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Author Topic: ✨ Shuffle.com | The next generation of crypto casinos | Sports, Casino + token  (Read 18502 times)
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September 07, 2024, 09:35:08 PM
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Not gonna work.

You're admitted, it's multiple accounts no matter what's the reason. They will act based term & condition, not gonna process or response anymore for the case already clears especially the user already confirmed by them self opening multiple account.

Just moving on...... cause the chance are small or mostly 0%.

The terms say that if you create multiple accounts you will get your deposit only back and winnings get confiscated. Which is what should happen to me too. They have promised it in writing. Did you actually read the topic and see the screenshots?
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September 07, 2024, 10:20:05 PM
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Not gonna work.

You're admitted, it's multiple accounts no matter what's the reason. They will act based term & condition, not gonna process or response anymore for the case already clears especially the user already confirmed by them self opening multiple account.

Just moving on...... cause the chance are small or mostly 0%.

The terms say that if you create multiple accounts you will get your deposit only back and winnings get confiscated. Which is what should happen to me too. They have promised it in writing. Did you actually read the topic and see the screenshots?

It didn't say that you get your deposit back, it still under discretion of Shuffle management if they allow if they allow to make it happen. That's why it really better not to create multiple account or violate the casino terms since you will face this consequences.

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3.4. You are permitted to have only one Shuffle Account. If you attempt to open more than one Shuffle Account, any and all such accounts may be blocked, suspended or closed, and any sums credited to those accounts will be frozen and may be deducted. If you realise that you have opened more than one registered Shuffle Account you must notify us immediately by email at support@shuffle.com.

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9.4. If your Shuffle Account has been closed, locked, blocked or excluded and you wish to recover funds held in it, please contact Shuffle customer support at support@shuffle.com. We reserve the right to refuse to reopen or unlock your Shuffle Account or to allow withdrawals from it if we suspect that you are in breach of these Terms of Service or if we deem it necessary to do so for other reasons, and we may carry out additional KYC verification procedures and other checks for any withdrawal.

Read it here https://shuffle.com/info/terms

I guess the only thing you can do know is to wait for their response if they really promised to send back your funds. Creating unnecessary issue will not help your case and maybe it will irritate them and make them decide to make your case last longer. So try to move on and just follow up thru their support email since for now this is the best action to do especially you acknowledge that you violate their terms.


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September 08, 2024, 09:19:13 AM
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They actually didn't enter "at the perfect time". Shuffle was founded during 2022 - the peak of the bear market, amd continued building through 2023.


I meant that there seems to be growing need for casinos in the market. So markets aren't saturated by good casinos yet. I could have said just in time instead of perfect time, as perfect time was probably when biggest net casinos were born. Also i wasn't talking just about crypto gambling, even though essential part of shuffle is how it integrated with the crypto scene, i don't see crypto bull or bear market as significant. Because if mooning mattered more than gambling them, people would just hold their coins and make money that way.

And it's not just crypto casinos that are rising, "traditional" fiat money casinos are on fire as well, but it's probably just a matter of time until most of them accept crypto as well.


I believe not. It's not the perfect time for ANY casino to start building as a "crypto-only casino" during a bear market - when everyone doesn't want to buy and hold Bitcoin and altcoins/shitcoins. PLUS, how could you say that it's a "perfect time" if the biggest crypto casinos like Stake already have a first-mover advantage in the market?

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September 08, 2024, 03:33:19 PM
 #1204

I believe not. It's not the perfect time for ANY casino to start building as a "crypto-only casino" during a bear market - when everyone doesn't want to buy and hold Bitcoin and altcoins/shitcoins. PLUS, how could you say that it's a "perfect time" if the biggest crypto casinos like Stake already have a first-mover advantage in the market?
Perfect or not, it depends.

Users perhaps don't want to hold bitcoin, Ethereum and altcoins in a bear market but only very smart and experienced people can exit and won't stuck in a bear market. In addition, some people willhold stable coin and have less risk of falls like non stable coins. Obviously with stable coins, there is another risk type, depeg.

During bear market that lasts about two years, people feel boring, disappointed with market and possibly switch to playing games, betting.

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September 08, 2024, 03:40:18 PM
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Well, I guess you're the one who has not read the terms & conditions. In part 3.4 it's clear your money is getting seized, and part 9.4 is also on their decision (thanks to other fellow member forum who mentioned the term & condition). My advice is quite simple, If they ignore you (mostly your case is rejected). Moving on, cause the one who makes these problems is your self. If you do not multi-account, then these will never came.

