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December 25, 2023, 03:25:41 PM
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This has been diverted to the topic already. It's not the content of the topic since "financing a gambler?" means like a professional work, like a gambler has the skills but doesn't have the capital in gambling, and with that, he'll be looking for financers and they'll have an agreemnet on how they'll split up the profit in case the gambler wins, but if it goes otherwise, the gambler will have not liability, or whatsoever.
Actually, not really because if we meet a friend who asks us to finance his gambling and we can advise him to find a job so he can have money to finance his gambling. After having money from his job, he does not ask other people to finance his gambling and he is free to use his salary to gamble and to meet his living needs.

It would be better for him because he would not face the risk of returning his money to the money lender. And he also won't have problems with other people and can gamble using his own money. Hopefully, you can understand what it means.

The point is someone needs help in terms of financing his gambling activities, things that have arrangements between the person either a friend
or a relative who's asking for assistance, though still not a good idea even how good the gambler is.

Still at risk since the investment or the loan money will be used for gambling and there's no assurance that you can always win even how good
you are in terms of controlling yourself or managing your emotions and bankroll.

The outcome still unpredictable and if things didn't go well the money will disappear.

And if you are one of the people who are willing to finance it then I think you are a pretty careless person even though there are agreements and some promises that can be trusted especially in terms of refunds promised by the people you finance if you lose in the end. But on the other hand, if you understand all the possible risks or are able to account for everything at the end, then it's fine to experiment.

That's the thing, because there is absolutely no guarantee or certainty about the final outcome of winning and losing, the other thing is that I hope that anyone should know that the percentage of winning is much smaller than the possibility of much greater risk. You can see some examples of other people who have lost huge amounts of money due to being involved in gambling too often, and that's the reason why there are people who enter the addiction phase because they are too frequent and put too much hope in gambling. So maybe I will allow anyone to do that if it's just for experimenting and there is no seriousness to do it in the long run, because the risk is too great compared to the opportunity to earn.

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December 26, 2023, 01:09:31 AM
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We always have to base ourselves on many steps before playing, first of All we have to be Clear that when we are in the presence of slots the best thing is that we have to have control over what we do, there is no other option, yes or there is Control there is no nothing nice, also if we are a person who analyzes the RTP it is a valid option so that we can do anything better, with a piece of information like this we know if we are more or less restricted when it comes to Making a significant increase in the bet, although for me a bet is a bet, and without taking any type of requirement to analyze the RTP, for me it is practically the most in risk and everything then things are like this when I analyze them, taking into account that there are some players who analyze all kinds of parameters to to be able to establish a gaming strategy immediately, personally I am not like that, what I do is relax and play the slots without looking to win, just having a good time.

When someone talks About the Financing of a Player it is because for me it must be a good player but limited in resources, specifically money, that is why they talk about being a player who can receive a type of help such as financing so that he can play and obviously have good results, in fact the person who makes a type of treatment like that has to have results, because if he loses everything, well, I imagine that's not the idea Either , so no Matter how much money the person who wants to Finance has, he knows what he should do. It's being careful when playing with other people's money, personally, I wouldn't do it, I don't like that , because it's like they Put a lot of bags of cement on my back, playing with other people's money and waiting for things to turn out. well it's something that doesn't suit me much , maybe in trading yes , but in the game where everything has to be given to luck and chance , well no , that's not Very good for me.


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December 26, 2023, 03:58:40 AM
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The point is someone needs help in terms of financing his gambling activities, things that have arrangements between the person either a friend
or a relative who's asking for assistance, though still not a good idea even how good the gambler is.

Still at risk since the investment or the loan money will be used for gambling and there's no assurance that you can always win even how good
you are in terms of controlling yourself or managing your emotions and bankroll.

The outcome still unpredictable and if things didn't go well the money will disappear.
If there is an agreement between him and his friend or sibling, it will be a solution on how he should pay off his debt because he has asked his friend or sibling to finance his gambling. But this must also be researched to what extent he can delay paying his money if he loses when gambling because when gambling, a person can lose a lot of money.

But it is still risky because there is no guarantee that someone can win at gambling even if they feel they are good at gambling. However, if he can win, he can return the money to the people who have financed his gambling activities to provide trust between them. But people who are given the opportunity to finance their gambling activities must understand that there is no guarantee that someone can win from gambling.

Maybe it is better if someone does not finance other people's gambling activities, especially if it is not a close friend and even if it is a close friend, it is better if he can refuse it so that no problems arise between them. Often, friendships will be disrupted just because of a small amount of money. So we have to be careful when lending money to other people.

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December 26, 2023, 12:30:41 PM
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We always have to base ourselves on many steps before playing, first of All we have to be Clear that when we are in the presence of slots the best thing is that we have to have control over what we do, there is no other option, yes or there is Control there is no nothing nice, also if we are a person who analyzes the RTP it is a valid option so that we can do anything better, with a piece of information like this we know if we are more or less restricted when it comes to Making a significant increase in the bet, although for me a bet is a bet, and without taking any type of requirement to analyze the RTP, for me it is practically the most in risk and everything then things are like this when I analyze them, taking into account that there are some players who analyze all kinds of parameters to to be able to establish a gaming strategy immediately, personally I am not like that, what I do is relax and play the slots without looking to win, just having a good time.

