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Since the previous thread was unceremoniously erased, I took the last good archive of it and intend to continue maintaining this list.

Some of the cards on this list like Bitwala are dead, so I will be updating those eventually.

As with the other thread, for full information about the card, go to the vendor's website and beware of scams.



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PayWithUs


  • Card Type - VISA or MASTERCARD
  • Production Cost - $30.00
  • Supported Coins - BTC, LTC, ETH, XMR, TRON, USDT (ERC20 and TRC20)
  • Supported Countries - Worldwide
  • Service fee - $0
  • Fees - 5%
  • ATM Withdraw - N/A
  • Funding Methods - Crypto deposit
  • Has Wallet Service - NO




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OWNR Wallet


  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - €30.00
  • Supported Coins - BTC, LTC, ETH, USDT (ERC20)
  • Supported Countries - Worldwide (except for restricted countries)
  • Service fee - €1.50 (monthly)
  • Fees - 3 - 5%
  • ATM Withdraw - €2.00 + 2%
  • Funding Methods - OWNR Wallet (instructions)
  • Has Wallet Service - YES



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Coinbase Card


  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - $0
  • Supported Coins - Full list
  • Supported Countries - USA, UK and EU
  • Service fee - $0
  • Fees - $0
  • ATM Withdraw - $0
  • Funding Methods - Crypto deposit
  • Has Wallet Service - YES



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Bybit Card


  • Card Type - Mastercard
  • Production Cost - €/£5.001
  • Supported Coins - BTC, ETH, XRP, USDT and USDC
  • Supported Countries - UK & eligible EEA countries (except Croatia, Iceland, Ireland, Liechtenstein and Romania)
  • Service fee - None
  • Fees - 3 - 5%
  • ATM Withdraw - Free for first €/£2001, then 2%
  • Funding Methods - Crypto deposit and One-Click-Buy
  • Has Wallet Service - YES
1 Fees are denominated in GBP for UK users, and EUR for EEA users.



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Advcash


  • Card Type - MASTERCARD
  • Production Cost - $14,99
  • Supported Coins - BTC, ETH, LTC, XRP, BCH, BNB, ZEC, TRX, USDC, USDT
  • Supported Countries - Worldwide (except for restricted countries and UK)
  • Service fee - $0 (monthly), $0 (year)
  • Fees - 1,5 - 2.99%
  • ATM Withdraw - $1,99
  • Funding Methods - Wire transfer, Debit card
  • Has Wallet Service - YES




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Wirex Card


  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - $0-$15
  • Supported Coins - Bitcoin, Dai, Ethereum, Litecoin, Nano, Ripple, Stellar, Waves, Wirex Token
  • Supported Countries - USA, Hong Kong, Singapore, Phillipenes, Taiwan, most of Europe (full list)
  • Service fee - $1.50(monthly)
  • Fees - 3%
  • ATM Withdraw - Up to 2%
  • Funding Methods - Wire transfer, Debit card, Credit card, Gift Card
  • Has Wallet Service - YES



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Cryptopay


  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - $15.00
  • Supported Coins - Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, Ripple
  • Supported Countries - Worldwide
  • Service fee - $1 (monthly)
  • Fees - 3%
  • ATM Withdraw - $3.50
  • Funding Methods - Wire transfer
  • Has Wallet Service - YES



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TRASTRA


  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - 9.00
  • Supported Coins - Bitcoin Cash ABC, Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, Ripple
  • Supported Countries - European Economic Area (EEA)
  • Service fee - 1.25 (monthly)
  • Fees - 0
  • ATM Withdraw - 2.25
  • Funding Methods - Debit card, Credit card
  • Has Wallet Service - YES



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Spectrocoin Card


  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - $7.80
  • Supported Coins - Bitcoin, Dash, Ethereum, NEM Coin
  • Supported Countries - Worldwide
  • Service fee - $1 (monthly)
  • Fees - $1.15
  • ATM Withdraw - EUR 1 + 1.00% (in the UK)
  • Funding Methods - Wire transfer, Debit card, Credit card
  • Has Wallet Service - YES



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Blockcard


  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - $10
  • Supported Coins - BAT, BCH, BTC, DAI, ETH, LTC, PAX, XPR, XLM, USDT, USDC, TUSD
  • Supported Countries - Worldwide
  • Service fee - $0 (monthly)
  • Fees - $0
  • ATM Withdraw - $3
  • Funding Methods - Cash, Wire transfer
  • Has Wallet Service - YES



