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There are so many trolls on internet and if you don't want to face those trolls then kindly stop using internet or ignore those trolls without thinking about anything else. As far as I know about this forum then you are wrong because most of the members of this forum are decent and they doesn't troll with others while we can't ignore the fact that there can be some members who may use some harsh words but still I would say that you should ignore such people in your mind or ignore them on his forum. But, my friend I don't think that ignoring a user will completely remove it from your memories so it's better to ignore the words of that user and continue to use the forum the way it is. How about if the admin filter some keywords(foul words), such that when you use them, you will be handed ban. Such as 7days ban, few days signature ban, read only mode etc. This will promote peaceful co-existence and curtail to the barest minimum any form of bullying, unfriendliness, acrimony or as the case may be.
I don't think that it's needed or fair to ban a user if he/she clashes with another user on some matter. The forum allows freedom of speech and anyone can say anything without any restrictions. We can't stop anyone from using the words that they use in their daily life and in the same way we can't stop anyone from using those words on this forum. If you think you don't like the words of other users then kindly click on the "Ignore" button that placed somewhere left-bottom of that user and you won't see the posts of that user anymore. The admins can't filter all foul words and banning a user for using of a wrong word is totally against the freedom of speech.
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September 06, 2023, 07:03:15 PM |
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I actually don’t see any need why the forum should start censoring post just because they included a curse word in it, if you don’t like the way an user responded to your post the best thing you can do is to ignore them and forget something ever happened rather than to start engaging in a heated argument with both of you insulting yourself, after all you don’t know them and they don’t know you, so don’t let anyone’s words get to your head.
Don’t forget that this is a forum and everyone should be able to give his or her own opinion without being censored. And once the content of user get removed because of their choice of words then that would defeat the whole idea of “freedom of speech”.
No one actually has freedom of speech because at some point you have to follow the rules of the platform that you are using to convey your message. For example, if you make some advertising, a CTA message, or a post in a Bitcoin discussion, that topic will be moved to service discussions, which means you have no control. Another example is if you make a post with some faulty or wrong information and try to lead people the wrong way, you will be tagged as neutral or maybe removed if you are found guilty of plagiarism. We all know that by following the simple rules, we can live forever here until we die, but if we don't follow the rules, we can't survive here. Now, if we talk about abusive language, then use of foul language is not encouraged here; instead, it is banned here, and the best way to report such pist is to report it to moderators, as, in my opinion, censor filtration tool integration is not going to help. As many members tried to emphasise, do not use filtration as it will only cover more space on the domain or hosting while we have moderators who are getting paid and have the full authority to remove someone's post if they are not following the rules. They will not alter the post, which means they will not edit it, but they could delete it.
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September 06, 2023, 08:14:48 PM |
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If I want to reply to someone's post and call them a fucking idiot, that is my right. You have the right to ignore me or scroll past my reply. Let's not be part of the cancel culture here. It's not that complicated and we don't need snowflakes trying to change something that doesn't need changed.
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September 06, 2023, 08:32:54 PM |
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Actually there are bullies in this forum amidst the kind ones. How about if the admin filter some keywords(foul words), such that when you use them, you will be handed ban. Such as 7days ban, few days signature ban, read only mode etc.
Understand that that is how some people talk normally, they may not even see it as offensive, but you on the other hand will be taking what they have said seriously and very personally like they knew you from somewhere before and have a reason to not like you or want to bully you. Most of the time the problem is not what is, the problem is how you see the problem. Some words that you may consider to be foul and offensive, may be words that some other people based on environment where they grew up or family may not see as offensive because they use those words. Grow up and don't let your esteem be shaped by other people's opinion of you.