You can also create a thread or case topic in the most popular site reviews like "CASINO GURU" with a good experience from third parties service. They, will stick on the casino side cause you're admitted the case is breached by your self. Term & condition is basically like "law", if you breach it + admitted = dead ends for you.



If you said to me, does the casino have policy refund the initial deposit? Yes, in other casino BK8 they refunded the initial deposit but with some conditions. The player has no record of playing + not withdrawn any money he was depsoit (basically the money still 100% raw from the deposit). But, If you already play and withdraw (mostly in profit), initial deposit refund is no longer can be made, they will closed your account and seize any money in the account.

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September 08, 2024, 06:28:14 PM
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I believe not. It's not the perfect time for ANY casino to start building as a "crypto-only casino" during a bear market - when everyone doesn't want to buy and hold Bitcoin and altcoins/shitcoins. ..

For a casino, there is no difference whether the market is bullish or bearish. In this case, Bitcoin is just a form of payment for your participation in the casino, and in this case it does not matter whether you are a BTC holder or a waiter in a cafe.

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September 08, 2024, 07:10:00 PM
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I believe not. It's not the perfect time for ANY casino to start building as a "crypto-only casino" during a bear market - when everyone doesn't want to buy and hold Bitcoin and altcoins/shitcoins. ..

For a casino, there is no difference whether the market is bullish or bearish. In this case, Bitcoin is just a form of payment for your participation in the casino, and in this case it does not matter whether you are a BTC holder or a waiter in a cafe.
Yeah this is no difference even if the market is bearish people will still play a lot in the casino, there is still an alternative if the price of bitcoin fluctuates greatly then they can switch to stablecoins... Casinos have offered many options for deposits, players will never decrease.

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September 09, 2024, 08:39:21 AM
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I believe not. It's not the perfect time for ANY casino to start building as a "crypto-only casino" during a bear market - when everyone doesn't want to buy and hold Bitcoin and altcoins/shitcoins. PLUS, how could you say that it's a "perfect time" if the biggest crypto casinos like Stake already have a first-mover advantage in the market?


Perfect or not, it depends.


It depends on the market if it's a bull cycle or a bear cycle, it depends on if the users are optimistic or pessimistic, it would also depend on the strength of the other casinos that would become their competitors. During 2022, it was a bear cycle, everyone was pessimistic, plus Stake and Sportsbet are both very VERY strong competitors which I believe hold most of the market among crypto casinos. Although Shuffle is successful today, it was NOT a "perfect time" to launch and build a crypto casino during 2022.

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September 09, 2024, 10:04:21 AM
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For a casino, there is no difference whether the market is bullish or bearish. In this case, Bitcoin is just a form of payment for your participation in the casino, and in this case it does not matter whether you are a BTC holder or a waiter in a cafe.
The market status affects centralized exchanges and gambling sites in trading and betting volume that will have impact on their business income and revenue.

When prices of cryptocurrencies fall 80% or 90% in bear market, it affects value of tradings and bettings too. It's not true to say centralized exchanges or gambling sites only care what they got in customer fees in cryptocurrencies but don't care about value of these things. They have to pay staffs with money in different forms and maybe not in cryptocurrencies.

With users, when they are in losses, it's hard for them to feel good and continue trading or gambling. It is capitulation phase in any bear market when almost everything looks to be very boring and negative.

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September 09, 2024, 11:14:51 AM
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Yeah this is no difference even if the market is bearish people will still play a lot in the casino, there is still an alternative if the price of bitcoin fluctuates greatly then they can switch to stablecoins... Casinos have offered many options for deposits, players will never decrease.

I can assume that many casino users have never dealt with Bitcoins and other cryptocurrencies at all, providing their deposit at the casino with fiat. And they play in casinos for the only reason that it is a great pastime for them, and not a desire to increase their deposit in BTC.

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September 09, 2024, 12:06:01 PM
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Yeah this is no difference even if the market is bearish people will still play a lot in the casino, there is still an alternative if the price of bitcoin fluctuates greatly then they can switch to stablecoins... Casinos have offered many options for deposits, players will never decrease.

I can assume that many casino users have never dealt with Bitcoins and other cryptocurrencies at all, providing their deposit at the casino with fiat. And they play in casinos for the only reason that it is a great pastime for them, and not a desire to increase their deposit in BTC.

Dealing with market volatility is not a concern of the gamblers since they are not doing any trades of any coin they used to deposit. But rather what usually people think is they want to have fun or either target to hit bigger multipliers.

We see how market collapsed from the past and we able to see that lots of reputable casino survive. So that means price of bitcoin or any other coins is not big deal for gamblers.

Maybe they might look at the figures in dollars to get when they win, but provably they could just deal with it and just take their winnings without thinking about negative thoughts on the market movement.

