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October 11, 2023, 12:49:51 PM
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I am also like you. I still try to supervise my children even though I know I need to learn a lot to supervise and pay attention to my children. But at least I try to be close to them and always be there when they need me. And yes, let them grow up and enjoy their lives well.
If you are a successful businessman or a boss, maybe you have a lot of time to pay attention to your children and supervise them all the time because you can just stay at home watching them and let your subordinates trust you to manage your business, but if you are a worker it will obviously be difficult. because it will take up your time while working, but no matter how hard you watch them it won't help you more, you might also neglect your business or work

The point is, just entrust it to someone who looks after them or your wife because they might understand them better and be able to supervise them full time, whereas you are a man who has to work and do business outside the home to support them so it won't be possible to always be at home, the point is to give a message to your nanny and wife about the dangers of gambling and keep them away from there.

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October 11, 2023, 05:01:12 PM
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~snip~
If you are a successful businessman or a boss, maybe you have a lot of time to pay attention to your children and supervise them all the time because you can just stay at home watching them and let your subordinates trust you to manage your business, but if you are a worker it will obviously be difficult. because it will take up your time while working, but no matter how hard you watch them it won't help you more, you might also neglect your business or work

The point is, just entrust it to someone who looks after them or your wife because they might understand them better and be able to supervise them full time, whereas you are a man who has to work and do business outside the home to support them so it won't be possible to always be at home, the point is to give a message to your nanny and wife about the dangers of gambling and keep them away from there.
At least we have a partner who can help supervise and pay attention to our children so they don't do bad things. This requires cooperation with our partners so that each can do their job well because it is all for our children. And every parent is willing to do the best for their children.

But if they already have a gambling addiction, getting them out of there may take more work. And even though we don't know how long we can help the healing process, we must continue to accompany him so that he knows we are always with him. We as parents, might be able to ask him to do something to divert his attention so he can focus on other things.

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October 11, 2023, 07:07:19 PM
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At least we have a partner who can help supervise and pay attention to our children so they don't do bad things. This requires cooperation with our partners so that each can do their job well because it is all for our children. And every parent is willing to do the best for their children.

But if they already have a gambling addiction, getting them out of there may take more work. And even though we don't know how long we can help the healing process, we must continue to accompany him so that he knows we are always with him. We as parents, might be able to ask him to do something to divert his attention so he can focus on other things.
If maybe its too bad because you are addicted, you have to need help from all means, such as help from psychiatric doctor and we have to provide close support and if everything seems to have improved, it would be better to give him activities or a little work to divert his mind, not only focus on gambling and someone I know used this method when they wanted to quit their addiction and look for alternative brain therapy by working.

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October 11, 2023, 07:28:40 PM
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I want to ask those of you who have a hard addiction experience in gambling and then you can treat it yourself, and today still playing gambling but with the principle of good management and financial management in gambling.
I want to know how you break away from the addiction, you can mention the actions taken or what kind of steps? And how long do you need time to break away from the addiction that has been experienced?

"I want to find out because I think your experience in the case as I mentioned will be useful for readers, especially for me personally"
It will be good to clarify that solutions to problems are relative and might not work in all cases. What I did might be helpful to me but it might not work for you. Privacy is important so people might not tell you about their experiences but I think some basic steps will help addicts break free. Some of these points are from personal experience.

1. You should accept that you are an addict and confirm that it is affecting you negatively.

2. Decide to quit and be willing to pay the price.

3. Have a gambling plan and don't ever exceed your budget.

4. Stay away from people or situations that trigger the urge to game uncontrollably.

5. If you can't control yourself, seek help from experienced gamers or a gambling psychologist.
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Wow this is such a great piece of advice right here, OP I hope you figure this out for your sake and your families sake. Gambling addictions are no joke and you must figure this out for yourself.

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October 11, 2023, 07:55:54 PM
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At least we have a partner who can help supervise and pay attention to our children so they don't do bad things. This requires cooperation with our partners so that each can do their job well because it is all for our children. And every parent is willing to do the best for their children.