When someone talks About the Financing of a Player it is because for me it must be a good player but limited in resources, specifically money, that is why they talk about being a player who can receive a type of help such as financing so that he can play and obviously have good results, in fact the person who makes a type of treatment like that has to have results, because if he loses everything, well, I imagine that's not the idea Either , so no Matter how much money the person who wants to Finance has, he knows what he should do. It's being careful when playing with other people's money, personally, I wouldn't do it, I don't like that , because it's like they Put a lot of bags of cement on my back, playing with other people's money and waiting for things to turn out. well it's something that doesn't suit me much , maybe in trading yes , but in the game where everything has to be given to luck and chance , well no , that's not Very good for me.


It is clear that with gambling you must have strong self-control so that reckless actions do not occur, because reckless actions occur because of a lack of good self-control and a lack of strong self-control,  which can make a person addicted to gambling excessively Many people gamble on slots by relying on the RTP percentage, they gamble on slots by looking at the RTP percentage where they will see the game percentage to start gambling because they are sure of that, but I myself am not sure about that, and I gamble for fun like you,  so I don't really care about the RTP on each site. but there are also people who see and do the patterns and tricks provided by the site to get big wins and they also believe in certain hours which are good hours to place bets on slot gambling. It's true that everyone's thoughts are different and this is normal, but on the other hand, those who have enough money usually give a little money so they can go back to gambling even though this shouldn't be done. Even though this makes them happy, maybe they will come back asking for money to gamble again.

This is certainly not a good thing nor is it a solution for those who want to make a profit, because the big percentage of slot gambling games is defeat not victory, so that's why I myself if I have a lot of money will never give money to gamblers or finance gamblers, because it's the same as releasing cows in a wide pasture, they will be happy but don't remember us who gave them capital. Many people run out of money and take out loans to gamble again, unfortunately this happens a lot, and even though for example no one actually finances gamblers but those who are already addicted to gambling can take out loans to gamble again. people who are already addicted to gambling have a mindset to make money in various ways even though it is risky but they will still do it because the urge from addiction is difficult to resist and eliminate.

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December 26, 2023, 01:43:02 PM
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How will you feel if someone you know or just a friend of a friend walk up to you and ask you to finance them in gambling in exchange for a portion of their winnings? Does this even make any sense?

Because the only place this makes a bit sense is the skills base niche like forex trading or crypto trading, how can gambling/gambler be financed?

Have you heard of such before? What is the end result if you have?

Why would you trust anyone to gamble better than you can when it's all about luck?

Is anyone doing this on here?

Someone explained this to me, and I believe he is already a victim because to me it doesn't make sense, I believe he is been used because he lacks knowledge about gambling, do you think my judgment is wrong?



OP, I don't think that's ideal to finance anyone or group of person in gambling, gambling is a risk stuff, as a reasonable person, if people work up to you for business collaboration, first of all you will have to study the profit nature of such business, and also the risk involved, you can't just release money just like that unless you decided to dash them the money, op, I will speak for myself, your judgment is right, this guy that explained this incident to you is a victim, but in the aspect of some gambling better than you, I strongly have the feeling that gambling is a luck game but individuals can master some games and become successful in those game that's all I know.


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December 26, 2023, 01:57:04 PM
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The point is someone needs help in terms of financing his gambling activities, things that have arrangements between the person either a friend
or a relative who's asking for assistance, though still not a good idea even how good the gambler is.

Still at risk since the investment or the loan money will be used for gambling and there's no assurance that you can always win even how good
you are in terms of controlling yourself or managing your emotions and bankroll.

The outcome still unpredictable and if things didn't go well the money will disappear.
If there is an agreement between him and his friend or sibling, it will be a solution on how he should pay off his debt because he has asked his friend or sibling to finance his gambling. But this must also be researched to what extent he can delay paying his money if he loses when gambling because when gambling, a person can lose a lot of money.

But it is still risky because there is no guarantee that someone can win at gambling even if they feel they are good at gambling. However, if he can win, he can return the money to the people who have financed his gambling activities to provide trust between them. But people who are given the opportunity to finance their gambling activities must understand that there is no guarantee that someone can win from gambling.

To finance gambling it is true that the first thing that must be considered and emphasized is the strong agreement of the agreement that has been made between the two parties, if indeed the agreement is that he will pay the money to you if in the end he loses then obviously as you said that we must be able to measure the extent to which he will be able to keep his promise, if indeed you do not really believe in the promises he said before and even make you doubt then obviously in my opinion it is better not to finance it, because it could only cause problems in the end. You might find it difficult to collect the debt because he might be one of those irresponsible people, even if he is one of your relatives.

