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October 09, 2023, 03:56:23 PM
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Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Here my opinion would be that as per present time oil is a bigger strength than agriculture for the development of a country.  Because all of the agricultural products that are currently in use, from fertilizers to all types of improvement technologies, require oil to operate. We are now in a situation where if the oil supply is not adequate, not only agricultural but also many other sectors will be faced with many obstructions.
The points I mentioned above are applicable to the current situation. But there is no guarantee that the role or necessity of oil will remain the same in the future as many environmentally friendly technologies are currently being developed to reduce dependency on oil. Agriculture is one thing that will remain forever because agriculture is the main source of human survival.  That's why you can see that many countries in the Middle East that are on the top list in oil production are also undertaking various projects to increase soil fertility in their countries. Because if any kind of big pandemic has to face people again, people can save their lives without oil but cannot live without food.

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October 09, 2023, 05:10:19 PM
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We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

Oil plays a very important role in the economy of any country. Just as Arab countries have oil resources, although there is nothing in the agricultural sector, their entire agriculture depends on other countries, but their economy is very strong because of oil. Therefore, they can easily import anything from any country in the world. Given the power of oil, we cannot say that the agriculture sector should be neglected. In terms of food, if a country is self-sufficient rather than dependent on another country, it should be considered an economic power.

Be it war, political differences or global sanctions, the importance of agriculture increases even more. If the agricultural sector is strong, it will face less problems. Both oil and agriculture are essential to a strong economy, and both are important in their own place, but if times get tough, I think agriculture can be more useful in economic power.
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October 09, 2023, 05:37:36 PM
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From my paspective both Agriculture and oil is needed in our economy growth,
Agriculture has been supportive in our today economy, because in our daily live we make use of agriculture product. When it comes to the production of medicine agriculture is needed because drugs are produce from planting and chemical materials, the rearing of meat, fish, the planting of foods such as yam, cassava, everything is just related to agriculture.
When it comes to oil, oil is needed for the production of fuel, kerosene, and countries make billions through the help of trading oil, for example my country remain dependent on oil revenue.

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October 09, 2023, 06:04:53 PM
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Both are important but i think oil is way important. You can grow basic food almost anywhere. Potatoes for example, they grow very fast and easy and we consume them every day. There are also greenhouse products. This tech lets you grow anything anywhere. Let’s just say, if you invest enough time and money, you can grow your own food but if you don’t have oil, you can‘t grow it no matter how hard you try. You can only buy it from somebody else. Oil and gas are the most important energy sources. Without them the civilization would collapse.

Tldr; oil > agri
One is vastly overrated, especially oil, and everything depends on timing. In fact, the era of oil is already slowly coming to an end because, if you look at technology, the cars they are making now are electrical, and now even generators and a lot of other things rely on battery and solar power. People no longer rely on generators to provide electricity. It appears that you enjoy potatoes, which is crucial because a man needs to eat. Food is also a requirement. In my opinion, food cannot be compared to oil in terms of importance since oil concerns the economy and food concerns the stomach. The examples of the green home you provided demonstrate how important food is and will continue to be.

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October 09, 2023, 07:16:16 PM
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Based on consideration, both are very important, but if you are going to choose which of them will increase the income of the country, I will go for agriculture because agriculture increases the income of the country faster than oil. If you have good mechanisms and strategies for agriculture, I bet you will prosper. In an instant, China, Brazil, the United States, India, and many of them produce agricultural products a lot and feed a large number of people in the country, but I am not terminating oil. I have more interest in agriculture than oil.
You first said that both are important? Then better if you can stick with it. If we can have both for a better improvement of our country then why only have one? It's just that oil is natural in some countries. They can get lots of supplies of it effortlessly and then others are rich in agriculture. I think it also depend on the nature of their country. Agriculture is best on some less developed areas and also if the weather are mostly raining. It can also work if there is a balance rain and sunny weather. Whichever we have, we will need to have a good strategy and mechanism so that we can improve our production more and that means more income for us.

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October 09, 2023, 07:41:03 PM
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From my paspective both Agriculture and oil is needed in our economy growth,
Agriculture has been supportive in our today economy, because in our daily live we make use of agriculture product. When it comes to the production of medicine agriculture is needed because drugs are produce from planting and chemical materials, the rearing of meat, fish, the planting of foods such as yam, cassava, everything is just related to agriculture.
When it comes to oil, oil is needed for the production of fuel, kerosene, and countries make billions through the help of trading oil, for example my country remain dependent on oil revenue.

