Casinos Should Also Be Prepared For Health Emergencies

[passwordnow]

Both were wrong, the victim shouldn't go somewhere else where his family can't watch him when he's aware that when he's attacked by his sickness, no one will be able to help and watch him out. And when the guy was attacked by that disease, the dealer just continued to do his thing? Where's the humanity and being concerned on that part? Yes, the show(job) must go on but how can that dealer attained to just see it around when the guy was being attacked and it's obvious by that time that he's struggling, right? Instead of calling for help, yet he continued to deal.

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[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

Both were wrong, the victim shouldn't go somewhere else where his family can't watch him when he's aware that when he's attacked by his sickness, no one will be able to help and watch him out. And when the guy was attacked by that disease, the dealer just continued to do his thing? Where's the humanity and being concerned on that part? Yes, the show(job) must go on but how can that dealer attained to just see it around when the guy was being attacked and it's obvious by that time that he's struggling, right? Instead of calling for help, yet he continued to deal.

It depends on the kind of health condition that is involved in this kind of condition, you can't expect someone who is having a critical health condition to go out in the first place to gamble, and for those in the category of a manageable conditions, if the situation worsen when they go out, they would rather be transferred to the hospital than being taken care of in the casino, casino is not a place we should expect health treatment because it will require professionalism to attend to a patient when the medical practitioners are not present.

[Hispo]

Both were wrong, the victim shouldn't go somewhere else where his family can't watch him when he's aware that when he's attacked by his sickness, no one will be able to help and watch him out. And when the guy was attacked by that disease, the dealer just continued to do his thing? Where's the humanity and being concerned on that part? Yes, the show(job) must go on but how can that dealer attained to just see it around when the guy was being attacked and it's obvious by that time that he's struggling, right? Instead of calling for help, yet he continued to deal.

It is part of the sensitiveness one can observe in big cities and in this part of the world.
There are several reasons the casino worker may not feel prompted to help the man, he could have thought he was drunk or under the effect of those drugs people may consume when engage in gambling, instead suffering a cardiac arrest. Even if he was not sure what was going on, there are casinos and businesses in general in the United States which are very tight when comes to efficiency and work time of their employees, we could argue there is a chance that guy was under pressure to keep his job and chose not to interrupt his shift, for the sake of not making things more difficult in the eyes of his boss.

Ironically, because all this situation ended up with a lawsuit, it could have completely backfire on the casino and that particular employee.  

[dothebeats]

Both were wrong, the victim shouldn't go somewhere else where his family can't watch him when he's aware that when he's attacked by his sickness, no one will be able to help and watch him out. And when the guy was attacked by that disease, the dealer just continued to do his thing? Where's the humanity and being concerned on that part? Yes, the show(job) must go on but how can that dealer attained to just see it around when the guy was being attacked and it's obvious by that time that he's struggling, right? Instead of calling for help, yet he continued to deal.

That's like limiting the life of the person and I'm not for it. There are better ways to handle this and that's not restricting the person to do as he pleases. It should be common knowledge that huge establishments have at least 1 onsite doctor and nurses available any time that are ready for these emergencies. Unfortunately, it's not the medical professionals that made the ultimate mistake, but the dealer who didn't even bat an eye on the man lying awkwardly by the table.

[goinmerry]

This happened in 2022 and although I do not know the outcome of the court case, my thoughts are that the discussion about casinos should go beyond security measures to cover how prepared they are in the event of a health emergency . I think that well-equipped First Aid Kit and trained paramedical staff could significantly contribute to ensuring the safety and well-being of casino patrons. Although casinos are primarily places where people go for entertainment and profit, the operators should put in place health emergency measures could potentially mitigate the impact of unforeseen events. On the other hand, I would argue that the family of the deceased is trying to obtain money from the casino. Do you think the casino is to be blamed?

If I'm not mistaken most physical casinos do have their respective medical staff on their premises.

I believe it's already standard and mandatory for physical casinos to have medical teams that can be deployed right away in case of an emergency inside the casino hall. Part of having a license to operate is to have the same for other establishments. It's like a standard protocol for any establishment regardless of the business type, genre, and industry.

About the question if casinos can be blamed for that unfortunate incident, no. They didn't force the person in the first place.