Overall I think it's a ridiculous agreement between the two parties, as you said there is basically nothing promising in the outcome of gambling, it's hard to get certainty and maybe just a few indications that sometimes it's also difficult to materialize or often fail to achieve real victory. There is nothing great in gambling especially if you play on the type of gambling pure luck, so in my opinion you better think from the beginning, understand first thoroughly about the risks of gambling so that you don't regret it.

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December 27, 2023, 04:15:41 AM
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To finance gambling it is true that the first thing that must be considered and emphasized is the strong agreement of the agreement that has been made between the two parties, if indeed the agreement is that he will pay the money to you if in the end he loses then obviously as you said that we must be able to measure the extent to which he will be able to keep his promise, if indeed you do not really believe in the promises he said before and even make you doubt then obviously in my opinion it is better not to finance it, because it could only cause problems in the end. You might find it difficult to collect the debt because he might be one of those irresponsible people, even if he is one of your relatives.

Overall I think it's a ridiculous agreement between the two parties, as you said there is basically nothing promising in the outcome of gambling, it's hard to get certainty and maybe just a few indications that sometimes it's also difficult to materialize or often fail to achieve real victory. There is nothing great in gambling especially if you play on the type of gambling pure luck, so in my opinion you better think from the beginning, understand first thoroughly about the risks of gambling so that you don't regret it.
If he is our friend, we can see what his character is like as long as we are friends with him. From that character, we can get more or less an idea that can explain to us what the person is like. Often, the friends we consider friends are not what we imagined when it comes to money, and I'm sure many of us have experienced this, too. And if he asks to pay for his gambling, we should really consider it well and there is no need to feel bad for him because the money we have is not just for gambling or just for fun.

Maybe making an agreement or agreement between us and him will be the solution. But if it is related to gambling, we should be very careful because usually, the money they ask for is not a small amount of money. Rarely do people use small amounts of money to gamble so they want to be financed in medium or even large amounts. If we really agree to the deal, we also have to think about what if he loses because that means he won't be able to pay the debt. We have to think about how long he can pay his debts.

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December 27, 2023, 11:22:42 AM
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To finance gambling it is true that the first thing that must be considered and emphasized is the strong agreement of the agreement that has been made between the two parties, if indeed the agreement is that he will pay the money to you if in the end he loses then obviously as you said that we must be able to measure the extent to which he will be able to keep his promise, if indeed you do not really believe in the promises he said before and even make you doubt then obviously in my opinion it is better not to finance it, because it could only cause problems in the end. You might find it difficult to collect the debt because he might be one of those irresponsible people, even if he is one of your relatives.

Overall I think it's a ridiculous agreement between the two parties, as you said there is basically nothing promising in the outcome of gambling, it's hard to get certainty and maybe just a few indications that sometimes it's also difficult to materialize or often fail to achieve real victory. There is nothing great in gambling especially if you play on the type of gambling pure luck, so in my opinion you better think from the beginning, understand first thoroughly about the risks of gambling so that you don't regret it.
If he is our friend, we can see what his character is like as long as we are friends with him. From that character, we can get more or less an idea that can explain to us what the person is like. Often, the friends we consider friends are not what we imagined when it comes to money, and I'm sure many of us have experienced this, too. And if he asks to pay for his gambling, we should really consider it well and there is no need to feel bad for him because the money we have is not just for gambling or just for fun.

Maybe making an agreement or agreement between us and him will be the solution. But if it is related to gambling, we should be very careful because usually, the money they ask for is not a small amount of money. Rarely do people use small amounts of money to gamble so they want to be financed in medium or even large amounts. If we really agree to the deal, we also have to think about what if he loses because that means he won't be able to pay the debt. We have to think about how long he can pay his debts.

There is also a point that we can indeed do a little research if indeed the person who wants to finance is one of our friends, as you said about we can see from the nature and behavior of our friends as long as we are friends and also during that time there will definitely be some situations where he has borrowed your money and whether he can pay on time or not before, so with that it is true that the way you said is quite reasonable and it can be taken into consideration before finally agreeing to finance his gambling.

I think not only cautious but if they have doubts in the agreement with their friend then I think it's better to avoid this deal, after all gambling is very dangerous because the randomness of the final result is always the main difficulty to get a win, in the matter of the amount of money I think this can be negotiated between the two parties, if indeed the one who wants to provide capital has doubts then obviously he will not agree to the large amount requested by his friend to gamble. However, it is better to put only the amount that we can be responsible for, whether you are gambling yourself or paying for someone else, it can be useful to minimize regret at the end of the session if you lose.

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December 27, 2023, 11:56:26 PM
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In one of my things and my thoughts, I have always started to think about a scene like this, where one is very nice and someone sees the way to play and follows him, but of course that is something that I see as very fantastic, no. I think there is someone like that, but as has been said, it could be that there are some people who always like to share this because they like others to spend their money, you have to be a very millionaire person to do it, so in this order of things things can be quite strong, I might think that when it comes to things like that I always like to emphasize the fact that it can make a difference by taking considerations like:

1.-Friends who have a lot of money, I say friends, because they are the ones you already know and they know who you are, and the ones you can do and achieve.

2.- Be very lucky, find a stranger who would like to sponsor you.

