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[Mahdirakib]

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I don't have any SHFL token as well. The chance is very low to win prizes from this type of raffle. You will rarely see anyone to win the jackpot by having the combination of 5 lucky numbers and the one power ball. I have participated on similar type of lottery rounds on a different casino a lot of times. There are 36 normal numbers and 10 jackpot ball. Only one participant has won $100k jackpot prize from their lottery system until now. They are running it on a weekly basis since last few years.

Where Shuffle lottery system have 55 normal numbers and 18 power ball. It will be more difficult to win prizes from here unless we are extremely lucky.

[o48o]

Thanks for trying to explain it, and i really hope i am wrong about this, but it's still not clear for me. What exactly they mean by non-SHFL net-gaming revenue?

Because i thought that was revenue from everything but $shfl gambling.

And that SHFL NGR (30%) revenue would come from gambling with $SHFL. Meaning that all revenue would be in shfl anyway. So how can you use that for buying SHFL back from the market?

You couldn't, you would just burn 30% of the lost tokens, which wouldn't be anything compared to buyback from NON shfl NGR when incentive to gamble with shfl stops after the 3rd airdrop.

Or maybe i am confused because of the naming of that system. But if i am correct assuming this, i disagree that "actual demand" would be in any way better or that actual demand would be less because of NON SHFL NGR buyback.

I'm honestly not that sure where the money for the buybacks of the "non-net-gaming-revenue" comes from. But their post says that the SHFL Foundation will stop non-net-gaming-revenue buybacks, which probably means the money to buyback comes from the SHFL Foundation's wallets to buy SHFL and HODL them. The 15% non-net-gaming-revenue buybacks were for the SHFL Foundation's wallets to HODL, not burn.

The 30% buyback and burn from net-gaming-revenue will continue, and from your point of view nothing actually changed in their buyback and burn design/strategy.

Respectfully, "foundation's wallets" doesn't make any sense to me. They get their profits from NON shfl NGR anyway, so they wouldn't call it SHFL Net Gaming Revenue? And what would be "30%" in that?

Only version that makes sense to me is that they mean that they burn 30% of lost shuffle tokens. And that's not "buyback" and burn, it's just burning 30% of the shfl tokens lost in the gambling by users.

[MegaAkker]

Hey guys, I got about 270 usd worth of Shuffle tokens and I want to sell them but I found out only very few exchanges offer selling Shuffle tokens and I am not a member in those exchanges. I dont want to go thought the long process of opening and verifying an account there so am looking for someone here who wants to help me and make some money. Has to be a member with at least 100 postings.
Who wants to exchange 671 shuffle tokens worth 270 usd gor 2 mbtc? It means you make about double profit.
I will send the shuffle tokens first and then you send me 2 mbtc so there is no risk.

In case anyone wants it, dm me please

[BABY SHOES]

Hey guys, I got about 270 usd worth of Shuffle tokens and I want to sell them but I found out only very few exchanges offer selling Shuffle tokens and I am not a member in those exchanges. I dont want to go thought the long process of opening and verifying an account there so am looking for someone here who wants to help me and make some money. Has to be a member with at least 100 postings.
Who wants to exchange 671 shuffle tokens worth 270 usd gor 2 mbtc? It means you make about double profit.
I will send the shuffle tokens first and then you send me 2 mbtc so there is no risk.

In case anyone wants it, dm me please

Token Shuffle is only available on the XT.com exchange or you can use DEX Uniswap to do it.
I know you don't want to go through a longer process but it's safer for you to sell there.

Too good to be true!!!
671 SHFL worth $331 at current price then you want to exchange for 2mbtc worth $134 at current price? Who doesn't want double the profit but many people will be cautious even if you offer the option to send first.

After all, think realistically... you can trade with Uniswap without the KYC verification process... It's easier.
No one wants to trade down to a much lower rate except you.

[avp2306]

Hey guys, I got about 270 usd worth of Shuffle tokens and I want to sell them but I found out only very few exchanges offer selling Shuffle tokens and I am not a member in those exchanges. I dont want to go thought the long process of opening and verifying an account there so am looking for someone here who wants to help me and make some money. Has to be a member with at least 100 postings.
Who wants to exchange 671 shuffle tokens worth 270 usd gor 2 mbtc? It means you make about double profit.
I will send the shuffle tokens first and then you send me 2 mbtc so there is no risk.