But if they already have a gambling addiction, getting them out of there may take more work. And even though we don't know how long we can help the healing process, we must continue to accompany him so that he knows we are always with him. We as parents, might be able to ask him to do something to divert his attention so he can focus on other things.
If maybe its too bad because you are addicted, you have to need help from all means, such as help from psychiatric doctor and we have to provide close support and if everything seems to have improved, it would be better to give him activities or a little work to divert his mind, not only focus on gambling and someone I know used this method when they wanted to quit their addiction and look for alternative brain therapy by working.
Addiction is a very complicated situation that needed a serious guidelines to be followed for the Victim to get a ease and become a better person. Gambling usually is very risky and we need to make sure that we do things that would not increase our urge to bet too frequent. One of the ways to quite addiction is to have people around the patient that would take his way from gambling. Sometimes it get worsen when we always take idol with nothing to do. Being idol can make us to see the world from different angle and that alone can make us see gambling as a means to interact and get busy.

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October 11, 2023, 08:11:33 PM
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I want to ask those of you who have a hard addiction experience in gambling and then you can treat it yourself, and today still playing gambling but with the principle of good management and financial management in gambling.
I want to know how you break away from the addiction, you can mention the actions taken or what kind of steps? And how long do you need time to break away from the addiction that has been experienced?

"I want to find out because I think your experience in the case as I mentioned will be useful for readers, especially for me personally"
How to overcome addiction by changing your mindset. It should be ingrained in your head that a person's greatest victory is to stop gambling and that is a victory. So basically just let it go, because most people are addicted to gambling because they want to get back the money they lost while gambling, so you keep playing, so that in the hope of making a profit, you end up making a profit. lost. The burden that must be borne because of this bad habit has become a risk. But you have to believe that everything has a silver lining. As long as you are willing to try, and be patient, I'm sure you can get through it.

Indeed, if we are addicted, our minds will always be focused there and hope to win and win, even though defeat is right before our eyes. When we lose, we will not be enthusiastic about doing any activities because we want to continue gambling with the target of winning.

Stop immediately with serious intentions, even if you gamble, be a responsible gambler.

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October 11, 2023, 08:39:04 PM
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If you are a successful businessman or a boss, maybe you have a lot of time to pay attention to your children and supervise them all the time because you can just stay at home watching them and let your subordinates trust you to manage your business, but if you are a worker it will obviously be difficult. because it will take up your time while working, but no matter how hard you watch them it won't help you more, you might also neglect your business or work

The point is, just entrust it to someone who looks after them or your wife because they might understand them better and be able to supervise them full time, whereas you are a man who has to work and do business outside the home to support them so it won't be possible to always be at home, the point is to give a message to your nanny and wife about the dangers of gambling and keep them away from there.

The business people are easily manage their family,because they own the business.All the subordinate ready to work 24/7 for their boss,So the easy way to manage the family using your free time.If you are the worker,then manage of the family is not possible because you will do the work of the boss who stay at their home.Because they concentrate on other business or family after appoint you to that company.For the good salary the worker will work in office without going to their home.So you should learn from the experience by which if you become a boss using your hard work.You should work like the passive and don’t work like more active.
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October 11, 2023, 08:47:59 PM
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~snip~
If you are a successful businessman or a boss, maybe you have a lot of time to pay attention to your children and supervise them all the time because you can just stay at home watching them and let your subordinates trust you to manage your business, but if you are a worker it will obviously be difficult. because it will take up your time while working, but no matter how hard you watch them it won't help you more, you might also neglect your business or work

The point is, just entrust it to someone who looks after them or your wife because they might understand them better and be able to supervise them full time, whereas you are a man who has to work and do business outside the home to support them so it won't be possible to always be at home, the point is to give a message to your nanny and wife about the dangers of gambling and keep them away from there.
At least we have a partner who can help supervise and pay attention to our children so they don't do bad things. This requires cooperation with our partners so that each can do their job well because it is all for our children. And every parent is willing to do the best for their children.

But if they already have a gambling addiction, getting them out of there may take more work. And even though we don't know how long we can help the healing process, we must continue to accompany him so that he knows we are always with him. We as parents, might be able to ask him to do something to divert his attention so he can focus on other things.
Giving out the responsibility of looking after your kids to some one else from outside is not ideal because it's definitely not a guarantee they would do their job exactly as expected of them, at some point they could be negligent or better still the kids could device means to get away with what ever it is they are doing around their guardians and you wouldn't get to know.