[Iroh]

Both were wrong, the victim shouldn't go somewhere else where his family can't watch him when he's aware that when he's attacked by his sickness, no one will be able to help and watch him out. And when the guy was attacked by that disease, the dealer just continued to do his thing? Where's the humanity and being concerned on that part? Yes, the show(job) must go on but how can that dealer attained to just see it around when the guy was being attacked and it's obvious by that time that he's struggling, right? Instead of calling for help, yet he continued to deal.

Why stop at just the dealer? How about the other players sitting at the table. Surely they’re wrong too as they all sat with the man at the table and equally failed to notice that he had died.
I don’t think the dealer noticed the man was in any trouble. If it was noticed, I bet it would have been taken care of a lot faster and the man would have received some sort of first aid on-site and later taken to a hospital. It’s simply bad for business to be inattentive and allow such tragedy occur in the business premises that could have be easily prevented. No fault lies with the dealer in my opinion.

[maydna]

Both were wrong, the victim shouldn't go somewhere else where his family can't watch him when he's aware that when he's attacked by his sickness, no one will be able to help and watch him out. And when the guy was attacked by that disease, the dealer just continued to do his thing? Where's the humanity and being concerned on that part? Yes, the show(job) must go on but how can that dealer attained to just see it around when the guy was being attacked and it's obvious by that time that he's struggling, right? Instead of calling for help, yet he continued to deal.

No one wants to have a heart attack in the middle of an activity, and no one knows when someone will have a heart attack. But each person's humanity and concern indeed determine the next step. And when no one cares about the incident, that person can die, and no one can help him.

We just hope this case will not happen again in any casino so that no victims are helped too late because there was no preparation. Perhaps the casino needs to inform all its customers that anyone who wants to play gambling must ensure their health first because of this incident. And this requires cooperation between all parties.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

And if he experiences something, it's better if the casino has or provides a first aid kit for the patient so he can survive and be taken to the hospital. Maybe after that incident, the casino will apply for a health certificate from a personal doctor or general practitioner so that no similar incident can occur in the future. Casinos that don't yet have first aid kits are starting to be required to provide them so that patients can be helped and it's too late to treat them.

As far as I can tell, there is no standard institution that doesn't have first aid, but some incidents are so sudden that if medical attention is not available, the person can just quickly pass on. In essence, first aid cannot solve some health emergencies, and I am sure that the casino where that man died had first aid, but just because his case was critical (my assumptions), heart cases are usually critical to the extent that the cardiologist usually advises the patient to make sure that they stay around their loved, so that any time they are having symptoms, their medications can be quickly administered to them.

[passwordnow]

It depends on the kind of health condition that is involved in this kind of condition, you can't expect someone who is having a critical health condition to go out in the first place to gamble, and for those in the category of a manageable conditions, if the situation worsen when they go out, they would rather be transferred to the hospital than being taken care of in the casino, casino is not a place we should expect health treatment because it will require professionalism to attend to a patient when the medical practitioners are not present.

I am sure that the victim knows his own health condition. And that's why if there were incidents of a sudden attack on him then he shouldn't go elsewhere or if he's going, he should be accompanied by any of his relatives or someone he knows to assist him. Professionalism can be set aside when someone's deteriorating.

It is part of the sensitiveness one can observe in big cities and in this part of the world.
There are several reasons the casino worker may not feel prompted to help the man, he could have thought he was drunk or under the effect of those drugs people may consume when engage in gambling, instead suffering a cardiac arrest. Even if he was not sure what was going on, there are casinos and businesses in general in the United States which are very tight when comes to efficiency and work time of their employees, we could argue there is a chance that guy was under pressure to keep his job and chose not to interrupt his shift, for the sake of not making things more difficult in the eyes of his boss.

Ironically, because all this situation ended up with a lawsuit, it could have completely backfire on the casino and that particular employee.  

That's the sad part about that, the employee is just doing his job but a bit of compassion and concern during that time can be taken into action. Like calling some guards to assess the situation and if immediate help is in need. It's just like one call away and let the rescue being done by those staff that he called and continue the dealing task he's asigned.

That's like limiting the life of the person and I'm not for it. There are better ways to handle this and that's not restricting the person to do as he pleases. It should be common knowledge that huge establishments have at least 1 onsite doctor and nurses available any time that are ready for these emergencies. Unfortunately, it's not the medical professionals that made the ultimate mistake, but the dealer who didn't even bat an eye on the man lying awkwardly by the table.