In case anyone wants it, dm me please

You can sell it on Uniswap since this is more decent exchange where you can sell your $SHFL, also it has a decent volume there. You don't need to open an account there since you just need a metamask then connect your wallet there after that you can sell your SHFL in that exchange. KYC is not needed so there's no need to ask for help to any random people here so for your own safety better sell it on your own since the process is so easy.

Your offer is somehow to good to be true just like what other say but if you send first maybe people could really take that, Also be careful upon doing that first since as said to many scammers are just lurking waiting for opportunity to attack so always deal with reputable people.

[tbct_mt2]

Token Shuffle is only available on the XT.com exchange or you can use DEX Uniswap to do it.
I know you don't want to go through a longer process but it's safer for you to sell there.

Too good to be true!!!
671 SHFL worth $331 at current price then you want to exchange for 2mbtc worth $134 at current price? Who doesn't want double the profit but many people will be cautious even if you offer the option to send first.

After all, think realistically... you can trade with Uniswap without the KYC verification process... It's easier.
No one wants to trade down to a much lower rate except you.

If I have to choose between XT.com exchange (centralized exchange) and Uniswap (decentralized exchange), I would like to choose Uniswap exchange. It's a DEX, so no KYC and quick check on Coinmarketcap, will give me more reason to use Uniswap.

Available markets for SHFL token shows about 54% of trading volume of this token is on Uniswap, it's impressive enough.

With this stats for Uniswap, I believe there is big liquidity for SHFL token on it. You can check it for confirmation with Dexscreener too.
https://dexscreener.com/search?q=0x8881562783028F5c1BCB985d2283D5E170D88888

Liquidity pool for SHFL/USDC is about $13.7M, so no reason to use XT.com centralized exchange.

[BABY SHOES]

A little news from noah that Sherbet casino has now been acquired by Shuffle.com it will be transitioned to Shuffle, noah also said that he will close Sherbet casino well during the update probably this week.

Users who have their balances on sherbet will remain safe, make sure those of you who have accounts on sherbet don't miss the other updates.

[1] https://x.com/noahdummett/status/1848159309546557806

[Wind_FURY]

Thanks for trying to explain it, and i really hope i am wrong about this, but it's still not clear for me. What exactly they mean by non-SHFL net-gaming revenue?

Because i thought that was revenue from everything but $shfl gambling.

And that SHFL NGR (30%) revenue would come from gambling with $SHFL. Meaning that all revenue would be in shfl anyway. So how can you use that for buying SHFL back from the market?

You couldn't, you would just burn 30% of the lost tokens, which wouldn't be anything compared to buyback from NON shfl NGR when incentive to gamble with shfl stops after the 3rd airdrop.

Or maybe i am confused because of the naming of that system. But if i am correct assuming this, i disagree that "actual demand" would be in any way better or that actual demand would be less because of NON SHFL NGR buyback.

I'm honestly not that sure where the money for the buybacks of the "non-net-gaming-revenue" comes from. But their post says that the SHFL Foundation will stop non-net-gaming-revenue buybacks, which probably means the money to buyback comes from the SHFL Foundation's wallets to buy SHFL and HODL them. The 15% non-net-gaming-revenue buybacks were for the SHFL Foundation's wallets to HODL, not burn.

The 30% buyback and burn from net-gaming-revenue will continue, and from your point of view nothing actually changed in their buyback and burn design/strategy.

Respectfully, "foundation's wallets" doesn't make any sense to me. They get their profits from NON shfl NGR anyway, so they wouldn't call it SHFL Net Gaming Revenue? And what would be "30%" in that?

But Shuffle.com and the SHFL Foundation are different entities, ser. Shuffle.com's burn that's taken from Net Gaming Revenue will continue as before, but the SHFL Foundations buybacks of SHFL tokens for their wallets will currently be stopped in favor of providing funds for Shuffle.com's lotteries.

Only version that makes sense to me is that they mean that they burn 30% of lost shuffle tokens. And that's not "buyback" and burn, it's just burning 30% of the shfl tokens lost in the gambling by users.

I believe it's Net Gaming Revenue as posted by Shuffle's admins. But, respectfully from pleb to pleb, if you don't believe in the token anymore, it's absolutely OK to sell if you're not happy with the decision. But their decision might be final.

