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It might not be following the exact birthday of Shuffle, but releasing a token is a ton of hard work, especially how one single screw up can burn not only them but other people who have invested on it as well. From the looks of it, they seem to be following through with their plans, and it's just not being shared with us unless everything is ironed out. Give it a week max for updates on TG and Twitter, but hopefully we receive something come Friday or Saturday for the said announcement.
Token release is very important for the token price and for the platform too. First, it is tokenomics that needs to be well designed to help the token can maintain its price and avoid unnecessary inflation like GameFi tokens. Second, it is security that must be very well built and tested many times by the team and even with trusted cryptocurrency audits companies. If there are bugs in smart contracts, the token will be exploited and hackers will dump it seriously. I believe Shuffle team are building many things for SHFL TGE and delay is normal. If they already had plans for promotion, they will execute it one way or another and that time will come with us. That is true, and so far they have been very engaging to the community when it comes to huge announcements. You can see it on Twitter and TG too. Things are better delayed than rushed, especially if the release is already robust enough to withstand possible exploits by bad actors out there. Shuffle can carry out a good release, and delays may not be what people expect but perhaps it's for the better. Plus the team should defintely get a better interpretation/understanding on what currently the market is doing or might do, and if it's still a good situation to generate then release the token to the public. Releasing a token to the community during the wrong time might discourage people from holding the token and they might also avoid buying it during more bullish conditions. Another silver lining is, it's probably better that it's delayed because the users are given more time to prepare.
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February 07, 2024, 04:46:08 PM |
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That is true, and so far they have been very engaging to the community when it comes to huge announcements. You can see it on Twitter and TG too. Things are better delayed than rushed, especially if the release is already robust enough to withstand possible exploits by bad actors out there. Shuffle can carry out a good release, and delays may not be what people expect but perhaps it's for the better.
Carefulness will help to build up good plan and I have feeling that Shuffle team are intentionally doing this for their token launch as well as promotion for their users. They don't have to hurry to launch the token and the promotion if everything have yet been ready for an important launch. When they are ready, they will ping us with big news and having a token is an advantage for their business but only if they already tested it well and debug it carefully. As it's erc20 token it will get listed to uniswap, and because of it, it hopefully catches some whale eyes. And if that happens, i wouldn't be worried on CEXes. They will add it purely because of the volume.
It is how some successful memecoins did like Shiba Inu, PEPE and BONK. I have high hopes for tokenomics, but as they are still unclear i will keep my feet on the ground and have healthy skeptism. Token itself might as well be generic erc20 token, so it doesn't need complex smart contracts. Least i hope it is, because less is more if tokenomics have been build correctly and % of profits earmarked for buyback is high enough.
Tokenomics is very important to help the token get money from investors. Because bad tokenomics will give a token very grey future and in contrast, a good designed tokenomics will help it avoid inflationary, price loss consequently and investors will feel less risk and have more interested in investment.
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February 07, 2024, 05:36:12 PM |
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That is true, and so far they have been very engaging to the community when it comes to huge announcements. You can see it on Twitter and TG too. Things are better delayed than rushed, especially if the release is already robust enough to withstand possible exploits by bad actors out there. Shuffle can carry out a good release, and delays may not be what people expect but perhaps it's for the better.
Shuffle never said there was a delay but they just said it would be announced next week that was the announcement pinned on twitter. Even if there is a delay they will definitely announce again regarding this but so far they are fine, after all they said quarter 1 meaning as long as the first quarter has not ended then it is not a delay. Regarding exploits, developers will definitely be more careful to test their own tokens more, but so far we are just speculating but hope it comes sooner than we think because the community is of course waiting for it.
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February 08, 2024, 10:39:11 AM |
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As it's erc20 token it will get listed to uniswap, and because of it, it hopefully catches some whale eyes. And if that happens, i wouldn't be worried on CEXes. They will add it purely because of the volume.
