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September 16, 2023, 03:01:02 PM |
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That's a funny story, @OP ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) But we assume that it is a true story. It seems this was a mistake by your director @OP, who incorrectly provided a USDT address instead of a BTC address. But supposedly, when the address entered into any BTC wallet is not a BTC address, it will show an error as pointed out by @Cantsay and @Hatchy. But in this case, @OP may also be guilty of not explaining the differences between each coin, or BTC and USDT, so such a mistake occurred. If @OP is already in jail for that mistake, it's necessary so he doesn't lie and give false stories again.
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September 16, 2023, 03:40:47 PM |
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OP from what I could understand from your story is that you introduced a new payment option for your supermarket which is Bitcoin payment and from the looks you have taught your Boss how the Bitcoin ecosystem works but from what I have read here, it seems you did not teach him properly how to spot Bitcoin wallet address and how to use it for payment because if you had done that this issue would not have emanated and secondly I was thinking if your Boss and the customer did not see any error message while inputting the wallet address and trying to send payment because that should be the next pop up response they could have seen to make their corrections.
Lastly, as it is that you are the only one informed about Bitcoin in your work and you introduced it there it would have been nice you used the opportunity to educate other staff aside from your boss so they too could have the knowledge about Bitcoin that in your absence, they would be able to work with it instead of waiting for your return. With that you have succeeded in introducing your colleagues into Bitcoin and the awareness and adoption could have spread through that means. As it happens that you are the only one informed about Bitcoin in your organisation no one could handle such you could have told your boss to wait till you return from your break while they continue with their fiat payment as they have been doing for long. Well it is not your fault you wanted your organisation to be ahead of others so you could gain more customers and it is not your Boss fault as he is not well taught about the Bitcoin ecosystem and you also would not blame the customer too.
As you have said, it was just a misunderstanding between all of you which needs a peaceful resolve.
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September 16, 2023, 09:33:54 PM |
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There is a lot of inconsistency in OP’s story and I agree with those who believe the story was made up. But on the other hand, I think there is a lesson to learn here because OP is not the only one who has tried to add bitcoin payment in his business. Others have done so in the past, and there may be members who would want to do the same. I would advise you only accept bitcoin as a payment method if only you’re the sole owner of the business and you can bear the loss if anything goes wrong. The story presented by OP may be fictional but it shows how risky it is to coerce people to invest in bitcoin.
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September 17, 2023, 01:33:45 AM |
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There is a lot of inconsistency in OP’s story and I agree with those who believe the story was made up. But on the other hand, I think there is a lesson to learn here because OP is not the only one who has tried to add bitcoin payment in his business. Others have done so in the past, and there may be members who would want to do the same. I would advise you only accept bitcoin as a payment method if only you’re the sole owner of the business and you can bear the loss if anything goes wrong. The story presented by OP may be fictional but it shows how risky it is to coerce people to invest in bitcoin.
Yep true, accepting bitcoin in a business where we are the only person who actually understand how Bitcoin works is very risky, especially if we are not the one who will take most of the risk where something bad happened. Tho OP could make the owner learn the details of how bitcoin works and he should put extra effort on that, but still if something bad happened OP is the one that will be blamed.
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September 17, 2023, 01:46:55 AM |
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Was it my fault?
OP you seem to be making up an origin story. but if it's true, it's your fault anyway. Besides, it doesn't make sense when a boss who doesn't understand how Bitcoin works can accept your suggestion to accept Bitcoin as an alternative payment in his business? The boss's mindset will not be that easy to trust his subordinates. Maybe you can teach him, but when your boss doesn't really know how it works and the risks of using Bitcoin, I'm sure he won't just accept your advice. Moreover, your suggestion of using a centralized exchange platform as a payment account also proves that you yourself don't really know the risks of Bitcoin. Not to mention the wrong choice of address that you mentioned, a warning before sending coins will be clearly visible on the customer's device before making a transaction. Your story is very difficult to believe.
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September 17, 2023, 05:27:33 AM |
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I guess it is bad that you make an introduction with the bitcoin or the crypto itself because they understand how the market getting hyped with this, and they have different perspectives on it so if there are some cases that there's a chance they short in the balance of the total need to deposit or debit to their calculations there's some possible suspicious thing can accuse which is who the one who use other people more knowledgeable with the investment. I didn't tell you that you did this but we cannot remove the possibility of their perspective you open it up they remember and they make a speculation. This is the reason why not all the time we need to open up with the crypto.
