Should Ratimov aka Symmetrick be in DT1?

[GazetaBitcoin]

It does not need to be a larger scale event. The problem here is that the forum is in limbo, the members are from very different countries and we are not identified, but in my country, and I'm sure it's not the only one, you could be sued for something like that, it's about 1.500€.

It would be interesting to see if any of the winners (if not all) will create a flag against Ratimov's sudden decision to not do the promised payment. They would be entitled to accuse him, since they would be the ones prejuduced.

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[Shishir99]

But what if Rollbit or Sportsbet denies to pay the promised prize? Wouldn't you guys leave them a tag because they were suppose to pay the prize. Isn't it same like a person promised he will pay if I win, now I won, but he said he won't pay me. I guess it's same. The difference is, the corrent contest isn't ended yet.

Well I suppose there would be debate as now, because of the previous positive reputation of those houses, but I'm sure if it was a lesser known house or the forumer in question one with a lesser previous reputation he would already have some red in his profile.

We see debates because most of the cases against casinos are not clear enough. If a player accuses any casino of a scam, we know that most of the player does not tell the full story. They write it as if they are the victim. They always avoid the part where they abuse the platform. Which is the reason we cannot take any side without any proof. Now, If you talk about the prize of some contest, what would you do?

In most cases, people won't react even if they withdraw the prize from the pool in a couple of weeks. What if they ran a contest for eleven months saying they would give you the prize and suddenly withdraw it? The host should be more responsible regarding the prize and the funds too.

[Bitcoin SV]

Theymos, what kind of circus is going on here?

That guy Ratimov left DT a long ago on his own initiative.

Why are all these blaming clowns still hanging around here, in the topic: Should Ratimov aka Symmetrick be in DT1?

Heloooooo? Anybody home? At you all? That guy Ratimov left DT a long ago on his own initiative.

I repeat for the stupid:

Fact: Ratimov left DT a long ago on his own initiative.
Topic name: Should Ratimov aka Symmetrick be in DT1  

Should? How can he get out of DT if he is not a member there?

[Wapfika]

Fact: Ratimov left DT a long ago on his own initiative.
Topic name: Should Ratimov aka Symmetrick be in DT1  

Should? How can he get out of DT if he is not a member there?

He is once a DT and just distrusted by many DT that’s why he got removed. His change of name recently makes it looks like that he is not a DT a long time ago or never become a DT since it’s fresh data for his new username.

This thread serves as discussion on his recent action on why he is not a DT anymore and other aftermath matters

[digaran]

Look, I'm not going to apply Occam's toothbrush here, but here it is, if it smells like a scam, if it feels like a scam, and if it looks like a scam, then it is %100 a scam. But you'll get used to it. I might even surpass your ratings before the end of my miserable forum life.

What I wonder, I'm a jobless clown, but you have so many idiots buying your centralized scam, why are you here? You need sig spam payment? No more idiots buying your garbage?
This topic is now about a decision whether it warrants to tag someone for cancelling a sponsorship or not and to discuss whether or not if it was someone else, the same tag would have be given out without hesitation or not?

In another words, people here are figuring out how to agree upon a reasonable double standard.

Since there are no guidelines to follow, everyone expresses their opinions, until someone or a gang leader likes it, then it will become one of the DT's standards.
I'm sure you must know these things since you have a tent in courts for a while now.🤣
And btw, why do you shout admin's name? Did you drop on your head when you were a child or something? This is a decentralized trust system, there are no authorities here. You decide what is good or bad, and then if gang members liked it, they will give you a thumbs up, otherwise ~

Now is time for me to ignore this board and hit the road.
Meep meep! Lol @Tl you taught me this one.

[BenCodie]

I might even surpass your ratings before the end of my miserable forum life.

Hey, that was sad to read. While you are eccentric, and troll often, just know that there are onlookers who enjoy the better side of your posts, and hope that your forum life takes a turn for the better. I've always rooted for the underdog and I'm rooting for you! I hope that the forum isn't miserable for you one day. It shouldn't be for anyone that isn't a scammer or causing severe harm to anyone in the community.  I don't think you're either of those AFAIK.

On-topic - I've never interacted with Symmetrick/Ratimov, but I respect the contributions he made to forum in terms of the amount of knowledge he's contributed on the topic of Cyber security/Privacy (this is somewhat ironic considering I read he got dox'd, in a pretty slack fashion too)

From an outsider, it looks more like this thread is an ongoing witch hunt more than a legitimate removal from this DT system...I respect Gazeta and his contributions to the forum - but this feels more like Ratimov/Symmetrick is purposefully under the microscope even after Ratimov/Symmetrick left DT1. He's out, mission accomplished? Just lock the thread unless they get back in DT1/Somehow re-include themselves?...and if so, then reopen the thread? Or is the new goal to give them negative trust with the microscope, hence thread staying open?

