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April 16, 2024, 06:20:39 PM
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War make business owners not to make profits from their businesses because customers will be running for their dear life or managing the ones they have bought before the war started from the country.

You can see many countries war has reduced their economy to zero just because they allow war to involve between them and their neighboring country, no business will be moving well in such area, and their suppliers will be afraid to supply goods to those that demand for the goods because no one want to lose his life for war.

It will take some years before Russia and Ukraine businesses owners can recover from the damage of their businesses for the war that is affecting them, and it will make other countries to know that war always bring damage to the economy.

War indeed has a profoundly disruptive impact on economies and individual livelihoods. When conflict arises, normal economic activities often grind to a halt. Business owners face plummeting profits as customers prioritize safety and survival over shopping. Additionally, the uncertainty and danger associated with war zones discourage suppliers and disrupt supply chains, further strangling business operations.
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April 23, 2024, 01:25:34 PM
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Does United States allow Ukraine to attack Russia that way? Like attacking Russian weapon factories, refineries, etc.? No, absolutely not! Since US wants to turn Ukraine to Russia's Afghanistan, this is why they neither gives them any weapon with a range more than 100-300 km range, nor allows them to manufacture one themselves.
The Ukrainian Armed Forces have already carried out successful attacks on 14 Russian oil refineries, which led to a reduction in the export of petroleum products by a third. At the same time, some politicians in the United States were indeed dissatisfied with such attacks by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, since as a result, prices for gasoline and diesel fuel rose. But Ukrainian President Zelensky directly stated that he would not listen to this advice and that the terrorist country Russia can only be stopped if it strikes military facilities and other Russian facilities that support the invasion of Ukraine.

Considering that Russia continues to methodically launch missile and bomb attacks on populated areas of Ukraine, trying to destroy them to the ground, including such a multi-million Ukrainian city as Kharkov, killing civilians every day, it seems that any ban on attacks on military targets on Russian territory with the help of Western weapons has already been removed or will be removed in the near future.

Today the US Senate is scheduled to vote on the $60 billion aid bill to Ukraine, which was approved by the House of Representatives on April 20. Biden has already stated that he will sign it as quickly as possible and weapons, including long-range ATACMS shells, will soon arrive in Ukraine. Then it will be possible to clearly see at what depth in Russia military installations will explode under the blows of high-precision Western weapons.
In this regard, the Crimean Bridge, it seems, will soon tire and fall in parts to the bottom of the sea.

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April 23, 2024, 05:52:13 PM
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The Ukrainian Armed Forces have already carried out successful attacks on 14 Russian oil refineries, which led to a reduction in the export of petroleum products by a third. At the same time, some politicians in the United States were indeed dissatisfied with such attacks by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, since as a result, prices for gasoline and diesel fuel rose. But Ukrainian President Zelensky directly stated that he would not listen to this advice and that the terrorist country Russia can only be stopped if it strikes military facilities and other Russian facilities that support the invasion of Ukraine.
Zelensky is of course an actor, but very poor acting by him. You need to realize one thing: there is no Ukraine and no allies. There's US fighting Russia with the hands of Ukrainians. So this theatrical show (can also be called a good cop vs bad cop scenario) is there just to show that US government cares about oil supply and prices. Do they care in fact? Definitely not! Actually, they're happy the prices are going up so they can get more money for their own oil. Zelensky is just a sockpuppet reading out loud stuff received from the US sources.    