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In as much as this story doesn't look true, it's sounds more like a fiction and doesn't hold grounds as the technicalities here in doesn't match up, I mean the events practical don't sound like something that really played out, even the police don't operate that way it's not logical at all OP and your boss wouldn't presume you stole for a transaction that definitely didn't go through, nevertheless here is a piece of advice,
When ever you want to introduce someone to something as this, make sure you have the proper knowledge about that which you are about to introduce someone into, don't teach someone about something you do not have a complete knowledge about so as not to get into trouble in the nearest future especially if it has to do with things that involves money as this., Always make disclaimers at some point so as to avoid future confrontations and if it does arise you will have a reference point to save your self. Lastly this forum is not a joke, cooked stories as this will not attract pity merits, work on your contents and make quality post and you will be sure to get merits.
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September 17, 2023, 06:54:26 PM |
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This is not possible at all for a bitcoin is sent to a USDT address. You need to exchange it first. In your case, the fault is yours as well as the director too. When you advised him to use bitcoin payment why you did not educate him about the bitcoin. After the advice you need to explain everything about Bitcoin to him and yeah he will never do such stupidity. Also, the director did the wrong thing in that he provided the USDT address instead of BTC and to repay his loss he arrested you to recover his lost money.
So be aware for the next time I know you advised him for his betterment but see how you get arrested by suggesting Bitcoin to the wrong person. Next time you advise someone then please give him a complete guideline about the bitcoin so you will not be arrested again.
As the wise peoples says 'A little knowledge is a dangerous thing'.
If you had read comments above, you wouldn't say that. Because USDT was initially only available on the Omni layer which is a layer2 network running on top of the Bitcoin blockchain. It means addresses used by this network are basic Bitcoin addresses. And as far as I know, Tether is still offering USDTs on this network, so if the guy has used a deposit address for USDTs on Omni or if the lady has sent Omni USDTs to a Bitcoin deposit address, it could happen. Funds could be recovered thanks to an Omni or Bitcoin wallet, with the private key of the address, if the exchange is ok to give it, though.
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...Was it my fault?
I think that this method of payment with bitcoins is not initially legal in your country. And you, since you are the manager of a supermarket, before offering such a method of payment for goods, you should have definitely found out this in order to avoid problems with law enforcement agencies.
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September 17, 2023, 07:44:59 PM |
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After that, I was granted bail, so I look for money to bail myself out, but the happiness I heard was that I didn't sell any of my coins while I was in a hard situation, so I know that since I didn't sell my coins to bail myself from the police cell I can hold my coins for longer time. Was it my fault?
Even though your story is a misunderstanding, you have to be careful about suggestions for accepting payments with Bitcoin where you work, education about cryptocurrencies, how to use them, and also the wallets that support them are not fully distributed, just look at the case you experienced, the woman sent bitcoins to a USDT wallet, how could this happen, besides that there is also the possibility that you will be made a scapegoat because of someone's mistake, in the future you have to be careful, you are not the owner of the super market, by the way, what about your job now? Do you still work there?
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September 17, 2023, 08:47:01 PM |
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The whole story look like an obvious bs story, first you told your boss to use “binance” to accept transactions which means he would be reusing his wallet addresses, and that might lead to issues since he won’t be able to differentiate who sent a transaction.
There is a transfer ID whenever someone do an internal transfer in binance besides even external transfers can be tracked. It can be verified through communication just like how the lending system here works. I also agree that the story sounds BS since there are flaws like what you stated. Aside from that, instead of accusing the person, his boss should have asked the question why he did not received the the payment of some client and not directly accusing him of stealing. The accusation will follow when @OP failed to explain why the coins is missing.
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Lies! lies!! lies!!!
If you insert a Usdt address (erc20 Or Bep20) it should show error or wrong address since they both start with “0x0” and that of trc20 starts with “T” and bitcoin addresses are either “1”, “3”, or “bc1” so how the heck did the lady send the coin to a Usdt address??
The whole story look like an obvious bs story, first you told your boss to use “binance” to accept transactions which means he would be reusing his wallet addresses, and that might lead to issues since he won’t be able to differentiate who sent a transaction.
