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October 16, 2023, 05:01:06 AM
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I hate wars. I hate conflicts. Both they are almost unavailable. Wars and conflicts disrupts lives. It kills people - men, women, babies. Businesses are shot down. Schools are shot down. Boys become father's and look after their moms and siblings because their father has gone to war. Daughters become mothers and have to care for their siblings because they lose their mothers to war. Children with perfectly normal lives become refugees

Wars and conflicts doesn't give you the time to plan. It happens fast and it happens suddenly. It comes with a huge economic cost. And for us in the cryptocurrency, we are not exempted too. If you are a miner, your mining operation is affected because if you are caught up in the conflict, you have to abandon it and flee so that you do not get killed.

I am deeply saddened by these wars. I am not taking sides because there are human causalities in both sides.

- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.

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October 16, 2023, 05:30:37 AM
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I wonder how you can think about business when there's a war in your country.

Most of countries will use their armed forces to handle it, but if they lack of participants, they will force their civilians especially 18+ years old men to join in war and they also open for volunteers. The country will give a support about foods, place to sleep, and weapon, while the women and kids will stay in the most safest place.

So when there's a tension in your country, it's better to fly to other country. Don't too late because civilians will not able to escape except you have a duty to escape.

War is inevitable because there are few organizations that earn profit during war e.g. weapon seller.
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October 16, 2023, 06:26:59 AM
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- do you have any survival tips during war period?

The only survival advice I can think of is to hide in a safe place since, from what I gather, war is different from conflicts in that it is very difficult for someone to survive because it involves security personnel from other nations and communities. This also depends on how well-equipped the enemy is; if they are, I can't offer any advice on how to live. War is deadly, and we should avoid it at all costs.

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- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
Yes, but only in the event that there is no attack on the network in the surrounding environment. Bitcoin is also helpful in such circumstances, but all you can do with it is know that you have it; you cannot spend it or place any orders with it. During this time, no physical business will be permitted as everyone is frantically trying to survive. I don't believe you can engage in any business.

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- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
War is not only about killing; it involves many other things as well. During this time, it will be difficult to the point where even the president or other national leader will find it frustrating. There won't be any food, water, hospitals, markets, or electricity during a war, and there will be killings everywhere; the only thing that will matter is risk.

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October 16, 2023, 07:01:25 AM
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- do you have any survival tips during war period?

Sell local currency, buy dollar and gold (and gold-plated jewelry). the local currency will probably go to waste, the dollar will be good, but it takes up space and it is difficult to bribe the border guard with it, because the light will turn on for him to search you for more. A gold-plated wedding ring given out of desperation as if it were the last and most important souvenir your wife has left of you leaves the guard with no illusions that you have nothing more and he will either let you pass and earn money or nothing at all.
Bitcoin will also be good, and probably better than anything I described above for escaping without the risk of funds being seized (just remember 12 words).
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October 16, 2023, 10:05:25 AM
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I don't know for sure how to survive when the country is at war because everything that comes to mind is how to stay safe and also have food supplies until the war is over, and I'm sure only people who survived the war can give the right tips the rest is just guessing.
However, if we talk about the impact of war on the world economy, of course, it will be very large, and usually the price of oil and food will have an impact so that we will get higher prices, live more simply and don't buy things whose value will quickly fall and keep holding fiat because this is really needed when buying groceries.

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October 16, 2023, 10:40:41 AM
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During the war only business is not possible to do any work properly the developing world is suffering the most from the embargoes and counter embargoes caused by the war. While the global economic situation was on the way to return to normal after the corona pandemic the war has put the global economic situation in a deep crisis and stress. Controlling wartime inflation is our greatest challenge at present in terms of the impact on banks the only way out of this crisis is to invest in bitcoin because the war will not have any impact on bitcoin.

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October 16, 2023, 11:13:05 AM
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I hate wars. I hate conflicts. Both they are almost unavailable. Wars and conflicts disrupts lives. It kills people - men, women, babies. Businesses are shot down. Schools are shot down. Boys become father's and look after their moms and siblings because their father has gone to war. Daughters become mothers and have to care for their siblings because they lose their mothers to war. Children with perfectly normal lives become refugees

Wars and conflicts doesn't give you the time to plan. It happens fast and it happens suddenly. It comes with a huge economic cost. And for us in the cryptocurrency, we are not exempted too. If you are a miner, your mining operation is affected because if you are caught up in the conflict, you have to abandon it and flee so that you do not get killed.

I am deeply saddened by these wars. I am not taking sides because there are human causalities in both sides.

- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.

Are you and your family in a war zone? To answer that, if you mean we live in a country involved in conflict, I have no comments, to be honest, I have no experience like living in a region/country involved in conflict or war. To survive in a conflict/war area is like gambling, especially since we also set up a business in that place too. Maybe evacuating or moving to a safer place is the first solution and thinking about business, investment and so on is the next number. It's useless to think about business but our lives and those of our families are threatened.

I live in a country that I think is safe from war conflict, but the cost of living has increased, oil prices have also increased, and there will definitely be other increases, especially as crises and wars continue to occur in other parts of the world, this will definitely affect everyone. country. My anticipation regarding this is of course investing in what I believe in my way, for example Bitcoin investment.
I still have high hopes that after the halving in April 2024, BTC will be able to rise to reach its latest ATH. This is investment money and my only hope.

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October 16, 2023, 12:33:46 PM
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I hate wars. I hate conflicts. Both they are almost unavailable. Wars and conflicts disrupts lives. It kills people - men, women, babies. Businesses are shot down. Schools are shot down. Boys become father's and look after their moms and siblings because their father has gone to war. Daughters become mothers and have to care for their siblings because they lose their mothers to war. Children with perfectly normal lives become refugees

Wars and conflicts doesn't give you the time to plan. It happens fast and it happens suddenly. It comes with a huge economic cost. And for us in the cryptocurrency, we are not exempted too. If you are a miner, your mining operation is affected because if you are caught up in the conflict, you have to abandon it and flee so that you do not get killed.


War is something no one wants because it brings no benefits, but for politicians, those who crave power see it as necessary to prove their power, a hobby. War will never go away and those politicians will never care about our life or death so let's find a way to take care of ourselves if war happens in our country.

The war between Russia and Ukraine is not over yet, we continue to witness the war between Israel and Hamas, I don't expect there will be another war from China and Taiwan in the future. I don't want world war 3 to happen but we can't do anything else if they want it to happen.

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October 16, 2023, 12:43:11 PM
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What kind of war are you talking about? There is a war in which your country participates, but it is far from the borders of the country. There is a war inside your country that leads to the disruption of part of the economy, or devastation inside the capital that leads to the destruction of most of the economy, or a war inside your region that makes the priority of being alive as your first thought. Some countries in the first state, as their countries support a war somewhere, and some countries ignite wars within the country.
If there was an expectation of war, then
1) Leave your money in the form of dollars and withdraw it from the bank.
2) Store your money in several safe places in several regions.
3) Try to have your economic activity linked to services such as water, food, and electricity
4) The speed of converting civil manufacturing activity to military and vice versa will determine your profits
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October 16, 2023, 12:58:22 PM
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- do you have any survival tips during war period?


Stay in a safe place, look for refugee camp and safe your life first.


- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family?


Yes if the internet is not destroyed yet. Crypto traders will still do business


Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?

Yes if you are in a safe region and the internet facility is still available.


- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.

I think you already know this. The discomfort for those who are alive in a war zone area doesn't allow for normal planning. All you can do is to improvise and hope that things get back to normal.

Usually in war areas, daily jobs are not visible only if you have internet and you are already savvy with it already.

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- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
I am too young and have never been in a war, so I don't think if my tips would be of any good to you, but one thing I can say for sure is, that survivability is a thing that is present in almost every person, in any conditions, people make bold moves, to save themselves, some give priority to themselves, some give priorities to save others. Overall, survival tips, are to look after yourself and others too, try not to be panic, think wisely, seek shelter, and try to save your family first. This would be my survival to-do list but I pray that a war never comes to us and to anyone.

And if a war occurs, then we might not get access to the internet or maybe the electricity would be gone, and I cannot do physical business also, because the existing business would be ruined then how can I run one?

And for the third question, the answer varies from person to person, because if a person has nothing to lose like his family is dead or has no one in his family, then his priorities and actions in the war will be totally different from a person who has a family. I mean, if a person is alone, then he can easily find something to eat, and a place to live, etc. for himself, but he might not find all the things for his family. And when that happens then we can say that the economy is being ruined.

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October 16, 2023, 05:41:33 PM
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No one wants to get involved in a war, only the arms dealers and those people that are earning when there's one.

- do you have any survival tips during war period?
It's not on my mind but if it ever happens wherever I am right now, I'll just flee as far as I can but will I be able to do that on my own, no. I've got a family that I have to take with me and I don't know if they'll agree with whatever sudden plan that I'll come up on the spot.

- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
Possible. For Bitcoin, if you have holdings now then you have to keep holding it but much better that don't broadcast or tell that to anybody at that time because everyone is for survival.

- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
Honestly, I don't want to think of these possibilities and future plans if ever it happens. Because I just don't have the nerve to think of it that it might actually come.

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October 16, 2023, 08:33:00 PM
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I hate wars. I hate conflicts. Both they are almost unavailable. Wars and conflicts disrupts lives. It kills people - men, women, babies. Businesses are shot down. Schools are shot down. Boys become father's and look after their moms and siblings because their father has gone to war. Daughters become mothers and have to care for their siblings because they lose their mothers to war. Children with perfectly normal lives become refugees

Wars and conflicts doesn't give you the time to plan. It happens fast and it happens suddenly. It comes with a huge economic cost. And for us in the cryptocurrency, we are not exempted too. If you are a miner, your mining operation is affected because if you are caught up in the conflict, you have to abandon it and flee so that you do not get killed.

I am deeply saddened by these wars. I am not taking sides because there are human causalities in both sides.

- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.

War destroys lives and properties, It disrupts peace of mind, businesses crumble,  loved ones are lost in the battle field your freedoms is restricted.  If your mind  can be at rest to think of a business to do other than staying safe, then you are a super human. The only survival tip that should be on anyone's mind at this point is staying safe.

Good for you if you still have access to wifi/Internet and power supply to trade online which I doubt will be available.  Otherwise,  hodl your coins till everything normalises.

During wars, civilians are moved to refugee camps. The government,  NGOs and even government of other countries offer paliatives to alleviate the hardship faced during that period.  At this point, there are no bosses. Struggle to stay alive, Obey the rules at the camp. No one likes war, but when it happens we should try to protect ourselves.

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October 16, 2023, 08:35:20 PM
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- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
- There is no solution except to leave the place of conflict or conflict areas as soon as possible. Any other solution cannot be guaranteed, no matter who the guarantor is.
- There are those known as the "war rich" or they also call them "crisis merchants", who are a group whose business flourishes in areas of tension. We find among them arms dealers, for example, contraband dealers, and all those involved in smuggling, because they benefit from the state of chaos imposed by the reality of war. I do not advise you to be one of them because they are more blood brokers than real entrepreneurs.
- If you live in a country that has crises that could cause war or potential internal conflict, it is best to prepare yourself and your family for what might happen before it happens. It means, for example, to secure sufficient savings and provide a place to live outside the conflict zone.
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October 16, 2023, 09:02:55 PM
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- do you have any survival tips during war period?

Well, there is not much to say here because once a war starts, there is nothing to do but have a place to hide to escape death, injuries, and other disasters that will affect you, your family, business, and other useful things that belong to you. So what I mean here is that the only tip you should know and utilise when there is war is to hide. If you do not have the mind to save other people, you should hide yourself, and I think that's just it.
 
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?

For the first time you said that during the war you listed things that were affected and you included businesses that were shut down due to the war, so why did you bring business here again? There is no way you are running for your life; you will still be looking for money, especially during the war. When there is war, how can you think about doing business?

However, the only time I think you can do business in this period is when maybe people who were affected immigrate from where the war was booming now have someplace to hide for the main time. Then definitely, you may decide to open even a small store there, and you may get paid using BTC if there are people among them that have bitcoin since they may lack the local currency due to the war.

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October 16, 2023, 09:03:35 PM
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- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
- There is no solution except to leave the place of conflict or conflict areas as soon as possible. Any other solution cannot be guaranteed, no matter who the guarantor is.
- There are those known as the "war rich" or they also call them "crisis merchants", who are a group whose business flourishes in areas of tension. We find among them arms dealers, for example, contraband dealers, and all those involved in smuggling, because they benefit from the state of chaos imposed by the reality of war. I do not advise you to be one of them because they are more blood brokers than real entrepreneurs.
- If you live in a country that has crises that could cause war or potential internal conflict, it is best to prepare yourself and your family for what might happen before it happens. It means, for example, to secure sufficient savings and provide a place to live outside the conflict zone.
Unless our dear OP decides to sells weapons or their parts to the waring bodies, then the only business you should be more concerned with, is how to leave the place and settle where it would be more peaceful to source for jobs and look after a family. BTC is one sure way to earn in these times because of the campaigns and signature business ongoing. Take a cue and learn how to tradd using bots as well.

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I hate wars. I hate conflicts. Both they are almost unavailable. Wars and conflicts disrupts lives. It kills people - men, women, babies. Businesses are shot down. Schools are shot down. Boys become father's and look after their moms and siblings because their father has gone to war. Daughters become mothers and have to care for their siblings because they lose their mothers to war. Children with perfectly normal lives become refugees

Wars and conflicts doesn't give you the time to plan. It happens fast and it happens suddenly. It comes with a huge economic cost. And for us in the cryptocurrency, we are not exempted too. If you are a miner, your mining operation is affected because if you are caught up in the conflict, you have to abandon it and flee so that you do not get killed.

I am deeply saddened by these wars. I am not taking sides because there are human causalities in both sides.

- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.

Nobody benefits from war as lives are destroyed and  economic reality is always on the downtrend, that is why it is always said that, it better to jaw-jaw than to war-war. Dialogue is always the solution to any conflict because even after the war the both warring factions will still come to a round table to dialogue, so why not dialogue in the first place before going to war, because dialogue will prevent the war from happening.
There are hardly survivor tips in war, because everywhere will be destroyed, except you have to move over to remote areas that are not known by your enemies to stay low, if not everywhere is almost brought to the ground level, they say whatever you do in war is fair.

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October 16, 2023, 10:55:32 PM
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Being in war is being at chaos.

It is almost impossible to get your business running during war, especially if the whole country is involve in war like landlock countries in Asia and Europe. It's always the people who suffer for the aftermath. Timely, I just watched a survivor from Israel, they are so innocent partying just dancing along during the festival moments after they are running with bullets and for their lives. From there I can already assume that living in war is such a traumatic experience that you can't even think about opening a business or doing stuff by yourself.
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October 16, 2023, 11:07:50 PM
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I hate wars. I hate conflicts. Both they are almost unavailable. Wars and conflicts disrupts lives. It kills people - men, women, babies. Businesses are shot down. Schools are shot down. Boys become father's and look after their moms and siblings because their father has gone to war. Daughters become mothers and have to care for their siblings because they lose their mothers to war. Children with perfectly normal lives become refugees

Wars and conflicts doesn't give you the time to plan. It happens fast and it happens suddenly. It comes with a huge economic cost. And for us in the cryptocurrency, we are not exempted too. If you are a miner, your mining operation is affected because if you are caught up in the conflict, you have to abandon it and flee so that you do not get killed.

I am deeply saddened by these wars. I am not taking sides because there are human causalities in both sides.

- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.

Who wants war, right? except for the leaders of each country who have this desire or those who have bad intentions. During the war, can you still think of doing business if your surroundings are full of gunfire, explosions, and killings? Of course, that thing cannot be thought of first.

Your main goal will be to save your family's life, if you have one, or your own. And hide in a place that is far from the battle and killing; this will be your way to survive and escape this deluge. And there are some countries that have conflicts with each other, and I hope they will not increase.

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October 16, 2023, 11:40:42 PM
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I hate wars. I hate conflicts. Both they are almost unavailable. Wars and conflicts disrupts lives. It kills people - men, women, babies. Businesses are shot down. Schools are shot down. Boys become father's and look after their moms and siblings because their father has gone to war. Daughters become mothers and have to care for their siblings because they lose their mothers to war. Children with perfectly normal lives become refugees

Wars and conflicts doesn't give you the time to plan. It happens fast and it happens suddenly. It comes with a huge economic cost. And for us in the cryptocurrency, we are not exempted too. If you are a miner, your mining operation is affected because if you are caught up in the conflict, you have to abandon it and flee so that you do not get killed.

I am deeply saddened by these wars. I am not taking sides because there are human causalities in both sides.

- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
  When a country is at war with each other everyone in that country suffers from it. Both the young and the old are  left with no choice  to leave  their home to refuge camps, the abundance of things won’t be of the same as it were  cause you will be ask to cut thing the way you use them. War has never been the world solution to solve problems rather it’s cause economy down trend of the country and the world at large. It takes quite some time to build a city  and to make it the bubbly place to live, war can destroy even the busiest cities in split second. So years of hard work and building structural infrastructure and innovation can be gone in just seconds. Let’s take the most recent example which is the Israel/ Hamas war. Gaza is currently feeling the heat of isreali ballistic weapon. The city which took years to build is now looking like an abandoned project. War doesn’t not favor any party that’s involve in it, for each nations will both feel the pressure of the war regardless of who has the higher power. It doesn’t not only affect the people in the region alone. It affect the world too indirectly.
  War also affect the world economy, the effects of war shaken the entire sector of the economy, in the financial market, the recent conflict has impacted stock market returns, commodity market and corporate decisions. But Bitcoin is proven to be a possessive hedge towards economic instability and be use as a hedge and safe haven across currencies. However it is unknown whether the war has had any influence on the cryptocurrency market, especially bitcoin trading and returns.
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October 16, 2023, 11:40:57 PM
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- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.

1) Relocate to a peaceful country. It's more a philosophical question but I strongly believe in the right to self preservation, so a civilian does not need to place himself or his loved ones at lethal risk if his world views and Raison D'etre don't align with those of his government...

2 & 3) If you mean in the war zone, there are lucrative jobs like being a mercenary / private contractor which requires almost in all cases previous military experience, or a war correspondent which similarly would demand some experience with journalism, naturally these come with extremely high levels of risk during times of war...

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October 16, 2023, 11:48:58 PM
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- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.

1) Relocate to a peaceful country. It's more a philosophical question but I strongly believe in the right to self preservation, so a civilian does not need to sacrifice his survival if his world views and Raison D'etre don't align with those of his government...

2 & 3) If you mean in the war zone, there are lucrative jobs like being a mercenary / private contractor which requires almost in all cases previous military experience, or a war correspondent which similarly would demand some experience with journalism, naturally these come with extremely high levels of risk during times of war...

To be honest, if you are in a war zone, not all people have the capability to relocate to another country.
The more practical to do is go to the nearest border of another country and hope that they will accept refugees.
That is, if you have no money to pay for airfare, visa and other docs to go to another country.
This is why a lot are not leaving their war zone country because of financial difficulties.
For businesses, I believe, food is the major concern of these people trapped. However, if they have no money to pay, how can you make business out of it?
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October 17, 2023, 01:04:21 AM
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I am deeply saddened by these wars. I am not taking sides because there are human causalities in both sides.
I am on side with you, I don't like war and prefer to negotiate with opponents to create a peaceful environment. If we read the history of the war, we will discover the fact that war makes a big loss for the people, whatever it's, won or lost, the countries that are involved in war will suffer huge losses from all sides. And, until today, I don't have a plan or way to survive if my country is involved in war. I still believe my country is peaceful, and leaning toward negotiating than firing the rockets. Until today, I still don't know how to connect to the internet if the war happens and shut down it, where make my life over and and can't produce anything if the internet goes out.
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October 17, 2023, 07:20:14 PM
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- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
- There is no solution except to leave the place of conflict or conflict areas as soon as possible. Any other solution cannot be guaranteed, no matter who the guarantor is.
- There are those known as the "war rich" or they also call them "crisis merchants", who are a group whose business flourishes in areas of tension. We find among them arms dealers, for example, contraband dealers, and all those involved in smuggling, because they benefit from the state of chaos imposed by the reality of war. I do not advise you to be one of them because they are more blood brokers than real entrepreneurs.
- If you live in a country that has crises that could cause war or potential internal conflict, it is best to prepare yourself and your family for what might happen before it happens. It means, for example, to secure sufficient savings and provide a place to live outside the conflict zone.
Unless our dear OP decides to sells weapons or their parts to the waring bodies, then the only business you should be more concerned with, is how to leave the place and settle where it would be more peaceful to source for jobs and look after a family.
To be precise, contraband dealers are not the only ones who can benefit from the reality of war. There are types of companies whose activities flourish as a result of wars, and they are spending reconstruction contracts whose mission will be to build entire cities and revive them so that they become livable again. This category can also be considered among the war-rich people, despite the nobility of their activities. Of course, there are many analyzes that indicate the involvement of these companies in causing the outbreak of wars.
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- do you have any survival tips during war period?
The first thing is to look for ways to save your life. Seek means to stay out of the battle zone and seek bomb shelters that can protect you from attacks. The next thing should be to seek means to get and stock basic needs such as water and food. Also, ensure you eat to survive and not for pleasure.  

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- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
The period of war is a time of uncertainty. Many businesses will not strive in a war period. Have you ever watched the videos of the devastation in Gaza? No business can survive under such bombardments, deaths and injuries. Forget about the financial budget and plan how to survive. I heard Gaza currently has no access to water, electricity or internet facilities, so you might not be able to earn bitcoin.

But you can earn from jobs like filming or taking photographs of war situations. You can also start a social media channel where you can be able to unveil the war timelines.

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- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
I read a news where about 31 members of the Shihab family in Gaza died due to the strike from Israel. War leads to nothing but suffering and death. Businesses will be closed down for life and there will be massive loss of human and material resources. You will have to survive with what is available and also try to help others if you can.  

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do you have any survival tips during war period?
The only thing is for you to try and look for a way to escape to the neighbouring country.

are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family?
Sell weapons, because this is the only business that will need attention and gives a lot of money. The reason is that weapons are made for wars.

Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
If you are already earning in bitcoin in this forum, and there is still internet and power supply. Yes

- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
If you are still in the country, the only way is to locate a refugee camp where you will be rest assured that it is secured and there will be provision of food and shelter.

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October 17, 2023, 08:34:40 PM
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I hate wars. I hate conflicts. Both they are almost unavailable. Wars and conflicts disrupts lives. It kills people - men, women, babies. Businesses are shot down. Schools are shot down. Boys become father's and look after their moms and siblings because their father has gone to war. Daughters become mothers and have to care for their siblings because they lose their mothers to war. Children with perfectly normal lives become refugees

Wars and conflicts doesn't give you the time to plan. It happens fast and it happens suddenly. It comes with a huge economic cost. And for us in the cryptocurrency, we are not exempted too. If you are a miner, your mining operation is affected because if you are caught up in the conflict, you have to abandon it and flee so that you do not get killed.

I am deeply saddened by these wars. I am not taking sides because there are human causalities in both sides.

- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
While wars are events that happen in an instant, the period that leads to a war is very long and this gives people the chance to escape way before that, lets look at the war between Russia and Ukraine, this is a conflict that can be traced back to 2014, and most likely it is way older than that, so after that happened if I was a person living at Ukraine I would have done everything in my power to leave as it was clear a full invasion was coming at some point, since the best thing you can do when you know a war is coming is to avoid being on the crossfire in order to avoid having to deal with the questions you bring forward.

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- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.

you should be grateful because you can still earn bitcoin from the campaign signature payment that you participate in on this forum, we don't know what will happen next, there are many rumors that say that the third world war will happen, I have prepared myself enough if the war spreads further and it's crazy, I recommend everyone to have an investment and for a businessman, maybe you can try selling basic necessities because it is a basic and basic need for mankind, everyone needs to eat so the basic food business will never be detrimental.



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October 17, 2023, 09:15:19 PM
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The economic impact of war is numerous to mention that all one should hope for to be is nothing but safe and well fed.
Fitness may have little to do with war, but if called upon to serve I hear you dare not as a male, whine or grumble.
The best bet is to flee the waring state to another and or go underground in bunkers and bomb shelters to evade the war and be malnutritioned, maybe in the end, depends on how long the war or the bomb shelters or bunker lasts, one gets to be free and safe and be able to keep up with cryptocurrencies especially Bitcoin supposing the network and Telecom mast providers still transmit 4g or 5g network to enable trading or P2p transactions.


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October 17, 2023, 09:21:59 PM
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- do you have any survival tips during war period?
-Move to an area far from the fighting if you can.
-Gather information from trusted sources.
-Take advantage of opportunities to learn how to protect yourself.
-Identify escape routes from your country.
-Look for medicine and hygiene products as well. These are important for maintaining your health in stressful situations.
-Gather canned and nonperishable food items.
-Loot supplies if you have no other choice.
-Learn basic first-aid to treat minor injuries.
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I like to add the importance of considering fitness right now because you never know if your country is the next place for a crisis to start.

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- do you have any survival tips during war period?

I have not experienced war so I do not have anything in my pocket, but surely a simple search on the internet will give us more than a handful of information on how to survive during war.

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- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?

Obviously, you can still do business during war, business or trading does not stop, it can be as simple as doing a barter trade or offering services that can give you income.  if it is not a world war and your country is not involved in the war then you can do normal business within your community.

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- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.

It will be a chaos since when one country is under a war period, their economy will surely plummet and most possibly the food supply will not be enough.  You can possibly sustain them by preparing in advance, moving to a remote area far from the center of fighting and planting vegetation, or raising animals.
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October 17, 2023, 11:20:00 PM
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- do you have any survival tips during war period?
Conserve energy and go to a place where you think is the safest to you and your family first.

- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family?
If this is during the period of war, I wouldn't do anything but to just preserve myself and my family to be alert at all times because you'll not know if bombs are already on the way and bullets will go through your roof and walls.

Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
As long as there's still an internet connection by that time but as I've said, I will think first of my safety and just to survive until the period of war ends.

What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
I haven't gone through it and I don't intend to. But watching, hearing, and reading the experiences of the war veterans and the families that have gone through with it, it's so hard. It's like the entire world has shattered on them and despite they know that there's hope, it's just so hard to uplift them economically and emotionally.

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October 17, 2023, 11:41:48 PM
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- do you have any survival tips during war period?
-Move to an area far from the fighting if you can.
-Gather information from trusted sources.
-Take advantage of opportunities to learn how to protect yourself.
-Identify escape routes from your country.
-Look for medicine and hygiene products as well. These are important for maintaining your health in stressful situations.
-Gather canned and nonperishable food items.
-Loot supplies if you have no other choice.
-Learn basic first-aid to treat minor injuries.
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I like to add the importance of considering fitness right now because you never know if your country is the next place for a crisis to start.

those are actually practical tips to stay alive as much as you can if you are in the war zone. so yeah, before you think of any business to venture with, safety should be your priority on these challenging times.
so yeah, i do agree that before anything else, better secure your family to a safer place. as much as possible far from the main areas of bombing and other war activities. you want your family to be alive no matter what, right?

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October 18, 2023, 12:25:47 AM
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- do you have any survival tips during war period?

Run, I don't think there are any other tip than run far far away from the War Red-Zone, the bigger the countries area the less likely the war will spread so I think it's pretty doable, you can stay in your country but not in the center of the war. If the countries is not so big, so the war will more likely to spread to the whole area, then you should run to overseas, which will be much more difficult, especially for people with less money.

- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?

I don't think anyone at war would think about business or investment, people who are at the war-zone war will run away, and people in war countries who are outside of the war-zone will trying to help and accomodate the refugee.

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There probably isn't a single answer to this. It's relative. Although wars are always about killing each other, they differ from one to another. So, I think it will be on a case-to-case basis. If you're from Russia or Israel, for example, which are both involved in wars right now, it wouldn't be that hard, but if you're from Gaza or a heavily bombarded city in Ukraine, you definitely need a different plan.

But I think that if you're literally caught in the middle of a war, you don't think of business. It's a matter of survival. If you have money, it's either it's almost useless or you won't think of earning from it. What probably matters most is that you can actually exchange them for food.

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War is not a natural disaster. Every war has its direct culprits in the person of specific state officials who started the war and decided to carry out an attack, and there are also people and the state that defend themselves from attack in this war. The behavior of people in a country that is involved in a military conflict should depend primarily on what country you live in - a country that has committed an act of aggression against another country, or a country that has been attacked.

First of all, you need to assume that if you live in a country like Russia that attacked Ukraine, then the citizens of the attacking country are also partly to blame for this situation due to the fact that they allowed such an attack. After all, according to the constitution of each state, it is the citizens who elect the highest officials of this state, and therefore are responsible for any of their actions. If a particular citizen cannot influence the end of the war that has begun, then he has the right to avoid participating in it by any means.

If you live in Ukraine or Israel, which were attacked, then evading the defense of your state will only lead to even worse consequences. There should be no other choice than to defend your country from an attack by an aggressor. Personal economic interests should not be of decisive importance here.

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October 18, 2023, 10:25:29 AM
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I am deeply saddened by these wars. I am not taking sides because there are human causalities in both sides.
I am on side with you, I don't like war and prefer to negotiate with opponents to create a peaceful environment. If we read the history of the war, we will discover the fact that war makes a big loss for the people, whatever it's, won or lost, the countries that are involved in war will suffer huge losses from all sides. And, until today, I don't have a plan or way to survive if my country is involved in war. I still believe my country is peaceful, and leaning toward negotiating than firing the rockets. Until today, I still don't know how to connect to the internet if the war happens and shut down it, where make my life over and and can't produce anything if the internet goes out.


War is really a bad thing no matter what the issue is it does not warrant war things should be settled amicably not go to war because one thing about war is that innocent people are the ones who get hurt, if you watch the documentary of what is going on currently in Israel and Palestine you will cry because the way missiles are landing costing people their lives is sad if countries can avoid war they should avoid it instead of making decisions without considering the consequences.

The loss is not only for the people but also the government because after so many hits they will have to restore normalcy to all the affected areas which will cost money and people affected to look for where to stay and it will even make a lot of people to leave the country has a result the war. I know my country can not even dare go to war where will they even have the money to start a war so we all pray for peace even for countries that are at war?

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October 18, 2023, 11:49:27 AM
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I've not experienced war, but I have heard stories of war. My dad experienced the civil war in my country. He told me how he used to go on empty stomach, how they used to feed on lizards for survival, how they used to sleep in bushes to hide themselves from the enemy.

War has serious economic effect on the citizens, aside from the wanton loss of lives and properties, everything comes to a standstill in the country, business comes to an end, schools and banks are shot down, food becomes scarce as local farmers are not safe in their farms, foreign importation of food are cut off. So I don't think anyone in a war zone can engage in any successful business other than looking for his or her personal survival.
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We cannot avoid wars, There are some people who have different perspectives, and beliefs in life reason why hard to have unity, with each country that only you can do is accumulate resources for your survivability and recover once you have the chance after war, because that state is like a chaos only the people in the community will the one who suffer. It was a hard matter most of the government will support or oppose so they needed to join the war or else becomes a follower. On mine i hope i don't experience this thing in my country.

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War will only bring damage and loss to innocent people. It made many businesses close and made many people miserable. But as ordinary people we can't do anything about it, we can only survive and ensure that we and our families can survive. That's why in difficult conditions like now we have to ensure that we don't spend too much money on things that aren't important and keep our savings and income intact.

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I hate wars. I hate conflicts. Both they are almost unavailable. Wars and conflicts disrupts lives. It kills people - men, women, babies. Businesses are shot down. Schools are shot down. Boys become father's and look after their moms and siblings because their father has gone to war. Daughters become mothers and have to care for their siblings because they lose their mothers to war. Children with perfectly normal lives become refugees

Wars and conflicts doesn't give you the time to plan. It happens fast and it happens suddenly. It comes with a huge economic cost. And for us in the cryptocurrency, we are not exempted too. If you are a miner, your mining operation is affected because if you are caught up in the conflict, you have to abandon it and flee so that you do not get killed.

I am deeply saddened by these wars. I am not taking sides because there are human causalities in both sides.

- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.

As a citizen of a country that has been subjected to a terrorist attack by a neighboring state, I can share my experience:
To be clear - I live in Kiev, the capital of Ukraine. My country since 2014 has been waging a forced defensive war against the country of the international terrorist - russia.

If in 2014 it was "far away", since February 2022 Russian terrorist troops have already bombed and shelled Kiev, destroyed the nearest cities and their population.

First thing to do:
- Have a "rescue backpack" for each family member - documents, money (including cryptocurrency media), medicine, and other essentials
- Take women and children to safe places
- help their armed forces/enter territorial defense/wage guerrilla warfare against the aggressor

As a result - your country will resist, defend its right to life, and you will be able to save your own and others' lives and property.

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- War survival tips is to get your family as far away as you can from the front lines. Try to move to a neighboring country.


I can't think of any business that can be done during a period of war. During war money is scarce and people would rather do trade by bater system where they trade an item they have for another item. You cannot budget or save. The goal is to survive and keep your family safe. In fact during that period, your mind automatically goes into self- preservation mode.



- to sustain your family during war, move them very far away from the hot zone. Do all you can to survive.

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I hate wars. I hate conflicts. Both they are almost unavailable. Wars and conflicts disrupts lives. It kills people - men, women, babies. Businesses are shot down. Schools are shot down. Boys become father's and look after their moms and siblings because their father has gone to war. Daughters become mothers and have to care for their siblings because they lose their mothers to war. Children with perfectly normal lives become refugees

Wars and conflicts doesn't give you the time to plan. It happens fast and it happens suddenly. It comes with a huge economic cost. And for us in the cryptocurrency, we are not exempted too. If you are a miner, your mining operation is affected because if you are caught up in the conflict, you have to abandon it and flee so that you do not get killed.

I am deeply saddened by these wars. I am not taking sides because there are human causalities in both sides.

- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
The only solution I can see is to take off to some continent as fast as possible. Every time the war doesn't start suddenly there will be a rare case in which the other state did not know about the attack decision of others. Today the world is very advanced and the intelligence of the country informs the country before anyone attacks. The only possible business you can do during the war is to provide Aram and food to the military because the country needs these two very abundant but as an individual it is very difficult. well, it's not appropriate here but just for the understanding I can give you the example of America. In WW1 America sold food and military to Britain, Italy, and Germany, America provided them both and couldn't participate in war yet, and after that America jumped into it. You can do only the two businesses but it is very rîskey to help them in the field
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- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.

The first thing you can do is to save your money in dollars, gold, Bitcoin, and silver. Whenever there is a war, your local currency will be devalued, and your buying power will be significantly reduced. You can also use Bitcoin as a store of value, and you will have a complete hold of your money. Invest in stocks, real estate, and liquid assets for cash flow. War has a significant negative impact on the lives of the people. Commodities prices will increase along with Oil and Gas prices. The crime rate will increase, and the law and order situation will be badly affected. It is important to relocate to a peaceful country, if possible or try to stay in your home/ shelter as much as possible.

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I hate wars. I hate conflicts. Both they are almost unavailable. Wars and conflicts disrupts lives. It kills people - men, women, babies. Businesses are shot down. Schools are shot down. Boys become father's and look after their moms and siblings because their father has gone to war. Daughters become mothers and have to care for their siblings because they lose their mothers to war. Children with perfectly normal lives become refugees

Wars and conflicts doesn't give you the time to plan. It happens fast and it happens suddenly. It comes with a huge economic cost. And for us in the cryptocurrency, we are not exempted too. If you are a miner, your mining operation is affected because if you are caught up in the conflict, you have to abandon it and flee so that you do not get killed.

I am deeply saddened by these wars. I am not taking sides because there are human causalities in both sides.

- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.

Everyone tries to avoid war and conflict. When there is a war, there is destruction everywhere, how can business be done in such a situation? Things that take us years to build are destroyed in moments due to war. Living in war-torn areas, you cannot do any business or sustain your family economically. In war-torn areas, the economic situation worsens and people who are living well are left in a state of extreme poverty. When the business, job, home and area are all destroyed, he has no place to live. People from well-fed families hardly eat two meals a day.I don't think you will earn anything in Bitcoin during war because communication system is destroyed in war.

The solution is to either take all precautions before war. Most people build underground bunkers before war where they can protect themselves and their families during war, and store dry food and medicine. So that you don't face any problem. Otherwise, one has to migrate from the war-torn areas to a safer place to provide economic security to the family.


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War absorbs a country's resources drastically. Most of the resources have been allocated to war efforts which causes the lack of funding for infrastructure development. The overall impact of the war was felt by the poor and middle-class people who lost their jobs and businesses. Most of the time war is initiated due to the selfishness of politicians and bad decisions about the international relations of a country.

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The only solution I can see is to take off to some continent as fast as possible. Every time the war doesn't start suddenly there will be a rare case in which the other state did not know about the attack decision of others. Today the world is very advanced and the intelligence of the country informs the country before anyone attacks. The only possible business you can do during the war is to provide Aram and food to the military because the country needs these two very abundant but as an individual it is very difficult. well, it's not appropriate here but just for the understanding I can give you the example of America. In WW1 America sold food and military to Britain, Italy, and Germany, America provided them both and couldn't participate in war yet, and after that America jumped into it. You can do only the two businesses but it is very rîskey to help them in the field
I would say trying to figure out a way to make profit is not that easy during a war like this. It would be smarter to just keep it online which means that you are going to profit anyway. I mean lets assume that you have a dropshipping business, and it works from anywhere in the world, if there is a war in your nation, you can move to another nation and keep doing it.

If it is a dropshipping product that can be done anywhere in the world, that means the product nation could be attacked too and you would find another manufacturer and just lose a bit of time that's it. So all in all, it is not really impossible to make money if one nation is at war. Truth be told when the whole world goes into war, that will be different because we are going to end up in a different situation.
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Am also wondering countries experiencing this war how are they surviving and how are they managing. Firstly in times of war everyone is expected to stay save first because life comes first before thinking about the economy and your investment. One thing with humans they will always find a way through no matter the condition.
I watched a video on YouTube yesterday where a little boy was crying that he watched his little nephew got bomb and he was crying seriously I felt very emotional.
So countries experiencing war there economy are at risk, peoples investment such as estate investment and other investments. So if you ask me what to do in time of war I will say you should protect your life first or the best is to change location.
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War is grief, war is destruction, war is evil. I know it from myself as a resident of Ukraine.

I’ll tell you a little about my vision for the future, or my wishes for the development of the situation.

What is happening in the world now is a “sabbath of terrorists.” It began at the end of the 20th century, when, after the collapse of the USSR, many republics that were part of both the USSR and the Russian Federation (I focus on the form of the state) decided to live independently without a “forced union”.

By the way, let me immediately remind you that there is no manipulation - the RSFSR, which later became the Russian Federation, was one of the first to support and leave the USSR.

After that, as Kremlin propaganda later told us, the Russian Federation began to be attacked by either Ichkeria, Georgia, or Moldova, then in other regions they allegedly persecuted Russian speakers, then they (Russia) defended other independent countries from unknown reasons. As a result of all this, the CAPTURE of foreign territories began. If at the initial stages it was simply creating cesspools under the control of the Kremlin, then after 2022 Russia began to simply CAPTURE and annex ALIEN territories. You will say that this is actually a “local problem of the post-Soviet space.” NO. It was a subtle probing of the world's reaction to terror and lawlessness. The world was SILENT. He was silent when 300,000 civilians of Grozny were killed. He was silent when the herds of the army of terrorists and marauders burst into little Georgia, and so on until the massive invasion of Ukraine in 2022.
The world was silent. Even in March 2022, the world watched in silence.
And this became the same “tacit consent” that in the heads of terrorist regimes gave rise to the idea of “everything is permissible and impunity if you kill, destroy, and ignore all laws and treaties.” But fortunately the world has “woke up”. No, not all of it. Countries for which freedom and democracy are not an empty phrase, and countries that suffered from Soviet Nazism during the USSR, came to the defense of Ukraine.

But the flywheel of impunity was launched a long time ago, and by 2022-2023 the world had accumulated a desire to “flex its muscles” under the condition that other regimes and groups supported by such regimes also have impunity. We know very well who is fueling the fire of a new global war in the Middle East. We see systemic destabilization in Africa. These are not random events, they are a chain of well-correlated and connected actions.

These events have an impact on individuals, peoples, countries, and regions of the world. We are all now becoming hostages to the further development of the situation - either the CIVILIZED world will recognize the real threat of systemic state international terrorism-Nazis (like a cancer), and will take measures, drastic and tough measures to combat this disease, or we will all watch the destruction of the modern world and plunge into chaos, war, extermination of peoples and countries... And the development of the situation depends on each of us - what we will do and which side we will choose.

Let me also remind you that after the defeat and destruction of Nazism and the Third Reich (though not completely, its metastases remained and then turned into RASHISM), the world began to develop peacefully and qualitatively! The Second World War cooled people's heads and gave them several decades of fairly quiet life, without global wars. It is possible that terrorism (RASHISM and other movements) will be destroyed, and the world, having received such experience, will take all measures to avoid repetition and will live and develop peacefully. These are my highest expectations

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My advice to you will be to focus on the basic necessities that people need in a War scenario.... namely ==> Food & Drinks. People go into survival mode when there are a war, so I will provide safe shelter for people in need and also food and something to drink. You should not exploit these people with high prices, because you just need to help where you can.

I will also convert my profits into Bitcoin to protect my wealth, because Banks are not safe during a war and trying to hide your wealth in a war torn country is just stupid..... because you will lose everything if you have to flee the country.  Roll Eyes

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War is a scary thing and will harm many people, especially people's activities in work, business and other activities. Because they will be threatened and very at risk.
And if war was dangerous and unsafe, maybe what I would do is hide or move to a safe place away from the war. And provide as much food and drink as possible for wartime needs, and maybe if I still feel uncomfortable I will immigrate to a safer country during the war.

