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August 30, 2023, 02:43:22 AM
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Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.


Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.


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August 30, 2023, 11:48:08 AM
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Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.


Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

Inoue didn't mention that he would move up weight classes once he unifies the belt. In fact, his team has stated that he will have more fights before considering a move up. This situation could potentially open up an opportunity for Casimero to face him. While Casimero might be advancing in age, I believe Inoue's camp should consider giving him a chance to fight. This could help put an end to Casimero's continuous taunts towards their champion, referring to him as "Turtle."

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August 30, 2023, 11:56:37 AM
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Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.


Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

Inoue didn't mention that he would move up weight classes once he unifies the belt. In fact, his team has stated that he will have more fights before considering a move up. This situation could potentially open up an opportunity for Casimero to face him. While Casimero might be advancing in age, I believe Inoue's camp should consider giving him a chance to fight. This could help put an end to Casimero's continuous taunts towards their champion, referring to him as "Turtle."

The ball then is on Inoue's court whether to give Casimero his chance or not. The best thing that Casimero do is win this fight impressively, it might be good if it will be a knockout of the year candidate so that Inoue and his camp might consider him.

And with that, and it seems this is just a cherry pick fight for Casimero, he should win here. Otherwise, if he loses or just win in the judges scorecard, then it might he hard for him to setup a fight with Naoya as they might not be interested and it's like a low reward for them.

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August 30, 2023, 01:14:41 PM
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Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.


Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

He can do that if he wishes to but I don't think he is in a good position right now to start his journey again at 126 right from the bottom just to get ahead from Inoue so that he can have fight with him, you see, Casimero is already 35 years old and will flip another page next February and so I don't think that it will good for him to start all over again.

What should he do is fight Luis Nery to get a safe seat as a mandatory challenger when the fight of Tapales vs Inoue will be over.

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August 30, 2023, 01:45:14 PM
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Prior to picking Oguni, there were two or three ranked fighters who challenged Casimero. One of them is former 118 champion Luis Nery who is ranked WBC #1, WBO #2, and IBF #7. Casimero at the moment is ranked WBO #3 and WBC #8. Maybe Casimero's team thinks that this type of fight deserves a belt which makes this a high risk with low reward. Besides, Nery is banned in Japan after being caught using illegal substances. And I doubt Casimero agrees to travel to Mexico which is also very risky IMO.

I think that's the other way around where instead, the Casimero camp is challenging Luis Nery but the latter camp didn't have an interest.

Anyway, doesn't matter anymore as Casimero just needs to take down all opponents on his way. After that, we should see a bright light on his career by having a shot to face Naoya Inoue at the WBO title or unification, if possible, if the monster wins against his counterpart champion, Tapales.

In the past Johnreil Casimero indeed talked many times about fighting Luis Nery of how he beats the Mexican. I guess nobody is ducking between them and they just went separate ways. Also, Nery was already at 122 when Casimero was still fighting at 118 as the WBO champion. Now it's just talks about challenging each other since both of them have no belts so they also know that it may not be worth it. Both fighters were also the ones mentioned as Inoue's targets in his title defense. So the real target is Inoue for the belts and the money. Nery might have a better chance of getting Inoue first since he can be named as the WBC mandatory but he is banned in Japan which means Casimero might get Inoue first. But maybe Casimero and Nery will finally fight each other down the line but for now, they need to take a belt first. 

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August 30, 2023, 02:52:38 PM
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Prior to picking Oguni, there were two or three ranked fighters who challenged Casimero. One of them is former 118 champion Luis Nery who is ranked WBC #1, WBO #2, and IBF #7. Casimero at the moment is ranked WBO #3 and WBC #8. Maybe Casimero's team thinks that this type of fight deserves a belt which makes this a high risk with low reward. Besides, Nery is banned in Japan after being caught using illegal substances. And I doubt Casimero agrees to travel to Mexico which is also very risky IMO.

I think that's the other way around where instead, the Casimero camp is challenging Luis Nery but the latter camp didn't have an interest.