Considering that Russia continues to methodically launch missile and bomb attacks on populated areas of Ukraine, trying to destroy them to the ground, including such a multi-million Ukrainian city as Kharkov, killing civilians every day, it seems that any ban on attacks on military targets on Russian territory with the help of Western weapons has already been removed or will be removed in the near future.
Even now, after years of war, the number of civilians killed in this war (not only by the Russians btw) is lower than in any other recent war. It's at least five times lower than Israel's violent assault on Gaza. And I'm talking only about initial 2-3 weeks of Israeli occupation of Palestine. And don't forget the infamous UN report exposing war crimes of AFU, including placing artillery and MLRS units in residential areas.  Wink  

Today the US Senate is scheduled to vote on the $60 billion aid bill to Ukraine, which was approved by the House of Representatives on April 20. Biden has already stated that he will sign it as quickly as possible and weapons, including long-range ATACMS shells, will soon arrive in Ukraine. Then it will be possible to clearly see at what depth in Russia military installations will explode under the blows of high-precision Western weapons.
In this regard, the Crimean Bridge, it seems, will soon tire and fall in parts to the bottom of the sea.
Don't worry, Ukraine is not going to receive $60 billion worth of military support. As to the ATACMS missiles, Ukraine already used them (slightly shorter range though) and they don't require too much effort from the Russians to intercept and destroy.

Even if Ukraine is going to hit the Crimea bridge, it won't change anything on the battlefield: AFU are losing more villages and towns every day, more territories being captured by Russia without any chance to regain later.   
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April 23, 2024, 08:03:04 PM
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What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
The economic value of commodities will go up and the individuals will feel the heat more than the economy of the country and the most important  will be the life of individuals, and during war you hardly have access to commodities or even physical cash and things that are important during war is the safety of the people.

The simplest definition of war is a simple dispute between two countries that results in violence. It is never a pleasant experience or sight to behold. When a war breaks out, a lot of lives are lost, people go missing, children starve to death, businesses cease, and the nation is thrown into complete disarray. According to a little story, our grandparents told us, the only way to escape is to hide underground. The poor suffer the most during a war because they are unable to relocate to other safe places, cannot afford to stockpile food, lack access to healthcare, and lack guidance from security personnel. Meanwhile, the rich try their hardest to save their lives by utilizing their resources. War is the worst kind of conflict.
Even if war is dispute why cant they just settle it before taking people lives at risk, is not worth declaring anything on anyone, because if you see what people go through during war, mentally then the life's lost is not something anyone will want to experience, the sight of see dead bodies everywhere, you wont even think of the economy, the recure team during wars are trying during wars, yeah during war it is always difficult to navigate so the only people that its easy for are does that actually have money, but the government will also try their best to relocate people to a safe place.

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April 23, 2024, 08:39:17 PM
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what is crazy is that they voted billions to support Ukraine while it keeps losing. they are planning to send nukes to Poland.
they have been dragging Poland into this war already of course they have been telling Putin is going to invade all, but they are also giving him reason to do it like putting nukes in that country.
 

What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
The economic value of commodities will go up and the individuals will feel the heat more than the economy of the country and the most important  will be the life of individuals, and during war you hardly have access to commodities or even physical cash and things that are important during war is the safety of the people.

The simplest definition of war is a simple dispute between two countries that results in violence. It is never a pleasant experience or sight to behold. When a war breaks out, a lot of lives are lost, people go missing, children starve to death, businesses cease, and the nation is thrown into complete disarray. According to a little story, our grandparents told us, the only way to escape is to hide underground. The poor suffer the most during a war because they are unable to relocate to other safe places, cannot afford to stockpile food, lack access to healthcare, and lack guidance from security personnel. Meanwhile, the rich try their hardest to save their lives by utilizing their resources. War is the worst kind of conflict.
Even if war is dispute why cant they just settle it before taking people lives at risk, is not worth declaring anything on anyone, because if you see what people go through during war, mentally then the life's lost is not something anyone will want to experience, the sight of see dead bodies everywhere, you wont even think of the economy, the recure team during wars are trying during wars, yeah during war it is always difficult to navigate so the only people that its easy for are does that actually have money, but the government will also try their best to relocate people to a safe place.

they shouldn't start a war in the first place. but because it's just that sometimes there is the need to do it because of the country's security. if one country is just going to mind its own business and not tangled with border issues. settle these issues before they get worse then, there won't be any wars. but because they ask superpowers to back them.