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September 09, 2024, 12:27:49 PM
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Yeah this is no difference even if the market is bearish people will still play a lot in the casino, there is still an alternative if the price of bitcoin fluctuates greatly then they can switch to stablecoins... Casinos have offered many options for deposits, players will never decrease.

I can assume that many casino users have never dealt with Bitcoins and other cryptocurrencies at all, providing their deposit at the casino with fiat. And they play in casinos for the only reason that it is a great pastime for them, and not a desire to increase their deposit in BTC.


Fiat users = Yes, Bitcoin/crypto users = It's a fact that many of them sort of understand and probably have learned about cryptocurrency basics and perhaps also exposed to its ethos. For me personally, I never gambled before with fiat, and if I never learned about Bitcoin and crypto, I probably would never have gambled in an internet casino.


Maybe they might look at the figures in dollars to get when they win, but provably they could just deal with it and just take their winnings without thinking about negative thoughts on the market movement.


If you gamble in Bitcoin, denominate it in Bitcoin. The value of each satoshi will take care of itself.

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September 09, 2024, 01:18:01 PM
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what kind of VIP transfer shuffle offers?
I have 1M wager plat lvl account in rollbit
I wager around 50k a month, but i am not sure its enough for extra vip benefits although that would be extremely nice, I would like to main shuffle only if I will get a good reason.

I did request shuffle support to check my eligibility, after I provided proof of my wagers, Waiting for answer.

I will update what happened, they said usually they require minimum 400k wager a month but its way over my limit.

All things aside i still enjoy shuffle more then stake or Rollbit, house games and rewards are good/
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Dealing with market volatility is not a concern of the gamblers since they are not doing any trades of any coin they used to deposit. But rather what usually people think is they want to have fun or either target to hit bigger multipliers.
If they don't gamble directly with price like Price prediction, they will not care about price and most of gamblers don't care about it.

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We see how market collapsed from the past and we able to see that lots of reputable casino survive. So that means price of bitcoin or any other coins is not big deal for gamblers.
As said, they can lose money to market fall but gamble and losing or winning more money through bets is different thing. Mostly it does not relate to changes in cryptocurrency market because they barely bets on gambling sites with price changes of cryptocurrency.

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Maybe they might look at the figures in dollars to get when they win, but provably they could just deal with it and just take their winnings without thinking about negative thoughts on the market movement.
Yes, this is true. They use like x satoshi that equals to $50 for bet and will consider how much they get at the end, like win up to $60, $100 or lose to $40, $25. In short term they mostly look at $ value but in long term, if they bet in bear market, lose money they will probably regret a lot in bull run. Losing 0.1 BTC in a bear market is different than losing 0.1 BTC and a bull run with price is x2 or x4 from bottom.

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September 09, 2024, 01:40:58 PM
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what kind of VIP transfer shuffle offers?
I have 1M wager plat lvl account in rollbit
I wager around 50k a month, but i am not sure its enough for extra vip benefits although that would be extremely nice, I would like to main shuffle only if I will get a good reason.

I did request shuffle support to check my eligibility, after I provided proof of my wagers, Waiting for answer.

I will update what happened, they said usually they require minimum 400k wager a month but its way over my limit.

All things aside i still enjoy shuffle more then stake or Rollbit, house games and rewards are good/

Only heard about it on reddit about VIP transfer but don't know if this is still working , we also don't know what benefits Shuffle offer to their VIP transferees so I guess you will just wait on their response if they allow you to transfer and what reward or benefits you can get from this program.

If they confirm that this offer still up then I guess its better to update this here since for sure that lots of people will get interested to know more about this VIP transfer.

But if you are interested on VIP transfer promotion then maybe more better if you scroll down a little bit on threads in gambling section since there is a casino currently offering a VIP transfer program. Don't want to mention the name of the casino since I don't want to hijack this thread.

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September 09, 2024, 02:04:13 PM
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what kind of VIP transfer shuffle offers?
I have 1M wager plat lvl account in rollbit
I wager around 50k a month, but i am not sure its enough for extra vip benefits although that would be extremely nice, I would like to main shuffle only if I will get a good reason.

I did request shuffle support to check my eligibility, after I provided proof of my wagers, Waiting for answer.

I will update what happened, they said usually they require minimum 400k wager a month but its way over my limit.

All things aside i still enjoy shuffle more then stake or Rollbit, house games and rewards are good/

Only heard about it on reddit about VIP transfer but don't know if this is still working , we also don't know what benefits Shuffle offer to their VIP transferees so I guess you will just wait on their response if they allow you to transfer and what reward or benefits you can get from this program.