In the case of gambling addiction the kids could have gotten this trait and possibly hide it from their hired guardian and it will never come to their notice as they will not be with the kids always except during their official working hour's. So I don't think leaving them to a hired guardian will do any better on them as some guardians in the bid to act professionally will have restrictions and can not possibly monitor the child enough as you the parents will do.

In the case of the parents, you have full access and control over your kind at almost any point in time and you can take decision for them  without been cautioned and to a very large extent you could possibly pip into their privacy to get a glimpse of what they do, something your hired guardian could possibly not do, this way you can spot these habits earl enough to curb them.

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October 11, 2023, 09:29:54 PM
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Giving out the responsibility of looking after your kids to some one else from outside is not ideal because it's definitely not a guarantee they would do their job exactly as expected of them, at some point they could be negligent or better still the kids could device means to get away with what ever it is they are doing around their guardians and you wouldn't get to know.

True some kids are even a victim of child abuse done by their caretaker.  There are issues where the nannies are harming babies and were caught by cctv placed on the house.  Aside from that, there are care taker that shows no concern because they are not blood related and is just after the money that is given to do the job.

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In the case of gambling addiction the kids could have gotten this trait and possibly hide it from their hired guardian and it will never come to their notice as they will not be with the kids always except during their official working hour's. So I don't think leaving them to a hired guardian will do any better on them as some guardians in the bid to act professionally will have restrictions and can not possibly monitor the child enough as you the parents will do.

Aside from that these kids who know they are not blood-related pay no attention to the guardian's advice.  Some kids do some vices such as gambling to get the attention of their parents and some even do gambling due to possibly hate feeling since their parents ignore them.

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In the case of the parents, you have full access and control over your kind at almost any point in time and you can take decision for them  without been cautioned and to a very large extent you could possibly pip into their privacy to get a glimpse of what they do, something your hired guardian could possibly not do, this way you can spot these habits earl enough to curb them.

As a parent, there should always a good communication between them and their kids.  Even though parents are busy with work, they must allocate time to show their affection to their kids.  Have their kids open up to them and make their kids feels secure and make them understand that parents are always there to help.

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October 11, 2023, 09:47:23 PM
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I want to ask those of you who have a hard addiction experience in gambling and then you can treat it yourself, and today still playing gambling but with the principle of good management and financial management in gambling.
I want to know how you break away from the addiction, you can mention the actions taken or what kind of steps? And how long do you need time to break away from the addiction that has been experienced?

"I want to find out because I think your experience in the case as I mentioned will be useful for readers, especially for me personally"

According to my experiences, I have seen that we can only control ourselves in gambling if we rarely play in the casino. Because if you increase your gambling in the casino, it is as if you are the one who is paving the way for you to eventually become addicted to it. In short, you are shaping yourself to be addicted to it in the future.

But if from the very beginning of your gambling you shape yourself in the right way of gambling that will not lead you to become an addict later on, for sure you will be able to manage your gambling correctly as time goes by so that you are not going to lead to something not good, instead you will be a responsible gambler that will not affect your character or damage your relationship with family and friends.

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October 12, 2023, 01:14:54 AM
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Addiction is a very complicated situation that needed a serious guidelines to be followed for the Victim to get a ease and become a better person. Gambling usually is very risky and we need to make sure that we do things that would not increase our urge to bet too frequent. One of the ways to quite addiction is to have people around the patient that would take his way from gambling. Sometimes it get worsen when we always take idol with nothing to do. Being idol can make us to see the world from different angle and that alone can make us see gambling as a means to interact and get busy.
Professional help is a must when a person is already addicted, as even if the family members of the addicted have good intentions they do not really know what steps to take to help their loved ones.

And even if they spent a great deal of their time with them and they kept watch over the addicted in order to stop them if they wanted to gamble again, this only increases the dependency they have on their family, and once you leave them alone the very first thing they will do is to look for the nearest source which can satisfy their cravings.
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October 12, 2023, 12:57:15 PM
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If maybe its too bad because you are addicted, you have to need help from all means, such as help from psychiatric doctor and we have to provide close support and if everything seems to have improved, it would be better to give him activities or a little work to divert his mind, not only focus on gambling and someone I know used this method when they wanted to quit their addiction and look for alternative brain therapy by working.
Getting a professional to help cure his gambling addiction is necessary, apart from the support of his family members, so that the gambling addict sees that he still has other people who care about him. He will see it as an encouragement and support for him to be able to undergo the healing process and will not find it difficult to go through it. And maybe there is a healing process that requires him to do activities to divert his attention from gambling. And everything will go well if there is attention from everyone so that without realizing it, he manages to cure his gambling addiction.