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Plutus


  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - $0
  • Supported Coins - ETH and PLU
  • Supported Countries - Europe and UK.
  • Service fee - /4.50 (monthly)
  • Fees - 0.50 / 0.50
  • ATM Withdraw - $0
  • Fate - Unknown



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Monolith


  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - $0
  • Supported Coins - Dai, ERC20, Ethereum, TokenCard Coin
  • Supported Countries - Europe and UK.
  • Service fee - $0 (monthly)
  • Fees - 1%
  • ATM Withdraw - EUR 0.85
  • Funding Methods - Cash, Debit card, Credit card
  • Has Wallet Service - YES



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Crypto.com Card


  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - $0
  • Supported Coins - BTC, ETH, LTC, XRP, MCO, BAT, BNB, TUSD, ENJ
  • Supported Countries - US, Europe and Singapore.
  • Service fee[pb] - $0 (monthly)
    • Fees - $0
    • ATM Withdraw - 2%
    • Funding Methods - Wire transfer, Debit card, Credit card,
    • Has Wallet Service - YES



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Change Card


  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - EUR 10
  • Supported Coins - BCH, BTC, DASH, EOS, ETH, LTC, XPR, XLM, USDT
  • Supported Countries - Worldwide
  • Service fee - $0 (monthly)
  • Fees - 0
  • ATM Withdraw - EUR 1.10
  • Funding Methods - Wire transfer
  • Has Wallet Service - YES



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Spend Visa Card


  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - $0
  • Supported Coins - BNB, BCH, BTC, ADA, DASH, ETH, ETC, LTC, XPR, SPND, XLM, ZEC
  • Supported Countries - Worldwide
  • Fees - $0
  • ATM Withdraw - $0
  • Funding Methods - Wire transfer, Debit card, Credit card
  • Has Wallet Service - YES



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Bitpay Card


  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - $2.95
  • Supported Coins - BTC, BCH
  • Supported Countries - USA
  • Service fee - $0 (monthly)
  • Fees - $0
  • ATM Withdraw - $2
  • Funding Methods -Wire transfer, Credit card
  • Has Wallet Service - YES



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Choise.com Card


  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - €14.99
  • Supported Coins - Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, Binance Coin, USDT
  • Supported Countries - Europe
  • Service fee - €2.99 (monthly)
  • Fees - €0
  • ATM Withdraw - €3 + 1.6%
  • Funding Methods - Crypto Deposit
  • Has Wallet Service - YES



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Nexo Card


  • Card Type - MASTERCARD
  • Production Cost - $0
  • Supported Coins - 23 COINS
  • Supported Countries - Worldwide
  • Service fee - $0 (monthly)
  • Fees - $0
  • ATM Withdraw - $0
  • Funding Methods - Wire transfer
  • Has Wallet Service - YES



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Uphold


  • Card Type - MASTERCARD
  • Production Cost - $0
  • Supported Coins - BAT, BCH, BTG, BTC, DASH, LBA, ETH, LTC, RVR, XRP
  • Supported Countries - United States, soon to be deployed in Europe.
  • Service fee - $0 (monthly)
  • Fees - 1.80%
  • ATM Withdraw - 0%
  • Funding Methods - Wire transfer, Debit card, Credit card
  • Has Wallet Service - YES



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Bitnovo


  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - 20
  • Supported Coins - Bitcoin, Dash, Ethereum, Litecoin
  • Supported Countries - Worldwide
  • Service fee - 1.25 (monthly)
  • Fees - 1
  • ATM Withdraw - 1
  • Funding Methods - Wire transfer, Debit card, Credit card
  • Has Wallet Service - YES



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Uquid Card


  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - $16.99
  • Supported Coins - 87
  • Supported Countries - Worldwide (not US)
  • Service fee - $1 (monthly)
  • Fees - $0
  • ATM Withdraw - $2.5
  • Funding Methods - Wire transfer
  • Has Wallet Service - YES



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Mistertango

  • Card Type - MASTERCARD
  • Production Cost - $0
  • Supported Coins - BTC
  • Supported Countries - Europe Economic Area
  • Service fee - $0 (monthly)
  • Fees - $0
  • ATM Withdraw - $0
  • Funding Methods - Wire transfer, Debit card, Credit card
  • Has Wallet Service - YES



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Are kept for historical purposes only. Please consult the preceding post for current cards.

