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November 07, 2023, 03:03:53 AM
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Well, we know what Elon Musk thinks about the future, he is known to such an impossible imagination. Of course, AI is somewhat placing some key roles in improvements but in the case of replacing humans, that is really impossible. Human Beings will still dominate, not these robots.
I guess, there is too much from the interviews and biased answers from EM, and I don't if there is someone who is able to support and believe him otherwise, he makes himself like a puppet. Maybe the government will also have their response about it or else, the people will blame them either.
I do not think that he is such a big "future thinking" person, he just knows who to hire and the people who he hires does the thinking for him. He is our generation's Steve jobs, and he is smarter because he kept a lot more shares of his companies which made him richer, Steve jobs wasn't this rich ever because he sold his shares.

On the long run, we could say that we are going to end up with a result that could be a little bad for Elon eventually, because people will realize that the products that he makes are subpar eventually, he is the one that did it first so it looks great, but with given enough time, other people will pass him and make better cars and space rockets, they just need more time for that to happen.

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November 07, 2023, 03:57:11 AM
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With the change of era everything is changing so fast that many believe that a time will come when people will be completely dependent on AI. Today's Artificial Intelligent are so advanced that they can do any job perfectly.

This can be seen in the world of education now. The impact is that our children now answer assignment questions given by their teachers at school, for example at junior high school level, they just open Open AI and the photos of the questions and answers come out.

Actually, the key is to be knowledgeable otherwise you will be left behind as you mean. Only now we want everything to be easy and don't want the hassle of becoming dependent.


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Lmao. Musk is just an attention whore who does whatever it takes to stay in the limelight which is why I wouldn't take all of his comments seriously frankly speaking. The man is a bizarre genius.

He himself knows just like everyone else that AI will only replace some specific jobs, but not all. It's hilarious watching some people get scared of such silly comments.

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November 07, 2023, 06:26:06 AM
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Lmao. Musk just an attention whore who does whatever it takes to stay in the limelight which is why I wouldn't take all of his comments seriously frankly speaking. The man is a bizarre genius.

He himself knows just like everyone else that AI will only replace some specific jobs, but not all. It's hilarious watching some people get scared of such silly comments.
Would you like to tell what are those specific jobs to the community for better understanding? We all know that AI was made for the benefit of human beings but now the times have changed the world has to more advanced and things have more changed than the time when AI was invented. Let's just generally speak in a world where richer people are fewer and poor ones are more and we all know that AI will be used for just say specific jobs and that specific jobs will be run by that poor people if AI is installed in place of them then what will they do how they can fulfill their needs. There is already inflation in the world and we don't know be in the future it will be higher. You will think that I am going aside from the topic but not it's all related to it. If AI will not fully replace humans then it will partially replace and we need to think about our future. If they now partially replaced humans then how you can guarantee that I will not fully replace the humans in future? I am not harshly speaking but just clearing my doubts that are in my mind.
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November 07, 2023, 07:25:00 AM
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The idea of any government currently known to us regulating A.I. development just doesn’t leave me feeling confidant.
Once A.I. advances enough I’d like to see it help us calculate better ways to structure government.
Until then…

“Shall we play a game?”
*I’m old it’s an 80’s movie reference ;-) 

Maybe an advanced A.I. is less Ultron /HAL 9000 and more Replicant Bob v.2 in the Bobiverse?

And like the previous "Industrial Revolutions" including the recent "Digital Revolution"; A.I. 'will' change how we work.

Speaking from experience in industries I’ve worked in (Real Estate and Auto Repair) technology helps me be more efficient and knowledgeable.
On the other hand:
a Tesla can diagnose itself and order its own parts.

Isn’t it the dream for humans not to have to toil their lives away?
Those who wish to have physical jobs can become artisans and master their crafts.

There 'used' to be more truth in forums than anywhere else.  Twitter:  @cryptobitchicks  Spock: "I am expressing multiple attitudes simultaneously. To which are you referring?"  INTJ-A
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November 07, 2023, 07:44:59 AM
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That's quite biased coming from him, as he would naturally have a positive view of his project since he owns an AI company. While we can't deny that AI can handle tasks that don't require human involvement, it's unlikely to completely replace people in the workforce. However, we need to embrace these changes and the best approach is not to complain, but to enhance our skills so we aren't left behind in terms of opportunities, because AI is capable of handling some of our tasks.