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I searched some old threads and even recent and found alot of trolls. Sometimes the trolling goes extreme. I have read where a big user of this forum was called a pedophile and he was so much wounded that he threatened to involve authorities. I mean I can also call anyone a black monkey and go away with it. So many people are hurted by what happens online while a few are strong enough to take any bullet. This is the reason some newbies complain that here is not friendly. Actually there are bullies in this forum amidst the kind ones. How about if the admin filter some keywords(foul words), such that when you use them, you will be handed ban. Such as 7days ban, few days signature ban, read only mode etc. This will promote peaceful co-existence and curtail to the barest minimum any form of bullying, unfriendliness, acrimony or as the case may be.
The forum has already done something about this. It’s called the ignore button. You can simply add anyone who you feel offended by to your ignore list and you will never see their posts again. As for me, I would not be offended if anyone called me names here, SatoPrincess is only an online persona, the real person behind the account is anonymous and cannot be hurt by silly words. There is so much to do and learn here, I really cannot be bothered to respond to trolls or unprovoked attacks, You’re somewhat new here, like others have advised it’s better for you to grow thicker skin. If you are that pissed, you can give a neutral tag to the user with reference to the post but suggesting ban for using foul language in a forum where scam isn’t moderated is a very stupid idea!!!
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September 06, 2023, 11:53:32 PM |
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How about if the admin filter some keywords(foul words), such that when you use them, you will be handed ban. Such as 7days ban, few days signature ban, read only mode etc. This will promote peaceful co-existence and curtail to the barest minimum any form of bullying, unfriendliness, acrimony or as the case may be.
By visiting the site and registering under this public forum, you have already agreed to and will be bound by the rules here. The rules have already been established, and how you feel about people's responses will not cause the rules to alter. How you speak in the forum cannot be monitored; if it could, it would be counterproductive since people would not learn faster by exploring different points of view of people in the forum. It is not always about the unpleasant remarks, but about the harsh responses too, which I believe are acceptable and can be learned from. If you can’t still tolerate it from the person, just ignore the user.
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September 07, 2023, 01:30:41 AM |
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According to loyceV "If you can be offended by someone online, it means you're doing something wrong" .
I'm afraid I have to disagree! People might have a different point of view or argument on a matter. You will find another group of people who do not respect your opinion and then start insulting you. The problem is, when you get bullied because of your opinion, you want to say something back, and it ends with exchanging some hit words, and then sometimes it goes to the extreme level when one person calls another a pedophile. For this reason, I believe you can get offended without even doing anything wrong.
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September 07, 2023, 05:58:16 AM Last edit: September 07, 2023, 02:30:11 PM by cafter |
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Anyone will criticize a user harshly if the user is mistaken, this could be because the user lacks knowledge of that specific topic or has an incorrect understanding of it. If I were in their position, I would not immediately become angry with them but instead i would first check to see whether i was mistaken or not. After discovering such misunderstanding, I adjust my learning.
Simply click "ignore" button if you find that user anonyunh and report the post or reply if they are using foul language without cause.
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September 07, 2023, 07:07:31 AM |
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A person cannot be offended as long as he does not allow it to be done. OP, you can be different by talking to people politely and without swear words. But this does not mean that you can remake a person who very often has a mat in his speech and uses only prepositions. Accept the world and the forum as they are, with people who do not know how to restrain their anger, with people who do not know the culture of speech, and try to understand them. Do you know that if you deny something, then there is a piece of the denied in you? So, first, change yourself, and then you will see a lot of good in people, even among those who seem rude to you today. Now, if we talk about abusive language, then use of foul language is not encouraged here; instead, it is banned here, and the best way to report such pist is to report it to moderators, as, in my opinion, censor filtration tool integration is not going to help.
Try to complain about TMAN posts. I speak of him as the most sincere user and virtuoso in expressing his opinion. Many will not even be able to do something similar. Therefore, if the post contains information on the topic, the moderators will turn a blind eye to how the author talks about it.