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October 22, 2023, 05:00:21 PM
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- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?

Not everyone has the opportunity to emigrate or escape a war zone. That's why it's so bad when innocent people get hurt. Those who suffer the most from war are people who do not have sufficient opportunities.

War negatively affects people and societies in every aspect. Access to basic food and needs is becoming difficult. Having basic food and necessities and being in a safe place are some of the most important things during war.

It is necessary to invest through Bitcoin and not be affected by banks becoming unreachable in a possible bad situation.
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I wonder where the op's notion of the war's coming from. I mean, yeah, wars disrupt lives and lead to many deaths, but I'll speak from my experience as a Ukrainian that many fathers are not called up to serve in the war, and as for those that got conscripted or went as volunteers, the main impact of that falls on women, on mothers, and not on their sons. It must be some extremely conservative society for a minor to take the lead in an event of the absence of a father just because he's a boy. Women work, women earn money, women support and protect their children, in times of war more than ever. And when both parents are killed, minors aren't legally allowed to become the legal guardians of their families, so the children are usually taken care of by other relatives or are put for adoption.
Now, to the questions.
The survival tips really depend on where you are, in which role (civilian or military), and how intense the fighting/air attacks are. But what is important is to decide in advance how you'll react to various scenarios, to have basic medical supplies with you at all times, to obtain knowledge of first aid (if you don't already know it), and to learn to remain calm in difficult situations. If you're very close to combat zones, you need to evacuate, even if it means leaving everything behind.
As for business, it really depends on the specifics of the war. In case of Ukraine, tech shops really got a chance to flourish because the demand for power stations, power banks, electricity generator and generally for electronic devices really went up due to blackouts and due to many once again working from home to avoid unnecessary risks. So yeah, of course there are some businesses that can prosper, even though, in general, it's a very stressful time for businesses.
The economic impact is largely negative, but that also depends on what kind of job a person has and can get. So seeing what kind of people are in higher demand and how realistic it is to obtain a new qualification if your current job is suddenly completely irrelevant is desirable.

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I hate wars. I hate conflicts. Both they are almost unavailable. Wars and conflicts disrupts lives. It kills people - men, women, babies. Businesses are shot down. Schools are shot down. Boys become father's and look after their moms and siblings because their father has gone to war. Daughters become mothers and have to care for their siblings because they lose their mothers to war. Children with perfectly normal lives become refugees

Wars and conflicts doesn't give you the time to plan. It happens fast and it happens suddenly. It comes with a huge economic cost. And for us in the cryptocurrency, we are not exempted too. If you are a miner, your mining operation is affected because if you are caught up in the conflict, you have to abandon it and flee so that you do not get killed.

I am deeply saddened by these wars. I am not taking sides because there are human causalities in both sides.

- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.

As most people say you have to go to other countries but I don't think it is a proper solution. For example, if a person didn't have that much money he could go to another country and escape. This will be only better for those who already have businesses in other countries and they have a war in their country, then they should easily escape themselves to other countries and then they should start their business there and live a happy life.

The war badly affects a country and its internal system but I say not only that country in which the war is started but affect those which are their neighbor countries and they didn't make relationships with that country unless or until the war is stopped. Better is invest from the very first after that go where ever the person wants to go and be safe from the war.

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We cannot avoid wars, There are some people who have different perspectives, and beliefs in life reason why hard to have unity,
That's true, in order to have unity everyone should have the same point of view, beliefs, culture, political stance, etc. This is why the world could not achieve the unity we all deserve for. What we can do the least is to have peace, even if we do have a lot of differences, if we are able to accept those differences then we can all have peace for the world. No wars and conficts!

It was a hard matter most of the government will support or oppose so they needed to join the war or else becomes a follower. On mine i hope i don't experience this thing in my country.
No one really wants it, especially us the citizens because we are all going to suffer if this happens. But at the same time, government is preserving its peace in its country, every country, any threats to peace in order to any country will surely result to war. Also, government have treaties and agreements in times of war, so even if you're country has nothing to do with the enemy country of your treaty agreed country, you should be an ally and support them during war, which will technically include you in war.
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Now I’m reading the forum, and another air raid alert has been announced in Kyiv. Another notorious, pathetic, cowardly idiot, hiding in the Kremlin bunker, once again gave the order to attack peaceful cities of Ukraine with IRANIAN drones....

This is what “influence” on people looks like. It contains from 20 to 40 kg of explosives. They are launched into peaceful cities of Ukraine. The targets are residential areas of a peaceful city. This can greatly "affect" both a person and an entire apartment building...

And this is what the Shaheds look like (already shot down), “adapted by Russian crooked engineers of the second army of the world” Smiley
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There is perhaps no worse thing in this world than war, and I have always hated it. Conflicts like war affect a country in many ways and cause the death of both women, men and children of the country. And what companies, factories, schools, institutions, destroy everything by shooting or grenade attacks due to which the country is completely silent.  Moreover, there is enough pressure on the common people and if the father of a family dies when he goes to war, the family is completely destroyed. War is often an ugly thing to hate where only people die, and what a country suffers economically.

Moreover, if you look at the current wars between Israel and Palestine, our chest trembles. Where the Israeli forces are doing this huge amount of torture on all the people, starting from the Palestinian men and women and children. There are many families who have lost their parents and many families who have lost their little children. They have started a war in such a way that they are destroying a country where the people of the country are supposed to live in peace, the people of Philistine are not even getting food. No place to stay, no food, no water, all the places are in ruins, dead bodies of children are lying in different places. Thousands of children have lost their parents and are living like helpless today. They are facing death due to food starvation. That is why I hate war the most and it is best if there is no war in any country in the world and everyone maintains peace and order.


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As most people say you have to go to other countries but I don't think it is a proper solution. For example, if a person didn't have that much money he could go to another country and escape. This will be only better for those who already have businesses in other countries and they have a war in their country, then they should easily escape themselves to other countries and then they should start their business there and live a happy life.

The war badly affects a country and its internal system but I say not only that country in which the war is started but affect those which are their neighbor countries and they didn't make relationships with that country unless or until the war is stopped. Better is invest from the very first after that go where ever the person wants to go and be safe from the war.

While fleeing to other nations may not be an option for everyone during times of war, it is critical to recognize the complicated and far-reaching consequences of battle. To address immediate survival issues, prioritize safety and readiness, which may involve having an emergency plan in place as well as access to vital supplies. Sustaining companies and money in crisis zones can be extremely difficult, but investigating online or remote job options, investing in assets such as Bitcoin, and cooperating with foreign groups for assistance might provide some resilience.
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October 24, 2023, 07:46:18 PM
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There is perhaps no worse thing in this world than war, and I have always hated it. Conflicts like war affect a country in many ways and cause the death of both women, men and children of the country. And what companies, factories, schools, institutions, destroy everything by shooting or grenade attacks due to which the country is completely silent.  Moreover, there is enough pressure on the common people and if the father of a family dies when he goes to war, the family is completely destroyed. War is often an ugly thing to hate where only people die, and what a country suffers economically.
One of the main issues of war or any destructive behavior is that it is way easier to engage on those behaviors than in doing something constructive, and lets use a smartphone as an example, the amount of technology and skill that went into making such a complex device is impressive, however in order to destroy it you only need to toss it to the ground with all your strength and all of that impressive technology now becomes a piece of junk, and the worst part is that a war will not only have a massive effect now, it will have an effect on the country subject to it for decades, a period long enough for another war to start and for the cycle to keep repeating itself.

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October 25, 2023, 04:57:52 AM
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I hate wars. I hate conflicts. Both they are almost unavailable. Wars and conflicts disrupts lives. It kills people - men, women, babies. Businesses are shot down. Schools are shot down. Boys become father's and look after their moms and siblings because their father has gone to war. Daughters become mothers and have to care for their siblings because they lose their mothers to war. Children with perfectly normal lives become refugees

Wars and conflicts doesn't give you the time to plan. It happens fast and it happens suddenly. It comes with a huge economic cost. And for us in the cryptocurrency, we are not exempted too. If you are a miner, your mining operation is affected because if you are caught up in the conflict, you have to abandon it and flee so that you do not get killed.

I am deeply saddened by these wars. I am not taking sides because there are human causalities in both sides.

- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.


My heart is grieving for all the innocent people who are affected by this war and the least that we can do is to pray for these lives.
I am just speaking based on all of my observations and from what I have seen from all the news. I think when you are stuck in war, the only thing that will be on your mind is to be safe with your family, and of the war to stopped. I think this is very obvious that there will be a negative economic impact for all the families during the war period, and the only way to sustain them is through the help of the government whether it is local or national, through providing relief goods for the families. Also, I don't think establishing a business, or saving and earning in bitcoin would ever cross your mind during wars because your mind will be clouded with just wanting to be safe and to survive. Afterall, money will be meaningless, and life is still the most valuable thing in this world.



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October 25, 2023, 10:04:38 AM
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I hate wars. I hate conflicts. Both they are almost unavailable. Wars and conflicts disrupts lives. It kills people - men, women, babies. Businesses are shot down. Schools are shot down. Boys become father's and look after their moms and siblings because their father has gone to war. Daughters become mothers and have to care for their siblings because they lose their mothers to war. Children with perfectly normal lives become refugees

Wars and conflicts doesn't give you the time to plan. It happens fast and it happens suddenly. It comes with a huge economic cost. And for us in the cryptocurrency, we are not exempted too. If you are a miner, your mining operation is affected because if you are caught up in the conflict, you have to abandon it and flee so that you do not get killed.

I am deeply saddened by these wars. I am not taking sides because there are human causalities in both sides.

- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.

The only thing to do during a period of war is to survive, especially if you exist within the area where there is open combat. It is not intentional to kill civilians during wars but they get killed anyways. This had necessitated the need for people to always flee war zones and look for livelyhood somewhere else.

There is no individual economy in war, it is always collective as you can not survive alone, you must always be in need of something you do not have and therefore needs someone who has it to assist with it or to trade something in exchange for it.

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War will only bring damage and loss to innocent people. It made many businesses close and made many people miserable. But as ordinary people we can't do anything about it, we can only survive and ensure that we and our families can survive. That's why in difficult conditions like now we have to ensure that we don't spend too much money on things that aren't important and keep our savings and income intact.
Every country avoid wars but when situations become altered and there is no other way then country start war. Countries where there is war is not only effected by war but all others countries also get effected by it as process transportation gets effected, also export and import become hard to carry on.
Not only in situations of war but in all circumstances we should save some amount of money because a person is not moneyed all the time. Sometimes a person is wealthy enough that he spend continously and don't think regarding future so when there comes a time when he Don't have any amount then be regret for his act but regression cannot give you anything so try to be ready for every situations and do not over spend on those substance which are not a Compulsory part of life.
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War is something no one wants because it brings no benefits, but for politicians, those who crave power see it as necessary to prove their power, a hobby. War will never go away and those politicians will never care about our life or death so let's find a way to take care of ourselves if war happens in our country.

The war between Russia and Ukraine is not over yet, we continue to witness the war between Israel and Hamas, I don't expect there will be another war from China and Taiwan in the future. I don't want world war 3 to happen but we can't do anything else if they want it to happen.
There would be no war if the people on the attacking side did not want to kill others. War is not a natural disaster and can always be avoided, including by appropriate attitude and actions against it.

For the second year now, the Russians attacking Ukrainians, trying to destroy Ukraine as a state, seize more foreign territories, and take away and appropriate the property of Ukrainians. All this time, about 70 percent of Russians actively support this war, support the continuous bombing and destruction of peaceful Ukrainian cities. Now in the occupied territories of Ukraine there are about 440 thousand Russian invaders who came to Ukraine to kill, rob and rape. It is not Putin who robs and kills, it is the Russian people who do it. Hence the conclusion - Russians want war and want to profit from war.

To stop such wars of conquest, it is necessary that the rest of the inhabitants of our planet harshly condemn such actions and prove this by their actions. If we do not do this, or if we run away from the war, as many here advise, the war will overtake us in other countries where we flee.

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Every country avoid wars but when situations become altered and there is no other way then country start war. Countries where there is war is not only effected by war but all others countries also get effected by it as process transportation gets effected, also export and import become hard to carry on.
Not only in situations of war but in all circumstances we should save some amount of money because a person is not moneyed all the time. Sometimes a person is wealthy enough that he spend continously and don't think regarding future so when there comes a time when he Don't have any amount then be regret for his act but regression cannot give you anything so try to be ready for every situations and do not over spend on those substance which are not a Compulsory part of life.
   When people keep promoting war, it's always funny because they really do not know what the entirety of the country would face if such happens. There are lot of adverse effects of war in a country and it really does affect the economy greatly. When there's way, the whole revenue generation would cease, everyone would be made to survive on management and making do with the resources they're able to keep secured during the period of the war which would in no time get exhausted.
 Even the after effect of the war would be bad because now, the nation would have to start all over again and then it'll take them longer time to get to a more balanced standard before being able to forge ahead fully into survival. There are no benefits in war, because everyone suffer from it cause ranging from, adult and children. Cities that took years to build will up going down in just one day. The sight of war is scary and people who has experienced will not want to experience it again.
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November 19, 2023, 09:43:45 PM
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- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
i'm not an economic consultant, but i think the best way to survive during wartime is to buy only essential items, not be wasteful and be very consumptive.  As long as this happens, of course the basic needs business will be a favorite business, apart from that, the health and transportation business will also be a favorite too, choose the business that suits you.  if a war occurs globally then all citizens of the world will be harmed, the impact of the war is very large, and will usually cause major damage to a country's system, prepare yourself for all the worst possibilities during future wars.

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I am grateful that I still live in a country that is still peaceful and peaceful without war until now, but if you ask me, it is necessary at any time and to survive in such conditions the main thing to do is The first always have a Buffer Stock like  food, water and oil when problems start to come and place them in a safe place, Next is to keep yourself and your family members safe during war and regarding Business, it is quite difficult because the conditions are adjusted, but we can also adjust if there is time and opportunity, but I think the possibility is very small if we trade at times like that.

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The trauma that these wars give to individuals is totally huge. I think there were even documentaries that give the viewers an idea what trauma is from people that suffers it because of the wars.
They don't want to have that and they're all just victims of these leaders playing chess and the pieces are their militaries and innocent people as pawns.  Undecided


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The trauma that these wars give to individuals is totally huge. I think there were even documentaries that give the viewers an idea what trauma is from people that suffers it because of the wars.
They don't want to have that and they're all just victims of these leaders playing chess and the pieces are their militaries and innocent people as pawns.  Undecided

Yeah.. the trauma that war inflicts on individuals can be profound and long-lasting. The experiences of war can lead to post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), anxiety, depression, and other mental health problems. Survivors of war may also experience physical injuries, chronic pain, and social isolation.  Documentaries can be a powerful way to give viewers a glimpse into the experiences of war and the trauma it causes. By sharing the stories of survivors, documentaries can help to raise awareness of the human cost of war and promote peace and understanding.

War is a devastating tragedy that inflicts immense suffering on innocent people. They become collateral damage in the grand chess game played by powerful leaders, their lives and well-being mere pawns sacrificed for political gains. The leaders who orchestrate these conflicts often remain insulated from the horrors they unleash. We must hold our leaders accountable for their actions and demand that they prioritize the well-being of their people over their own political agendas. Only then can we hope to alleviate the suffering of those caught in the crossfire and create a world where peace prevails.

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The trauma that these wars give to individuals is totally huge. I think there were even documentaries that give the viewers an idea what trauma is from people that suffers it because of the wars.
They don't want to have that and they're all just victims of these leaders playing chess and the pieces are their militaries and innocent people as pawns.  Undecided

Yeah.. the trauma that war inflicts on individuals can be profound and long-lasting. The experiences of war can lead to post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), anxiety, depression, and other mental health problems. Survivors of war may also experience physical injuries, chronic pain, and social isolation.  Documentaries can be a powerful way to give viewers a glimpse into the experiences of war and the trauma it causes. By sharing the stories of survivors, documentaries can help to raise awareness of the human cost of war and promote peace and understanding.

War is a devastating tragedy that inflicts immense suffering on innocent people. They become collateral damage in the grand chess game played by powerful leaders, their lives and well-being mere pawns sacrificed for political gains. The leaders who orchestrate these conflicts often remain insulated from the horrors they unleash. We must hold our leaders accountable for their actions and demand that they prioritize the well-being of their people over their own political agendas. Only then can we hope to alleviate the suffering of those caught in the crossfire and create a world where peace prevails.
Because of their personal bias and agendas, many innocent people becomes the collateral damage of these wars.
It is like a video game to them that making them put the lives of innocent people at risk.
While the commander in chief and all other high ranking officials are on their offices giving commands to their people while them at their own comfort zones.


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I am grateful that I still live in a country that is still peaceful and peaceful without war until now, but if you ask me, it is necessary at any time and to survive in such conditions the main thing to do is The first always have a Buffer Stock like  food, water and oil when problems start to come and place them in a safe place, Next is to keep yourself and your family members safe during war and regarding Business, it is quite difficult because the conditions are adjusted, but we can also adjust if there is time and opportunity, but I think the possibility is very small if we trade at times like that.

Even though we live in a peaceful and peaceful country, war conflicts are occurring in the Middle East and also the conflict between Russia and Ukraine. We can really feel the impact of this war even though geographically the country where I live is quite far from the countries experiencing conflict.
And the impact of this war will be felt by countries whose countries depend on other countries to meet their needs, such as food and energy. Of course, even though these countries are farthest from the conflict, they also have to suffer and be affected by it, because energy and food prices have experienced quite significant price increases.

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War has so many negative impact on people, people lose their homes, valuables, relatives and physical investments, this might cause many to be mentally derailed because of the horrible experience of war, when you talk about business that people can involve themselves during war, you have to mention selling of arms to the waring nations, we know that this is not that possible as we see it, I think it is a nation thats permitted to do this with the help of individuals, the only option for me is Bitcoin investment, when one notice the sign of imminent war, you have to diversity most of your investment in bitcoin and other crypto this is the only way you can safeguard your wealth in the time of war.

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- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.

Move to different location, it may sound selfish but that is the only thing that can help you and that is what the leaders do as well who initiate wars.

Wars disrupt the economies of other countries too depending on what good is exported from there and from where they import goods into their nation. In Palestine, no countries will be affected due to their loss so it won't affect any country economically whereas if Russia starts war then they stop the oil exports then most countries will go short of oil which will lead to all the prices of goods we used to surge.









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- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.

Move to different location, it may sound selfish but that is the only thing that can help you and that is what the leaders do as well who initiate wars.

Wars disrupt the economies of other countries too depending on what good is exported from there and from where they import goods into their nation. In Palestine, no countries will be affected due to their loss so it won't affect any country economically whereas if Russia starts war then they stop the oil exports then most countries will go short of oil which will lead to all the prices of goods we used to surge.

So according to your theory, if we depend on the resources of a terrorist or maniac, we should worship him and not oppose his crimes ? ! Are you serious? Smiley
That is why the EU has chosen a difficult and unpopular, but vital decision - to refuse gas from the country of the terrorist and diversify supplies from other sources. It is also worthwhile to substitute oil from the terrorist's country. Besides, it is profitable for everyone to punish the criminal and force him to sell a tool for manipulating the world economy (in this case oil) at a dumping price. Since Russia is totally dependent on oil revenues. Russia is a country with an absolutely raw material economy.
And it was economic terrorism that became a continuation of their usual terrorism, when the whole developed world stood up against Russia. So either the world will defeat terrorism, or terrorism will drown the world in blood and manipulation.....

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- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.

Move to different location, it may sound selfish but that is the only thing that can help you and that is what the leaders do as well who initiate wars.

Wars disrupt the economies of other countries too depending on what good is exported from there and from where they import goods into their nation. In Palestine, no countries will be affected due to their loss so it won't affect any country economically whereas if Russia starts war then they stop the oil exports then most countries will go short of oil which will lead to all the prices of goods we used to surge.

So according to your theory, if we depend on the resources of a terrorist or maniac, we should worship him and not oppose his crimes ? ! Are you serious? Smiley
That is why the EU has chosen a difficult and unpopular, but vital decision - to refuse gas from the country of the terrorist and diversify supplies from other sources. It is also worthwhile to substitute oil from the terrorist's country. Besides, it is profitable for everyone to punish the criminal and force him to sell a tool for manipulating the world economy (in this case oil) at a dumping price. Since Russia is totally dependent on oil revenues. Russia is a country with an absolutely raw material economy.
And it was economic terrorism that became a continuation of their usual terrorism, when the whole developed world stood up against Russia. So either the world will defeat terrorism, or terrorism will drown the world in blood and manipulation.....


I didn't say start worshipping the bad guys to save your lives, I said move on to a different location where there is no war.

EU countries completely stopped purchasing oil and Gas from Russia, I don't think so which means they are financing terrorism too right?

I am not taking sides here, just talking from an individual's perspective of who wants to live and where the war is happening.










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- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.

Move to different location, it may sound selfish but that is the only thing that can help you and that is what the leaders do as well who initiate wars.

Wars disrupt the economies of other countries too depending on what good is exported from there and from where they import goods into their nation. In Palestine, no countries will be affected due to their loss so it won't affect any country economically whereas if Russia starts war then they stop the oil exports then most countries will go short of oil which will lead to all the prices of goods we used to surge.

So according to your theory, if we depend on the resources of a terrorist or maniac, we should worship him and not oppose his crimes ? ! Are you serious? Smiley
That is why the EU has chosen a difficult and unpopular, but vital decision - to refuse gas from the country of the terrorist and diversify supplies from other sources. It is also worthwhile to substitute oil from the terrorist's country. Besides, it is profitable for everyone to punish the criminal and force him to sell a tool for manipulating the world economy (in this case oil) at a dumping price. Since Russia is totally dependent on oil revenues. Russia is a country with an absolutely raw material economy.
And it was economic terrorism that became a continuation of their usual terrorism, when the whole developed world stood up against Russia. So either the world will defeat terrorism, or terrorism will drown the world in blood and manipulation.....


I didn't say start worshipping the bad guys to save your lives, I said move on to a different location where there is no war.

EU countries completely stopped purchasing oil and Gas from Russia, I don't think so which means they are financing terrorism too right?

I am not taking sides here, just talking from an individual's perspective of who wants to live and where the war is happening.

Perhaps I misunderstood your thought, I apologize.
But also the option of "running away from war" - as for me, a citizen of Ukraine, where the war came in 2014 with an attack from Russia, this approach is not acceptable. If we all "go where there is no war" - what will happen to my country ? Capture and destruction. Then this trouble will come to the place where we decided to run away. And so on to the sad ending.
Avoiding a problem doesn't solve it, it only makes it worse. Therefore, in a situation when your country has become a victim of aggression - running away is not the most logical option, although it solves the problem for a while.
I can agree with a slightly different option - if life is not comfortable or does not work out in a given house, neighborhood, city, town, region, country - it is probably worth finding a more convenient place to realize your plans. This is normal.

PS Regarding the fact that the EU buys Russian oil rather than sponsoring terrorism - I partially agree. But there are nuances here - it is a forced measure, before the final decision to change suppliers. Moreover, the EU has adopted a package of laws limiting the income of the terrorist country by introducing price caps on transactions with this "commodity".

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When war is going on, the first thing I will think about is the safety of myself and my family. And as the OP said, we won't even have time to make careful plans if war suddenly breaks out. But at least we must know the indications before the war. So that we can make preparations when we have noticed and received indications.

If we are in a conflict area, maybe the first step we have to take is to run away with all the valuable assets we have. If you have the opportunity to change fiat to bitcoin then it would be better if you do that. and then go abroad and while waiting for the conflict to end we may have to survive. And yes, of course we need income even if we are in another country. If we are people who work online from the start then maybe moving countries won't be an obstacle. Because we can still work as long as we have tools and a good internet connection. But if from the start we only rely on manual labor in the real world. So maybe it won't be easy to find work in another country. Unless we have acquaintances and family there.

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Yes, unfortunately most people agree that there are no winners in a War and the people that are suffering the most... are the women and children that are left behind. (When elephants fight, it is the grass that suffers ... African proverb, meaning that the weak get hurt in conflicts between the powerful.)

People in conflict zones has to focus on survival and also protecting their family.... so that should be their primary objective. (Food / Water / Safety)  The other things will become important when you are safe and when your family are fed and healthy.

Tips :

1. Hide you wealth. (Jewelry and things you can sell, when you return to your country)
2. Get away from the conflict zone.
3. Do anything to protect your family
4. Be willing to do any job. (You might have been a company director before the war, but you must be willing to wash dishes to get money)
5. Convert some money into Crypto, because it can help you to transfer your wealth to another country. (Bitcoin has no borders)




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I hate wars. I hate conflicts. Both they are almost unavailable. Wars and conflicts disrupts lives. It kills people - men, women, babies. Businesses are shot down. Schools are shot down. Boys become father's and look after their moms and siblings because their father has gone to war. Daughters become mothers and have to care for their siblings because they lose their mothers to war. Children with perfectly normal lives become refugees
I think nobody else like war neither. There is always a propelling force that inflict war in any nation. It could be economic crisis like: religion crisis, nationalism or land disputs. These factors can gradually becomes big war and causes affliction on individual which renders many homeless, fatherless, motherless and all that. So there is a need to always put things in other by a country to avoid war because it's never a good thing.

- do you have any survival tips during war period?
I think I have not witnessed a serious war rather protest

- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as it sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
As for physical business I think it's inpossible because where there is war there is also no business. And even if you do it would not be like as usual. Except is an online business. Maybe probably I'd you are on signature campegn I think it would save you alot from financial issues.

- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
Am afraid the only economic impact it will cause is fear and hypertension and alwaysay have that  war trauma in your head and becomes angry whenever you remember how your loved ones died.

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November 21, 2023, 04:47:37 PM
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When war is going on, the first thing I will think about is the safety of myself and my family. And as the OP said, we won't even have time to make careful plans if war suddenly breaks out. But at least we must know the indications before the war. So that we can make preparations when we have noticed and received indications.

When war want to happen and you see it on the news, then there is chances it might not happen, peace will be kept at all cost to avoid casualties on both side but the ones don't see are the ones that use to happen. People don't really give a shit about Palestine and Isreal and until one person made an attack that kills hundreds and thousands, that was when I even knew about the pre war and the current status of the genocide that has been happening between these two countries.

The bad part of this war is that both affected citizens of Isreal and Palestine will never remain in good side of history again. If you are rich before war, the high chance of maintaining that status is low when war happen except if your business isnot in that country or perhaps your are into online business and investments that are not associated with the country, war is not good for any man kind. Cry

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If we are in a conflict area, maybe the first step we have to take is to run away with all the valuable assets we have. If you have the opportunity to change fiat to bitcoin then it would be better if you do that. and then go abroad and while waiting for the conflict to end we may have to survive. And yes, of course we need income even if we are in another country. If we are people who work online from the start then maybe moving countries won't be an obstacle. Because we can still work as long as we have tools and a good internet connection. But if from the start we only rely on manual labor in the real world. So maybe it won't be easy to find work in another country. Unless we have acquaintances and family there.

If we are in a war, nothing is as important as life, I will never trade it for anything. My first priority is to make sure that I'm healthy and alive and if there is possibility of living the country, I will do that asap because only when I have life I will come back to check my properties and I confident that nothing will touch it because many people will also be running for their life as well. I will not stay and die for a war that wasn't started by me and it will not end with me neither.

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War is a heartbreaking word. There are two ways for a man to survive in wartime. A state can replace another theory by moving its people out of a war zone. If the state does not have such a situation, if the war takes a terrible shape, then the people should join the war for that country and survive. You cannot think of business where your life is not guaranteed. But yes if the war situation stops then if you save Bitcoin then you can plan with it later which will serve you and your family. In general, when a war starts in a country, a thought in the mind of the people of that country is "how long will I live"!

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But also the option of "running away from war" - as for me, a citizen of Ukraine, where the war came in 2014 with an attack from Russia, this approach is not acceptable. If we all "go where there is no war" - what will happen to my country ? Capture and destruction. Then this trouble will come to the place where we decided to run away. And so on to the sad ending.
Avoiding a problem doesn't solve it, it only makes it worse. Therefore, in a situation when your country has become a victim of aggression - running away is not the most logical option, although it solves the problem for a while.
I can agree with a slightly different option - if life is not comfortable or does not work out in a given house, neighborhood, city, town, region, country - it is probably worth finding a more convenient place to realize your plans. This is normal.

Let's apply a similar formula to Gaza and Israel, Hamas is fighting for their rights and free Palestine is their only requirement so why we still call them terrorists instead of warriors?

Reality is always different and sometimes truth doesn't even shine when there is power and shine is on the other side so the practical thing is make sure you are always on the side where power lies or just move to somewhere then you life will remain.

PS Regarding the fact that the EU buys Russian oil rather than sponsoring terrorism - I partially agree. But there are nuances here - it is a forced measure, before the final decision to change suppliers. Moreover, the EU has adopted a package of laws limiting the income of the terrorist country by introducing price caps on transactions with this "commodity".
Why just limit the deals, just stop all the trade with Russia, and say we are always on the good side, no the government don't really care about the good or bad all they care about is what they need and who got it.









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But also the option of "running away from war" - as for me, a citizen of Ukraine, where the war came in 2014 with an attack from Russia, this approach is not acceptable. If we all "go where there is no war" - what will happen to my country ? Capture and destruction. Then this trouble will come to the place where we decided to run away. And so on to the sad ending.
Avoiding a problem doesn't solve it, it only makes it worse. Therefore, in a situation when your country has become a victim of aggression - running away is not the most logical option, although it solves the problem for a while.
I can agree with a slightly different option - if life is not comfortable or does not work out in a given house, neighborhood, city, town, region, country - it is probably worth finding a more convenient place to realize your plans. This is normal.

Let's apply a similar formula to Gaza and Israel, Hamas is fighting for their rights and free Palestine is their only requirement so why we still call them terrorists instead of warriors?

On October 7, Hamas from the Gaza Strip fired from 2.5 to 5 thousand rockets into Israel, simply shooting at civilian settlements. More than 2,500 militants then invaded Israeli territory, including border kibbutzim and the city of Sderot, by land, sea and air. About 1,200 Israelis were killed. The attackers indiscriminately killed civilians, killing hundreds of unarmed participants in a music festival near the border with the Gaza Strip, and taking another 242 hostages. In addition to the massacre of Israeli civilians, there have been cases of sexual violence against Israeli women.
The issue is now being resolved with a temporary truce and mutual fuel supplies for the release of 50 women and children whom the attackers took hostage.

It is hardly worth calling such actions a struggle for independence, and calling the attackers warriors. These are ordinary terrorists who chose civilians of another state as the target of their attacks and decided to frighten Israel with terrorist attacks and blackmail them with hostages. At the same time, it was their stupid fatal mistake, since after this the Hamas group will most likely be defeated and cease to exist. The Palestinians will quickly create their own state without the participation of Hamas.

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But also the option of "running away from war" - as for me, a citizen of Ukraine, where the war came in 2014 with an attack from Russia, this approach is not acceptable. If we all "go where there is no war" - what will happen to my country ? Capture and destruction. Then this trouble will come to the place where we decided to run away. And so on to the sad ending.
Avoiding a problem doesn't solve it, it only makes it worse. Therefore, in a situation when your country has become a victim of aggression - running away is not the most logical option, although it solves the problem for a while.
I can agree with a slightly different option - if life is not comfortable or does not work out in a given house, neighborhood, city, town, region, country - it is probably worth finding a more convenient place to realize your plans. This is normal.

Let's apply a similar formula to Gaza and Israel, Hamas is fighting for their rights and free Palestine is their only requirement so why we still call them terrorists instead of warriors?

On October 7, Hamas from the Gaza Strip fired from 2.5 to 5 thousand rockets into Israel, simply shooting at civilian settlements. More than 2,500 militants then invaded Israeli territory, including border kibbutzim and the city of Sderot, by land, sea and air. About 1,200 Israelis were killed. The attackers indiscriminately killed civilians, killing hundreds of unarmed participants in a music festival near the border with the Gaza Strip, and taking another 242 hostages. In addition to the massacre of Israeli civilians, there have been cases of sexual violence against Israeli women.
The issue is now being resolved with a temporary truce and mutual fuel supplies for the release of 50 women and children whom the attackers took hostage.

It is hardly worth calling such actions a struggle for independence, and calling the attackers warriors. These are ordinary terrorists who chose civilians of another state as the target of their attacks and decided to frighten Israel with terrorist attacks and blackmail them with hostages. At the same time, it was their stupid fatal mistake, since after this the Hamas group will most likely be defeated and cease to exist. The Palestinians will quickly create their own state without the participation of Hamas.

You can't erase the conflict and history between these two states based on just one incident, I am not saying what Hamas did was right to Israeli civilians but what Israel government retaliate with? Bombarded residential buildings, hospitals, and religious destinations, cut down the basic necessities of food, water, and fuel supply for weeks which is justifiable according to your opinion?

Even UN condemned what Israel did also terrorism and killed way more than what Hamas did so can we declare the Israel government as terrorist organization too?












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November 24, 2023, 08:20:00 AM
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In general, when a war starts in a country, a thought in the mind of the people of that country is "how long will I live"!

and that is the first and correct thing. However, if God wants us to be safe and our family members, of course we have to plan it because the post-war recovery process takes a long time, starting from people and infrastructure, the government has to fix it. So, if you have some savings, either BTC or fiat, it will help a little for us and our family at that time.

BTC is also a good option as an asset.

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War is a heartbreaking word. There are two ways for a man to survive in wartime. A state can replace another theory by moving its people out of a war zone. If the state does not have such a situation, if the war takes a terrible shape, then the people should join the war for that country and survive. You cannot think of business where your life is not guaranteed. But yes if the war situation stops then if you save Bitcoin then you can plan with it later which will serve you and your family. In general, when a war starts in a country, a thought in the mind of the people of that country is "how long will I live"!

When there is a war in a country then one cannot think about earning money or saving money because everyone is in Struggle to save their lives. During war either you will be a part of war or if government can control the war through army then I think they should provide another save environment to their citizens. Bitcoin investment is necessary just for living a satisfied life and it has no concerned with war. Although it can be happen that due to war if resources reduces in a country then you can use your bitcoin investment for managing life expenses.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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You can't erase the conflict and history between these two states based on just one incident, I am not saying what Hamas did was right to Israeli civilians but what Israel government retaliate with? Bombarded residential buildings, hospitals, and religious destinations, cut down the basic necessities of food, water, and fuel supply for weeks which is justifiable according to your opinion?

Even UN condemned what Israel did also terrorism and killed way more than what Hamas did so can we declare the Israel government as terrorist organization too?

Any political, military or other organization, before attacking another state, must take into account that there will be a response and there will be a retaliatory military strike. Hamas in this case was located in hospitals, kindergartens, its offices were in civilian multi-story buildings, that is, it is obvious that this organization deliberately hid behind civilians and Hamas leaders did not care deeply about the residents of the Gaza Strip. But Israel has the right to self-defense; in retaliatory military actions, civilians are dying and will always die. If you do not respond to such terrorist attacks, fearing that the civilian population of the attacking side will die, then the terrorists will take this into account and will constantly hide behind civilians. And then what? Let terrorists do what they want and rule the world?

Enlighten us on what the Israeli military should have done to get rid of Hamas terrorist attacks without killing civilians in Gaza?

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You can't erase the conflict and history between these two states based on just one incident, I am not saying what Hamas did was right to Israeli civilians but what Israel government retaliate with? Bombarded residential buildings, hospitals, and religious destinations, cut down the basic necessities of food, water, and fuel supply for weeks which is justifiable according to your opinion?

Even UN condemned what Israel did also terrorism and killed way more than what Hamas did so can we declare the Israel government as terrorist organization too?
Yeah this is basically what war is about, one side attacks civilians, so the other side responds the same way, and basically there are evil people in war and there are innocent people in war, and because of what evil people do from the both sides, innocent people in both sides die. That's just reality of war, do you really think that even in Nazi Germany time, which could be arguably the most clear "yes we need to start war and it's a justified war" situation in history, there was absolutely zero innocent people killed?

I mean that war was as justified as it could ever be, you are attacking a killing machine who murdered everyone on its path, so you had to stop them, and waged war against them, and yet even in that there were innocent people killed by allies. So this is why we need to remember that if it's avoidable, we should avoid war at all costs, unless there is absolutely no other possible choice left, you have to be forced to go into a war, otherwise it's never good.
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War is a heartbreaking word. There are two ways for a man to survive in wartime. A state can replace another theory by moving its people out of a war zone. If the state does not have such a situation, if the war takes a terrible shape, then the people should join the war for that country and survive. You cannot think of business where your life is not guaranteed. But yes if the war situation stops then if you save Bitcoin then you can plan with it later which will serve you and your family. In general, when a war starts in a country, a thought in the mind of the people of that country is "how long will I live"!

When there is a war in a country then one cannot think about earning money or saving money because everyone is in Struggle to save their lives. During war either you will be a part of war or if government can control the war through army then I think they should provide another save environment to their citizens. Bitcoin investment is necessary just for living a satisfied life and it has no concerned with war. Although it can be happen that due to war if resources reduces in a country then you can use your bitcoin investment for managing life expenses.

I do not understand how the concept is to invest in bitcoin to manage your life when there is a war in the country you live in, honestly you are true that when the war occurs then what is definitely done is everyone will prioritize his safety first, even wealth can no longer be valuable When war occurs in your place.

Logically everyone will divert their assets to assets that are easy to liquidate and their value is fairly strong during the war, this might be more logic, unless the place you live in is not a war area, it can be done.
But if you speak clearly and have the opportunity to move to other countries, I think it's better to move to the situation and start a business or work in another country to maintain your life than risking lives, but that is not for people who have a nationalist soul, but There is no harm in you who want to be safe.

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November 24, 2023, 06:19:19 PM
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I mean that war was as justified as it could ever be, you are attacking a killing machine who murdered everyone on its path, so you had to stop them, and waged war against them, and yet even in that there were innocent people killed by allies. So this is why we need to remember that if it's avoidable, we should avoid war at all costs, unless there is absolutely no other possible choice left, you have to be forced to go into a war, otherwise it's never good.

Every story has two sides but what we in the media all over the world is one side of it because Gaza people don't even have electricity to worry about other things, still yet to manage to capture the attacks of Israel against the Gaza people via social media. And to be honest Israel seemed to wait for such movement from Hamas so they could attack and destroy Gaza for a very long time.









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November 26, 2023, 06:46:38 AM
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And to be honest Israel seemed to wait for such movement from Hamas so they could attack and destroy Gaza for a very long time.

Almost the same thing began to be said in Russia, when after two months of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, even without the provision of serious Western weapons to Ukraine, the “second army of the world” had to urgently flee from the central and northern regions of Ukraine in order not to be completely defeated by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. After this, Russian propagandists began to say that Ukraine was pretending to be weak and thereby provoked an attack on it by Russia. A very interesting theory.

Any current potential aggressor must understand that if a neighbor is attacked, the international community will unite its efforts to help the victim of aggression. Only in this way can the aggressor be discouraged from starting wars of conquest. Military aggression is always aggression if the attack occurs on foreign territory and there can be no justification here.

Hamas will in any case regret its stupid and brutal attack on Israeli populated areas. In fact, Russia will also do this over time.

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I hate wars. I hate conflicts. Both they are almost unavailable. Wars and conflicts disrupts lives. It kills people - men, women, babies. Businesses are shot down. Schools are shot down. Boys become father's and look after their moms and siblings because their father has gone to war. Daughters become mothers and have to care for their siblings because they lose their mothers to war. Children with perfectly normal lives become refugees

Wars and conflicts doesn't give you the time to plan. It happens fast and it happens suddenly. It comes with a huge economic cost. And for us in the cryptocurrency, we are not exempted too. If you are a miner, your mining operation is affected because if you are caught up in the conflict, you have to abandon it and flee so that you do not get killed.

I am deeply saddened by these wars. I am not taking sides because there are human causalities in both sides.

- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.

Very few people here, unless they live in a conflict zone, will have any appreciation or useful tips for "survival" during a period of war. War is also not the same, there are all sorts of varieties - two equal peer countries engaged in combat will suffer much more equally than a rebel insurgency trying to overthrow an established government. Business is also dynamic and it's impossible to say what would be good or bad, plus you may not want to be seen as profiteering during these time periods when people are literally dying to defend your freedom - the government might seize any businesses it perceives are too greedy for the war effort. Again, the economic impacts will vary too widely, a country in Africa might have different priorities - just getting water for example - than a country like Ukraine that is still trying to prosper.

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November 26, 2023, 10:09:00 AM
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I hate wars. I hate conflicts. Both they are almost unavailable. Wars and conflicts disrupts lives. It kills people - men, women, babies. Businesses are shot down. Schools are shot down. Boys become father's and look after their moms and siblings because their father has gone to war. Daughters become mothers and have to care for their siblings because they lose their mothers to war. Children with perfectly normal lives become refugees
There's nothing good about war and even the war lords know about this. I read that after the Nigerian civil war, many people were still persuading Odumegwu Ojukwu, the Biafra veteran war lord to initiate another war. But Ojukwu answered them that if there is war, it is not only human that suffers. Both plants, animals, air, water and even spirits suffer. So there's no need for another war.

Even the soldiers sent for war, many of them go to such mission against their wish. All human needs peaceful coexistence.

I am deeply saddened by these wars. I am not taking sides because there are human causalities in both sides.
Some will see you as a coward but honestly, war is not the best solution to solving conflicts but then we must expect wars. It must not be of weapons and arms, it could be an economic war as we have witnessed recently.

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- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.


My heartfelt sympathy to the people in your country, for the ugly experience of war, I've not experienced war myself, but the horrible tales of it from older folks who expanded it, is not what I ever look forward to witnessing.