Where I see that things are very possible is when it comes to gamers but not in the casino but in other types of games that in reality there is a large community, for Example on the PS5 and it is played online, where they know each Other and have a Great love for games because they are Capable of doing incredible things with this, however when I say about gamers it is because they must be very nice, in fact this makes me remember a movie that I recently saw, which is about this What a stupid thing to say, it's called: "Gran Turismo" and it's based on real events, and in the game of Gran Tourism, which I think we've all played at some point in our lives, I played it, but I didn't know that the game had technical aspects so good as to make it generate so much importance in reality, and a great simulation, for this reason it is said that in this way if it is easy to find a Sponsor , but the person has to be very good , in The casinos have to be someone who always has a lot of luck , which I find Difficult.




First, gaming, especially PS5 communities, is a culture and lifestyle. Gamers, especially the "very good" ones, are artists and digital experience architects. Now, about sponsorships: it's a symbiotic relationship. Sponsors want talent, and what better place than a place with untapped potential? Let's not forget casinos - high stakes, great payouts. Luck is important, but talent, strategy, and an almost intuitive understanding of the game are too. Casinos are dream theaters for the brave. Finding sponsors in these arenas? Being so good they can't ignore you is more important than luck. Being unique amid a sea of mediocrity. Whether it's digital gaming or digital casino, investors are drawn to the daring, skillful, and dreamers

Well, if you're right, as I've said on other Occasions , or I know if you've seen the "Gran Turismo" movie that was actually based on a story of real events, the game is about cars because I didn't know what It was so perfect and with so much Detail , for me things when they try to make them better this game is one of those, when I was about 14-15 years old I remember that I always played, just as I played Dragon Ball and my favorite was FIFA , I Remember that I Wanted to beat the best at that moment, now with the huge community of PS5 things are very different, you can even Monetize , of course, the Graphics are now something that makes them more and more real , especially Everything in football you can see how real it can be , and I think they will continue to release more about these Games , which were actually a great experience.

Personally, when it comes to these games , I have Always been a big fan , and Although I don't have a PSC5 because it is very expensive, I have seen some videos in 4k and Wow, they are really another world, this is to enjoy it as it should be , Of course , these are things that should always be seen, but in this regard with casino games things can be very Differen t, if a person like that stands next to someone who always wins or Something like that, I don't think that a person would go accept that it is or that it has a sponsor, because you simply earn what you want whenever you want, and I think that this is a very remote possibility because it cannot be ruled out that it could be something viable for some type of millionaire who is anywhere in the world , this is something that I see as very difficult, generally these are people who do not need to do Anything like that so they can make profits , that's why when I am in a casino and I see someone who has a lot of money and they are still pure See , it is known that they are people with a lot of money , that Whether they win or not , it doesn't Matter , they just Play and that's it , everything doesn't matter to them.

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December 28, 2023, 05:12:54 AM
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There is also a point that we can indeed do a little research if indeed the person who wants to finance is one of our friends, as you said about we can see from the nature and behavior of our friends as long as we are friends and also during that time there will definitely be some situations where he has borrowed your money and whether he can pay on time or not before, so with that it is true that the way you said is quite reasonable and it can be taken into consideration before finally agreeing to finance his gambling.

I think not only cautious but if they have doubts in the agreement with their friend then I think it's better to avoid this deal, after all gambling is very dangerous because the randomness of the final result is always the main difficulty to get a win, in the matter of the amount of money I think this can be negotiated between the two parties, if indeed the one who wants to provide capital has doubts then obviously he will not agree to the large amount requested by his friend to gamble. However, it is better to put only the amount that we can be responsible for, whether you are gambling yourself or paying for someone else, it can be useful to minimize regret at the end of the session if you lose.
But to be honest, it could cause problems for us if the money would be used to finance his gambling. We might be in an unpleasant situation, especially if he loses and spends all his money. Our relationship with him may not be good because of debts that have not been paid by him. Even if he can pay on time, he will probably repeat his desire to ask us to finance his gambling another day because he sees that he can borrow money from us. And it would be like he was using us to finance his gambling and we would also probably feel bad if he didn't because he is one of our friends.

This money problem can cause a rift between us because money problems can change a person's character quickly without them realizing it. We may be able to accept it but the people around us may not be able to accept it because I had an experience where there was a friend who borrowed money and I wanted to lend it to him because I felt he really needed it, but my wife didn't agree if I gave it the amount of money he requested. My wife said that I could lend him half of the total money he asked for because we also needed the money.

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December 28, 2023, 06:21:40 AM
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I strongly have the feeling that gambling is a luck game but individuals can master some games and become successful in those game that's all I know.

If you are planning to finance a gambler, you need to change your perception on gambling. Should be gambling can be won with skills, and not luck alone. Maybe there are times that we consider luck, but since it's a business, you know, financing thing is quite serious because you trust a guy to gamble for you or using your money, so you must be convince that his skills will bring your profit.