A country can be blessed with more than one source of sustenance or external revenue but there should be a major that the country is known for. What OP discussed is a case study of Nigeria as a country. The country former has agriculture as it's major source of income not until oil was discovered and Agriculture outrightly abandoned. It was during the regime of former president Mohammadu Bihari that the idea of Agriculture was revamped.
Both oil and Agriculture is cool but I have a very high inclination to agriculture because of its ability to give food and as well as money.
But then every country needs to strike a balance on its sources of income in order not to be over dependent on one.

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October 09, 2023, 08:16:29 PM
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You pose a false dichotomy, especially since agriculture today is highly dependent on oil. Fields are tilled with power tillers or tractors, grass is cleared with weed cutters, many crops are mechanized, like modern olive harvesting which is picked by machine, many fertilizers are derived from oil, etc. Without oil, agriculture would not have even 20% of its current productivity.
So true,  crude oil has played very vital role in the agricultural sector. Some of the fertilisers used for plant are derived from from petrochemical substance. Crude oil has played very important role in the modern agricultural system because most of the machines and tractors are being operated by oil. Both agriculture and oil are very important to nation economy,  the both should be taking serious. Their are countries that only depend on crude oil and the economy is doing very well.
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You pose a false dichotomy, especially since agriculture today is highly dependent on oil. Fields are tilled with power tillers or tractors, grass is cleared with weed cutters, many crops are mechanized, like modern olive harvesting which is picked by machine, many fertilizers are derived from oil, etc. Without oil, agriculture would not have even 20% of its current productivity.
Totally having that benefit basing on how oil is really that significant with those common farm operations even on the slightest things like on which you have said that do talks about fertilizers.
Why would really be needing to have that kind of Versus thing which it doesnt really have no sense because they do really benefit or having that significant usage or really having that contribution.If it wasnt
really been that utilize then we would really be seeing that less production and having that less efficiency and this is why it doesnt make sense on thinking up this way.
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Oils are mostly be found or produced on dessert areas such as on middle east or with those common places on which vegetation cant be possible.This is why if they do able to take advantage of those producing oils
then it would really be that normal that they would really be utilizing it and would really be going to buy on what they do they need. Not really that much needing
that crucial thinking but rather common sense thing would really be enough on where they should really be focusing into.

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October 09, 2023, 11:25:51 PM
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You pose a false dichotomy, especially since agriculture today is highly dependent on oil. Fields are tilled with power tillers or tractors, grass is cleared with weed cutters, many crops are mechanized, like modern olive harvesting which is picked by machine, many fertilizers are derived from oil, etc. Without oil, agriculture would not have even 20% of its current productivity.
So true,  crude oil has played very vital role in the agricultural sector. Some of the fertilisers used for plant are derived from from petrochemical substance. Crude oil has played very important role in the modern agricultural system because most of the machines and tractors are being operated by oil. Both agriculture and oil are very important to nation economy,  the both should be taking serious. Their are countries that only depend on crude oil and the economy is doing very well.

As a result, agriculture and oil should not be confused, as they are both vital to human survival. Perhaps the title in this section is incorrect; perhaps the Op should have done "Benefits to be Gained from Agriculture and Oil." We will not judge one another's looks.

Even I cannot declare that agriculture or oil are superior because they are both essential and cannot exist without the other. Why can you convince us that agriculture and oil are unnecessary? Nobody can claim that one of them is insignificant. Instead, they are both beneficial. That's all I have to say.