We appreciate that AI is making our work easier. However, we may not be aware that if we rely entirely on AI, it could replace our jobs. So, even though Elon's statement might be exaggerated, we should think about this chance. We need to find ways to avoid negative consequences when AI becomes more prevalent.
Of course it would be biased, it's not a fact yet so it's always going to be biased and he's also the founder of OpenAI so there's also that nail in the coffin. Regarding your opinion that AI won't replace human workers, you probably haven't seen what they do in Japan yet so I have to inform you that there are cafes there that's already way ahead of us in terms of using robots for their cafe workers, they even have a robot bartenders so there's definitely jobs that's going to be replaced by AI but there's hope in that dreadful statement by Elon Musk, AI will definitely be expensive and not a lot of businesses will be able to afford that I'm sure so it's not exactly a complete takeover but AI businesses can just bribe the governments to make sure that businesses that don't use AI for their businesses have a subtle disadvantage.

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November 07, 2023, 07:51:19 AM
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During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.

These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
People are people and robots are robots. It is true that AI is making our workplace easier and in the future due to widespread use of AI, a company that needs 100 people will be able to complete all the tasks with 50-60 people.  But AI can never run a company without employees. I think billionaire Elon Musk has hinted at that.  Ai will increase the speed of every task and tasks that used to take 1 hour for humans can be done in minutes using Ai.  So will definitely create a problem for unskilled people in future.



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Lmao. Musk just an attention whore who does whatever it takes to stay in the limelight which is why I wouldn't take all of his comments seriously frankly speaking. The man is a bizarre genius.

He himself knows just like everyone else that AI will only replace some specific jobs, but not all. It's hilarious watching some people get scared of such silly comments.
Would you like to tell what are those specific jobs to the community for better understanding? We all know that AI was made for the benefit of human beings but now the times have changed the world has to more advanced and things have more changed than the time when AI was invented. Let's just generally speak in a world where richer people are fewer and poor ones are more and we all know that AI will be used for just say specific jobs and that specific jobs will be run by that poor people if AI is installed in place of them then what will they do how they can fulfill their needs. There is already inflation in the world and we don't know be in the future it will be higher. You will think that I am going aside from the topic but not it's all related to it. If AI will not fully replace humans then it will partially replace and we need to think about our future. If they now partially replaced humans then how you can guarantee that I will not fully replace the humans in future? I am not harshly speaking but just clearing my doubts that are in my mind.


I remember many years ago when we did not have phones, social networks, and the internet were not yet popular. All communication was through letters and it took months to reach us. But since we have smartphones, social media... do you think those postmen have lost their jobs and is that a crime the world created? Are you using technological devices or are you still using handwritten letters to create jobs for postmen? AI is the same, it brings convenience and support to our lives, it is also the result of human needs.
As for the poor, they need to improve their skills and qualifications to avoid being eliminated because this world is a harsh world. They know the world is changing, why don't they change and adapt to it?

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November 07, 2023, 09:34:14 AM
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During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.

These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?

What do you think?

If there was no work to be done, then Earth would become like Wall-E. Where everyone is obese and needs a wheel-chair to move since robots are doing everything for them.

But the point is, they *can't*, because AI will never become sentient. Sentience involves giving it a mind of its own, but this requires access to infinite computational power (which the human brain seems to have). Since there is no energy source in the world that can provide that sort of thing, it is impossible.

And if AI is not sentient, it still needs programmers to train it.

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November 07, 2023, 12:28:24 PM
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I am not a fan of Elon Musk but obviously, a lot of us can say the same. AI will not only grow in the future but it also develop into something big which will become a necessity just like the internet. AI will continue to replace human workers but not the entirety of course but it could take most of the jobs in the future.

I am not worried for myself. But people should seriously start being more responsible in starting a family. Children in the future will have a harder time getting jobs without having college degrees. People in the future should stop relying on the hope of getting a job outside their country because most of these rich countries are the ones to start using AI.

In as much as I think Artificial intelligence is growing rapidly over the internet, I still think it will remain within the reach of internet. AI only has the knowledge of what is been programmed into his system, AI can't do without human as well. What I think AI is going to do for human is to help reduce efforts and time spent in doing or carrying out works that we do.

