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September 12, 2023, 02:22:53 PM
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As far as I know there is no gambler who only gambles once a week because it is an addictive drug like cigarettes which is hard to give up. On the other hand you cannot earn certain money from gambling so it is not really ideal in your personal life. According to me rich people can gamble because they have enough money to back up but a common man can be destitute when he gambles. I gamble but when I have more capital it is a secret from the society and I don't always tell the family. I expand the money I earn from gambling into other businesses but always keep my thoughts straight.

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September 12, 2023, 03:05:59 PM
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I want to ask those of you who have a hard addiction experience in gambling and then you can treat it yourself, and today still playing gambling but with the principle of good management and financial management in gambling.
I want to know how you break away from the addiction, you can mention the actions taken or what kind of steps? And how long do you need time to break away from the addiction that has been experienced?

"I want to find out because I think your experience in the case as I mentioned will be useful for readers, especially for me personally"

Yes. That exactly describes my situation. I once in my lifetime lost all my savings on gambling. 5 digit sum in usd. Had panic attacks and suicidal thoughts. I didn't seek medical advice but was consulted by friends and family. I can't say I'm totally in control of my gambling but till date after the incident, I have remained calm and not lost more than I was thinking of as my betting budget. There were times I lost quicker than I thought, or some spare coins I was thinking of doing something else. But not even in 3 digits sum.



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September 12, 2023, 03:14:22 PM
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I want to ask those of you who have a hard addiction experience in gambling and then you can treat it yourself, and today still playing gambling but with the principle of good management and financial management in gambling.
I want to know how you break away from the addiction, you can mention the actions taken or what kind of steps? And how long do you need time to break away from the addiction that has been experienced?

"I want to find out because I think your experience in the case as I mentioned will be useful for readers, especially for me personally"
Yes it is best decision to learn only from someone who has experience. Because those who have experience have the best practical knowledge of a things. Educational knowledge alone cannot make anyone successful. If one has experience, even if he has no educational knowledge, he is capable of doing good things more than an educated person. So knowing something from an experienced person is most helpful



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September 12, 2023, 03:14:37 PM
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Yes. That exactly describes my situation. I once in my lifetime lost all my savings on gambling. 5 digit sum in usd. Had panic attacks and suicidal thoughts. I didn't seek medical advice but was consulted by friends and family. I can't say I'm totally in control of my gambling but till date after the incident, I have remained calm and not lost more than I was thinking of as my betting budget. There were times I lost quicker than I thought, or some spare coins I was thinking of doing something else. But not even in 3 digits sum.

My friend, I hope you just made that up to write this post as a simple requirement to meet your posting quota in this section, otherwise I don't know what the hell you are doing writing in this section and continuing to gamble.

If you once lost your life savings you have to stop gambling forever, and think about gambling as little as possible, because you are one step away from losing it all again and even more (there are those who besides losing everything they have, ask for loans and lose them too).

I want to know how you break away from the addiction, you can mention the actions taken or what kind of steps? And how long do you need time to break away from the addiction that has been experienced?

Seek help and and leave all gambling forever. If you have a problem with gambling you have to stop like an alcoholic. You can't drink even a little drop anymore.

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September 12, 2023, 03:17:33 PM
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Balancing expenses with income is one solution to reducing gambling habits. Good financial management will prevent you from becoming a gambler who cannot control yourself even when experiencing financial difficulties. Prioritize family needs, then think about the level of savings you have accumulated. If everything is neatly arranged, you can channel your desire to gamble without experiencing long-term effects in your daily life.

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September 12, 2023, 03:22:36 PM
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I think the moment you used all the money you have win from winning the jackpot, it is considered addicted. Because to continue playing even after winning and you starts losing, it gives you the thinking of maybe the next one will make you win. It's not an obvious act but this is actually the beginning of addiction.
Yeah, we can say a gambler is win in gambling when he already become a responsible gambler.

Gambling surely make we lose our money in the long run, we need to understand when to continue and stop during gambling. If we're already make a good amount of profit, we should need to quit and then celebrate our winning. If we're lose, we also need to quit and don't deposit anymore, just play again tomorrow and hope it will be your's day.
After getting a big win then spending it again on betting and thinking if tomorrow will win again it's very natural and almost every gambler has thoughts like that and it's actually a small impact or simple sign of addiction that will continue to happen and I agree with @Apocollapse if the gambler You have to be responsible when gambling, you have to know when to stop, even if you are winning or losing, at least knowing the right time to stop is better than having to chase a bigger win, spending your first win and thinking that tomorrow you will win again.