[Shishir99]

SNIP

Look, digaran. I believe you do not deserve that many negative tags. But once someone leaves you a tag for a controversial reason, some others do not hesitate to leave another tag for the same reason because they believe the first person who left the tag was accurate and they just followed the previous user. For example, let's say I am a DT member, and I left you a tag saying Digaran is a plagiarist. Even if the proof is insufficient, another DT member will be influenced to leave you a tag. It does not happen all the time. But the 2nd tag has some influence, of course. You are still in the campaign because you are not a shit poster like many others who spam gambling boards and never explore the other side of the forum. So, they do not risk their reputation, but they are making money by writing shit posts. You need to cool down and refrain from doing stupid things you did in the past. Return to the reputation board after a year and ask DT members to review the feedback without calling them out. More importantly, stop responding to everyone.

[mrust_mobile]

Leave digaran alone. Digaran did nothing wrong :,(

Also “symmetrick” should be “cheaptrick”

[suchmoon]

From an outsider, it looks more like this thread is an ongoing witch hunt more than a legitimate removal from this DT system...I respect Gazeta and his contributions to the forum - but this feels more like Ratimov/Symmetrick is purposefully under the microscope even after Ratimov/Symmetrick left DT1. He's out, mission accomplished? Just lock the thread unless they get back in DT1/Somehow re-include themselves?...and if so, then reopen the thread? Or is the new goal to give them negative trust with the microscope, hence thread staying open?

It's better to keep the thread open collecting all the drama in one place rather than having all sorts of digarans create a bunch of new ones if this is locked. It's not like Symmetrick would magically cease stomping his feet and lashing out upon locking the thread.

[Bitcoin SV]

This thread serves as discussion on his recent action on why he is not a DT anymore and other aftermath matters

Oh, really?
Maybe then rename the topic from "Should Ratimov aka Symmetrick be in DT1?" to "Discussion of former DT member Ratimov"?
To at least somehow correspond to common sense?

Ratimov was in DT. Symmetrick was never in DT. At the time he was in DT, he was not Symmetrick. How can you discuss something that didn't happen?

Topic should be renamed to "Discussion of former DT member Ratimov"? Otherwise it's all bullshit that not corresponding to common sense! And all blamers here are trust-abusers

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shut up cunt


THEYMOS, WHERE IS A DECENTRALIZATION OF DT? Why these DT trolls acts centrally?
paid2 are you trust abuser? If you dont like BSV coin - why didn't you redtagged me earlier? Why did you tagged me after this message? Are you a part of centralized DT pocket army of Lauda?

[alani123]

I like this logic.
pirateat40 was one of the first and biggest scammers with bitcoin at the time.
So If he comes back and changes his username now, does this absolve him of his crimes?
Are we supposed to form a gang with whatever criminal and scammer comes here with a changed name and never snitch on their wrongdoings?
inb4 bitcointalk becomes the biggest gang in the world.

I think you're confusing a username with witness protection programs @Bitcoin SV

[Bitcoin SV]

Also “symmetrick” should be “cheaptrick”

I think your brain has completely dried out.

[GazetaBitcoin]

Heads-up: after multiple users requested something like this, I created a "Tl; dr version" of OP (and of the events following OP) in post #2. I'll keep this post updated based on evolution of current events. I also mentioned in OP that a sum-up is available in post #2.

Anyway, I'm not advocating for red trust, but I also probably wouldn't oppose a flag if any of the participants of the contest can provide solid reasoning based on the facts of this "sponsor" deal alone (without detours to plagiarism and all the other drama).

While I am not 100% certain if he deserves negative feedback(s) or not for his sudden cancelling of the sponsorship, after earning merits / popularity / reputation for almost 1 year while he appeared as a generous sponsor of this contest, I believe it will be legit if contest winners will raise flag(s) against him -- and I'll also support them.

"Trick".

This new nickname fits nicely

I also share this thought

In this guy's case everything looks shady. Even the new name, because "Symmetrick" contains the part "Trick"... Like he is trying another trick. Maybe his final trick before exiting the stage? Oo

His change of name recently makes it looks like that he is not a DT a long time ago or never become a DT since it’s fresh data for his new username.

If you followed the discussion, you could notice that he was kicked out of DT on November 7th and not a long time ago. This happened as a result of the existence of this topic combined with Ratimov / Symmetrick's recent actions. You can find a sum-up of all this topic discussion in post #2.

I've never interacted with Symmetrick/Ratimov, but I respect the contributions he made to forum in terms of the amount of knowledge he's contributed

You should bear in mind that 90% of all his contributions were plagiarized or copy-pasted (based on his own words):

Quoting for historical reference and take a look at messages at numbers 33, 101, 108, 115.

Here, really original content, maybe 10%, the rest is all a copy-paste of finished materials or partial use of someone else's material.

this feels more like Ratimov/Symmetrick is purposefully under the microscope even after Ratimov/Symmetrick left DT1. He's out, mission accomplished? Just lock the thread unless they get back in DT1/Somehow re-include themselves?...and if so, then reopen the thread? Or is the new goal to give them negative trust with the microscope, hence thread staying open?