Yeah, that could still be boggling his mind until now. And thinking of the ifs during that situation but what's done is done, and feeling concern for the customer is a must in any customer-facing business and even not, so in general, in any business.

Why stop at just the dealer? How about the other players sitting at the table. Surely they’re wrong too as they all sat with the man at the table and equally failed to notice that he had died.
I don’t think the dealer noticed the man was in any trouble. If it was noticed, I bet it would have been taken care of a lot faster and the man would have received some sort of first aid on-site and later taken to a hospital. It’s simply bad for business to be inattentive and allow such tragedy occur in the business premises that could have be easily prevented. No fault lies with the dealer in my opinion.

You don't have to stop the dealer, it should be the initiative of the dealer to at least get some call and help from guards or other staff that can assist him in that situation. Yeah, other players can also do that but they have no accountability as they're on their own. But as an employee, we all know that they take into account customers' experiences and concerns. And it's not just about it, it's about humanity and compassion but seems it's not there during that time.

No one wants to have a heart attack in the middle of an activity, and no one knows when someone will have a heart attack. But each person's humanity and concern indeed determine the next step. And when no one cares about the incident, that person can die, and no one can help him.

We just hope this case will not happen again in any casino so that no victims are helped too late because there was no preparation. Perhaps the casino needs to inform all its customers that anyone who wants to play gambling must ensure their health first because of this incident. And this requires cooperation between all parties.

Those casinos that have seen this news or following strict protocol from the government have for sure medics on the side. Whilst we really don't know when heart attack will happen, the customer himself knows his condition and should have been neutral and mild on himself before going to such places. That's why for me, both were wrong.

[Iroh]

You don't have to stop the dealer, it should be the initiative of the dealer to at least get some call and help from guards or other staff that can assist him in that situation. Yeah, other players can also do that but they have no accountability as they're on their own. But as an employee, we all know that they take into account customers' experiences and concerns. And it's not just about it, it's about humanity and compassion but seems it's not there during that time.

No one noticed the man until it was too late and he was already gone. I’m pretty sure that if someone did, he would have been taken care of and wouldn’t have died. No one, including the dealer should have to babysit anyone as casinos expect their customers to come in healthy enough to spend their money.
Agreed, as an employee, he may have an obligation to make the customer have a good experience but again, no one quickly noticed the man had a problem. I’m sure the dealer would have called for some sort of medical help onsite before being rushed to a hospital. No one is at fault here.

[Slow death]

For years, when I watch soccer in my country on one of the TV channels, when there are games involving big league teams, commentators have said the following: this is a game that is not recommended for people with heart problems to watch. I confess that I always thought they were playing some kind of joke, but after some time I realized that it was something serious, people with mental and physical health problems such as depression, heart problems and tension and anxiety should not get involved with gambling and physical and online casinos should have some type of disclaimer

and total ban on people who have heart and tension problems, these people should not be allowed to play, but unfortunately many people who are in this condition are stubborn and will play because they know that the casino has no way of finding out their health condition So we can't blame any casino, at the end of the day it's all people's responsibility, people are adults and know what they're doing. If someone puts their health at risk because they want to gamble, then that person also needs mental treatment, because they are not well psychologically.

[ethereumhunter]

As far as I can tell, there is no standard institution that doesn't have first aid, but some incidents are so sudden that if medical attention is not available, the person can just quickly pass on. In essence, first aid cannot solve some health emergencies, and I am sure that the casino where that man died had first aid, but just because his case was critical (my assumptions), heart cases are usually critical to the extent that the cardiologist usually advises the patient to make sure that they stay around their loved, so that any time they are having symptoms, their medications can be quickly administered to them.

It's possible that the casino didn't provide first aid or because they were all panicking and didn't think about helping the person so they couldn't be helped and were taken to hospital. With this incident, it is hoped that every agency, company or casino can provide first aid. It would be even better to have medical personnel so that if something happens to a customer, they can treat it quickly and take them to the hospital. But in the case of a heart attack, no one can predict it and no one knows when a heart attack will strike someone. We can only get ready and hopefully, there will be no similar incidents in the future.

[passwordnow]

You don't have to stop the dealer, it should be the initiative of the dealer to at least get some call and help from guards or other staff that can assist him in that situation. Yeah, other players can also do that but they have no accountability as they're on their own. But as an employee, we all know that they take into account customers' experiences and concerns. And it's not just about it, it's about humanity and compassion but seems it's not there during that time.