  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[o48o]

But Shuffle.com and the SHFL Foundation are different entities, ser. Shuffle.com's burn that's taken from Net Gaming Revenue will continue as before, but the SHFL Foundations buybacks of SHFL tokens for their wallets will currently be stopped in favor of providing funds for Shuffle.com's lotteries.

Only version that makes sense to me is that they mean that they burn 30% of lost shuffle tokens. And that's not "buyback" and burn, it's just burning 30% of the shfl tokens lost in the gambling by users.

I believe it's Net Gaming Revenue as posted by Shuffle's admins. But, respectfully from pleb to pleb, if you don't believe in the token anymore, it's absolutely OK to sell if you're not happy with the decision. But their decision might be final.
  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I am still confused what would non-shfl NGR be, if not that same Net Gaming Revenue you are referring to. I thought that SHFL foundation was an entity just for handling $shfl token economics.
But yeah, i would like to believe this token, but when they take radical steps changing fundamentals like this (if i am correct with my interpretation, i just can't really trust it anymore.

And i really really wouldn't want to seem like i am fudding here, and every fiber in me is saying that i should shut up and keep it to myself.
But i am not build like that, and i would really want to be wrong here. I am not sure if OP still visits in here, so maybe i will try to get some clarity from elsewhere.

[Wind_FURY]

But Shuffle.com and the SHFL Foundation are different entities, ser. Shuffle.com's burn that's taken from Net Gaming Revenue will continue as before, but the SHFL Foundations buybacks of SHFL tokens for their wallets will currently be stopped in favor of providing funds for Shuffle.com's lotteries.

Only version that makes sense to me is that they mean that they burn 30% of lost shuffle tokens. And that's not "buyback" and burn, it's just burning 30% of the shfl tokens lost in the gambling by users.

I believe it's Net Gaming Revenue as posted by Shuffle's admins. But, respectfully from pleb to pleb, if you don't believe in the token anymore, it's absolutely OK to sell if you're not happy with the decision. But their decision might be final.
  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I am still confused what would non-shfl NGR be, if not that same Net Gaming Revenue you are referring to. I thought that SHFL foundation was an entity just for handling $shfl token economics.

But yeah, i would like to believe this token, but when they take radical steps changing fundamentals like this (if i am correct with my interpretation, i just can't really trust it anymore.

And i really really wouldn't want to seem like i am fudding here, and every fiber in me is saying that i should shut up and keep it to myself.

But i am not build like that, and i would really want to be wrong here. I am not sure if OP still visits in here, so maybe i will try to get some clarity from elsewhere.

OK, I was also becoming very confused, and I re-read everything. Non-SHFL Net Gaming Revenue is net revenue that probably comes from Non-SHFL wagers made in the casino. You're right, it might remove a large portion of the "demand". But you should also remember that that's actually ARTIFICIAL demand, and they use precious resources to buyback SHFL just to burn? It's definitely better to use that to improve the casino if you ask me, WHICH will increase ACTUAL DEMAND for SHFL. They merely replaced a short term solution with a long term solution.  

[Wind_FURY]

There's a new announcement from Noah!

Today, Shuffle signed a letter of intent to acquire @Sherbet.

Sherbet launched a little before we did, and we considered them a serious competitor in our early days. They never quite hit their stride in the same way that we did, but we respect the way they build product and brand, and have thoroughly enjoyed the time spent with their team over the past week as we've been figuring out what this deal looks like.

With this acquisition, we'll be gracefully winding down their operations and offering the smoothest transition possible for all of their current users - plenty more details to come on that shortly. We're committed to ensuring that all Sherbet users enjoy their new home at Shuffle; to be absolutely clear, Sherbet user balances are (and have always been) entirely safe.

Over the course of this week, you'll see more comms from their team about how this transition will look for all involved. We're excited to get this done, happy to answer any questions in the meantime.

https://x.com/noahdummett/status/1848159309546557806

Does everyone remember Sherbet? I believe they also had a signature campaign here in BitcoinTalk, and they looked to be on a path to be one of the most successful crypto casinos. Shuffle has announced that they'll be acquiring Sherbet.