It is how some successful memecoins did like Shiba Inu, PEPE and BONK. I believe not, or it's not just the "whale eyes" that helped those big memecoins find success. The bigger part of it is definitely their community/the people who share the same ethos/philosophy. The whales and the speculators followed because the potential for profit was great. Bitcoin during its early days was also sort of like a memecoin, in my opinion. But in Shuffle's token, there's already a narrative of success behind casinos that mint/issue their own tokens - the proof is RollBit.
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February 09, 2024, 01:35:08 PM |
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As it's erc20 token it will get listed to uniswap, and because of it, it hopefully catches some whale eyes. And if that happens, i wouldn't be worried on CEXes. They will add it purely because of the volume.
It is how some successful memecoins did like Shiba Inu, PEPE and BONK. I believe not, or it's not just the "whale eyes" that helped those big memecoins find success. The bigger part of it is definitely their community/the people who share the same ethos/philosophy. The whales and the speculators followed because the potential for profit was great. Bitcoin during its early days was also sort of like a memecoin, in my opinion. But in Shuffle's token, there's already a narrative of success behind casinos that mint/issue their own tokens - the proof is RollBit. You’re correct that the community gives a huge impact on meme coin success but being an ERC20 token helps them to be easily seen by whales since ERC20 is still the most popular blockchain for whales to invest. There’s a lot of tools that whales using in there to determine newly created token that has a potential which they usually gamble through providing liquidity in early stage. ERC20 is really a good chain to start because it's easy to promote in there on the real whales but of course having a multiple chain is an advantage especially on blockchain like BSC that has cheaper fees.
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February 10, 2024, 12:58:46 AM |
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That is true, and so far they have been very engaging to the community when it comes to huge announcements. You can see it on Twitter and TG too. Things are better delayed than rushed, especially if the release is already robust enough to withstand possible exploits by bad actors out there. Shuffle can carry out a good release, and delays may not be what people expect but perhaps it's for the better.
Shuffle never said there was a delay but they just said it would be announced next week that was the announcement pinned on twitter. Even if there is a delay they will definitely announce again regarding this but so far they are fine, after all they said quarter 1 meaning as long as the first quarter has not ended then it is not a delay. Regarding exploits, developers will definitely be more careful to test their own tokens more, but so far we are just speculating but hope it comes sooner than we think because the community is of course waiting for it. I think we are starting to get carried away with the shuffle strategy, we are increasingly curious about the launch of SHFL and of course that is good. In my opinion, there is no need for SHFL to rush, for me it is better to be late than to be in a hurry but with an immature concept. However, because shuffle will launch SHFL in the first quarter, until today there has been no delay at all, we have to wait until March (1st quarter = January-March). I checked my shuffle account and it turns out my wager wasn't high enough. So sometimes I even hope there is a delay so I can increase the wagering on my shuffle account. lol ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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February 10, 2024, 09:01:11 AM |
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That is true, and so far they have been very engaging to the community when it comes to huge announcements. You can see it on Twitter and TG too. Things are better delayed than rushed, especially if the release is already robust enough to withstand possible exploits by bad actors out there. Shuffle can carry out a good release, and delays may not be what people expect but perhaps it's for the better.
Shuffle never said there was a delay but they just said it would be announced next week that was the announcement pinned on twitter. Even if there is a delay they will definitely announce again regarding this but so far they are fine, after all they said quarter 1 meaning as long as the first quarter has not ended then it is not a delay. Regarding exploits, developers will definitely be more careful to test their own tokens more, but so far we are just speculating but hope it comes sooner than we think because the community is of course waiting for it. I think we are starting to get carried away with the shuffle strategy, we are increasingly curious about the launch of SHFL and of course that is good. In my opinion, there is no need for SHFL to rush, for me it is better to be late than to be in a hurry but with an immature concept. However, because shuffle will launch SHFL in the first quarter, until today there has been no delay at all, we have to wait until March (1st quarter = January-March). Its will be good if they launch their token when the market is on hype and people think about the bull run since maybe for this they can get additional demand coming from those people who wait for the token launch also those people who find something new to invest while they see that the market is having a good hype due to the bullish situation. But if they are not ready yet then I guess they should not really force all of it just to launch their token since for sure those greedy people will blame them if everything fall or if they didn't satisfied because their expectation has not been meet. Right now for sure there's a lot of people waiting for their launching and let see if they can compete with other casino token which is currently doing good these days.