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Crypterium Card


  • Card Type - eftpos
  • Production Cost - $9.99 (CRPT Holders) or $14.99 (non-CRPT Holders)
  • Supported Coins - Bitcoin, Crypterium Token, Ethereum, Litecoin
  • Supported Countries - Europe
  • Service fee - $0 (monthly)
  • Fees - $0
  • ATM Withdraw - $0
  • Funding Methods - Wire transfer
  • Has Wallet Service - YES
  • Fate - Rebranded to Choise.com in 2022



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TenX


  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - $15
  • Supported Coins - Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin
  • Supported Countries - Singapore
  • Service fee - $0 (monthly)
  • Fees - $0
  • ATM Withdraw - $3.25
  • Funding Methods - Wire transfer
  • Has Wallet Service - YES
  • Fate - Shut down in 2021



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Paycent Card

  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - $49
  • Supported Coins - BTC
  • Supported Countries - Worldwide
  • Service fee - $1 per day
  • Fees - $1.50
  • ATM Withdraw - $4.50
  • Funding Methods - Wire transfer, Debit card, Credit card
  • Has Wallet Service - YES
  • Fate - Disappeared in 2023



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Jubiter Card


  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - $0
  • Supported Coins - Bitcoin, Litecoin
  • Supported Countries - 129 Countries
  • Service fee -  1.80 EUR (monthly)
  • ATM Withdraw - 1.50 EUR
  • Has Wallet Service - YES
  • Fate - Shut down in 2021



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Bitwala Card


  • Card Type - MASTERCARD
  • Production Cost - $0
  • Supported Coins - BTC, ETH, BCH, ETC, XMR, DASH, OMG, NEO, XRP, ZEC and many other
  • Supported Countries - Europe
  • Service fee - $1 (monthly)
  • Fees - 3%
  • ATM Withdraw - 0%
  • Funding Methods - Wire transfer
  • Has Wallet Service - YES
  • Fate - Bankrupted in 2022. Assets were sold to a different company



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Coinsbank Card



  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - $99.95
  • Supported Coins -
  • Supported Countries - Wordwide
  • Service fee - $0.95 (monthly)
  • Fees - 1.99%
  • ATM Withdraw - $4.95
  • Funding Methods - Wire transfer
  • Has Wallet Service - YES
  • Fate - Unknown



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2gether Card


  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - 10EUR purchase of 2GT-tokens
  • Supported Coins - Bitcoin, BCH, Stellar Lumens, ETH, Dash, LTC, EOS, Qtum, Ripple, Cardano
  • Supported Countries - Worldwide(not US)
  • Service fee - $0 (monthly)
  • Fees - $0
  • ATM Withdraw - $0
  • Funding Methods - Debit card, Credit card
  • Has Wallet Service - YES
  • Fate - Shut down and domain put up for sale



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WageCan



  • Card Type - MASTERCARD
  • Production Cost - $15.40
  • Supported Coins - BTC
  • Supported Countries - Wordwide
  • Service fee - $1 (monthly)
  • Fees - $0
  • ATM Withdraw - $2.5
  • Funding Methods - Wire transfer
  • Has Wallet Service - YES
  • Fate - Unknown



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raxcard



  • Card Type - eftpos
  • Production Cost - $50
  • Supported Coins - BTC
  • Supported Countries - Wordwide
  • Service fee - $0 (monthly)
  • Fees - $1
  • ATM Withdraw - $0.99
  • Funding Methods - Wire transfer
  • Has Wallet Service - NO
  • Fate - Unknown



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SatoshiTango



  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - $15
  • Supported Coins - Bitcoin Cash ABC, Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, Ripple
  • Supported Countries - Worldwide (not US)
  • Service fee - $1 (monthly)
  • Fees - $0
  • ATM Withdraw - $3.5
  • Has Wallet Service - NO
  • Fate - Unknown




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CoinJar Card


  • Card Type - eftpos
  • Production Cost - $29
  • Supported Coins - ZRX, BAT, BTC, ETH, XRP, USDC, LTC, ZEC  
  • Supported Countries - Worldwide
  • Service fee - $0 (monthly)
  • Fees - 1%
  • ATM Withdraw - $2
  • Funding Methods - Wire transfer, Debit card, Credit card
  • Has Wallet Service - YES
  • Fate - Unknown