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December 28, 2023, 06:35:44 AM
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In one of my things and my thoughts, I have always started to think about a scene like this, where one is very nice and someone sees the way to play and follows him, but of course that is something that I see as very fantastic, no. I think there is someone like that, but as has been said, it could be that there are some people who always like to share this because they like others to spend their money, you have to be a very millionaire person to do it, so in this order of things things can be quite strong, I might think that when it comes to things like that I always like to emphasize the fact that it can make a difference by taking considerations like:

1.-Friends who have a lot of money, I say friends, because they are the ones you already know and they know who you are, and the ones you can do and achieve.

2.- Be very lucky, find a stranger who would like to sponsor you.

Where I see that things are very possible is when it comes to gamers but not in the casino but in other types of games that in reality there is a large community, for Example on the PS5 and it is played online, where they know each Other and have a Great love for games because they are Capable of doing incredible things with this, however when I say about gamers it is because they must be very nice, in fact this makes me remember a movie that I recently saw, which is about this What a stupid thing to say, it's called: "Gran Turismo" and it's based on real events, and in the game of Gran Tourism, which I think we've all played at some point in our lives, I played it, but I didn't know that the game had technical aspects so good as to make it generate so much importance in reality, and a great simulation, for this reason it is said that in this way if it is easy to find a Sponsor , but the person has to be very good , in The casinos have to be someone who always has a lot of luck , which I find Difficult.





In the gambling industry... it is very difficult to prove that you are a good gambler. Yes, you get proffesional Poker players with exceptional skills and you get very good Sport gamblers, but most other games are not based on your skills, but more on luck.

You also get a lot of gambling addicts that will market themselves as proffesionals, but they simply try to scam people to feed their addiction.

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December 28, 2023, 09:31:52 AM
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You are absolutely right and it is very important to get players who are very good at playing poker because they have a good chance of being the best in their field. I could say that when it comes to this type of player, things tend to be different, but it is not the same. take out a player or a group of players who consider themselves very good at poker than take out players who are good or have strategies for the slots, because basically slots are about being lucky and nothing more than that, so these types of things can be affected by some type of major effects, such as the amount of money you have to play in the slots than to play in poker, it is certain that there is or can be made a lot of money with the poker players than with the players. of slots, unless you have a lot of luck and win a fairly respectable amount in the slots, which can happen in a period of 1 minute , and the player can do the day, the year, everything that his sponsor wants Obtain.

But it is based entirely on the luck you have, which is not Reliable for me, at least I would look for a way to have more security in a game than in others that are only luck , because only what is safe then, is You can get lucky once, one day , but it may be that there are no more and that is what can be presented, in the Slots things are like that and there is no need to put any kind of cover on things because when there is no Doing things like this there are many factors that influence being able to obtain more things, more Benefits , if I were a sponsor , to Finance a player it would be in poker, because the power must be enough to become great, in this order of ideas I could say that things like this are safer, not 100% but if the probability reaches more than 80% it is already something safer, it is like trading with very Experienced Traders.

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December 28, 2023, 09:55:49 AM
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There is also a point that we can indeed do a little research if indeed the person who wants to finance is one of our friends, as you said about we can see from the nature and behavior of our friends as long as we are friends and also during that time there will definitely be some situations where he has borrowed your money and whether he can pay on time or not before, so with that it is true that the way you said is quite reasonable and it can be taken into consideration before finally agreeing to finance his gambling.

I think not only cautious but if they have doubts in the agreement with their friend then I think it's better to avoid this deal, after all gambling is very dangerous because the randomness of the final result is always the main difficulty to get a win, in the matter of the amount of money I think this can be negotiated between the two parties, if indeed the one who wants to provide capital has doubts then obviously he will not agree to the large amount requested by his friend to gamble. However, it is better to put only the amount that we can be responsible for, whether you are gambling yourself or paying for someone else, it can be useful to minimize regret at the end of the session if you lose.
But to be honest, it could cause problems for us if the money would be used to finance his gambling. We might be in an unpleasant situation, especially if he loses and spends all his money. Our relationship with him may not be good because of debts that have not been paid by him. Even if he can pay on time, he will probably repeat his desire to ask us to finance his gambling another day because he sees that he can borrow money from us. And it would be like he was using us to finance his gambling and we would also probably feel bad if he didn't because he is one of our friends.

This money problem can cause a rift between us because money problems can change a person's character quickly without them realizing it. We may be able to accept it but the people around us may not be able to accept it because I had an experience where there was a friend who borrowed money and I wanted to lend it to him because I felt he really needed it, but my wife didn't agree if I gave it the amount of money he requested. My wife said that I could lend him half of the total money he asked for because we also needed the money.

The research on the person may be good, due to his past wins, but it doesn't determine the results of the casino results. Rather he may face a losing spree that he won't be able to control after spending another person's money in gambling. Which indeed would be a huge problem in the relationship of such friends. The best thing to do is to allow the financier to decide if wants to do this, and also forget about the outcome. He only has a share when there is a win. Or he can gamble by himself. Anything else can lead to severe trouble and gambling is not the right niche to try such a thing. It's too unpredictable. Even the best lose out. Doing such a thing affects the responsibility of the owner of that money. He's no longer responsible for what happens with his money. Hence he won't be able to take the responsibility on behalf of someone else. It's crucial to know that whatever we do in gambling is a result of our choice. So, if they reached an agreement, we have no reason to alter it, but what matters is who among them would be most affected or sad.