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February 10, 2024, 09:50:15 AM |
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As it's erc20 token it will get listed to uniswap, and because of it, it hopefully catches some whale eyes. And if that happens, i wouldn't be worried on CEXes. They will add it purely because of the volume.
It is how some successful memecoins did like Shiba Inu, PEPE and BONK. I believe not, or it's not just the "whale eyes" that helped those big memecoins find success. The bigger part of it is definitely their community/the people who share the same ethos/philosophy. The whales and the speculators followed because the potential for profit was great. Bitcoin during its early days was also sort of like a memecoin, in my opinion. But in Shuffle's token, there's already a narrative of success behind casinos that mint/issue their own tokens - the proof is RollBit. You’re correct that the community gives a huge impact on meme coin success but being an ERC20 token helps them to be easily seen by whales since ERC20 is still the most popular blockchain for whales to invest. There’s a lot of tools that whales using in there to determine newly created token that has a potential which they usually gamble through providing liquidity in early stage. ERC20 is really a good chain to start because it's easy to promote in there on the real whales but of course having a multiple chain is an advantage especially on blockchain like BSC that has cheaper fees. Being minted/issued and distributed in Ethereum "could" help, but I believe that it truly depends on the service/project/idea behind the token itself. There are many MANY dead tokens in Ethereum that have surged, crashed, and that have been absolutely ignored. Why? Because there's no community behind them. A memecoin can survive longer than a break-through invention because of the community of users that continue to support the memecoin. Although stupid, Dogecoin is the proof. We are off-topic. Haha. Back to Shuffle.
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I checked my shuffle account and it turns out my wager wasn't high enough. So sometimes I even hope there is a delay so I can increase the wagering on my shuffle account. lol ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I also have the same small wagered in Shuffle because it is risking money here is small so it does not have a large amount of bets and can only pursue rakeback. Because the snaphot has been taken, when the bet is increased, it will not increase the number of SHFL tokens earned later but we will see how Shuffle changes so far on twitter they continue to promote with guesses of ongoing matches. Unfortunately, I have never won a guessing contest on twitter. hahaha
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February 10, 2024, 10:45:21 PM |
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I think we are starting to get carried away with the shuffle strategy, we are increasingly curious about the launch of SHFL and of course that is good. In my opinion, there is no need for SHFL to rush, for me it is better to be late than to be in a hurry but with an immature concept. However, because shuffle will launch SHFL in the first quarter, until today there has been no delay at all, we have to wait until March (1st quarter = January-March). I checked my shuffle account and it turns out my wager wasn't high enough. So sometimes I even hope there is a delay so I can increase the wagering on my shuffle account. lol ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) High enough for what? I don't think they have announced any minimum limit for airdrop, or if you think you would have wanted to gamble more for it, i am guessing no matter how much volume people have, everyone is wondering if it has been enough for decent share. I know i didn't do enough. But i am hoping for dump so i can sweep some cheap tokens. And there did you get that 1st quarter? And why would we need to wait for it? All i have seen is that Noah tweet that long time ago that sad "$SHFL arriving in early 2024!"