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October 10, 2023, 12:53:30 AM
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Agriculture and oil are correlated because most agriculture right now uses machines like tractors to harvest their crops and even plant and prepare the land so they are using a lot of oil, so if the oil price increases the price also increases. As you can see right now because of the war in Russia and Ukraine the price of oil has increased which has also led to an increase in the price of all foods because after harvesting them they will need to be transported and it uses for oil. So both are needed for economic strength.
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October 10, 2023, 01:35:14 AM
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Based on consideration, both are very important, but if you are going to choose which of them will increase the income of the country, I will go for agriculture because agriculture increases the income of the country faster than oil. If you have good mechanisms and strategies for agriculture, I bet you will prosper. In an instant, China, Brazil, the United States, India, and many of them produce agricultural products a lot and feed a large number of people in the country, but I am not terminating oil. I have more interest in agriculture than oil.
You first said that both are important? Then better if you can stick with it. If we can have both for a better improvement of our country then why only have one? It's just that oil is natural in some countries. They can get lots of supplies of it effortlessly and then others are rich in agriculture. I think it also depend on the nature of their country. Agriculture is best on some less developed areas and also if the weather are mostly raining. It can also work if there is a balance rain and sunny weather. Whichever we have, we will need to have a good strategy and mechanism so that we can improve our production more and that means more income for us.
I think in my country the two things are of vital importants although before now the focus was more on agriculture but since the discovery of oil, the agriculture sector has suffered a little downturn in terms of production and value because the government seem to value the OIL money than agriculture forgetting that agriculture if well planned and invested can fetch huge some of cash just as the way the OIL sector is doing.

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October 10, 2023, 12:06:05 PM
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We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.
Before the boom of the oil market, prices per barrel were at their lowest...but because of external factors such as the Russia Ukraine war which can be considered as an artificial factor that caused prices to spike up and don't look like will be returning back to normal anytime soon because demand has pulled price up unless over supply happens to counter demand, then it can drop.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.
I think very few oil rich countries actually have both , and in cases of needing food ( agriculture output) trade makes it easy for any country to get what they want if they have something trade... So this basically shows each resource is equally important.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Oil might be the big money deal but both play a crucial role especially knowing that very few countries have both of these resources and rely on other countries to obtain via trade and to contribute to a countries economic standing and revenue collection.

 
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This is nothing to argue with or deliberate on as we know oil and Agriculture are both good and they are very essential to human life when it comes of development. The developed countries that mostly based in oil production are sometimes do not have good soil texture to cultivate agricultural products and, there are some plants that can never be found there but then those things can be imported to their country. Just as few people already said some country goes in collaboration with their neighboring countries that own a larger land mass for an agricultural production while they actually imports some of the product and they are living Larger and even more than those who has those agricultural resources.

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Agriculture and oil are correlated because most agriculture right now uses machines like tractors to harvest their crops and even plant and prepare the land so they are using a lot of oil, so if the oil price increases the price also increases.

I guess this is the most reasonable answer that makes sense. I saw a similar post on the first page, BTW. Yes, I want to say that I agree with you. Even though old helps run the machines of tractors and harvesters, those machines are part of agriculture as well. A country can increase its production by using the latest technology. In comparison, a country cannot increase the supply of oil. The oil is a natural product. You cannot force them to produce more and more oil according to the demand. So, whenever the demand increases, the oil price increases as well. It applies to almost everything. But a country can increase the production of food if they want.

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Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Agriculture, because as far as I know nobody eats oil and no other industry can replace agriculture in order to produce food. So agriculture is going to be an essential industry forever, while the oil one can be replaced by more advanced renewable technologies. It's true oil is still very profitable nowadays, but in some decades I believe the scenario is going to change completely, and those people boasting luxurious lives from oil income will have a hard time finding another source of income to maintain their lifestyles and the economies of their countries running.

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October 11, 2023, 06:41:18 AM
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Although both are important, oil is more crucial because without it, agricultural machinery cannot function. I am aware that in earlier times, people did not use agricultural machinery, but in the modern era, agriculture cannot function without machines, and those machines require oil. I believe that without oil, or let's just say fuel, transportation would not be quick and some people would die before things got to their places. I know that some people will support agriculture because we don't eat oil, but if you sit down and think about it very carefully, you will realise that oil is more important than agriculture these days.

Let's take Nigeria as an example. Since the beginning of this 2023, Nigeria has experienced food shortages, and many complain that food prices are excessive. The economy has changed, and what has changed is oil; where oil was once sold for 250, it is now being sold for 750 now per liter. and oil is the primary factor behind how much everything costs. Agriculture may be significant to some, but without oil, it would be powerless. I think those who support agriculture will recognise that a fuel source like oil or fuel does not depend on anything; people and agriculture are always dependent on it.