The gambler takes the blame and may be asked to refund the money. Results do change when people are not comfortable with the outcome of their money investment. The financier may have been filled with lots of fantasies that he'd win lots of money and receive instances of people who did such things and won money. When the decision of the people around to judge such a dispute, erupts from funding a gambler. They'll blame the financier for giving a gambler his money to gamble. And this one is quite different from lending out money to a gambler. It's more like a deal. The financier does not have strong authority over the money like a lender would in the same situation. Following such cases, it's better to lend money than to finance a gambler, hoping on the profits. What if the profits don't show up? But on the side of the money lender or loan shark he has nothing to bother about if the person wins or not. His business is for the gambler to pay back once the signed duration is met.

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December 28, 2023, 12:02:27 PM
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There is also a point that we can indeed do a little research if indeed the person who wants to finance is one of our friends, as you said about we can see from the nature and behavior of our friends as long as we are friends and also during that time there will definitely be some situations where he has borrowed your money and whether he can pay on time or not before, so with that it is true that the way you said is quite reasonable and it can be taken into consideration before finally agreeing to finance his gambling.

I think not only cautious but if they have doubts in the agreement with their friend then I think it's better to avoid this deal, after all gambling is very dangerous because the randomness of the final result is always the main difficulty to get a win, in the matter of the amount of money I think this can be negotiated between the two parties, if indeed the one who wants to provide capital has doubts then obviously he will not agree to the large amount requested by his friend to gamble. However, it is better to put only the amount that we can be responsible for, whether you are gambling yourself or paying for someone else, it can be useful to minimize regret at the end of the session if you lose.
But to be honest, it could cause problems for us if the money would be used to finance his gambling. We might be in an unpleasant situation, especially if he loses and spends all his money. Our relationship with him may not be good because of debts that have not been paid by him. Even if he can pay on time, he will probably repeat his desire to ask us to finance his gambling another day because he sees that he can borrow money from us. And it would be like he was using us to finance his gambling and we would also probably feel bad if he didn't because he is one of our friends.

This money problem can cause a rift between us because money problems can change a person's character quickly without them realizing it. We may be able to accept it but the people around us may not be able to accept it because I had an experience where there was a friend who borrowed money and I wanted to lend it to him because I felt he really needed it, but my wife didn't agree if I gave it the amount of money he requested. My wife said that I could lend him half of the total money he asked for because we also needed the money.

Now this is what needs to be considered, the idea of financing friends to engage in gambling even though they already have an agreement or agreement really can't rule out the possibility that in the end I think what you said is true that such a situation will cause problems and will obviously make their friendship relationship will be disrupted or even damaged just because of an idea like this. No matter what the situation is even if they do pay on time but I think it's still not a good situation especially for the person who financed it, like you said they will most likely come back again to ask for some funds to do another idea like that and maybe it will continue to happen indefinitely.

Money really has a very sensitive nature and with money then you will be able to know how the nature and behavior of your friend, and if indeed you have previously been in a situation where one of your friends has changed just because of money then obviously doubts are natural things that come out of your mind, I think your wife prefers the best way by only giving half the amount requested by your friend, that way your friend will not mention that you are one of the stingy people or cannot help each other and with that also then the risk that you will experience will not be too great.

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December 28, 2023, 12:43:17 PM
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How will you feel if someone you know or just a friend of a friend walk up to you and ask you to finance them in gambling in exchange for a portion of their winnings? Does this even make any sense?

Because the only place this makes a bit sense is the skills base niche like forex trading or crypto trading, how can gambling/gambler be financed?

Have you heard of such before? What is the end result if you have?

Why would you trust anyone to gamble better than you can when it's all about luck?

Is anyone doing this on here?

Someone explained this to me, and I believe he is already a victim because to me it doesn't make sense, I believe he is been used because he lacks knowledge about gambling, do you think my judgment is wrong?



I don't think you need to have any dealings with friends when it comes to money. A joint business or any arrangement regarding money with friends kills friendship very quickly. Friendship always does not require repayment of debts, friendship is gratuitous, there is only trust and kindness. But when one of your friends becomes rich, he can often change. I know many examples where if one of the friends has received a lot of money, he forgets about all his friends, and does not help them, although it costs nothing for him.

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December 29, 2023, 06:01:24 AM
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How will you feel if someone you know or just a friend of a friend walk up to you and ask you to finance them in gambling in exchange for a portion of their winnings? Does this even make any sense?
This is quite normal, but I think it can go two ways.