In the time of war, I believe that it's how to stay alive that should be our Paramount concern, not really about a business to do. I also believe that in situations of war, food and health care are provided for citizens, your family can survive on that till things improve, also if you can find a way to leave the country with your family, better. As you're into bitcoin, if you're lucky to still have internet connection and a smart phone in your hand, then the best thing is to continue trading or accumulating bitcoin, to hold. It is decentralized, so when the experience of war is over, you can sale, convert to fiat of your choice and start all over.

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- do you have any survival tips during war period?

There is no universal advice... it depends on whether you live in the city or in the countryside, and what kind of group you are surrounded by, whether you have weapons, there are many factors that can influence decision-making in difficult moments. If you are not a fighter maybe you can decide to run, but even running is not simple in many ways! Except you need money for wherever you are going it can be very hard to leave behind everything you built over the years, and not only you, but maybe your entire heritage.

- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?

Of course, people need to eat, drive, and have fun... My father took me to smuggle gasoline, food, different house accessories, and of course cigarettes. But that was on some small scale just to survive... But the government and people connected with that made zillions in that time. You don't pay taxes, it's all cash... and people without moral compass had other ways of making even more money. And that money needs to be spent in some restaurants, parties, and singers who are singing national songs are in demand, big one. All in all, it's a circus, but as long as we live we find a way to survive.

- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.

Well, I was in two wars and I grew up in a real mess... I guess I didn't understand many things back then, young and crazy, how else to understand the wish to have more to feel more? Now when I have kids it's a different perspective, but like any parent, when things become hard I will try to find a way and I will probably do whatever I need to keep my family safe.

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Wars are started and wars are ended by a few countries and a few people in the world and a few countries in the world. Many countries cannot refrain from war even if they want to because they have nothing to do.
Many countries continue to be anti-war because of regional and geographical interests and colonial politics so that if war exists among them, they can also profit. Because of this many times war does not end

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November 26, 2023, 11:14:37 PM
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Wars are started and wars are ended by a few countries and a few people in the world and a few countries in the world. Many countries cannot refrain from war even if they want to because they have nothing to do.
Many countries continue to be anti-war because of regional and geographical interests and colonial politics so that if war exists among them, they can also profit. Because of this many times war does not end

some countries are also obviously much powerful than others in terms of military and economical powers it’s devastating because instead of helping or showing a stand, some countries tend to just step aside and watch things unfold if the war has no direct impact on the country especially if a much powerful country, one that also helps the lesser powerful countries, is involved they might not want to upset the powerful country and risk losing their connection

people are dying from wars but politics is politics and countries will always take a stand based on what they will gain or what they will lose

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November 26, 2023, 11:44:50 PM
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I hate wars. I hate conflicts. Both they are almost unavailable. Wars and conflicts disrupts lives.
No one likes wars, not even the soldiers at the frontline.
War is like a parasite with tentacles that drains the living day light out of everything it touches. It doesn’t benefit anyone or any side to the story, yet you find this conflict situations existing within us.
Being prone to anger, means you could be prone to conflict and war. It’s a part of our human existence and one that can end humanity.

War ends in minutes the civilization that has taken a lifetime to build, it reduces nations to rubbles and holds nothing back on its path to destruction.
My heart goes to those having to endure this process at the time and hope the rest of our world do the most they could to support every side. Every fighting side is a victim and a part to humanity. War is the real enemy here and not the people at war with themselves. Let’s our coexist and know that we share this world together and we need ourselves to survive.

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Wars are started and wars are ended by a few countries and a few people in the world and a few countries in the world. Many countries cannot refrain from war even if they want to because they have nothing to do.
Many countries continue to be anti-war because of regional and geographical interests and colonial politics so that if war exists among them, they can also profit. Because of this many times war does not end

some countries are also obviously much powerful than others in terms of military and economical powers it’s devastating because instead of helping or showing a stand, some countries tend to just step aside and watch things unfold if the war has no direct impact on the country especially if a much powerful country, one that also helps the lesser powerful countries, is involved they might not want to upset the powerful country and risk losing their connection

people are dying from wars but politics is politics and countries will always take a stand based on what they will gain or what they will lose
this is true because country also needs to mantain the resource that they have in the right place, I think there's many reasons why some countries out there decide to mind their own business for various purposes.
honestly when it comes to economic implications I think we can agree with the fact that inflation does increase a lot these days that it decreasing our buying powers.
not to mention the worsening housing market thats just simply unaffordable for people and keep in mind that having a house to live in, basically a shelter is basic needs.
can't really grow when half of our money goes to rent, it will be great if the wars could eventually be ended, lifting off a burden from the world economic is always a good thing but we know things are complicated.

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December 04, 2023, 02:20:26 PM
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Wars are started and wars are ended by a few countries and a few people in the world and a few countries in the world. Many countries cannot refrain from war even if they want to because they have nothing to do.
Many countries continue to be anti-war because of regional and geographical interests and colonial politics so that if war exists among them, they can also profit. Because of this many times war does not end
Apparently, in order for there to be no wars or significantly fewer of them, states must agree with existing borders and not try to change them by force. Now, for example, Venezuela suddenly remembered that more than a hundred years ago, a significant part of the current territory of Guyana belonged to Venezuela and they intend to take it back by military means. Although the real reason for this possible war is the discovery of large oil deposits in this disputed territory. Apparently, human nature is such that he will always fight with his neighbors until humanity itself perishes.

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I wonder how you can think about business when there's a war in your country.

Most of countries will use their armed forces to handle it, but if they lack of participants, they will force their civilians especially 18+ years old men to join in war and they also open for volunteers. The country will give a support about foods, place to sleep, and weapon, while the women and kids will stay in the most safest place.

So when there's a tension in your country, it's better to fly to other country. Don't too late because civilians will not able to escape except you have a duty to escape.

War is inevitable because there are few organizations that earn profit during war e.g. weapon seller.
War wouldn't stop you from needing food, shelter, and all the other stuff you need to keep you and your family safe and fulfilled. It's not wrong for OP to ask for such things especially since I see him as a family man who's at a crossroads right now, although I don't really know which country he's residing in and all that stuff.

In any case, unfortunately I don't know of any business you could make while you're at war, only after the war has finally cleared and the aftermath is laid bare. You ever watched Lord of War? if you do then you might know what I'm already referring to, although I propose a way more ethical approach to this situation. You could set a joint effort/campaign with your neighbors and eventually your country, to pick these weapons from the ground, melt them and reuse the metals for infrastructure and rebuilding. I don't know how viable this approach is so you guys might want to correct me if ever, but I see this as the only feasible way you can make profit within arms length of a war, while still retaining your morals and probably even helping your country rebuild.

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December 04, 2023, 03:05:32 PM
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Unless you already live inside a warzone, you should ask about ways to prevent war instead of trying to think about ways of surviving it. NOW is the time for prevention since war hasn't broken out in 99% of the world.

There are two main ways of doing that:
1. Kicking any idiot in the government who is a warmonger or is stupidly taking steps that is going to lead to conflict out of office. This is specifically important for countries who are or have elected people who are not really politicians and have no clue what they are doing. Best example is Ukraine that had a celebrity as president who pushed their country into war.

2. Increasing military defensive strength to discourage any foreign force from thinking of starting any kind of conflict. That requires more budget allocation, and most importantly strategic alliances specifically with neighbors while avoiding far away players that seek their own interests at the cost of destroying your country such as what United States has been doing to other countries around the world.

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December 04, 2023, 03:15:31 PM
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I wonder how you can think about business when there's a war in your country.

Most of countries will use their armed forces to handle it, but if they lack of participants, they will force their civilians especially 18+ years old men to join in war and they also open for volunteers. The country will give a support about foods, place to sleep, and weapon, while the women and kids will stay in the most safest place.

So when there's a tension in your country, it's better to fly to other country. Don't too late because civilians will not able to escape except you have a duty to escape.

War is inevitable because there are few organizations that earn profit during war e.g. weapon seller.
War wouldn't stop you from needing food, shelter, and all the other stuff you need to keep you and your family safe and fulfilled. It's not wrong for OP to ask for such things especially since I see him as a family man who's at a crossroads right now, although I don't really know which country he's residing in and all that stuff.

In any case, unfortunately I don't know of any business you could make while you're at war, only after the war has finally cleared and the aftermath is laid bare. You ever watched Lord of War? if you do then you might know what I'm already referring to, although I propose a way more ethical approach to this situation. You could set a joint effort/campaign with your neighbors and eventually your country, to pick these weapons from the ground, melt them and reuse the metals for infrastructure and rebuilding. I don't know how viable this approach is so you guys might want to correct me if ever, but I see this as the only feasible way you can make profit within arms length of a war, while still retaining your morals and probably even helping your country rebuild.

You have to wait for the war to be over for rebuilding to start. Sometimes the government will take this as an opportunity to change the system of owning land on the ground zero.

While the war is going on, hard to find an easy money-making job you can do when you are on the ground but because people have to eat and live normally, I guess dairy products from milk to butter and bread as its a necessity for everyone. And at the same time, you can feed your family too.



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December 04, 2023, 04:20:20 PM
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Unless you already live inside a warzone, you should ask about ways to prevent war instead of trying to think about ways of surviving it. NOW is the time for prevention since war hasn't broken out in 99% of the world.

There are two main ways of doing that:
1. Kicking any idiot in the government who is a warmonger or is stupidly taking steps that is going to lead to conflict out of office. This is specifically important for countries who are or have elected people who are not really politicians and have no clue what they are doing. Best example is Ukraine that had a celebrity as president who pushed their country into war.

2. Increasing military defensive strength to discourage any foreign force from thinking of starting any kind of conflict. That requires more budget allocation, and most importantly strategic alliances specifically with neighbors while avoiding far away players that seek their own interests at the cost of destroying your country such as what United States has been doing to other countries around the world.

Very good answer, hard to disagree !
It is only necessary to add that the first point refers to the residents of the country of the potential AGGRESSOR. And it is in their hands not to allow war to break out.

The second point is perfectly correct, and is confirmed by modern practice. The "ideal example" is Ukraine, where the pro-Russian President Yanukovych, during his term of office, did everything to extremely weaken the armed forces of Ukraine, demoralize the forces, deprive them of the necessary reserves to wage a defensive war.... The result you know - 2014, Russia's terrorist attack on Ukraine, and this terrorist war continues for the 10th year....

I would also add point 3: Joining economic and military-political alliances like NATO. Any aggressor is afraid of POWER and RESPONSE. As you know from history, there has never been a single case of a crazed aggressor attacking a country with greater military, technological, and economic potential. The peculiarity of bastard regimes is meanness and cowardice, so they attack only countries that are guaranteed to be unable to resist.

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December 04, 2023, 09:07:32 PM
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The second point is perfectly correct, and is confirmed by modern practice. The "ideal example" is Ukraine, where the pro-Russian President Yanukovych, during his term of office, did everything to extremely weaken the armed forces of Ukraine, demoralize the forces, deprive them of the necessary reserves to wage a defensive war.... The result you know - 2014, Russia's terrorist attack on Ukraine, and this terrorist war continues for the 10th year....
Yes, the last (to this day) legitimate president of Ukraine Yanukovych killed no one. Pro-American junta leader Zelensky killed or mutilated over 1 million people. Can you feel the difference?

You start making things up again - the war started in February 2022 not in 2014.  
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December 05, 2023, 07:03:49 AM
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The second point is perfectly correct, and is confirmed by modern practice. The "ideal example" is Ukraine, where the pro-Russian President Yanukovych, during his term of office, did everything to extremely weaken the armed forces of Ukraine, demoralize the forces, deprive them of the necessary reserves to wage a defensive war.... The result you know - 2014, Russia's terrorist attack on Ukraine, and this terrorist war continues for the 10th year....
Yes, the last (to this day) legitimate president of Ukraine Yanukovych killed no one. Pro-American junta leader Zelensky killed or mutilated over 1 million people. Can you feel the difference?

You start making things up again - the war started in February 2022 not in 2014.  
73.22% of voters in Ukraine voted for Zelensky in the 2019 elections, and international observers confirmed the free will of Ukrainians in the presidential elections in the country. Therefore, Zelensky is a completely legitimate president.

Yanukovych betrayed Ukraine and, at the instigation of Putin, refused to sign an association agreement between Ukraine and the European Union, and when people came to the main square of Kiev to express their protest, he ordered shooting at unarmed people and killed 104 protesters, whom the people later nicknamed the “heavenly hundred.” When after this the protesters in the square announced that they would storm the Yanukovych administration, he fled from Ukraine to Russia, where he remains to this day. Courts in Ukraine sentenced former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych to 13 years in prison for high treason and complicity in Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine.

Ukraine, with President Zelensky, is now defending itself from a military invasion of its territory by Russians, and at the same time, not a million, but over 300 thousand Russian occupiers have been killed and maimed. If they continue to attack Ukraine with weapons in their hands, then perhaps this figure will increase to a million.

Russia captured the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea, as well as parts of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions in 2014, and since that time its troops have been conducting military operations to seize the entire territory of Ukraine. Therefore, Russia’s war of aggression has been going on for ten years.

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December 05, 2023, 10:36:52 AM
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It would be better if we avoid war zones or zones that are indicated to soon become conflict zones. Because when war and conflict break out there is not much we can do other than survive and protect our families. When war is going on, the economy will be paralyzed in that area. So any economic planning will not work there. I would probably prefer to find a way to evacuate all my family to safety. And start a new life in another area. Maybe it's not easy. Because even evacuating seems like many people have bad luck. But if the situation doesn't allow you to run, then fighting is the best. Because we cannot just remain silent when we see people near us being attacked. But even though war may make us confused and panicked. But we have to keep thinking rationally and make smart steps. But I hope you OP are not in a war or conflict zone. I hope you can get out of the zone closest to the conflict zone. Because we don't know whether the war will spread or not. Having advance preparation is much better.

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The second point is perfectly correct, and is confirmed by modern practice. The "ideal example" is Ukraine, where the pro-Russian President Yanukovych, during his term of office, did everything to extremely weaken the armed forces of Ukraine, demoralize the forces, deprive them of the necessary reserves to wage a defensive war.... The result you know - 2014, Russia's terrorist attack on Ukraine, and this terrorist war continues for the 10th year....
Yes, the last (to this day) legitimate president of Ukraine Yanukovych killed no one. Pro-American junta leader Zelensky killed or mutilated over 1 million people. Can you feel the difference?

You start making things up again - the war started in February 2022 not in 2014.  

Did you forget to take your anti-halucenogenic again ? Smiley

Just in case - the so-called "legitimate president Yanukovych" cowardly ran away from the country, leaving his post, ceasing to fulfill his obligations, after he organized a bloodbath in the capital of the country, in the central square of the city. Including with the help of attracted "helpers" from the country of terrorist - Russia. Tell everyone again about his legitimacy ? Smiley

2022 is interesting - don't forget to tell the psychiatric board, Smiley
Just a reminder - the invasion of the terrorist country Russia in Ukraine began in 2014, with the occupation of Crimea, and the introduction of troops into the Lunan and Donetsk regions of Ukraine, immediately after the cowardly flight of Yanukovych.

PS You should take some sclerosis pills, give your doctor my recommendations Smiley

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I would also add point 3: Joining economic and military-political alliances like NATO.
NATO is purely an American tool which I wouldn't even call an alliance and its purpose is only one thing: a military proxy to counter Russia. It is not to protect NATO members, it is only to protect US.

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As you know from history, there has never been a single case of a crazed aggressor attacking a country with greater military, technological, and economic potential.
The "biggest" member of NATO is being attacked every day. USS carney is back to Djibouti port for repairs again after yesterday's attack Smiley

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Exactly. This is why United States has only attacked disarmed and extremely weak countries like the disarmed Iraq, the cavemen controlled Afghanistan, etc.

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I would also add point 3: Joining economic and military-political alliances like NATO.
NATO is purely an American tool which I wouldn't even call an alliance and its purpose is only one thing: a military proxy to counter Russia. It is not to protect NATO members, it is only to protect US.

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As you know from history, there has never been a single case of a crazed aggressor attacking a country with greater military, technological, and economic potential.
The "biggest" member of NATO is being attacked every day. USS carney is back to Djibouti port for repairs again after yesterday's attack Smiley

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Exactly. This is why United States has only attacked disarmed and extremely weak countries like the disarmed Iraq, the cavemen controlled Afghanistan, etc.

1. Wrong opinion! If you study history, NATO was created after the Second World War ended, the USSR occupied the countries of Eastern Europe, placing its troops there. NATO was created with a very specific purpose: to protect the freedom and security of all its member states through political and military means. Collective defense is central to the Alliance and creates a spirit of solidarity and cohesion among its members.
Since the risks of further escalation of the USSR to the West were very high, which the USSR had stated earlier. It is enough to study what the International is, the ideas of which were promoted from Lenin to Stalin. And there were absolutely no hidden goals - the occupation of Europe and other continents by the communist regime.
Well, if you study history, you will also find out that most of the NATO confrontation had nothing to do with the USSR/RF.
And as a fact, I can name a lot of examples where the USSR captured and occupied foreign territories, but you cannot give a single example where the United States, using NATO, annexed foreign territory.

2. You are confusing small terrorists, consumables, whom puppet masters throw at some US facilities. I was talking about a full-fledged military invasion. Don't confuse these two different entities.

3. You are again confusing operations agreed upon by the international community to restore order and destroy bastard, criminal, terrorist regimes that pose a danger to both their neighbors and the whole world. And the vile terrorist attacks from the near future are an attack by Russia on small Georgia, or on the same small Moldova, or, for example, on Ukraine, which is many times, obviously weaker and smaller. This is provided that none of the listed countries pose a threat to Russia or their neighbors.

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Yes, the last (to this day) legitimate president of Ukraine Yanukovych killed no one. Pro-American junta leader Zelensky killed or mutilated over 1 million people. Can you feel the difference?

I wonder what arguments you have that Ukrainian President Zelensky killed one million people?
Meanwhile, Putin has indeed already killed even more than a million people, both Ukrainians and Russians, unleashing one of the most brutal wars in Ukraine. During the “direct line” on December 14, he admitted that the irretrievable losses of Russian troops in Ukraine amount to more than 300 thousand people. This is how you need to destroy your people for the sake of your imperial ambitions to forcibly recreate the new USSR. But after all, Putin’s efforts lead to the exact opposite result. It is likely that in a few years we will be able to observe how great Russia will disintegrate into separate independent republics, the central power of which was maintained only by the repression of the security forces.

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Yes, the last (to this day) legitimate president of Ukraine Yanukovych killed no one. Pro-American junta leader Zelensky killed or mutilated over 1 million people. Can you feel the difference?

I wonder what arguments you have that Ukrainian President Zelensky killed one million people?
Meanwhile, Putin has indeed already killed even more than a million people, both Ukrainians and Russians, unleashing one of the most brutal wars in Ukraine. During the “direct line” on December 14, he admitted that the irretrievable losses of Russian troops in Ukraine amount to more than 300 thousand people. This is how you need to destroy your people for the sake of your imperial ambitions to forcibly recreate the new USSR. But after all, Putin’s efforts lead to the exact opposite result. It is likely that in a few years we will be able to observe how great Russia will disintegrate into separate independent republics, the central power of which was maintained only by the repression of the security forces.

This is the most blatant, shameless, retarded lie I've read on this forum this year. Could you provide the quote by Putin saying this with a source? I already know the answer and the answer is NO. Simply because he didn't say that. I already rebutted this lie in another thread but you keep posting this crap all around the forum?  Grin

Regarding Zelensky, he is guilty of killing so many innocent people and hundreds of thousands of AFU soldiers in this useless war. Ukraine can't win a war against Russia, it's a suicide. A president who cares about his country has to stop the war. Forget about Crimea and Donbas. They're lost for good. Just stop the war and save peoples lives ffs.

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Any war provides excellent enrichment for some, and utter ruin or destruction for others. War is used to justify price increases, hunger, unemployment and other terrible economic consequences. Personally, I think that any war is very bad.
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I hate wars. I hate conflicts. Both they are almost unavailable. Wars and conflicts disrupts lives. It kills people - men, women, babies. Businesses are shot down. Schools are shot down. Boys become father's and look after their moms and siblings because their father has gone to war. Daughters become mothers and have to care for their siblings because they lose their mothers to war. Children with perfectly normal lives become refugees

Wars and conflicts doesn't give you the time to plan. It happens fast and it happens suddenly. It comes with a huge economic cost. And for us in the cryptocurrency, we are not exempted too. If you are a miner, your mining operation is affected because if you are caught up in the conflict, you have to abandon it and flee so that you do not get killed.

I am deeply saddened by these wars. I am not taking sides because there are human causalities in both sides.

- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
Either we hate it or not we're left no choice to survive unless you are that rich to travel to the safest place of the planet. There really is an economic implications of war on individuals because some elite make money during this time while others are suffering. During war, internet and electricity might be down that time and I don't think in most affected areas can even think of having business or saving and earning in Bitcoin. I think the best thing to do right now is to prepare incase a war broke out because you don't have time to do that on the spot. Prepare for the worst.



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December 22, 2023, 06:47:31 AM
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Regarding Zelensky, he is guilty of killing so many innocent people and hundreds of thousands of AFU soldiers in this useless war. Ukraine can't win a war against Russia, it's a suicide. A president who cares about his country has to stop the war. Forget about Crimea and Donbas. They're lost for good. Just stop the war and save peoples lives ffs.


Stopping the war in your understanding and Putin’s understanding is the complete capitulation of Ukraine with the disappearance of this state from the world map and the forced transformation of Ukrainians into new Russians through blackmail, intimidation, mass deportation to remote areas of Russia, as well as torture and mass physical destruction of the dissatisfied. Ukrainians already went through this as part of the USSR; they already saw the prospect of surrender in Bucha and other de-occupied settlements, where each had special torture chambers and mass graves of killed and tortured civilian and military Ukrainians. Such a stop to the war, after which even more Ukrainians will die, is not for Ukraine.

Ukraine will resist the invasion of the Russians as best it can and has already dispelled the myth of the invincibility of the Russian “second army of the world,” which has been trying to capture the small town of Avdievka for three months now and has so far made little progress in the area of the landfill and industrial zone.

Ukraine will be able to defend its freedom and independence, and Russia will face a sad end.

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Either we hate it or not we're left no choice to survive unless you are that rich to travel to the safest place of the planet. There really is an economic implications of war on individuals because some elite make money during this time while others are suffering. During war, internet and electricity might be down that time and I don't think in most affected areas can even think of having business or saving and earning in Bitcoin. I think the best thing to do right now is to prepare incase a war broke out because you don't have time to do that on the spot. Prepare for the worst.
Being prepared to face the worst consequences of war does not mean having to be willing to stay where the war is, but being prepared, in other words, means being able to move to another, safer place so that every activity we are currently carrying out is not disturbed by war. Any economic sector will continue to be disrupted by war so that there is no way to survive other than moving to another place, although some elite people may be able to earn money through war, but this only depends on a few individuals who we cannot judge in general because generally more people suffer as a result of war.

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Ukraine will resist the invasion of the Russians as best it can and has already dispelled the myth of the invincibility of the Russian “second army of the world,” which has been trying to capture the small town of Avdievka for three months now and has so far made little progress in the area of the landfill and industrial zone.

Ukraine will be able to defend its freedom and independence, and Russia will face a sad end.

I appreciate your sentiments, but the truth can never be denied. War is not the solution to any problem and always the problems are solved through negotiation.No matter how powerful the enemy is, one always defends oneself as much as possible. Ukraine is also resisting strongly, but the fact that Russia is powerful cannot be denied. It does not seem that Russia has used all its power, but there are many factors behind this war which Russia cannot ignore. Both countries have adopted their own policies, but I don't think that Ukraine can defeat Russia.

Freedom is the basic right of every human being and every country and nation, but powerful countries have often been seen to dominate smaller countries by force. This is not only the problem of Ukraine and Russia, there are other countries in the world where the big powers are trying to occupy the weak, in which Palestine and Israel are at the top, India and Kashmir. Everyone is resisting, but the weak is always helpless in front of the strong.









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December 22, 2023, 01:30:31 PM
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War isn't a good and is something no one should wish for, because it affect individual life in so many perspective, the emotional trauma and the economic melt down. Thou many may take advantages considering how severe it is and if the war is your favor by being part of the leading group.

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December 22, 2023, 01:59:21 PM
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Any war provides excellent enrichment for some, and utter ruin or destruction for others. War is used to justify price increases, hunger, unemployment and other terrible economic consequences. Personally, I think that any war is very bad.

A conflict no matter how small always has its negative effects on the environment. A full blown war in any society pauses/stops any development or any activity that is going on. Sadly, there are people who benefits from war and these individuals tend to stoke up conflicts as conflicts and war is “good for business”.
Wars leaves battle scars on both the victor and the vanquished as both sides would have lost men and resources in fighting a war.
In a war, both sides suffer economic hardships and both parties are set back.
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War has quite a large and quite serious impact on individual economies. And this can also have an impact on our daily lives. war may increase the cost of living because the price of goods may rise. This is due to disruptions in the supply chain, increased production costs, and economic uncertainty which can cause the price of goods to increase many times over.

Apart from that, war can also affect employment. Sometimes, war can lead to job cuts as some businesses may be forced to close or reduce their activities. Because war could cause economic activity to be hampered, so some companies might reduce the number of jobs and close recruitment of new employees for a while, until economic activity returns to normal and product demand increases again.

War can also affect savings and investments. Currency values may be affected, and investments such as shares or assets may experience significant fluctuations. This could make individuals feel hesitant about investing or saving money due to the economic uncertainty associated with the war. So, to keep our assets safe, we have to be more careful in sorting and choosing the type of investment.

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Those who survived in the war are the real heroes and those who died at the war are the legends. In a war situation, there are many things out in place. There is restriction of movement, restriction of social gatherings, and moon light play must stopped and other benefits of life movement will be stopped. Running and hiding are also part to survive in a war time. If anyone can do any of those things to survive then there is no problem. Because it is not everybody will face the gunshots. In a war time, everyone is a victim. Like why is happening in Russia and Ukraine is affecting people in Nigeria because there are some business transaction that would have taken place but because if the way those business have stopped and likewise to Israel and Palestine.

In a way time internal businesses are destroyed and that is one the weapon used by some group to stop their opponents. They would block all the channels that supply food to their opponents camps and side. And when food is not sent to those areas then, the war would end. But in a war period, the advance countries used that time to make money. But supplying things to the two opposing sides.









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War isn't a good and is something no one should wish for, because it affect individual life in so many perspective, the emotional trauma and the economic melt down. Thou many may take advantages considering how severe it is and if the war is your favor by being part of the leading group.
What can be profitable in war conditions are the weapons providers or weapons suppliers to both parties because for each shipment of weapons there will definitely be a reward that will be received by that party. Whether it's in the form of money or other things that might be very useful for him, apart from that, I don't think there is any party that benefits enough, including the party that won the war. Because the side that won the war also experienced destruction, such as their own infrastructure and their people were also not free to carry out their usual activities.
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The economic implications of war on  individuals are just too numerous. War puts everyone on hold, businesses, churches,
mosques and other religious organisations  collapse, governments tremble and all other institutions of value remain  shut down.  War reduces the purchasing power of individuals to zero, they can barely afford anything on their own and they  begin to live at the mercy of the government or charity organisations. These is because, war destabilises the individuals,  making them  unable to work or do business that will fetch them money to fend for themselves and their families (if they still have). The only thing of priority becomes how to stay safe. War is indeed a very terrible thing to happen to anyone or a group.

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Ukraine will be able to defend its freedom and independence, and Russia will face a sad end.
You are completely delusional. Perhaps you don't realize it yet but Ukraine has already lost the war. As a retired colonel you should understand that. Well, unless you were lying of course (I bet you were).  Grin 

I appreciate your sentiments, but the truth can never be denied. Both countries have adopted their own policies, but I don't think that Ukraine can defeat Russia.

Everyone is resisting, but the weak is always helpless in front of the strong.
Exactly, every sane person with above the room temperature IQ understands that. Well, except for trolls that is.
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Yes, the last (to this day) legitimate president of Ukraine Yanukovych killed no one. Pro-American junta leader Zelensky killed or mutilated over 1 million people. Can you feel the difference?

I wonder what arguments you have that Ukrainian President Zelensky killed one million people?
Meanwhile, Putin has indeed already killed even more than a million people, both Ukrainians and Russians, unleashing one of the most brutal wars in Ukraine. During the “direct line” on December 14, he admitted that the irretrievable losses of Russian troops in Ukraine amount to more than 300 thousand people. This is how you need to destroy your people for the sake of your imperial ambitions to forcibly recreate the new USSR. But after all, Putin’s efforts lead to the exact opposite result. It is likely that in a few years we will be able to observe how great Russia will disintegrate into separate independent republics, the central power of which was maintained only by the repression of the security forces.

This is the most blatant, shameless, retarded lie I've read on this forum this year. Could you provide the quote by Putin saying this with a source? I already know the answer and the answer is NO. Simply because he didn't say that. I already rebutted this lie in another thread but you keep posting this crap all around the forum?  Grin
Putin during the "Direct Line" on December 14 did not directly nam the losses of the Russian army in their attempt to seize Ukraine. However, these losses are easy to calculate from what they were published.

So, according to Putin, the number of Russian group is now reaching 617 thousand people, of which 244 thousand mobilized fights at the front. In the war there are also 486 thousand volunteers who, on their own initiative, signed a contract.

By the time of the military invasion of Russia in Ukraine, the group was 250 thousand people.

At the same time, 41 thousand mobilized were fired due to age, that is, this amount does not apply to losses.

If out of 617 thousand of the composition of the Russian army, subtract all the above categories of war participants and add 41 thousand those who were sent back to Russia by age, the number of irrevocable losses of the Russian Federation in the war with Ukraine will be about 322 thousand soldiers.

The irretrievable losses include the dead and the wounded. As for the losses of private military companies, then, according to Putin, according to Russian law, they do not exist, therefore it is impossible to count. Therefore, the real figure of Russian losses is much higher.

Sources:
https://apostrophe.ua/news/world/2023-12-14/putin-na-pryamoy-linii-progovorilsya-poteryah-rossiyan-v-voyne-skolko-priehalo-iz-ukraini/31 0356

A link to Putin’s video about the loss of the army, including as follows from Russia itself

https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=8yLnRE1qOlUz8Xyt&v=sEgw2OrqWTo&feature=youtu.be

https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=vybaCgXko_J27wkR&v=OGpR9WU6RB0&feature=youtu.be

Closed to these figures is evaluated by the losses of Russians and American intelligence, indicating that Russia has already lost 315 thousand of its troops in Ukraine.

According to official data from the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the irretrievable losses of Russians in Ukraine amount to 351,350 military personnel.

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December 23, 2023, 11:43:12 AM
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Conflict most times doesn't translate into war as conflicts most times are disagreements that can be settled and when not properly settled it degenerates into war.

War on its own is total breakdown of everything including law, order & Economy. When it happens, people think only about their safety first before anything and aftermath is always devastating. Even after war people still think about survival not economy or investment.
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December 23, 2023, 03:21:03 PM
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- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
I don't know how do I answer these questions. Because there are no right answer to them. Survival tips? Like what create a bunker? Maybe that will be the best choice but if you have the chance to escape, then you should do it. And when it comes to using money or something else for businesses during war is illogical. When everything is in chaos, how can people use money to buy and sell goods? All you can do is survive at any cost. If possible, take shelter. You can save in Bitcoin for future usage but what if you are not alive to use that in the future?

The impact will not be individual rather it will be for everyone. The military power are fighting with each other and the normal people are suffering. There are no clear method to overcome this until the war is over. If you are caught in a war, all you should do and focus is on survival.
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War's a long, ugly shadow hanging over us all, a constant reminder that even at our best, we can be real knuckleheads. Politicians might play power games with it, but the bill comes due for the rest of us – lives shattered, futures left in smoke. It's enough to make you wanna curl up in a bunker and wait for the apocalypse, but that ain't the answer.

Look at Ukraine and the Middle East, still bleeding from the wounds of conflict. We can't control the warmongers in their ivory towers, but we can damn sure control how prepared we are when the storm hits. Instead of throwing our hands up and accepting war as some inevitable fact of life, let's get smart, get trained, and get ready to weather the chaos.

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War is indeed a very heartbreaking period. Thousands of people lose their lives.  I never like war. War never brings anything good. And during war it is very challenging to keep your family alive because then you will have money but no goods to spend that money in your country.  When war breaks out, everyone should stock up on water and dry food at home because food is scarce in war-torn countries.  So everyone should stock up on high protein food. And save money though I think wartime money doesn't do any good.

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War's a long, ugly shadow hanging over us all, a constant reminder that even at our best, we can be real knuckleheads. Politicians might play power games with it, but the bill comes due for the rest of us – lives shattered, futures left in smoke. It's enough to make you wanna curl up in a bunker and wait for the apocalypse, but that ain't the answer.

Look at Ukraine and the Middle East, still bleeding from the wounds of conflict. We can't control the warmongers in their ivory towers, but we can damn sure control how prepared we are when the storm hits. Instead of throwing our hands up and accepting war as some inevitable fact of life, let's get smart, get trained, and get ready to weather the chaos.
However, if anyone still prioritizes rationality, they will always avoid war, but sometimes society can be different from political elites who feel they have a mandate to act with what they have to do anything for the sake of something that can sometimes be unreasonable.very much agree, because the impact that occurred was not thought through carefully, resulting in destruction that was very irrelevant to the ego that was desired for the war to occur.
Looking at the current wars, we can be sure that this is due to intentions that are sometimes not and are not necessarily liked by society but must be carried out by political elites for the purpose of power, which clearly may not necessarily provide benefits to society in general; in fact, it may even be detrimental, but society cannot do anything

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The human cost, the shattered lives, the gaping wounds inflicted on families and communities – it's a tragedy that defies comprehension. In the face of such suffering, prayer feels like the least we can do, a silent offering of hope and solidarity across the miles.

Money, in that crucible of chaos, loses its seductive charm. It transforms from a tool of ambition to a mere instrument of survival, a meager offering to secure a loaf of bread, a warm blanket, a flicker of hope. In the face of bombs and bullets, the worth of a bitcoin pales in comparison to the worth of a breath, a heartbeat, a child's laughter echoing through the rubble.

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The human cost, the shattered lives, the gaping wounds inflicted on families and communities – it's a tragedy that defies comprehension. In the face of such suffering, prayer feels like the least we can do, a silent offering of hope and solidarity across the miles.

Money, in that crucible of chaos, loses its seductive charm. It transforms from a tool of ambition to a mere instrument of survival, a meager offering to secure a loaf of bread, a warm blanket, a flicker of hope. In the face of bombs and bullets, the worth of a bitcoin pales in comparison to the worth of a breath, a heartbeat, a child's laughter echoing through the rubble.

War is a terrible disease. It slowly but surely destroys everything around it. And here we must realize that "soft methods" will not provide a cure. Only the destruction of the carriers of this contagion is the only solution to the problem. The disease cannot be "negotiated" or "frozen". The disease will continue to kill, or accumulate forces for further killing. And the more the world will "squirm in place" inventing "peaceful methods", the disease will continue to destroy the world - countries, lives, economies, businesses, everything that has been created. 

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War isn't a good and is something no one should wish for, because it affect individual life in so many perspective, the emotional trauma and the economic melt down. Thou many may take advantages considering how severe it is and if the war is your favor by being part of the leading group.
What can be profitable in war conditions are the weapons providers or weapons suppliers to both parties because for each shipment of weapons there will definitely be a reward that will be received by that party. Whether it's in the form of money or other things that might be very useful for him, apart from that, I don't think there is any party that benefits enough, including the party that won the war. Because the side that won the war also experienced destruction, such as their own infrastructure and their people were also not free to carry out their usual activities.
Despite of that disadvantage you said from the trouble makers, they won't still stop. I think it's also about the satisfaction that they can get when they saw the other party suffer. They think they are powerful.

I'm not sure if there will be a regret that they will feel at the end. We can only wish or pray for the safety of everyone. It's mostly in the hands of our leaders (governments). But, I think we can also help in our own little ways like by paying our taxes properly. As I think they can also allocate some of it, on building and improving their defenses. Just in case an unexpected attack from the other greedy and power hungry countries will happen.

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What can be profitable in war conditions are the weapons providers or weapons suppliers to both parties because for each shipment of weapons there will definitely be a reward that will be received by that party. Whether it's in the form of money or other things that might be very useful for him, apart from that, I don't think there is any party that benefits enough, including the party that won the war. Because the side that won the war also experienced destruction, such as their own infrastructure and their people were also not free to carry out their usual activities.

That's right, wherever there is conflict that is their market, Yes. War always provides a breath of fresh air for entrepreneurs engaged in military equipment and equipment, especially if the duration is long and continuous, where the demand for weapons will always come from the conflicting parties, it cannot be avoided. The impact is very serious, namely suffering, displacement and disappearance. lives that occur in war zones, even if victory requires enormous time and costs in the rebuilding and recovery process.

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War is indeed a very heartbreaking period. Thousands of people lose their lives.  I never like war. War never brings anything good. And during war it is very challenging to keep your family alive because then you will have money but no goods to spend that money in your country.  When war breaks out, everyone should stock up on water and dry food at home because food is scarce in war-torn countries.  So everyone should stock up on high protein food. And save money though I think wartime money doesn't do any good.
War is completely useless, instead there will be an economic crisis and a humanitarian crisis, just look at the example of what happened in the war between Israel and Palestine. The scale of this war is astonishing, a terrible waste of life, all caused by a human being with an ego.

Of course, in times of war, money is useless, let alone thinking about investment, the internet is difficult. We can only think about saving ourselves and our families from war. If we are not in a place where there is conflict, of course we need to prepare funds to invest because usually when there is a war the global economy also slumps.
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War's a long, ugly shadow hanging over us all, a constant reminder that even at our best, we can be real knuckleheads. Politicians might play power games with it, but the bill comes due for the rest of us – lives shattered, futures left in smoke. It's enough to make you wanna curl up in a bunker and wait for the apocalypse, but that ain't the answer.

Look at Ukraine and the Middle East, still bleeding from the wounds of conflict. We can't control the warmongers in their ivory towers, but we can damn sure control how prepared we are when the storm hits. Instead of throwing our hands up and accepting war as some inevitable fact of life, let's get smart, get trained, and get ready to weather the chaos.
However, if anyone still prioritizes rationality, they will always avoid war, but sometimes society can be different from political elites who feel they have a mandate to act with what they have to do anything for the sake of something that can sometimes be unreasonable.very much agree, because the impact that occurred was not thought through carefully, resulting in destruction that was very irrelevant to the ego that was desired for the war to occur.
Looking at the current wars, we can be sure that this is due to intentions that are sometimes not and are not necessarily liked by society but must be carried out by political elites for the purpose of power, which clearly may not necessarily provide benefits to society in general; in fact, it may even be detrimental, but society cannot do anything
We recognize the discrepancy between reason and wartime political elite behavior. Power plays rule this theater, where rationality is secondary. Wars, historically and today, are chess games for political elites that leave society in disarray. In their strategic bubbles, decision-makers occasionally miss reality. We must admit that wars are usually fought for power, territory, or ideology, not the people. This blatant disregard for social well-being is a strategic disaster

In the ruthless world of global politics, trust and strong relationships are idealistic. World where allegiances fluctuate like sand dunes. We must constantly question. Why? Diplomacy conceals underlying goals and power rivalries. Trust is fragile and sometimes traded for geopolitical strategy. We may be spectators in this big geopolitical theater, but we must be intelligent, informed, and critical of the narratives presented to us. Peace and rationality come from informed skepticism and continuous questioning of authority

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We recognize the discrepancy between reason and wartime political elite behavior. Power plays rule this theater, where rationality is secondary. Wars, historically and today, are chess games for political elites that leave society in disarray. In their strategic bubbles, decision-makers occasionally miss reality. We must admit that wars are usually fought for power, territory, or ideology, not the people. This blatant disregard for social well-being is a strategic disaster

In the ruthless world of global politics, trust and strong relationships are idealistic. World where allegiances fluctuate like sand dunes. We must constantly question. Why? Diplomacy conceals underlying goals and power rivalries. Trust is fragile and sometimes traded for geopolitical strategy. We may be spectators in this big geopolitical theater, but we must be intelligent, informed, and critical of the narratives presented to us. Peace and rationality come from informed skepticism and continuous questioning of authority
Rationality becoming unimportant is the trouble, we should not be really considering it like that at all, it should not even be remotely a question where we would leave rationality and common sense aside but for some reason we do, and that's the biggest trouble. When you throw rationality and common sense out of the window, there is really nothing that you can't do, people act like cornered animals when in fact they could just stand down and everything will be fine.

The fact of "lets stop" being a "weak political move" is the reason why it's such a trouble. Like can you even imagine Putin going out and saying "ok the war is over, we are going back"? We all know that won't happen, it is impossible, it is not going to happen, and that's the biggest trouble. I have to say it is not going to be an issue and it is going to be a trouble for anyone. I think the best thing to do in this case would be just making sure that we get rid of this situation with as minimal damage as we possible could.

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December 28, 2023, 09:56:18 AM
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The fact of "lets stop" being a "weak political move" is the reason why it's such a trouble. Like can you even imagine Putin going out and saying "ok the war is over, we are going back"? We all know that won't happen, it is impossible, it is not going to happen, and that's the biggest trouble. I have to say it is not going to be an issue and it is going to be a trouble for anyone. I think the best thing to do in this case would be just making sure that we get rid of this situation with as minimal damage as we possible could.
Putin cannot stop the war in Ukraine and withdraw his troops from there for the reason that then he will immediately lose authority both among the elite and ordinary citizens of Russia and, most likely, will be removed or killed. Therefore, already fighting for his life, he will send more and more thousands of mobilized people into the furnace of war. But the mobilized citizens of Russia are not mindless cattle that can be sent to slaughter for a long time. Now, during active assaults on Ukrainian positions, over a thousand Russian occupiers die every day.