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April 24, 2024, 10:26:56 AM
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what is crazy is that they voted billions to support Ukraine while it keeps losing. they are planning to send nukes to Poland.
they have been dragging Poland into this war already of course they have been telling Putin is going to invade all, but they are also giving him reason to do it like putting nukes in that country.
 
The real madness would have begun if Putin had not been stopped in Ukraine. Putin only understands power and will go as far as he is allowed. Therefore, the Baltic countries would definitely be next in his aggression. Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia understand this very clearly and help Ukraine in any way they can so as not to see destroyed houses and killed people on their territory. In fact, now Ukraine is fighting not only for its independence, but also the independence of all of Europe. Putin's Russia was not punished for the 2008 attack on Georgia, the 2014 attack on Ukraine and the seizure of the Crimean peninsula and parts of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions of Ukraine. That’s why he decided to take over all of Ukraine.

Have you seen what happened in just a month of occupation of the Kiev region by Russians? Dead civilians were lying right on the street: an elderly man on a cyclist, a woman with scattered groceries from her bag. They were killed simply for fun, because they felt permissiveness. And how many corpses were then removed from mass graves hastily dug in forest plantations and from basements with their hands tied behind their backs and bullets in the back of their heads. Would you like to see this in your country?

Of course, even Poland is afraid of such a repetition at home and therefore wants to place nuclear weapons on its territory to deter the horde of Russians. Escalation of hostilities and a reason for Putin to invade? The best reason for him to invade is weak neighbors. On the other hand, is Putin’s deployment of his nuclear weapons on the territory of Belarus not an escalation of the war with NATO?

Have you ever wondered why Finland and Sweden asked to join NATO after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine? Because the Finns have not yet forgotten how these neighbors attacked them in 1939-1940 and also do not want such a repetition. Russia's neighbors know what this horde is like. Your country is probably located far from Russia, so you feel relatively safe. To prevent this from happening again, Putin and his army of orcs must now be kicked in the teeth, so that many generations of these orcs will pay reparations to the Ukrainians for the evil they have done and remember the fatal mistake of their older generations.

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May 05, 2024, 06:58:22 AM
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Well, let's figure out when the Ukrainians and the state of Ukraine appeared, and when Russia appeared. The name "Ukraine" first appeared in the Kyiv Chronicle in 1187. Then it either disappears or is used again, but it has been in constant use since Cossack times, that is, since the 16th-17th centuries.
“Ukraine” is one of the official names of the Cossack state, which arose after the uprising of Bohdan Khmelnitsky against Polish power in the middle of the 17th century (along with other names - Zaporozhye Army, Hetmanate, Little Russia). It is very important that in the Cossack chronicles of that time the word “Ukraine” means not just territory, but the fatherland, which requires the highest loyalty and which is a sacred duty to defend.
In the 18th century, as the Cossack state dissolved into the Russian Empire, the word “Ukraine” again disappeared from active political use. However, this name is preserved in folk culture (there are approximately 1,200 folk songs sung about Ukraine). It returns to politics and high culture in the 19th century, during the period of national revival. And in the 20th century it became generally accepted - the name of almost not a single state and even occupation entity on the territory of Ukraine in 1917–1991 could be done without it: Ukrainian People's Republic, Western Ukrainian People's Republic, Ukrainian State and even the Nazi Reichskommissariat “Ukraine”.

I do not agree with you completely here.

The meaning of the word Ukraine means okraina in Russian which can be translated as "at the border" that is at the border of Russia.
Ukraine has bever been a separate country. From times immemorial Kiev Rus and Moscovia has been one and the same country. It is all inhabited by one people.
These are not different peoples because they have been using the Russian language as their main mother tongue.
I have been living in USSR and then in Russia, I know lots of Ukrainian people and my father was a Ukrainian.
What you are trying to do is prove that Ukraine is a separate country and a separate people.
This is total BS. How can it be a separate people when they are using Russian as their mother tongue?
Ukrainian language was invented by communists in the times of USSR.
Ukrainians should be thankful to Lenin for this.
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Have you seen what happened in just a month of occupation of the Kiev region by Russians? Dead civilians were lying right on the street: an elderly man on a cyclist, a woman with scattered groceries from her bag. They were killed simply for fun, because they felt permissiveness. And how many corpses were then removed from mass graves hastily dug in forest plantations and from basements with their hands tied behind their backs and bullets in the back of their heads. Would you like to see this in your country?