    👀

I believe that as a business strategy, that acquisition will definitely grow Shuffle's number of users easier than working on the harder way of marketing and promotions. Good business strategy by Noah. 👍

[AHOYBRAUSE]

There's a new announcement from Noah!

Does everyone remember Sherbet? I believe they also had a signature campaign here in BitcoinTalk, and they looked to be on a path to be one of the most successful crypto casinos. Shuffle has announced that they'll be acquiring Sherbet.

    👀

I believe that as a business strategy, that acquisition will definitely grow Shuffle's number of users easier than working on the harder way of marketing and promotions. Good business strategy by Noah. 👍

Yeah I remember them. It's actually not that long ago, like 1.5 years. I remember back then I checked the site out for a minute but wasn't really impressed actually. I think at the end of the the campaign, which actually ran several months, there were even some issues with pending payments from the site, maybe that was already an indication that the site on it's own won't be there much longer.

Anyway, it's always smart to take over smaller casinos and their existing player base. Maybe these players can expect a little "takeover welcome bonus" or something like that.  Hopefully they got a good deal.

[BABY SHOES]

Does everyone remember Sherbet? I believe they also had a signature campaign here in BitcoinTalk,

Yeahh still remember the Sherbet casino a few years ago which was managed by Royse but Sherbet is said to still have debts to AB de Royse777 management but I don't know how it is now... maybe they have made contact with Sherbet.

[ryzaadit]

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Man, they buy Sherbets.

Sherbets was quite active in Bitcointalk around Feb, 2023. It's just around 1 years+, they are shutdown and getting transfer into Shuffle. These could be a proof, gambling industry right now is not quite easy especially for a new casino who want to compete with old casino with a bigger bankroll.


At least is ended in a good way, not scam other people.

[Odusko]

Hey guys, I got about 270 usd worth of Shuffle tokens and I want to sell them but I found out only very few exchanges offer selling Shuffle tokens and I am not a member in those exchanges. I dont want to go thought the long process of opening and verifying an account there so am looking for someone here who wants to help me and make some money. Has to be a member with at least 100 postings.
Who wants to exchange 671 shuffle tokens worth 270 usd gor 2 mbtc? It means you make about double profit.
I will send the shuffle tokens first and then you send me 2 mbtc so there is no risk.

In case anyone wants it, dm me please

Are you going to send first and also willing to use escrow service, because this is cryptocurrency space none Trust any and for that I am not saying you should Trust a high rank members that offer to deal with you unless if you are willing to risk it so this kind of deal is mostly advice that it should be done through and third party escrow service providers, also share more details about your offer, or even better still make a thread on exchange board with your offer but I doubt if anyone will easily trust you on this claim unless you are going to give more details and ready to let go of the coin first.

On another note, I think also you should research about the coin and which excahge it being listed on and to try exchanging them yourself, also I think shuffle team should have a feature on their site that allows users to excahge their shuffle coins easily.

[notocactus]

Does everyone remember Sherbet? I believe they also had a signature campaign here in BitcoinTalk, and they looked to be on a path to be one of the most successful crypto casinos. Shuffle has announced that they'll be acquiring Sherbet.

They have a signature campaign too but the Sherbet team did not resolve all things before selling their platform to Shuffle.com. You can see a complain from AB de Royse777 in an announcement thread of Sherbet.

I post this only to inform Shuffle team about this case, and hopefully both Shuffle team and Sherbet team will resolve this case smoothly.

Please request withdrawal if you have balance in Sherbet. There are some payment from Sherbet is still due (Signature Campaign Payment), I sent an email to the new owner of Shuffle, I don't expect them to pay the due bill that Sherbet was supposed to pay but I do expect that they talk about it with Sherbet team (It seems Sherbet removed contact with me) and find out if there are other people like us. Sherbet team needs to settle their debts.

[panjul07]

Does everyone remember Sherbet? I believe they also had a signature campaign here in BitcoinTalk, and they looked to be on a path to be one of the most successful crypto casinos. Shuffle has announced that they'll be acquiring Sherbet.

Of course I remembered because I played there in their early days and I participated in their promotions.
My last play when I received a bonus and I managed to turn the bonus into $400+ after completing the wagering requirement although I could withdraw $100 only due to the terms.
I'm surprised to read this news, seems that sherbet give up to compete with other existing casino so they have to sell it.
Shuffle bought it and I'm curious what will Noah do with sherbet..