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October 11, 2023, 08:29:03 AM
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You pose a false dichotomy, especially since agriculture today is highly dependent on oil. Fields are tilled with power tillers or tractors, grass is cleared with weed cutters, many crops are mechanized, like modern olive harvesting which is picked by machine, many fertilizers are derived from oil, etc. Without oil, agriculture would not have even 20% of its current productivity.
Yes, we know that Middle Eastern countries have one of the largest sources of income from oil, and the developments that have occurred in Arab countries are fantastic. Meanwhile, there are still many less developed countries that depend on agriculture. Even though both are very important, the development of oil business seems to have a faster impact than Agriculture. And I really agree that nowadays almost everything is done with technology, and machines, even Agriculture, and it all requires oil.

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October 11, 2023, 09:44:33 AM
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Agriculture and oil are correlated because most agriculture right now uses machines like tractors to harvest their crops and even plant and prepare the land so they are using a lot of oil, so if the oil price increases the price also increases. As you can see right now because of the war in Russia and Ukraine the price of oil has increased which has also led to an increase in the price of all foods because after harvesting them they will need to be transported and it uses for oil. So both are needed for economic strength.

A tractor is too far distant, there is no area in the agricultural industry that does not require oil, both in post-farming and pre-farming operations. You need transportation to move anything in order to farm and sell, you need planters to help you sow the seeds, you need harvesters to harvest your crops, you need implements and machines to process these produce and products, and keep in mind that agriculture is more than just farming crops, vegetables, and plants; it also includes animal production and husbandry, which requires power to their house, the water system and grinders.

Whatever natural resources nature bestows upon you, if you optimise them and make them marketable and in demand, people will come for you; it is all about strategy, but because fossil oil is abundant, some governments have become too lazy to hunt for alternative sources of revenue for their country. Some countries lack both, they lack agriculture due to desert, infertile land, and dry land with no natural resources, but they are blessed with animals, they may have one of the most demanding animals in the world, which may be in abundance in their region, they can still earn a lot of money from it.

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Agriculture and oil are correlated because most agriculture right now uses machines like tractors to harvest their crops and even plant and prepare the land so they are using a lot of oil, so if the oil price increases the price also increases.

I guess this is the most reasonable answer that makes sense. I saw a similar post on the first page, BTW. Yes, I want to say that I agree with you. Even though old helps run the machines of tractors and harvesters, those machines are part of agriculture as well. A country can increase its production by using the latest technology. In comparison, a country cannot increase the supply of oil. The oil is a natural product. You cannot force them to produce more and more oil according to the demand. So, whenever the demand increases, the oil price increases as well. It applies to almost everything. But a country can increase the production of food if they want.
Oil is the main energy source in the world so that it is currently widely used for industrial, transportation, agricultural and household purposes. Oil is a non-renewable energy source so oil cannot always be a mainstay for the long-term economy. Currently, the agricultural sector is still greatly helped by oil because it can speed up processes in the agricultural cycle.

But agriculture remains an important sector in life and of course the agricultural sector can still be carried out using renewable energy even without using oil. Alternative energy sources such as bioenergy from several types of plants and other energy sources such as solar, wind and wave energy. However, energy production from alternative energy sources is still limited.

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October 11, 2023, 01:38:19 PM
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One is vastly overrated, especially oil, and everything depends on timing. The era of oil is already slowly coming to an end because, if you look at technology, the cars they are making now are electrical, and now even generators and a lot of other things rely on battery and solar power. People no longer rely on generators to provide electricity. It appears that you enjoy potatoes, which is crucial because a man needs to eat. Food is also a requirement. In my opinion, food cannot be compared to oil in terms of importance since oil concerns the economy and food concerns the stomach. The examples of the green home you provided demonstrate how important food is and will continue to be.

You're getting it wrong.
As individuals, you can decide not to use any oil products but you have to be very wealthy to achieve that, but you can't decide not to eat that means in this sense, Agriculture> Oil.
The same cannot be said about a country.

I am yet to see countries that became among the richest countries of the world and Agriculture is 70% of their GDP.
There are rich countries where oil contributes to about 70% of their GDP.

It would be wrong to compare both of them as a sector because a country needs both of them to function optimally.
The talk of "oil will soon go extinct" is overrated. I know that one day oil might no longer have that much value but it won't be in this lifetime or the next. It would take 100s of years for that to happen.
What's the percentage of the world right now that can live completely off oil products?

Food is important, but it doesn't generate nearly as much as oil.

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