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Binance Card


  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - $15
  • Supported Coins - BTC and BNB
  • Supported Countries - Europe
  • Service fee - $0 (monthly)
  • Fees - 09%
  • Has Wallet Service - YES
  • Fate - Shut down on December 2023



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Bitplastic


  • Supported Coins - BTC
  • Supported Countries - Worldwide
  • Funding Methods - Bitcoin



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Eidoo Card


  • Production Cost - 100 EDO
  • Supported Coins - Bitcoin, ERC20, Ethereum
  • Supported Countries - United Kingdom and the EEA
  • Service fee - $0 (monthly)
  • ATM Withdraw - $0
  • Funding Methods - Wire transfer
  • Has Wallet Service - YES
  • Fate - Unknown



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Coinzoom


  • Card Type - VISA
  • Supported Countries - USA
  • Fate - Unknown



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UPayCard


  • Card Type - MASTERCARD
  • Production Cost - 7.99
  • Supported Countries - Worldwide
  • Service fee - 2 /$/ (monthly)
  • Fees - 0.20 /$/
  • ATM Withdraw - 1.4 %
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  • Fate - Unknown

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 #3

Scams

Do not use any of the following services:

  • Paywithanon
  • Coinpaycard
  • To be continued...

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Changelog

Code:
2024-03-10 - Add PayWithUs
2024-02-16 - Add Choise.com Card, Delist Jubiter, Delist Tenx, Delist Paycent, Delist Crypterium
2023-12-31 - Update Wirex card
2023-11-29 - Add Plutus card, Delist Eidoo card
2023-11-24 - Delist duplicate Coinbase Card
2023-11-18 - Add Bybit Card, Add Coinbase Card, Delist 2gether

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If I deleted this topic, this does not mean that anyone can now freely copy it and pass it off as their own work. You didn’t even ask me about running my own topic with my original data instead of me,

I really liked your original thread and appreciated its contents.

The ideal scenario in this situation would have been for you to never delete the thread. I don't know why you did in the first place actually.
If your thread was never deleted/locked, nobody could have copied it as it would have been a duplicate.

You didn’t even ask me about running my own topic with my original data instead of me,
To me it doesn't make sense to have to ask for permission to create a thread about debit cards just because you did it before. It's just public information. The importance is in updating the info. Not collecting and formatting it... Likewise I had a thread about debit cards in 2015 but got bored of maintaining it. And after I abandoned it I didn't go after anyone creating similar threads.

Honestly I don't see why all the fuss here. Threads on bitcointalk don't make money anyway so no reason to get upset at someone for wanting to spread information. But if you want to restore your original thread, I would be supportive. What matters is to have information available. But if you restore your thread it would indeed be the true original and hence no duplicates could exist unless NotATether made significant and meaningful contributions to alter it.

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For the original (now deleted) topic created by Ratimov, see this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280997.0. This is a continuation of it based on his design.

Instead of that line you should have used this one: "In this article I would like to touch upon such a theme [...]".



I am not claiming your work.

You should. This way he will also understand better how it feels when his own work is stolen. Unless it was also a work stolen from another author.

If I deleted this topic, this does not mean that anyone can now freely copy it and pass it off as their own work.

Actually, it does. Besides, have you asked any author when you stole his intellectual property and introduced at as being yours?

You present this information as if you are the author

LOL! This is the most hilarious situation: BitcoinTalk's greatest plagiarist of all times complaining that someone stole his work =))) This is getting ridiculous.

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Guys let's try to keep the discussion on topic to crypto cards. There's a reason why I didn't make this thread self moderated you know  Smiley

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If I deleted this topic, this does not mean that anyone can now freely copy it and pass it off as their own work. You didn’t even ask me about running my own topic with my original data instead of me,
I really liked your original thread and appreciated its contents.
I enjoyed the list and participated in the previous topic which I was quite surprised to find the OP on it deleted..
I will not enter in this drama, I just think that creating a table with the "name of the card" | website | Card Type | Production Cost | Supported Coins | Supported Countries | Service fee | Fees | ATM Withdraw | Funding Methods | Wallet Availability... Will be more interesting and avoid what was said above about copy paste..

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I'm not here to join the argue or misunderstanding above, but i just observed the wrong info to make it fix by the OP,  looks like wrong side up.