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I checked my shuffle account and it turns out my wager wasn't high enough. So sometimes I even hope there is a delay so I can increase the wagering on my shuffle account. lol ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I also have the same small wagered in Shuffle because it is risking money here is small so it does not have a large amount of bets and can only pursue rakeback. Because the snaphot has been taken, when the bet is increased, it will not increase the number of SHFL tokens earned later but we will see how Shuffle changes so far on twitter they continue to promote with guesses of ongoing matches. Unfortunately, I have never won a guessing contest on twitter. hahaha Really? snapshot has been taken, ah, I missed the information. I'm not active enough on Twitter so I don't know the latest news. If so there is no chance to get more, well, let's patiently wait and see how much we will get i am guessing no matter how much volume people have, everyone is wondering if it has been enough for decent share. I know i didn't do enough.
ah, yeah.. Maybe because we are normal humans who always like greed, so any amount will feel insufficient and not enough, lol ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Really? snapshot has been taken, ah, I missed the information. I'm not active enough on Twitter so I don't know the latest news. If so there is no chance to get more, well, let's patiently wait and see how much we will get
Yes the snapshot was taken on February 2nd, I wonder how many tokens we will get, but I realize it's below the minimum expected. I guess they are preparing for it. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ah, yeah.. Maybe because we are normal humans who always like greed, so any amount will feel insufficient and not enough, lol ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Haha it's true that we won't be satisfied if the amount is small, but it's true that we will see when they launch tokens in the market when there is good momentum, at least we can buy with other expectations later. Or this token if there is already a value can be bet with other coins.
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February 12, 2024, 07:35:30 AM Last edit: February 12, 2024, 08:02:36 AM by lateman100 |
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Hi everyone,
never had a such strange experience with a bookie.
I recently encountered a frustrating situation with shuffle. I requested a withdrawal over 10 days ago after completing all required verifications. However, they've refused to pay out my winnings, citing breaches of their terms and conditions.
Their reasons for withholding my winnings seem unreasonable to me. They claim I breached terms by using a VPN once (probabily i connected from a device in which the VPN was switched on, never seen a crypto bookie banning vpn) and by engaging in sure bets on their platform (i admit have covered some of my bets placed on shuffle betting on other bookies). According to them, using a VPN and making sure bets are violations of their terms and conditions.
I believe their interpretation of the terms is unjust and I'm entitled to receive my winnings.
5.1k You participate in the Shuffle games strictly in your personal and non-professional capacity and for recreational and entertainment purposes only;
is this a bookie?
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February 12, 2024, 08:45:56 AM |
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I recently encountered a frustrating situation with shuffle. I requested a withdrawal over 10 days ago after completing all required verifications. However, they've refused to pay out my winnings, citing breaches of their terms and conditions. ~snip~
Have you won in sports betting? Maybe you can explain in more detail with evidence to support your claim. Using a VPN in some casinos is prohibited especially if you are using the VPN to bypass a restricted country. You can open your accusation thread here: Scam Accusations. Hopefully ndumm can answer the problems that occur to you, but if you are proven to have violated the ToS then I cannot guarantee that what you hope will come true. good luck
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February 12, 2024, 09:55:33 AM |
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Their reasons for withholding my winnings seem unreasonable to me. They claim I breached terms by using a VPN once (probabily i connected from a device in which the VPN was switched on, never seen a crypto bookie banning vpn) and by engaging in sure bets on their platform (i admit have covered some of my bets placed on shuffle betting on other bookies). According to them, using a VPN and making sure bets are violations of their terms and conditions.
Since you admit being involved on sure bet that involves betting on other casino to cover your bet means you are doing arbitrage betting. This practice is against casino policy and your winnings will surely be seize but you have the right to claim your original deposit. I think the VPN part violation is probably you are trying to hide your original IP to dodge being connected to other account which you are using to cover the sure bet. The main issue here is you being involved on arbitrage bets which we all know that is not acceptable in the casino based on their ToS. There’s nothing more to discuss here since you already admitted your violation enough to seize your profit. Aside from earning on sure bets, You can also claim casino bonuses such as rakeback and level up rewards just by betting without any risk involved.
