Should Merit-Sources send merit based on their feelings or quality of the post?

[Sexylizzy2813]

Naturally, I can't send merit to the member I ignore, but as part of my duty here, I have ignored only a few extremely annoying people so far. If a message is of good quality, I send merit regardless of who wrote it. Just because I appreciate it doesn't mean that I agree with the content of that message. Merit has no such meaning of approval. Some people use it as like button but this isn't the right way to use merit.

I agree with you because the way some of us picture this whole  thing is like with the little issue you had with a user it makes you not to even do what you have to do at the right time, if you as a merit source and you use any form of grudges you have against any user it makes you unprofessional, here's a learning ground.
Using merit to like a quality post doesn't change how you feel about the user, you've done your part and move on, it will even show how mature you are because the user will be thinking you won't do what you have to do just because you guys have issues in the past, all these just boils down to maturity.

[EarnOnVictor]

Hey! I was thinking of something this night, this thing about merits and the merit-sources. If you are a merit-source, should you always give away merit to good posts even if you dislike the user that created the post?

ive wound up meriting posts from users in my ignore list. as sometimes ill see an ignored users post quoted by someone else and if its interesting ill go unhide it and merit it.

so yes people i dislike and even ignore get merited on occasion. but i wont go out of my way to find them.

This shows you have a kind heart, but many others won't.

And as for the quote you replied to, no matter how good and constructive you are, if you are not in line with the views and ideas of most people, they will never merit you. This is very bad since merit sources are not perfect beings, the posts they refused to merit might be the one carrying the rightest information and value.

[mirakal]

Hey! I was thinking of something this night, this thing about merits and the merit-sources. If you are a merit-source, should you always give away merit to good posts even if you dislike the user that created the post?

ive wound up meriting posts from users in my ignore list. as sometimes ill see an ignored users post quoted by someone else and if its interesting ill go unhide it and merit it.

so yes people i dislike and even ignore get merited on occasion. but i wont go out of my way to find them.

This shows you have a kind heart, but many others won't.

And as for the quote you replied to, no matter how good and constructive you are, if you are not in line with the views and ideas of most people, they will never merit you. This is very bad since merit sources are not perfect beings, the posts they refused to merit might be the one carrying the rightest information and value.

Probably that'st the reason why Theymos appointed a lot of merit sources.

But we have 109 merit source with approximately 33940 smerits given by theymos almost every 30 days.

Listen, if a couple of merit sources aren't feeling your post, there are still over 100 more out there. But, if most of them ain't vibing with your content, it might be time to reevaluate your forum game. You might want to take a breather, analyze your posts, and seek some advice on how to level up. This applies if you're hunting for merits.

However, if you're not quite at that merit-hunter level yet and you're not racking up merits, but also not getting your posts modded out, you're probably doing okay – at least in terms of not breaking the forum rules.

[DaNNy001]

Hey! I was thinking of something this night, this thing about merits and the merit-sources. If you are a merit-source, should you always give away merit to good posts even if you dislike the user that created the post?

What is the problem? I disagree with some members in the forum, but they perform a good role in other boards or in local boards. If a person spams or does something that I do not like, I will be put him on my ignore list, but there are more than 100 Merit source members and I sent merits to many other members who can sent 1/2 of it to that account.
If that account is on everyone's ignore list, the problem is with you.

I think your approach is also one way to see how the whole merit system works, because the system is design for the merit to be circle round so If someone is in your list and you deem him as a spammer and is actually doing well in other places then just like you said " there are 100's of merits source" out there that you actually give out merit to and in these merit source, they may be a few that actually sees the user to be trying and actually give the said person some amount of merit worth the quality of his posts.

But I just have one problem with this ignore list though, I just have a simple thought about some users here that used to be shit posters but with time actually worked on their selves and then turn out to improve in their posting style and now sound posted, wouldn't it be unfair to have them still in your ignore list without acknowledging their recent improvement? Although this your logic of other merit sources still covers this thought but it doesn't hurt to throw out there question still.

[blckhawk]

I can say most of merit sources are objective, while most of non merit sources are subjective.

I wouldn't say that with an utmost certainty if I were you, the way I see your post, you treat merit sources as if they're robots that they can only follow a prime directive and that they can't stray too far. If most of them were really objective, they would probably merit less amounts of people so I think that emotion or feeling on the candidate post can be a factor whether it's merit worthy or not, I mean there are funny or sarcastic retorts posted out there and I believe that they're outside of the category of being an objective post so if they find it funny but still relevant to the topic aren't they allowed to merit that too? Plus, it's really difficult to measure if someone is subjective or objective, our perspective on what is the perfect post to merit is different and following a strict rule just to be subjective kind of sucks the fun out of being interactive in the forum you know.