Anyway, doesn't matter anymore as Casimero just needs to take down all opponents on his way. After that, we should see a bright light on his career by having a shot to face Naoya Inoue at the WBO title or unification, if possible, if the monster wins against his counterpart champion, Tapales.

In the past Johnreil Casimero indeed talked many times about fighting Luis Nery of how he beats the Mexican. I guess nobody is ducking between them and they just went separate ways. Also, Nery was already at 122 when Casimero was still fighting at 118 as the WBO champion. Now it's just talks about challenging each other since both of them have no belts so they also know that it may not be worth it. Both fighters were also the ones mentioned as Inoue's targets in his title defense. So the real target is Inoue for the belts and the money. Nery might have a better chance of getting Inoue first since he can be named as the WBC mandatory but he is banned in Japan which means Casimero might get Inoue first. But maybe Casimero and Nery will finally fight each other down the line but for now, they need to take a belt first. 

Nery has a higher ranking than Casimero, so it's likely that he will become a mandatory challenger. However, as you mentioned, he is banned in Japan, where the fight would likely take place since Inoue is the champion. Hence, this scenario is unlikely to occur.

For those unaware of why Nery was banned in Japan, you can read the article below:
https://www.ringtv.com/530936-japan-boxing-commission-bans-luis-nery-life/

Regarding the situation, it might be wiser for Casimero to face Nery first. If he wins, he could then potentially go up against Inoue, even if he isn't a mandatory challenger yet. The question remains: would Inoue accept that challenge?

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August 30, 2023, 08:04:47 PM
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Prior to picking Oguni, there were two or three ranked fighters who challenged Casimero. One of them is former 118 champion Luis Nery who is ranked WBC #1, WBO #2, and IBF #7. Casimero at the moment is ranked WBO #3 and WBC #8. Maybe Casimero's team thinks that this type of fight deserves a belt which makes this a high risk with low reward. Besides, Nery is banned in Japan after being caught using illegal substances. And I doubt Casimero agrees to travel to Mexico which is also very risky IMO.

I think that's the other way around where instead, the Casimero camp is challenging Luis Nery but the latter camp didn't have an interest.

Anyway, doesn't matter anymore as Casimero just needs to take down all opponents on his way. After that, we should see a bright light on his career by having a shot to face Naoya Inoue at the WBO title or unification, if possible, if the monster wins against his counterpart champion, Tapales.

In the past Johnreil Casimero indeed talked many times about fighting Luis Nery of how he beats the Mexican. I guess nobody is ducking between them and they just went separate ways. Also, Nery was already at 122 when Casimero was still fighting at 118 as the WBO champion. Now it's just talks about challenging each other since both of them have no belts so they also know that it may not be worth it. Both fighters were also the ones mentioned as Inoue's targets in his title defense. So the real target is Inoue for the belts and the money. Nery might have a better chance of getting Inoue first since he can be named as the WBC mandatory but he is banned in Japan which means Casimero might get Inoue first. But maybe Casimero and Nery will finally fight each other down the line but for now, they need to take a belt first.  

Nery has a higher ranking than Casimero, so it's likely that he will become a mandatory challenger. However, as you mentioned, he is banned in Japan, where the fight would likely take place since Inoue is the champion. Hence, this scenario is unlikely to occur.

For those unaware of why Nery was banned in Japan, you can read the article below:
https://www.ringtv.com/530936-japan-boxing-commission-bans-luis-nery-life/

Regarding the situation, it might be wiser for Casimero to face Nery first. If he wins, he could then potentially go up against Inoue, even if he isn't a mandatory challenger yet. The question remains: would Inoue accept that challenge?
And that is what we are calling, a fight between two explosive fighters in Neri and Casimero, however, it seems that this might not materialized as Casimero will face another Japanese fighter. But his fight with Oguni is being viewed my many as a 'warm-up' fight.

Win-win though for either Nery and Casimero if they class, winner getting Inoue, that is if Inoue remains at super bantamweight as once he beat Tapales and unify the belts again, he might go up at 126 lbs and chance a belt. Another question is, will Inoue remain at 122 lbs if ever he had unified the belt?