No one noticed the man until it was too late and he was already gone. I’m pretty sure that if someone did, he would have been taken care of and wouldn’t have died. No one, including the dealer should have to babysit anyone as casinos expect their customers to come in healthy enough to spend their money.
Agreed, as an employee, he may have an obligation to make the customer have a good experience but again, no one quickly noticed the man had a problem. I’m sure the dealer would have called for some sort of medical help onsite before being rushed to a hospital. No one is at fault here.

It's not about baby sitting or whatnot, you're in a business and your top priority is the concerns of your customers. I don't know why you guys are disregarding the customer service on this fact. Whether they're a casino or just a typical business, they have to take care and be watchful with their customers. It's about giving the best service and approach to them. Yes, they're a casino but just like that we're having on online casinos, we're being taken care of by most of them. As for the dealer not noticing it quickly, when there's something odd since it's a face-to-face game, it should have been noticed easily.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

It would be even better to have medical personnel so that if something happens to a customer, they can treat it quickly and take them to the hospital. But in the case of a heart attack, no one can predict it and no one knows when a heart attack will strike someone. We can only get ready and hopefully, there will be no similar incidents in the future.

Yeah, it's not a bad idea that a standard organization (a casino) should have some medical personnel, but for any organization that doesn't have any, during emergencies, they usually call the emergency line, which gives a quick response too. Although after reading the quote, if that was true, then I would say the employees at that casino is at fault.

The complaint alleges that Wynn employees did not immediately check on Jagolinzer but instead started counting his gaming chips. Attorneys for Jagolinzer also wrote that Wynn security saw the medical episode on live surveillance footage and did not act.

Normally, this kind of stuff could happen in different places, like a school, hotel, or restaurant but immediate attention is being given to such case. There is one restaurant I heard about that was shot down because a customer died while he was eating there.

[Solosanz]

We as a human should care with the other even though we don't have any relationship or something else with them. Even we're have a skill that not related with human care or any other basic skill, we must learn about it.

Normally, this kind of stuff could happen in different places, like a school, hotel, or restaurant but immediate attention is being given to such case. There is one restaurant I heard about that was shot down because a customer died while he was eating there.

Too bad for the owner who own the restaurant because it was caused by his staff who's not act fast when the customer is under health emergency needs. Maybe the casino is also shut down due to this case?

[qwertyup23]

A man experiencing cardiac arrest and who later died was slumped over a blackjack table at Wynn Las Vegas for more than 15 minutes while the dealer continued to deal cards to another player, according to a wrongful death lawsuit filed this week in District Court. David Jagolinzer, an attorney from Florida, was staying at the Wynn when he suffered a cardiac arrest on April 6, 2022, while playing blackjack on the casino floor. The dealer at his table continued to deal while Jagolinzer was slumped over, according to a complaint filed Thursday.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/courts/lawsuit-dealer-continued-to-deal-with-man-slumped-over-during-cardiac-arrest-2731495/

This happened in 2022 and although I do not know the outcome of the court case, my thoughts are that the discussion about casinos should go beyond security measures to cover how prepared they are in the event of a health emergency . I think that well-equipped First Aid Kit and trained paramedical staff could significantly contribute to ensuring the safety and well-being of casino patrons. Although casinos are primarily places where people go for entertainment and profit, the operators should put in place health emergency measures could potentially mitigate the impact of unforeseen events. On the other hand, I would argue that the family of the deceased is trying to obtain money from the casino. Do you think the casino is to be blamed?

I do think that every establishment should at least be prepared in dealing with all kinds of emergency issues. The staff must be properly equipped with all the basic first-aid skills/techniques in order to at least support anyone who is in need of help.

While this may be true, I somehow disagree that the casino should be blamed of this incident. Remember that any person, of legal age, can enter the casino premises. They are not required to disclose any underlying health issues that may affect their health. At most, only basic first-aid kits can be administered at the patient on this kind of level.

[ethereumhunter]

Yeah, it's not a bad idea that a standard organization (a casino) should have some medical personnel, but for any organization that doesn't have any, during emergencies, they usually call the emergency line, which gives a quick response too. Although after reading the quote, if that was true, then I would say the employees at that casino is at fault.