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February 12, 2024, 10:16:29 AM Last edit: February 12, 2024, 10:38:02 AM by lateman100 |
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Their reasons for withholding my winnings seem unreasonable to me. They claim I breached terms by using a VPN once (probabily i connected from a device in which the VPN was switched on, never seen a crypto bookie banning vpn) and by engaging in sure bets on their platform (i admit have covered some of my bets placed on shuffle betting on other bookies). According to them, using a VPN and making sure bets are violations of their terms and conditions.
Since you admit being involved on sure bet that involves betting on other casino to cover your bet means you are doing arbitrage betting. This practice is against casino policy and your winnings will surely be seize but you have the right to claim your original deposit. I think the VPN part violation is probably you are trying to hide your original IP to dodge being connected to other account which you are using to cover the sure bet. The main issue here is you being involved on arbitrage bets which we all know that is not acceptable in the casino based on their ToS. There’s nothing more to discuss here since you already admitted your violation enough to seize your profit. Aside from earning on sure bets, You can also claim casino bonuses such as rakeback and level up rewards just by betting without any risk involved. Hi sir what you say has completely non sense. I did an aribitrage bet only on one bet (ncaa basket women), and i covered my bets on other website. Realy do not understand. I don't think it's your business if i cover exposure using third bookmakers, it's part of a common trading strategy, that most gamblers apply, expecially in live events like basket where odds moves quickly. You talk like somebody never place a bets in his life and i don't know how people with so lack experience could running a sportsbook business. About bonus, i never claim any bonus, just place many bets (normal bet, only one i covered elsewhere). About VPN, i forget to swicth off the VPN one time, and i appear to be in moldovia, but i did not place any bets in that case. So do not uderstand where is the problem. My other ip are all italian ip and i am from italy even when you say "you are trying to hide your original IP to dodge being connected to other account which you are using to cover the sure bet"...you know what a sure bet is? Surebetting is making profit placing different bet on DIFFERENT bookies (how can a single bookie offering arbitraging odds itself!?!?!?!??!), and i send you also screnshoot of the third part website (goldbet.it) where i placed my bets to cover the ones un shuffle. I understand you are a small bookie, and probabily you need to do trick like this to save same money, but here there is not realy sense on what on you are doing and sayng. I can lost my money, it's part of the game when you place bets on little bookie like shuffle, but have to tell people to be aware of a bookie like this. Will advice people on arbusers forum too, and in any other gambling site. If loggin trought VPN (once time) and cover bets placed on shuffle on 3rd bookies (what do you care), give you the right to void all the bets, shuffle is not a saefty place where placing bets. ps. most of crypto people have vpn addons default on their browser so the risk to connect trought VPN is high.
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Hi sir
what you say has completely non sense. I did an aribitrage bet only on one bet (ncaa basket women), and i covered my bets on other website. Realy do not understand. I don't think it's your business if i cover exposure using third bookmakers, it's part of a common trading strategy, that most gamblers apply, expecially in live events like basket where odds moves quickly. You talk like somebody never place a bets in his life and i don't know how people with so lack experience could running a sportsbook business. About bonus, i never claim any bonus, just place many bets (normal bet, only one i covered elsewhere). About VPN, i forget to swicth off the VPN one time, and i appear to be in moldovia, but i did not place any bets in that case. So do not uderstand where is the problem. My other ip are all italian ip and i am from italy
even when you say "you are trying to hide your original IP to dodge being connected to other account which you are using to cover the sure bet"...you know what a sure bet is? Surebetting is making profit placing different bet on DIFFERENT bookies (how can a single bookie offering arbitraging odds itself!?!?!?!??!), and i send you also screnshoot of the third part website (goldbet.it) where i placed my bets to cover the ones un shuffle.