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Giving out the responsibility of looking after your kids to some one else from outside is not ideal because it's definitely not a guarantee they would do their job exactly as expected of them, at some point they could be negligent or better still the kids could device means to get away with what ever it is they are doing around their guardians and you wouldn't get to know.

In the case of gambling addiction the kids could have gotten this trait and possibly hide it from their hired guardian and it will never come to their notice as they will not be with the kids always except during their official working hour's. So I don't think leaving them to a hired guardian will do any better on them as some guardians in the bid to act professionally will have restrictions and can not possibly monitor the child enough as you the parents will do.

In the case of the parents, you have full access and control over your kind at almost any point in time and you can take decision for them  without been cautioned and to a very large extent you could possibly pip into their privacy to get a glimpse of what they do, something your hired guardian could possibly not do, this way you can spot these habits earl enough to curb them.
Apart from that, we will not know what we will teach our children, so there may be differences with what we teach our children when we return to our children. They may not really care about our children and only teach our children as they are without giving our children genuine love. And it is clearly different if the parents give love to their children.

Yes, that's because the hired guardians only work according to their jobs, get paid, and are no longer responsible for their children when they return home. They will hand the children over to their parents and will return the next day as usual while the children are already asleep when their parents return. The guardian cannot decide everything and must wait for approval from the parents when something needs to be decided, so it may take a while before deciding something for the children.

And that is why parents should take care of their children and not hand them over to guardians. It will also bring the relationship between parents and their children closer so that there will be a special feeling that cannot be explained.

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October 12, 2023, 01:18:11 PM
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Addiction is a very complicated situation that needed a serious guidelines to be followed for the Victim to get a ease and become a better person. Gambling usually is very risky and we need to make sure that we do things that would not increase our urge to bet too frequent. One of the ways to quite addiction is to have people around the patient that would take his way from gambling. Sometimes it get worsen when we always take idol with nothing to do. Being idol can make us to see the world from different angle and that alone can make us see gambling as a means to interact and get busy.
Professional help is a must when a person is already addicted, as even if the family members of the addicted have good intentions they do not really know what steps to take to help their loved ones.

And even if they spent a great deal of their time with them and they kept watch over the addicted in order to stop them if they wanted to gamble again, this only increases the dependency they have on their family, and once you leave them alone the very first thing they will do is to look for the nearest source which can satisfy their cravings.

Yes, maybe the role of a professional can help in this problem, but I don't think it will be completely influential because in essence they will be able to get the cure if they want it for something better. But the problem is that it is very difficult to be able to restore the addicted mindset to normal again, almost all of their thoughts have been instigated in gambling, their expectations are too high so that they always spin in a gambling cycle that never has a limit.

Basically, it is quite difficult to cure someone from gambling addiction, especially if it is at a high level. But that doesn't mean we have to just let it go, we still have to make efforts as the closest person to him or his family, calling those who are already professionals is pretty good, and also in my opinion they as his family should try to provide other activities to that person, just give or invite them to do other activities that are still fun but there is no risk in it,
so that slowly they will be a little distracted from the gambling mind, and well with some advice too of course.

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October 12, 2023, 03:06:33 PM
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Getting a professional to help cure his gambling addiction is necessary, apart from the support of his family members, so that the gambling addict sees that he still has other people who care about him. He will see it as an encouragement and support for him to be able to undergo the healing process and will not find it difficult to go through it. And maybe there is a healing process that requires him to do activities to divert his attention from gambling. And everything will go well if there is attention from everyone so that without realizing it, he manages to cure his gambling addiction.
yep, indeed everything you say is very correct, when an addict who wants to recover from his addiction gets great support from the people around him, it makes his mental strength become more enthusiastic to recover from his addiction.

this is the negative impact of gambling too often, ignoring the risks and not being able to control oneself, becoming addicted, which has a slightly complicated stage recovering from the addiction, and conversations like this should make us all understand how risky gambling is if we take it too seriously, such as thinking about getting money, which ends in regret. chasing defeat and becoming a loss. I just hope that anyone reading here is a little more aware to really understand how gambling works.