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Supported Coins - United States, soon to be deployed in Europe.
Supported Countries - BAT, BCH, BTG, BTC, DASH, LBA, ETH, LTC, RVR, XRP

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I will not enter in this drama, I just think that creating a table with the "name of the card" | website | Card Type | Production Cost | Supported Coins | Supported Countries | Service fee | Fees | ATM Withdraw | Funding Methods | Wallet Availability... Will be more interesting and avoid what was said above about copy paste..

Maybe, but tables are do not handle long elements as well as lists. Look at the signature campaign list for example. It works because all of the text is very small. But the nature of this text is such that things like "Supported Coins" and "Supported Countries" will naturally be longer. Unless, I list only the main coins and regions and make yes/no columns for each one. But maybe that is not a bad idea.

I'm not here to join the argue or misunderstanding above, but i just observed the wrong info to make it fix by the OP,  looks like wrong side up.

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Supported Countries - BAT, BCH, BTG, BTC, DASH, LBA, ETH, LTC, RVR, XRP

Good catch, thanks.

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Don't want to get into the drama either, just suggesting using a table like below. I think it's more pleasing to the eye. Grin

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  • Fees - 3 - 5%
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  • Funding Methods - OWNR Wallet (instructions)
  • Has Wallet Service - YES


Maybe, but tables are do not handle long elements as well as lists.
Couldn't they be abbreviated with the ISO 3166-1 code[1] and also based on the coin ticker (symbol)[2]?


1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1
2. https://coinmarketcap.com/all/views/all

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November 11, 2023, 04:04:20 PM
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Don't want to get into the drama either, just suggesting using a table like below. I think it's more pleasing to the eye. Grin

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  • Fees - 3 - 5%
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Maybe, but tables are do not handle long elements as well as lists.
Couldn't they be abbreviated with the ISO 3166-1 code[1] and also based on the coin ticker (symbol)[2]?


1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1
2. https://coinmarketcap.com/all/views/all

I think that will work with the country codes - the coins are already labelled as tickers.

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I inform you that the Bitrefill card is about to be launched soon: https://www.bitrefill.com/card

Here's another card to add to the list. Wink

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You should create a unique thread instead of copying from someone else. Nevermind, the original thread has been deleted or whatever. You must make it your own style and format. Anyone can post about cards, but they should be unique and shouldn't steal information from others that they struggle to collect. Otherwise, you must quote the whole thread. I will advise you to archive this thread and collect information yourself about the latest and most active cards. I won't really welcome such a thread; otherwise,  your choice.

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You should create a unique thread instead of copying from someone else. Nevermind, the original thread has been deleted or whatever. You must make it your own style and format.
Well, yes and no... First of all it's unclear if there was good reason for Ratimov to delete his thread.
But so long as his thread remains deleted/erased, I don't think it's reasonable to say that he owns the formatting of text about a certain topic more than anyone else.

I mean yes, in a court of law this argument might stand. But hey we're right here in this forum for running the bitorrent of money, we don't value copyrights that much as real rights.
BUT! If Ratimov wants to bring back his thread, as per forum rules, his thread would be the original, at least in my opinion. He showed to have strong feelings on the matter and yet didn't show interest in maintaining his thread. But Really there's not much he can do. To me it's on him for deleting his.

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November 13, 2023, 05:23:36 AM
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You should create a unique thread instead of copying from someone else. Nevermind, the original thread has been deleted or whatever. You must make it your own style and format. Anyone can post about cards, but they should be unique and shouldn't steal information from others that they struggle to collect. Otherwise, you must quote the whole thread. I will advise you to archive this thread and collect information yourself about the latest and most active cards. I won't really welcome such a thread; otherwise,  your choice.


...Eh? Huh

Here we have the following format which is very good and much more suitable than the previous one:

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  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - €30.00
  • Supported Coins - BTC, LTC, ETH, USDT (ERC20)
  • Supported Countries - Worldwide (except for restricted countries)
  • Service fee - €1.50 (monthly)
  • Fees - 3 - 5%
  • ATM Withdraw - €2.00 + 2%
  • Funding Methods - OWNR Wallet (instructions)
  • Has Wallet Service - YES

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Last edit: November 13, 2023, 11:51:20 AM by logfiles
 #17

Is it just me or spend.com is completely down and therefore one of those defunct services? I keep getting the Origin DNS error.