Have you seen what happened to people living in 2 breakaway provinces of Ukraine, namely Donetsk and Luganks after their territories were regularly and systematically fired upon by Kiev nazi? This bombshelling started in 2014 and MSM of the West have been ignoring these massive killings that took place on a regular scale.
Putin was forced to invade Ukraine partially because of these killings that Kiev regime was deliberately executing starting from 2014. 
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The real madness would have begun if Putin had not been stopped in Ukraine. Putin only understands power and will go as far as he is allowed. Therefore, the Baltic countries would definitely be next in his aggression. Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia understand this very clearly and help Ukraine in any way they can so as not to see destroyed houses and killed people on their territory. In fact, now Ukraine is fighting not only for its independence, but also the independence of all of Europe. Putin's Russia was not punished for the 2008 attack on Georgia, the 2014 attack on Ukraine and the seizure of the Crimean peninsula and parts of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions of Ukraine. That’s why he decided to take over all of Ukraine.

And this is total BS again, my friend.
One has to be crazy to think that Russia wants to occupy Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia. This is Western propaganda. There is not a word of truth in this. The West wants to destroy Russia and they invent a lot of stories in order to justify the destruction of Russia that neocons in the US so much desire.
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May 05, 2024, 07:51:58 AM
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- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
  • At the very start of the war if you can do it and you've got the money, do your best to seek asylum as quickly as possible but this will only be a thing that you should do when you're directly affected by the war erupting, if you're not affected at all or the proximity is too far, probably stay calm and watch the news update to the developments of the conflict, maybe stock up on non-perishable foods to make sure that your family won't be starving or something like that.
  • The best business that you can do is transportation or logistic services but that comes with the risk that you'll get caught in the cross fire because the higher the pay, the higher the risk that you'll have your services requested on the frontlines.
  • Normal movement of the market is going to be affected the most, once your in that state, there's little thing that you can do, if you've prepared for it before the war started near you or in your country then you wouldn't worry too much about this and you'd probably need to learn how to manage what's given to you when the rationing starts.
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Have you seen what happened to people living in 2 breakaway provinces of Ukraine, namely Donetsk and Luganks after their territories were regularly and systematically fired upon by Kiev nazi? This bombshelling started in 2014 and MSM of the West have been ignoring these massive killings that took place on a regular scale.
Putin was forced to invade Ukraine partially because of these killings that Kiev regime was deliberately executing starting from 2014. 
Until 2014, the Donetsk and Lugansk regions within Ukraine prospered. The main economic sectors of these regions were coal mining and metallurgy. At the time of separation from Ukraine, the separatists stated that the Donbass region supposedly fed the whole of Ukraine and without it Ukraine would not survive.

But in September last year, Russian Energy Minister N. Shulginov announced that the number of coal mines in the “DPR” - “LPR” had been decided to be reduced from 114 to 15.
Already in 2020, there were only six operating mines left in the LPR. As a result of this “restructuring,” according to local media, over 32 thousand miners lost their jobs. In the “DPR” at the end of 2022, only the Komsomolets Donbassa mine was more or less operating, producing over 1 million tons of coal. But even in mines that are still operating, equipment wear has reached 85%. The indicator "85%" means a pre-emergency condition.
Metallurgical enterprises in the region are already completely closed. Thus, the economy of Donbass and Lugansk as part of the “separate republics” was almost completely destroyed. They admit that these regions are now almost entirely subsidized by the Russian Federation.