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October 13, 2023, 11:30:32 AM
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yep, indeed everything you say is very correct, when an addict who wants to recover from his addiction gets great support from the people around him, it makes his mental strength become more enthusiastic to recover from his addiction.

this is the negative impact of gambling too often, ignoring the risks and not being able to control oneself, becoming addicted, which has a slightly complicated stage recovering from the addiction, and conversations like this should make us all understand how risky gambling is if we take it too seriously, such as thinking about getting money, which ends in regret. chasing defeat and becoming a loss. I just hope that anyone reading here is a little more aware to really understand how gambling works.
It will also raise awareness in him that he can heal with the help of the people around him because he knows they care about his life. This will give him greater enthusiasm to quickly recover from his gambling addiction and not repeat the mistakes that made him fall into gambling.

He has felt the negative impact of gambling, so he intends not to experience it again. And even if he returns to gambling, he will be more responsible than before because he has experienced bad events in his past. However, some people will not return to gambling and will probably help other gambling addicted people to provide something useful that can help other people recover from their gambling addiction.

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October 13, 2023, 12:46:55 PM
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I actually agree more if schools or in the world of education also hold or provide education about the introduction or knowledge of the negative impacts of gambling because in my opinion teaching by parents alone will not be enough, I think it would be better if there was action or a sustainable effort in school as well so that teenagers can form their self-control and not be trapped by gambling addiction problems.
Why I agree more is because I don't think all parents can provide good knowledge and understanding to their children about activities that can be detrimental to their children and I'm sure some parents don't even have the time to teach their children about all of them, that's because they are busy with their work.
Knowledge about recognizing the dangers or negative impacts of gambling and other juvenile delinquency is also very important education for the future of children and provides more insight and builds morals and responsibility for children in the future.
Everyone has their own opinion on this matter, what drives you to agree that schools provide an understanding of the impact of gambling?? Isn't it unethical if schools provide knowledge about gambling, because schools are formal places to provide good education for students, even though in real life gambling backfires on society so in my opinion it is not appropriate to hold it at school, maybe it can be held outside the school with a theme "socialization of the impact of gambling on the younger generation" for example.

       -  Perhaps it's not a bad idea to reiterate or teach, at least in school, the negative effects of gambling when it is used improperly and shouldn't be available to minors. I don't see anything bad; the only issue I have is when we see people gamble who are not of the appropriate age since no one has ever explained what gambling is to them.

Given that it is still a matter of knowledge whether it should be done or not, it is my opinion that it is only necessary to explain the negative effects of gambling to everyone, regardless of age. It is just that easy to grasp.

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October 13, 2023, 05:39:14 PM
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yep, indeed everything you say is very correct, when an addict who wants to recover from his addiction gets great support from the people around him, it makes his mental strength become more enthusiastic to recover from his addiction.

this is the negative impact of gambling too often, ignoring the risks and not being able to control oneself, becoming addicted, which has a slightly complicated stage recovering from the addiction, and conversations like this should make us all understand how risky gambling is if we take it too seriously, such as thinking about getting money, which ends in regret. chasing defeat and becoming a loss. I just hope that anyone reading here is a little more aware to really understand how gambling works.
It will also raise awareness in him that he can heal with the help of the people around him because he knows they care about his life. This will give him greater enthusiasm to quickly recover from his gambling addiction and not repeat the mistakes that made him fall into gambling.

He has felt the negative impact of gambling, so he intends not to experience it again. And even if he returns to gambling, he will be more responsible than before because he has experienced bad events in his past. However, some people will not return to gambling and will probably help other gambling addicted people to provide something useful that can help other people recover from their gambling addiction.

If that was the after effects then it may give it a good practice but most of the time, when an addicted gambler goes back to his usual way of gambling things is un-controllable there's always a possibility that he will just repeat that same mistake and will undergo with the same problem that he just went thru, it's best not to come back or not to try playing again to surely quit away from it and if chances will be given, guiding others with this possible problem to raise will be a good help avoid anyone to engage and possibly get addicted.