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August 30, 2023, 11:57:05 PM
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Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

What else can he do? There is no choice but to just accept any available fight. Look at his current state now by doing so, fighting against unranked boxers with only 2 fights at 122 lbs but now currently being ranked #6 by the WBC and ranked #3 by the WBO. It means slowly but surely, the progress is good.

Don't worry about Naoya Inoue. Casimero doesn't need to rush. If Inoue moves up, then Casimero's plan to become a world champion again doesn't change. He will just go straight to his goals to have a taste again of being a champion. But if we look at the possible plan of Naoya Inoue if ever becoming a unified champion at 122, he will not move up right away at 126 and will have a series of title defense first.

Soon, Casimero and Inoue will catch up. I'm sure about that.
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August 31, 2023, 01:55:48 AM
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Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

What else can he do? There is no choice but to just accept any available fight. Look at his current state now by doing so, fighting against unranked boxers with only 2 fights at 122 lbs but now currently being ranked #6 by the WBC and ranked #3 by the WBO. It means slowly but surely, the progress is good.

Don't worry about Naoya Inoue. Casimero doesn't need to rush. If Inoue moves up, then Casimero's plan to become a world champion again doesn't change. He will just go straight to his goals to have a taste again of being a champion. But if we look at the possible plan of Naoya Inoue if ever becoming a unified champion at 122, he will not move up right away at 126 and will have a series of title defense first.

Soon, Casimero and Inoue will catch up. I'm sure about that.

Soon... If fate permits them for sure, both fighters will be glad to showcase their individual talents against each other.

I like the chance that promoters will let them make a good amount of money since they've got an unfinished trash-talking
might be a good timing for both camps and the promoters to hype it up.

Though there are many options for Inoue compared to Casimero, all will be depending on how Arum will see potential
profits and advantages before he will go to risk his cash-cow.
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Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.


Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

Inoue didn't mention that he would move up weight classes once he unifies the belt. In fact, his team has stated that he will have more fights before considering a move up. This situation could potentially open up an opportunity for Casimero to face him. While Casimero might be advancing in age, I believe Inoue's camp should consider giving him a chance to fight. This could help put an end to Casimero's continuous taunts towards their champion, referring to him as "Turtle."

There is no incentive for Inoue to stay on 122 when all he wants right now is the legacy to get belts as much as possible. He wouldn't wait for someone to fight him unless its a mandatory. Having lots of belts hanging on him after retiring is the next goal for him since he is getting old. Nery might just be the last in that division and then he'll move up until he reaches 135 or maybe super lightweight.


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Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.


Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

Inoue didn't mention that he would move up weight classes once he unifies the belt. In fact, his team has stated that he will have more fights before considering a move up. This situation could potentially open up an opportunity for Casimero to face him. While Casimero might be advancing in age, I believe Inoue's camp should consider giving him a chance to fight. This could help put an end to Casimero's continuous taunts towards their champion, referring to him as "Turtle."

There is no incentive for Inoue to stay on 122 when all he wants right now is the legacy to get belts as much as possible. He wouldn't wait for someone to fight him unless its a mandatory. Having lots of belts hanging on him after retiring is the next goal for him since he is getting old. Nery might just be the last in that division and then he'll move up until he reaches 135 or maybe super lightweight.


It is very interesting how far Inoue will get though, he mentioned something like 130 lbs, so not sure if he can go up at 135 lbs as he might lose every advantage he had, like speed and power and timing.

Maybe there is some incentives for him to stay and fight guys like Nery, Casimero and clean up the division. But the problem is that if you have all the belts in one division, each and every governing body will have to fight their mandatories and it's going to be hard for that. So once he unify, it's either he has to follow the mandatory of at least one of the belts he hold, or drop some of it and just retain what he wanted. Just like the approach of 140 lbs unified champion in Josh Taylor.

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It is very interesting how far Inoue will get though, he mentioned something like 130 lbs, so not sure if he can go up at 135 lbs as he might lose every advantage he had, like speed and power and timing.