After the invasion in February 2022, Russia, according to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, has already lost more than 356,000 of its soldiers and officers, 5,940 tanks, 11,025 armored vehicles, 329 aircraft, 324 helicopters, 8,391 artillery systems, 945 MLRS, 617 air defense systems, 23 ships and boats , as well as other military equipment.

  Russia has a lot of resources, but they also tend to run out. Instead of improving the quality of life in its country, Russia now produces weapons in three shifts, which are destroyed in the war, and the citizens of the country only become poorer, a significant part of them die at the front in Ukraine. Putin can be stopped by food and bloody riots or mass unrest in the regions with the aim of separating from the central government of the Kremlin and creating independent republics. We will be able to see all this already next year, 2024.

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December 28, 2023, 10:41:34 AM
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Putin cannot stop the war in Ukraine and withdraw his troops from there
Why would he want to stop this war if he's winning it?

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Therefore, already fighting for his life, he will send more and more thousands of mobilized people into the furnace of war. But the mobilized citizens of Russia are not mindless cattle that can be sent to slaughter for a long time.
I think we have already come to a conclusion that there are no or very few mobilized troops in Ukraine. Mostly volunteers and professional army.

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Now, during active assaults on Ukrainian positions, over a thousand Russian occupiers die every day.
According to whom? AFU sources? You really expect them to report correct numbers? You must be out of your mind then, colonel. I remember you wrote here on this forum that Russia has lost more than a million already. And AFU losses? Still 0, right? That's why Ukraine has signed that new recruitment law?  Grin

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After the invasion in February 2022, Russia, according to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, has already lost more than 356,000 of its soldiers and officers, 5,940 tanks, 11,025 armored vehicles, 329 aircraft, 324 helicopters, 8,391 artillery systems, 945 MLRS, 617 air defense systems, 23 ships and boats , as well as other military equipment.
Again, according to whom? What are the sources? Ukrainian military? I'm sure that Russians have that many armaments in total, let alone in Ukraine. Grin

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  Russia has a lot of resources, but they also tend to run out. Instead of improving the quality of life in its country, Russia now produces weapons in three shifts, which are destroyed in the war, and the citizens of the country only become poorer, a significant part of them die at the front in Ukraine.
To run out of what? A significant part of 150million is how many people?  Grin

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Putin can be stopped by food and bloody riots or mass unrest in the regions with the aim of separating from the central government of the Kremlin and creating independent republics. We will be able to see all this already next year, 2024.
I'm sure any victim of western propaganda dreams of it. Not gonna happen. In 2024 we are going to see: Trump getting elected as the US president, Ukraine runs out of cannon fodder and NATO help and surrenders (or gets destroyed completely).  Cool
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I feel like I went on a trip to a madhouse, where they show the most mentally ill patients Smiley

And the manifestations are just like in scientific literature on psychiatry - ethereal heroes, fabulous achievements, diametrically opposite statements literally in the "next sentence" ... This also happens from the action of heavy hallucinogenic drugs or drugs that disrupt the worldview. So it is not clear what happened to the author of this nonsense, and what would be a better diagnosis for him !??  

PS I have an assumption that the author still deliberately behaves this way to show himself incompetent and to avoid Putin's collection of expendables all over Russia. After all, Putin said that "there will be no mobilization", and based on the known history, it means one thing - there will be and necessarily  Grin Grin Grin Grin

Although only the mentally damaged and go to realize the painful complexes of the pathetic Fuhrer of Russia Smiley

How is the "Big Airborne Ship Novocherkassk" doing? ? I understand everything is fine there - after all it is located in "the most protected region of Russia", as Putin did not lie again ?! And it is protected by "unparalleled, advanced, unavailable to the West, Russian weapons"  Grin

PS and on the topic - what’s the situation with eggs? Is Putin holding his balls until the elections? Is Kazakhstan feeding “Great Russia”? Smiley

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I feel like I went on a trip to a madhouse, where they show the most mentally ill patients Smiley
Not surprised you feel like that. After all that amount of lies and propaganda around you.

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PS I have an assumption that the author still deliberately behaves this way to show himself incompetent and to avoid Putin's collection of expendables all over Russia. After all, Putin said that "there will be no mobilization", and based on the known history, it means one thing - there will be and necessarily  Grin Grin Grin Grin
As I have already told you many times: I'm not Russian, I don't live in Russia and I have never even visited Russia in my life. Moreover, I'm not rooting for Russia in this war. I'm just being realistic: Ukraine can't win this war. As to you, being retarded won't help you to avoid the frontline as AFU are now recruiting retarded people so chances are, you will soon receive a one-way ticket to Donbas. Btw, why are not there yet? You are not patriotic enough?

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How is the "Big Airborne Ship Novocherkassk" doing? ? I understand everything is fine there - after all it is located in "the most protected region of Russia", as Putin did not lie again ?! And it is protected by "unparalleled, advanced, unavailable to the West, Russian weapons"  Grin
What in the world is "big airborne ship"? Can it fly? Tell me more about this magic ship...  Grin

As to the rest of your comment, no anti-missile defence system is 100% secure. AFU used the tactics Hamas employed against Israel - they shoot as many missiles, drones and shells as they can, overloading the anti-aircraft systems and then they shoot guided rockets which hit the target while the anti-missiles systems are reloading. But no surprise the person with a room temperature IQ is not aware of this tactics.  Grin

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I have no idea, just can tell you that Russians are going to win this war with or without eggs. Btw, I'm not sure why are you so worried about Putin's balls?
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How is the "Big Airborne Ship Novocherkassk" doing? ? I understand everything is fine there - after all it is located in "the most protected region of Russia", as Putin did not lie again ?! And it is protected by "unparalleled, advanced, unavailable to the West, Russian weapons"  Grin

The Ukrainian Defense Forces attacked the Novocherkassk landing ship in the occupied port of Feodosia with two British-French Storm Shadow/SCALP cruise missiles. The port of Feodosia is protected by several S-400 Triumph divisions of the 31st Air Defense Division of the Russian Aerospace Forces, which recently discovered problems with target identification. This time, the S-400 missed two cruise missiles, which were launched from aircraft over the territory of Ukraine and in order to reach Feodosia they had to fly at least 250 km. across the occupied territory of Ukraine. I don’t think that after such incidents, Russian S-400s will be bought by other countries on the international market.

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How is the "Big Airborne Ship Novocherkassk" doing? ? I understand everything is fine there - after all it is located in "the most protected region of Russia", as Putin did not lie again ?! And it is protected by "unparalleled, advanced, unavailable to the West, Russian weapons"  Grin

The Ukrainian Defense Forces attacked the Novocherkassk landing ship in the occupied port of Feodosia with two British-French Storm Shadow/SCALP cruise missiles. The port of Feodosia is protected by several S-400 Triumph divisions of the 31st Air Defense Division of the Russian Aerospace Forces, which recently discovered problems with target identification. This time, the S-400 missed two cruise missiles, which were launched from aircraft over the territory of Ukraine and in order to reach Feodosia they had to fly at least 250 km. across the occupied territory of Ukraine. I don’t think that after such incidents, Russian S-400s will be bought by other countries on the international market.

The loss, or rather the reputational loss of russia's military-industrial complex is one of the biggest problems of the economy. In addition to the lost oil and gas market, where Russia is trying its best to sell these resources for pennies to anyone, the military-industrial complex was actually the third largest in terms of currency turnover, which filled the Russian budget.
And I have a feeling that more money was invested in advertising the products of the military-industrial complex than in the products of the military-industrial complex themselves. The advertised air defense systems, airplanes, tanks looked "unparalleled" exactly until they "proved themselves" in Ukraine. Then it turned out that tanks are ordinary and built on the basis of old Soviet designs, airplanes fly only for shows, and air defense misses ancient Western missiles. And this was immediately reflected by a drop in interest in Russia's fake military-industrial complex, lack of new contracts, and refusal of joint projects. At the same time, Russia "with its own hands" promoted Western weapons, for which "unparalleled tanks" are an easy target, missiles from the 70s easily bypass "unavailable to Western armies" air defenses.... And this process is not reversible

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December 28, 2023, 08:07:19 PM
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even in this forum the propaganda still works and people believe Russia is losing. they already have a huge territory of Ukraine. that's the truth as much as we want to punish Putin, he is winning but let's just say this guy is also fighting for the good of his country/people while the West is also fighting for the good of their people.

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War is inevitable. It gives you limited time to plan. When I think of war, the only thing that comes to mind is the loss of lives and property. When war sets in, you won't even have the mind to think of business, the only thing that comes to mind is how to gather your loved ones to safety.

War has a negative impact on youths and kids who survive it. Most youths are killed, some lose their properties, their wives are been kidnapped, and children go missing. Is a terrible experience that stays in the minds of many, never to forget. No one can offer the best advice to heed during the war except someone who has experienced it.

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even in this forum the propaganda still works and people believe Russia is losing. they already have a huge territory of Ukraine. that's the truth as much as we want to punish Putin, he is winning but let's just say this guy is also fighting for the good of his country/people while the West is also fighting for the good of their people.
The thing is that it doesn't. Hardly anyone else except these two pathetic desperate Ukrainian trolls colonel Argoo and general DrBeer believe in their nonsense. Every single word of what these two bozos are posting is a lie.

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it's not bad versus evil. there is nothing such as that. every side is protecting its interests.
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There have always been wars in the world, this is a constantly repeated situation, I do not support any war, I hope innocent people do not die in wars. There have always been wars in the world. At that time, we should look at the behavior of people. We should learn from the past, for example, during the war years, gold generally increased, and you can leave the currency of your country and invest in limited minerals or digital ones. Usually, one job is not enough for any person in today's conditions, so there should always be a second job plan, otherwise it will be very difficult to get out of it. In the environment factor, there should be people around you that you can trust during an important war.

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- What are the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during the war period?
I understand your frustrations about the war and its consequences and you are right you highlight the important and core results after the end of the war. War is a very aggressive tragedy that occurs and not only one side but also but side suffers the Same to you  consequences. This just not only affects things at that time after several years it's consequences are lasting. The economy of the world goes down and inflation rate increases the supply of things decreases and the value of currency also decreases. War at the time when occurring will only affect those persons or things that come at that place but after the war the economy destroys the backbone, causing child death and many other things. I think those who are stupid and still live in the 17s or 16s will go to war in this advanced era...
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even in this forum the propaganda still works and people believe Russia is losing. they already have a huge territory of Ukraine. that's the truth as much as we want to punish Putin, he is winning but let's just say this guy is also fighting for the good of his country/people while the West is also fighting for the good of their people.
The thing is that it doesn't. Hardly anyone else except these two pathetic desperate Ukrainian trolls colonel Argoo and general DrBeer believe in their nonsense. Every single word of what these two bozos are posting is a lie.

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it's not bad versus evil. there is nothing such as that. every side is protecting its interests.
Bingo!
Let's turn to stubborn facts. On February 24, 2022, eight Russian armies, supported by thousands of tanks and armored vehicles, attacked Ukrainian territory from the north, east and south. The approximate number of occupation troops was about 250 thousand people. They were given the task of arriving near Kyiv in the first half of the same day, and the calculation was to capture Ukraine in three to five days, using the fact of the demonstrative power of the invading occupiers. The threat was indeed great and this was and is recognized in Kyiv. Russian troops landed at the Gostomel airfield near Kiev, and separate groups penetrated into Kyiv itself. Therefore, in addition to the army, the people themselves rose up to fight the occupiers. In Kyiv alone, over 20 thousand machine guns and other weapons were distributed to the population. So what's the result?

Just two months later, in April, the badly battered units of the ROV (Russian occupation army) were forced to flee from the central and northern parts of Ukraine, and since then this territory has remained under the control of Ukraine.

Next, we read on Wikipedia, so that there is no accusation that I am making something up:
“Having concentrated the necessary forces north of Balakleya, Kharkov region, Ukrainian troops went on the offensive in the directions of Balakleya - Volokhov Yar - Shevchenkovo - Kupyansk and in the east of Balakleya, in the areas of Savintsy, Kunye and so on.
On September 11, five days after the start of the counteroffensive, the Russian Ministry of Defense published a map as part of its daily update, according to which Russian troops had lost control over 8,370 square kilometers of the Kharkov region. The front began to pass along the Oskol River and the state Russian-Ukrainian border in the Kharkov region. An attempt by the Russian Armed Forces to organize a new line of defense along the Oskol and Seversky Donets rivers did not lead to success: by the end of September, the Armed Forces of Ukraine established a number of bridgeheads on the other bank of both rivers and developed an offensive in the direction of the Lugansk region...
The defeat of the Russian army near Kharkov led to a radical change in Russian strategy. The Russian Armed Forces have long lacked the resources for successful operations in Ukraine. After the Ukrainian counter-offensive, it became obvious that the Russian Armed Forces were not even able to maintain a passive defense."
It should be added that during the counter-offensive, the Ukrainian Armed Forces captured as many Russian armored vehicles as Ukraine did not receive from all its allies in providing military assistance to it.

Next, we turn again to Wikipedia:
“On November 11, 2022, the Armed Forces of Ukraine, during their counter-offensive, regained control over Kherson. On the same day, the Russian army announced the withdrawal of its forces from the right bank of the Dnieper. At the same time, the press secretary of the Russian President Dmitry Peskov stated that the withdrawal of Russian troops from Kherson “will not change the status of the Kherson region,” the annexation of which was previously announced by the Russian authorities.The Russian authorities announced Genichesk as the temporary administrative capital of the occupied part of the Kherson region.
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Now the Ukrainian Armed Forces have captured several bridgeheads already on the left bank of the Dnieper, which the Russians clearly did not expect, and with their fire they control the entire left bank of Ukraine, right up to the Sea of Azov.
After the Ukrainian Armed Forces destroyed the large landing ship Novocherkassk in the port on December 25 in Feodosia, that is, in the southern part of the occupied Crimean peninsula, the occupiers are withdrawing the remnants of their Black Sea Fleet from Crimea because they do not feel safe there.

What conclusion can we draw from this? Is Russia still winning?

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Let's turn to stubborn facts. On February 24, 2022, eight Russian armies, supported by thousands of tanks and armored vehicles, attacked Ukrainian territory from the north, east and south. The approximate number of occupation troops was about 250 thousand people. They were given the task of arriving near Kyiv in the first half of the same day, and the calculation was to capture Ukraine in three to five days, using the fact of the demonstrative power of the invading occupiers. The threat was indeed great and this was and is recognized in Kyiv. Russian troops landed at the Gostomel airfield near Kiev, and separate groups penetrated into Kyiv itself. Therefore, in addition to the army, the people themselves rose up to fight the occupiers. In Kyiv alone, over 20 thousand machine guns and other weapons were distributed to the population. So what's the result?

What conclusion can we draw from this? Is Russia still winning?
Yes, it most definitely is winning! Ukraine has lost momentum and they are losing atm. Lysychansk, Severodonetsk, Maryinka have been captured by Russians, Avdiivka and Rabotyne/Verbove in the South are in the process of being recaptured too. But the most important thing - Ukraine suffers huge losses, it's army will soon become combat incapable. There is a huge lack of shells, artillery systems, APCs etc. EU/US support had been exhausted.

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And I would advise Serveria.com to be more tolerant of your opponents and not call them idiots and other bad words. Typically this method is used when there are not enough arguments.
What? You are not my opponent. You are a lying troll and will be treated as such. I will give you a few hints on what you should do to stop being a troll and gain some respect:
1. Stop lying. Claims like Russia has lost a million troops since the start of this war are hilarious. Putin is dead is even more laughable. Stop it.
2. Always provide reputable sources to the info you post. If you're saying that "Putin leaked some info on Russian losses" always mention a source with a working link to a reputable source. Ukrainian media is NOT a reputable source during the war. Neither is Russian media. You shouldn't use such media as sources.
3. Stop derailing threads.
4. Stop avoiding/ignoring valid facts presented by other users.

This is just a short list from the top of my head I'm sure there are more points. But start doing it, you will feel the difference, I swear.  Wink 
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I think the economic situation worsens when war breaks out. Now, I am not someone who has experienced a war situation even in a radius of five hundred miles or maybe more but we always keep the news updated and that makes us think that is one hell of an experience. No one can deny the fact that life collapses right in front of our eyes. I mean come on I can't even imagine what to do if my routine is disturbed completely. No schools for kids, where to work, what about the job, the banks and my savings, etc. What happens to that? Considering the fact that the government itself has collapsed, they can't even help me get on my feet so how one can imagine our own life getting back on track anytime soon? Even if it does, it would take me ages to stand back. It's really horrible to digest how it can break down someone from the inside out. Seriously damaging for sure. So whatever economics plays, it's definitely going to be disturbed, and won't be the same. 
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I think the economic situation worsens when war breaks out. Now, I am not someone who has experienced a war situation even in a radius of five hundred miles or maybe more but we always keep the news updated and that makes us think that is one hell of an experience. No one can deny the fact that life collapses right in front of our eyes. I mean come on I can't even imagine what to do if my routine is disturbed completely. No schools for kids, where to work, what about the job, the banks and my savings, etc. What happens to that? Considering the fact that the government itself has collapsed, they can't even help me get on my feet so how one can imagine our own life getting back on track anytime soon? Even if it does, it would take me ages to stand back. It's really horrible to digest how it can break down someone from the inside out. Seriously damaging for sure. So whatever economics plays, it's definitely going to be disturbed, and won't be the same. 
    When people keep promoting war, it's always funny because they really do not know what the entirety of the country would face if such happens. There are lot of adverse effects of war in a country and it really does affect the economy greatly. When there's way, the whole revenue generation would cease, everyone would be made to survive on management and making do with the resources they're able to keep secured during the period of the war which would in no time get exhausted.
    Even the after effect of the war would be bad because now, the nation would have to start all over again and then it'll take them longer time to get to a more balanced stand before being able to forge ahead fully into survival. It’s is easier to destroy but had to build, bouncing back is really a slow ride  it might take years and years to be fit. War as never had any benefit to the people, but rather a mass of destruction.
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Yes, it most definitely is winning! Ukraine has lost momentum and they are losing atm. Lysychansk, Severodonetsk, Maryinka have been captured by Russians, Avdiivka and Rabotyne/Verbove in the South are in the process of being recaptured too. But the most important thing - Ukraine suffers huge losses, it's army will soon become combat incapable. There is a huge lack of shells, artillery systems, APCs etc. EU/US support had been exhausted.

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And I would advise Serveria.com to be more tolerant of your opponents and not call them idiots and other bad words. Typically this method is used when there are not enough arguments.
What? You are not my opponent. You are a lying troll and will be treated as such. I will give you a few hints on what you should do to stop being a troll and gain some respect:
1. Stop lying. Claims like Russia has lost a million troops since the start of this war are hilarious. Putin is dead is even more laughable. Stop it.
2. Always provide reputable sources to the info you post. If you're saying that "Putin leaked some info on Russian losses" always mention a source with a working link to a reputable source. Ukrainian media is NOT a reputable source during the war. Neither is Russian media. You shouldn't use such media as sources.
 
Well, let's see how you follow your own recommendations. Write, Marinka has been captured by the Russians, and Avdeevka and Raboche/Verbovo in the south are in the process of being recaptured? Where is the link to authoritative sources, otherwise I have a little different information? Which countries’ sources are generally authoritative for you? What about European countries, England, USA? Or maybe we will now consider as trustworthy what is written in Iran, North Korea, and African countries?

Do you find my statements that Russia has already lost about a million of its soldiers and officers killed and wounded funny? What do you think are the real losses in Russia?

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I feel like I went on a trip to a madhouse, where they show the most mentally ill patients Smiley
Not surprised you feel like that. After all that amount of lies and propaganda around you.

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PS I have an assumption that the author still deliberately behaves this way to show himself incompetent and to avoid Putin's collection of expendables all over Russia. After all, Putin said that "there will be no mobilization", and based on the known history, it means one thing - there will be and necessarily  Grin Grin Grin Grin
As I have already told you many times: I'm not Russian, I don't live in Russia and I have never even visited Russia in my life. Moreover, I'm not rooting for Russia in this war. I'm just being realistic: Ukraine can't win this war. As to you, being retarded won't help you to avoid the frontline as AFU are now recruiting retarded people so chances are, you will soon receive a one-way ticket to Donbas. Btw, why are not there yet? You are not patriotic enough?

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How is the "Big Airborne Ship Novocherkassk" doing? ? I understand everything is fine there - after all it is located in "the most protected region of Russia", as Putin did not lie again ?! And it is protected by "unparalleled, advanced, unavailable to the West, Russian weapons"  Grin
What in the world is "big airborne ship"? Can it fly? Tell me more about this magic ship...  Grin

As to the rest of your comment, no anti-missile defence system is 100% secure. AFU used the tactics Hamas employed against Israel - they shoot as many missiles, drones and shells as they can, overloading the anti-aircraft systems and then they shoot guided rockets which hit the target while the anti-missiles systems are reloading. But no surprise the person with a room temperature IQ is not aware of this tactics.  Grin

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PS and on the topic - what’s the situation with eggs? Is Putin holding his balls until the elections? Is Kazakhstan feeding “Great Russia”? Smiley
I have no idea, just can tell you that Russians are going to win this war with or without eggs. Btw, I'm not sure why are you so worried about Putin's balls?




1. The only country that is built on total lies is your Russia ! So don't attribute your problems to me Smiley
It is enough to listen to the OFFICIAL channels. For example yesterday these Russian cesspool mouths told you that it was not peaceful Ukrainian cities that were shelled, but "decision making facilities".  These "objects" include an apartment building in Odessa, a warehouse of a retail chain in Kiev, a shopping center in Dnipro, a maternity hospital in Zaporozhye.... Russia is ONE FALSE ! that's why you are hysterically afraid of the TRUTH !
2. You see - you lie again ! You can live on Mars, but you are a Russian Smiley Being a Russian is not about geography, it is a mental deviation when you live lies, anti-human values, rejoice in murder and war, support bastard bloody regimes !
3. Oh, I found something to "pick on". Well translated the wrong word, English is not my native language. You tell me in essence - how is there "minor damage" ? Smiley
4. Yes, i.e. 2 (two) missiles are an unacceptable load for "the most protected and impregnable region of Russia" (according to Putin, an international criminal). And here, too, you can feel that someone is lying - either Putin, or you, or both of you Smiley
By the way, there were a lot of conscripts on this ship (and Putin as always honestly said that conscripts will not serve in combat units), and now there is a wild hysteria in Russia, trying to hide the information on the number of victims on this ship. Parents of the victims are told that "everything is fine, everyone is alive and on duty".
5. So far Russians are winning only a war against themselves - poverty degradation, economic collapse, the status of despicable outcasts of this world, death, disease, moral decay ....

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I hate wars. I hate conflicts. Both they are almost unavailable. Wars and conflicts disrupts lives. It kills people - men, women, babies. Businesses are shot down. Schools are shot down. Boys become father's and look after their moms and siblings because their father has gone to war. Daughters become mothers and have to care for their siblings because they lose their mothers to war. Children with perfectly normal lives become refugees

Wars and conflicts doesn't give you the time to plan. It happens fast and it happens suddenly. It comes with a huge economic cost. And for us in the cryptocurrency, we are not exempted too. If you are a miner, your mining operation is affected because if you are caught up in the conflict, you have to abandon it and flee so that you do not get killed.

I am deeply saddened by these wars. I am not taking sides because there are human causalities in both sides.

- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
I don't fully understand this. But in my current environment as a village person here, most of us grow crops (farming) even though prices are always changing and even not selling well in the market, at least we and our families can eat it and even share it with local residents who want to take it. So if it is possible to make money and even save money, we do it. And if not, at least we can utilize it. (All we do with makeshift facilities, and many alternatives that we use)
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Yes, it most definitely is winning! Ukraine has lost momentum and they are losing atm. Lysychansk, Severodonetsk, Maryinka have been captured by Russians, Avdiivka and Rabotyne/Verbove in the South are in the process of being recaptured too. But the most important thing - Ukraine suffers huge losses, it's army will soon become combat incapable. There is a huge lack of shells, artillery systems, APCs etc. EU/US support had been exhausted.

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And I would advise Serveria.com to be more tolerant of your opponents and not call them idiots and other bad words. Typically this method is used when there are not enough arguments.
What? You are not my opponent. You are a lying troll and will be treated as such. I will give you a few hints on what you should do to stop being a troll and gain some respect:
1. Stop lying. Claims like Russia has lost a million troops since the start of this war are hilarious. Putin is dead is even more laughable. Stop it.
2. Always provide reputable sources to the info you post. If you're saying that "Putin leaked some info on Russian losses" always mention a source with a working link to a reputable source. Ukrainian media is NOT a reputable source during the war. Neither is Russian media. You shouldn't use such media as sources.
 
Well, let's see how you follow your own recommendations. Write, Marinka has been captured by the Russians, and Avdeevka and Raboche/Verbovo in the south are in the process of being recaptured? Where is the link to authoritative sources, otherwise I have a little different information? Which countries’ sources are generally authoritative for you? What about European countries, England, USA? Or maybe we will now consider as trustworthy what is written in Iran, North Korea, and African countries?
Muahahaha! And you want respect? After such retarded claims? Colonel Argoo, you're not retarded, you're BRAINDEAD!

Let's see, your own officials confirmed it: 

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Ukraine war: Russia captures key town near Donetsk

The Ukrainian military initially denied the Russian claim and Ukrainian military bloggers reported that Ukrainian troops were holding out in a small area of western Mariinka.

But speaking during a news conference on Tuesday, the commander of Ukrainian Armed Forces, Gen Valerii Zaluzhnyi confirmed that Ukrainian troops had withdrawn.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67820916

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Zaluzhny: Ukrainian Armed Forces will lose Avdiivka within 2-3 months The Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU), General Valeriy Zaluzhny, confirmed at a briefing that Marinka is completely occupied by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, and Ukrainian troops no longer control this territory.

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Avdiivka could soon fall, says Som, primarily a function of the Russians’ superior firepower. "They have ten times as much materiel as we do,” he says, "and 20, if not 30-times as many shells.” The Ukrainians are suffering from a shortage of ammunition for their mortars and artillery, he adds. "In many cases, we are unable to return fire.”

Troop losses have also been heavy, the Ukrainian commander says. Of the 100 soldiers his company once had, he is now sometimes only able to send 15 into battle. Some have been killed, others wounded – and still others are simply too exhausted to fight. "It’s a similar story with all the units here,” says Som.

Source: https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/the-fizzled-counteroffensive-fears-grow-of-a-stalemate-on-the-front-in-ukraine-a-e27e00b8-c0a0-4d18-ba33-e6f612ce8973

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Ukrainian military observer Kostyantyn Mashovets noted that units of the 7th and 76th Airborne Russian Divisions have managed to regain lost positions in the area over the past two to three days and have pushed Ukrainian forces out of some positions north and west of Verbovoye (east of Robotyne).

Source: https://ria-m.tv/ua/news/339000/na_melitopolskomu_napryamku_rosiyani_namagayutsya_nivelyuvati_litni_uspihi_zsu_chi_vdastsya_im_tse_(foto).html

OMG what a clown you are! Grin Grin Grin

I ask myself a question: why are you doing this? Reality won't change, you have to accept it! Why do you always lie?

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Do you find my statements that Russia has already lost about a million of its soldiers and officers killed and wounded funny? What do you think are the real losses in Russia?
Well, your own AFU report 350.000 losses and you personally three times more? No, it's not funny. Not at all.  Grin Grin Grin
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December 30, 2023, 06:44:50 PM
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even in this forum the propaganda still works and people believe Russia is losing. they already have a huge territory of Ukraine. that's the truth as much as we want to punish Putin, he is winning but let's just say this guy is also fighting for the good of his country/people while the West is also fighting for the good of their people.

it's not bad versus evil. there is nothing such as that. every side is protecting its interests.

It's not a matter of propaganda. The fact is that not everyone likes the truth Smiley For example, I am a resident of Ukraine who has seen all this since 2014. Putin is simply a crazy, pathetic fuhrer who imagines himself to be the arbiter of destinies or even a god. But like everything in Russia and his fantasies, this is a fake. More than half of what terrorist Russia captured in Ukraine in 2022 has already been returned to the management and control of Ukraine. But these small villages, which the “second army of the world” captures over the course of 6-9-12 months, at the cost of indescribable sacrifices of their own soldiers, who simply bombard the defensive lines of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

I’ll just send you this link, and you can look in the chronology at how the frontline line has changed.
https://deepstatemap.live/#6/47.953/27.576


I also recommend going to Bakhmut, Avdeevka and similar hot sections of the front, and see how many corpses of Russian soldiers are still lying there, useless to anyone, neither Russia nor Putin...
When the “second army of the world” took Bakhmut for almost a year, there was such a stench of rotting flesh that our soldiers’ eyes watered, because many kilometers in front of them were covered with the corpses of Russians, whom the madman Putin threw to slaughter, only for the sake of realizing his painful fantasies.

And now you can observe the same thing - meat assaults, wave after wave, 24*7, for months... At the same time, the level of motivation in the Russian army has dropped significantly, many already understand that they are just cannon fodder, and there are no real reasons to fight in Ukraine. Although at the beginning of 2022 I spoke with Russian prisoners of war, they said in all seriousness that we have only Nazis here, we kill Russian speakers, drink their blood Smiley This is called propaganda, which corrodes the brain.

Regarding the motivation of the Ukrainians, we understand perfectly well that Russia’s goal is simply to destroy us, so we will not allow this, we have something to protect, we have something to protect, the truth is on our side, which means we will win. Yes, at a great cost, but we will definitely win.

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Muahahaha! And you want respect? After such retarded claims? Colonel Argoo, you're not retarded, you're BRAINDEAD!

Let's see, your own officials confirmed it: 

Which one of us is brain dead? Above you write that you need to refer only to authoritative sources of information, and that they cannot be Ukrainian and Russian sources. And here, in order to support your information about the surrender of the Armed Forces of Marinka, you refer to Ukrainian sources and the words of Ukrainian officials. What, when will it be beneficial for us to link, and when is it not beneficial for us not to link?

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It's not a matter of propaganda. The fact is that not everyone likes the truth Smiley
So true! Not everyone likes the truth! You don't like truth yourself! Trolls hate truth! That's why your posts are 100% lies!

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For example, I am a resident of Ukraine who has seen all this since 2014. Putin is simply a crazy, pathetic fuhrer who imagines himself to be the arbiter of destinies or even a god. But like everything in Russia and his fantasies, this is a fake. More than half of what terrorist Russia captured in Ukraine in 2022 has already been returned to the management and control of Ukraine. But these small villages, which the “second army of the world” captures over the course of 6-9-12 months, at the cost of indescribable sacrifices of their own soldiers, who simply bombard the defensive lines of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

I’ll just send you this link, and you can look in the chronology at how the frontline line has changed.
https://deepstatemap.live/#6/47.953/27.576
Firstly, Russia didn't capture any territories in 2022 near Kiev or anywhere in the north (Sumi, Kharkiv etc). There were just tank columns heading to capture Kiev (you can even check your own "map" these territories are only marked as occupied partly, mostly along the roads). When their initial plan failed, they withdrew and that was it. There was very little fighting going on, but Ukrainians are trying to present it as "great success" as always.

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I also recommend going to Bakhmut, Avdeevka and similar hot sections of the front, and see how many corpses of Russian soldiers are still lying there, useless to anyone, neither Russia nor Putin...
When the “second army of the world” took Bakhmut for almost a year, there was such a stench of rotting flesh that our soldiers’ eyes watered, because many kilometers in front of them were covered with the corpses of Russians, whom the madman Putin threw to slaughter, only for the sake of realizing his painful fantasies.
How can you recommend something you've never done yourself? Have you been there? No. Were there only Russian dead bodies? Russian dead bodies smell differently?  Grin Grin Grin Here's a nic pic, perhaps it will open your eyes on reality and "zero losses":

 

Wake up, your media is lying to you!

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And now you can observe the same thing - meat assaults, wave after wave, 24*7, for months... At the same time, the level of motivation in the Russian army has dropped significantly, many already understand that they are just cannon fodder, and there are no real reasons to fight in Ukraine. Although at the beginning of 2022 I spoke with Russian prisoners of war, they said in all seriousness that we have only Nazis here, we kill Russian speakers, drink their blood Smiley This is called propaganda, which corrodes the brain.
Ukrainians are very well known for killing, mutilating, torturing Russian POVs. So they will tell you anything you want to hear. That's normal. And propaganda indeed damages your brain. You are a great example of it.  Grin

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Regarding the motivation of the Ukrainians, we understand perfectly well that Russia’s goal is simply to destroy us, so we will not allow this, we have something to protect, we have something to protect, the truth is on our side, which means we will win. Yes, at a great cost, but we will definitely win.
Delusional. You can't win a global nuclear superpower. Either you lose or the whole world loses.
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1. The problem is that you are very confused, being a classic consumer of propaganda Smiley And you think that what you are NICE to hear is true, but you deny everything that does not satisfy your minimal mental needs Smiley This is not my problem, let your psychiatrist think about how to solve it Smiley
2. “Firstly, Russia in 2022 did not capture any territories either near Kiev or anywhere in the north (Sumy, Kharkov, etc.)” - hmm... Are you feeling good now? It’s just that when your brain is removed, you shouldn’t feel very good Smiley But I can’t imagine any other options, or rather reasons for such nonsense Smiley

The suburbs of Kyiv were captured, and they even entered Kyiv - the battles took place on “Victory Avenue” as well. But after this breakthrough, the “non-existent and backward Armed Forces of Ukraine” defeated the elite strike units of the terrorist country and destroyed all units in Kiev and the Kiev region, right up to the northern outskirts (to the borders with Belarus and Russia), and after preparation, destroyed the hordes of terrorists who occupied a significant part Kharkov region. Then there was a southern direction, where the “second army of the world” ran at wild speed, leaving behind a brown-bloody liquid trail Smiley)))

3. Regarding the rules of warfare. Ukraine is doing everything to take the bodies of its dead soldiers, from sorties to exchanging for living terrorists of the Russian army. There may be some options. But Russia is not at all worried about its citizens, who can no longer be “meat”. They actually lie in the fields, the Russian army itself destroys the corpses of its soldiers in order to commit fraud with payments, etc. Besides the fact that I saw it myself, there is also a lot of information and investigations. Cowardice, lies, meanness - these are the spiritual values of the Russian world, including in relation to its citizens.

4. By publishing photos from cemeteries where Ukrainian defenders and fighters against global terrorism and racism are buried, what are you trying to convey? I know that in this terrorist war unleashed by Russia, many defenders died. This is a fact, no one denies it. It was they who gave their lives to destroy hordes of terrorists from Russia.
Better look at the cemeteries, or rather the heaps in giant fields, where the corpses of terrorist soldiers are simply quietly buried, all over Russia.

5. The only media that lies is Russian media and those who live on Russian handouts Smiley

6. “Global nuclear superpower” is a global global mega-fake Smiley We recently listened to a fairy tale about “2-3 weeks, and the second army of the world will reach the borders of Poland.” Now this army no longer exists, they are urgently recruiting meat all over Russia to try to shower us with meat Smiley I heard a screech - “we will launch a nuclear strike” - and? Smiley Putin understands perfectly well that having used even tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine, his fate will end after the first detonation of a tactical nuclear charge Smiley Russia is stupid, vile, cowardly, wretched, a terrorist country. And she will be defeated!


PS This is what terrorist burials in Russia look like:








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1. The problem is that you are very confused, being a classic consumer of propaganda Smiley And you think that what you are NICE to hear is true, but you deny everything that does not satisfy your minimal mental needs Smiley This is not my problem, let your psychiatrist think about how to solve it Smiley
2. “Firstly, Russia in 2022 did not capture any territories either near Kiev or anywhere in the north (Sumy, Kharkov, etc.)” - hmm... Are you feeling good now? It’s just that when your brain is removed, you shouldn’t feel very good Smiley But I can’t imagine any other options, or rather reasons for such nonsense Smiley

The suburbs of Kyiv were captured, and they even entered Kyiv - the battles took place on “Victory Avenue” as well. But after this breakthrough, the “non-existent and backward Armed Forces of Ukraine” defeated the elite strike units of the terrorist country and destroyed all units in Kiev and the Kiev region, right up to the northern outskirts (to the borders with Belarus and Russia), and after preparation, destroyed the hordes of terrorists who occupied a significant part Kharkov region. Then there was a southern direction, where the “second army of the world” ran at wild speed, leaving behind a brown-bloody liquid trail Smiley)))

3. Regarding the rules of warfare. Ukraine is doing everything to take the bodies of its dead soldiers, from sorties to exchanging for living terrorists of the Russian army. There may be some options. But Russia is not at all worried about its citizens, who can no longer be “meat”. They actually lie in the fields, the Russian army itself destroys the corpses of its soldiers in order to commit fraud with payments, etc. Besides the fact that I saw it myself, there is also a lot of information and investigations. Cowardice, lies, meanness - these are the spiritual values of the Russian world, including in relation to its citizens.

4. By publishing photos from cemeteries where Ukrainian defenders and fighters against global terrorism and racism are buried, what are you trying to convey? I know that in this terrorist war unleashed by Russia, many defenders died. This is a fact, no one denies it. It was they who gave their lives to destroy hordes of terrorists from Russia.
Better look at the cemeteries, or rather the heaps in giant fields, where the corpses of terrorist soldiers are simply quietly buried, all over Russia.

5. The only media that lies is Russian media and those who live on Russian handouts Smiley

6. “Global nuclear superpower” is a global global mega-fake Smiley We recently listened to a fairy tale about “2-3 weeks, and the second army of the world will reach the borders of Poland.” Now this army no longer exists, they are urgently recruiting meat all over Russia to try to shower us with meat Smiley I heard a screech - “we will launch a nuclear strike” - and? Smiley Putin understands perfectly well that having used even tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine, his fate will end after the first detonation of a tactical nuclear charge Smiley Russia is stupid, vile, cowardly, wretched, a terrorist country. And she will be defeated!


PS This is what terrorist burials in Russia look like:









Haha pathetic attempt to spread your lies! The pictures you posted are super small I can barely see anything there. We can only guess regarding the time and place where these pics were taken. No Russian flags, there is no proof these are military graves and that they are located in Russia. Or these can be as well pics from the 80ies-90ies or something.

The last name on the first grave ends in "A" which is a female last name in Russia. And year of birth is 1961 (63yo). On the second grave I can see year of birth 1935 (89 years old!!!!) which certainly doesn't sound like a troop deceased in Ukraine recently.  Grin Grin Grin Grin

What a shameful attempt! Always check your lies so they look plausible and you don't look like a bozo to your readers again! However, why not?  Grin
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PS This is what terrorist burials in Russia look like:









Haha pathetic attempt to spread your lies! The pictures you posted are super small I can barely see anything there. We can only guess regarding the time and place where these pics were taken. No Russian flags, there is no proof these are military graves and that they are located in Russia. Or these can be as well pics from the 80ies-90ies or something.

The last name on the first grave ends in "A" which is a female last name in Russia. And year of birth is 1961 (63yo). On the second grave I can see year of birth 1935 (89 years old!!!!) which certainly doesn't sound like a troop deceased in Ukraine recently.  Grin Grin Grin Grin

What a shameful attempt! Always check your lies so they look plausible and you don't look like a bozo to your readers again! However, why not?  Grin
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You could even write “you downloaded it from the American Internet, everything is fake” Smiley))

And now a little truth - all sorts of “meat battalions” from prisons and from the outskirts of Russia recruit anyone - criminals, women, and pensioners - they don’t need ABILITY TO FIGHT, they need A LOT OF MEAT.

I won’t waste time on you, Google pictures on the topic “mass graves in Russia after 2022”, there will be large pictures and the real scale of these fields, and throughout the entire territory of the terrorist’s country. Good luck diving into the truth Smiley

PS I’ll assume that the same part is simply lying around in forests, fields, territocons on Ukrainian soil, which you can also easily find, even in video screams of representatives of the Russian army Smiley

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even in this forum the propaganda still works and people believe Russia is losing. they already have a huge territory of Ukraine. that's the truth as much as we want to punish Putin, he is winning but let's just say this guy is also fighting for the good of his country/people while the West is also fighting for the good of their people.

it's not bad versus evil. there is nothing such as that. every side is protecting its interests.

Now Putin is actually destroying Russia. Instead of solving his economic problems within the state, he is trying to seize and subjugate the neighboring state of Ukraine, sending there colossal material and human resources, which are constantly absorbed by the war he has started. The Russian economy has been rebuilt on a war footing. Instead of making goods to improve the well-being of the people, shells, missiles and military equipment are produced. Putin cares so much about his people that he sends them to die in a neighboring country and they die there in the thousands almost every day.

The Russian people will later give an objective assessment of Putin’s aggressive policy. Now he is intoxicated by well-orchestrated propaganda about the usefulness and necessity of military action, just as it was in Germany during the time of Hitler. But insight will definitely come.

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I hate wars. I hate conflicts. Both they are almost unavailable. Wars and conflicts disrupts lives. It kills people - men, women, babies. Businesses are shot down. Schools are shot down. Boys become father's and look after their moms and siblings because their father has gone to war. Daughters become mothers and have to care for their siblings because they lose their mothers to war. Children with perfectly normal lives become refugees

Wars and conflicts doesn't give you the time to plan. It happens fast and it happens suddenly. It comes with a huge economic cost. And for us in the cryptocurrency, we are not exempted too. If you are a miner, your mining operation is affected because if you are caught up in the conflict, you have to abandon it and flee so that you do not get killed.

