Should Ratimov aka Symmetrick be in DT1?

[LoyceV]

If trading with Ratimov Symmetrick is high risk then shouldn't this feedback be a negative one though?

Of course. And LoyceV is well aware of it.

I considered it, but I also try to be conservative with negative feedback. For now, I think 2 DT-negatives are already a strong warning for anyone not to deal with the account.
We'll see if the sponsorship-thing turns into a Flag by one of the winners next month. If it's created, I'll probably Support it.

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[Poker Player]

I considered it, but I also try to be conservative with negative feedback.

Really? I would never have imagined it. 

 

For now, I think 2 DT-negatives are already a strong warning for anyone not to deal with the account.

Where does it say that if you think a deal with a user is high risk but he already has two feedbacks he doesn't need any more? I just read:

Neutral - Other comments.

Negative - You think that trading with this person is high-risk. You might also be able to add a flag.

For anyone who left Ratimov positive feedback in the past: Let me put it this way: would you trust Ratimov again now? I think "trading with this person is high-risk" applies at the moment, and for that, changing historic positive feedback can help protect others.

I completely disagree with this. Feedback have a date and for me if someone had a successful trade with Ratimov in the past he should not delete what he wrote, simply if he thinks he is high risk now he should add negative feedback as of today.

You are asking others to do what you do not want to do: to enhance the danger of trading risk. You prefer it to be enhanced by deleting old positive feedback instead of adding current negative feedback.

I guess we agree to disagree on this.

[LoyceV]

Where does it say that if you think a deal with a user is high risk but he already has two feedbacks he doesn't need any more?

In my post
Seriously though, it's up to any potential trade partner to make apply their own judgement of the feedback on an account. I used neutral so it's a warning without harsh consequences. That may change in the future, but I wouldn't be surprised if Ratimov doesn't return.

I completely disagree with this. Feedback have a date and for me if someone had a successful trade with Ratimov in the past he should not delete what he wrote, simply if he thinks he is high risk now he should add negative feedback as of today.

I'd say: "it depends". User yogg went from +32 / =0 / -0 a year ago to #  +13 / =0 / -43 now. This means the majority of DT removed their positive feedback.
On the other hand, there's this account, where RHavar left positive feedback in 2016, and negative feedback in 2019. This way, it shows a timeline of events and going from trusted to untrusted.

You are asking others to do what you do not want to do: to enhance the danger of trading risk. You prefer it to be enhanced by deleting old positive feedback instead of adding current negative feedback.

It's more that I don't think the old feedback still applies.

I guess we agree to disagree on this.

Agreed I love democracy

[GazetaBitcoin]

Heads-up about Ratimov / Symmetrick's situation:

- The number of those which trust him decreases week after week. At same time, the number of those distrusting him grows week after week. At the moment 32 users trust him, while 61 distrust him.
- bubbalex and imhoneer stopped trusting him, while FatFork and digaran distrusted him. Thank you for your involvement!
- He is still trusted by a substantial number of 34 users (including 1 from DT1) from which only 13 are recently active: Zilon, Julien_Olynpic, madnessteat, FontSeli, ajanwalker, Gianluca95, rby, FutureBitcoin, dimonstration, whyrqa, CarnagexD, Best_Change, KTChampions.

[nutildah]

He deleted all his trust ratings, withdrew all his flags, is no longer eligible for DT & hasn't logged in since Dec 11th, safe to say the story is over.

As he committed forum self-immolation in spectacular fashion, there's really no point to continue to stomp around on his charred remains.

[GazetaBitcoin]

safe to say the story is over.

I guess the story will be really over after Halab's contest ends... I feel some more things will happen after the contest announces its winners.

As he committed forum self-immolation in spectacular fashion, there's really no point to continue to stomp around on his charred remains.

You are right. I will discontinue these updates until the end of that contest...

[mrust_mobile]

He could have sold his account in secret and do a homerun but he wanted all the fireworks instead 

[paid2]

He could have sold his account in secret and do a homerun but he wanted all the fireworks instead 

It looks like he did both 

[suchmoon]

He could have sold his account in secret and do a homerun but he wanted all the fireworks instead  

If he sold the account he doesn't have to care anymore if it's a secret or a firework. Fucked the buyer probably, or maybe not because the buyer seems to have profitably absconded with some signature money if I'm reading the latest nonsense correctly, but either way it's not like account buyers add any value to the forum.

[mindrust]

He could have sold his account in secret and do a homerun but he wanted all the fireworks instead  

It looks like he did both  

The account is pretty much ruined though. I don't think the buyer paid the top dollar for the account. The only thing usable there is the huge amount of smerits (since he is not a merit source) and they are all tainted now. Every time he sends them, the receiving user will look like an alt of him.

He could have kept the situation under control till he sold the account.