I had in mind to lock the thread after the question from OP has been answered -- "Should Ratimov aka Symmetrick be in DT1?" -- (and the outcome was that he belongs nowhere near DT) but things escalated, as Ratimov / Symmetrick, after the apparition of this topic, proceeded to apparently an endless list of other shady actions (summarized in post #2). Since I thought it was not needed to have new topics for his new dementia I decided to leave this thread open -- and, as a consequence, his following actions were presented (and debated) here.

And, as you see, suchmoon said something similar:

It's better to keep the thread open collecting all the drama in one place rather than having all sorts of digarans create a bunch of new ones if this is locked. It's not like Symmetrick would magically cease stomping his feet and lashing out upon locking the thread.

Leave digaran alone. Digaran did nothing wrong :,(

Also “symmetrick” should be “cheaptrick”

Lol!

[Bitcoin SV]

was one of the first and biggest scammers with bitcoin at the time.
So If he comes back and changes his username now, does this absolve him of his crimes?

Is this scammer pirateat40 has done a lot of useful things for the forum like Ratimov? I believe each issue should be resolved individually. Putting this scammer pirateat40 on the same level as Ratimov is completely absurd! BTW Thermos by default never changes nicknames for scammers. And this points that Thermos considers Ratimov a good person. Are you clowns here are daring to object to the Thermos? So soon you will all fly out of DT by yourself

Are we supposed to form a gang with whatever criminal and scammer comes here with a changed name and never snitch on their wrongdoings?

Then don’t shout anymore that your DT is decentralized. You are a feudal centralized corrupted parasites, that has been controlled by the one puppeteer

[Learn Bitcoin]

paid2 are you trust abuser? If you dont like BSV coin - why didn't you redtagged me earlier? Why did you tagged me after this message? Are you a part of centralized DT pocket army of Lauda?

Another troll woke up after a long period of time. I have heard about you and saw your old posts, too. But this is the first time I've seen you trolling around us. Maybe he didn't see you earlier to tag you. But when he noticed you had just woken up again with a bull run ahead, you started advertising your scam coin.

I believe you have enough tags in your profile. So, I won't bother to tag you as it won't show as default. Do you claim it's the original Satoshi vision? LOL. I guess you are trolling. 

[paid2]

paid2 are you trust abuser? If you dont like BSV coin - why didn't you redtagged me earlier? Why did you tagged me after this message? Are you a part of centralized DT pocket army of Lauda?

Another troll woke up after a long period of time. I have heard about you and saw your old posts, too. But this is the first time I've seen you trolling around us. Maybe he didn't see you earlier to tag you. But when he noticed you had just woken up again with a bull run ahead, you started advertising your scam coin.

I believe you have enough tags in your profile. So, I won't bother to tag you as it won't show as default. Do you claim it's the original Satoshi vision? LOL. I guess you are trolling. 

100% ! 

As I have BSV on my ignore list I missed that, but you already answered Learn Bitcoin, thanks !


Btw @Bitcoin SV, I think Lauda was already gone when I joined Bitcointalk. About the tag, it is well deserved. (Please stop derailing Gazeta's thread, we are here to talk about Symmetov!)

[GazetaBitcoin]

Heads-up about Ratimov / Symmetrick's situation:

- He is no longer a merit source. This was common sense, since he had no respect even for his Merit Source application thread, which he trashed as well. In fact, I actually stated this is what should happen, due to such lack of common sense..
- The number of those which trust him decreases week after week. At same time, the number of those distrusting him grows week after week. At the moment 45 users trust him, while 54 distrust him.
- During past week Coin-1 stopped trusting him while sokani added him to his distrust list. Thank you for your involvement!

[_BlackStar]

Heads-up about Ratimov / Symmetrick's situation:

- He is no longer a merit source. This was common sense, since he had no respect even for his Merit Source application thread, which he trashed as well. In fact, I actually stated this is what should happen, due to such lack of common sense..
- The number of those which trust him decreases week after week. At same time, the number of those distrusting him grows week after week. At the moment 45 users trust him, while 54 distrust him.
- During past week Coin-1 stopped trusting him while sokani added him to his distrust list. Thank you for your involvement!

Based on my own interpretation - I have also considered remove Ratimov from my trust list. Of course - I don't like got him act like he did a few times ago by deleting many of user posts on his thread even though I really respect his knowledge and contributions. I didn't put Ratimov on my distrust list - that's because he's had valid tags in the past for cheating accounts or something.

[GazetaBitcoin]

I didn't put Ratimov on my distrust list - that's because he's had valid tags in the past for cheating accounts or something.

He has 0 left tags now. Practically you are trusting someone for 0 feedbacks left.

[digaran]

I didn't put Ratimov on my distrust list - that's because he's had valid tags in the past for cheating accounts or something.

He has 0 left tags now. Practically you are trusting someone for 0 feedbacks left.

So now what will happen to all those scammers and cheaters now that they can roam the forum freely and continue their business as usual? I guess there is no hope because we all are gonna get scammed now, right? 😂
Time for the forum police to rewrite all those tickets again.