I am deeply saddened by these wars. I am not taking sides because there are human causalities in both sides.

- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.

OP when there is war, the mental state of everyone is unstable and at this point what people will be doing is to look for a way to either leave the country or look for a place that's is safe for them, it is very for anyone to think about business at this time, the only beneficiary in war time are the people that sell war equipments to the nations at war, during war individuals brain doesn't coordinate well because everyone will be running different ways to seek refuge, no one should pray for such situation because it is not something to experience, the sustenance of people at this time just happens without plan, is either the government feed the masses or it just happens. 

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I wonder how you can think about business when there's a war in your country.

Most of countries will use their armed forces to handle it, but if they lack of participants, they will force their civilians especially 18+ years old men to join in war and they also open for volunteers. The country will give a support about foods, place to sleep, and weapon, while the women and kids will stay in the most safest place.

So when there's a tension in your country, it's better to fly to other country. Don't too late because civilians will not able to escape except you have a duty to escape.

War is inevitable because there are few organizations that earn profit during war e.g. weapon seller.

Money is the reason why most of the bad things are happening around the globe, you name it.

People are too corrupt, greedy, and always think about money, fame, and power of course to dominate anything that goes against them. Instead of helping each other, we're too busy competing with each other, taking each other's weaknesses as an advantage, fooling each other, just to gain cruel power. War is nonsense, you exchange bombs to each other, destroy the mother earth where we live, leaving those powerful countries with money but a very polluted devastated surroundings.
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War is completely useless, instead there will be an economic crisis and a humanitarian crisis, just look at the example of what happened in the war between Israel and Palestine. The scale of this war is astonishing, a terrible waste of life, all caused by a human being with an ego.

Of course, in times of war, money is useless, let alone thinking about investment, the internet is difficult. We can only think about saving ourselves and our families from war. If we are not in a place where there is conflict, of course we need to prepare funds to invest because usually when there is a war the global economy also slumps.

War destroyed the life of many individuals therefore if war initiates then one country should leave his ego otherwise there will be more wrong things to experience and so many individuals will face hard situations. During the situations of war everyone is in Struggle to live more life by making their lifestyle secure but they are not interested that time to make investment and save their money. If we are not present in the country where there is a war then it is our responsibility to send money to help those needy people.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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war conditions, for example in ukraine or palestine, the economy must be destroyed. the enthusiasm of the population in making money is down. the main thing in such a situation is the safety of his life and life. making money hoarding treasures is not on his mind. the main thing is enough to eat. because even having money is useless, no one can buy market stores must also be closed.

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war conditions, for example in ukraine or palestine, the economy must be destroyed. the enthusiasm of the population in making money is down. the main thing in such a situation is the safety of his life and life. making money hoarding treasures is not on his mind. the main thing is enough to eat. because even having money is useless, no one can buy market stores must also be closed.
If your country is at war, there is nothing you can think about other than saving yourself and surviving. Money, houses and other possessions are no longer so important, we can see what is happening in Ukraine and Palestine. But the worst thing is that in Palestine, let alone thinking about accumulating wealth to get food, they are having difficulty, they are suffering from the effects of war.

However, from all the wars that are happening right now, we can learn that Bitcoin is the one that can save our wealth or assets in times of war. Houses can be destroyed, fiat can be burned, but by keeping bitcoins in your wallet and storing your seed phrase well, even in war, our assets will remain safe. In fact, I once read the news that a lot of aid was distributed to countries at war using bitcoin transactions.

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war conditions, for example in ukraine or palestine, the economy must be destroyed. the enthusiasm of the population in making money is down. the main thing in such a situation is the safety of his life and life. making money hoarding treasures is not on his mind. the main thing is enough to eat. because even having money is useless, no one can buy market stores must also be closed.
To avoid similar situations with massive destruction of civilian infrastructure and killings of civilians, as is happening now in Ukraine, first of all you need to think not how to hide from the war, but how to prevent it. So that maniacs like Putin do not appear and blackmail the world by force of arms.

We were already on the verge of a breakthrough in technology and a qualitative improvement in the lives of people on our planet. However, now, due to Russia’s aggressive military actions, European countries are now faced with the need to transfer their economies to a military footing, since it is already obvious that Russia will not limit itself to seizing the territory of Ukraine. This means that instead of efforts aimed at improving people’s lives, shells and missiles will be manufactured that will cause yet another mass of deaths.

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war conditions, for example in ukraine or palestine, the economy must be destroyed. the enthusiasm of the population in making money is down. the main thing in such a situation is the safety of his life and life. making money hoarding treasures is not on his mind. the main thing is enough to eat. because even having money is useless, no one can buy market stores must also be closed.
If your country is at war, there is nothing you can think about other than saving yourself and surviving. Money, houses and other possessions are no longer so important, we can see what is happening in Ukraine and Palestine. But the worst thing is that in Palestine, let alone thinking about accumulating wealth to get food, they are having difficulty, they are suffering from the effects of war.

However, from all the wars that are happening right now, we can learn that Bitcoin is the one that can save our wealth or assets in times of war. Houses can be destroyed, fiat can be burned, but by keeping bitcoins in your wallet and storing your seed phrase well, even in war, our assets will remain safe. In fact, I once read the news that a lot of aid was distributed to countries at war using bitcoin transactions.
Indeed, they have nothing to think about if the country they live in is at war and they will think about how to save themselves and stay alive in the hope that it will end soon and can return to normal as before, because for the people of course it will be very difficult if their country is at war. will have difficulty in meeting their needs and also suffer greatly from war.

If we choose to protect the assets we have by investing in Bitcoin, of course we have to save the seed phrase well and we have to really guard it because we cannot guarantee safety in war conditions and don't lose access to the Bitcoin wallet we have.

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European countries are now faced with the need to transfer their economies to a military footing, since it is already obvious that Russia will not limit itself to seizing the territory of Ukraine. This means that instead of efforts aimed at improving people’s lives, shells and missiles will be manufactured that will cause yet another mass of deaths.
Really? Obvious? Can you provide any source, colonel?  Grin It doesn't look obvious to me at all. Russia will be exhausted after the war and they can't confront the entire NATO. That's BS. And why do your think Russia is going to seize the territory of Ukraine? Please quote any Russian politician or government official saying that.

Nobody is forcing them to manufacture weapons. They themselves decided to choose a side in this conflict.
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European countries are now faced with the need to transfer their economies to a military footing, since it is already obvious that Russia will not limit itself to seizing the territory of Ukraine. This means that instead of efforts aimed at improving people’s lives, shells and missiles will be manufactured that will cause yet another mass of deaths.
Really? Obvious? Can you provide any source, colonel?  Grin It doesn't look obvious to me at all. Russia will be exhausted after the war and they can't confront the entire NATO. That's BS. And why do your think Russia is going to seize the territory of Ukraine? Please quote any Russian politician or government official saying that.

Nobody is forcing them to manufacture weapons. They themselves decided to choose a side in this conflict.
To begin with, Russia, until the last day before the full-scale invasion of Ukrainian territory in February 2022, also denied that they were going to attack Ukraine. At the same time, top Russian officials, including Putin, have repeatedly denied the existence of invasion plans and even ridiculed such Western fears. But they deceived and attacked.

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The American newspaper The Washington Post was the first to publicly report the suspicious gathering of Russian troops to the border with Ukraine on October 30, 2021, and on November 1, this information with published satellite images was confirmed by Politico. The first reaction from the Russian side came on November 3, when the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, called these messages an “information salvo” and a “fake campaign.”

On November 12, Putin’s press secretary Dmitry Peskov also joined in the denials. "Headlines like this are nothing more than empty, baseless escalation of tension. Russia poses no threat to anyone," he said. Later, Peskov tried to present this information as “camouflage to cover up the aggressive thoughts” not of Moscow, but of Kyiv, which allegedly wanted to “solve the problem of the southeast by force.”

On December 26, the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation answered Vladimir Solovyov’s question whether Russia would attack first: “Russia has never attacked anyone first.” On February 20, Peskov expanded on this idea: “Russia, which has experienced so many wars, is the last country in Europe that even wants to utter the word “war.”

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov also actively tried to convince the world community that Russia would not start a war. Speaking on January 21 at a press conference in Geneva after a meeting with US Secretary of State Antony Blinken, he said, answering a question from an American journalist: “You are claiming that we are going to attack Ukraine, although we have already explained many times that this is not so. that this will happen, you immediately ask: “Why now?” And when should we not attack?” It seems that on February 24, a serious answer appeared to Lavrov’s humorous question.

On February 15, nine days before the invasion of Russian troops in Ukraine, the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry called statements about an impending attack by Russia “information terrorism” and laughed at a Polish journalist who, at a press conference between Lavrov and Polish Foreign Minister Zbigniew Rau, asked: “That is, invasion will not be?". The head of Russian diplomacy called the media employee “unintelligible.”

Personally, Russian President Putin has also repeatedly denied plans to attack Ukraine. At the “Russia Calling” investment forum on November 30, 2021, he answered a direct question from one of the businessmen: “Should investors be wary of the possible deployment of Russian troops to Ukraine?” Putin reassured him: “Look, they talked about the possible entry of Russian troops into Ukraine at the beginning of the year - we conducted the Zapad-2021 exercises - but, as we see, this did not happen.”

After negotiations with French leader Emmanuel Macron on February 8, the Russian President again emphasized that the fears are unfounded: “The movement of our troops on our own, I want to emphasize, territory is presented as a threat of Russian invasion - in this case to Ukraine. The Baltic countries allegedly also feel in danger, and other states are our neighbors. On what basis is not very clear."

Even on February 22, having announced the recognition of the self-proclaimed “DPR” and “LPR” within the borders of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions of Ukraine, Putin argued that this did not mean war: “We expect, and I want to emphasize this, that all controversial issues will be resolved during negotiations between the current Kyiv authorities and the leadership of these republics."

Moreover, de facto declaring the start of war with Ukraine, the Russian President continued to contradict himself: “At the same time, our plans do not include the occupation of Ukrainian territories. We are not going to impose anything on anyone by force.”

  At various times in recent years, the Kremlin has expressed threats of attack against Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Finland, Moldova, Poland, Kazakhstan and even Germany. What, are they also lying?

Regarding why Russia attacked Ukraine, the reasons and goals of this attack are still periodically changed there. From the “demilitarization” and “denazification” of Ukraine in the early days of the attack, to the statement by the governor of St. Petersburg that the motivation for such an attack was the fight against the mythical gender-neutral toilets in Ukraine.
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European countries are now faced with the need to transfer their economies to a military footing, since it is already obvious that Russia will not limit itself to seizing the territory of Ukraine. This means that instead of efforts aimed at improving people’s lives, shells and missiles will be manufactured that will cause yet another mass of deaths.
Really? Obvious? Can you provide any source, colonel?  Grin It doesn't look obvious to me at all. Russia will be exhausted after the war and they can't confront the entire NATO. That's BS. And why do your think Russia is going to seize the territory of Ukraine? Please quote any Russian politician or government official saying that.

Nobody is forcing them to manufacture weapons. They themselves decided to choose a side in this conflict.
To begin with, Russia, until the last day before the full-scale invasion of Ukrainian territory in February 2022, also denied that they were going to attack Ukraine. At the same time, top Russian officials, including Putin, have repeatedly denied the existence of invasion plans and even ridiculed such Western fears. But they deceived and attacked.

I give examples.
The American newspaper The Washington Post was the first to publicly report the suspicious gathering of Russian troops to the border with Ukraine on October 30, 2021, and on November 1, this information with published satellite images was confirmed by Politico. The first reaction from the Russian side came on November 3, when the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, called these messages an “information salvo” and a “fake campaign.”

On November 12, Putin’s press secretary Dmitry Peskov also joined in the denials. "Headlines like this are nothing more than empty, baseless escalation of tension. Russia poses no threat to anyone," he said. Later, Peskov tried to present this information as “camouflage to cover up the aggressive thoughts” not of Moscow, but of Kyiv, which allegedly wanted to “solve the problem of the southeast by force.”

On December 26, the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation answered Vladimir Solovyov’s question whether Russia would attack first: “Russia has never attacked anyone first.” On February 20, Peskov expanded on this idea: “Russia, which has experienced so many wars, is the last country in Europe that even wants to utter the word “war.”

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov also actively tried to convince the world community that Russia would not start a war. Speaking on January 21 at a press conference in Geneva after a meeting with US Secretary of State Antony Blinken, he said, answering a question from an American journalist: “You are claiming that we are going to attack Ukraine, although we have already explained many times that this is not so. that this will happen, you immediately ask: “Why now?” And when should we not attack?” It seems that on February 24, a serious answer appeared to Lavrov’s humorous question.

On February 15, nine days before the invasion of Russian troops in Ukraine, the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry called statements about an impending attack by Russia “information terrorism” and laughed at a Polish journalist who, at a press conference between Lavrov and Polish Foreign Minister Zbigniew Rau, asked: “That is, invasion will not be?". The head of Russian diplomacy called the media employee “unintelligible.”

Personally, Russian President Putin has also repeatedly denied plans to attack Ukraine. At the “Russia Calling” investment forum on November 30, 2021, he answered a direct question from one of the businessmen: “Should investors be wary of the possible deployment of Russian troops to Ukraine?” Putin reassured him: “Look, they talked about the possible entry of Russian troops into Ukraine at the beginning of the year - we conducted the Zapad-2021 exercises - but, as we see, this did not happen.”

After negotiations with French leader Emmanuel Macron on February 8, the Russian President again emphasized that the fears are unfounded: “The movement of our troops on our own, I want to emphasize, territory is presented as a threat of Russian invasion - in this case to Ukraine. The Baltic countries allegedly also feel in danger, and other states are our neighbors. On what basis is not very clear."

Even on February 22, having announced the recognition of the self-proclaimed “DPR” and “LPR” within the borders of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions of Ukraine, Putin argued that this did not mean war: “We expect, and I want to emphasize this, that all controversial issues will be resolved during negotiations between the current Kyiv authorities and the leadership of these republics."

Moreover, de facto declaring the start of war with Ukraine, the Russian President continued to contradict himself: “At the same time, our plans do not include the occupation of Ukrainian territories. We are not going to impose anything on anyone by force.”

  At various times in recent years, the Kremlin has expressed threats of attack against Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Finland, Moldova, Poland, Kazakhstan and even Germany. What, are they also lying?

Regarding why Russia attacked Ukraine, the reasons and goals of this attack are still periodically changed there. From the “demilitarization” and “denazification” of Ukraine in the early days of the attack, to the statement by the governor of St. Petersburg that the motivation for such an attack was the fight against the mythical gender-neutral toilets in Ukraine.
https://24tv.ua/ru/rossijskaja-propaganda-gubernator-peterburga-zajavil-chto-rossija_n2472841

But what did you expect? Russia doesn't want a hostile country right next to it's border, hundreds of kilometres away from Moscow... Imagine Putin visiting Mexico and giving away cookies to people in order to overthrow the government and install a new pro-Russian one. Then flooding Mexico with Russian arms and training Mexican military. What would the US do?  Grin
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war conditions, for example in ukraine or palestine, the economy must be destroyed. the enthusiasm of the population in making money is down. the main thing in such a situation is the safety of his life and life. making money hoarding treasures is not on his mind. the main thing is enough to eat. because even having money is useless, no one can buy market stores must also be closed.
war does not have any benefit but people will want to show that they are in control and they forget the consequences that war comes with the social challenges people face and the mental breakdown. and once the economic structure is affected then the entire running of the country will be affected, and the war between Ukraine and Russia was a disaster, and now Palestine. what pains me with this country is the fact that they do not give value to the risk they are putting their citizens, and they can spend any amount on war but can not spend on the welfare of their people which is unwise.

If your country is at war, there is nothing you can think about other than saving yourself and surviving. Money, houses and other possessions are no longer so important, we can see what is happening in Ukraine and Palestine. But the worst thing is that in Palestine, let alone thinking about accumulating wealth to get food, they are having difficulty, they are suffering from the effects of war.

However, from all the wars that are happening right now, we can learn that Bitcoin is the one that can save our wealth or assets in times of war. Houses can be destroyed, fiat can be burned, but by keeping bitcoins in your wallet and storing your seed phrase well, even in war, our assets will remain safe. In fact, I once read the news that a lot of aid was distributed to countries at war using bitcoin transactions.
The first thing is to look for possible means that you can secure your safety and then you can think of other things because if war starts anything can hit you anywhere, so you have to get information on safe zones if you should even watch a documentary you might even shade tears just because of the amount of pain people go through that period, and also a lot of lives are even lost in the process.  and you might even lose some assets in the process, it only take prayer for your house not to be destroyed, and when it starts I won't even think you will put mind in does things because you will only want to stay alive.

And with this people are supposed to know the value of Bitcoin because, during situations like this, it is better to have Bitcoin than to have money, because when everywhere is calm any time any day you can remove your money without any stress, the news has even made video and shown us how terrible war can be and we know that it is something that will happen even if people like it or not its left for us to protect our self.

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of course the effects of war will have an effect on the prices of all goods will rise. especially food prices will skyrocket. war conditions agricultural land will be destroyed. food needs imports. imports in war conditions will be difficult to enter. money becomes useless if the conditions of war. the next effect will experience famine conditions. unless there is outside assistance entering the example of Ukraine.

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European countries are now faced with the need to transfer their economies to a military footing, since it is already obvious that Russia will not limit itself to seizing the territory of Ukraine. This means that instead of efforts aimed at improving people’s lives, shells and missiles will be manufactured that will cause yet another mass of deaths.
Really? Obvious? Can you provide any source, colonel?  Grin It doesn't look obvious to me at all. Russia will be exhausted after the war and they can't confront the entire NATO. That's BS. And why do your think Russia is going to seize the territory of Ukraine? Please quote any Russian politician or government official saying that.

Nobody is forcing them to manufacture weapons. They themselves decided to choose a side in this conflict.
To begin with, Russia, until the last day before the full-scale invasion of Ukrainian territory in February 2022, also denied that they were going to attack Ukraine. At the same time, top Russian officials, including Putin, have repeatedly denied the existence of invasion plans and even ridiculed such Western fears. But they deceived and attacked.

  At various times in recent years, the Kremlin has expressed threats of attack against Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Finland, Moldova, Poland, Kazakhstan and even Germany. What, are they also lying?

Regarding why Russia attacked Ukraine, the reasons and goals of this attack are still periodically changed there. From the “demilitarization” and “denazification” of Ukraine in the early days of the attack, to the statement by the governor of St. Petersburg that the motivation for such an attack was the fight against the mythical gender-neutral toilets in Ukraine.
https://24tv.ua/ru/rossijskaja-propaganda-gubernator-peterburga-zajavil-chto-rossija_n2472841

But what did you expect? Russia doesn't want a hostile country right next to it's border, hundreds of kilometres away from Moscow... Imagine Putin visiting Mexico and giving away cookies to people in order to overthrow the government and install a new pro-Russian one. Then flooding Mexico with Russian arms and training Mexican military. What would the US do?  Grin
In Russia, any neighboring state that refuses to fall under its direct influence and that tries to conduct independent foreign policy activities is considered hostile. Russia has consistently adhered to this policy for many centuries, so wars of aggression have become the norm for it, and now it includes many nations and nationalities, which the Kremlin continues to ruthlessly exploit, sucking oil, gas and other natural resources from their territories.

Therefore, those neighboring states that join any defensive alliances that do not include or dominate Russia pose a particular danger to Russia. Therefore, it does not matter whether it will be NATO or another military alliance. The danger for Russia is the very difficulty of continuing further violent influence on them.

Any explanations for aggression on the part of Russia have no meaning. These reasons will change depending on changes in the situation, as happens in explaining the reasons for the attack on Ukraine. There is only one reason: Ukraine allowed itself the impudence to leave Russia’s zone of influence. And fairy tales about NATO’s hostility remain fairy tales only for the domestic audience; the world community has long understood the parasitic essence of the Kremlin. Therefore, evil must be eradicated; it is useless to negotiate with it.

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I hate wars. I hate conflicts. Both they are almost unavailable. Wars and conflicts disrupts lives. It kills people - men, women, babies. Businesses are shot down. Schools are shot down. Boys become father's and look after their moms and siblings because their father has gone to war. Daughters become mothers and have to care for their siblings because they lose their mothers to war. Children with perfectly normal lives become refugees

Wars and conflicts doesn't give you the time to plan. It happens fast and it happens suddenly. It comes with a huge economic cost. And for us in the cryptocurrency, we are not exempted too. If you are a miner, your mining operation is affected because if you are caught up in the conflict, you have to abandon it and flee so that you do not get killed.

I am deeply saddened by these wars. I am not taking sides because there are human causalities in both sides.

- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.

The hardest thing to think of is war and conflict even the so called warmonger always have the felt of losses course by war and conflict, no nation or society support it but occur as unforseen circumstances.
War destroys communities and families and often disrupts the development of the social and economic fabric of nations. The effects of war include long-term physical and psychological harm to children and adults, as well as reduction in material and human capital. Develop nation can turn under develop due to effects of war typical example the ongoing war in Ukraine many life , property economy and many to mention has been lost, it the worst thing to befall any nation.

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European countries are now faced with the need to transfer their economies to a military footing, since it is already obvious that Russia will not limit itself to seizing the territory of Ukraine. This means that instead of efforts aimed at improving people’s lives, shells and missiles will be manufactured that will cause yet another mass of deaths.
Really? Obvious? Can you provide any source, colonel?  Grin It doesn't look obvious to me at all. Russia will be exhausted after the war and they can't confront the entire NATO. That's BS. And why do your think Russia is going to seize the territory of Ukraine? Please quote any Russian politician or government official saying that.

Nobody is forcing them to manufacture weapons. They themselves decided to choose a side in this conflict.
To begin with, Russia, until the last day before the full-scale invasion of Ukrainian territory in February 2022, also denied that they were going to attack Ukraine. At the same time, top Russian officials, including Putin, have repeatedly denied the existence of invasion plans and even ridiculed such Western fears. But they deceived and attacked.

I give examples.
The American newspaper The Washington Post was the first to publicly report the suspicious gathering of Russian troops to the border with Ukraine on October 30, 2021, and on November 1, this information with published satellite images was confirmed by Politico. The first reaction from the Russian side came on November 3, when the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, called these messages an “information salvo” and a “fake campaign.”

On November 12, Putin’s press secretary Dmitry Peskov also joined in the denials. "Headlines like this are nothing more than empty, baseless escalation of tension. Russia poses no threat to anyone," he said. Later, Peskov tried to present this information as “camouflage to cover up the aggressive thoughts” not of Moscow, but of Kyiv, which allegedly wanted to “solve the problem of the southeast by force.”

On December 26, the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation answered Vladimir Solovyov’s question whether Russia would attack first: “Russia has never attacked anyone first.” On February 20, Peskov expanded on this idea: “Russia, which has experienced so many wars, is the last country in Europe that even wants to utter the word “war.”

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov also actively tried to convince the world community that Russia would not start a war. Speaking on January 21 at a press conference in Geneva after a meeting with US Secretary of State Antony Blinken, he said, answering a question from an American journalist: “You are claiming that we are going to attack Ukraine, although we have already explained many times that this is not so. that this will happen, you immediately ask: “Why now?” And when should we not attack?” It seems that on February 24, a serious answer appeared to Lavrov’s humorous question.

On February 15, nine days before the invasion of Russian troops in Ukraine, the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry called statements about an impending attack by Russia “information terrorism” and laughed at a Polish journalist who, at a press conference between Lavrov and Polish Foreign Minister Zbigniew Rau, asked: “That is, invasion will not be?". The head of Russian diplomacy called the media employee “unintelligible.”

Personally, Russian President Putin has also repeatedly denied plans to attack Ukraine. At the “Russia Calling” investment forum on November 30, 2021, he answered a direct question from one of the businessmen: “Should investors be wary of the possible deployment of Russian troops to Ukraine?” Putin reassured him: “Look, they talked about the possible entry of Russian troops into Ukraine at the beginning of the year - we conducted the Zapad-2021 exercises - but, as we see, this did not happen.”

After negotiations with French leader Emmanuel Macron on February 8, the Russian President again emphasized that the fears are unfounded: “The movement of our troops on our own, I want to emphasize, territory is presented as a threat of Russian invasion - in this case to Ukraine. The Baltic countries allegedly also feel in danger, and other states are our neighbors. On what basis is not very clear."

Even on February 22, having announced the recognition of the self-proclaimed “DPR” and “LPR” within the borders of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions of Ukraine, Putin argued that this did not mean war: “We expect, and I want to emphasize this, that all controversial issues will be resolved during negotiations between the current Kyiv authorities and the leadership of these republics."

Moreover, de facto declaring the start of war with Ukraine, the Russian President continued to contradict himself: “At the same time, our plans do not include the occupation of Ukrainian territories. We are not going to impose anything on anyone by force.”

  At various times in recent years, the Kremlin has expressed threats of attack against Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Finland, Moldova, Poland, Kazakhstan and even Germany. What, are they also lying?

Regarding why Russia attacked Ukraine, the reasons and goals of this attack are still periodically changed there. From the “demilitarization” and “denazification” of Ukraine in the early days of the attack, to the statement by the governor of St. Petersburg that the motivation for such an attack was the fight against the mythical gender-neutral toilets in Ukraine.
https://24tv.ua/ru/rossijskaja-propaganda-gubernator-peterburga-zajavil-chto-rossija_n2472841

You have written whole 12 paragraphs of text but 0 proof. No facts, no sources. You have ignored my point, my question completely. Like a typical troll. 

I will paste my questions below once again: Really? Obvious? Can you provide any source, colonel?  Grin It doesn't look obvious to me at all. Russia will be exhausted after the war and they can't confront the entire NATO. That's BS. And why do your think Russia is going to seize the territory of Ukraine? Please quote any Russian politician or government official saying that.

Which part of it you don't understand? I will translate this post into Ukrainian for you:

 cпpaвдi? Oчeвиднo? Чи мoжeтe ви нaдaти якecь джepeлo, пoлкoвникy? Grin Meнi цe зoвciм нe здaєтьcя oчeвидним. Pociя виcнaжитьcя пicля вiйни i нe змoжe пpoтиcтoяти вcьoмy HATO. Цe БC. I чoмy, нa вaшy дyмкy, Pociя збиpaєтьcя зaxoпити тepитopiю Укpaїни? Бyдь лacкa, пpoцитyйтe бyдь-якoгo pociйcькoгo пoлiтикa чи ypядoвця, який би цe cкaзaв.

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News from a "great and stable economy" Smiley
- Putin warned about cutting spending on science. Everything here seems to be logical - why science if you need to satisfy your painful ambitions Smiley By the way, medicine and education are also in the fire of a terrorist war against the developed world.

But this is not the end yet Smiley
- Putin demanded that technologies be invented to replace Western ones!

But so far, of all the successes of the “world leader”: oil in exchange for .. bananas and flowers Smiley
- The Russian authorities are launching a “banana scheme” to solve the problem of trade imbalance with India, which increased oil purchases in the Russian Federation 11 times after the start of the war, but did not launch a return flow of goods to the Russian market...

But they sell oil so profitably and expensively  Grin

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You have written whole 12 paragraphs of text but 0 proof. No facts, no sources. You have ignored my point, my question completely. Like a typical troll. 

I will paste my questions below once again: Really? Obvious? Can you provide any source, colonel?  Grin It doesn't look obvious to me at all. Russia will be exhausted after the war and they can't confront the entire NATO. That's BS. And why do your think Russia is going to seize the territory of Ukraine? Please quote any Russian politician or government official saying that.

It seems to me that I have completely answered your questions. Regarding the fact that Russia will not attack anyone after Ukraine, I gave a number of examples from the statements of the top officials of this state - Putin, Peskov and Lavrov that before the attack on Ukraine they also blatantly lied that they were not going to attack her. True, they lied and are lying not only about this. That is, there is no faith in the Russian leadership, they are complete liars. Therefore, what they continue to invent about the purpose of attacking Ukraine does not matter at all, since it is still a lie.

  In this regard, in response to your request to report on the reasons for Russia’s attack on Ukraine from the words of Russian officials, I wrote on January 28: “As for why Russia attacked Ukraine, the reasons and goals of this attack still change periodically. From the “demilitarization” and “denazification” of Ukraine in the first days of the terrorist attack to the statement by the governor of St. Petersburg that the motive for such an attack was the fight against mythical gender-neutral toilets in Ukraine. https://24tv.ua/ru/rossijskaja-propaganda -gubernator-petersburga-zajavil-chto-rossija_n2472841".

But if you want to talk more about it, let's talk. So, in Wikipedia it is written about this: As one of the justifications for the invasion, Vladimir Putin used the untrue representation of Ukraine as a neo-Nazi state leading genocide in the Donbass."
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%87%D1%8C_%D0%92%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8 %D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B0_%D0%9F%D1%83%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%BE_%D0%BD%D0 %B0%D1%87%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5_%D0%B2%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8 %D1%8F_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%A3%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%83

In the same place, in the section “Content of the appeal” it is written: “Putin called the purpose of the invasion of Ukraine “the protection of people who have been subjected to bullying and genocide by the Kiev regime for eight years,” and in order to prevent the alleged bullying and genocide, Russia needs to “demilitarize and denazify Ukraine”[1].

That is, according to Putin, the Russians attacked Ukraine to protect Russian-speaking people in Donbass. Protected. Some previously prosperous settlements turned into complete ruins due to the scorched earth tactics of the invasion, with virtually no male population left. Those who survived the Russian artillery were mobilized for the war and at the front they were forced to attack in the front ranks, and behind them there were loading detachments that killed the retreating ones. The population of Donbass is being disposed of, and in their place, hundreds of thousands of Russians - Kazakhs, Buryats, Chechens and other nationalities - are being resettled from the depths of Russia, so that in the future the conquered territory will be more obedient to the Kremlin.

As for the “demilitarization” and “denazification” of Ukraine declared by Putin, a significant part of the Russian population not only does not understand the meaning of these words, but also cannot pronounce them. In fact, they mean the destruction of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as the destruction of Ukraine as a state and Ukrainians as a nation.

Then other reasons for the attack on Ukraine appeared, but if you want, more on that later.

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February 09, 2024, 02:34:36 PM
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"No money but a mouthful of bananas" is a short description of modern russia Grin Grin Grin

Russian authorities are launching a "banana scheme" to solve the problem of trade imbalance with India, which has increased its oil purchases from Russia 11 times since the war began, but has not launched a reciprocal flow of goods to the Russian market.

Bananas should patch up the "hole" in the Russian-Indian trade balance and possibly solve the problem of rupees hanging in India, the amount of which, according to Reuters, may reach $39 billion. This is the money that Indian refineries used to pay for Russian crude oil, having obeyed the requirement to conduct transactions in national currencies. However, it turned out to be impossible to withdraw rupees from India: local currency regulations prohibit this.

And all this against the backdrop of constant begging for arms from North Korea, Iran and other rogue countries.

Looking at this scheme, it makes me laugh when I imagine who and with what, in Russia, will pay to suppliers of shells to Russian terrorists! Will they slave off part of the Russian population ? They're used to it ! Smiley

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Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, general Zaluzhnyi was fired just because he wasn't obeying NATO orders and was trying to fight for Ukraine and not for US. He was also going against the US installed Zionist puppet.
He was replaced by "The Butcher" because his replacement is known for obeying NATO orders...

And some people still have a hard time believing the US congress members statements when they say "We [meaning US] will fight Russians to the last Ukrainian". This is exactly why Ukraine has been losing and will continue to lose as long as they fight for US and not for Ukraine.

All of this mess will continue and the global economy will suffer as the result. Which is at the same time highlighting the importance of decoupling the economy and deglobalizing it which starts with dedollarisation and will continue with economic blocs that separate themselves from the dollar and US policies such as warmongering that affects the economy.
The good news is that dedollarisation and economic blocs (BRICS, SCO, ASEAN, etc.) continue strengthening and expanding.

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Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, general Zaluzhnyi was fired just because he wasn't obeying NATO orders and was trying to fight for Ukraine and not for US. He was also going against the US installed Zionist puppet.
He was replaced by "The Butcher" because his replacement is known for obeying NATO orders...

And some people still have a hard time believing the US congress members statements when they say "We [meaning US] will fight Russians to the last Ukrainian". This is exactly why Ukraine has been losing and will continue to lose as long as they fight for US and not for Ukraine.

All of this mess will continue and the global economy will suffer as the result. Which is at the same time highlighting the importance of decoupling the economy and deglobalizing it which starts with dedollarisation and will continue with economic blocs that separate themselves from the dollar and US policies such as warmongering that affects the economy.
The good news is that dedollarisation and economic blocs (BRICS, SCO, ASEAN, etc.) continue strengthening and expanding.


I think even if they fight for their country it won't change anything, Russia's weapons are more complete than Ukraine's, enthusiasm alone is not enough, you need more than that.
Or has this become a scenario that must happen and is what the global elite wants?

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I think even if they fight for their country it won't change anything, Russia's weapons are more complete than Ukraine's, enthusiasm alone is not enough, you need more than that.
Or has this become a scenario that must happen and is what the global elite wants?
I have to disagree since history is filled with examples where the invaded country defeats the invaders who had "more complete weapons". I can even give you two live examples: Yemen and Palestine. Both are facing a much more powerful and much better equipped invaders and both have been defeating their enemies.

For example in case of Yemen the invasion lasted more than 8 years and only recently it "paused" with a cease fire. Do you know why? The invaders (ie. US-Arab coalition) were forced to stop the invasion and slaughter the moment Armed Forces of Yemen started hitting them where it hurt the most, deep into their territories and their infrastructure like the Aramco oil facilities.

Does United States allow Ukraine to attack Russia that way? Like attacking Russian weapon factories, refineries, etc.? No, absolutely not! Since US wants to turn Ukraine to Russia's Afghanistan, this is why they neither gives them any weapon with a range more than 100-300 km range, nor allows them to manufacture one themselves.

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Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, general Zaluzhnyi was fired just because he wasn't obeying NATO orders and was trying to fight for Ukraine and not for US. He was also going against the US installed Zionist puppet.
He was replaced by "The Butcher" because his replacement is known for obeying NATO orders...

And some people still have a hard time believing the US congress members statements when they say "We [meaning US] will fight Russians to the last Ukrainian". This is exactly why Ukraine has been losing and will continue to lose as long as they fight for US and not for Ukraine.

All of this mess will continue and the global economy will suffer as the result. Which is at the same time highlighting the importance of decoupling the economy and deglobalizing it which starts with dedollarisation and will continue with economic blocs that separate themselves from the dollar and US policies such as warmongering that affects the economy.
The good news is that dedollarisation and economic blocs (BRICS, SCO, ASEAN, etc.) continue strengthening and expanding.

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And some people still have a hard time believing the US congress members statements when they say "We [meaning US] will fight Russians to the last Ukrainian". This is exactly why Ukraine has been losing and will continue to lose as long as they fight for US and not for Ukraine.

And which member of the US Congress declared that the United States would fight the Russians to the last Ukrainian? Can you refer to any media information about this?

No Western officials, of course, have ever said anything like this. The first instance of the use of the formula “war to the last Ukrainian” was found in a column by veteran American politician Ron Paul, published on his own website on March 14, 2022. Paul has not held any public office for almost 10 years.

But such statements are used by Russian propagandists and presented almost as the official position of the United States. The goal is simple - to “replace” the enemy: they say that Russia is not fighting with Ukraine, but with the entire “collective West”. This makes it easier to explain the obvious failures: the failure of the operation to quickly capture Kyiv in February-March, the September counter-offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Kharkov region, the surrender of Kherson in November 2022.

A similar statement was also made by retired American diplomat Chas Freeman in his article for the information portal The Gray Zone, who is not a current US official and expressed only his personal opinion.
Freeman was once the US ambassador to Saudi Arabia. But his reputation has long been hopelessly damaged: for example, he said that the Chinese authorities were too lenient with the “extras” of protesters in Tiananmen Square in 1989 (then, according to various estimates, from several hundred to several thousand people died).
https://m.gazeta.ru/army/news/2022/03/28/17485021.shtml
https://m.gazeta.ru/army/news/2022/03/28/17485021.shtml

Only Putin spoke about this from state officials: “Ukraine’s mobilization reserve is not limitless; it seems that Western countries are ready to fight to the last Ukrainian,” Putin briefly noted.
https://news.obozrevatel.com/russia/do-poslednego-ukraintsa-putin-sdelal-tsinichnoe-zayavlenie-o-vojne-obviniv-vo-vsem-zapad.htm

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I am deeply saddened by these wars. I am not taking sides because there are human causalities in both sides
No one wants war because the big effects of war can affect human life in general. War will make things worse because the necessary access could be closed and life would not be much safer in it, so it could affect the economy, health and other sectors.

- do you have any survival tips during war period?
There is almost no way to survive during a war because talking about security is quite problematic, not to mention talking about fulfilling life in the basic needs sector as a basis that needs to be prepared for food needs.

- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
Saving is not done during war, but you have to do it long before war occurs and vice versa regarding investing in bitcoin. But if your financial structure is a little better, you can still invest in bitcoin as long as internet access and electricity are still available in your country.

- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
Avoid leaving the house and don't buy ready-to-eat food because it can be expensive, but instead buy basic necessities that can be prepared at home so you can stretch your budget a little. Another way is to interact with the security system that supports the community and ask for a little help with the food they provide so you can save money.

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Does United States allow Ukraine to attack Russia that way? Like attacking Russian weapon factories, refineries, etc.? No, absolutely not! Since US wants to turn Ukraine to Russia's Afghanistan, this is why they neither gives them any weapon with a range more than 100-300 km range, nor allows them to manufacture one themselves.
No one can prohibit Ukraine from striking Russian territory with its own weapons. Therefore, Ukraine continues to destroy military facilities on Russian territory, and has also begun to destroy dual-use facilities, which are oil refineries and fuel tanks on Russian territory, which contribute to increasing Russia’s military power.

Just since the beginning of 2024, Ukrainian drones have attacked a dozen oil refineries in the Russian Federation. Thus, on January 9, in the Russian city of Orel, drones attacked a fuel and energy complex.

On the night of January 18, Ukrainian drones attacked an oil terminal in St. Petersburg.

On January 19, oil tanks caught fire at an oil depot in the city of Klintsy, Bryansk region.
On January 20, loud explosions were heard again at the same oil depot. The oil depot burned for two days in a row.

On the night of January 21, the Novatek fuel plant was closed due to a Ukrainian drone attack on the sea terminal in Ust-Luga, Leningrad region. This plant processed fuel for the Russian Armed Forces. After the SBU attack, all tankers located at the terminal went far out to sea.

After a fire on January 25, the largest oil refinery in Tuapse, a city in the Krasnodar region and a major port on the Black Sea coast, was paralyzed due to a Ukrainian drone strike. This plant annually processes up to 9 million tons of raw materials and is one of the ten largest in the Russian Federation.

On January 30, Ukrainian drones hit the Kaluganefteprodukt oil depot in the Kaluga region.

On January 31, explosions occurred at an oil refinery in St. Petersburg. The Nevsky Mazut oil refinery was hit by drones.

On the night of February 3, an attack was carried out on the Lukoil oil refinery in the Volgograd region. The drone struck a primary oil refinery plant producing ELOU-AVT-5 fuel.

On the night of February 9, a fire broke out at the Ilsky oil refinery in the Seversky district of the Krasnodar Territory. A primary processing plant with a capacity of 3.6 million tons per year was hit. Without it, Russians will not be able to produce diesel fuel for military needs. The price of such an installation is about $50 million.

In addition, on the night of February 9, explosions occurred at the Afipsky oil refinery, which is also located in the Krasnodar Territory. Both objects are located about 20 km from each other.
https://24tv.ua/ru/ilskij-npz-gorit-posle-vzryvov-rossijane-zajavili-o-bpla_n2490930

I cited only cases of attacks by Ukrainian drones on oil refineries in Russia over the past month and a half. In this regard, only in the first month of 2024, Russian oil companies reduced gasoline exports abroad by 37%. Sales of diesel fuel, the largest export of petroleum products, fell 23%.

Ukraine is also simultaneously attacking Russian factories that produce military products. This list is also impressive even in recent months.

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War is an abomination to almost all people of the world. Conflict is almost as much a matter of contempt for all people as before. War or conflict, however, we define it, are roughly the same species that harm people which never gain.
Due to war or conflict, every country has to face a huge military economic loss which is a huge loss for a country. Just as people die through war, every person who is alive has to pass through a narrow period. Because every person who has no relatives has to live with high prices which we can call salt in the wound.
As the number of casualties increases between the parties involved in war, it is a great loss and the greatest loss is the humanitarian catastrophe that causes war. So let us stay away from war and conflict and maintain humanity.

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March 04, 2024, 05:24:13 PM
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of course the effects of war will have an effect on the prices of all goods will rise. especially food prices will skyrocket. war conditions agricultural land will be destroyed. food needs imports. imports in war conditions will be difficult to enter. money becomes useless if the conditions of war. the next effect will experience famine conditions. unless there is outside assistance entering the example of Ukraine.
War is clearly detrimental to both sides. All budgets prioritize the purchase of war equipment for either attack or defense. Funds that should have been allocated for food, clothing and public health needs ultimately had to be ignored for war equipment.
The destruction of infrastructure means that it cannot be effective in producing anything that should be intended for living needs or exported to earn foreign exchange. The structure is no longer normal for distribution.

Everything is unfavorable for life in general and individuals with the existence of war because of this reason, there is no other way that stopping war is the main solution to be able to provide a sense of calm and be able to live normally.
Russia's intervention in Ukraine and Israel's intervention in Gaza are examples that cannot be avoided and there must be a peaceful solution immediately, that is the best for the people.