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September 07, 2023, 07:46:14 AM |
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According to loyceV "If you can be offended by someone online, it means you're doing something wrong" . I'm afraid I have to disagree! People might have a different point of view or argument on a matter. You will find another group of people who do not respect your opinion and then start insulting you. The problem is, when you get bullied because of your opinion, you want to say something back, and it ends with exchanging some hit words, and then sometimes it goes to the extreme level when one person calls another a pedophile. For this reason, I believe you can get offended without even doing anything wrong. You're missing the point: if you choose to give someone the power to hurt you through your screen, you're doing something wrong. If someone calls me a pedophile, he's an idiot. It's that simple.
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September 07, 2023, 10:52:39 AM |
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I'd like to see the opposite: turn all the "carefully selected words" back into their true meaning. It should be called "The TMAN Filter" ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Oh boy... whoever makes this will make a lot of revenue if they sell it by subscription.
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September 07, 2023, 11:46:53 AM |
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According to loyceV "If you can be offended by someone online, it means you're doing something wrong" . I'm afraid I have to disagree! People might have a different point of view or argument on a matter. You will find another group of people who do not respect your opinion and then start insulting you. The problem is, when you get bullied because of your opinion, you want to say something back, and it ends with exchanging some hit words, and then sometimes it goes to the extreme level when one person calls another a pedophile. For this reason, I believe you can get offended without even doing anything wrong. You're missing the point: if you choose to give someone the power to hurt you through your screen, you're doing something wrong. If someone calls me a pedophile, he's an idiot. It's that simple.Now, it's a debatable thing. I choose to give power to someone I like and am close to—for example, my friends and family. It's the internet; we barely make good friends on the internet, especially on anonymous forums. Even if someone looks like he is my friend, I don't know what he has in his mind. Let's say I know some forum members' usernames only, and I exchanged some DM and slowly built a good relationship even though we don't even know our real names. I don't think any of them are going to hurt me. Even if they do, that will be a scam. I agree with the bold part. It's easy to get hurt on the internet forum where we don't know each other. If people choose to be jerks because no one knows their real name, they are an idiot. I feel like I was not able to explain well because of the language barrier.
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September 07, 2023, 11:59:59 AM |
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It's easy to get hurt on the internet forum where we don't know each other. Only if you let them! I still think you're missing the point: nobody can hurt you online as long as you don't give them that power. The internet is much nicer when you can't be hurt by words.
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September 07, 2023, 12:06:54 PM |
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I actually don’t see any need why the forum should start censoring post just because they included a curse word in it, if you don’t like the way an user responded to your post the best thing you can do is to ignore them and forget something ever happened rather than to start engaging in a heated argument with both of you insulting yourself, after all you don’t know them and they don’t know you, so don’t let anyone’s words get to your head.
Don’t forget that this is a forum and everyone should be able to give his or her own opinion without being censored. And once the content of user get removed because of their choice of words then that would defeat the whole idea of “freedom of speech”.
No one actually has freedom of speech because at some point you have to follow the rules of the platform that you are using to convey your message. For example, if you make some advertising, a CTA message, or a post in a Bitcoin discussion, that topic will be moved to service discussions, which means you have no control. Another example is if you make a post with some faulty or wrong information and try to lead people the wrong way, you will be tagged as neutral or maybe removed if you are found guilty of plagiarism. We all know that by following the simple rules, we can live forever here until we die, but if we don't follow the rules, we can't survive here. [...] I think you're mistakenly took the meaning of freedom of speech. Freedom of speech does not mean you're also entitled to freedom of consequences and neglecting the concept of a system. And the things you mentioned above are consequences of one's action. If they post something that's out of context, they're still allowed to, they're free to do it, but their post will get moved. Likewise, if they post something faulty, their credibility will be questioned, if they post a plagiarized content or other things that's against the rules of the forum, they'll be questioned and if found guilty, tagged. Again, consequences. A freedom of speech neglecting a system or a rule [where a post should be posted, or what [oot] comment on what board, or what kind of post are not allowed] is an anarchy.