If they confirm that this offer still up then I guess its better to update this here since for sure that lots of people will get interested to know more about this VIP transfer.

But if you are interested on VIP transfer promotion then maybe more better if you scroll down a little bit on threads in gambling section since there is a casino currently offering a VIP transfer program. Don't want to mention the name of the casino since I don't want to hijack this thread.

Thank you for the insight, i truly like shuffle but as a player i look to maximize my benefits, i understand casino want loyal players its not easy to keep them unless you offer the best VIP program.

When i just started at Rollbit they had temporary Loyalty bonus, you asked support and they checked account, I was rewarded 300$ no wager required straight cash and i was kind of new on their platform, this is one of the reasons i only gambled on rollbit for quite a while, They had amazing reward system at the start as well but now i am not fan of it anymore with all the changes.
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September 09, 2024, 02:13:16 PM
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what kind of VIP transfer shuffle offers?
I have 1M wager plat lvl account in rollbit
I wager around 50k a month, but i am not sure its enough for extra vip benefits although that would be extremely nice, I would like to main shuffle only if I will get a good reason.

I did request shuffle support to check my eligibility, after I provided proof of my wagers, Waiting for answer.

I will update what happened, they said usually they require minimum 400k wager a month but its way over my limit.

All things aside i still enjoy shuffle more then stake or Rollbit, house games and rewards are good/

Can you share here where do you get this information about VIP transfer? It’s not available on their social media channel which should be posting any major promotions such as this since they frequently post there even the airdrop announcements.

I was mistakenly assume that this is Metawin thread since they are one of the casino right now with active VIP transfer promotion. I will be happy to avail this one too if ever this promotion is still active. I’m surprised that this topic is not discussed here so far.

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September 09, 2024, 02:27:27 PM
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what kind of VIP transfer shuffle offers?
I have 1M wager plat lvl account in rollbit
I wager around 50k a month, but i am not sure its enough for extra vip benefits although that would be extremely nice, I would like to main shuffle only if I will get a good reason.

I did request shuffle support to check my eligibility, after I provided proof of my wagers, Waiting for answer.

I will update what happened, they said usually they require minimum 400k wager a month but its way over my limit.

All things aside i still enjoy shuffle more then stake or Rollbit, house games and rewards are good/

Can you share here where do you get this information about VIP transfer? It’s not available on their social media channel which should be posting any major promotions such as this since they frequently post there even the airdrop announcements.

I was mistakenly assume that this is Metawin thread since they are one of the casino right now with active VIP transfer promotion. I will be happy to avail this one too if ever this promotion is still active. I’m surprised that this topic is not discussed here so far.
Well there is nothing on social media but it never hurts to ask, so I just asked support and now I am waiting for VIP shuffle team to decide, I am not big gambler by any means but I am consistent with my monthly deposits and wagering, usually wagering between 50-100k a month
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September 09, 2024, 03:09:59 PM
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what kind of VIP transfer shuffle offers?
I have 1M wager plat lvl account in rollbit
I wager around 50k a month, but i am not sure its enough for extra vip benefits although that would be extremely nice, I would like to main shuffle only if I will get a good reason.

I did request shuffle support to check my eligibility, after I provided proof of my wagers, Waiting for answer.

I will update what happened, they said usually they require minimum 400k wager a month but its way over my limit.

All things aside i still enjoy shuffle more then stake or Rollbit, house games and rewards are good/

Can you share here where do you get this information about VIP transfer? It’s not available on their social media channel which should be posting any major promotions such as this since they frequently post there even the airdrop announcements.

I was mistakenly assume that this is Metawin thread since they are one of the casino right now with active VIP transfer promotion. I will be happy to avail this one too if ever this promotion is still active. I’m surprised that this topic is not discussed here so far.
Well there is nothing on social media but it never hurts to ask, so I just asked support and now I am waiting for VIP shuffle team to decide,

I’m not judging men, I’m just asking where do you get the idea about this promotion that push you to inquire with the support? I’m sure you saw this promotion somewhere else before you contact the support right?

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I am not big gambler by any means but I am consistent with my monthly deposits and wagering, usually wagering between 50-100k a month

I’m sure you will get a VIP transfer if ever they really have with this kind of wager in monthly basis. Keep us updated if you manage get VIP transfer, I might try to contact the support too now.

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September 09, 2024, 03:35:22 PM
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Have you people noticed how low price is working for anyone's advantage who is holding $shfl? When price is low, they afford to burn more, and volume has been so amount of tokens burned raises with that.
They have now burned over half of the circulating supply. Can you name other tokens that are burning on this rate to circulating supply?



At some point there will be mainly holders that don't sell it for burning, at least not with these prices.

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