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Russia's intervention in Ukraine and Israel's intervention in Gaza are examples that cannot be avoided and there must be a peaceful solution immediately, that is the best for the people.
It's hard to agree with your assertion that Russia's invasion of Ukraine could not have been avoided. If the United States and European countries had reacted more decisively to Russia's 2014 seizure of Ukraine's Crimea peninsula, as well as parts of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, the Kremlin would likely be hesitant to launch a large-scale invasion of Ukraine with its eight armies in February 2022.
At that time, the United States and European countries were afraid of angering the aggressor and escalating the military conflict. Now they have to dramatically increase their armies and weapons production, and Europe has to prepare to repel a Russian attack on its territory.

But the situation of the conflict between Hamas and Israel is somewhat different. If Hamas had not attacked Israel on October 7 last year and its militants had not begun to indiscriminately kill Israelis, as well as take them hostage and take them to the Gaza Strip, then Israel would not now be carrying out retaliatory military actions to free the hostages and clear the Gaza Strip from Hamas to avoid a repeat attack in the future.

Quick peaceful resolutions to military conflicts do not always lead to lasting peace. Freezing the conflict in Ukraine now, when Ukraine is actually losing part of its territories, and Russia looks weak against this background, because it has not fully resolved any of its published goals, will not suit either side and will only be used by Russia to accumulate military power and the continuation of aggression against Ukraine in the future.
If Israel does not eliminate Hamas now, then over time the shelling from the Gaza Strip will continue again.

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The good news is that dedollarisation and economic blocs (BRICS, SCO, ASEAN, etc.) continue strengthening and expanding.

my country is part of the countries that support dedollarization. the leader of my country took quite controversial action, where america threatened to impose sanctions if our country continued to dedollarize. but this is not a problem, since our country is supported by other countries to dedollarize, because for a long time we have used usd in trade with other countries and that is not fair to the stability of our country's economy and currency.

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War is an abomination to almost all people of the world. Conflict is almost as much a matter of contempt for all people as before. War or conflict, however, we define it, are roughly the same species that harm people which never gain.
Due to war or conflict, every country has to face a huge military economic loss which is a huge loss for a country. Just as people die through war, every person who is alive has to pass through a narrow period. Because every person who has no relatives has to live with high prices which we can call salt in the wound.
As the number of casualties increases between the parties involved in war, it is a great loss and the greatest loss is the humanitarian catastrophe that causes war. So let us stay away from war and conflict and maintain humanity.
war is wrong and other countries have benefited from it in terms of selling ammunition, For countries that are at war, the first question I always ask is: Why do countries go to war, Why can they settle whatever the issue may be? Most of the time, it is always about the territory, and before they go to war, they are supposed to consider the psychological effect of this action for Christ's sake Children are living in those places but all they care about at that particular time is how to get the other country to bow to there will. During the World War, a lot of people died. and they still did not learn from that. I am disappointed in some countries because, during this war, what some countries did was take sides when what they were supposed to be doing was looking for ways to settle them. and give them the condition that there should be a world jurisdiction so that when you don't listen, they sanction you. The number of lives lost in the whole process is worrisome, war should be permanently stopped among nations. If not, we are not going to end well in all these ways.

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It is hardly to be expected that anyone would have the idea that business can be done for survival during wartime. I think the only survival tip is to survive at any cost in any situation. The best way to think is to keep the brain as still as possible. War means destruction, destruction of the human body and mind, destruction of the economy, destruction of infrastructure, destruction of education, shelter, and medical care all basic needs are distorted. All the resources around you are very likely to be destroyed during the war, so to survive the war and develop from here, the only thing to do is to use those resources to save money through cryptocurrencies which will help you survive later.
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It is hardly to be expected that anyone would have the idea that business can be done for survival during wartime. I think the only survival tip is to survive at any cost in any situation. The best way to think is to keep the brain as still as possible. War means destruction, destruction of the human body and mind, destruction of the economy, destruction of infrastructure, destruction of education, shelter, and medical care all basic needs are distorted. All the resources around you are very likely to be destroyed during the war, so to survive the war and develop from here, the only thing to do is to use those resources to save money through cryptocurrencies which will help you survive later.

If the billionaires are building their bunkers to hide when the shit hits the fan, maybe an ordinary person can also build his own. I think the war will not happen abruptly, there is still time. They are still not done with their bunkers.

There are war preppers on youtube who give tips to survive the apocalypse. It's after the war is where the real challenge for those who survived because the rest of those who survived are also going to kill each other for what they have.

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Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, general Zaluzhnyi was fired just because he wasn't obeying NATO orders and was trying to fight for Ukraine and not for US. He was also going against the US installed Zionist puppet.
He was replaced by "The Butcher" because his replacement is known for obeying NATO orders...

And some people still have a hard time believing the US congress members statements when they say "We [meaning US] will fight Russians to the last Ukrainian". This is exactly why Ukraine has been losing and will continue to lose as long as they fight for US and not for Ukraine.

All of this mess will continue and the global economy will suffer as the result. Which is at the same time highlighting the importance of decoupling the economy and deglobalizing it which starts with dedollarisation and will continue with economic blocs that separate themselves from the dollar and US policies such as warmongering that affects the economy.
The good news is that dedollarisation and economic blocs (BRICS, SCO, ASEAN, etc.) continue strengthening and expanding.

Please provide a link to an official document or a credible source, or write "I have a new morbid fantasy and it is so - ", and then your post  Grin

The reality is much simpler - the Presidential Administration's underhanded struggle and an attempt to remove a very powerful, well-deservedly respected by both the population of Ukraine and Western partners, a potential competitor in the presidential election, which Zelensky does not want.

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March 09, 2024, 08:49:10 PM
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Undoubtedly, during the time of war or a prolonged violent conflicts, the certainty of safety of human lives and normalcy of business are not guaranteed. During the Nigerian/Biafran civil war between 1967 - 1970,, several lives were lost on both sides and economic activities were grounded mostly in the then eastern region of the nation.
Besides these, there were social and psychological impacts on the people of the Eastern region in particular.
Socially, most children borned during the civil war were without fathers. Most of the male partners were soldiers of either faction of the war, and did run away. Only few of the children were able to trace their fathers after much pressure on their mothers who were equally lucky to know the home of the runaway soldier. The rest unlucky children are without knowledge of their fathers to this day.
Psychologically, there have existed mistrust and distrust trauma between the people of the then eastern region and the northern region. It has affected the political trends to this day.
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A war has the greatest impact on a country. This effect deals a lot more damage. In addition to the economic collapse caused by this war, I would say future generations suffer the most. As a result of war, the normal life of people is affected terribly and its impact is especially noticeable in the field of education. The extent of the suffering that people in a war-torn country go through can never be understood without actually seeing them. Those who have lost their wealth, their own houses, personal institutions etc. through the war know how great the suffering is. The biggest pain is seeing your family members die in front of your eyes. People who lose their wealth through war casualties die for food at the end of the day. It is indeed a curse to the world.

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A war has the greatest impact on a country. This effect deals a lot more damage. In addition to the economic collapse caused by this war, I would say future generations suffer the most. As a result of war, the normal life of people is affected terribly and its impact is especially noticeable in the field of education. The extent of the suffering that people in a war-torn country go through can never be understood without actually seeing them. Those who have lost their wealth, their own houses, personal institutions etc. through the war know how great the suffering is. The biggest pain is seeing your family members die in front of your eyes. People who lose their wealth through war casualties die for food at the end of the day. It is indeed a curse to the world.

As we have seen personally in the last 5 years, the hardest hits to countries and their economies come from pandemics and wars. But if pandemics can be overcome - quarantine, compulsory vaccination, compliance with certain rules, wait a little and it will subside, then war does not work that way. The way out of war, war against the aggressor, is binary. Either you defend your country and destroy the enemy, or he will defeat you and destroy your country and you. And there's no solution to a pandemic. The defending country is forced to use the lives of its citizens, money and many other things not for development, but to save itself from destruction. It's a terrible cost...

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war is wrong and other countries have benefited from it in terms of selling ammunition, For countries that are at war, the first question I always ask is: Why do countries go to war, Why can they settle whatever the issue may be? Most of the time, it is always about the territory, and before they go to war, they are supposed to consider the psychological effect of this action for Christ's sake Children are living in those places but all they care about at that particular time is how to get the other country to bow to there will. During the World War, a lot of people died. and they still did not learn from that. I am disappointed in some countries because, during this war, what some countries did was take sides when what they were supposed to be doing was looking for ways to settle them. and give them the condition that there should be a world jurisdiction so that when you don't listen, they sanction you. The number of lives lost in the whole process is worrisome, war should be permanently stopped among nations. If not, we are not going to end well in all these ways.
   There is nothing that cannot be resolve with dialogue. That I mean dialogue can make peace instead of war. With dialogue the both parties can come with some kind of agreement within them self. But these is not so for some of these country. Greed and Arrogance can be are be reason. It may even be due to the selfish interest of the leaders that may rest to war. There are some set of people who are cashing out massively from any crisis the arms dealers are one of the few. Some officials use the medium to embezzle money in the name of charity. Some of these leaders are just ruthless an inconsiderate, they don’t mind going extra just to keep thier pocket fatten. There are more happening behind the scene that we don’ know of, they gamble with people lives. Causing chaos in the land, destruction of properties. It is very easy to destroy but it takes time to build. They are better ways of resolving issues instead of risking people lives that was meant be lived.
   Nothing good ever comes out from going to war, even people that were fortunate to live through some war wouldn’t want to see another war. Because it all sad and depressing, people lives will mean nothing at the time of war, even children are not safe, every one is on the heel and always looking at their shoulder. Survival instincts will suddenly kick in for those that can survive. This is no way to live, we didn’t come this world to be looking over our shoulders. Dialogue is the best way to resolve arguments. People in power knows this but no they are up for what they will gain. I hope we don’t see any more war. Enough with the guns let’s embrace LOVE !!!
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- do you have any survival tips during war period?
the best survival tips during times of war is to do anything possible and just survive. Wars are not fought theoretically and most times, it doesn't follow a particular set out order so the possibility of  surviving war because you've read out some shitty strategies from a particular book is very slim.

- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
lol! Have you ever witnessed a communal crisis? The last thing you would probably think of is any business you should be doing when you're at war or to even invest. In the first place, you're not even sure you can make it out of that war alive and you are talking about investing for a future that's uncertain?

- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
this is the only necessary question you should be asking and the sincere answer is that for most serious wars like what's happening in Russia and Ukraine, those residents in the major war affected zones always experience crippled economy and there is always no difference between the rich and the poor so everybody have to basically rely on humanitarian aids from external sources as they can't really go a out doing major business at all.

War isn't something anyone would want to wish he gets sucked Into to be honest.

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Does United States allow Ukraine to attack Russia that way? Like attacking Russian weapon factories, refineries, etc.? No, absolutely not! Since US wants to turn Ukraine to Russia's Afghanistan, this is why they neither gives them any weapon with a range more than 100-300 km range, nor allows them to manufacture one themselves.
I understand that this is ordinary Russian propaganda. But not to the same extent. Ukraine has already concluded five contracts with Western arms manufacturers, within the framework of which 5 joint defense enterprises were created in Ukraine.
https://hromadske.ua/ru/posts/ukraina-sovmestno-s-partnerami-sozdala-pyat-predpriyatij-po-proizvodstvu-oruzhiya-v-dalnejshem-takovyh-budet-desyatki-premer

Also, some defense companies, such as three French companies, are planning to expand weapons production in Ukraine.
https://www.epravda.com.ua/rus/news/2024/03/8/710930/

But Ukraine itself produces and even sells various weapons and military equipment for export on the world market. In the period 2005-2014 alone, Ukraine sold 202 aircraft, 232 helicopters, 714 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, 832 tanks, more than 28 thousand units of missiles and artillery weapons, more than 1.8 million units of small arms, etc.
https://www.epravda.com.ua/rus/publications/2020/10/28/666682/

The anti-tank systems "Corsar" and "Stugna-P" (export name "Skif"), as well as other high-precision ammunition from the state design bureau "Luch", have proven themselves well on the world market. And the quality of the Ukrainian anti-ship missiles “Neptune” has already been very well tested by the Russian Black Sea Fleet, which has already decreased by more than a third during the years of the war with Ukraine.
Recently, the number of various defense enterprises in Ukraine has increased sharply due to the needs of the front.

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What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
The simplest definition of war is a simple dispute between two countries that results in violence. It is never a pleasant experience or sight to behold. When a war breaks out, a lot of lives are lost, people go missing, children starve to death, businesses cease, and the nation is thrown into complete disarray. According to a little story, our grandparents told us, the only way to escape is to hide underground. The poor suffer the most during a war because they are unable to relocate to other safe places, cannot afford to stockpile food, lack access to healthcare, and lack guidance from security personnel. Meanwhile, the rich try their hardest to save their lives by utilizing their resources. War is the worst kind of conflict.

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War can have a severe consequences on the countries that are involved in war so we have to know how to prevent war just like we have been seeing in Ukraine now. The war has not ended and people are suffering without food or what to drink.
War can destroy the glory of a country if things is not quickly resolved and each country need to avoid that. War is very devastating with higher consequences and we all need to make proper prevention against war of any sort because what is happening in Ukraine now is worse and can be prevented.









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War can have a severe consequences on the countries that are involved in war so we have to know how to prevent war just like we have been seeing in Ukraine now. The war has not ended and people are suffering without food or what to drink.
War can destroy the glory of a country if things is not quickly resolved and each country need to avoid that. War is very devastating with higher consequences and we all need to make proper prevention against war of any sort because what is happening in Ukraine now is worse and can be prevented.
Over the course of a year and a half, according to Forbes calculations, Russia spent about $167.3 billion on the war with Ukraine.
The largest expenditure items are: support for military operations ($51.3 billion), military salaries ($35.1 billion), compensation to the families of the dead ($25.6 billion) and wounded ($21 billion) and the cost of destroyed equipment ($34 billion). This estimate does not include fixed non-military defense expenditures. It also does not include the economic losses of the aggressor country.

Every day, Russia spends about $300 million a day on the war with Ukraine. The Russian budget spent more in January–June 2023 than it planned to spend in the entire 2023. In Russia itself, rich in oil and gas due to the merciless exploitation of the indigenous peoples of Siberia and the Far East, where these deposits of natural resources are located, many settlements still remain ungasified, roads have been an eternal problem for many centuries, the living conditions of Russians in the outback, sometimes it is still at the level of the Middle Ages, but there they allow colossal amounts of money to be spent on killing their neighbors every day and for more than two years.

  Despite this, Russia is doubling its military budget and rapidly rushing into the economic abyss. Well, it's their choice.

https://forbes.ua/ru/war-in-ukraine/za-pivtora-roku-rosiya-vitratila-na-viynu-z-ukrainoyu-blizko-1673-mlrd-z-nikh-tilki-tekhniki-na- ponad-34-mlrd-rozrakhunki-forbes-16092023-16050

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War can have a severe consequences on the countries that are involved in war so we have to know how to prevent war just like we have been seeing in Ukraine now. The war has not ended and people are suffering without food or what to drink.
War can destroy the glory of a country if things is not quickly resolved and each country need to avoid that. War is very devastating with higher consequences and we all need to make proper prevention against war of any sort because what is happening in Ukraine now is worse and can be prevented.
Over the course of a year and a half, according to Forbes calculations, Russia spent about $167.3 billion on the war with Ukraine.
The largest expenditure items are: support for military operations ($51.3 billion), military salaries ($35.1 billion), compensation to the families of the dead ($25.6 billion) and wounded ($21 billion) and the cost of destroyed equipment ($34 billion). This estimate does not include fixed non-military defense expenditures. It also does not include the economic losses of the aggressor country.

Every day, Russia spends about $300 million a day on the war with Ukraine. The Russian budget spent more in January–June 2023 than it planned to spend in the entire 2023. In Russia itself, rich in oil and gas due to the merciless exploitation of the indigenous peoples of Siberia and the Far East, where these deposits of natural resources are located, many settlements still remain ungasified, roads have been an eternal problem for many centuries, the living conditions of Russians in the outback, sometimes it is still at the level of the Middle Ages, but there they allow colossal amounts of money to be spent on killing their neighbors every day and for more than two years.

  Despite this, Russia is doubling its military budget and rapidly rushing into the economic abyss. Well, it's their choice.

https://forbes.ua/ru/war-in-ukraine/za-pivtora-roku-rosiya-vitratila-na-viynu-z-ukrainoyu-blizko-1673-mlrd-z-nikh-tilki-tekhniki-na- ponad-34-mlrd-rozrakhunki-forbes-16092023-16050
The calculations you quote here have several radical flaws:

1. You seem to ignore the fact that Russia pays their army not in dollars or euros but in roubles. Printing roubles doesn't cost Putin anything.
2. Compensations to the families of killed and wounded military are counted based on what? On false, exaggerated numbers presented by the AFU?
3. Equipment costs are evaluated based on export prices. In reality it costs Putin not more than a price of a mid-sized LADA to build a tank.  Grin

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due to the merciless exploitation of the indigenous peoples of Siberia and the Far East

Sounds desperate. No, this won't work, mate. The latest election results showed that people of Russia are immune to this kind of separatist propaganda crap and about 85% have voted for Putin. And speaking about merciless exploitation of indigenous people, do you remember what happened to native people of North America?  Grin

By the way, in the regions of Ukraine, where the war is going on at the moment these "indigenous people" are in fact... Russians!  Grin
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- do you have any survival tips during war period?
First of all, this is an insane question, there's no way that this can ever be answered by anyone that has live their whole lives at a relative peace, war is a freak occurrence and it shouldn't ever be a thing that would lead people towards that event, the only survival tip that I can recommend is to get rich, you've got more chances of living if you've got more money since you can just easily hire a smuggler to get you out of the warzone and quickly seek asylum to a different country.
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
I don't think that's the first thing that you should think of, in a war, it's going to be almost lawless in the warzone so you first need to survive before you can do anything, when you're in an asylum, you'd be able to think of that thing but others will also be doing the same so make sure that your business is going to be unique. Regards to businesses benefiting from war, there's the weapons dealer as the top career that makes the most money out of it, the more ammo and guns you sell, the more you'll be able to rake in, in terms of cash.
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
Again, with my second answer, don't worry about it and make sure that you're all alive and outside of the warzone, the economy in a war is in shambles, you don't have to worry about it as people that should be dealing with it are already dealing with it anyway.



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3. Equipment costs are evaluated based on export prices. In reality it costs Putin not more than a price of a mid-sized LADA to build a tank.  Grin

Well, let’s go over how much Russian tanks cost and how much they cost. The Russian publication Ferra.ru calculated how much their domestic Russian tanks cost.
So, the most common tanks in Russia are the T-72. Most of them were produced in the USSR in the latest modification of the T-72B. The T-72B3 is the most widespread of the Russian modernizations, which has reached standards “about T-90”. And this is especially noticeable in the T-72 B3 series of the 2016 model, because they already have Relikt dynamic protection, the V-92S2F diesel engine with 1130 horsepower, an improved gun stabilizer and a new generation of surveillance equipment. In 2016 prices, only replacing dynamic protection and installing a new engine (+ minor modifications such as improved tracks) on an existing tank cost Russia 16.6 million rubles per tank.

In total, the upgrade to the T-72B3 took place in three waves - 2011, 2014 and 2016. In 2013, modernization cost 22 million rubles, and on top of that 30 million for the overhaul of the tank itself. Total - 52 million rubles. There is no more detailed information about how much a complete update cost later in open sources.

What about the T-90 and its versions? There is more information here, but rather in terms of export prices. The most modern T-90M Breakthrough costs, on average, 300-330 million rubles.

It is known that for 2011-2013, the T-90A Vladimir cost its own army approximately 118 million rubles per unit. But it is obvious that today the situation is different. Since there are no more accurate data, the amount in the range of 200-250 million will not be far from the truth.
https://www.ferra.ru/review/techlife/russian-army-vehicles-price.htm

The export price of the Russian T-90AM tank per unit is 4.25-4.5 million dollars. It is created on the basis of the T-90 and is equipped with a 125-mm 2A46M-5 cannon with the ability to launch anti-tank missiles, a 7.62-mm coaxial machine gun, 12.7 -mm remote controlled machine gun. The thickness of the frontal armor reaches 700 mm, and it is complemented by an active protection complex.

Content source: https://naukatehnika.com/rejting-osnovnyh-boevyh-tankov-po-ih-stoimosti.html
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The Russian Lada car has a cost of approximately 1.2 to 1.6 million rubles for the Russian population. Is it worth comparing its price with tanks, if only the modernization of the relatively new T-72 tank costs the Russian budget from 16 to 52 million rubles?
https://www.avtomobiltlt.ru/ceny.html

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- do you have any survival tips during war period?
First of all, this is an insane question, there's no way that this can ever be answered by anyone that has live their whole lives at a relative peace, war is a freak occurrence and it shouldn't ever be a thing that would lead people towards that event, the only survival tip that I can recommend is to get rich, you've got more chances of living if you've got more money since you can just easily hire a smuggler to get you out of the warzone and quickly seek asylum to a different country.
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
I don't think that's the first thing that you should think of, in a war, it's going to be almost lawless in the warzone so you first need to survive before you can do anything, when you're in an asylum, you'd be able to think of that thing but others will also be doing the same so make sure that your business is going to be unique. Regards to businesses benefiting from war, there's the weapons dealer as the top career that makes the most money out of it, the more ammo and guns you sell, the more you'll be able to rake in, in terms of cash.
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
Again, with my second answer, don't worry about it and make sure that you're all alive and outside of the warzone, the economy in a war is in shambles, you don't have to worry about it as people that should be dealing with it are already dealing with it anyway.

people are anxious about all these especially when you live around these countries where war has already begun.
it pauses all your plans in life. for a father who thinks of trying to build their kids a treehouse, he may stop it for now because the money to be spent for building this tree house will be spent for something else like food supply incase the war begins in their place as well.

families will likely move to a peaceful country and leave all they have, this is how a looming war will affect a family that is trying to live peacefully.









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when there's war in a society or a country, everyone suffers it. because the particular country will lack peace and with that, the citizens also encounter lack of rest of mind, and when minds aren't settle one cannot even be able to get good thought about something that would bring progress to his life talk more of others.
  When a particular country is at war, they will encounter a lot of economic  challenges because even the investors from the foreign countries would not even come to invest their money in that country, because no body will see fire 🔥  and keep pushing him self into it. Something that even fool will not do.
  When a particular country is at war, even their own day to day activities can not move well due to lack of peace in that country. Their market, farming activities,  and other activities can not be able to function well due to lack of peace in the country. All of which affect the economy significantly.
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1. You seem to ignore the fact that Russia pays their army not in dollars or euros but in roubles. Printing roubles doesn't cost Putin anything.
2. Compensations to the families of killed and wounded military are counted based on what? On false, exaggerated numbers presented by the AFU?

Indeed, payments in rubles to the relatives of those killed and wounded in the war in Ukraine cost Putin nothing. This costs the Russian people, who die en masse for the imperial ambitions of their Fuhrer. However, it is worth noting that mass printing of rubles will sharply increase inflation.

The Russian authorities included in the draft state budget for 2024 payments for the families of military personnel killed in Ukraine based on approximately 100 thousand dead. This follows from the calculations of the publication “We Can Explain,” which studied the draft federal budget for 2024-2026.

As the publication notes, in addition to one-time insurance payments for the deceased, relatives also receive monthly compensation. This year it is 21,922.12 rubles.

To support the families of those injured and disabled, as well as compensation to the families of the dead, the draft budget allocated more than 16 billion rubles, of which more than 5.2 billion are for monthly payments for dead military personnel. This means that the budget provides funds for payments for approximately 240 thousand people.
https://www.sibreal.org/a/v-byudzhete-rf-zalozhili-vyplaty-semyam-100-tysyach-pogibshih-na-voyne/32634866.html

In addition, Putin recently announced that family members of military personnel who died in a special operation in Ukraine will be paid an additional 5 million rubles. According to the law, he recalled, the families of deceased servicemen are paid compensation in the amount of 7 million 421 thousand rubles. The wounded will receive 2 million 968 thousand rubles provided by law, and an additional 3 million rubles.
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/5240237

Although, based on the fact that in Ukraine every day the irretrievable losses of the Russian occupiers amount to about a thousand people, compensation for the hundred thousand dead that is included in the budget for this year will clearly not be enough. Based on this, Russia calls up 30 thousand every month to fight in Ukraine to support this war. The senseless conveyor belt of death is working...

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I hate wars. I hate conflicts. Both they are almost unavailable. Wars and conflicts disrupts lives. It kills people - men, women, babies. Businesses are shot down. Schools are shot down. Boys become father's and look after their moms and siblings because their father has gone to war. Daughters become mothers and have to care for their siblings because they lose their mothers to war. Children with perfectly normal lives become refugees

Wars and conflicts doesn't give you the time to plan. It happens fast and it happens suddenly. It comes with a huge economic cost. And for us in the cryptocurrency, we are not exempted too. If you are a miner, your mining operation is affected because if you are caught up in the conflict, you have to abandon it and flee so that you do not get killed.

I am deeply saddened by these wars. I am not taking sides because there are human causalities in both sides.

- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
Wat is not a god thing, as it leads to destruction of lives and properties, war displaces people, it makes innocent children orphans, it's injures people, People loose there loved ones, it destroys the economic growth of a country, war should be condemned anywhere in the world,
No matter the individual differences or national difference it should be settled through dialogue not war, war has a negative effect not just on individuals , but it's effects extends to families and the society even the country at large, war should be discouraged anywhere and anytime.
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3. Equipment costs are evaluated based on export prices. In reality it costs Putin not more than a price of a mid-sized LADA to build a tank.  Grin

Well, let’s go over how much Russian tanks cost and how much they cost. The Russian publication Ferra.ru calculated how much their domestic Russian tanks cost.
So, the most common tanks in Russia are the T-72. Most of them were produced in the USSR in the latest modification of the T-72B. The T-72B3 is the most widespread of the Russian modernizations, which has reached standards “about T-90”. And this is especially noticeable in the T-72 B3 series of the 2016 model, because they already have Relikt dynamic protection, the V-92S2F diesel engine with 1130 horsepower, an improved gun stabilizer and a new generation of surveillance equipment. In 2016 prices, only replacing dynamic protection and installing a new engine (+ minor modifications such as improved tracks) on an existing tank cost Russia 16.6 million rubles per tank.

In total, the upgrade to the T-72B3 took place in three waves - 2011, 2014 and 2016. In 2013, modernization cost 22 million rubles, and on top of that 30 million for the overhaul of the tank itself. Total - 52 million rubles. There is no more detailed information about how much a complete update cost later in open sources.

What about the T-90 and its versions? There is more information here, but rather in terms of export prices. The most modern T-90M Breakthrough costs, on average, 300-330 million rubles.

It is known that for 2011-2013, the T-90A Vladimir cost its own army approximately 118 million rubles per unit. But it is obvious that today the situation is different. Since there are no more accurate data, the amount in the range of 200-250 million will not be far from the truth.
https://www.ferra.ru/review/techlife/russian-army-vehicles-price.htm

The export price of the Russian T-90AM tank per unit is 4.25-4.5 million dollars. It is created on the basis of the T-90 and is equipped with a 125-mm 2A46M-5 cannon with the ability to launch anti-tank missiles, a 7.62-mm coaxial machine gun, 12.7 -mm remote controlled machine gun. The thickness of the frontal armor reaches 700 mm, and it is complemented by an active protection complex.

Content source: https://naukatehnika.com/rejting-osnovnyh-boevyh-tankov-po-ih-stoimosti.html
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The Russian Lada car has a cost of approximately 1.2 to 1.6 million rubles for the Russian population. Is it worth comparing its price with tanks, if only the modernization of the relatively new T-72 tank costs the Russian budget from 16 to 52 million rubles?
https://www.avtomobiltlt.ru/ceny.html

Well, I hope you're not retarded and you understand that a tank cannot cost as much as a car. What I meant is that Putin doesn't give a damn because it's in roubles and he can print as much roubles as he wants. So for him these vehicles cost the same.  Grin

Anyway, $34 billion in lost equipment as you mentioned, seems a lot. If we take the most expensive tank (T90M) according to you it's 300 million roubles which is around $3 million per tank (which is still a lot, hard to believe they cost that much in Russia). So, for $34 billion you can build about 11500 tanks!  
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By the way, in the regions of Ukraine, where the war is going on at the moment these "indigenous people" are in fact... Russians!  Grin
Well, we can even agree with this statement of yours, if we consider that these are territories in which, back in the 9th-12th centuries, the then powerful state of Kievan Rus, with its center in Kyiv, was located. The possessions of Kievan Rus extended to almost the entire European territory of the current Russian Federation, including Moscow itself, which was then still a small village and belonged to the Kyiv prince Yuri Dolgoruky. Therefore, in this regard, Ukrainians can consider themselves descendants of Kievan Rus, that is, Russians.

And Russia arose only during the time of Tsar Peter the Great at the beginning of the 18th century. Before this, it was first conquered by the Mongol-Tatars for three hundred years, and then became the Muscovite kingdom or Muscovy and has nothing to do with Rus'. Therefore, Ukrainians can be considered Russians at the same time, but current Russians cannot be considered Russians. The aggressive genes of the Mongol-Tatars of present-day Muscovy still periodically manifest themselves in the fact that the Russian horde periodically attacks its neighbors.

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By the way, in the regions of Ukraine, where the war is going on at the moment these "indigenous people" are in fact... Russians!  Grin
Well, we can even agree with this statement of yours, if we consider that these are territories in which, back in the 9th-12th centuries, the then powerful state of Kievan Rus, with its center in Kyiv, was located. The possessions of Kievan Rus extended to almost the entire European territory of the current Russian Federation, including Moscow itself, which was then still a small village and belonged to the Kyiv prince Yuri Dolgoruky. Therefore, in this regard, Ukrainians can consider themselves descendants of Kievan Rus, that is, Russians.

And Russia arose only during the time of Tsar Peter the Great at the beginning of the 18th century. Before this, it was first conquered by the Mongol-Tatars for three hundred years, and then became the Muscovite kingdom or Muscovy and has nothing to do with Rus'. Therefore, Ukrainians can be considered Russians at the same time, but current Russians cannot be considered Russians. The aggressive genes of the Mongol-Tatars of present-day Muscovy still periodically manifest themselves in the fact that the Russian horde periodically attacks its neighbors.

Typical brainwashed Ukrainian. Ukraine as a state didn't exist before 1991, when it was given independence by Russia. Don't let the name "Kievan" mislead you. It was in fact a Russian state. Ukrainians didn't exist as a nation. There were some separate tribes, which didn't identify themselves as Ukrainians. Prince Oleg of Novgorod attacked Kiev and killed two princes (I don't remember their names google if interested) who were ruling there. Since that time Kiev was a part of Russian Empire and later the USSR. But if we're speaking about Russia, it has been around since year 862.
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I wonder how you can think about business when there's a war in your country.

Most of countries will use their armed forces to handle it, but if they lack of participants, they will force their civilians especially 18+ years old men to join in war and they also open for volunteers. The country will give a support about foods, place to sleep, and weapon, while the women and kids will stay in the most safest place.

So when there's a tension in your country, it's better to fly to other country. Don't too late because civilians will not able to escape except you have a duty to escape.

War is inevitable because there are few organizations that earn profit during war e.g. weapon seller.
The thing about business and feeding your family in war is common because every person can do the same when he or she sees his/her family suffering from starvation. There is no tip to start any business in war because the enemy force will not allow you to do so and in case you start it so to whom you will sell because every person suffering from war and have zero capital. The govt is also unable to feed the civilians because they trying to fight the war and feed the forces first.  In this situation, not only weapon sellers took benefits but also those countries who sent you food and health-related requirements and medicines. So my advice is if you're in such a situation then please if possible fly to the nearest state or at least leave that region.
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During the war only business is not possible to do any work properly the developing world is suffering the most from the embargoes and counter embargoes caused by the war. While the global economic situation was on the way to return to normal after the corona pandemic the war has put the global economic situation in a deep crisis and stress. Controlling wartime inflation is our greatest challenge at present in terms of the impact on banks the only way out of this crisis is to invest in bitcoin because the war will not have any impact on bitcoin.
When there is a war in a country, there is a country that takes business opportunities in this case, even though there are risks that must be taken in it. so we can see together that there are countries trying to offer food aid first, that is part of the strategy so that the country at war can win the favor of the leader, after that they offer work in another form, namely their weapons, this is offering themselves war troops. After the war ended, cooperation became increasingly wide open. This is the influence of economic war that cannot be controlled

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By the way, in the regions of Ukraine, where the war is going on at the moment these "indigenous people" are in fact... Russians!  Grin
Well, we can even agree with this statement of yours, if we consider that these are territories in which, back in the 9th-12th centuries, the then powerful state of Kievan Rus, with its center in Kyiv, was located. The possessions of Kievan Rus extended to almost the entire European territory of the current Russian Federation, including Moscow itself, which was then still a small village and belonged to the Kyiv prince Yuri Dolgoruky. Therefore, in this regard, Ukrainians can consider themselves descendants of Kievan Rus, that is, Russians.

And Russia arose only during the time of Tsar Peter the Great at the beginning of the 18th century. Before this, it was first conquered by the Mongol-Tatars for three hundred years, and then became the Muscovite kingdom or Muscovy and has nothing to do with Rus'. Therefore, Ukrainians can be considered Russians at the same time, but current Russians cannot be considered Russians. The aggressive genes of the Mongol-Tatars of present-day Muscovy still periodically manifest themselves in the fact that the Russian horde periodically attacks its neighbors.

Typical brainwashed Ukrainian. Ukraine as a state didn't exist before 1991, when it was given independence by Russia. Don't let the name "Kievan" mislead you. It was in fact a Russian state. Ukrainians didn't exist as a nation. There were some separate tribes, which didn't identify themselves as Ukrainians. Prince Oleg of Novgorod attacked Kiev and killed two princes (I don't remember their names google if interested) who were ruling there. Since that time Kiev was a part of Russian Empire and later the USSR. But if we're speaking about Russia, it has been around since year 862.
Well, let's figure out when the Ukrainians and the state of Ukraine appeared, and when Russia appeared. The name "Ukraine" first appeared in the Kyiv Chronicle in 1187. Then it either disappears or is used again, but it has been in constant use since Cossack times, that is, since the 16th-17th centuries.
“Ukraine” is one of the official names of the Cossack state, which arose after the uprising of Bohdan Khmelnitsky against Polish power in the middle of the 17th century (along with other names - Zaporozhye Army, Hetmanate, Little Russia). It is very important that in the Cossack chronicles of that time the word “Ukraine” means not just territory, but the fatherland, which requires the highest loyalty and which is a sacred duty to defend.
In the 18th century, as the Cossack state dissolved into the Russian Empire, the word “Ukraine” again disappeared from active political use. However, this name is preserved in folk culture (there are approximately 1,200 folk songs sung about Ukraine). It returns to politics and high culture in the 19th century, during the period of national revival. And in the 20th century it became generally accepted - the name of almost not a single state and even occupation entity on the territory of Ukraine in 1917–1991 could be done without it: Ukrainian People's Republic, Western Ukrainian People's Republic, Ukrainian State and even the Nazi Reichskommissariat “Ukraine”.

The Russian Empire, and then the Soviet Union, did everything to prevent Ukrainians from rising to the level of a nation, but to remain an ethnic group. A nation is not only political self-determination, but also the opportunity to create one’s own high culture in one’s native language. Therefore, the Ukrainian language was banned twice during the period of liberal reforms of Tsar Alexander II. During the Thaw, Khrushchev convinced Ukrainians and Belarusians that the faster they switched to Russian, the faster communism would be built. True, Gorbachev argued in private conversations that the Russification of Ukrainians was occurring naturally, because they themselves did not want their children to learn Ukrainian. At that time, mostly peasants spoke Ukrainian, and anyone who wanted to make a career in Soviet Ukraine had to switch to Russian.

The idea to call the Principality of Moscow the Russian Kingdom belongs to a descendant of Mamai from the Mongolian tribe of Kyiyat, known as Ivan IV Vasilyevich, nicknamed the Terrible.
The word “Russian” can have one application - as belonging to a territory, and not a people, which was then divided into Novgorodians and Pskovians (“we are Pskovites”), Suzdalians, and then Muscovites. Ivan the Terrible simply stole the name of Rus' when in 1547 the Grand Duke of Moscow was crowned Tsar and took the full title: “Great Sovereign, by the grace of God Tsar and Grand Duke of All Rus', Vladimir, Moscow, Novgorod, Pskov, Ryazan, Tver, Yugorsk , Perm, Vyatsky, Bo(u)Lgarsky and others.” With the seizure of new lands, the names of the occupied territories were added - “Tsar of Kazan, Tsar of Astrakhan, Tsar of Siberia and ruler of all Northern countries.” Did Ivan the Terrible know about the existence of the Russian Kingdom (voivodeship) in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth? He couldn’t help but know: his western neighbors and the once prosperous Kievan Rus did not give him peace.

In 1703, another Russian dictator, Peter I, built a new capital on the swamps, conducted several successful military campaigns, and in 1721 allowed himself to be called the titles of Emperor of All Russia and Father of the Fatherland. From that time on, “Russia”, “Russian”, “Russian” had not an ethnic, but a state designation. In fact, what a “Russian” second wife of Peter the Great is, in the modern patriotic understanding, Marta Samuilovna Skavronskaya-Kruse, the mother of Empress Elizabeth. What kind of “Russian” emperor was Karl Peter Ulrich von Schleswig-Holstein-Gottorf, Peter III. Then Catherine II, née Sophie Auguste Friederike von Anhalt-Zerbst-Dornburg. Literally until the last Tsar Nicholas II, there was more German blood in the blood of the Russian imperial house than the mythical “Russian”.

Manipulation of historical facts is an old Russian hobby. Once you lie, you have to lie constantly, inventing a story that takes the Russians’ breath away. It’s just that in others she evokes laughter and pity.

https://nv.ua/opinion/nastojashchaja-rus-o-chem-bojatsja-vspominat-rossijane-69010.html

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The Russian Lada car has a cost of approximately 1.2 to 1.6 million rubles for the Russian population. Is it worth comparing its price with tanks, if only the modernization of the relatively new T-72 tank costs the Russian budget from 16 to 52 million rubles?
https://www.avtomobiltlt.ru/ceny.html

Well, I hope you're not retarded and you understand that a tank cannot cost as much as a car. What I meant is that Putin doesn't give a damn because it's in roubles and he can print as much roubles as he wants. So for him these vehicles cost the same.  Grin
The laws of economics work equally for all countries without any exception. This means that no country can afford to unlimitedly print national money and use it to pay for the production of military products, which are then destroyed in the war, as well as for the deaths and injuries of soldiers to their relatives. This will cause any economy to fall and inflation to rise sharply.

The production of a tank and a civilian passenger car cannot cost the state the same. This is complete nonsense. As for Putin, he now doesn’t give a damn about anything except his reputation and saving his life after, on his initiative, Russia was mired in a brutal, bloody war in Ukraine, which has been going on for the third year and there is no end in sight. I think that in Russia almost everyone has already felt the cost of this madness.

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War make business owners not to make profits from their businesses because customers will be running for their dear life or managing the ones they have bought before the war started from the country.

You can see many countries war has reduced their economy to zero just because they allow war to involve between them and their neighboring country, no business will be moving well in such area, and their suppliers will be afraid to supply goods to those that demand for the goods because no one want to lose his life for war.

It will take some years before Russia and Ukraine businesses owners can recover from the damage of their businesses for the war that is affecting them, and it will make other countries to know that war always bring damage to the economy.

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War make business owners not to make profits from their businesses because customers will be running for their dear life or managing the ones they have bought before the war started from the country.

You can see many countries war has reduced their economy to zero just because they allow war to involve between them and their neighboring country, no business will be moving well in such area, and their suppliers will be afraid to supply goods to those that demand for the goods because no one want to lose his life for war.

It will take some years before Russia and Ukraine businesses owners can recover from the damage of their businesses for the war that is affecting them, and it will make other countries to know that war always bring damage to the economy.

War indeed has a profoundly disruptive impact on economies and individual livelihoods. When conflict arises, normal economic activities often grind to a halt. Business owners face plummeting profits as customers prioritize safety and survival over shopping. Additionally, the uncertainty and danger associated with war zones discourage suppliers and disrupt supply chains, further strangling business operations.
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Does United States allow Ukraine to attack Russia that way? Like attacking Russian weapon factories, refineries, etc.? No, absolutely not! Since US wants to turn Ukraine to Russia's Afghanistan, this is why they neither gives them any weapon with a range more than 100-300 km range, nor allows them to manufacture one themselves.
The Ukrainian Armed Forces have already carried out successful attacks on 14 Russian oil refineries, which led to a reduction in the export of petroleum products by a third. At the same time, some politicians in the United States were indeed dissatisfied with such attacks by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, since as a result, prices for gasoline and diesel fuel rose. But Ukrainian President Zelensky directly stated that he would not listen to this advice and that the terrorist country Russia can only be stopped if it strikes military facilities and other Russian facilities that support the invasion of Ukraine.

Considering that Russia continues to methodically launch missile and bomb attacks on populated areas of Ukraine, trying to destroy them to the ground, including such a multi-million Ukrainian city as Kharkov, killing civilians every day, it seems that any ban on attacks on military targets on Russian territory with the help of Western weapons has already been removed or will be removed in the near future.

Today the US Senate is scheduled to vote on the $60 billion aid bill to Ukraine, which was approved by the House of Representatives on April 20. Biden has already stated that he will sign it as quickly as possible and weapons, including long-range ATACMS shells, will soon arrive in Ukraine. Then it will be possible to clearly see at what depth in Russia military installations will explode under the blows of high-precision Western weapons.
In this regard, the Crimean Bridge, it seems, will soon tire and fall in parts to the bottom of the sea.