Maybe there is some incentives for him to stay and fight guys like Nery, Casimero and clean up the division. But the problem is that if you have all the belts in one division, each and every governing body will have to fight their mandatories and it's going to be hard for that. So once he unify, it's either he has to follow the mandatory of at least one of the belts he hold, or drop some of it and just retain what he wanted. Just like the approach of 140 lbs unified champion in Josh Taylor.

His promoter, Bob, believes that Inoue is better than Pacquiao. Therefore, they might be considering breaking Pacman's achievements to reinforce their claim. I have no doubts about Inoue's ascent, but ideally, before that happens, he should have the opportunity to face Casimero in a championship fight, with Casimero as the challenger.

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August 31, 2023, 10:42:20 AM
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Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.


Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

Inoue didn't mention that he would move up weight classes once he unifies the belt. In fact, his team has stated that he will have more fights before considering a move up. This situation could potentially open up an opportunity for Casimero to face him. While Casimero might be advancing in age, I believe Inoue's camp should consider giving him a chance to fight. This could help put an end to Casimero's continuous taunts towards their champion, referring to him as "Turtle."

The ball then is on Inoue's court whether to give Casimero his chance or not. The best thing that Casimero do is win this fight impressively, it might be good if it will be a knockout of the year candidate so that Inoue and his camp might consider him.

And with that, and it seems this is just a cherry pick fight for Casimero, he should win here. Otherwise, if he loses or just win in the judges scorecard, then it might he hard for him to setup a fight with Naoya as they might not be interested and it's like a low reward for them.

Another remarkable aspect of Casimero is his consistent taunting of Inoue, which has led people to believe in his genuine confidence in defeating an exceptionally skilled fighter. He has effectively generated interest in the fight, and now, we're eager to witness it unfold. While Inoue currently holds the championship title, there's no doubt that Casimero will present a tough challenge. His approach is distinct from the kind of competition Inoue has faced in his previous bouts.

That's why it's of utmost importance for the fight with Tapales to take place this year, as it could pave the way for another significant Inoue fight next year.

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August 31, 2023, 11:55:41 AM
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Another remarkable aspect of Casimero is his consistent taunting of Inoue, which has led people to believe in his genuine confidence in defeating an exceptionally skilled fighter. He has effectively generated interest in the fight, and now, we're eager to witness it unfold. While Inoue currently holds the championship title, there's no doubt that Casimero will present a tough challenge. His approach is distinct from the kind of competition Inoue has faced in his previous bouts.

That's why it's of utmost importance for the fight with Tapales to take place this year, as it could pave the way for another significant Inoue fight next year.

This won't stop until he gets a chance to fight Inoue. He's set his sights on Inoue as he seeks a fast track to success, but Casimero's luck in this regard seems a bit uncertain, as he hasn't been able to cross paths with Inoue just yet. This is his opportunity, as they now compete in the same division—Casimero as a challenger and Inoue as the champion.

It wouldn't be unreasonable if Inoue were to put an end to the speculations surrounding their matchup by facing Casimero. It could silence Casimero in one effective way: a knockout victory. However, it's perplexing why Inoue doesn't seem interested. This lack of enthusiasm on Inoue's part raises questions and can't help but lead people to consider whether Inoue is avoiding a clash with Casimero out of fear.

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It is very interesting how far Inoue will get though, he mentioned something like 130 lbs, so not sure if he can go up at 135 lbs as he might lose every advantage he had, like speed and power and timing.

Maybe there is some incentives for him to stay and fight guys like Nery, Casimero and clean up the division. But the problem is that if you have all the belts in one division, each and every governing body will have to fight their mandatories and it's going to be hard for that. So once he unify, it's either he has to follow the mandatory of at least one of the belts he hold, or drop some of it and just retain what he wanted. Just like the approach of 140 lbs unified champion in Josh Taylor.

His promoter, Bob, believes that Inoue is better than Pacquiao. Therefore, they might be considering breaking Pacman's achievements to reinforce their claim. I have no doubts about Inoue's ascent, but ideally, before that happens, he should have the opportunity to face Casimero in a championship fight, with Casimero as the challenger.