I believe you are correct that the address is different from a wallet address, and I also believe that if the story were true, his boss wouldn't be acting in such a disrespectful manner. Instead, he would have called him to explain what had occurred and to provide him with the address to which the woman had sent the coin. I know that coin is not something that everyone can joke with, but if the tale is true, I believe he would want you to know what was going on before turning you over to the authorities. A good manager and a responsible human being would not behave in such a manner. The only thing I can add is that you should always make sure that your points are crystal clear before writing a post so that anyone who reads it will truly love it and even give you merit. This post is something that many people are seeing that you just posted it to earn merit because your story did not go well, so next time I think you should at least get some points that will make your post look good to people.
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This is a painful story where the rich will oppress the poor, and for your question, heck no, you are not guilty of anything. This kind of situation happens, and my brother told me a while ago how his friend sent an LTC address instead of a BTC address and the account was wrongly found. In summary, if you are in a good country, I advise you to press charges and let a lawyer write the employer for damages. But with the way the whole thing played, I doubt it if you are in a good country. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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OP, you should lock up this thread to avoid further bashing and prevent others from spamming here now that your post is alleged to be false. Let the case be closed.
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snip Was it my fault?
Yes, because you shouldn't suggest anyone to accept bitcoin unless you yourself have the sufficient knowledge. If you are using BTC as a payment at a shop you should first know about the regulations at your place. You should always use a self custodial wallet instead of binance especially when you are running a business. You should have made your boss learn about bitcoin before using it as a payment method. You should have argued with the cops because they can't arrest you without any legit evidence.
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When I read it, my first impression seemed to be that I was being invited to think about the problem you are telling about, then at the end of the story you are not a hero but a victim. a unique story but, what @pawanjain said is true and that is what actually happened to you for future evaluation.
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A few days later, I told the police to bring me the lady that sent the coins to my director's Bitcoin address, So they did. To cut a long story short, when I checked the address the lady sent the Bitcoin to, it was a USDT address that my director gave to the lady to send Bitcoin to unknowingly to him.
After that, I was granted bail, so I look for money to bail myself out, but the happiness I heard was that I didn't sell any of my coins while I was in a hard situation, so I know that since I didn't sell my coins to bail myself from the police cell I can hold my coins for longer time. Was it my fault?
You are not at fault here, First there’s no way to send Bitcoin to a USDT address since it will be tagged as invalid format which will me the sender unable to send(I’m not how you track the transaction but there’s no way to send tokens with different blockchain network therefore there will be no blockchain record to track the transaction). Second, Your boss agreed to use the cryptocurrency as payment method. It’s his call so that’s his fault whatever happened unless you really stolen the money.
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September 18, 2023, 03:34:21 PM |
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Lies! lies!! lies!!!
If you insert a Usdt address (erc20 Or Bep20) it should show error or wrong address since they both start with “0x0” and that of trc20 starts with “T” and bitcoin addresses are either “1”, “3”, or “bc1” so how the heck did the lady send the coin to a Usdt address??
The whole story look like an obvious bs story, first you told your boss to use “binance” to accept transactions which means he would be reusing his wallet addresses, and that might lead to issues since he won’t be able to differentiate who sent a transaction.
Yeah even considering the OP's post history, I was already skeptical about it. Something just sounds off about his story, like yeah just use crypto in accepting payments and stuff. I ain't a manager, but I don't think it's that simple in implementing crypto in businesses. Sure it's possible with sole owner owning a business, but if I heard a manager and higher ups, it's going to be that easy changing business flows.
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GeorgeJohn
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September 18, 2023, 06:30:18 PM |
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From the beginning of this story you will know directly that it's a frame composition in order to earn a merit, this totally a story made so you can give he or her a sympathy merit, actually from looks of the transaction I don't know were they are transferring the coin from, I don't think it's supportive using or transferring a bitcoin to usdt address, a bitcoin address is different from usdt wallet and its very obvious and it's identifiable when looking both of them,so this is a mere lies to fetch a merit.
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SatoPrincess
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September 18, 2023, 06:48:56 PM |
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From the beginning of this story you will know directly that it's a frame composition in order to earn a merit, this totally a story made so you can give he or her a sympathy merit, actually from looks of the transaction I don't know were they are transferring the coin from, I don't think it's supportive using or transferring a bitcoin to usdt address, a bitcoin address is different from usdt wallet and its very obvious and it's identifiable when looking both of them,so this is a mere lies to fetch a merit.
It shows how little OP knows about bitcoin transactions, and to think he supposedly convinced his boss to accept bitcoin as payment. Interestingly, OP has not made any comment here since his story was bashed as fake. He made a terrible mistake and has been rewarded for it with a neutral tag. I think this is end of this account as it has little value, he will likely create a new profile and try to start something.
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