[tbct_mt2]

But I just have one problem with this ignore list though, I just have a simple thought about some users here that used to be shit posters but with time actually worked on their selves and then turn out to improve in their posting style and now sound posted, wouldn't it be unfair to have them still in your ignore list without acknowledging their recent improvement? Although this your logic of other merit sources still covers this thought but it doesn't hurt to throw out there question still.

Use your ignore if you don't want to see posts from a shit poster but his posts will still be visually seen by you if another member quotes his posts. If after a long time, you see his posts in quotes are good in quality, you can use Unignore.

In general, merit distribution is emotional from merit sources and non merit sources but this discussion is boring because I see many topics like this one. It will not lead to anywhere if theymos does not deploy Demerit.

With Demerit, discussion like this one will die but another one will appear. "Why my earned merit was down vote and demerit?" and that type of discussion will be endless again.

There is currently no such thing as a "demerit". I'm hoping that the positive merits alone will be fine. I could add demerits pretty easily later on if necessary, though.

Just want to ask OP. Do you want to see Demerit?

[Jatiluhung]

They Merit Source have been trusted to share sMerit. And regardless of what method they do it is a right or freedom for them. Well they are human and have feelings. But I think they are wise enough and will definitely still give Merit to quality posts even if those quality posts are made by users who previously had a dispute with them.

But there are some Merit Sources that don't seem to want to deal with users who are avid spammers. They will end up on Merit Source's ignore list.
And yes they are free to do so.

I like the various characters in each Merit Source, especially the Merit Source who are diligent in adventuring to various boards. There are even several Merit Sources that seem to share Merit on various Boards on a regular basis. But one thing I have to admit is that the quality of Merit Source's posts is hard to follow. They consistently maintain the quality of their posts and I think that's great.

[Etranger]

Merit has no such meaning of approval. Some people use it as like button but this isn't the right way to use merit.

I see the point in your words, however I cannot totally agree that merit has no such meaning of approval. I would rather say that approval is not the only meaning of merit. But it can be one of it.

How exactly can we claim what is right or wrong merit usage? Merit is not universal, it is subjective. Of course, when the system was implemented there were some explanations about ways it might be used. But I believe it was more like a sketch than the finished painting, where everything is understood and clear. I suppose everyone can have his own reasons for giving merits to someone. Other way not everyone would have the opportunity to send sMerits, but only Merit courses would be able to do it.

[Mpamaegbu]

Hey! I was thinking of something this night, this thing about merits and the merit-sources. If you are a merit-source, should you always give away merit to good posts even if you dislike the user that created the post?

I've had a few instances where some members disagreed with my posts but still went ahead to merit them. I've also seen that happen with other members too. There are merit sources who are dispassionate about how they distribute their merit. To these dispassionate merit sources, they would rather consider the content and context of comments rather than the posters. So, don't sweat about that. Even if those you think you've issues with don't merit your posts, there will be others who will merit them. Just make constructive posts and leave whatever happens next to providence.

[jokers10]

I've had a few instances where some members disagreed with my posts but still went ahead to merit them. I've also seen that happen with other members too. There are merit sources who are dispassionate about how they distribute their merit. To these dispassionate merit sources, they would rather consider the content and context of comments rather than the posters. So, don't sweat about that. Even if those you think you've issues with don't merit your posts, there will be others who will merit them. Just make constructive posts and leave whatever happens next to providence.

I'm not a merit source, but I also merit not only what I agree with. If I see some interesting line of thinking I can give a merit even if I see that it is based on a false grounds or is logically wrong. So I can make a post where I totally disagree with some post and despite that to merit a post which I disagree.

[PytagoraZ]

Hey! I was thinking of something this night, this thing about merits and the merit-sources. If you are a merit-source, should you always give away merit to good posts even if you dislike the user that created the post?

I've had a few instances where some members disagreed with my posts but still went ahead to merit them. I've also seen that happen with other members too. There are merit sources who are dispassionate about how they distribute their merit. To these dispassionate merit sources, they would rather consider the content and context of comments rather than the posters. So, don't sweat about that. Even if those you think you've issues with don't merit your posts, there will be others who will merit them. Just make constructive posts and leave whatever happens next to providence.

Yes, that's right, every writing definitely has value, even if we don't agree with the writing, but if the writing has good thought value then we can reward it. I once gave merit to an account that had negative trust. In my opinion, the merit system in this forum has many functions, it can be a reward for the quality of posts, performance appreciation, assistance in ranking, friendship, or giving merit to posts that are sometimes very funny.

But sometimes I'm sad when I see good quality post but I don't have any merit to give

[EarnOnVictor]

I do not believe that. When I learn something new from someone, my instinct is to do something good for them, If I have merits I will give them if they helped me.
this is a forum we can be disappointed by someone but cannot become an enemy of them.

How do you know? You've just signed up last month and never send any merit.