If a doctor spent 13 hours a day for research, AI will help him in doing research to reduce that time to 6 - 7 hours of time to do his research, but as I said AI cannot exist on their own, they need the help of intelligent men to built this, without them understanding the nature of human, it cannot be established or program into this machine that can help humans.

However, I'm concerned about how lazy people will become if they depend on this AI of a thing. People now use AI to write articles, do research and also assignment and this is going to a challenge because it will make student become too lazy to do things on their own. Imagine having a graduate who use AI to write an article throughout his entire time in school can't write it by himself after graduation. Who is going to impact real knowledge to the younger generations. Real Education will die with the revolution of AI.

Nearly everything will be connected to the internet in the future except probably in some very poor countries and remote places. But even without the internet, installed AI can still work on machines, they just have to be updated when needed. Humans are still needed of course but minimal. From hard labor down to office work, AI can mostly do it.

There is nothing wrong with using AI in schools. Real education will be better with AI. The energy and time saved will be used on other stuff. Students will learn more and can have more time to enjoy their lives as well. Students still need to understand their research otherwise they won't pass their oral recitations, and exams and will fail their thesis defense. In short, they won't graduate.

With AI, humans can spend more time exploring and discovering beyond imagination. We need to explore the wide universe. We need to find ways on how to heal the planet from pollution and other problems for our future generations.

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November 07, 2023, 01:05:44 PM
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However, I'm concerned about how lazy people will become if they depend on this AI of a thing. People now use AI to write articles, do research and also assignment and this is going to a challenge because it will make student become too lazy to do things on their own. Imagine having a graduate who use AI to write an article throughout his entire time in school can't write it by himself after graduation. Who is going to impact real knowledge to the younger generations. Real Education will die with the revolution of AI.
Teachers shouldn't allow students to rely entirely on AI for completing their school task. If students become too dependent on chatbot based AI for their tasks, it means the teacher failed to provide genuine knowledge and authentic work. When students use AI for their assignments, teachers should also consider using AI to disqualify students who rely on AI excessively.

Chatbot-based AI can now be detected using various tools... however, some content detection AI tools have limitations, and their accuracy might be compromised without additional reference tools.

The use of Ai in education can enhance learning efficiency, but it should be used carefully. evaluations are necessary when integrating AI into education because not everyone can effectively utilize AI, even if the intention is good.
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November 07, 2023, 02:22:52 PM
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Lmao. Musk just an attention whore who does whatever it takes to stay in the limelight which is why I wouldn't take all of his comments seriously frankly speaking. The man is a bizarre genius.

He himself knows just like everyone else that AI will only replace some specific jobs, but not all. It's hilarious watching some people get scared of such silly comments.
Would you like to tell what are those specific jobs to the community for better understanding? We all know that AI was made for the benefit of human beings but now the times have changed the world has to more advanced and things have more changed than the time when AI was invented. Let's just generally speak in a world where richer people are fewer and poor ones are more and we all know that AI will be used for just say specific jobs and that specific jobs will be run by that poor people if AI is installed in place of them then what will they do how they can fulfill their needs. There is already inflation in the world and we don't know be in the future it will be higher. You will think that I am going aside from the topic but not it's all related to it. If AI will not fully replace humans then it will partially replace and we need to think about our future. If they now partially replaced humans then how you can guarantee that I will not fully replace the humans in future? I am not harshly speaking but just clearing my doubts that are in my mind.


I remember many years ago when we did not have phones, social networks, and the internet were not yet popular. All communication was through letters and it took months to reach us. But since we have smartphones, social media... do you think those postmen have lost their jobs and is that a crime the world created? Are you using technological devices or are you still using handwritten letters to create jobs for postmen? AI is the same, it brings convenience and support to our lives, it is also the result of human needs.
As for the poor, they need to improve their skills and qualifications to avoid being eliminated because this world is a harsh world. They know the world is changing, why don't they change and adapt to it?
At that time when there was no smart phone or social media one communicated with each other through letters and then there was a postmaster to deliver the letters. Now there is no need for that communication by letter but there is still that post office and there is still a postmaster and letters come there. Again, humans are needed to operate that smartphone.  Now, instead of that postmaster, various technicians are needed.  So people are building their skills in a new way
So Ai can be used as an alternative to human work when the whole world is governed by AI.again that human will be needed to operate this Ai again. So when Ai spreads globally, humans will develop their new skills in the same way like postmaster story