I tried checking out some of their social media channels and it's equally disappointing
1. https://www.reddit.com/r/Spend ---. Just spam. No moderation activity at all
2. Twitter ---> Last activity July 2021
3. telegram ---> Username not found.

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Is it just me or spend.com is completely down and therefore one of those defunct services? I keep getting the Origin DNS error.
Website doesn't work for me neither/

I just checked some of the cards and spend.com not the only website that is not forking as for example bitplastic.com domain is up for sale and few other website are not working (or links are broken) so  NotATether will have to go though the whole lust and remove those that are not available anymore.

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Is it just me or spend.com is completely down and therefore one of those defunct services? I keep getting the Origin DNS error.
Website doesn't work for me neither/

I just checked some of the cards and spend.com not the only website that is not forking as for example bitplastic.com domain is up for sale and few other website are not working (or links are broken) so  NotATether will have to go though the whole lust and remove those that are not available anymore.

I'm going to have to move all those links into the defunct category. I'm also in the process of updating that section to the new design.

There are also quite a number of new services that need to be added as well, for example Bitrefill which was already mentioned. All that is going to be taken care of in due time.

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I'm going to have to move all those links into the defunct category.
Yeah, that would be good... or maybe just a simple list of defunct and scam service in one of the reserved posts like it was done here for easy tracking

I tested a few services that claimed to be operating worldwide according to the post, but it turns out they support a few countries. For example Nexo card is only available to citizens and residents of the European Economic Area (EEA)

I will be checking more with time.

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  • Supported Countries - Europe
  • Service fee - $0 (monthly)
  • Fees - $0
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  • Funding Methods - Wire transfer
  • Has Wallet Service - YES
I distinctly remember having this card when I was really love into altcoins. Yesss... i joined this forum because of altcoins, but now my interest has shifted to bitcoin. The card didn't play a huge role in my life, so I decided to stop using it to simplify things.

Just a heads up for updates Crypterium has rebranded to Choise., the new Crypterium  Choise website is https://choise.com/, and for card services, you can check out https://choise.com/card.
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I distinctly remember having this card when I was really love into altcoins. Yesss... i joined this forum because of altcoins, but now my interest has shifted to bitcoin. The card didn't play a huge role in my life, so I decided to stop using it to simplify things.

Just a heads up for updates Crypterium has rebranded to Choise., the new Crypterium  Choise website is https://choise.com/, and for card services, you can check out https://choise.com/card.

Do you know if it is still using the eftpos network or has it switched to Visa or Mastercard?

I see that eftpos is a big thing in Australia and New Zealand. However, I must admit that I have never seen an eftpos terminal in my life  Cheesy so I'm wondering how do people make use of these cards in places that accept one of the Big Four card networks.

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Do you know if it is still using the eftpos network or has it switched to Visa or Mastercard?

I see that eftpos is a big thing in Australia and New Zealand. However, I must admit that I have never seen an eftpos terminal in my life  Cheesy so I'm wondering how do people make use of these cards in places that accept one of the Big Four card networks.
Sorry, unfortunately, I haven't had the chance to enjoy and use the card for shopping purposes... i only deposited a small amount into the card 5 years ago.

However, I believe now it has the VISA logo on the card, indicating that it can be used for international transactions without being restricted to the Australia or NZ region.
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Where is the link to the author of the topic? Where the fuck is the element of quoting someone else’s material that you’re all telling me about here? You simply copied what I did, even my cut-out photos, and presented it as your work.
He said that he continues where you stopped, and you don't really have the right to complain after you deleted a bunch of your posts and topics without any explanation  Tongue

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Can you add more non-kyc cards, even if they are only virtual and gift cards?
I can't find any good source that is comparing all of them.  
You also need to recheck cards that you already posted, if they are working or not, and if fees are the same.

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@NotATether
Can you add more non-kyc cards, even if they are only virtual and gift cards?
I can't find any good source that is comparing all of them.  
You also need to recheck cards that you already posted, if they are working or not, and if fees are the same.

That's the plan, though I think it would be wiser to check if every card is still online first.  Smiley

I intend to create a new column for if it has a virtual or physical card, or possibly both. Also another column for if it is prepaid.

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@NotATether you added the Coinbase card to the list twice, I see they're no different (or I've missed something).
You might also want to check out this No-KYC card Smiley https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5475083.0

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Speaking of crypto debit cards. What do you think is the best card to use in Europe?

