Should Ratimov aka Symmetrick be in DT1?

[digaran]

This quote of yours makes me think that he is not a trust abuser. Why do you call him nazi? Because he is a German?

I will not respond here anymore, I have a topic on him, you can ask me there, but for clarification, he is a racist EXTREME. hence he is a nazi. Why don't I go around the forum and call random people nazi?
Whether you were born in Russia, in Romania, in China etc, if you are a racist, you are a nazi.
Edit: today's lesson is : a dictator who is also a racist is called "nazi".

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[1miau]

Whether you were born in Russia, in Romania, in China etc, if you are a racist, you are a nazi.

Luckily, I'm neither a racist nor a nazi. And I believe the same applies to Don Pedro Dinero, who was accused to be a "Nazi" as well in your excessive trolling rant.
Do you have some more aggressive name calling nonsense? Maybe Ratimov can learn something from you. 

[holydarkness]

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Whether you were born in Russia, in Romania, in China etc, if you are a racist, you are a nazi.

Umm... how? Racism is one of the view incorporated by nazism, but it's not interchangable. Someone in China can be a racist that'll shame the demon prince of racism and he's not necessarily a nazi simply because he did not having the nazism ideology.

Gazeta, pardon the small derailment.

[madnessteat]

maybe it’s worth reminding the person who likes to crunch their nose how the moderators covered for him when he threatened me with physical harm?
he once told me that he wanted to break my nose when we met, but instead of being banned, he now continues to intimidate us with negative feedback)
if he says that this is not so, I will try to find these threats in my archives) There will be many questions about whether Russian moderators were covering for him.. and if I’m not mistaken, he also tried to defend Ratimov then

Kingf1sher if this is true, I insist on finding those archives. Can you search them, please?

At same time, if you can, please share this topic in Russian local board as well. And, of course, add Ratimov to your distrust list.

I am not intimidating anyone, I am expressing my point of view and I have every right to do so. If you had any proof of Ratimov's abuses, I would have a completely different opinion of him. But you still have no solid evidence, so all your accusations are just assumptions. One must not forget the presumption of innocence.

As for Kingf1sher, I told him that where I live, words he said to me would get his nose broken. I did not threaten him. A threat implies that a person promises to do something bad to an opponent. I can't even imagine threatening someone on an anonymous forum. It's a load of crap.

As far as I remember our conflict was closed by mutual consent, as stated in the guidelines of the administrator of this forum.

I have never been covered by moderators, as any swearing on the forum is considered off-topic and is deleted by them according to the forum rules.

I am not a friend of Ratimov as you stated above. I tried to contact him via private messages regarding this thread, but he never replied to me.

If you have any claims against me then create a separate thread. I am ready to answer for my every word unlike you. As I have already said more than once on this forum I am ready to bear any punishment with my head up if I really deserve it, up to the blocking of the account, because I am an honest person and I have absolutely nothing to hide. Just take into account that I will request the support of DT members, as I clearly see that your actions are contrary to the recommendations of the administrator of this forum.

[digaran]

As for the recent discussion about 1miau, I believe that his reputation precedes him and everybody knows what an exemplary forum contributor he is.

This topic is about keeping certain people on DT, there has been so many verdicts, people have passed their judgements, I'm starting to think if OP is truly fit to be on DT or not, of course I have nothing against him, I don't find him untrustworthy. I'm just concerned about his poor judgement, after all we need vigilant people with good eyes to be able to spot exemplary members and introduce them to the community via DT inclusion.
New evidence resurfaced,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474713.msg63194074#msg63194074

Introducing an exemplary member according to Gazeta's opinion, which makes you wonder, how many of such great members are included on his trust list and the trust list of other DT members?

Gazeta posted that on 18 November, 1miau corruption has been confirmed on 21 November.
Poor judgement skills. Btw, I'm not here to defend Ratimov, but as I said before, if he corrects the past unjust feedbacks, no need to remove him from DT, but unfortunately he made a mistake by deleting a lot of his topics, which I don't think many people would forgive.

Bottom line, please don't use trust system for retaliation, things will work out in time if you were wronged by someone, instead open a thread and explain/defend yourself. Sorry for posting here again, it seemed important.

[GazetaBitcoin]

If you had any proof of Ratimov's abuses, I would have a completely different opinion of him.

All proof is in OP.

One must not forget the presumption of innocence.

Ratimov benefited from the presumption of innocence for 4 years. Until people finally started to open their eyes.

I am not a friend of Ratimov as you stated above.

I stated that you are his minion, not friend.

As I have already said more than once on this forum I am ready to bear any punishment with my head up if I really deserve it, up to the blocking of the account

This will happen if it'll be the case.