Naturally, I can't send merit to the member I ignore, but as part of my duty here, I have ignored only a few extremely annoying people so far. If a message is of good quality, I send merit regardless of who wrote it. Just because I appreciate it doesn't mean that I agree with the content of that message. Merit has no such meaning of approval. Some people use it as like button but this isn't the right way to use merit.

This is a typical way a merit source or sender should think and I appreciate you for that. We can't agree at all times, but if the person is constructive enough, I don't think any neutral person should deny the merit if it could be afforded. But unfortunately, a few would think like you and it's obvious everywhere in the forum. Even some would realize a post is constructive enough and even learn from it, but will still not give merit simply because such is not in their preference book.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Yes, that's right, every writing definitely has value, even if we don't agree with the writing, but if the writing has good thought value then we can reward it. I once gave merit to an account that had negative trust. In my opinion, the merit system in this forum has many functions, it can be a reward for the quality of posts, performance appreciation, assistance in ranking, friendship, or giving merit to posts that are sometimes very funny.

But sometimes I'm sad when I see good quality post but I don't have any merit to give

Some comments or topics have value, but not really all of them. Although I am not disputing the fact that there are usually some quality comments that do not receive merit, there are equally some low-value topics that I myself would not merit, despite the fact that I am not a merit source. There are so many off-topic comments, just as there are also many shitposts. Saying that all post has value is something I can't absolutely agree with.

There are times when I make just a simple general comment, and I might not really expect any merit on that particular comment, but it can just end up getting merit. But sometimes I put effort into some comments and don't get any merit on the post. So, in essence, merit sources and non-merit sources have their own different patterns of awarding merit. They can decide to just give 1 merit each to the first 10 people that comment on the first page, or they can decide to give more than 1 merit to the person they feel made the best comment, and then they can just give one each to others to encourage them. So, it's just different with how any member here gives out merit.

[Ndabagi01]

I'm not a merit source, but I also merit not only what I agree with. If I see some interesting line of thinking I can give a merit even if I see that it is based on a false grounds or is logically wrong. So I can make a post where I totally disagree with some post and despite that to merit a post which I disagree.

This is just about the mindset of the person sending the merits. If it happens to be on a false ground, I have seen some users merit the poster and then cite and correct the person. This feels more like encouraging the work put into sharing your point of view on a topic, as well as correcting someone on a false or incorrect statement they've made.

[BabyBandit]

Hey! I was thinking of something this night, this thing about merits and the merit-sources. If you are a merit-source, should you always give away merit to good posts even if you dislike the user that created the post?

ive wound up meriting posts from users in my ignore list. as sometimes ill see an ignored users post quoted by someone else and if its interesting ill go unhide it and merit it.

so yes people i dislike and even ignore get merited on occasion. but i wont go out of my way to find them.

This shows you have a kind heart, but many others won't.

And as for the quote you replied to, no matter how good and constructive you are, if you are not in line with the views and ideas of most people, they will never merit you. This is very bad since merit sources are not perfect beings, the posts they refused to merit might be the one carrying the rightest information and value.

Good point and on point.
Many people here are 100% controlled by their feelings, regarding merit or not merit, just look the drama-b reputation-board  
But regarding the Merit-Sources, I think they doing a great job. it's many hours to kill to be able to giving away merit, so respect to them for doing it, and to be honest during my short time here I haven't seen anyone abuse his "merit-power". So this works pretty good.

- Regards BabyB. 👼

[348Judah]

I'm not a merit source, but I also merit not only what I agree with. If I see some interesting line of thinking I can give a merit even if I see that it is based on a false grounds or is logically wrong. So I can make a post where I totally disagree with some post and despite that to merit a post which I disagree.

This is just about the mindset of the person sending the merits. If it happens to be on a false ground, I have seen some users merit the poster and then cite and correct the person. This feels more like encouraging the work put into sharing your point of view on a topic, as well as correcting someone on a false or incorrect statement they've made.

Maybe there's a need to remind us all that giving a merit should be base on our personal conviction that such post is deserving for one, we can choose to give or not, we are giving only because we all have also earned some smerits, what if we see a post that deserves being merited and we have no merit to give, our own reply as well goes along with what we see from a post, if you can make this judgement from your own self.

It's your personal right to do so while another person may not see the same thing you noticed, just as the same way you will also discover a post being merited which you never expected, but anyone that knows how hard it is to earn merits will know how to judiciously use his smerits without anyone telling him what or how to do it.

[Dimitri94]

what do you think aboiut merit-sources when they handle out merit? They  should give merit to all good posts right, even if a user they dislike made a very good post. Or is it okay to just skip to give that user merit even that he made a very good post?