[digaran]

Anyone knows how many red tags were removed when he deleted them all? Back in the days I had an offer of 0.02 per case and price was $1000 per BTC, now lets just say $200 per tag, I won not one case, but so many of them like a class action. Now who said I can't do it?
If you need my evidence, tell me so I can provide them step by step, after 5 years I did it. 😉 remember not to challenge a deranged jobless clown.

[suchmoon]

He could have kept the situation under control till he sold the account.

The alleged sale likely took place early in the drama and before the mixer ban, so the account was still very lucrative. Don't feel bad for Ratimov, I'm sure he made some decent coin out of this and is spinning up a new merit farm as we speak.

[Shishir99]

And who knows if he has another account that may still be active in this forum? If someone loves forums and it become their daily routine to check Bitcointalk threads, they will still continue visiting the website to check threads without even logging in. Who knows maybe Lauda still watching us and sometimes laughing seeing how we often discuss her. Or, if someone takes the forum as one of the earning sources, you won't be able to kick them out of the community. They will be there with new names, and new identities and you will never know how many of them returned with a new identity. Probably, you could think that I am glad I haven't seen that stupid for a while, but you are getting engaged regularly with his alt accounts maybe you have a good understanding with his alt account without even understanding who it is! we don't know! think twice!

[Poker Player]

Fucked the buyer probably, or maybe not because the buyer seems to have profitably absconded with some signature money if I'm reading the latest nonsense correctly, but either way it's not like account buyers add any value to the forum.

This is not clear to me. It seems that indeed whoever was managing the account lately pocketed the money [banned mixer] gave him in advance and has disappeared from the forum but we have not heard anything official from them who are the ones who should create a flag if this is so.

It is not clear to me if maybe they do not say anything because they do not want to show that they have been fooled, if that has been the case.

[BlackHatCoiner]

I read about this a couple of days ago, and I've been thinking of writing something substantial, but fuck it. I'm at a loss of words.

That bastard really bought himself low and sold him high.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I guess the story will be really over after Halab's contest ends... I feel some more things will happen after the contest announces its winners.

He will soon deprive you of sleep.

Unfortunately, user Ratimov is dead.

Please take this into account if you rely on his participation in this or use his data.

This account will be blocked soon.

Do not contact anyone who will try to speak on his behalf, these are all scammers and speculators.

I don't know where exactly I should write about this, but I just saw your private message with a link to this theme, so I'm reporting it here.

Looks like this is the end of the story.

[digaran]

I guess the story will be really over after Halab's contest ends... I feel some more things will happen after the contest announces its winners.

He will soon deprive you of sleep.

Unfortunately, user Ratimov is dead.

Please take this into account if you rely on his participation in this or use his data.

This account will be blocked soon.

Do not contact anyone who will try to speak on his behalf, these are all scammers and speculators.

I don't know where exactly I should write about this, but I just saw your private message with a link to this theme, so I'm reporting it here.

Looks like this is the end of the story.

Really sad story, only if he could have apologized for all the wrongdoings and continue participating without bullying people. But instead he chose to hide in shame. IMO, everyone deserves to be forgiven, even when you kill someone, God has provided the option of forgiving. It's never too late to correct the mistakes of the past as long as we have the chance, which means as long as we are alive. Because the moment we see the angel of death, no amount of apology and repent would do us any good. This should be a lesson for us all.
Now the comedy part:
Let us stay silent for 1 minute for the loss of our fallen hero. 😂
I hope he could do a final heroic act of dumping all his smerits on me, so I can rank up. Lol

[Learn Bitcoin]

Unfortunately, user Ratimov is dead.

Please take this into account if you rely on his participation in this or use his data.

This account will be blocked soon.

Do not contact anyone who will try to speak on his behalf, these are all scammers and speculators.

I don't know where exactly I should write about this, but I just saw your private message with a link to this theme, so I'm reporting it here.

Looks like this is the end of the story.

Unfortunately, there is no way we can confirm it. If there is any person who he personally could try to contact his family members to know the truth! If his death is true, then I am sorry for him. He could have been a better person, but no blame right now. But, since we are speculating that the account changed hands, we never know if it's true. I was never personally affected by any of his actions. But, I would request everyone not to hold anything bad for him since the person has passed away!

But, nothing is confirmed yet. Let's wait if we see something.

[Poker Player]

Wow, what a timely death.

It looks like he had been preparing it.

I'm skeptical by nature, and when someone deletes all posts, feedbacks, announces that he is no longer a sponsor etc etc and suddenly after 15 days without logging in someone appears, who magically had the passwords to enter the forum, and announces his death, I don't believe it.

Although for forum purposes it is the same thing. He was dead before he announced it.

[suchmoon]

Although for forum purposes it is the same thing. He was dead before he announced it.

Lauda also said that user Lauda is dead or something to that effect but obviously that didn't mean the person died.