Meanwhile, Ratimov's no. 1 fan (after jokers10 decided to abandon the sinking ship, LOL!) decided that judgement of LoyceV, suchmoon and lovesmayfamilis is not up to his standards.



As a curiosity, he also distrusted me but 1h33'03" later he decided that I am not that untrustworthy so he deleted me from his distrust list.

[LoyceV]

decided that judgement of LoyceV, suchmoon and lovesmayfamilis is not up to his standards.

That's okay I'm much more curious why he still includes someone without Trust list and without sent feedback.

[jokers10]

after jokers10 decided to abandon the sinking ship, LOL!

Is this topic about Ratimov or about me? If you are interpreting my actions the way you like despite that I said everything I wanted about the case myself, I have a lot of doubts that you are unbiased enough to judge any other's behavior. The more you interpret others' actions now, the more this topic starts to be about you and the way you behave than about Ratimov.

[GazetaBitcoin]

That's okay

LMAO!
My dear Marcel, I think you should, instead, work harder for elevating your judgement to madnessteat's standards

I'm much more curious why he still includes someone without Trust list and without sent feedback.

That's a good question and it applies also to the remaining 47 users which still trust Ratimov (they were 49 in the last update, but meanwhile Charles-Tim also deleted him from his Trust list) -- Balthazar, silversurfer1958, peloso, Gianluca95, rby, SiNeReiNZzz, thandie, tmfp, s0nix, WhiteManWhite, nimogsm, SPQRCoin, my luck, FutureBitcoin, Wapfika, dimonstration, whyrqa, BtcMan2009, CarnagexD, imhoneer, Chrystora123, Best_Change, KTChampions, Smartprofit, Coin-1, Julien_Olynpic, sky999, Ridcan, bubbalex, XEOP$, taikuri13, Snork1979, DabLjat, FontSeli, YOSHIE, elmanchez, KOPHEP, WEX-SCAM, ajanwalker, Zilon, _BlackStar, Shamm, KingsDen, Nathrixxx, SatoPrincess, Silence Scream and Jossque.

KOPHEP and Nathrixxx are banned so they can't answer this question, while others are inactive. Yet the question is still valid for many of the names mentioned above.

[KaosanRoad]

after jokers10 decided to abandon the sinking ship, LOL!

Is this topic about Ratimov or about me? If you are interpreting my actions the way you like despite that I said everything I wanted about the case myself, I have a lot of doubts that you are unbiased enough to judge any other's behavior. The more you interpret others' actions now, the more this topic starts to be about you and the way you behave than about Ratimov.

I think this topic is about user Ratimov.... if you dont like people that typing your nick you should disable notifications 

[jokers10]

after jokers10 decided to abandon the sinking ship, LOL!

Is this topic about Ratimov or about me? If you are interpreting my actions the way you like despite that I said everything I wanted about the case myself, I have a lot of doubts that you are unbiased enough to judge any other's behavior. The more you interpret others' actions now, the more this topic starts to be about you and the way you behave than about Ratimov.

I think this topic is about user Ratimov.... if you dont like people that typing your nick you should disable notifications 

It will probably be comfortable for some, but is it what I really should do? Why? Just because it will be easier for some to tease an absent opponent? One-man show could be an interesting idea for theater, but it is not as good for forums.

Of course some can ignore teasing... but some prefer not to. If it is a topic about "user Ratimov" then it should be not so hard to not to discuss me here.

[KaosanRoad]

after jokers10 decided to abandon the sinking ship, LOL!

Is this topic about Ratimov or about me? If you are interpreting my actions the way you like despite that I said everything I wanted about the case myself, I have a lot of doubts that you are unbiased enough to judge any other's behavior. The more you interpret others' actions now, the more this topic starts to be about you and the way you behave than about Ratimov.

I think this topic is about user Ratimov.... if you dont like people that typing your nick you should disable notifications 

It will probably be comfortable for some, but is it what I really should do? Why? Just because it will be easier for some to tease an absent opponent? One-man show could be an interesting idea for theater, but it is not as good for forums.

Of course some can ignore teasing... but some prefer not to. If it is a topic about "user Ratimov" then it should be not so hard to not to discuss me here.

Up to you what you should do or not do, you can choose to ignore and not be bothered. Or you can choose to not ignore and be bothered.. but if you can choose option one, is strange to choose option two and also complain.. jus relax bro, they are just talking about you nothing more.. relax enjoy life

[madnessteat]

If you had any proof of Ratimov's abuses, I would have a completely different opinion of him.

All proof is in OP.

One must not forget the presumption of innocence.

Ratimov benefited from the presumption of innocence for 4 years. Until people finally started to open their eyes.