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I recently stumbled upon a local article that had a list of 10 human jobs that AI robots cannot replace. The following is the translated version in outline:

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- Creative work
- Jobs that require empathy
- Jobs that require social skills
- Jobs that require complex decision making
- Jobs that require special physical skills
- Jobs that require interaction with the environment
- Jobs that require ethics
- Jobs that requires trust
- Jobs that require physical presence
- Jobs that require team work
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In fact, our predictive ability is limited, so we cannot imagine how fast AI will develop in the next few decades. Just like before the era of electricity, people couldn't imagine that they could talk to people far away without physical contact.

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These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
I have been hearing since my childhood that these man-made robots or artificial intelligence will control people in the future. Although I don't know if it will be true, there are some indications that artificial intelligence is reducing human workplaces.
Still, I don't think artificial intelligence can impact all sectors of the human workplace.  Moreover, if people use AI as their slave, such as chat GPT, starting from article writing, all the programs that used to take a long time to do are being done easily through it. We actually need to acquire the techniques through which we can make ourselves more skilled with AI. Also, I don't care much about Elon Musk's statement because I heard that he wants to implant neuro-links in humans that can be used for fight to artificial intelligence. I have a big doubt about their main goal I think the bad sides of Neurolink will outweigh the positives.

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November 07, 2023, 04:39:06 PM
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These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
I have no doubts AI will replace most of human labor, especially the field of exacts sciences, since AIs are extremely logical and rational, but they do fail on human sciences where the human touch makes all the difference. For that reason, I believe in the future human sciences will be highly appreciated, much more than exact sciences, what means there will be a 180º turn around on how the society and the market evaluates and demands each sector and each profession.

While machines do the hard work, humans are going to occupy their time with pleasant social activities which work directly with another human beings. And I don't think it's going to take a long time until we see this happening. Maybe 10-20 years it's enough.

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November 07, 2023, 09:27:01 PM
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May be he just take a few peek at some images generated by Stable Diffusion and got shocked by how close to photo realistic the rendered images are, and he start to fantasizing how many of the job would be loss, btw he begin to talk just like another billionaire guy, who are constantly criticize something that he doesn't like. So Elon is now the guy who has very strong criticism against AI.

The scary thing about AI is, it is always made to be highly disposable, it doesn't need pension, it doesn't need medicine to keep healthy, it doesn't need to sleep, it is much cheaper to just dispose of the AI bot when it begin to go bad, obviously every human workers could also goes bad and their performance would then take a nosedive. When you add all the points together, it become inevitable, wage would goes down even more, people would quit their job and become internet celebrities, wasting time on video games, become esport celebrities, and making funny videos to upload to the internet.

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November 07, 2023, 11:33:26 PM
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During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.

These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?

This might happen but not in the near future, maybe these workers who are fearing these comments are long gone before AI really take over the working force and do the job perfectly for human. But for now, and the current technology, it is an overestimation that AI will replace humans in the field of work.


The scary thing about AI is, it is always made to be highly disposable, it doesn't need pension, it doesn't need medicine to keep healthy, it doesn't need to sleep, it is much cheaper to just dispose of the AI bot when it begin to go bad, obviously every human workers could also goes bad and their performance would then take a nosedive. When you add all the points together, it become inevitable, wage would goes down even more, people would quit their job and become internet celebrities, wasting time on video games, become esport celebrities, and making funny videos to upload to the internet.

Yes! The AI is the perfect ZERO SUM to the society, it could zero sum every billionaires/govt/authority efforts to build their empires.


Ai needs maintenance and updating.  They are also susceptible to bug/hacking attacks.  One injection of malware can ruin an AI's program so AI still need to be maintained, upgrade and updated.  They may not need things human needs but they have their own shortcomings.

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November 08, 2023, 12:39:21 AM
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These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
I have no doubts AI will replace most of human labor, especially the field of exacts sciences, since AIs are extremely logical and rational, but they do fail on human sciences where the human touch makes all the difference. For that reason, I believe in the future human sciences will be highly appreciated, much more than exact sciences, what means there will be a 180º turn around on how the society and the market evaluates and demands each sector and each profession.