I think Bob Arum only said that because he wanted to hype Inoue but the truth is Inoue could not break Pacman's record of the being the only boxer to achieve that fate, 8-division world champion. Inoue is just a 3-division world champion and so many big names just one or two division up of the super bantamweight division which i think are hard to defeat.

Inoue is one of Bob's cash cow at the moment so he will say whatever good things he could say when the press are around.

I just hope that Bob would let his ward fight Casimero very soon.
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Easy win for Casimero? I won't doubt that and would love to bet if this wouldn't fall below 1.50 odds. I think I agree with what Darker45 said and he should have set his eyes on the prize that are worth it, he should have demanded for a worthy opponent instead of Oguni that's already ageing.
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August 31, 2023, 01:35:04 PM
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Prior to picking Oguni, there were two or three ranked fighters who challenged Casimero. One of them is former 118 champion Luis Nery who is ranked WBC #1, WBO #2, and IBF #7. Casimero at the moment is ranked WBO #3 and WBC #8. Maybe Casimero's team thinks that this type of fight deserves a belt which makes this a high risk with low reward. Besides, Nery is banned in Japan after being caught using illegal substances. And I doubt Casimero agrees to travel to Mexico which is also very risky IMO.

I think that's the other way around where instead, the Casimero camp is challenging Luis Nery but the latter camp didn't have an interest.

Anyway, doesn't matter anymore as Casimero just needs to take down all opponents on his way. After that, we should see a bright light on his career by having a shot to face Naoya Inoue at the WBO title or unification, if possible, if the monster wins against his counterpart champion, Tapales.

In the past Johnreil Casimero indeed talked many times about fighting Luis Nery of how he beats the Mexican. I guess nobody is ducking between them and they just went separate ways. Also, Nery was already at 122 when Casimero was still fighting at 118 as the WBO champion. Now it's just talks about challenging each other since both of them have no belts so they also know that it may not be worth it. Both fighters were also the ones mentioned as Inoue's targets in his title defense. So the real target is Inoue for the belts and the money. Nery might have a better chance of getting Inoue first since he can be named as the WBC mandatory but he is banned in Japan which means Casimero might get Inoue first. But maybe Casimero and Nery will finally fight each other down the line but for now, they need to take a belt first.  

Nery has a higher ranking than Casimero, so it's likely that he will become a mandatory challenger. However, as you mentioned, he is banned in Japan, where the fight would likely take place since Inoue is the champion. Hence, this scenario is unlikely to occur.

For those unaware of why Nery was banned in Japan, you can read the article below:
https://www.ringtv.com/530936-japan-boxing-commission-bans-luis-nery-life/

Regarding the situation, it might be wiser for Casimero to face Nery first. If he wins, he could then potentially go up against Inoue, even if he isn't a mandatory challenger yet. The question remains: would Inoue accept that challenge?
And that is what we are calling, a fight between two explosive fighters in Neri and Casimero, however, it seems that this might not materialized as Casimero will face another Japanese fighter. But his fight with Oguni is being viewed my many as a 'warm-up' fight.

Win-win though for either Nery and Casimero if they class, winner getting Inoue, that is if Inoue remains at super bantamweight as once he beat Tapales and unify the belts again, he might go up at 126 lbs and chance a belt. Another question is, will Inoue remain at 122 lbs if ever he had unified the belt?

If you guys have forgot, CASIMERO AGREES TO THREE-FIGHT DEAL WITH JAPANESE PROMOTERS; which is why now he is getting a Japanese boxer again instead of what we have expected as he is indeed looking forward to make his name good and lift his rankings in WBC as well. If I'm not mistaken, this will be his last fight with the said promoter and after that, we will likely see Nery vs Casimero if in case there is still time before of the any sanctioning bodies will order a mandatory fight to the unified champion.
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August 31, 2023, 02:03:01 PM
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Another remarkable aspect of Casimero is his consistent taunting of Inoue, which has led people to believe in his genuine confidence in defeating an exceptionally skilled fighter. He has effectively generated interest in the fight, and now, we're eager to witness it unfold. While Inoue currently holds the championship title, there's no doubt that Casimero will present a tough challenge. His approach is distinct from the kind of competition Inoue has faced in his previous bouts.