I used to occasionally use the Binance card, which will now stop working. So I think about the possibility of seeing another viable one.

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November 23, 2023, 10:27:45 AM
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Speaking of crypto debit cards. What do you think is the best card to use in Europe?

I used to occasionally use the Binance card, which will now stop working. So I think about the possibility of seeing another viable one.
You might have to skim through the list to see which one best suits you. The good thing is that a number of them are available for residents of the European Economic Area (EEA) like Nexocard, Bybit card, coinbase card etc so getting another option won't be a problem.
Maybe fees and the level of KYC verification could affect your choice.

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November 23, 2023, 01:52:27 PM
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You might have to skim through the list to see which one best suits you. The good thing is that a number of them are available for residents of the European Economic Area (EEA) like Nexocard, Bybit card, coinbase card etc so getting another option won't be a problem.
Maybe fees and the level of KYC verification could affect your choice.

That's a bit like that, fees and KYC are a point that hasn't been favorable in what I've seen on the list.

Hence, I am asking for the opinion/feedback of other users who have one of these cards.

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Speaking of crypto debit cards. What do you think is the best card to use in Europe?

I used to occasionally use the Binance card, which will now stop working. So I think about the possibility of seeing another viable one.
From what I heard from friends that actually have competitor's card, Coinbase debit seems like the most obvious choice, and after that crypto.com.

I am in the similar situation as I also used Binance card for the last few years and now I am on the lookout for a new one but I am reluctant to go through KYC once again.

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@NotATether you added the Coinbase card to the list twice, I see they're no different (or I've missed something).
You might also want to check out this No-KYC card Smiley https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5475083.0

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I'll need to fix that - the topmost card has the correct data. If there is any below that then I need to remove it.

Speaking of which - there will inevitably be more EEA cards on this list than other regions (in particular USA) because of the friendly nature of (most) European governments to crypto.

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November 23, 2023, 07:48:14 PM
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From what I heard from friends that actually have competitor's card, Coinbase debit seems like the most obvious choice, and after that crypto.com.

I am in the similar situation as I also used Binance card for the last few years and now I am on the lookout for a new one but I am reluctant to go through KYC once again.

I also think the Crypto.com card is a good option. But I have the same problem as you, I don't really feel like going through the KYC process again. Unfortunately, I think it will be difficult to avoid this. Undecided

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November 28, 2023, 06:55:53 AM
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I inform you that the Bitrefill card is about to be launched soon: https://www.bitrefill.com/card

Here's another card to add to the list. Wink

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Bitrefill Card


  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - €0
  • Supported Coins - BTC, ETH, USDT (ERC20), USDC (ERC20), BNB, BUSD
  • Supported Countries - EU
  • Service fee - €0
  • Fees - 1.99%
  • ATM Withdraw - N/A
  • Funding Methods - crypto deposit
  • Has Wallet Service - NO

It's done, but I don't think it's a good idea to list cards that have not launched yet, because something might happen and they may never launch.

Also, I'm starting to think this section needs an indicator that says whether the card is physical or virtual, don't you think? Right now there are still some weird bullet points from the legacy topic.

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Also, I'm starting to think this section needs an indicator that says whether the card is physical or virtual, don't you think? Right now there are still some weird bullet points from the legacy topic.

Physical or virtual is an essential information imo, I also think a very important information that need to be added, considering the high sensitivity to privacy that the crypto community has always had, is the one regarding KYC procedure required or not.
Thanks for reviving this topic and for the efforts you are doing to gather all the infos.

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November 28, 2023, 01:48:10 PM
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Also, I'm starting to think this section needs an indicator that says whether the card is physical or virtual, don't you think? Right now there are still some weird bullet points from the legacy topic.

Physical or virtual is an essential information imo, I also think a very important information that need to be added, considering the high sensitivity to privacy that the crypto community has always had, is the one regarding KYC procedure required or not.
Thanks for reviving this topic and for the efforts you are doing to gather all the infos.

I agree that the information about whether the card is only virtual or also physical is relevant.
But I think it's even more relevant to include an indication of whether you need KYC or not. And perhaps even create a classification for the level of KYC requested (but this may be more complicated).


Regarding not listing pre-release cards, it makes sense. We'll see how this "experiment" goes.