The complaint alleges that Wynn employees did not immediately check on Jagolinzer but instead started counting his gaming chips. Attorneys for Jagolinzer also wrote that Wynn security saw the medical episode on live surveillance footage and did not act.

Normally, this kind of stuff could happen in different places, like a school, hotel, or restaurant but immediate attention is being given to such case. There is one restaurant I heard about that was shot down because a customer died while he was eating there.

Although a casino or venue or organization must have several medical personnel, if they are not responsive to the situation, it can also delay getting the patient to the hospital or providing first aid.

Maybe the employee didn't know the standard health procedures in the casino so he was late in providing help. But we hope that nothing like that happens again and if there are casinos or other places that don't provide first aid, they can do so immediately so that if something like that happens, they can immediately act to help him and take him to the hospital. And this is a lesson for other casinos to really pay attention to this problem and not let it happen in their place.

[irsykes]

Perhaps it’s also possible seeing casinos with medical health professionals but it may only be possible for big and reputable casinos since a lot of tourists people will definitely visit them. However, they should still not be blamed if there are any incidents like cardiac arrest and did not survive because first and foremost, players should always be responsible enough not to take some risks especially for those who have serious heart concerns as they may or may not survive when that happens.

If the casino is not required to have some kind of medical services or first aid to take care of immediate health challenges then it might be free but if it is mandatory like I know there are laws to provide such services where people gather or work incase of such emergency and the casino is found wanting then it will be a problem for them. Worse of it is the negligence on the part of the casino for not at least support a dying customer but was only interested in serving cards and continuing business.

The existence of regulations for providing medical or quick assistance at casinos is indeed good and wise, not only does it focus on money, service also needs to be anticipated. After all, casinos are never empty of visitors with money flowing in, but not all countries enforce this kind of thing. Hopefully there will be a good caring response

[Hypnosis00]

Perhaps it’s also possible seeing casinos with medical health professionals but it may only be possible for big and reputable casinos since a lot of tourists people will definitely visit them. However, they should still not be blamed if there are any incidents like cardiac arrest and did not survive because first and foremost, players should always be responsible enough not to take some risks especially for those who have serious heart concerns as they may or may not survive when that happens.

If the casino is not required to have some kind of medical services or first aid to take care of immediate health challenges then it might be free but if it is mandatory like I know there are laws to provide such services where people gather or work incase of such emergency and the casino is found wanting then it will be a problem for them. Worse of it is the negligence on the part of the casino for not at least support a dying customer but was only interested in serving cards and continuing business.

The existence of regulations for providing medical or quick assistance at casinos is indeed good and wise, not only does it focus on money, service also needs to be anticipated. After all, casinos are never empty of visitors with money flowing in, but not all countries enforce this kind of thing. Hopefully there will be a good caring response

If the government requires it before giving permits to run the business, for sure they will acquire it but it looks like it was not so this will be optional to them. But I'm sure they are also prepared in the case that there are emergencies whether it is for health issues or not. Might their personnel can't handle first aid but they can give us assistance if needed. But I could agree that they will have to create a team specific to such a thing as it needs training and expertise as well.

[Gyfts]

Just imagine a person got sick and died from excessive alcohol addiction, does that makes the alcohol companies be liable for their deaths? No.

Your scenario is quite strange because, in this case, the casino has no hand in his death, not as if he was intoxicated by the game or something, because that's not even possible. It's simple: they can just run some autopsy examinations to find out the actual cause of his death, and the casino would not even face any penalty because they did not cause his death; they did not give him anything to drink, like alcohol, as you said. Casinos are places to catch fun, and it's assumed he went there to catch fun, but something terrible happened and he died. No one is to blame.

The lawsuit isn't contending the casino caused death. The lawsuit is alleging the casino is negligent in not providing medical care and allowing a player in medical duress to be delayed potentially life saving treatment. They don't actually need to cause the death in order to be civilly liable. A negligence standard for lawsuits is quite low, meaning if this was sent through the court systems the casino could be found liable regardless of how he died. In this case, the casino is a proxy for the dealer. The dealer is the one who is negligent, but they sued the casino because they have the big bucks to pay out

Anyways, I'm not sure what the exact laws would be in play for the casino to be liable here nor what the outcome of this case was, but the case seems nonsensical. Plenty of people pass out in casinos. Why would this dealer have any reason to know he was experiencing a medical emergency?