I think every gambler should have thoughts as stated by some people here to have better emotional control without having to chase losses or chase jackpots from gambling which is very misleading in the long run and that must be avoided.

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September 12, 2023, 03:41:54 PM
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While many demonize gambling as the root cause of addiction and financial ruin, isn't it time we shift the blame from the industry to the individual? After all, countless activities can lead to addiction, but we don't vilify them all. Maybe it's the lack of self-control and inability to understand risk that's truly at fault. Let's stop blaming the game and start holding players accountable for their choices.
Yes, this mistake arises due to the lack of responsibility of individuals in gambling, so they become addicted and have difficulty curing their gambling addiction. They really need to realize that they have a gambling addiction so they need to go to a professional who can help them cure their gambling addiction. Each gambling addict can block the thought or desire to gamble but unfortunately, this is lost to the urge to gamble and many of them are even unable to resist the urge to gamble. If they are willing to learn to overcome their desire to gamble, they will see opportunities to do other things that have nothing to do with gambling. They need encouragement to do something different from their routine activities, where they need to create or build new activities.
Involving a professional is not always necessary, the most important thing is for an addicted person to accept their addiction and acknowledge the fact that they are in a problem and they need someone's help to get out of it, and then someone from their closed ones like friends and family members can help them with that by finding activities that they like and keeping them engaged with those activities and also not leaving them alone at any given time.

If they are trying to cure someone's addiction and then they leave them alone for very long, the addict will most probably start gambling again once they get lonely and when they see that there is no one to stop them. So, it's important that there is at least one person who is always around the addicted person.

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September 12, 2023, 04:47:27 PM
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I want to know how you break away from the addiction, you can mention the actions taken or what kind of steps? And how long do you need time to break away from the addiction that has been experienced?

Find other ways to keep yourself entertained. Talk to people and try to go out for a walk or travel places. It's all about keeping yourself away from the thing that you are addicted to. But the most important thing is, you need to make a mindset where you want to avoid getting addicted. Others can only do so less. It's you who needs to have the will to stop it from happening. People around can give you advice or close ones can do something to keep you away from gambling. But when they are not around, you are most likely to get addicted again.

Make up your mind to not get addicted and follow some self-made rules that you think will keep you away from this. Find some other activity that can give you the same feeling as gambling. You can divert your mind to that and you will not become addicted to gambling for sure. It's all about the chemical reaction that happens in our brains. So searching an alternative is the best idea.
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The question that worries me is, what if you win the jackpot, what will you do then, continue to play every day or finally stop? If you continue to play, then this is pure addiction to the game.
After I hit the jackpot, I was still playing at that time. I played the next day and some days of the week I used some of my winnings to gamble again. At that time, everything is still under control, there are no problems in mylife. Until the money from the jackpot runs out, I use is the money I saved. In fact, I always refused to be considered addicted, because I thought, I only played 1 season in 1 day, with a certain amount of money. But, when I lost, the next day I played, I always hoped for the jackpot, and continued to do so. That's when I admitted that I was addicted. However, financial problems have a positive effect for me in reducing gambling, for the first time I'm able to stay away from gambling even not opening the gambling account that I have.
I'm glad that at the moment you have everything under control. But in my opinion, you need constant adrenaline in life, I think you can't live without it. If you win the jackpot, then you continue to play, with a high degree of probability you will lose all the money from the jackpot (sorry for being blunt, but this is what happens to most). You will go into a state of debt. Debt makes you play less, which means you will be in one of these 2 states. It looks like a sine wave graph. With such sine wave graph you must have nerves of steel.

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September 12, 2023, 09:33:02 PM
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I think the moment you used all the money you have win from winning the jackpot, it is considered addicted. Because to continue playing even after winning and you starts losing, it gives you the thinking of maybe the next one will make you win. It's not an obvious act but this is actually the beginning of addiction.
Yeah, we can say a gambler is win in gambling when he already become a responsible gambler.