While machines do the hard work, humans are going to occupy their time with pleasant social activities which work directly with another human beings. And I don't think it's going to take a long time until we see this happening. Maybe 10-20 years it's enough.
considering the technology utilized by these AI, even the supposed human touch that many considers to be unique trait to human might be able to be simulated in the future.
even right now AI already can simulate human emotion knowing the ethics and what is wrong it the society. I don't believe it can't do that. I personally agree with elon, AI need regulation otherwise millions will get out of job
but we all know sometime elon action is quite opposite with his words, confronting AI meanwhile also building AI, his self driving car is the thing that gonna end many of taxi drivers job in the future but he never bring out this problem because he's the one that got such technology runs, with regulation, government could keep the technology advancing meanwhile also sparing many people.

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November 08, 2023, 01:59:47 AM
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These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
I have no doubts AI will replace most of human labor, especially the field of exacts sciences, since AIs are extremely logical and rational, but they do fail on human sciences where the human touch makes all the difference. For that reason, I believe in the future human sciences will be highly appreciated, much more than exact sciences, what means there will be a 180º turn around on how the society and the market evaluates and demands each sector and each profession.

While machines do the hard work, humans are going to occupy their time with pleasant social activities which work directly with another human beings. And I don't think it's going to take a long time until we see this happening. Maybe 10-20 years it's enough.
I agree with you that AI will transform labour, especially in the sciences. The logic is simple: AI excels in logic. The equation is simple. However, AI runs against a brick block in the human sciences. AI can't imitate human touch, nuances, or emotional intelligence. I definitely believe that human sciences will be praised in the future

The market will need a massive change, in my opinion. It's a seismic wave that will change how we value skills and vocations. This transition is expected in 10–20 years. Definitely, not just possible. Humans will be more social and human-centered. Hard, logical work? Let the machines handle it. The revolution is coming, and it will be big

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November 08, 2023, 07:49:40 AM
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Lmao. Musk just an attention whore who does whatever it takes to stay in the limelight which is why I wouldn't take all of his comments seriously frankly speaking. The man is a bizarre genius.

He himself knows just like everyone else that AI will only replace some specific jobs, but not all. It's hilarious watching some people get scared of such silly comments.
Would you like to tell what are those specific jobs to the community for better understanding? We all know that AI was made for the benefit of human beings but now the times have changed the world has to more advanced and things have more changed than the time when AI was invented. Let's just generally speak in a world where richer people are fewer and poor ones are more and we all know that AI will be used for just say specific jobs and that specific jobs will be run by that poor people if AI is installed in place of them then what will they do how they can fulfill their needs. There is already inflation in the world and we don't know be in the future it will be higher. You will think that I am going aside from the topic but not it's all related to it. If AI will not fully replace humans then it will partially replace and we need to think about our future. If they now partially replaced humans then how you can guarantee that I will not fully replace the humans in future? I am not harshly speaking but just clearing my doubts that are in my mind.


I remember many years ago when we did not have phones, social networks, and the internet were not yet popular. All communication was through letters and it took months to reach us. But since we have smartphones, social media... do you think those postmen have lost their jobs and is that a crime the world created? Are you using technological devices or are you still using handwritten letters to create jobs for postmen? AI is the same, it brings convenience and support to our lives, it is also the result of human needs.
As for the poor, they need to improve their skills and qualifications to avoid being eliminated because this world is a harsh world. They know the world is changing, why don't they change and adapt to it?
At that time when there was no smart phone or social media one communicated with each other through letters and then there was a postmaster to deliver the letters. Now there is no need for that communication by letter but there is still that post office and there is still a postmaster and letters come there. Again, humans are needed to operate that smartphone.  Now, instead of that postmaster, various technicians are needed.  So people are building their skills in a new way
So Ai can be used as an alternative to human work when the whole world is governed by AI.again that human will be needed to operate this Ai again. So when Ai spreads globally, humans will develop their new skills in the same way like postmaster story

That's what I want to say, email, smartphones, technological devices or AI...all are just the result of our human advancement. AI has become a remarkable technology, but I believe that in the years to come, even more superior products will be created. Should we continue to worry every time a new technology is created, when its sole purpose is to serve us better? We should not be too stressed or too delusional that this world will be able to function without humans and that someone will replace human rule.

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