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The Ukrainian Armed Forces have already carried out successful attacks on 14 Russian oil refineries, which led to a reduction in the export of petroleum products by a third. At the same time, some politicians in the United States were indeed dissatisfied with such attacks by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, since as a result, prices for gasoline and diesel fuel rose. But Ukrainian President Zelensky directly stated that he would not listen to this advice and that the terrorist country Russia can only be stopped if it strikes military facilities and other Russian facilities that support the invasion of Ukraine.
Zelensky is of course an actor, but very poor acting by him. You need to realize one thing: there is no Ukraine and no allies. There's US fighting Russia with the hands of Ukrainians. So this theatrical show (can also be called a good cop vs bad cop scenario) is there just to show that US government cares about oil supply and prices. Do they care in fact? Definitely not! Actually, they're happy the prices are going up so they can get more money for their own oil. Zelensky is just a sockpuppet reading out loud stuff received from the US sources.    

Considering that Russia continues to methodically launch missile and bomb attacks on populated areas of Ukraine, trying to destroy them to the ground, including such a multi-million Ukrainian city as Kharkov, killing civilians every day, it seems that any ban on attacks on military targets on Russian territory with the help of Western weapons has already been removed or will be removed in the near future.
Even now, after years of war, the number of civilians killed in this war (not only by the Russians btw) is lower than in any other recent war. It's at least five times lower than Israel's violent assault on Gaza. And I'm talking only about initial 2-3 weeks of Israeli occupation of Palestine. And don't forget the infamous UN report exposing war crimes of AFU, including placing artillery and MLRS units in residential areas.  Wink  

Today the US Senate is scheduled to vote on the $60 billion aid bill to Ukraine, which was approved by the House of Representatives on April 20. Biden has already stated that he will sign it as quickly as possible and weapons, including long-range ATACMS shells, will soon arrive in Ukraine. Then it will be possible to clearly see at what depth in Russia military installations will explode under the blows of high-precision Western weapons.
In this regard, the Crimean Bridge, it seems, will soon tire and fall in parts to the bottom of the sea.
Don't worry, Ukraine is not going to receive $60 billion worth of military support. As to the ATACMS missiles, Ukraine already used them (slightly shorter range though) and they don't require too much effort from the Russians to intercept and destroy.

Even if Ukraine is going to hit the Crimea bridge, it won't change anything on the battlefield: AFU are losing more villages and towns every day, more territories being captured by Russia without any chance to regain later.   
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What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
The economic value of commodities will go up and the individuals will feel the heat more than the economy of the country and the most important  will be the life of individuals, and during war you hardly have access to commodities or even physical cash and things that are important during war is the safety of the people.

The simplest definition of war is a simple dispute between two countries that results in violence. It is never a pleasant experience or sight to behold. When a war breaks out, a lot of lives are lost, people go missing, children starve to death, businesses cease, and the nation is thrown into complete disarray. According to a little story, our grandparents told us, the only way to escape is to hide underground. The poor suffer the most during a war because they are unable to relocate to other safe places, cannot afford to stockpile food, lack access to healthcare, and lack guidance from security personnel. Meanwhile, the rich try their hardest to save their lives by utilizing their resources. War is the worst kind of conflict.
Even if war is dispute why cant they just settle it before taking people lives at risk, is not worth declaring anything on anyone, because if you see what people go through during war, mentally then the life's lost is not something anyone will want to experience, the sight of see dead bodies everywhere, you wont even think of the economy, the recure team during wars are trying during wars, yeah during war it is always difficult to navigate so the only people that its easy for are does that actually have money, but the government will also try their best to relocate people to a safe place.

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what is crazy is that they voted billions to support Ukraine while it keeps losing. they are planning to send nukes to Poland.
they have been dragging Poland into this war already of course they have been telling Putin is going to invade all, but they are also giving him reason to do it like putting nukes in that country.
 

What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
The economic value of commodities will go up and the individuals will feel the heat more than the economy of the country and the most important  will be the life of individuals, and during war you hardly have access to commodities or even physical cash and things that are important during war is the safety of the people.

The simplest definition of war is a simple dispute between two countries that results in violence. It is never a pleasant experience or sight to behold. When a war breaks out, a lot of lives are lost, people go missing, children starve to death, businesses cease, and the nation is thrown into complete disarray. According to a little story, our grandparents told us, the only way to escape is to hide underground. The poor suffer the most during a war because they are unable to relocate to other safe places, cannot afford to stockpile food, lack access to healthcare, and lack guidance from security personnel. Meanwhile, the rich try their hardest to save their lives by utilizing their resources. War is the worst kind of conflict.
Even if war is dispute why cant they just settle it before taking people lives at risk, is not worth declaring anything on anyone, because if you see what people go through during war, mentally then the life's lost is not something anyone will want to experience, the sight of see dead bodies everywhere, you wont even think of the economy, the recure team during wars are trying during wars, yeah during war it is always difficult to navigate so the only people that its easy for are does that actually have money, but the government will also try their best to relocate people to a safe place.

they shouldn't start a war in the first place. but because it's just that sometimes there is the need to do it because of the country's security. if one country is just going to mind its own business and not tangled with border issues. settle these issues before they get worse then, there won't be any wars. but because they ask superpowers to back them.









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what is crazy is that they voted billions to support Ukraine while it keeps losing. they are planning to send nukes to Poland.
they have been dragging Poland into this war already of course they have been telling Putin is going to invade all, but they are also giving him reason to do it like putting nukes in that country.
 
The real madness would have begun if Putin had not been stopped in Ukraine. Putin only understands power and will go as far as he is allowed. Therefore, the Baltic countries would definitely be next in his aggression. Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia understand this very clearly and help Ukraine in any way they can so as not to see destroyed houses and killed people on their territory. In fact, now Ukraine is fighting not only for its independence, but also the independence of all of Europe. Putin's Russia was not punished for the 2008 attack on Georgia, the 2014 attack on Ukraine and the seizure of the Crimean peninsula and parts of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions of Ukraine. That’s why he decided to take over all of Ukraine.

Have you seen what happened in just a month of occupation of the Kiev region by Russians? Dead civilians were lying right on the street: an elderly man on a cyclist, a woman with scattered groceries from her bag. They were killed simply for fun, because they felt permissiveness. And how many corpses were then removed from mass graves hastily dug in forest plantations and from basements with their hands tied behind their backs and bullets in the back of their heads. Would you like to see this in your country?

Of course, even Poland is afraid of such a repetition at home and therefore wants to place nuclear weapons on its territory to deter the horde of Russians. Escalation of hostilities and a reason for Putin to invade? The best reason for him to invade is weak neighbors. On the other hand, is Putin’s deployment of his nuclear weapons on the territory of Belarus not an escalation of the war with NATO?

Have you ever wondered why Finland and Sweden asked to join NATO after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine? Because the Finns have not yet forgotten how these neighbors attacked them in 1939-1940 and also do not want such a repetition. Russia's neighbors know what this horde is like. Your country is probably located far from Russia, so you feel relatively safe. To prevent this from happening again, Putin and his army of orcs must now be kicked in the teeth, so that many generations of these orcs will pay reparations to the Ukrainians for the evil they have done and remember the fatal mistake of their older generations.

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Well, let's figure out when the Ukrainians and the state of Ukraine appeared, and when Russia appeared. The name "Ukraine" first appeared in the Kyiv Chronicle in 1187. Then it either disappears or is used again, but it has been in constant use since Cossack times, that is, since the 16th-17th centuries.
“Ukraine” is one of the official names of the Cossack state, which arose after the uprising of Bohdan Khmelnitsky against Polish power in the middle of the 17th century (along with other names - Zaporozhye Army, Hetmanate, Little Russia). It is very important that in the Cossack chronicles of that time the word “Ukraine” means not just territory, but the fatherland, which requires the highest loyalty and which is a sacred duty to defend.
In the 18th century, as the Cossack state dissolved into the Russian Empire, the word “Ukraine” again disappeared from active political use. However, this name is preserved in folk culture (there are approximately 1,200 folk songs sung about Ukraine). It returns to politics and high culture in the 19th century, during the period of national revival. And in the 20th century it became generally accepted - the name of almost not a single state and even occupation entity on the territory of Ukraine in 1917–1991 could be done without it: Ukrainian People's Republic, Western Ukrainian People's Republic, Ukrainian State and even the Nazi Reichskommissariat “Ukraine”.

I do not agree with you completely here.

The meaning of the word Ukraine means okraina in Russian which can be translated as "at the border" that is at the border of Russia.
Ukraine has bever been a separate country. From times immemorial Kiev Rus and Moscovia has been one and the same country. It is all inhabited by one people.
These are not different peoples because they have been using the Russian language as their main mother tongue.
I have been living in USSR and then in Russia, I know lots of Ukrainian people and my father was a Ukrainian.
What you are trying to do is prove that Ukraine is a separate country and a separate people.
This is total BS. How can it be a separate people when they are using Russian as their mother tongue?
Ukrainian language was invented by communists in the times of USSR.
Ukrainians should be thankful to Lenin for this.
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Have you seen what happened in just a month of occupation of the Kiev region by Russians? Dead civilians were lying right on the street: an elderly man on a cyclist, a woman with scattered groceries from her bag. They were killed simply for fun, because they felt permissiveness. And how many corpses were then removed from mass graves hastily dug in forest plantations and from basements with their hands tied behind their backs and bullets in the back of their heads. Would you like to see this in your country?


Have you seen what happened to people living in 2 breakaway provinces of Ukraine, namely Donetsk and Luganks after their territories were regularly and systematically fired upon by Kiev nazi? This bombshelling started in 2014 and MSM of the West have been ignoring these massive killings that took place on a regular scale.
Putin was forced to invade Ukraine partially because of these killings that Kiev regime was deliberately executing starting from 2014. 
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The real madness would have begun if Putin had not been stopped in Ukraine. Putin only understands power and will go as far as he is allowed. Therefore, the Baltic countries would definitely be next in his aggression. Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia understand this very clearly and help Ukraine in any way they can so as not to see destroyed houses and killed people on their territory. In fact, now Ukraine is fighting not only for its independence, but also the independence of all of Europe. Putin's Russia was not punished for the 2008 attack on Georgia, the 2014 attack on Ukraine and the seizure of the Crimean peninsula and parts of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions of Ukraine. That’s why he decided to take over all of Ukraine.

And this is total BS again, my friend.
One has to be crazy to think that Russia wants to occupy Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia. This is Western propaganda. There is not a word of truth in this. The West wants to destroy Russia and they invent a lot of stories in order to justify the destruction of Russia that neocons in the US so much desire.
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- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
  • At the very start of the war if you can do it and you've got the money, do your best to seek asylum as quickly as possible but this will only be a thing that you should do when you're directly affected by the war erupting, if you're not affected at all or the proximity is too far, probably stay calm and watch the news update to the developments of the conflict, maybe stock up on non-perishable foods to make sure that your family won't be starving or something like that.
  • The best business that you can do is transportation or logistic services but that comes with the risk that you'll get caught in the cross fire because the higher the pay, the higher the risk that you'll have your services requested on the frontlines.
  • Normal movement of the market is going to be affected the most, once your in that state, there's little thing that you can do, if you've prepared for it before the war started near you or in your country then you wouldn't worry too much about this and you'd probably need to learn how to manage what's given to you when the rationing starts.



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Have you seen what happened to people living in 2 breakaway provinces of Ukraine, namely Donetsk and Luganks after their territories were regularly and systematically fired upon by Kiev nazi? This bombshelling started in 2014 and MSM of the West have been ignoring these massive killings that took place on a regular scale.
Putin was forced to invade Ukraine partially because of these killings that Kiev regime was deliberately executing starting from 2014. 
Until 2014, the Donetsk and Lugansk regions within Ukraine prospered. The main economic sectors of these regions were coal mining and metallurgy. At the time of separation from Ukraine, the separatists stated that the Donbass region supposedly fed the whole of Ukraine and without it Ukraine would not survive.

But in September last year, Russian Energy Minister N. Shulginov announced that the number of coal mines in the “DPR” - “LPR” had been decided to be reduced from 114 to 15.
Already in 2020, there were only six operating mines left in the LPR. As a result of this “restructuring,” according to local media, over 32 thousand miners lost their jobs. In the “DPR” at the end of 2022, only the Komsomolets Donbassa mine was more or less operating, producing over 1 million tons of coal. But even in mines that are still operating, equipment wear has reached 85%. The indicator "85%" means a pre-emergency condition.
Metallurgical enterprises in the region are already completely closed. Thus, the economy of Donbass and Lugansk as part of the “separate republics” was almost completely destroyed. They admit that these regions are now almost entirely subsidized by the Russian Federation.

What really happened to the people of these regions? From them the so-called first and second army corps were formed as part of the armed forces of the Russian Federation and they were sent to the front to fight against Ukraine. They were usually used in the front row to detect the firing points of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, so now there is almost no male population in the DPR and LPR. For this reason, public utilities do not work, the collapse is almost complete.

The Russian world brought decline and destruction to the Donbass, destroying a significant part of the civilian population. But Russia blames Ukraine for this. It’s so convenient to justify your atrocities.

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I see from you recent post that you are already out of arguments. Your arguments have come to an end and you are starting to collect any info despite it’s utter irrelevance.

People in those regions who were sent to the front mostly did that of their own free will. They were not kidnapped  like Ukrainian males are being searched and kidnapped by the Ukainian police all over Ukraine.

The US involvement into the conflict brought decline and destruction to the Donbass, destroying a significant part of the civilian population. But the US and Ukraine blames Russia for this. It’s so convenient to justify your atrocities.
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Until 2014, the Donetsk and Lugansk regions within Ukraine prospered. The main economic sectors of these regions were coal mining and metallurgy. At the time of separation from Ukraine, the separatists stated that the Donbass region supposedly fed the whole of Ukraine and without it Ukraine would not survive.

The Russian world brought decline and destruction to the Donbass, destroying a significant part of the civilian population. But Russia blames Ukraine for this. It’s so convenient to justify your atrocities.

Just google Donbass in 2014 vs now or Crimea 2014 vs now or Mariupol 2014 vs now. You will be shocked. All these locations looked like a shithole back in 2014. Even most Ukrainians and ex-Ukrainian locals admit it. Most of the towns across Ukraine, perhaps only with the exception of Kyiv haven't been renovated since Soviet times.
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Until 2014, the Donetsk and Lugansk regions within Ukraine prospered. The main economic sectors of these regions were coal mining and metallurgy. At the time of separation from Ukraine, the separatists stated that the Donbass region supposedly fed the whole of Ukraine and without it Ukraine would not survive.

The Russian world brought decline and destruction to the Donbass, destroying a significant part of the civilian population. But Russia blames Ukraine for this. It’s so convenient to justify your atrocities.

Just google Donbass in 2014 vs now or Crimea 2014 vs now or Mariupol 2014 vs now. You will be shocked. All these locations looked like a shithole back in 2014. Even most Ukrainians and ex-Ukrainian locals admit it. Most of the towns across Ukraine, perhaps only with the exception of Kyiv haven't been renovated since Soviet times.
I googled it and I stand by my opinion. I don’t want to give any quotes and facts from what I read and saw, since the reaction to them is known in advance, that this is Ukrainian propaganda. It is worth saying, of course, that the information on this topic on the Internet is quite old and reflects different propaganda opinions. This is understandable: there is a large-scale war going on, including in the information space. But even if we think logically, the economic situation and standard of living of people in the so-called DPR and LPR cannot be better, since military actions leave a direct negative imprint on them. If most of the mines and other enterprises in the region are closed, and there are almost no public utilities in the cities, then life there is definitely no better compared to how people lived in “Bandera’s” Ukraine.

Russia's aggression will end soon. Only after this will it be possible to objectively judge how people lived and are living in different regions of the once united Ukraine.

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Mosly I agree with your post but there's one thing that does not look right to me:

Russia's aggression will end soon. Only after this will it be possible to objectively judge how people lived and are living in different regions of the once united Ukraine.


I would rephrase it as follows:

The NATOs aggression will end soon. Only after this will it be possible to objectively judge how people lived and are living in different regions of the once united Ukraine.
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Mosly I agree with your post but there's one thing that does not look right to me:

Russia's aggression will end soon. Only after this will it be possible to objectively judge how people lived and are living in different regions of the once united Ukraine.


I would rephrase it as follows:

The NATOs aggression will end soon. Only after this will it be possible to objectively judge how people lived and are living in different regions of the once united Ukraine.
It was not NATO countries that attacked Ukraine. Ukraine was attacked by orcs who call themselves Russians. It is from them that Ukrainians are now defending themselves with the weapons that NATO countries provide to Ukraine. Now in Ukraine there are over 500 thousand Russian soldiers and officers who, with weapons in their hands, came to the territory of Ukraine to kill Ukrainians, but several hundred thousand of them have already found their death in Ukraine.

Already this year, events will occur in Russia itself that will significantly change the course of Russian aggression in Ukraine, and even the clouded consciousness of the orcs will begin to realize what they have done in Ukraine.

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It was not NATO countries that attacked Ukraine. Ukraine was attacked by orcs who call themselves Russians.


Time and again you are wrong but you are staying the right course according to the CIA propaganda and misinformation.
Ukraine ad Russia are populated by the same people but unfortunately the elite in Russia was too lazy and got carried away when they have been slealing funds from the ordinary Russians. And so Putin overlooked what was going on in Ukraine during the last 20 years.
In the end CIA was succesfull in duping and dumbing down ordinary Ukrainians and now masses of Ukrainians think that Russia is the axis of evil and you yourself call us "orcs" in your post.
Dehumanization is a typical method employed by the CIA.
      
At the same time everybody can see that Ukraine has been turned into a police state which has nothing to do with democracy whereas Russia can still be called some kind of democracy.
Of course I understand that generally speaking Russia is not an example of democracy but at least Russia is not a police state like Ukraine because here in Russia police are not kidnapping ordinary people out in the streets in order to use them as cannon fodder.


It is from them that Ukrainians are now defending themselves with the weapons that NATO countries provide to Ukraine. Now in Ukraine there are over 500 thousand Russian soldiers and officers who, with weapons in their hands, came to the territory of Ukraine to kill Ukrainians, but several hundred thousand of them have already found their death in Ukraine.


It is not ordinary Ukrainians who are killed by the Russian forces. It is nazies who must be disarmed and brought to justice because they have killed lots of russians in Ukraine.
When Ukrainians are captured by the Russian forces they are treated very gently and with friendliness because we are the same people.
At the same time the Ukrainian nazies are torturing, raping and killing any Ukrainians who have been discovered to be sympathetic to the policy of Russia of denazification and demilitarization.

 
Already this year, events will occur in Russia itself that will significantly change the course of Russian aggression in Ukraine, and even the clouded consciousness of the orcs will begin to realize what they have done in Ukraine.


And what events will occur in Russia? Please share your information. I am intrigued.
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And what events will occur in Russia? Please share your information. I am intrigued.

I can approximately guess what he meant: CIA funded and masterminded student riots in Russia (like the ones started by CIA in Georgia now), possible coup' d'état by the same high-standing military officers who sold Russia's attack plan to CIA back in 2022, Putin's assassination attempt, fuelling and promoting national movements among the nationalities of Russia etc etc... so a pretty much standard set of CIA tricks.  Grin     
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At the same time everybody can see that Ukraine has been turned into a police state which has nothing to do with democracy whereas Russia can still be called some kind of democracy.
Of course I understand that generally speaking Russia is not an example of democracy but at least Russia is not a police state like Ukraine because here in Russia police are not kidnapping ordinary people out in the streets in order to use them as cannon fodder.

Well, let's talk about the level of democracy and police states in Ukraine and Russia.
According to the democracy index, which can be found on Wikipedia, Ukraine ranks 87th in the overall table of countries in the world in terms of democracy and is classified as a hybrid regime of government. Russia ranks 146th in terms of democracy and is classified as an authoritarian government.

Further. In terms of the level of the electoral process and pluralism of opinions, Ukraine has 6.5 points, and Russia only 0.92 points. Since Ukraine and Russia are actually at war, try going to the square with a “No to War” banner in Moscow and Kyiv. In Kyiv, they won’t be taken to the police station for this, but in Moscow, such a person will stand for a matter of seconds and most likely will be convicted of discrediting the army. In Russia you can’t even say the word “war”; people are put behind bars for this.

In terms of the political participation of the people in governing the country, Ukraine has 7.22 points, Russia - 2.22.
In terms of political culture, Ukraine has 6.25 points, Russia - 3.75. It is understandable what kind of political culture the orcs might have.
In terms of civil liberties, Ukraine has 4.41 points, Russia - 2.35 points.

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https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%81_%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BC %D0%BE%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B8/%D0%A0%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%82%D0%B8% D0%BD%D0%B3_2022_%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B0

Ukraine still has its own problems in almost all spheres of public life, but it cannot even be compared with the completely authoritarian regime in Russia, where Putin will rule with the rights of a tsar for 30 years, that is, until 2030.

Regarding the fact that in Ukraine, military registration and enlistment office workers grab people on the streets and send them to war, there are excesses in this matter, and in Ukraine they are fighting against these phenomena. For each fact of violation of the rights of citizens, inspections are carried out and the guilty employees of the military registration and enlistment offices are then sent to the front themselves.
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https://war.gordonua.com/amp/ochen-mnohie-rabotniki-ttsk-prosto-otpravljajutsja-v-boevye-podrazdelenija-venislavskij-rasskazal-o-reahirovanii-na-narushenie-prav-cheloveka-voenkomami-1706388. html

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Does United States allow Ukraine to attack Russia that way? Like attacking Russian weapon factories, refineries, etc.?
Coming back to this topic after a couple of months I see a couple of you quoted this last line of my posts out of context and responded to it thinking you are debunking something. One of you even called it "Russian propaganda"!
First of all my friends, read the whole discussion, not just one line in a series of comments.

In this context, my response was to someone who claimed Ukraine has no way of winning just because Russia is stronger. I disagreed and brought up two actual examples and said the reason is Ukraine isn't attacking Russian infrastructure. Read the whole comment and the bold parts below:
I think even if they fight for their country it won't change anything, Russia's weapons are more complete than Ukraine's, enthusiasm alone is not enough, you need more than that.
Or has this become a scenario that must happen and is what the global elite wants?
I have to disagree since history is filled with examples where the invaded country defeats the invaders who had "more complete weapons". I can even give you two live examples: Yemen and Palestine. Both are facing a much more powerful and much better equipped invaders and both have been defeating their enemies.

For example in case of Yemen the invasion lasted more than 8 years and only recently it "paused" with a cease fire. Do you know why? The invaders (ie. US-Arab coalition) were forced to stop the invasion and slaughter the moment Armed Forces of Yemen started hitting them where it hurt the most, deep into their territories and their infrastructure like the Aramco oil facilities.

Does United States allow Ukraine to attack Russia that way? Like attacking Russian weapon factories, refineries, etc.? No, absolutely not! Since US wants to turn Ukraine to Russia's Afghanistan, this is why they neither gives them any weapon with a range more than 100-300 km range, nor allows them to manufacture one themselves.

Secondly, lets review what happened over the past couple of months ever since I wrote this and you guys responded this way.
1. Ukraine performs a handful of attacks on Russian energy infrastructure.
2. The order comes down from the boss in Washington to stop because it affects energy price and it would destroy United States economically https://www.ft.com/content/98f15b60-bc4d-4d3c-9e57-cbdde122ac0c
3. The attacks stop

Now go back to my post once again:
Does United States allow Ukraine to attack Russia that way? Like attacking Russian weapon factories, refineries, etc.? No, absolutely not!
The answer is No, US regime will not allow Ukraine to win this war or attack Russian infrastructure.

However, now that a weakness is found in US regime, each time Zelensky want something from Biden they'll pull off a small attack on Russian oil facilities to put pressure on Biden administration to get it!
That's pretty much it.
The effects of these attacks weren't even big enough to even slow down the Russian advances!

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May 08, 2024, 06:17:45 AM
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Well, let's talk about the level of democracy and police states in Ukraine and Russia.
According to the democracy index, which can be found on Wikipedia, Ukraine ranks 87th in the overall table of countries in the world in terms of democracy and is classified as a hybrid regime of government. Russia ranks 146th in terms of democracy and is classified as an authoritarian government.


In reply to your statement and referring to Wikipedia I would say that Wikipedia is a voice of the globalist elite.
Therefore this source can't be trusted.
The globalists control all mass media of the west. Therefore one has to be very dumbed down to be seriously influenced by this piece of globalist propaganda.


Further. In terms of the level of the electoral process and pluralism of opinions, Ukraine has 6.5 points, and Russia only 0.92 points. Since Ukraine and Russia are actually at war, try going to the square with a “No to War” banner in Moscow and Kyiv. In Kyiv, they won’t be taken to the police station for this, but in Moscow, such a person will stand for a matter of seconds and most likely will be convicted of discrediting the army. In Russia you can’t even say the word “war”; people are put behind bars for this.

In terms of the political participation of the people in governing the country, Ukraine has 7.22 points, Russia - 2.22.
In terms of political culture, Ukraine has 6.25 points, Russia - 3.75. It is understandable what kind of political culture the orcs might have.
In terms of civil liberties, Ukraine has 4.41 points, Russia - 2.35 points.

Source:
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%81_%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BC %D0%BE%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B8/%D0%A0%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%82%D0%B8% D0%BD%D0%B3_2022_%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B0


This source is not trustworthy. Therefore I am not convinced.


Regarding the fact that in Ukraine, military registration and enlistment office workers grab people on the streets and send them to war, there are excesses in this matter, and in Ukraine they are fighting against these phenomena. For each fact of violation of the rights of citizens, inspections are carried out and the guilty employees of the military registration and enlistment offices are then sent to the front themselves.
Source:
https://war.gordonua.com/amp/ochen-mnohie-rabotniki-ttsk-prosto-otpravljajutsja-v-boevye-podrazdelenija-venislavskij-rasskazal-o-reahirovanii-na-narushenie-prav-cheloveka-voenkomami-1706388. html
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Again this is a piece of Ukraininan propaganda. As always you twisted the facts.
According to the laws of Ukraine everyone of male sex aged 18 to 60 must fight the Russians and it does not matter whether he wants or does not want to be enlisted.
People do not want to be sent to the meat grinder and that's the end of it. So this is not democracy.
Any inspection would come to a conclusion that no law has been violated when anyone is sent to the meat grinder against his will.
 
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Again this is a piece of Ukraininan propaganda. As always you twisted the facts.
According to the laws of Ukraine everyone of male sex aged 18 to 60 must fight the Russians and it does not matter whether he wants or does not want to be enlisted.
People do not want to be sent to the meat grinder and that's the end of it. So this is not democracy.
Any inspection would come to a conclusion that no law has been violated when anyone is sent to the meat grinder against his will.
 
In Russia, as in Ukraine, there is universal conscription. This means that in the event of mobilization, every citizen of military age who does not have the right to deferment is obliged to serve in the army and fight for his country, regardless of his desire. In Russia, this is regulated by Article 17 of the Federal Law of February 26, 1997 N 31-FZ (as amended on March 23, 2024) “On mobilization preparation and mobilization in the Russian Federation.”

  On September 21, 2022, Putin issued a decree on partial mobilization in the Russian Federation and on the same day made an appeal to citizens in which he announced that he was announcing partial mobilization. It started on the same day. The document he signed did not say how many people were planned to be drafted - the number and timing were to be established by the Russian Ministry of Defense. On the same day, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu announced that they intend to conscript 300 thousand people. On October 28, 2022, the head of the Ministry of Defense reported to the president that partial mobilization was completed.
Putin, summing up the results of 2023, said that after partial mobilization in the fall of 2022, a large campaign began to attract people on a voluntary basis. He said that 486 thousand people had been recruited in a year, so there was no need for further mobilization. But hidden mobilization in Russia has been and is being carried out throughout the entire period of military operations against Ukraine.

Therefore, I can disappoint you. If Russia has a problem with live meat on the Ukrainian front, you may also be forcibly mobilized into the massacre that Putin has organized.

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Therefore, I can disappoint you. If Russia has a problem with live meat on the Ukrainian front, you may also be forcibly mobilized into the massacre that Putin has organized.


But this hasn't happened yet and most likely it would not happen.
For this to happen the West must start conscripting male population in Western countries because Ukraine is already short of man power. The question is will the West start a war with Russia? I am afraid that it would be very difficult for the West to mobilize large quantities of man power. Nobody wants to die in the name of democracy in interpretation of Biden and company.
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Zelensky is of course an actor, but very poor acting by him. You need to realize one thing: there is no Ukraine and no allies. There's US fighting Russia with the hands of Ukrainians. So this theatrical show (can also be called a good cop vs bad cop scenario) is there just to show that US government cares about oil supply and prices. Do they care in fact? Definitely not! Actually, they're happy the prices are going up so they can get more money for their own oil. Zelensky is just a sockpuppet reading out loud stuff received from the US sources.    

Then we can also say that China is at war with the West at the hands of the Russians. It is now beneficial for China to weaken both the United States and Europe and Russia through war. China is now taking advantage of the situation and buying oil and gas from Russia at a third lower price than they were previously supplied by Russia to European countries. China is now using Russia as its raw materials appendage and Russia is forced to buy Chinese goods instead of European ones. In exchange for some help from Russia, Putin is now allowing China to regain control of previously lost territories in Siberia and the Far East without war. And not only these territories.

  Considering that in the last nine years there has been a continuous decrease in the population of Russia, and also that the war with Ukraine continues to take the lives of the most active Russians, they are being replaced on Russian territory by the Chinese. Russian women give preference to hardworking Chinese men instead of lazy and always drunk Russian men.

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  Considering that in the last nine years there has been a continuous decrease in the population of Russia, and also that the war with Ukraine continues to take the lives of the most active Russians, they are being replaced on Russian territory by the Chinese. Russian women give preference to hardworking Chinese men instead of lazy and always drunk Russian men.

No you are wrong here, my dear friend. Not in the first part but in the second. Russian women are not happy about mating with Chinese men. Please take note that those Chienese that come to live in Russia are not the Chinese that live in Southern China. These are totally different people. Those Chinese who come to Russia are extremely poor and dirty. Their appearances are very unpleasant and they smell badly.

The real problem for Russia now is uncontrolled migration from the Middle Asia but not from China. However numerous activists in Russia are now publicly speaking out about this problem and it seems that the state policy toward migration is starting to change somewhat.

I have been practicing Shotokan karate for 30 years now and during the last few years I have been practicing more and more hard style karate stuff in order to better prepare myself for any kind of a conflict with such a migrant.    
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Today the US Senate is scheduled to vote on the $60 billion aid bill to Ukraine, which was approved by the House of Representatives on April 20. Biden has already stated that he will sign it as quickly as possible and weapons, including long-range ATACMS shells, will soon arrive in Ukraine. Then it will be possible to clearly see at what depth in Russia military installations will explode under the blows of high-precision Western weapons.
In this regard, the Crimean Bridge, it seems, will soon tire and fall in parts to the bottom of the sea.
Don't worry, Ukraine is not going to receive $60 billion worth of military support. As to the ATACMS missiles, Ukraine already used them (slightly shorter range though) and they don't require too much effort from the Russians to intercept and destroy.

Your predictions that Ukraine would not receive about $60 billion in military aid from the United States did not come true. Russia spent a lot of effort and money to prevent such assistance from being provided, but it was allocated, albeit with a long delay. Of course, the delay in the allocation of such assistance for six months is now affecting the front. Military aid is already reaching Ukrainians on the front lines, but not yet in sufficient quantities. The Russian occupiers seek to exploit the difficulties with weapons for Ukraine to the maximum in order to seize as much territory of Ukraine as possible and therefore attack wherever such an opportunity arises. But such opportunities for Russians will soon become available and they understand this.

Now Russia is also attacking Ukraine in the Kharkov region near the city of Vovchansk. Whether they want to capture Kharkov, or get within artillery range of it, or whether this is just a diversionary strike to force Ukraine to weaken its defense of the Donetsk direction, time will tell. But most likely, this next adventure of the Russians will end with the loss of several tens of thousands more soldiers and a lot of armored vehicles that are already in short supply for the Russians.

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Then we can also say that China is at war with the West at the hands of the Russians.
No, we can't say that. Ukraine is a sockpuppet, controlled by the US. Russia is a global superpower (think US, China) therefore it can't be controlled. China can't control Russia but they can be friends with Russia and eventually control the entire world.

It is now beneficial for China to weaken both the United States and Europe and Russia through war.
It's definitely beneficial for China to weaken the US and EU but not Russia. China needs an ally in case WW3 breaks out.

China is now taking advantage of the situation and buying oil and gas from Russia at a third lower price than they were previously supplied by Russia to European countries.
Energy prices tend to fluctuate so how can you tell what would the oil and gas prices be if Russia would continue to sell directly? Perhaps it would be the same they're offering to China? Btw, any proof they're selling gas and oil at lower prices than before? Perhaps a link to a reputable source?  

China is now using Russia as its raw materials appendage and Russia is forced to buy Chinese goods instead of European ones.
That's a huge opportunity and a huge new market for China. While Western companies were forced to leave this market and lose billions due to sanctions, their factories and other assets in Russia getting nationalized etc Chinese car manufacturers for example are entering the Russian market. The worst part for the Western producers is that this process is irreversible: Chinese companies are opening factories, dealerships and people in Russia are getting used to these new brands with no desire to get back to old conventional Western brands. Who do you think is a loser in this situation?  

In exchange for some help from Russia, Putin is now allowing China to regain control of previously lost territories in Siberia and the Far East without war. And not only these territories.
Crazy things are happening in the parallel universe of retarded Ukrainian propaganda.  Grin

  Considering that in the last nine years there has been a continuous decrease in the population of Russia,
Ahh, it's always a pleasure to catch a lying troll red-handed:


and also that the war with Ukraine continues to take the lives of the most active Russians, they are being replaced on Russian territory by the Chinese. Russian women give preference to hardworking Chinese men instead of lazy and always drunk Russian men.
I think you meant Ukrainian men here? Most Ukrainians are lazy and always drunk. At 30yo most of them look like they're in their 50ies! And I already posted before, that many AFU recruits are so drunk they can't even stand straight during the training exercises.

Meanwhile Russians keep capturing new territories, they've captured about 110 square km up North from Kharkiv recently. Not bad for lazy and always drunk huh? All these territories are lost forever, although this (and also hundreds of thousands of dead Ukrainians) could have been easily avoided by Zelensky (the US). Sign a peace treaty with Russia and offer them Donbas and Crimea. That's it, the war will stop, people will stop dying, Ukraine will keep their statehood, Putin will get what he wants.  Cool
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My reply to Argoo:

I have found an interesting article about what is currently going on in Russia and I decided to have it translated into English because in the end this info contains some interesting ideas about former president of Ukraine Yanukovich:

The Russian Game of Thrones has reached a stage that has been talked about for a long time, but only now has it become inevitable. In conditions of compression of rental resources, small clans and second- and third-tier groups stealing billions and tens of billions  were thrown under the knife. But in the current conditions, this is already catastrophically insufficient, so the highest circle, raking in trillions, is now coming under attack. And their assets, after a short audit (that’s why Belousov was sent to substitute Shoigu), will be redistributed among the remaining ones.
“Stability” for a system that is diving down looks exactly like this and no other way. The whole can only be saved at the cost of sending a part of the system to the bioreactor.

Considering that the created social system and control system are closed in on themselves, this does not solve the key problem of sustainability, since in order to maintain it  you will have to sacrifice someone else again, passing the next critical point.

There is a Feigenbaum principle that describes bifurcations in a catastrophic system, which says that the frequency of such bifurcations will increase - that is, the time between slaughter of the next highest clan will decrease. And this is the direct reason for the future civil war in Russia and the collapse of the entire system into independent communities, since in parallel with slaughtering  some groups, other groups will begin the process of self-isolation from the system as a whole, saving what they have acquired by stealing assets of people of the former USSR in dirty privatization schemes of 1990-ies.

This is roughly how Yanukovych laid the foundation for a civil war in Ukraine, when he began not just to “pinch off” pieces, but launched the process of destroying all competing oligarchic groups. Yanukovych was as dumb as a plug, and he began to smash everyone at once, which led to the consolidation of the oligarchs against him and to the Maidan of 2013/2014. The Kremlin’s senses are more subtle, and they deal with competitors one by one, but the process itself is absolutely identical to what was going on in Ukraine prior to Maidan.

And here are my comments to this:

In fact it is the US that is guilty of setting up a rotten capitalist oligarch system in Russia after USSR disintegrated in 1991.

At that time the US assisted Yeltsin’s Russia with privatization. It was the US economic advisors who told Yeltsin’s Russia how to change Russian economy from communist economy to a free market economy. 

But it turned out that these advisors gave Russia wrong lessons on the market economy. Privatization of tens of thousands of industrial enterprises of the former USSR was carried out with colossal injustice whereby all the property that was privatized was grabbed by thieves at prices that were far below fair market prices. In fact one can say that essentially all the privatized property was stolen from people of Russia.

The same injustice was served in Ukraine.

Only Belarus did not allow grand theft of this scale to take place and there was no privatization on such a grand scale in Belarus . After this grand theft the new class of filthy rich Russian oligarchs came to the stage. The rich became filthy rich and the poor became extremely poor.

All of this was done under a watchful eye of the Clinton administration in the White House.

Then Putin came to power. Regretfully for patriots of Russia Putin spoke out many times that he was not going to reconsider the results of privatization in Russia. So he was not objecting to the oligarchs keeping their loot. But he told them that they could continue doing business in Russia only on a condition that they share some part of their profits with Kremlin and not interfere in politics.

In the last 10 years it has become painfully clear to me that it was the US that created this new class of oligarchs in Russia and it was done on purpose because the new oligarchs understood very well that the people of Russia would never accept the results of privatization in Russia. And so they started to move all their profits out of Russia and put their money in the Western banks. The richest people of Russia have been plundering Russian resources and regularly took their capitals outside of Russia by moving their money to UK, USA and other offshore jurisdictions.

Recently you told me in this forum about Yanukovich that he was a bad person because he did this and that. I am not going to argue with you whether he was a good person or a bad person because his character has nothing to do with what’s now going on in Ukraine. He was a thief just like so many thieves in Russia and Ukraine at that time.

The message that I want to get across to you is the fact that the US created a system of corruption  in Ukraine  and Russia in order to be able to take advantage of this system of corruption and exploit the country’s population and resources by impoverishing ordinary people of Ukraine and Russia.

The US calculated beforehand how to take advantage of this little war between president Yanukovich and other Ukrainian oligarchs and arranged Maidan in Ukraine by using the oligarchs that were offended by Yanukovich.

As regards Russia the US was massively exploiting Russia and its population. However when Putin came to power he managed to protect Russia from this exploitation of Russia by greedy US corporations but he did not punish all those thieves (oligarchs) in Russia that became filthy rich as a result of illegal privatization in the 90-ies.

Now the US desires to carry out regime change in Russia. However it became clear to millions of ordinary people of Russia that the US is not a friend but a very conniving enemy whose main goal is to enslave and exploit them just like it was done in 1990-ies in the Yeltsin’s Russia.

On the other hand Putin still does not plan to reconsider the results of privatization in Russia and the ruling clans of Russia still want to continue enjoying their privileged status that was achieved by them as a result of privatization.

We will see how it will develop from here.   

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@gloffs. I largely agree with the above article and your views. After the collapse of the USSR, oligarchic clans came to power in almost all republics and mercilessly robbed their people. This happened and is happening in both Russia and Ukraine. But this is not what led to the events of Maidan in Ukraine, but precisely political motives. Yanukovych, at Putin’s prompting, sharply abandoned the course of Ukraine’s accession to the European Union, and this was the reason why Ukrainians came to the Maidan of Independence in Kyiv with mass protests. Yanukovych and his entourage could continue to rob the Ukrainian people, as almost all presidents did before him and after him. But it was precisely his refusal to join the European Union that the people did not forgive him, which led to the current dramatic consequences.

Putin became the worst ruler in Russia because he and his entourage not only robbed their people. Putin physically eliminated any opposition to him in all spheres, deprived the people of freedom of speech and expression of their views. He practically uncontrollably manages at his own discretion all government structures, including the State Duma, which are designed to restrain his power. In fact, he is a dictator, a tsar in Russia. Uncontrolled power has never led to good things. The only thing Putin cannot do is create a relatively fair system for the distribution of material wealth in society, because he himself will be destroyed by his so-called elite. He robs the people and allows his associates to do it. Compare his condition at the time of coming to power with the current one. Did he buy all this for the president's salary?

But because of unlimited power and permissiveness, he imagined himself almost a god and, as in a fairy tale, he wanted to become the ruler of the whole world and redraw the existing borders of states at his discretion and decide which peoples and nations should exist and which should not. But higher powers will not allow the devil to rule for long.

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But because of unlimited power and permissiveness, he imagined himself almost a god and, as in a fairy tale, he wanted to become the ruler of the whole world and redraw the existing borders of states at his discretion and decide which peoples and nations should exist and which should not. But higher powers will not allow the devil to rule for long.


Most of what you said above is true but I believe that you exaggerated his wish to become the ruler of the world, Nobody knows what's going on inside Putin's mind. You don't know and I don't know. Anyway we will see what happens next because I know that people can't be fooled all the time. Not me and not you. I am watching, analysing and drawing my own conclusions. But at the same time I know that MH-17 was not shot down by Russian military or by anyone in Russia. I am sure that this was a provocation done by CIA.
Have you ever read the book Confessions of an economic hitman? This book is an excellent reading material showing the methods of political manipulation employed by CIA and NSA.
And again CIA was behind the Maidan coup. And I know that 9-11 was an inside job. There are so many facts that reveal the true face of American imperialism.
In other words globalists that rule the US and the whole world are  not better than Putin. You state that Putin is a dictator like Hitler but at the same time one can say that Putin, Biden, Macron are just actors or puppets controlled by invisible puppet masters.
The ruling elite in Russia uses one method of manipulating electorate, the ruling elite in the US uses another method to do the same. Noone can be trusted.
In other words your hate toward Putin is unreasonable.

