very less amount and luckily won a big jackpot like a 100x or 500x or 1000x of base bet and withdrawn without kyc or without facing any problem from the platform?

if yes, how much was that amount? and what was the exchange?

i seen many people complaining about they don't give big wins easily or just don't give by making unanswerable queries like very hard KYC, freezing accounts, etc. this problem is very common with trusted casino's also/

do anyone withdrawn successfully the winning amount and if yes what was the process, it was seamless or you need to pass a hard kyc?

Well, I have won many times 100x to 200x in crash, but the value was pretty low because I used to wage only $0.01 and that's why 200x would make me just $2, and I don't think that any casino would ask for KYC to withdraw that little amount of money. I have done withdrawal to test the platform and there wasn't any issue at all.

The withdrawal in my case doesn't required any kind of KYC, however if the wage amount would be $10 or more than the casino would probably require some kind of KYC to allow withdrawals. The KYC is a necessary step to confirm the genuinity of a user and that's why each casino needs it to confirm that the user is a real user and is not operated by someone without citizenship of a country.


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i seen many people complaining about they don't give big wins easily or just don't give by making unanswerable queries like very hard KYC, freezing accounts, etc. this problem is very common with trusted casino's also/

do anyone withdrawn successfully the winning amount and if yes what was the process, it was seamless or you need to pass a hard kyc?
I never heard this case for the old member with a high rank. But I often to see cases like this on scam accusations boards created by newbies or brand-new accounts. This phenomenon often happens here for some reason, I don't know exactly but it will always end with straightforward and correct statements by Casino. Sometimes their sue it doesn't make sense, and their excuses are sometimes made up with the purpose us believing them. So slightly oriented if the case they made for spoil name a good casino.

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anyone deposited very less amount and luckily won a big jackpot like a 100x or 500x or 1000x of base bet and withdrawn without kyc or without facing any problem from the platform?

if yes, how much was that amount? and what was the exchange?

i seen many people complaining about they don't give big wins easily or just don't give by making unanswerable queries like very hard KYC, freezing accounts, etc. this problem is very common with trusted casino's also/

do anyone withdrawn successfully the winning amount and if yes what was the process, it was seamless or you need to pass a hard kyc?

Yes, before I won a x999 on a Php 5 bet (around $0.01). I can't remember the deposit amount but it's not that much. I am able to smoothly withdraw it without any problem or being asked for KYC. Anyways, I don't think it's about the multipliers but rather the specific big amount. In my case, even if that's an x999 winning, the amount won't surely trigger the alarm.

Simply, if you are worried about KYC stuff, then always consider playing only at reputable gambling and comply with their KYC if necessary.

Anyways, you don't really need to be worried about that if you are in a reputabel casino but rather hope first that you will win such big multipliers. Smiley

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What I think is that things when it comes to stealing from a casino are delicate, there is always a way for the money to stay at home, sometimes the kyc usually takes a long time because they have to check it, but they also have to search and investigate if that money is part of money laundering or something like that, I think that all these things are what they have to verify in every casino, that's why sometimes it can take a while, people also bother to do a kyc because for each thing Giving identification is something delicate, I don't really like to comply with that, because later it is data that can be leaked and it is something very dangerous.

Even though KYC has always been considered something that is unpleasant and quite risky because when our personal data has been exposed online even though it is at a trusted online casino there is still the possibility of leaking, but now KYC is almost difficult to avoid, maybe players can ignore KYC when the money held at the casino is not too large but when the amount is above thousands of dollars I'm sure there will be lots of people who choose to comply with KYC so that money can be withdrawn from the casino and also do KYC or not will really depend on each individual's views. The way that you don't do KYC often is to be loyal to only one casino because when you move frequently, you will always face KYC, because now online casinos will require KYC to comply with the rules of the license where they are registered.

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July 22, 2023, 04:13:52 AM
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anyone deposited very less amount and luckily won a big jackpot like a 100x or 500x or 1000x of base bet and withdrawn without kyc or without facing any problem from the platform?

if yes, how much was that amount? and what was the exchange?

i seen many people complaining about they don't give big wins easily or just don't give by making unanswerable queries like very hard KYC, freezing accounts, etc. this problem is very common with trusted casino's also/

do anyone withdrawn successfully the winning amount and if yes what was the process, it was seamless or you need to pass a hard kyc?

If that gambler already deposited a large amount to the casino and continuously playing for sure they have a good record that might not tag as suspicious to the gambling casino so they don't need to seek a KYC on that, in another part is if you are a newly created account make a deposit and manage to win a large profit to the casino and would like to have an instance withdrawal that's the chance that they will seek you a KYC and the activity can be suspicious already in some point still there's an investigation with that if the player cannot comply all the information given might freeze the funds or account towards not getting the wins. Before I win too a large amount just around 400 dollars and call for a day by the way I'm active gambler that time so there's no issue with withdrawal.

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In an event like this, The casino will immediately think that you cheated them. They will lock your account and ask for KYC and that’s a natural first reaction. You would the same if you were in their shoes. If it is non-KYC/instant-withdraw casino we are talking about, then it is a whole different story because these casinos know that you can’t really cheat them in any way. They trust their code so you can win and leave right away and nobody will stop you.

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July 22, 2023, 05:25:32 AM
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In an event like this, The casino will immediately think that you cheated them. They will lock your account and ask for KYC and that’s a natural first reaction. You would the same if you were in their shoes. If it is non-KYC/instant-withdraw casino we are talking about, then it is a whole different story because these casinos know that you can’t really cheat them in any way. They trust their code so you can win and leave right away and nobody will stop you.
Yes, any suspicious actions will definitely be handled immediately by the casino, whether freezing the account or asking for KYC verification because the casino also doesn't want to be at a loss.
If we don't feel we have made a mistake, it is better to give what is requested by the casino so that we can avoid prolonged problems and also we can play comfortably and calmly.
Even so, there are not a few gamblers who try to deceive casinos, so it's only natural that casinos always suspect and track every action they feel can be detrimental.