Gambling surely make we lose our money in the long run, we need to understand when to continue and stop during gambling. If we're already make a good amount of profit, we should need to quit and then celebrate our winning. If we're lose, we also need to quit and don't deposit anymore, just play again tomorrow and hope it will be your's day.
After getting a big win then spending it again on betting and thinking if tomorrow will win again it's very natural and almost every gambler has thoughts like that and it's actually a small impact or simple sign of addiction that will continue to happen and I agree with @Apocollapse if the gambler You have to be responsible when gambling, you have to know when to stop, even if you are winning or losing, at least knowing the right time to stop is better than having to chase a bigger win, spending your first win and thinking that tomorrow you will win again.

I think every gambler should have thoughts as stated by some people here to have better emotional control without having to chase losses or chase jackpots from gambling which is very misleading in the long run and that must be avoided.
A very normal thought or thinking that you could really be having on the time that you do make out some wins on which you would really be mainly thinking that you should really be that betting even more so that you could really be having the chance on making more winnings which we know that it is really that a common behavior of most gamblers. You would really be that trying out snip out every possible wins that you could be able to get on but we know on how gambling chances do works or the odds that showing which we know that it is always against with us gamblers and this is something you should really be realizing.If you dont find yourself that having the good control then most likely you would really be ending up on a disaster or something a situation on which you hadnt been able to anticipate. Good financial management and control towards yourself
is always been the key on making yourself do abel to avoid possible addiction on which most people do suffer. If you do find yourself already getting impulsive on things when it comes to spending then this is the
right time that you should really be that trying out to stop or having a break because if you do tolerate out such impulsive behavior then it might potentially be leading into that severe addiction which would really be
leading into those non fortunate conditions or something that you dont really like to happen.

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September 12, 2023, 10:52:15 PM
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I'm glad that at the moment you have everything under control. But in my opinion, you need constant adrenaline in life, I think you can't live without it. If you win the jackpot, then you continue to play, with a high degree of probability you will lose all the money from the jackpot (sorry for being blunt, but this is what happens to most). You will go into a state of debt. Debt makes you play less, which means you will be in one of these 2 states. It looks like a sine wave graph. With such sine wave graph you must have nerves of steel.

Yeah, my mind always thinking if I'm not addicted yet, but the $2000 jackpot and use the $1000 to play and ran out, making me wanted to hit another jackpot. I never increase the bet. wich max. $0.8, and never do more than that. This debt makes me learn something, if someone can't stop to play, give the money access to someone they trust. Me, after I'm lose a lot of my winning jackpot, I only have access to my crypto wallet, for my fiat wallet I give the access to my wife, to stop my addict. Also, do something to forget the slots. Not just a debt, help me to control the time to gamble, but also use my free time to play a MOBA game.

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September 12, 2023, 11:42:06 PM
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For many years of experience, the was only one time when I had regrets when I gambled amounts that I considered right now as bigger than I could afford to lose although during that time the amounts were tolerable since I was very liquid.
It is lucky that you only regret 1 time and you can take a lesson from it. There are gamblers who regret many times but they never take the lessons from the mistakes. I think you can easily take the lesson because you aren't an addict. It will be difficult when you are an addict, you have an intention to gamble in a better way but you can't.

I know that even educated people can still be addicted to gambling. It is very hard to control our emotions so the best way to plan before starting to play or bet. Make a limit on our bets and the amount should not hurt us if we are to lose. Also, it is necessary to make time limits for our gambling activities. Set an alarm if possible so we can stop at the right time. The is a lot of stuff to do rather than gamble all day long.
Sure, even people who have good knowledge and experienced enough, still get difficulty to control emotion. It is because the emotion is related to our desires to chase winnings. That's why we need to limit time and funds, it is functioned to stop our unlimited desires in gambling. If we have no limitations in gambling, we probably end up with an excessive gambling.


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Make up your mind to not get addicted and follow some self-made rules that you think will keep you away from this. Find some other activity that can give you the same feeling as gambling. You can divert your mind to that and you will not become addicted to gambling for sure.
They have to be knocked out by the reality that it is not going to do them any good when they're addicted. Looking for ways on how to divert the attention is easy but staying on that activity is going to be their battle.

It's all about the chemical reaction that happens in our brains. So searching an alternative is the best idea.
All the thoughts that play in our minds is also has something to do with how we can overcome gambling addiction. Many struggles and needed actual help in the best that they can and every potential help is what they really need to have because the motivations won't be enough, showing them the bad results of being addicted would probably just going to give them some slight thoughts but it is still not enough to change their minds.