I understand you are a small bookie, and probabily you need to do trick like this to save same money, but here there is not realy sense on what on you are doing and sayng. I can lost my money, it's part of the game when you place bets on little bookie like shuffle, but have to tell people to be aware of a bookie like this. Will advice people on arbusers forum too, and in any other gambling site. If loggin trought VPN (once time) and cover bets placed on shuffle on 3rd bookies (what do you care), give you the right to void all the bets, shuffle is not a saefty place where placing bets. ps. most of crypto people have vpn addons default on their browser so the risk to connect trought VPN is high.
Well it's directly prohibited, so you definitely broke the rules: 7.4. Any attempt to conceal your true location through the use of a VPN, proxy, or similar service or through the provision of incorrect or misleading information about your place of residence or location will constitute a breach of these Terms of Service.
So VPN rule alone would be enough depending how strict they want to be with the ToS. But hopefully you'll get your money back. Maybe you'll get a change to appeal again, and maybe they'll accept the reason that it's by an accident. Or maybe you are not telling something, like the fact you accidentally used same ip on that vpn that you had been used for alt account. We don't know as we only have your side about it. But obviously "accidentally" is going to be everyone's go-to excuse. Imho leaving the VPN on, could happen to anyone, but it's now just a matter of their interpretation. But after googling $shfl, i am pretty sure that you are not the only one getting this treatment. There are youtube influencers encouraging people to use VPN in shuffle, and twitter accounts admitting they are using vpn to get an airdrop. I am now actually hoping that these people get busted so that there will be less participants and bigger shares.
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February 12, 2024, 04:51:50 PM Last edit: February 12, 2024, 05:02:05 PM by lateman100 |
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Hi sir
what you say has completely non sense. I did an aribitrage bet only on one bet (ncaa basket women), and i covered my bets on other website. Realy do not understand. I don't think it's your business if i cover exposure using third bookmakers, it's part of a common trading strategy, that most gamblers apply, expecially in live events like basket where odds moves quickly. You talk like somebody never place a bets in his life and i don't know how people with so lack experience could running a sportsbook business. About bonus, i never claim any bonus, just place many bets (normal bet, only one i covered elsewhere). About VPN, i forget to swicth off the VPN one time, and i appear to be in moldovia, but i did not place any bets in that case. So do not uderstand where is the problem. My other ip are all italian ip and i am from italy
even when you say "you are trying to hide your original IP to dodge being connected to other account which you are using to cover the sure bet"...you know what a sure bet is? Surebetting is making profit placing different bet on DIFFERENT bookies (how can a single bookie offering arbitraging odds itself!?!?!?!??!), and i send you also screnshoot of the third part website (goldbet.it) where i placed my bets to cover the ones un shuffle.
I understand you are a small bookie, and probabily you need to do trick like this to save same money, but here there is not realy sense on what on you are doing and sayng. I can lost my money, it's part of the game when you place bets on little bookie like shuffle, but have to tell people to be aware of a bookie like this. Will advice people on arbusers forum too, and in any other gambling site. If loggin trought VPN (once time) and cover bets placed on shuffle on 3rd bookies (what do you care), give you the right to void all the bets, shuffle is not a saefty place where placing bets. ps. most of crypto people have vpn addons default on their browser so the risk to connect trought VPN is high.
Well it's directly prohibited, so you definitely broke the rules:
7.4. Any attempt to conceal your true location through the use of a VPN, proxy, or similar service or through the provision of incorrect or misleading information about your place of residence or location will constitute a breach of these Terms of Service.