Scenario 1: When the person you trust to fund has a history of previous wins, and you can verify it, then it makes sense to sponsor him. It's somewhat like a form of additional capital mobilization. This often happens in the investment field, functioning similar to investment funds, where passive investors contribute money to the fund to do business for them and share the profits.
Scenario 2: If the person has lost all their money and approaches you for sponsorship to continue gambling, it's truly foolish to fund them. I believe you can assess in which scenario the person falls, right?
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December 29, 2023, 08:46:07 AM
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The research on the person may be good, due to his past wins, but it doesn't determine the results of the casino results. Rather he may face a losing spree that he won't be able to control after spending another person's money in gambling. Which indeed would be a huge problem in the relationship of such friends. The best thing to do is to allow the financier to decide if wants to do this, and also forget about the outcome. He only has a share when there is a win. Or he can gamble by himself. Anything else can lead to severe trouble and gambling is not the right niche to try such a thing. It's too unpredictable. Even the best lose out. Doing such a thing affects the responsibility of the owner of that money. He's no longer responsible for what happens with his money. Hence he won't be able to take the responsibility on behalf of someone else. It's crucial to know that whatever we do in gambling is a result of our choice. So, if they reached an agreement, we have no reason to alter it, but what matters is who among them would be most affected or sad.

The gambler takes the blame and may be asked to refund the money. Results do change when people are not comfortable with the outcome of their money investment. The financier may have been filled with lots of fantasies that he'd win lots of money and receive instances of people who did such things and won money. When the decision of the people around to judge such a dispute, erupts from funding a gambler. They'll blame the financier for giving a gambler his money to gamble. And this one is quite different from lending out money to a gambler. It's more like a deal. The financier does not have strong authority over the money like a lender would in the same situation. Following such cases, it's better to lend money than to finance a gambler, hoping on the profits. What if the profits don't show up? But on the side of the money lender or loan shark he has nothing to bother about if the person wins or not. His business is for the gambler to pay back once the signed duration is met.
Even though he has a good past in gambling, that does not guarantee that he still can gamble and can win the game he masters well. This is because many gamblers have the same abilities as them and often, other gamblers have higher abilities than them. This is why, when playing gambling, we should not underestimate the abilities of a gambler because perhaps their abilities are higher than ours. But asking other people to finance our gambling is not a good idea, even if we are professional gamblers. We can't take risks, especially since gambling doesn't guarantee a gambler will win. We have to think otherwise by having questions about how we can get the money back if we lose because in gambling, our chances of losing are greater than winning. Even though we are responsible when playing gambling, there will be times when we lose and if that happens to us, we will have difficulty getting the money back.

That's why we don't need to ask other people to finance gambling activities, and we only need to use the money we have so that there is no risk because we have to return the money. And even though the gambler is professional, that still doesn't guarantee he can win. And rather than later on we will get into trouble because we have financed someone's gambling activities. We should avoid it by saying that we need the money so we cannot invest in gambling. Another financier might think that it is a good opportunity to increase his money by financing gambling for other people. But if the financier loses, he will be disappointed and hold the gambler accountable. And if the gambler is his friend, it will disturb their friendship.

Now this is what needs to be considered, the idea of financing friends to engage in gambling even though they already have an agreement or agreement really can't rule out the possibility that in the end I think what you said is true that such a situation will cause problems and will obviously make their friendship relationship will be disrupted or even damaged just because of an idea like this. No matter what the situation is even if they do pay on time but I think it's still not a good situation especially for the person who financed it, like you said they will most likely come back again to ask for some funds to do another idea like that and maybe it will continue to happen indefinitely.

Money really has a very sensitive nature and with money then you will be able to know how the nature and behavior of your friend, and if indeed you have previously been in a situation where one of your friends has changed just because of money then obviously doubts are natural things that come out of your mind, I think your wife prefers the best way by only giving half the amount requested by your friend, that way your friend will not mention that you are one of the stingy people or cannot help each other and with that also then the risk that you will experience will not be too great.
Just because you can't return the money, the friendship will be disrupted so it's not worth paying for the gambling. Maybe we need to let him continue to look for other people who want to finance his gambling activities because we can't lend to him. We don't want to see our relationship with him damaged, which will also have an impact on other friends. Our friend should be able to realize that we really don't want to finance his gambling activities because the losing factor could become greater while we are gambling. We don't want our friends to experience serious problems that will prevent them from being able to return their money. After all, he is our friend.

I think my wife was right in suggesting that I give half of the total amount and assume that it is a donation and we don't need to ask for the money back because we already know that she will probably lose at gambling. It is true that money can make someone change quickly and will not look at the friendship between us. He will only think about himself and forget what we have given him. We don't want to experience this so we shouldn't have to lend him and if we don't lend him and it turns out his attitude changes towards us, that will be a sign that he is friends with us because of money. If that's the case, he's not a good friend and we don't need to remember that anymore.

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December 29, 2023, 12:01:00 PM
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There is also a point that we can indeed do a little research if indeed the person who wants to finance is one of our friends, as you said about we can see from the nature and behavior of our friends as long as we are friends and also during that time there will definitely be some situations where he has borrowed your money and whether he can pay on time or not before, so with that it is true that the way you said is quite reasonable and it can be taken into consideration before finally agreeing to finance his gambling.