That's why it's of utmost importance for the fight with Tapales to take place this year, as it could pave the way for another significant Inoue fight next year.

This won't stop until he gets a chance to fight Inoue. He's set his sights on Inoue as he seeks a fast track to success, but Casimero's luck in this regard seems a bit uncertain, as he hasn't been able to cross paths with Inoue just yet. This is his opportunity, as they now compete in the same division—Casimero as a challenger and Inoue as the champion.

It wouldn't be unreasonable if Inoue were to put an end to the speculations surrounding their matchup by facing Casimero. It could silence Casimero in one effective way: a knockout victory. However, it's perplexing why Inoue doesn't seem interested. This lack of enthusiasm on Inoue's part raises questions and can't help but lead people to consider whether Inoue is avoiding a clash with Casimero out of fear.

Inoue knows very well what is happening here. He knows that he is a money fight right now. And there will be a lot of people trying to fight against him. And Casimero is probably doing this because he wants to have a go at him even though he might not deserve it. I am definitely not going to say that he does not deserve the fight. It is a different conversation if he actually deserves the fight or not. But if there is a big fighter who can actually be a payday for other fighters, there will be a lot of fighters talking trash about him.

So I don’t know if he is going to take Casimero seriously or not. Maybe if Casimero wins his fight on 12th October, he will get his chance.

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August 31, 2023, 05:23:44 PM
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It is very interesting how far Inoue will get though, he mentioned something like 130 lbs, so not sure if he can go up at 135 lbs as he might lose every advantage he had, like speed and power and timing.

Maybe there is some incentives for him to stay and fight guys like Nery, Casimero and clean up the division. But the problem is that if you have all the belts in one division, each and every governing body will have to fight their mandatories and it's going to be hard for that. So once he unify, it's either he has to follow the mandatory of at least one of the belts he hold, or drop some of it and just retain what he wanted. Just like the approach of 140 lbs unified champion in Josh Taylor.

His promoter, Bob, believes that Inoue is better than Pacquiao. Therefore, they might be considering breaking Pacman's achievements to reinforce their claim. I have no doubts about Inoue's ascent, but ideally, before that happens, he should have the opportunity to face Casimero in a championship fight, with Casimero as the challenger.

I think Bob Arum only said that because he wanted to hype Inoue but the truth is Inoue could not break Pacman's record of the being the only boxer to achieve that fate, 8-division world champion. Inoue is just a 3-division world champion and so many big names just one or two division up of the super bantamweight division which i think are hard to defeat.

Inoue is one of Bob's cash cow at the moment so he will say whatever good things he could say when the press are around.

I just hope that Bob would let his ward fight Casimero very soon.

Bob had been building up Inoue for a long time, he had to go and fight outside Japan this time. One way of doing this is to move up to the usual weight of the Westerners. This will also give him money when fights are in the US. Since he had defeated Fulton, it should not also be surprising that he can carry on defeating others in that division but most likely the goal is not just to make money but also belts.

I'm not sure if Pacman had unified a lot of belts but Inoue made it to that level as well.


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August 31, 2023, 06:43:17 PM
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Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.


Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

Inoue didn't mention that he would move up weight classes once he unifies the belt. In fact, his team has stated that he will have more fights before considering a move up. This situation could potentially open up an opportunity for Casimero to face him. While Casimero might be advancing in age, I believe Inoue's camp should consider giving him a chance to fight. This could help put an end to Casimero's continuous taunts towards their champion, referring to him as "Turtle."

That's completely unnecessary for Casimero to call someone who's an elite fighter. I know he just wants attention to have a shot at fighting Inoue before when he said it, up until now that motive remains the same but Casimero's chances are becoming slimmer as time passes by. I've seen him practicing punching the bag, but he's out of shape, his belly became bigger and he looks like demotivated. Saw it from a random boxing reel in Facebook. Well, I hope he's gonna come back win a championship and have a chance to fight Inoue.

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