What really happened to the people of these regions? From them the so-called first and second army corps were formed as part of the armed forces of the Russian Federation and they were sent to the front to fight against Ukraine. They were usually used in the front row to detect the firing points of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, so now there is almost no male population in the DPR and LPR. For this reason, public utilities do not work, the collapse is almost complete.

The Russian world brought decline and destruction to the Donbass, destroying a significant part of the civilian population. But Russia blames Ukraine for this. It’s so convenient to justify your atrocities.

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I see from you recent post that you are already out of arguments. Your arguments have come to an end and you are starting to collect any info despite it’s utter irrelevance.

People in those regions who were sent to the front mostly did that of their own free will. They were not kidnapped  like Ukrainian males are being searched and kidnapped by the Ukainian police all over Ukraine.

The US involvement into the conflict brought decline and destruction to the Donbass, destroying a significant part of the civilian population. But the US and Ukraine blames Russia for this. It’s so convenient to justify your atrocities.
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Until 2014, the Donetsk and Lugansk regions within Ukraine prospered. The main economic sectors of these regions were coal mining and metallurgy. At the time of separation from Ukraine, the separatists stated that the Donbass region supposedly fed the whole of Ukraine and without it Ukraine would not survive.

The Russian world brought decline and destruction to the Donbass, destroying a significant part of the civilian population. But Russia blames Ukraine for this. It’s so convenient to justify your atrocities.

Just google Donbass in 2014 vs now or Crimea 2014 vs now or Mariupol 2014 vs now. You will be shocked. All these locations looked like a shithole back in 2014. Even most Ukrainians and ex-Ukrainian locals admit it. Most of the towns across Ukraine, perhaps only with the exception of Kyiv haven't been renovated since Soviet times.
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Until 2014, the Donetsk and Lugansk regions within Ukraine prospered. The main economic sectors of these regions were coal mining and metallurgy. At the time of separation from Ukraine, the separatists stated that the Donbass region supposedly fed the whole of Ukraine and without it Ukraine would not survive.

The Russian world brought decline and destruction to the Donbass, destroying a significant part of the civilian population. But Russia blames Ukraine for this. It’s so convenient to justify your atrocities.

Just google Donbass in 2014 vs now or Crimea 2014 vs now or Mariupol 2014 vs now. You will be shocked. All these locations looked like a shithole back in 2014. Even most Ukrainians and ex-Ukrainian locals admit it. Most of the towns across Ukraine, perhaps only with the exception of Kyiv haven't been renovated since Soviet times.
I googled it and I stand by my opinion. I don’t want to give any quotes and facts from what I read and saw, since the reaction to them is known in advance, that this is Ukrainian propaganda. It is worth saying, of course, that the information on this topic on the Internet is quite old and reflects different propaganda opinions. This is understandable: there is a large-scale war going on, including in the information space. But even if we think logically, the economic situation and standard of living of people in the so-called DPR and LPR cannot be better, since military actions leave a direct negative imprint on them. If most of the mines and other enterprises in the region are closed, and there are almost no public utilities in the cities, then life there is definitely no better compared to how people lived in “Bandera’s” Ukraine.

Russia's aggression will end soon. Only after this will it be possible to objectively judge how people lived and are living in different regions of the once united Ukraine.

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May 07, 2024, 06:25:16 AM
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Mosly I agree with your post but there's one thing that does not look right to me:

Russia's aggression will end soon. Only after this will it be possible to objectively judge how people lived and are living in different regions of the once united Ukraine.


I would rephrase it as follows:

The NATOs aggression will end soon. Only after this will it be possible to objectively judge how people lived and are living in different regions of the once united Ukraine.
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Mosly I agree with your post but there's one thing that does not look right to me:

Russia's aggression will end soon. Only after this will it be possible to objectively judge how people lived and are living in different regions of the once united Ukraine.