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September 13, 2023, 06:43:56 AM
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As far as I know there is no gambler who only gambles once a week because it is an addictive drug like cigarettes which is hard to give up. On the other hand you cannot earn certain money from gambling so it is not really ideal in your personal life. According to me rich people can gamble because they have enough money to back up but a common man can be destitute when he gambles. I gamble but when I have more capital it is a secret from the society and I don't always tell the family. I expand the money I earn from gambling into other businesses but always keep my thoughts straight.
Good for you if you can make profits and still be disciplined.
But I tell you, there may be gamblers that really play once a week or just during their off to work, Saturday or Sunday. It can happen especially those who are just betting on sports. Most events happen during Saturday night so there's a chance he is only doing that on that day. It's different with casino players, there may be those who also play on weekends but there are more gamblers who do it every day since gambling sites in this era are easy to access.
In my case, I gamble small and try to pursue the jackpot and when my balance is gone I rest for a long time until I have saved enough money to play again. In that kind of strategy I somehow made some money and a big part of that money is spent for the family so I am happy with it.
On OP's question on how to avoid it, be busy with something else. That will really help a lot if you are always occupied with something and be sure that you love that activity.

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September 13, 2023, 07:01:54 AM
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Balancing expenses with income is one solution to reducing gambling habits. Good financial management will prevent you from becoming a gambler who cannot control yourself even when experiencing financial difficulties. Prioritize family needs, then think about the level of savings you have accumulated. If everything is neatly arranged, you can channel your desire to gamble without experiencing long-term effects in your daily life.

That should be done because if not you'll struggle financially. There are other gamblers that are doing this but there are still a few that can't manage their finances because they tend to bet more than prioritize their needs and this kind of person needs help. One of the motivations to do is thinking negatively like if you bet this amount your family will struggle or if the money intended for gambling is better spent on food for the family. Before engaging in gambling consider your needs and those of your family.
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Yes, this can be due to a lack of responsibility and also maybe they are not strict enough with all the boundaries that they have previously set up, oh yes in my opinion, especially if they have a personality that is easily provoked or provoked by something that makes them emotional so they are very likely to get caught there. I think they have realized that they are addicted and I am sure they also want to stop or get out of the addiction zone but well maybe you also know or have felt how it is there, it is very difficult to get out of gambling addiction my friend, the brain and mind are like something is taking over, honestly I have felt it. Asking for professional help maybe it can, but I don't think it will work because professionals are still the same gamblers who can even do things they don't want at all. But I think a good alternative to quitting or quitting the addiction is maybe you can find a new hobby that is just as fun but without the risk, you can find an activity like adding a job maybe, because slowly I think you will be able to forget about gambling.

Yes that's right, basically it's very difficult, but if they really want to stop then there must be ways they can do it, don't just talk through words but start with action, that's all I think.
A lack of responsibility will clearly cause a person to be unable to stick with the boundaries he has created so that he thinks it is okay to violate his boundaries once or twice. But it turns out that will only make them violate their boundaries more often than they thought. They will be easily provoked just by seeing the attractive offers issued by the casino so they return to gambling and this time, they use even more money. Yes, I have felt it and know it is very difficult to get out of your comfort zone in gambling. This comfort zone in gambling must be decided so that we can get out of the endless circle and start to leave gambling without feeling forced slowly. And even if we feel forced to, we really have to do it to reduce our gambling activities until we finally stop gambling completely.

We just have to keep trying to do it and because we already have the desire to reduce gambling activities, we have the thought of starting something new or creating a new activity that we will use to divert our minds. We have to start with real action and it's okay if we still can't turn our thoughts about gambling completely because we are still in the learning stage. But we have to keep trying so that we can really reduce gambling activities.

Involving a professional is not always necessary, the most important thing is for an addicted person to accept their addiction and acknowledge the fact that they are in a problem and they need someone's help to get out of it, and then someone from their closed ones like friends and family members can help them with that by finding activities that they like and keeping them engaged with those activities and also not leaving them alone at any given time.

If they are trying to cure someone's addiction and then they leave them alone for very long, the addict will most probably start gambling again once they get lonely and when they see that there is no one to stop them. So, it's important that there is at least one person who is always around the addicted person.
If a gambling addict can accept his addiction and try to heal it with someone or several people close to him, maybe it can be done well so that the gambling addict does not need to go to a professional. That would be better so it would reduce the cost of consulting a professional. But, gambling addicts must try hard to reduce their addiction and even stop gambling. He needs to find a new activity and start it with people who help him take his mind off thinking about gambling. This distraction is necessary because it blocks the desire to gamble so that he can focus on doing his new activity with the people who help him.