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July 22, 2023, 07:36:49 AM
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In an event like this, The casino will immediately think that you cheated them. They will lock your account and ask for KYC and that’s a natural first reaction. You would the same if you were in their shoes. If it is non-KYC/instant-withdraw casino we are talking about, then it is a whole different story because these casinos know that you can’t really cheat them in any way. They trust their code so you can win and leave right away and nobody will stop you.
Locking your account is something the casino will do easily, especially if you have committed fraud and are known by the casino. If their winnings aren't huge and the casino is a non-KYC/instant withdrawal casino, they won't hinder those who want to withdraw their winnings. But if the user is proven to be cheating, even if it is a non-KYC casino, the casino may ask you to do KYC before processing your withdrawal. We must remember that casinos can easily check the account of every gambler present on their site so don't try to cheat the casino because they will find out.

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July 22, 2023, 07:46:07 AM
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In an event like this, The casino will immediately think that you cheated them. They will lock your account and ask for KYC and that’s a natural first reaction. You would the same if you were in their shoes. If it is non-KYC/instant-withdraw casino we are talking about, then it is a whole different story because these casinos know that you can’t really cheat them in any way. They trust their code so you can win and leave right away and nobody will stop you.
usually it will happen if there is something fishy and the system detects that there is no cheating done by the user until all withdrawal processes are done usually the casino will ask the user to complete KYC to ensure that all the money withdrawn is an honest win, but for casinos without KYC there will be no problem withdrawing money at any time.

talking about KYC mostly only done by small casinos who ask gamblers to complete KYC for reasons that are not very clear where casinos don't want gamblers to withdraw their money from the casino and freeze their accounts, usually because winning big money from the casino then withholds all the winning money along with the capital so it's difficult to win big money in small casinos let alone cheat the casino itself.

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July 22, 2023, 10:01:38 AM
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 many online casinos lately have made it compulsory for users to be kyced upon registration or after registration and most times failure to comply makes it difficult for users to make withdrawals especially when they win huge sum of money.
 I've happened to use 500 In my local currency before to win about 200k and was able to make withdrawals easily without asking for a wager or being kyced, though it happens bur it depends of the casino or online gaining site, the thing is this casino want you to lose and enrich themselves so when you're lucky enough to use little funds to win ×500 of profits they'll look for every possible means to get back such amount of money from you either by asking you to wager and be unfortunate to lose some of your winnings to them or ask for frustrating requirements for kyc and proof of ownership of documents, some would even go to the extent of demanding that you provide utility bills or statements of transaction.
 Most times the online casino lock users acount when the discovery fraudulent activities from a bank  account used in depositing funds into a users account. Because some individuals use online gambling sites as a means of saving funds gotten from fraudulent acts.

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July 22, 2023, 01:29:24 PM
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Yes, you are right. It's not about how much you won but rather about how you won it.
If you are a loyal customer and the casino knows that your winnings are legitimate, they will never block your withdrawals. They will approve them instantly because they know you won it without cheating. However, if you are a new customer and make a big win, they will have some suspicions and they will need some time to verify how you managed to make such a big win.

      -    You're right there, because in my experience it hasn't really been a problem. or maybe it also depends on the game provider you played with. Because I'm the one who often plays, most gamblers also play often.

Then I usually play slot games, rarely baccarat every now and then. Then it also depends on the casino we will play at, because if it has been known for a long time in the gambling industry of crypto, it is for sure that if it is good and you have not done anything against their rules, you will be able to withdraw your winnings without any problem.


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July 22, 2023, 01:37:10 PM
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In an event like this, The casino will immediately think that you cheated them. They will lock your account and ask for KYC and that’s a natural first reaction. You would the same if you were in their shoes. If it is non-KYC/instant-withdraw casino we are talking about, then it is a whole different story because these casinos know that you can’t really cheat them in any way. They trust their code so you can win and leave right away and nobody will stop you.
Locking your account is something the casino will do easily, especially if you have committed fraud and are known by the casino. If their winnings aren't huge and the casino is a non-KYC/instant withdrawal casino, they won't hinder those who want to withdraw their winnings. But if the user is proven to be cheating, even if it is a non-KYC casino, the casino may ask you to do KYC before processing your withdrawal. We must remember that casinos can easily check the account of every gambler present on their site so don't try to cheat the casino because they will find out.
If a gambler is caught cheating, I think it's not necessary for them to undergo a KYC process. The casino can simply close the account and forfeit the balance. As gamblers, we are well aware that if we cheat, we cannot hold the casino accountable for doing the right thing. KYC should only be associated with requirements mandated by the regulators and not with cheating cases.

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July 22, 2023, 08:19:30 PM
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do anyone withdrawn successfully the winning amount and if yes what was the process, it was seamless or you need to pass a hard kyc?

I have deposited small amount and won big amount then withdraw without much challenges but that was before all casinos are now requesting for KYC. Casinos aren't as fun as they were when you're not force to pass KYC and you can gamble as much as you want.

Today just for small wins, I have to pass KYC or sometimes you have to pass the KYC before you can bet on the casinos, all this regulations are taking the fun out of gambling. No casino would want to force their players to complete KYC if they weren't been forced by the fed.

The government are trying to control everything and they're focusing more on cryptocurency and platforms that uses them like casino and sportsbook. They want people not be comfortable using them so they stop getting customer and making profits to kill the platforms.

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