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September 07, 2023, 12:39:19 PM |
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I searched some old threads and even recent and found alot of trolls. Sometimes the trolling goes extreme. I have read where a big user of this forum was called a pedophile and he was so much wounded that he threatened to involve authorities. I mean I can also call anyone a black monkey and go away with it. So many people are hurted by what happens online while a few are strong enough to take any bullet. This is the reason some newbies complain that here is not friendly. Actually there are bullies in this forum amidst the kind ones. How about if the admin filter some keywords(foul words), such that when you use them, you will be handed ban. Such as 7days ban, few days signature ban, read only mode etc. This will promote peaceful co-existence and curtail to the barest minimum any form of bullying, unfriendliness, acrimony or as the case may be.
You would want me to banned if I told you “can your dick reach your ass?, then go fuck your self” Basically go fuck yourself. Now death threats they deserve a ban. Doxing a person and suggesting they need to be punished that should mean ban. Calling a person a pediphile with zero proof may deserve a banning. I have been told fuck you more than once in my life no big deal. In real life I have had a mob guy tell me he would hurt my kid brother that was a big deal. But letting a guy or girl tell a person to fuck off is not a big deal in my book. In fact I will now fuck off.
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September 07, 2023, 06:21:56 PM |
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Well, if moderators begin to filter the kind of words that are used on this forum, then the forum might be kind of boring in the sense that members would now begin to mind the kind of words they use here, which is going to be kind of boring. This is the internet, where anyone can say anything they wish to say and exercise their freedom of speech, and there's no penalty for that as long as what you said is not an open threat to harm or kill the person, and that's also the reason why privacy is very important. On the forum, you are allowed to say what you want; if you don't like what the next person says against you, you can just turn a blind eye and move on. If someone calls you mad, that doesn't mean you are mad; if you think it's an insult to you and you can't bear it, you can either ignore the person or, from what I have learned from other reputable members, develop a thick skin to surf through any insult, criticism, or abusive words. In fact, the forum is cool the way it is; sometimes we learn when we are criticized or insulted for some sh*tt we do.
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Nothing needs to be changed in my opinion. Insults, insults or dirty words are common when someone is possessed by anger, but if you don't like it then you can just ignore it. The forum is only really concerned with threats of bodily harm or death threats, so if you get one then report it.
This is a unique discussion forum, there is freedom of speech but you can ignore anyone you don't like. You can take advantage of this feature if someone insults you and insults you, but it's a good idea to thicken your skin.
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September 07, 2023, 10:03:23 PM |
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People come from all kinds of backgrounds and cultures, right? Well, profanity can be pretty different depending on where you are. Some cultures are cool with it, others not so much. What's offensive in one place might not even raise an eyebrow somewhere else.
People should have the freedom to express themselves however they want! I mean, using swear words can be a way of showing your attitude, right? So, we shouldn't clamp down on that.
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September 07, 2023, 10:13:26 PM |
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Someone can always express their opinion in different ways - including using dirty words. The question is; Have you had it so far? If you are talking about trolls - then ignore them and don't even try to feed them. I don't think the forum will be responsible for the insults you get - but you can report the post for review although I don't know how the moderators handle it.
Did you know - someone who is insulted multiple times will probably be more successful than the user who insulted them. So just ignore it and live your life on the forum without caring about your feelings as much as possible.
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September 07, 2023, 10:15:54 PM |
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I have read where a big user of this forum was called a pedophile and he was so much wounded that he threatened to involve authorities.
I know the protracted drama you're referring to, and there was a lot more to it than just that accusation, and in fact if it was only that the pedophile accusation got slung I don't think the target member would have reacted the same way. I mean I can also call anyone a black monkey and go away with it.
Oh, that's one of the joys of the forum and my heart doth flutter when I think of Theymos's extreme tolerance of language. All of this racial stuff brings me back to 2016, when the world was only slightly less obsessed with victimhood trophies and identity politics. Fun times they were.
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