I would rephrase it as follows:

The NATOs aggression will end soon. Only after this will it be possible to objectively judge how people lived and are living in different regions of the once united Ukraine.
It was not NATO countries that attacked Ukraine. Ukraine was attacked by orcs who call themselves Russians. It is from them that Ukrainians are now defending themselves with the weapons that NATO countries provide to Ukraine. Now in Ukraine there are over 500 thousand Russian soldiers and officers who, with weapons in their hands, came to the territory of Ukraine to kill Ukrainians, but several hundred thousand of them have already found their death in Ukraine.

Already this year, events will occur in Russia itself that will significantly change the course of Russian aggression in Ukraine, and even the clouded consciousness of the orcs will begin to realize what they have done in Ukraine.

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It was not NATO countries that attacked Ukraine. Ukraine was attacked by orcs who call themselves Russians.


Time and again you are wrong but you are staying the right course according to the CIA propaganda and misinformation.
Ukraine ad Russia are populated by the same people but unfortunately the elite in Russia was too lazy and got carried away when they have been slealing funds from the ordinary Russians. And so Putin overlooked what was going on in Ukraine during the last 20 years.
In the end CIA was succesfull in duping and dumbing down ordinary Ukrainians and now masses of Ukrainians think that Russia is the axis of evil and you yourself call us "orcs" in your post.
Dehumanization is a typical method employed by the CIA.
      
At the same time everybody can see that Ukraine has been turned into a police state which has nothing to do with democracy whereas Russia can still be called some kind of democracy.
Of course I understand that generally speaking Russia is not an example of democracy but at least Russia is not a police state like Ukraine because here in Russia police are not kidnapping ordinary people out in the streets in order to use them as cannon fodder.


It is from them that Ukrainians are now defending themselves with the weapons that NATO countries provide to Ukraine. Now in Ukraine there are over 500 thousand Russian soldiers and officers who, with weapons in their hands, came to the territory of Ukraine to kill Ukrainians, but several hundred thousand of them have already found their death in Ukraine.


It is not ordinary Ukrainians who are killed by the Russian forces. It is nazies who must be disarmed and brought to justice because they have killed lots of russians in Ukraine.
When Ukrainians are captured by the Russian forces they are treated very gently and with friendliness because we are the same people.
At the same time the Ukrainian nazies are torturing, raping and killing any Ukrainians who have been discovered to be sympathetic to the policy of Russia of denazification and demilitarization.

 
Already this year, events will occur in Russia itself that will significantly change the course of Russian aggression in Ukraine, and even the clouded consciousness of the orcs will begin to realize what they have done in Ukraine.


And what events will occur in Russia? Please share your information. I am intrigued.
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And what events will occur in Russia? Please share your information. I am intrigued.

I can approximately guess what he meant: CIA funded and masterminded student riots in Russia (like the ones started by CIA in Georgia now), possible coup' d'état by the same high-standing military officers who sold Russia's attack plan to CIA back in 2022, Putin's assassination attempt, fuelling and promoting national movements among the nationalities of Russia etc etc... so a pretty much standard set of CIA tricks.  Grin     
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At the same time everybody can see that Ukraine has been turned into a police state which has nothing to do with democracy whereas Russia can still be called some kind of democracy.
Of course I understand that generally speaking Russia is not an example of democracy but at least Russia is not a police state like Ukraine because here in Russia police are not kidnapping ordinary people out in the streets in order to use them as cannon fodder.

Well, let's talk about the level of democracy and police states in Ukraine and Russia.
According to the democracy index, which can be found on Wikipedia, Ukraine ranks 87th in the overall table of countries in the world in terms of democracy and is classified as a hybrid regime of government. Russia ranks 146th in terms of democracy and is classified as an authoritarian government.

Further. In terms of the level of the electoral process and pluralism of opinions, Ukraine has 6.5 points, and Russia only 0.92 points. Since Ukraine and Russia are actually at war, try going to the square with a “No to War” banner in Moscow and Kyiv. In Kyiv, they won’t be taken to the police station for this, but in Moscow, such a person will stand for a matter of seconds and most likely will be convicted of discrediting the army. In Russia you can’t even say the word “war”; people are put behind bars for this.