If the gambling addict does not regularly engage in new activities, there is a possibility that he will return to the casino again, especially if he still has free time. He will only pay attention to gambling but over time, there will be a desire to start gambling again and that's when he will gamble again. And if he experiences a gambling addiction again, maybe it will be more difficult to help him because he feels that the help this time will be the same as before. People who want to help him have to try hard to persuade him to want to do his activities again and this time, they have to be really serious about doing it together.

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Balancing expenses with income is one solution to reducing gambling habits. Good financial management will prevent you from becoming a gambler who cannot control yourself even when experiencing financial difficulties. Prioritize family needs, then think about the level of savings you have accumulated. If everything is neatly arranged, you can channel your desire to gamble without experiencing long-term effects in your daily life.

That should be done because if not you'll struggle financially. There are other gamblers that are doing this but there are still a few that can't manage their finances because they tend to bet more than prioritize their needs and this kind of person needs help. One of the motivations to do is thinking negatively like if you bet this amount your family will struggle or if the money intended for gambling is better spent on food for the family. Before engaging in gambling consider your needs and those of your family.
There's a reason why people like that continue to bet more even after managing their finances. It could be because of having a mindset that if they continue to bet, they will be able to return their losses, or maybe thinking that just one more bet and probably the chance to win again.


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Make up your mind to not get addicted and follow some self-made rules that you think will keep you away from this. Find some other activity that can give you the same feeling as gambling. You can divert your mind to that and you will not become addicted to gambling for sure.
They have to be knocked out by the reality that it is not going to do them any good when they're addicted. Looking for ways on how to divert the attention is easy but staying on that activity is going to be their battle.
Addiction is a bad habit that is difficult to get rid of, but even though it is difficult it all depends on the addict's intention, if the intention is higher then it will be easy to get rid of the addiction, but if it is not high then it will be difficult to get rid of the addiction, sometimes habits that are already Being attached will be difficult to just stop, it may take a long process and time to get out of all those feelings.

At least slowly reduce gambling activities and also stay away from the internet if you are addicted to online gambling, but if you gamble in offline casinos, just avoid that place and can do other hobby activities for some time then return to gambling as usual, so that when you reduce it slowly will help reduce one's confidence in gambling, sometimes gambling requires less confidence to play, the less self-confidence there will be, resulting in a desire to stop completely. That's the experience of a friend of mine who has quit his gambling addiction.

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I want to ask those of you who have a hard addiction experience in gambling and then you can treat it yourself, and today still playing gambling but with the principle of good management and financial management in gambling.
I want to know how you break away from the addiction, you can mention the actions taken or what kind of steps? And how long do you need time to break away from the addiction that has been experienced?

"I want to find out because I think your experience in the case as I mentioned will be useful for readers, especially for me personally"

I have never experienced being addicted to gambling, and I know that it is not good for a gambler to end up in such a situation. Because it will not be easy for a gambling addict to get out of such a situation in real life. But when a gambling addict overcomes that, he will be a role model to other people for sure, because he has experience and it can be a reason for others not to try to not gamble if they also know about themselves. that they cannot control themselves from gambling. Apparently, the mistake made by others will be a lesson to the inexperienced and they will also be aware because of the testimony of a former gambling addict.

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I want to ask those of you who have a hard addiction experience in gambling and then you can treat it yourself, and today still playing gambling but with the principle of good management and financial management in gambling.
I want to know how you break away from the addiction, you can mention the actions taken or what kind of steps? And how long do you need time to break away from the addiction that has been experienced?

"I want to find out because I think your experience in the case as I mentioned will be useful for readers, especially for me personally"
First thing first, fear gambling addiction, when that fear is alive inside you, it will keep you safe from going addicted with gambling, I think you should read stories about how many lives were turned upside down because of gambling, look at the lives of people who solely believe in gambling, you will feel pity for them.

Wake up to reality, because many gamblers are living in dreams, they put all their hopes on gambling, and they want the best things of life from gambling, this is totally wrong, if you don't see that all these is wrong, your expectations will end up putting you in troubles.

Gambling addiction can brainwashed anyone, it steals your life from you and it's on you to fight and take it all back, like I've said, wake up to reality, if your life can be immediately turned around

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