I think just like a general user can give merit to whoever they want based on their post quality, a merit source can do the same. But the difference here is that a merit source is definitely one of the knowledgeable people in the forum. They use their merit as opposed to posts that are generally liked. Here they are completely independent. Moreover, naturally, each of us may have our own preferences. One's post quality may not be good for one merit source but it may not be the same for another. So it will depend on that person if he wants to give merit to someone and if he doesn't he can't. I think there is nothing to say about it.

[SamReomo]

I do not believe that. When I learn something new from someone, my instinct is to do something good for them, If I have merits I will give them if they helped me.
this is a forum we can be disappointed by someone but cannot become an enemy of them.

How do you know? You've just signed up last month and never send any merit.

Naturally, I can't send merit to the member I ignore, but as part of my duty here, I have ignored only a few extremely annoying people so far. If a message is of good quality, I send merit regardless of who wrote it. Just because I appreciate it doesn't mean that I agree with the content of that message. Merit has no such meaning of approval. Some people use it as like button but this isn't the right way to use merit.

Well, that's a quite good answer because a merit source should merit the posts that deserve to get merits and he/she should not care about the members who made those posts. Sometimes it's always good to merit the posts of the members who are contributing a lot to the forum because that way they get encouraged and they try their best to contribute even more good stuff to the forum.

A merit source should try his/her best to add only a few annoying members in his/her ignore list because merit distribution starts from the merit sources and if they continue to add as many people in their ignore list as they like then that would not be a good thing for the ones who may deserve to get some merits.

I personally don't add anyone into my ignore list because I believe that if we can avoid someone then we don't really need to add that person into the ignore list, however some people really don't want to see the posts of some particular users and that's the reason they add those users into their ignore list. It's a good practice to send merit to the posts that deserve the merits even if you don't agree with the content because if those posts deserve to get merits then it's good to send those some merits.

[Franctoshi]

Hey! I was thinking of something this night, this thing about merits and the merit-sources. If you are a merit-source, should you always give away merit to good posts even if you dislike the user that created the post?
Or are you allowed to be controlled by your feelings and only give away merit to people you like or don't know?

It's a different a user can give merit to whoever he wants, because it's his/hers own merit and they can do whatever they want with it. But a merit-source how should he act? Without feelings or with feelings?

But back to my question, what do you think aboiut merit-sources when they handle out merit? They  should give merit to all good posts right, even if a user they dislike made a very good post. Or is it okay to just skip to give that user merit even that he made a very good post?

Merit source members giving out its merits shouldn't be an emotional thing.

Even though the merit source members are humans and may have members whom they like,  don't you think that the user is a quality poster in the first place? that got the attention of a merit source member to like the member? Because when it comes to this platform, the majority of us didn't know each other in the first place before we came here, therefore what could have gotten the attention of the merit source members to merit a member must have been how good the user is or most likely how quality the member's post is.


Take you for instance, when I joined this forum I only knew the person who introduced me to the platform, but today I have a lot of people who have merited me and people I have also merited and they don't know me and neither do I know them to talk of meriting my account based on feelings,  so Op, this tells that those users that you see get merit from the merit source members Is basically because they are quality poster.

[BabyBandit]

Well, that's a quite good answer because a merit source should merit the posts that deserve to get merits and he/she should not care about the members who made those posts. Sometimes it's always good to merit the posts of the members who are contributing a lot to the forum because that way they get encouraged and they try their best to contribute even more good stuff to the forum.

A merit source should try his/her best to add only a few annoying members in his/her ignore list because merit distribution starts from the merit sources and if they continue to add as many people in their ignore list as they like then that would not be a good thing for the ones who may deserve to get some merits.

I personally don't add anyone into my ignore list because I believe that if we can avoid someone then we don't really need to add that person into the ignore list, however some people really don't want to see the posts of some particular users and that's the reason they add those users into their ignore list. It's a good practice to send merit to the posts that deserve the merits even if you don't agree with the content because if those posts deserve to get merits then it's good to send those some merits.

Good thinking and good said.
You seems to have thick skin, more should think like you.

Merit source members giving out its merits shouldn't be an emotional thing.

Even though the merit source members are humans and may have members whom they like,  don't you think that the user is a quality poster in the first place? that got the attention of a merit source member to like the member? Because when it comes to this platform, the majority of us didn't know each other in the first place before we came here, therefore what could have gotten the attention of the merit source members to merit a member must have been how good the user is or most likely how quality the member's post is.  

Yep it should not.
I don't know really. I saw a very good post about this... But I think all Merit-Sources do a good job here, the most of the people that get merit also should have merit so I don't have anything to complain about.
I can only say thank you to the merit-sources that giving away their free time for this forum, because to be a merit-source I can imagine you need to spend hours of reading post, something I never would do.
So thank you merit-sources! 

I think just like a general user can give merit to whoever they want based on their post quality

I totally agree with you here, they should and can and give sMerits to whoever they fell deserve it and I think they all doing a great job.