So VPN rule alone would be enough depending how strict they want to be with the ToS. But hopefully you'll get your money back. Maybe you'll get a change to appeal again, and maybe they'll accept the reason that it's by an accident. Or maybe you are not telling something, like the fact you accidentally used same ip on that vpn that you had been used for alt account. We don't know as we only have your side about it. But obviously "accidentally" is going to be everyone's go-to excuse. Imho leaving the VPN on, could happen to anyone, but it's now just a matter of their interpretation. But after googling $shfl, i am pretty sure that you are not the only one getting this treatment. There are youtube influencers encouraging people to use VPN in shuffle, and twitter accounts admitting they are using vpn to get an airdrop. I am now actually hoping that these people get busted so that there will be less participants and bigger shares. sir i don't care about airdropp, or bonus...i just win betting. I have nordvpn extension on my browser, as 99% crypto people, no need to mask my ip, i am kyc2 verified, with id and proof of address that shows that my address is the same of my IP, expect for 1 time when i connect trought vpn in moldavia (and i do not place any bet in that case). I would be very happy if shuffle could answer here. So you are telling us that if an user access shuffle one time trought VPN, they have the right to void al his bets since the beginning? You think that this kind of rule could have a sense? But i repeat, i don't care about airdrop or bonus, i just want my winnings, nothing else, and i have not received 1 cent bonus. These are my bets, no surebets, no strange things just bets https://i.postimg.cc/VrvWJkmY/shufle1.jpg] 7.4. Any attempt to conceal your true location through the use of a VPN, proxy, or similar service or through the provision of incorrect or misleading information about your place of residence or location will constitute a breach of these Terms of Service.
So VPN rule alone would be enough depending how strict they want to be with the ToS. But hopefully you'll get your money back. Maybe you'll get a change to appeal again, and maybe they'll accept the reason that it's by an accident. Or maybe you are not telling something, like the fact you accidentally used same ip on that vpn that you had been used for alt account. We don't know as we only have your side about it. But obviously "accidentally" is going to be everyone's go-to excuse. Imho leaving the VPN on, could happen to anyone, but it's now just a matter of their interpretation. But after googling $shfl, i am pretty sure that you are not the only one getting this treatment. There are youtube influencers encouraging people to use VPN in shuffle, and twitter accounts admitting they are using vpn to get an airdrop. I am now actually hoping that these people get busted so that there will be less participants and bigger shares. [/quote] sir i don't care about airdropp, or bonus...i just win betting. I have nordvpn extension on my browser, as 99% crypto people, no need to mask my ip, i am kyc2 verified, with id and proof of address that shows that my address is the same of my IP, expect for 1 time when i connect trought vpn in moldavia (and i do not place any bet in that case). I would be very happy if shuffle could answer here. So you are telling us that if an user access shuffle one time trought VPN, they have the right to void al his bets since the beginning? You think that this kind of rule could have a sense? But i repeat, i don't care about airdrop or bonus, i just want my winnings, nothing else, and i have not received 1 cent bonus. These are my bets, no surebets, no strange things just bets https://i.postimg.cc/W36WfdyJ/shufle1.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/gJPtDVgW/suffle2.jpg
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sir i don't care about airdropp, or bonus...i just win betting. I have nordvpn extension on my browser, as 99% crypto people, no need to mask my ip, i am kyc2 verified, with id and proof of address that shows that my address is the same of my IP, expect for 1 time when i connect trought vpn in moldavia (and i do not place any bet in that case). I would be very happy if shuffle could answer here. So you are telling us that if an user access shuffle one time trought VPN, they have the right to void al his bets since the beginning? You think that this kind of rule could have a sense? But i repeat, i don't care about airdrop or bonus, i just want my winnings, nothing else, and i have not received 1 cent bonus. These are my bets, no surebets, no strange things just bets ]ndumm, care to weigh in? llateman100: I wouldn't worry, i didn't imply you were doing betting for an airdrop, and that wouldn't even matter. What i meant was, i am assuming that they might be doing mass banning several people using vpn, that were abusing vpn and creating accounts for it. And you might be collateral because of automation they need to use. So if that's the case, they are quite busy at that with the moment and you'll get your change to appeal when. The fact that aidrop announcement is late so much would support this theory. ndumm: And about that airdrop announcement that meant for last week. I really would hope shuffle would be more transparent if there's a problem and least that they would tell if they can't keep the deadline. As that creates trust and gives a caring signal. This is like promising a date and not showing up or answering to texts. I get it, you got your reasons, but ghosting after the deadline is just weird.
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