I am not a friend of Ratimov as you stated above.

I stated that you are his minion, not friend.

As I have already said more than once on this forum I am ready to bear any punishment with my head up if I really deserve it, up to the blocking of the account

This will happen if it'll be the case.


Meanwhile, Ratimov's no. 1 fan (after jokers10 decided to abandon the sinking ship, LOL!) decided that judgement of LoyceV, suchmoon and lovesmayfamilis is not up to his standards.



As a curiosity, he also distrusted me but 1h33'03" later he decided that I am not that untrustworthy so he deleted me from his distrust list.

As I have said many times in this thread this is not evidence but conjecture. If you presented such evidence in court, it would be immediately dismissed for lack of arguments.

I am neither a friend nor a minion of Ratimov. I know him as a useful user of this forum and that is enough for me to express my position when you try to suppress it.

I'm still thinking of adding you to my trust list with a tilde. I will keep an eye on your future behavior. So far it only indicates that you are unworthy of being in DT because you are jumping to conclusions based only on your hunches. That's not good enough. And rest assured that many people think so, but for some reason fear you.

Who I trust is my personal opinion and none of your business. No need to make a tragedy out of it or try to push me head-on with these forumers.

There was a time when I trusted LoyceV, suchmoon and lovesmayfamilis more.

LoyceV is a helpful forum member whose work I respect, but it's not entirely clear to me how he was able to take your side in this conflict. I guess he trusted you and therefore didn't take enough time to analyze the situation on his own.

suchmoon has surprised me for the second time. He was explained the whole situation with this conflict in Russian-language locale in detail almost minute by minute, but he still supports you. Even though he can't refute anything.

I was a staunch defender of lovesmayfamilis when she was banned. In part, I had a hand in mitigating her punishment. At least I think I did. I've long noticed that she has an opposing opinion to me on certain disputes regarding reputation on the forum, so I removed her from my trust list. I've been wanting to do this for a while, but I've been hesitant to do so.

It's quite possible that I'll put some of them back on my trust list.

 

[LoyceMobile]

LoyceV is a helpful forum member whose work I respect, but it's not entirely clear to me how he was able to take your side in this conflict. I guess he trusted you and therefore didn't take enough time to analyze the situation on his own.

I didn't take OP's side, I said that in my opinion both users shouldn't have left negative feedback for this. I don't easily exclude users, I think of it as a scale. Once it tips too far, I'll have to exclude someone. Let's say OP gave me only one reason to exclude him, Ratimov gave multiple reasons over the years.

[examplens]

Ratimov gave multiple reasons over the years.

Ratimov?? Who is Ratimov?  You mean Symmetrick?
This drama will never end. Ratimov changed his username, now he is Symmetrick 

[alani123]

So Symmetric (ex. Ratimov) went to the full length of lodging a request with a site administrator just to change his username? AFAIK this is the only way it's possible to be done outside of being a VIP (50 BTC donation).
And it was granted just like that? Uhhh... Weird but ok. 

[Bitcoin_Arena]

So Symmetric (ex. Ratimov) went to the full length of lodging a request with a site administrator just to change his username? AFAIK this is the only way it's possible to be done outside of being a VIP (50 BTC donation).
And it was granted just like that? Uhhh... Weird but ok. 

I know a handful of members who were able to change their usernames upon making a request to the Administrator. It's not something automatic, but it's possible if someone making the request has valid reasons even if they were not VIP. From the administrative point of view, I don't see anything odd. From a user point of view… Well well well...

[paid2]

So Symmetric (ex. Ratimov) went to the full length of lodging a request with a site administrator just to change his username? AFAIK this is the only way it's possible to be done outside of being a VIP (50 BTC donation).
And it was granted just like that? Uhhh... Weird but ok.  

I know a handful of members who were able to change their usernames upon making a request to the Administrator. It's not something automatic, but it's possible if someone making the request has valid reasons even if they were not VIP. From the administrative point of view, I don't see anything odd. From a user point of view… Well well well...

I'm jealous lol! It's been 6 months since I asked to change my username to the admins!  


edit : wow thank you! @theymos

[Bitcoin_Arena]

I'm jealous lol! It's been 6 months since I asked to change my username to the admins! 

Sometimes it takes a very tong time, but just hang in there and don't give up. Help me count. How many months were those, minus the time he waited after sending PMs? 

[Plaguedeath]

If the @OP change the subject to "Should Ratimov/Symmetrick be in DT1?" does it kills the purpose of changing username?

edit : wow thank you! @theymos

I think every users who have/want to request to change their username need to post in this thread.

Anyway congratulations, now your username looks simpler.