I think not only cautious but if they have doubts in the agreement with their friend then I think it's better to avoid this deal, after all gambling is very dangerous because the randomness of the final result is always the main difficulty to get a win, in the matter of the amount of money I think this can be negotiated between the two parties, if indeed the one who wants to provide capital has doubts then obviously he will not agree to the large amount requested by his friend to gamble. However, it is better to put only the amount that we can be responsible for, whether you are gambling yourself or paying for someone else, it can be useful to minimize regret at the end of the session if you lose.
But to be honest, it could cause problems for us if the money would be used to finance his gambling. We might be in an unpleasant situation, especially if he loses and spends all his money. Our relationship with him may not be good because of debts that have not been paid by him. Even if he can pay on time, he will probably repeat his desire to ask us to finance his gambling another day because he sees that he can borrow money from us. And it would be like he was using us to finance his gambling and we would also probably feel bad if he didn't because he is one of our friends.

This money problem can cause a rift between us because money problems can change a person's character quickly without them realizing it. We may be able to accept it but the people around us may not be able to accept it because I had an experience where there was a friend who borrowed money and I wanted to lend it to him because I felt he really needed it, but my wife didn't agree if I gave it the amount of money he requested. My wife said that I could lend him half of the total money he asked for because we also needed the money.

Now this is what needs to be considered, the idea of financing friends to engage in gambling even though they already have an agreement or agreement really can't rule out the possibility that in the end I think what you said is true that such a situation will cause problems and will obviously make their friendship relationship will be disrupted or even damaged just because of an idea like this. No matter what the situation is even if they do pay on time but I think it's still not a good situation especially for the person who financed it, like you said they will most likely come back again to ask for some funds to do another idea like that and maybe it will continue to happen indefinitely.

Money really has a very sensitive nature and with money then you will be able to know how the nature and behavior of your friend, and if indeed you have previously been in a situation where one of your friends has changed just because of money then obviously doubts are natural things that come out of your mind, I think your wife prefers the best way by only giving half the amount requested by your friend, that way your friend will not mention that you are one of the stingy people or cannot help each other and with that also then the risk that you will experience will not be too great.
Funding friend gambling? A dangerous game. People and relationships are at the center of the issue, not money. Healthy gambling should be fun, not addictive. When you fund a friend's gambling, you're enabling a dangerous habit. Suppose they lose? They'll keep coming, a cycle hard to break.

While your wife's half-off offer is ingenious, its a temporary fix. Like saying, "I'll support you, but only halfway." Instead of resolving the money-friendship conflict, it avoids it. True support is about leading friends toward healthy choices, not subsidizing risky businesses.

How do we encourage friends gambling without enabling bad behavior? Supporting responsible gambling is the answer. Encourage limitations, set boundaries, and know when to retreat. Fun and responsibility must be balanced for their sake and your relationship's.

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December 29, 2023, 12:05:17 PM
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How will you feel if someone you know or just a friend of a friend walk up to you and ask you to finance them in gambling in exchange for a portion of their winnings? Does this even make any sense?

Because the only place this makes a bit sense is the skills base niche like forex trading or crypto trading, how can gambling/gambler be financed?

Have you heard of such before? What is the end result if you have?

Why would you trust anyone to gamble better than you can when it's all about luck?

Is anyone doing this on here?

Someone explained this to me, and I believe he is already a victim because to me it doesn't make sense, I believe he is been used because he lacks knowledge about gambling, do you think my judgment is wrong?



OP, I don't think that's ideal to finance anyone or group of person in gambling, gambling is a risk stuff, as a reasonable person, if people work up to you for business collaboration, first of all you will have to study the profit nature of such business, and also the risk involved, you can't just release money just like that unless you decided to dash them the money, op, I will speak for myself, your judgment is right, this guy that explained this incident to you is a victim, but in the aspect of some gambling better than you, I strongly have the feeling that gambling is a luck game but individuals can master some games and become successful in those game that's all I know.
My friend, this can't fail, even though I have never heard of it before, but if such exists and are known and popular for borrowing gamblers money, I can assure you that it will be one of the most booming businesses around. Gamblers are so many and are desperate at the same time, while some will not have immediate money to play and would want to play at all costs. They will get whatever loans at their disposal so that they will not be bored without gambling and trying to make money through it. The business in itself is what I do not like, it is selfish and a means to earn from people's woes, which is not good. This is the reason I believe that the gambling financing business is not known as they would not be so bold to mention that in society, while the government can sanction them as well.

That is why normal loaning establishments are all over the place, and anyone who needs to get loans for whatever reason can access it. If they like, let them collect their loans and gamble with everything, it is no one's business, after all, it wasn't plainly collected in the name of gambling. But really, gamblers should take it easy, collecting loans to gamble itself is so bad and even if there are gambling financiers, it is good that gamblers do not patronise them to avoid increasing their gambling woes which can lead to more financial embarrassment. All gamblers should always ask themselves a sincere question when they have gotten to the state of borrowing money to gamble whether they are still normal or not. But certainly, the truth is that they are already addicted at that point, they can't be normal at all. So it is better to retrace back the steps.

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