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October 14, 2023, 01:54:47 AM
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       -  Perhaps it's not a bad idea to reiterate or teach, at least in school, the negative effects of gambling when it is used improperly and shouldn't be available to minors. I don't see anything bad; the only issue I have is when we see people gamble who are not of the appropriate age since no one has ever explained what gambling is to them.

Given that it is still a matter of knowledge whether it should be done or not, it is my opinion that it is only necessary to explain the negative effects of gambling to everyone, regardless of age. It is just that easy to grasp.

If you think it's good, I don't blame your opinion, bro, maybe what you mean is that outside of school hours students are guided or taught about the impacts or risks of gambling, I don't think that will be a problem. .
Apart from school, parents must also guide their children at home in knowing what gambling is and its impacts, because at this age children are still very vulnerable in carrying out all activities, by paying special attention and monitoring their child's behavior. it would reduce the chances of them entering the world. gambling, because good understanding will be easy to accept even if slowly.

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October 14, 2023, 11:02:33 AM
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If that was the after effects then it may give it a good practice but most of the time, when an addicted gambler goes back to his usual way of gambling things is un-controllable there's always a possibility that he will just repeat that same mistake and will undergo with the same problem that he just went thru, it's best not to come back or not to try playing again to surely quit away from it and if chances will be given, guiding others with this possible problem to raise will be a good help avoid anyone to engage and possibly get addicted.
Yes, they can return to gambling again even though they have tried to get gambling treatment. That is normal because he will not always be able to control himself, especially since he has just started healing. The important thing is that he knows what to do because he knows the preventive measures if he starts having the same problems. What is done during the healing process can help him not to be tempted by anything in gambling so that by continuing to learn to cure his gambling addiction, he will be able to recover from his gambling addiction.

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October 15, 2023, 12:57:42 AM
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Getting a professional to help cure his gambling addiction is necessary, apart from the support of his family members, so that the gambling addict sees that he still has other people who care about him. He will see it as an encouragement and support for him to be able to undergo the healing process and will not find it difficult to go through it. And maybe there is a healing process that requires him to do activities to divert his attention from gambling. And everything will go well if there is attention from everyone so that without realizing it, he manages to cure his gambling addiction.
yep, indeed everything you say is very correct, when an addict who wants to recover from his addiction gets great support from the people around him, it makes his mental strength become more enthusiastic to recover from his addiction.

this is the negative impact of gambling too often, ignoring the risks and not being able to control oneself, becoming addicted, which has a slightly complicated stage recovering from the addiction, and conversations like this should make us all understand how risky gambling is if we take it too seriously, such as thinking about getting money, which ends in regret. chasing defeat and becoming a loss. I just hope that anyone reading here is a little more aware to really understand how gambling works.
Well when we talk about addiction it is a very broad topic, generally when we emphasize with respect to them we can have some things that can be sensitive for some players, and those things are what can make the difference if some of them You can leave it aside, in the forum I have seen that things are focusing a lot on what addiction is and this makes me think that when we can do things that we can help it is much better, when I have seen that there are people who are in an addiction problem and they say that their friends help them or can help them, well I completely agree with that, because the first people who can help in the most immediate way are friends, because sometimes the trust with them is superior Of course, the family has absolute support, but things tend to be too difficult when it's with them, so sometimes we trust people or third parties more than the family.

Addiction is a topic that for those who suffer from it is very sad, sometimes they do not realize the things that they can harm or do when they start inventing, but what I am saying is that at the moment it is the most remote idea that he is falling into addiction, we have to act, or stop gambling or stop spending money, or stop being involved in the casino, because that's the only way problems will arise, both in the family and at work, like that. As in any event that is planned in life, it is not healthy to do it, it is not good for anyone, if there is a family associated, and if you have or are one less head of the family, things must be very emphatic Regarding this, What I think is that when something like this happens, it should be attacked, and as I said, in the forum there must be many who are going through that problem, but here we are to help them with that problem , even if it is by making them forceful, if it is possible, So some advice is not bad, if someone identifies with what we say , then they are free to choose if they want to let us Help them.

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