Zelensky is a SOB but he is your SOB. Therefore he is a person of a high morale and character. Putin is an SOB as well but he is not your SOB. So you compare him to Hitler. This is stupid logic used by the US.  
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To survive during war, it is necessary first of all to eliminate mass gatherings of people. Try to minimize going out, order groceries delivered to your home, and be prepared to quickly navigate in case of danger.

I doubt it about doing business during war. It will be much easier to move to a safer place if you feel that you are not able to feed your family.

The state supports military personnel and members of their families in every possible way. There are various benefits and payments. The most important help in this difficult time is support, people give their lives so that we can sleep peacefully and for that we need to be grateful!

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But this is not what led to the events of Maidan in Ukraine, but precisely political motives.

Yanukovych, at Putin’s prompting, sharply abandoned the course of Ukraine’s accession to the European Union, and this was the reason why Ukrainians came to the Maidan of Independence in Kyiv with mass protests. Yanukovych and his entourage could continue to rob the Ukrainian people, as almost all presidents did before him and after him. But it was precisely his refusal to join the European Union that the people did not forgive him, which led to the current dramatic consequences.
No, the cookies was the main reason. Iraq, Libya, Ukraine, Belarus, Venezuela, Russia, Serbia, Moldova, just recently Georgia. These ""mass protests" are carbon copies of each other and are masterminded and sponsored by the CIA. How many lives and countries ruined without a single gunshot, without a single American soldier stepping on their soil... unfortunately, many stupid peeps with room temperature IQ like Argoo still continue to swallow the bait.... Grin 
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Yeah. That's it. The cookies handed out by Victoria Nuland herself.
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May 15, 2024, 06:56:52 AM
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Meanwhile Russians keep capturing new territories, they've captured about 110 square km up North from Kharkiv recently. Not bad for lazy and always drunk huh? All these territories are lost forever, although this (and also hundreds of thousands of dead Ukrainians) could have been easily avoided by Zelensky (the US). Sign a peace treaty with Russia and offer them Donbas and Crimea. That's it, the war will stop, people will stop dying, Ukraine will keep their statehood, Putin will get what he wants.  Cool
I can even make you happy. On the sixth day of continuous attacks, Russian occupiers in the Kharkov region have already captured 190 square kilometers of Ukrainian land and a dozen villages. The occupiers are making the most of the temporary difficulty with weapons from the Ukrainian Armed Forces, but they are already arriving at the front. Soon Russian soldiers will feel this and will not be happy that they came to visit uninvited. But this Russian offensive has already slowed down. When the Russians captured a significant part of the Kharkov region in 2022, they also said that they had come forever. But then they ran away in such a way that they abandoned a lot of serviceable armored vehicles in order to run away faster than they could go. It will be so this time too.

Ukraine has already stated several times that it will not conduct any negotiations with Putin, because he never respects them. On the other hand, Ukraine does not trade either its lands or its people. It is also possible that this time, having received Donbass and Crimea, Putin would have calmed down, because several times he was on the verge of failure and even crossed himself, which ended relatively well for him. But it’s unlikely that now he’s praying to God and not the devil. At the same time, the Ukrainian people do not want to give up their land to the occupiers and want a lasting and just peace, in which Russia must compensate Ukraine for the damage caused to it. The war will continue until the last occupier, alive or dead, leaves Ukrainian soil.

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May 15, 2024, 07:05:45 AM
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But this is not what led to the events of Maidan in Ukraine, but precisely political motives.

Yanukovych, at Putin’s prompting, sharply abandoned the course of Ukraine’s accession to the European Union, and this was the reason why Ukrainians came to the Maidan of Independence in Kyiv with mass protests. Yanukovych and his entourage could continue to rob the Ukrainian people, as almost all presidents did before him and after him. But it was precisely his refusal to join the European Union that the people did not forgive him, which led to the current dramatic consequences.
No, the cookies was the main reason. Iraq, Libya, Ukraine, Belarus, Venezuela, Russia, Serbia, Moldova, just recently Georgia. These ""mass protests" are carbon copies of each other and are masterminded and sponsored by the CIA. How many lives and countries ruined without a single gunshot, without a single American soldier stepping on their soil... unfortunately, many stupid peeps with room temperature IQ like Argoo still continue to swallow the bait.... Grin 

The media is a very powerful weapon to make people believe what is on the other side though. If they say Ukraine is winning, people will actually believe even when they are in the middle of a battle and their forces are already retreating, they still have it in mind that they will win one day. Not thinking that Zelensky is already out of their country.

War always ends in extending borders though and because those breakaway regions seem to prefer to be part of Russia, I guess they are already hard to take back. Unless they wanted to prolong this war forever. The latest news I heard was that Russia is advancing.

The economy of Russia will just improve since they already acquired regions. It was said these are region that produces grains.


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May 15, 2024, 08:19:00 AM
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At the same time, the Ukrainian people do not want to give up their land to the occupiers and want a lasting and just peace, in which Russia must compensate Ukraine for the damage caused to it. The war will continue until the last occupier, alive or dead, leaves Ukrainian soil.

I must dissapoint you here, Argoo.
Russia does not want to steal the land of Ukraine or take it by force. What is does want is to denazify and demilitarize the land of Ukraine because puppet masters in the US have been planning to install miliary bases all over Ukraine and encircle Russia with their missiles pointed in the direction of Russia. 
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many stupid peeps with room temperature IQ like Argoo still continue to swallow the bait.... Grin

I don't think Argoo has such a little degree of IQ. He is a smart person. It's just that he is conducting information warfare on the pages of this forum and is trying to convince the forum that Putin is Hilter and Russia is an axis of evil which must be crushed once and for all. He is a masterful manipulator of facts and events. May be he works in CIA.
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At the same time, the Ukrainian people do not want to give up their land to the occupiers and want a lasting and just peace, in which Russia must compensate Ukraine for the damage caused to it. The war will continue until the last occupier, alive or dead, leaves Ukrainian soil.

I must dissapoint you here, Argoo.
Russia does not want to steal the land of Ukraine or take it by force. What is does want is to denazify and demilitarize the land of Ukraine because puppet masters in the US have been planning to install miliary bases all over Ukraine and encircle Russia with their missiles pointed in the direction of Russia. 
Does Russia not want to steal Ukrainian land or seize it by force? Wake up, it's already happened. Putin’s Russia included into the Russian Federation, through changes to its Constitution, not only the Ukrainian Crimean peninsula, but also the Lugansk, Donetsk, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions of Ukraine. That is, even those territories of the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions that were not occupied by Russia. At the same time, it is somehow illogical to claim that Russia does not want the territories of Ukraine, which are already officially included in its composition.

Does Russia only want denazification and demilitarization of the land of Ukraine? First, tell us what this means, because a significant part of Russians cannot even say it, much less understand what they mean. Moreover, how Russia intends to do this.

In Russia they are now doing everything possible so that for at least several generations Ukrainians consider the Russians their worst enemies, trying to destroy Ukraine as a state and Ukrainians as a nation, and to do this they seize the territory of Ukraine using scorched earth tactics, when everything in front of them first turns into complete ruins , after which these territories are occupied. Tell me, where should Ukraine direct its missiles after this, if not at Russia, where will the real threat continue to come from? To the Baltic countries, Poland, Finland, Great Britain and other European countries that are now helping Ukraine repel the Russian military threat?

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Wars are pretty much inevitable op because of the dark nature of human beings. They have decreased over time though thankfully due to various factors, but they will never completely go away.

No one can give you perfect answers to your questions since wars include plenty of variables outside of our control.

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Does Russia not want to steal Ukrainian land or seize it by force?


No it does not.
If Russia does not do it then NATO missiles would be sitting on this land and these missiles would be pointed in the direction of Russia.
Also it is already known that the US set up a number of bio laboratories in Ukraine and these laboratories have been working on biological weapons which could be used in a war with Russia.  

Wake up, it's already happened. Putin’s Russia included into the Russian Federation, through changes to its Constitution, not only the Ukrainian Crimean peninsula, but also the Lugansk, Donetsk, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions of Ukraine. That is, even those territories of the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions that were not occupied by Russia. At the same time, it is somehow illogical to claim that Russia does not want the territories of Ukraine, which are already officially included in its composition.


However despite this the land of Ukraine would be used for feeding Ukrainian people and not for personal benefit of some corporation like it is done in the West.
Do you know what happens with profts that are derived by Westen corporations that leased Ukrainian land? These profits are used by foreign corporations for their own personal benefit. The people of Ukraine do not derive any income from this.

Does Russia only want denazification and demilitarization of the land of Ukraine?


Yes it does.

First, tell us what this means, because a significant part of Russians cannot even say it, much less understand what they mean. Moreover, how Russia intends to do this.


I think that I understand the meaning of this.
First the territory must be cleansed of Bandera fighters and then it must be guaranteed that no NATO missiles and military bases would be installed there.    

In Russia they are now doing everything possible so that for at least several generations Ukrainians consider the Russians their worst enemies, trying to destroy Ukraine as a state and Ukrainians as a nation, and to do this they seize the territory of Ukraine using scorched earth tactics, when everything in front of them first turns into complete ruins , after which these territories are occupied.


Unfortunately Ukrainian people have been bombarded by anti Russian propaganda for the last 30 years and the spread of this anti Russian propaganda has been paid for by the US. It will take some time before people in Ukraine come to their senses and understand what really happened to them.

There's one more thing.
Usually when a territory is freed by the army of Russia quite many local people have a bad attitude toward Russians. In this case they are just left alone.
But when some territory is recaptured by Ukrainian army then all those people that showed sympathy toward Russia are usually raped, tortured and murdered.
That's the difference between Bandera followers and the Russian army.
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Tell me, where should Ukraine direct its missiles after this, if not at Russia, where will the real threat continue to come from? To the Baltic countries, Poland, Finland, Great Britain and other European countries that are now helping Ukraine repel the Russian military threat?


I believe that Ukraine should be demilitarized and it should not have any missiles on its terrirory.
At the same time please don't forget that in the times of USSR Ukrainians lived side by side with Russians and there were no problems between them.
The problem arose only after CIA started its operations in Ukraine.    
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By the way Stalin once said about the meaning of American democracy. He said that originally he thought that democracy was the power of people but then Roosevelt explained to him that democracy was the power of American people. 
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I can even make you happy. On the sixth day of continuous attacks, Russian occupiers in the Kharkov region have already captured 190 square kilometers of Ukrainian land and a dozen villages. The occupiers are making the most of the temporary difficulty with weapons from the Ukrainian Armed Forces, but they are already arriving at the front. Soon Russian soldiers will feel this and will not be happy that they came to visit uninvited. But this Russian offensive has already slowed down. When the Russians captured a significant part of the Kharkov region in 2022, they also said that they had come forever. But then they ran away in such a way that they abandoned a lot of serviceable armored vehicles in order to run away faster than they could go. It will be so this time too.
This time is completely different. Firstly, Ukraine has already lost this war. It's pretty much clear for any sane person. You have no army left as simple as that. Everyone who wanted to fight Russians is already dead or crippled. To turn the tide you need to recruit at least 400-500.000 troops ASAP which would finish off the already badly battered economy of Ukraine. There are reports coming from the frontline that Ukrainian troops are surrendering en masse. Units located to the north of Kharkiv and mostly territorial defence units, poorly trained and equipped, mostly with low morale. The average age of AFU troops has reached 50+ years. Taking into account all of the above, I can claim that even all the weapons in the world won't help AFU.  Grin  

Ukraine has already stated several times that it will not conduct any negotiations with Putin, because he never respects them. On the other hand, Ukraine does not trade either its lands or its people. It is also possible that this time, having received Donbass and Crimea, Putin would have calmed down, because several times he was on the verge of failure and even crossed himself, which ended relatively well for him. But it’s unlikely that now he’s praying to God and not the devil. At the same time, the Ukrainian people do not want to give up their land to the occupiers and want a lasting and just peace, in which Russia must compensate Ukraine for the damage caused to it. The war will continue until the last occupier, alive or dead, leaves Ukrainian soil.
Or till the last Ukrainian? I'm just wondering for how long are you going to deny the obvious? Ukraine has no choice, sign a peace treaty now and hope for the best or cease to exist as an independent state.
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- do you have any survival tips during war period?

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Does Russia not want to steal Ukrainian land or seize it by force?


No it does not.
If Russia does not do it then NATO missiles would be sitting on this land and these missiles would be pointed in the direction of Russia.
Also it is already known that the US set up a number of bio laboratories in Ukraine and these laboratories have been working on biological weapons which could be used in a war with Russia.  

Wake up, it's already happened. Putin’s Russia included into the Russian Federation, through changes to its Constitution, not only the Ukrainian Crimean peninsula, but also the Lugansk, Donetsk, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions of Ukraine. That is, even those territories of the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions that were not occupied by Russia. At the same time, it is somehow illogical to claim that Russia does not want the territories of Ukraine, which are already officially included in its composition.


However despite this the land of Ukraine would be used for feeding Ukrainian people and not for personal benefit of some corporation like it is done in the West.
Do you know what happens with profts that are derived by Westen corporations that leased Ukrainian land? These profits are used by foreign corporations for their own personal benefit. The people of Ukraine do not derive any income from this.

I read everything you wrote and I can’t understand whether the majority in Russia holds such views? This is some kind of perversion.
You say that Russia does not want to seize the territory of Ukraine, but at the same time it does this by officially incorporating five regions of Ukraine into the Russian Federation so that there are no NATO missiles left on the territory of Ukraine aimed at Russia, and also so that there are no biological laboratories , the invented substances of which can be used against Russia.

From this we can conclude that Russia wants to capture absolutely the entire territory of Ukraine, and not just those areas that are already included in the Russian Federation but are not yet occupied. After all, in Russia there will be no guarantees that missiles on the remaining territory of Ukraine will not be aimed at Russia.

In addition, now almost every state has its own long-range missiles, a significant part of which was and remains aimed at Russia. We are not even talking about nuclear missiles, because Ukraine, of its own free will, previously transferred its nuclear missiles to Russia. This is especially true for NATO countries. Will Russia attack them too? Just imagine how many different laboratories are located in each state in which drugs are produced that, purely theoretically, can be used against Russia. Does Russia really intend to fight with all of them and seize their territories?

You also indicate that the seized lands will be used to feed the Ukrainian people, and not corporations in the West, which currently do not pay taxes to Ukrainians for renting land in Ukraine.. Again, you are disingenuous. Firstly, if Russia captures Ukraine, or at least part of it, there will no longer be any Ukrainians there. Already now, in the occupied territories of Ukraine, the Russians are carrying out forced passportization. Those who do not want to obtain Russian citizenship will not be provided with any medical, utility or other services, and recently it was even announced that such persons will be subject to eviction deep into Russian territory. This is pure genocide of the Ukrainian people.
Secondly, what does Russia even care about who pays taxes in Ukraine and how? Don't you think that these are purely internal affairs of each sovereign state?

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Your predictions that Ukraine would not receive about $60 billion in military aid from the United States did not come true.
Technically all the money they assign to this so called "military aid" is being injected into the US economy, namely the weapon factories in contracts with the American arms dealers to fill the depleting US stockpiles. That means the aid that reaches Ukraine is not necessarily $60 billion.
Also keep in mind that even before this law was passed, US was sending Ukraine "military aid" and it was already in the billions (something you guys denied and call it a lie when I said it a while back!).

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Now Russia is also attacking Ukraine in the Kharkov region near the city of Vovchansk. Whether they want to capture Kharkov, or get within artillery range of it, or whether this is just a diversionary strike to force Ukraine to weaken its defense of the Donetsk direction, time will tell.
This was well expected from the the moment a series of attacks were launched from Ukrainian territory into Belgorod, Russia. The goal is also obvious. It is to create a safe zone into Ukrainian soil so that the attacks on civilians in Belgorod stops.
The rest (like pulling Ukrainian troops from other fronts) are secondary goals.

In addition, now almost every state has its own long-range missiles,
100 to 400 km range is not categorized as long range. It is barely short range.
Even having long range missiles alone does not solve anything. The things you should look at are:
1- What type of missiles (to know their capabilities)
2- How many of them (to know whether they can pass Russia ABMs and actually reach their targets and have an impact).
3- How many launch vehicles (after launch they will be detected and destroyed so they'll have a short life span)

These 3 are the main factors that could determine whether these "missiles" you mention have any effects whatsoever.

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I can even make you happy. On the sixth day of continuous attacks, Russian occupiers in the Kharkov region have already captured 190 square kilometers of Ukrainian land and a dozen villages. The occupiers are making the most of the temporary difficulty with weapons from the Ukrainian Armed Forces, but they are already arriving at the front. Soon Russian soldiers will feel this and will not be happy that they came to visit uninvited. But this Russian offensive has already slowed down. When the Russians captured a significant part of the Kharkov region in 2022, they also said that they had come forever. But then they ran away in such a way that they abandoned a lot of serviceable armored vehicles in order to run away faster than they could go. It will be so this time too.
This time is completely different. Firstly, Ukraine has already lost this war. It's pretty much clear for any sane person. You have no army left as simple as that. Everyone who wanted to fight Russians is already dead or crippled. To turn the tide you need to recruit at least 400-500.000 troops ASAP which would finish off the already badly battered economy of Ukraine. There are reports coming from the frontline that Ukrainian troops are surrendering en masse. Units located to the north of Kharkiv and mostly territorial defence units, poorly trained and equipped, mostly with low morale. The average age of AFU troops has reached 50+ years. Taking into account all of the above, I can claim that even all the weapons in the world won't help AFU.  Grin  

Does Ukraine have no army left? Then, probably, the Russian occupiers are now fighting with the ghosts of killed Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers. But this army is much more serious and will not leave any chances for the enemy. In addition, on May 18, a new law on mobilization comes into force in Ukraine and there will be replenishment. If the Russians were unable to significantly change the situation at the front over the last six months of their offensive, when arms assistance to Ukraine was suspended during this period and the Ukrainian Armed Forces could respond to ten shells with only one shell, and in the presence of complete Russian air superiority, now , when weapons have already begun to arrive, the occupiers will very quickly begin to feel it.

Already, Russian losses have increased to one and a half thousand soldiers per day, which is already a record in this war. During the six days of attacks in the Kharkov direction, Russian units suffered losses of up to 70 percent, so the pace of attacks dropped sharply. In about a month, the long-awaited F-16 aircraft should appear in the skies of Ukraine, then there will be at least some parity and this war will become much more interesting.

Well, if you think that Ukraine has already lost this war, name the date when the Russians will win.

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I read everything you wrote and I can’t understand whether the majority in Russia holds such views? This is some kind of perversion.


I don't know this either.

You say that Russia does not want to seize the territory of Ukraine, but at the same time it does this by officially incorporating five regions of Ukraine into the Russian Federation so that there are no NATO missiles left on the territory of Ukraine aimed at Russia, and also so that there are no biological laboratories , the invented substances of which can be used against Russia.

From this we can conclude that Russia wants to capture absolutely the entire territory of Ukraine, and not just those areas that are already included in the Russian Federation but are not yet occupied. After all, in Russia there will be no guarantees that missiles on the remaining territory of Ukraine will not be aimed at Russia.

In addition, now almost every state has its own long-range missiles, a significant part of which was and remains aimed at Russia. We are not even talking about nuclear missiles, because Ukraine, of its own free will, previously transferred its nuclear missiles to Russia. This is especially true for NATO countries. Will Russia attack them too? Just imagine how many different laboratories are located in each state in which drugs are produced that, purely theoretically, can be used against Russia. Does Russia really intend to fight with all of them and seize their territories?


Why on earth would Russia attack other European countries? What you can't still understand is the fact that Ukraine has always been a terrirory of Russia, Russians have been living with Ukrainians side by side for centuries. We have one common language. My father was a Ukrainian and there are millions of former Ukrainians living in Russia.
As soon as USSR disintegrated CIA started it's operations and activities in Ukraine and millions of Ukrainians were duped by anti Russian propaganda with an assistance from treacherous elite in Ukraine.
Russia is taking Ukrainian territories in order to stop the spread of fascism that was created in Ukraine by CIA and US neocons.
If the Ukrainian territory is not taken by Russia then CIA would resume it's acitivities in Ukraine and new generations of Ukrainians would be educated with hate toward Russia.
  

You also indicate that the seized lands will be used to feed the Ukrainian people, and not corporations in the West, which currently do not pay taxes to Ukrainians for renting land in Ukraine.. Again, you are disingenuous. Firstly, if Russia captures Ukraine, or at least part of it, there will no longer be any Ukrainians there.


Why not? Are you serious?

Already now, in the occupied territories of Ukraine, the Russians are carrying out forced passportization. Those who do not want to obtain Russian citizenship will not be provided with any medical, utility or other services, and recently it was even announced that such persons will be subject to eviction deep into Russian territory. This is pure genocide of the Ukrainian people.


I think that this statement of yours is false. I don't believe it.

Secondly, what does Russia even care about who pays taxes in Ukraine and how? Don't you think that these are purely internal affairs of each sovereign state?


It appears that you did not understand what exactly I meant when I made a statement that Ukrainian black soil land was leased by foreign corporations at artificially low price.
I mean that foreign corporations are planning to derive profit from the leased black soil land and they are using these surplus funds not to give benefits to the people of Ukraine but to enrich themselves and obtain very cheap financing for selling the weapons that they send to Ukraine.
It turns out that Ukrainian people are swindled from two sides so to speak by this:
1. By forced mobilzation to the army of Ukraine to supposedly defend their motherland from an enemy (which in fact is not their enemy but their liberator)
2. By the fact that the black soil land is exploited by foreign corporations without any benefits received by the people of Ukraine. .  
 
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In addition, on May 18, a new law on mobilization comes into force in Ukraine and there will be replenishment.


I see. You know, I believe that Zelensky regime could be called an occupation regime because this new law would again force Ukrainians to die in the war whereas in fact they do not want to die.
Since Ukrainians do not want to be enlisted in the army then I believe true democracy in Ukraine can be achieved only if the Zelensky regime does not force them to be enlisted and die in the war.

I have a following suggestion: why not Zelensky and his deputies get enlisted in the army of Ukraine and why don't they fight with Russians themselves? Why are they calling on poor Ukrainians to do it? Because there is no democracy in Ukraine. Ukraine is a police state that forces ordinary peope to die in the war.

Thus the real occupiers of Ukraine are Bandera regime and Mr. Zelensky.
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Does Ukraine have no army left? Then, probably, the Russian occupiers are now fighting with the ghosts of killed Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers.
You know, you're almost right: not exactly ghosts but very close. Alcoholics, drug addicts, people with health issues, elderly people and so on...

But this army is much more serious and will not leave any chances for the enemy. In addition, on May 18, a new law on mobilization comes into force in Ukraine and there will be replenishment.
There will be very limited effect as most men aged 25-27 have already fled the country. Perhaps you can also remind me why this additional mobilization was necessary? What happened to the existing glorious warriors of light? You have only lost around 30k troops according to your president?  Grin

If the Russians were unable to significantly change the situation at the front over the last six months of their offensive, when arms assistance to Ukraine was suspended during this period and the Ukrainian Armed Forces could respond to ten shells with only one shell, and in the presence of complete Russian air superiority, now , when weapons have already begun to arrive, the occupiers will very quickly begin to feel it.
Actually they did: not so much territory-wise (although the gains are quite significant too) but successfully employing the "meat grinder" tactic (destroying enemy troops, reinforcements, vehicles and other equipment without advancing forward like at Bakhmut, Avdiivka etc... )  

Already, Russian losses have increased to one and a half thousand soldiers per day, which is already a record in this war. During the six days of attacks in the Kharkov direction, Russian units suffered losses of up to 70 percent, so the pace of attacks dropped sharply.
You made a mistake by exaggerating total Russian losses. I was impatiently expecting this moment when the total amount will get so ridiculous and unreal that you will stop mentioning them, mentioning only daily losses.

In about a month, the long-awaited F-16 aircraft should appear in the skies of Ukraine, then there will be at least some parity and this war will become much more interesting.
Muahahaha! Let me remind you:
Bayraktar will let us win the war
Javelin will let us win the war
Himars will let us win the war
Leopard will let us win the war
Abrams will let us win the war
Patriot will let us win the war
ATACMS will let us win the war
Where are all these weapons now?

Well, if you think that Ukraine has already lost this war, name the date when the Russians will win.
The date? Sorry, I can't do that, I can't see the future... but I give 90% that the war will end this year and 10% it will end next year. You can save this post for later reference.
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Why on earth would Russia attack other European countries? What you can't still understand is the fact that Ukraine has always been a terrirory of Russia, Russians have been living with Ukrainians side by side for centuries. We have one common language. My father was a Ukrainian and there are millions of former Ukrainians living in Russia.
As soon as USSR disintegrated CIA started it's operations and activities in Ukraine and millions of Ukrainians were duped by anti Russian propaganda with an assistance from treacherous elite in Ukraine.
Russia is taking Ukrainian territories in order to stop the spread of fascism that was created in Ukraine by CIA and US neocons.
If the Ukrainian territory is not taken by Russia then CIA would resume it's acitivities in Ukraine and new generations of Ukrainians would be educated with hate toward Russia.
  
Russia can come up with any explanations it wants to justify its aggression against Ukraine and such explanations, by the way, are constantly changing. But the fact remains: Ukrainians and Russians lived relatively normally together until Putin’s Russia began first a hybrid and then an open war against the Ukrainians. But even after eight years of hybrid war, Russians in Ukraine were treated quite normally, because they understood that ordinary Russians had succumbed to the massive influence of the Kremlin elite led by Putin. But the situation changed dramatically after the open invasion of the 200,000-strong Russian army in February 2022, when Ukrainians saw the atrocities inflicted on civilians in the occupied territories, which sometimes exceeded the fascists in brutality. Therefore, Russians in Ukraine began to be called racists, and the blame for what they had done gradually shifted entirely to the entire Russian people, who supported 70 percent of the military aggression against Ukraine.

The Russians are now seizing the territory of Ukraine and killing Ukrainians so that they do not fall under the influence of the United States, and do you consider this a good thing for the Ukrainians? No, the occupiers themselves will pour fertilizer into the black soils of Ukraine. And the result of this aggression will be the adoption of English instead of Russian as the second state language in Ukraine. This is so that in the future Russia will no longer have a far-fetched reason for invading Ukraine - the protection of the Russian-speaking population.

And you can already tell fairy tales about a single people to the Kazakhs and Uzbeks, in relation to whom the Kremlin already expresses the opinion that such peoples do not exist and that the Russian-speaking population on their territory needs to be protected. But there, using the example of Ukraine, they long ago understood what Russia is like. These are the descendants of the Mongol-Tatar horde, under whose yoke the territory of present-day Russia was for three centuries. At the same time, the Kremlin also realized that the people rally around the corrupt elite when there is an image of an external enemy from which they need to defend themselves by preemptively attacking it. The period of constant wars is the best period for the Kremlin to keep its own people in obedience.

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Well it appears that I have to continue with straigtening your brains on this issue.
Let's start our lesson:
  
Russia can come up with any explanations it wants to justify its aggression against Ukraine and such explanations, by the way, are constantly changing. But the fact remains: Ukrainians and Russians lived relatively normally together until Putin’s Russia began first a hybrid and then an open war against the Ukrainians. But even after eight years of hybrid war,


No. You made a factual mistake. The relations were good until CIA started anti Russian propaganda in Ukraine blaming Moscow for all troubles of Ukraine. Ukrainian people became crazy when they started openly dancing in the streets and shouting  that those that do not dance with us are our enemies.
I myself heard with my own ears a type of a song or slogan shouted by crazy and duped Ukrainians: Those who  do not jump with us are Muscovites that must be hanged. It started more than 10 years ago, in 2013 long time before the war started.
 
 

Russians in Ukraine were treated quite normally, because they understood that ordinary Russians had succumbed to the massive influence of the Kremlin elite led by Putin. But the situation changed dramatically after the open invasion of the 200,000-strong Russian army in February 2022, when Ukrainians saw the atrocities inflicted on civilians in the occupied territories, which sometimes exceeded the fascists in brutality.


When you use the word "atrocities" you lie. Atrocities such as raping, torturing and murdering are the things regularly done by Ukrainian army and particularly by nazi battalions but not by the Russian forces. It's a lie concocted by CIA.


Therefore, Russians in Ukraine began to be called racists, and the blame for what they had done gradually shifted entirely to the entire Russian people, who supported 70 percent of the military aggression against Ukraine.


This is quite understandable because masses of Ukraininans have succumbed to anti Russian propaganda which is still going on every single day.


The Russians are now seizing the territory of Ukraine and killing Ukrainians so that they do not fall under the influence of the United States, and do you consider this a good thing for the Ukrainians? No, the occupiers themselves will pour fertilizer into the black soils of Ukraine. And the result of this aggression will be the adoption of English instead of Russian as the second state language in Ukraine. This is so that in the future Russia will no longer have a far-fetched reason for invading Ukraine - the protection of the Russian-speaking population.


This is a war. When a war is conducted the enemy combatants are killed if they do not surrender themselves. Are you shocked by that?
Most of Ukrainian people do not want to die for Zelensky regime and the West but Ukraine has been turned into a police state and ordinary Ukrainians are forced by Zelensky regime to go to the meat grinder.
Fortunately when an opportunity  presents itself massive numbers of Ukrainian soldiers willingly surrender to the Russian forces and by the way they receive a good and welcome treatment because we are brothers and sisters.    


And you can already tell fairy tales about a single people to the Kazakhs and Uzbeks, in relation to whom the Kremlin already expresses the opinion that such peoples do not exist and that the Russian-speaking population on their territory needs to be protected. But there, using the example of Ukraine, they long ago understood what Russia is like. These are the descendants of the Mongol-Tatar horde, under whose yoke the territory of present-day Russia was for three centuries. At the same time, the Kremlin also realized that the people rally around the corrupt elite when there is an image of an external enemy from which they need to defend themselves by preemptively attacking it. The period of constant wars is the best period for the Kremlin to keep its own people in obedience.


I see that you have completely lost all your arguments. So this latest paragraph of yours does not have any meaning.
By the way are you aware that this is a fake fairy tale that supposedly there was a Mongol-Tatar horde, under whose yoke the territory of present-day Russia was for three centuries? Russian historians have already found out the truth. This fake fairy tale was invented in the West by Western historians in order to disgrace Russia.
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There is one more thing that I want to make clear to anyone here and particularly to Argoo.

I never voted for Putin and I do not believe that Putin is the best option for Russia.

But at the same time I know and this can be proved by history that the US neocons want to destroy Russia and exploit Russia economically like they exploited Russia 30 years ago in the time of Yeltsin.

Therefore any accusations of Putin by Biden and his company have only one purpose: to destroy Russia, to convert Russia into one of the US sattelites and then start a war between Russia and China whereby the war would be conducted up to the last Russian soldier just like now the US is conducting a proxy war with Russia up to the last Ukrainian.

I don't want to be manipulated by US neocons. Russian people do not want to be manipulated by the US neocons because we know tha fate that awaits us if believe in the US. This is the fate to be murdered in cold blood and to become an eternal slave.

The West has been trying to bring about regime change in Russia and bring  Navalny to power. I have no pity for Navalny because I know that he was just a puppet of the CIA. If Navalny came to power in Russia the fate of Russia would have been very bad indeed.

I am not saying that Putin is the best man in the world to rule Russia but if Putin is dethroned now then Russia would be destroyed by the West and it would again be converted into a colony of the West. Everybody here knows it.

The US has 34 trillions of debt which would never be repaid. The US needs a victim such as Russia in order to solve its economic problems. The days of the US dominance are coming to an end. That's why the US is talking all the time about China and Russia  being enemies of the US although Russia and China are not enemies of regular American people.      
  
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War has a significant impact on the economic development of society because war brings major losses in terms of infrastructure, human resources and economic stability. Not everyone is able to survive in war conditions, especially those who are poor who do not have other alternatives, so inevitably poor people will become victims in war situations.

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By the way, I have just read a fresh article by David Stockman.
This gentleman worked as an economic advisor in the Reagan administration.

David Stockman on Why Washington DC is the War Capital Of The World

https://internationalman.com/articles/david-stockman-on-why-washington-dc-is-the-war-capital-of-the-world/

Here is a small extract from this excellent article:

Washington has morphed into a freak of world history—a planetary War Capital dominated by a panoptic complex of arms merchants, paladins of foreign intervention and adventure and Warfare State nomenklatura. Never before has there been assembled and concentrated under a single state authority a hegemonic force possessing such unprecedented levels of economic resources, advanced technology and military wherewithal.

Not surprisingly, the world’s War Capital is Orwellian to the core. Its endless pursuit of war is always and everywhere described as the promotion of peace. Its jackboot of global hegemony is gussied-up in the form of alliances and treaties ostensibly designed to promote a “rules-based order” and collective security for the benefit of mankind, not simply the proper goals of peace, liberty, safety and prosperity within America’s homeland.

Unfortunately, the whole intellectual foundation of the enterprise is false. The planet is not crawling with all-powerful would-be aggressors and empire-builders who must be stopped cold at their own borders, lest they devour the freedom of all their neighbors near and far.

Nor is the DNA of nations infected with incipient butchers and tyrants like Hitler and Stalin. They were one-time accidents of history and fully distinguishable from the standard run of everyday tinpots which actually do arise periodically. But the latter mainly disturb the equipoise of their immediate neighborhoods, not the peace of the planet.

So America’s homeland security does not depend upon a far-flung array of alliances, treaties, military bases and foreign influence operations. In today’s world there are no Hitler’s, actual or latent, to stop. The whole framework of Pax Americana and the Washington based promotion and enforcement of a “rules-based” international order is an epochal blunder.


Argoo is reminding us here all the time that Putin is a new Hitler but David Stockman does not subscribe to that point of view and he provides very solid arguments against this point of view.

What would you say in your defence, Argoo? Come on, man, make your voice heard..

Or shouldn't I use the word "man" according to the new US laws? Has this word been prohibited over there? Is it not politically correct? Then, perhaps, Argoo, could you perhaps disclose who you are and what sex are you? Are you not binary? 
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By the way are you aware that this is a fake fairy tale that supposedly there was a Mongol-Tatar horde, under whose yoke the territory of present-day Russia was for three centuries? Russian historians have already found out the truth. This fake fairy tale was invented in the West by Western historians in order to disgrace Russia.

Have Russian historians and propagandists already begun to refute this? Although during the existence of the USSR they also boasted of their power and their great history, they did not dare to refute the existence of three centuries of dependence on the Mongol-Tatars and the constant payment of tribute to them as a conquered state. But in today's Russia they often try to refute the most obvious, and if this does not work, they simply say that it did not happen.

Since you do not provide any evidence for your statement, I tried to find what arguments for the lack of dependence on the Mongol-Tatars are given in Russia itself. Here's what they write in "RG" (Russian newspaper):
“It is widely believed that the Mongol rulers imposed tribute on the entire Russian people in the conquered lands: collectors regularly traveled around the lands, and the princes personally came to the conquerors to, among other things, confirm their consent to pay tribute. However, not everyone paid tribute, and it went not always to the highest Mongol leadership. The clergy, which the Great Khan tried with all his might to subordinate to the interests of strengthening his power, was exempt from tribute. Part of the rest of the tribute went past the Mongol treasury: it was collected by “besermen” - Muslim merchants who bought the right to collect “Horde burdens.” "at the great khan."

That is, it is recognized that there was covetousness, tribute was paid, but not everyone and not always directly into the Mongolian treasury. A strong excuse.
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https://rg.ru/2013/11/11/igo-site.html

But at the end of this article it is indicated that even Peter the Great recognized such dependence before his reign, which was indicated in the Treaty of Constantinople of 1700, namely:
"Standing on the Ugra" marked the overthrow of the yoke, but was it the end of dependence? Just as the Golden Horde was a fragment of the vast Mongol empire, several khanates became fragments of the Golden Horde. For example, one of the heirs of this state was the Crimean Khanate, which for another two centuries remained the subject of headaches for Russian princes. Only under Peter I this was put to an end, when the following lines appeared in the Treaty of Constantinople of 1700: “And since the Moscow State is an autocratic and free State, it is a dacha, which to this day has been given to the Crimean Khans and Crimean Tatars, either in the past or now, henceforth there will be no need to give from His sacred Tsar's Majesty of Moscow."

In today's Russia they can even refute the text of the Treaty of Constantinople of 1700?

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You know what my reply would be on this matter?

The history of Russia was invented by a number of German scholars who came to Russia in the 18th century and they were instructed by the tzar to re-write the history of Russia.

It turns out that these German scholars were enemies of Russia and their main task was to prove that Russia did not have any great history and that any Russian had nothing to be proud of historywise. This was a sort of an informarion war that was started in the 18th century by the German scholars.  

Unfortunately many historians in the USSR also came under influence of the works of these faked German historians.

By the way do you know that one of the tzars of Russia issued an edict whereby all monasteries in Russia were ordered to bring all their old manuscripts to the Tzar headquarters where all of them were burned?

It proves that the Tsars of Russia did not want the people of Russia to learn about the true history of Russia, then scholars  from Germany were invited to rewrite the history of Russia and these bastards invented a myth according to which there was a Tatar-Mongol yoke which supposedly ruled Russia.

By the way the name Tatar proves that this was a fake myth invented by German bastards.

The thing is that Tatar is one of the many nationalities of Russia. How could it be that Tatar Mongol army oppressed Russia when we know that Tatars are one of the nationalities of Russia?

The real truth is that long time ago there was a country called the Great Tartaria and this huge country ruled all the Western Europe. This is the real truth.

These scholars from Germany did not want the people of Russia to remember their real history. That's why they invented this myth about Tatar Mongol yoke.    
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But at the same time I know and this can be proved by history that the US neocons want to destroy Russia and exploit Russia economically like they exploited Russia 30 years ago in the time of Yeltsin.

Therefore any accusations of Putin by Biden and his company have only one purpose: to destroy Russia, to convert Russia into one of the US sattelites and then start a war between Russia and China whereby the war would be conducted up to the last Russian soldier just like now the US is conducting a proxy war with Russia up to the last Ukrainian.
  
Tell us more specifically how the United States wants to destroy Russia, as well as subjugate it economically? This is complete nonsense of the Kremlin propagandists, who constantly create the image of an external enemy in order to mobilize the population of their country to fight this external enemy and, thus, divert their attention from the ever-increasing internal problems. But using this pretext, Russia attacked Georgia in 2008 and, as a result, now controls its region - South Ossetia, where it creates its military bases and builds seaports for military needs. Also, until now, after the collapse of the USSR, Russia refuses to withdraw its troops from Moldova and created the Transnistrian Moldavian Republic under its control, which also creates military tension in this region.

Well, the desire to seize Ukraine by military means for ten years now is generally the limit of arrogance and impunity of today’s Russia. And after this, is it any wonder why the United States and Europe have such a negative attitude towards Russia? Behave in a civilized manner, do not attack your neighbors, and not only your neighbors, and you will have a normal attitude towards Russia. However, it seems that Putin is leading Russia to an inevitable disaster, since he cannot stop in his aggression and there is no longer an acceptable way out of this situation created by Russia itself.

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Tell us more specifically how the United States wants to destroy Russia, as well as subjugate it economically? This is complete nonsense of the Kremlin propagandists, who constantly create the image of an external enemy in order to mobilize the population of their country to fight this external enemy and, thus, divert their attention from the ever-increasing internal problems.


The best example in reply to your question would be Russia in the 90-ies under alcoholic president Yeltsin.
At that time the US and European companies exploited Russia by buying there raw materials at very cheap prices and then selling consumer goods to Russia with high added value.
One does not have to be an economist to understand that a country that only sells raw materials is an economic colony exploited by Western countries.
 

But using this pretext, Russia attacked Georgia in 2008 and, as a result, now controls its region - South Ossetia, where it creates its military bases and builds seaports for military needs. Also, until now, after the collapse of the USSR, Russia refuses to withdraw its troops from Moldova and created the Transnistrian Moldavian Republic under its control, which also creates military tension in this region.


Moldova and Georgia as well as South Ossetia are all territories of the former USSR.
The US has no right to accuse Russia because NATO broke its promise that was given to former USSR president Michail Gorbachov that NATO would not move to the east any single inch.
As you know since that time NATO was joined by almost all East European countries.
Therefore the NATO broke its promise. Why should Russia withdraw military bases from South Ossetia when the NATO is rapidly expanding its worldwide network of military bases?
 
 
Well, the desire to seize Ukraine by military means for ten years now is generally the limit of arrogance and impunity of today’s Russia. And after this, is it any wonder why the United States and Europe have such a negative attitude towards Russia? Behave in a civilized manner, do not attack your neighbors, and not only your neighbors, and you will have a normal attitude towards Russia. However, it seems that Putin is leading Russia to an inevitable disaster, since he cannot stop in his aggression and there is no longer an acceptable way out of this situation created by Russia itself.


Well the desire of NATO to install military bases in Ukraine as well as in the East Asia is generally the limit of arrogance and impunity of today's NATO. And after the coup in Kiev orchestrated by CIA in 2014 is it any wonder why Russia has such a negative attitude towards NATO?

Behave in a civilized manner, do not move NATO military bases to the Eastern Europe according to the promise that was given to the USSR in 1990 by the Reagan administration and you will have a normal attitude towards Ukraine and the West. However, it seems that US neocons in the Biden administration are leading the US and NATO to an inevitable disaster, since NATO cannot stop in its aggression to the east and there is no longer an acceptable way out of this situation created by CIA and US neocons themselves.

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