In terms of the political participation of the people in governing the country, Ukraine has 7.22 points, Russia - 2.22.
In terms of political culture, Ukraine has 6.25 points, Russia - 3.75. It is understandable what kind of political culture the orcs might have.
In terms of civil liberties, Ukraine has 4.41 points, Russia - 2.35 points.

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https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%81_%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BC %D0%BE%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B8/%D0%A0%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%82%D0%B8% D0%BD%D0%B3_2022_%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B0

Ukraine still has its own problems in almost all spheres of public life, but it cannot even be compared with the completely authoritarian regime in Russia, where Putin will rule with the rights of a tsar for 30 years, that is, until 2030.

Regarding the fact that in Ukraine, military registration and enlistment office workers grab people on the streets and send them to war, there are excesses in this matter, and in Ukraine they are fighting against these phenomena. For each fact of violation of the rights of citizens, inspections are carried out and the guilty employees of the military registration and enlistment offices are then sent to the front themselves.
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https://war.gordonua.com/amp/ochen-mnohie-rabotniki-ttsk-prosto-otpravljajutsja-v-boevye-podrazdelenija-venislavskij-rasskazal-o-reahirovanii-na-narushenie-prav-cheloveka-voenkomami-1706388. html

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May 08, 2024, 05:37:07 AM
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Does United States allow Ukraine to attack Russia that way? Like attacking Russian weapon factories, refineries, etc.?
Coming back to this topic after a couple of months I see a couple of you quoted this last line of my posts out of context and responded to it thinking you are debunking something. One of you even called it "Russian propaganda"!
First of all my friends, read the whole discussion, not just one line in a series of comments.

In this context, my response was to someone who claimed Ukraine has no way of winning just because Russia is stronger. I disagreed and brought up two actual examples and said the reason is Ukraine isn't attacking Russian infrastructure. Read the whole comment and the bold parts below:
I think even if they fight for their country it won't change anything, Russia's weapons are more complete than Ukraine's, enthusiasm alone is not enough, you need more than that.
Or has this become a scenario that must happen and is what the global elite wants?
I have to disagree since history is filled with examples where the invaded country defeats the invaders who had "more complete weapons". I can even give you two live examples: Yemen and Palestine. Both are facing a much more powerful and much better equipped invaders and both have been defeating their enemies.

For example in case of Yemen the invasion lasted more than 8 years and only recently it "paused" with a cease fire. Do you know why? The invaders (ie. US-Arab coalition) were forced to stop the invasion and slaughter the moment Armed Forces of Yemen started hitting them where it hurt the most, deep into their territories and their infrastructure like the Aramco oil facilities.

Does United States allow Ukraine to attack Russia that way? Like attacking Russian weapon factories, refineries, etc.? No, absolutely not! Since US wants to turn Ukraine to Russia's Afghanistan, this is why they neither gives them any weapon with a range more than 100-300 km range, nor allows them to manufacture one themselves.

Secondly, lets review what happened over the past couple of months ever since I wrote this and you guys responded this way.
1. Ukraine performs a handful of attacks on Russian energy infrastructure.
2. The order comes down from the boss in Washington to stop because it affects energy price and it would destroy United States economically https://www.ft.com/content/98f15b60-bc4d-4d3c-9e57-cbdde122ac0c
3. The attacks stop

Now go back to my post once again:
Does United States allow Ukraine to attack Russia that way? Like attacking Russian weapon factories, refineries, etc.? No, absolutely not!
The answer is No, US regime will not allow Ukraine to win this war or attack Russian infrastructure.

However, now that a weakness is found in US regime, each time Zelensky want something from Biden they'll pull off a small attack on Russian oil facilities to put pressure on Biden administration to get it!
That's pretty much it.
The effects of these attacks weren't even big enough to even slow down the Russian advances!

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