[Wind_FURY]

There's a new announcement from Noah!

Does everyone remember Sherbet? I believe they also had a signature campaign here in BitcoinTalk, and they looked to be on a path to be one of the most successful crypto casinos. Shuffle has announced that they'll be acquiring Sherbet.

    👀

I believe that as a business strategy, that acquisition will definitely grow Shuffle's number of users easier than working on the harder way of marketing and promotions. Good business strategy by Noah. 👍

Yeah I remember them. It's actually not that long ago, like 1.5 years. I remember back then I checked the site out for a minute but wasn't really impressed actually. I think at the end of the the campaign, which actually ran several months, there were even some issues with pending payments from the site, maybe that was already an indication that the site on it's own won't be there much longer.

Anyway, it's always smart to take over smaller casinos and their existing player base. Maybe these players can expect a little "takeover welcome bonus" or something like that. 

  👍

That's the easier path to gain, and capture more users in my opinion. Plus I don't believe Shuffle would offer them such bonuses because Shuffle taking over, then assuring them of problem-free cash-outs would be a sort better than a bonus than if Sherbet's team continued operating the casino.

Hopefully they got a good deal.

Perhaps they did, because Noah wouldn't agree if it wasn't a good deal, no?

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Does everyone remember Sherbet? I believe they also had a signature campaign here in BitcoinTalk, and they looked to be on a path to be one of the most successful crypto casinos. Shuffle has announced that they'll be acquiring Sherbet.

Of course I remembered because I played there in their early days and I participated in their promotions.
My last play when I received a bonus and I managed to turn the bonus into $400+ after completing the wagering requirement although I could withdraw $100 only due to the terms.
I'm surprised to read this news, seems that sherbet give up to compete with other existing casino so they have to sell it.
Shuffle bought it and I'm curious what will Noah do with sherbet..

It's not surprising to me to be sure, even though I feel a bit of shock to see that sherbet had been sold or is been sold, and a big congratulations to shuffle for being in a good position to acquire the casino, that's a very good move and one I believe will possibly take shuffle to better heights.

I know about sherbet very well, I did not participate in their signature ad campaign on this forum but I remember very well when it was running, and I did signed up an account on the casino at the time, I think I only deposited $5 to the casino and played, lost it all and never did another deposit, it was a good casino to be fair, but as I understand, there are people who are doing real estate in tech, their job is to build and sell, or buy and resell.

[avp2306]

There's a new announcement from Noah!

Today, Shuffle signed a letter of intent to acquire @Sherbet.

Sherbet launched a little before we did, and we considered them a serious competitor in our early days. They never quite hit their stride in the same way that we did, but we respect the way they build product and brand, and have thoroughly enjoyed the time spent with their team over the past week as we've been figuring out what this deal looks like.

With this acquisition, we'll be gracefully winding down their operations and offering the smoothest transition possible for all of their current users - plenty more details to come on that shortly. We're committed to ensuring that all Sherbet users enjoy their new home at Shuffle; to be absolutely clear, Sherbet user balances are (and have always been) entirely safe.

Over the course of this week, you'll see more comms from their team about how this transition will look for all involved. We're excited to get this done, happy to answer any questions in the meantime.

https://x.com/noahdummett/status/1848159309546557806

Does everyone remember Sherbet? I believe they also had a signature campaign here in BitcoinTalk, and they looked to be on a path to be one of the most successful crypto casinos. Shuffle has announced that they'll be acquiring Sherbet.

    👀

I believe that as a business strategy, that acquisition will definitely grow Shuffle's number of users easier than working on the harder way of marketing and promotions. Good business strategy by Noah. 👍

Yeah I'm part of that campaign. But I didn't get bother much towards campaign payments since  situation like that happens and don't expect much anything related to repayment to their old campaigners.

Also didn't expect that Shuffle team will pay what Sherbet left to people since somehow its not their obligation to pay those dues. If Sherbet has a good team they are the one should pay it especially that they provably get something from Shuffle, but nothing happen so that means Sherbet team don't have any plans to pay their past obligations to some people here.

I don't know if acquisition of sherbet is really a good decision to take knowing that casino became inactive for long time and most provably that their old costumers will just get their balance left their and leave.