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Updates to the list:

- Eidoo card ==> dead
- Swipe card ==> dead  (solar card will be the successor, announced... but not released)
- Plutus card ==> is marked as dead, but is *NOT* dead and IMHO the one of the best cards if you are interested in cashback

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November 29, 2023, 07:16:58 AM
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Updates to the list:

- Eidoo card ==> dead
- Swipe card ==> dead  (solar card will be the successor, announced... but not released)
- Plutus card ==> is marked as dead, but is *NOT* dead and IMHO the one of the best cards if you are interested in cashback

THX


Updated. Though it seems that Swipe card was already in the defunct category.

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November 29, 2023, 01:43:33 PM
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Updates to the list:

- Eidoo card ==> dead
- Swipe card ==> dead  (solar card will be the successor, announced... but not released)
- Plutus card ==> is marked as dead, but is *NOT* dead and IMHO the one of the best cards if you are interested in cashback

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Updated. Though it seems that Swipe card was already in the defunct category.

In the case of the Plutus card, I checked and they currently have the crypto conversion service deactivated. In other words, it is only possible to use the card if the user loads it with fiat.

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You can still withdraw the PLU tokens to other exchanges.

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Zero Production Cost and Zero Service fee sounds very interesting, and I think that Bitrefill already have no-kyc virtual gift cards that work fine in some cases.
There is no production cost probably because this will be only virtual card, not physical that is sent to customer addresses.

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Zero Production Cost and Zero Service fee sounds very interesting, and I think that Bitrefill already have no-kyc virtual gift cards that work fine in some cases.
There is no production cost probably because this will be only virtual card, not physical that is sent to customer addresses.

There will be two versions, virtual and physical.
In the first phase, only the virtual version will be launched. And later also the physical version, which users will be able to request.

Will I be getting a physical card in the mail?
The Bitrefill Card is launching as a virtual-only card that is usable in physical stores on Android devices via Google Pay. Support for Apple Pay, as well as an optional physical card, is coming soon.

From what I have seen and analyzed, it seems to me that this should be one of the best crypto cards on the market. But, until it comes out, it will not be possible to confirm the information.

I have already requested to be on the waiting list, as soon as I have any news, I will let you know.

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December 20, 2023, 12:26:42 PM
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Speaking of crypto debit cards. What do you think is the best card to use in Europe?

I used to occasionally use the Binance card, which will now stop working. So I think about the possibility of seeing another viable one.
From what I heard from friends that actually have competitor's card, Coinbase debit seems like the most obvious choice, and after that crypto.com.

I'm in the same situation as the other user, Binance card is dead, Wirex proved unreliable and I don't know if the physical card even works anymore as I don't want to end it locked in an ATM and have banks calling me, so for a quick emergency cash in the EU and occasional online purchases (including gambling) , what options do I have that I don't wake up to see my funds gone? 
Crypto and coinbase?
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December 20, 2023, 01:46:08 PM
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I'm in the same situation as the other user, Binance card is dead, Wirex proved unreliable and I don't know if the physical card even works anymore as I don't want to end it locked in an ATM and have banks calling me, so for a quick emergency cash in the EU and occasional online purchases (including gambling) , what options do I have that I don't wake up to see my funds gone? 
Crypto and coinbase?

From this list you can try Bybit and Advcash as they both have EU cards.

Coinbase also has an EU debit card. Not to be confused with Coinbase USA debit card.

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December 20, 2023, 03:32:15 PM
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what options do I have that I don't wake up to see my funds gone? 
Crypto and coinbase?
Yep, that's pretty much it. I have irl friends that have both of those cards for years and so far they are satisfied with them.

I personally haven't decided yet what to regarding debit card, but at the moment I am leaning towards not getting any as I am relcutant to go through KYC on yet another exchange. At least not in the near future. Luckily I still have ways to easily sell bitcoin P2P so I am not in a rush to find something asap and go through KYC hassle once again.


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December 20, 2023, 04:56:03 PM
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I'm trying to find a virtual crypto debit card without KYC checks.  I don't want to submit personal information or verify identity to get a card.  Some companies advertise no KYC debit cards, but it's risky trusting unknown providers.  If anyone has experience with reliable, anonymous crypto debit cards, I would really appreciate your thoughts or suggestions.

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December 21, 2023, 03:10:16 PM
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I'm in the same situation as the other user, Binance card is dead, Wirex proved unreliable and I don't know if the physical card even works anymore as I don't want to end it locked in an ATM and have banks calling me, so for a quick emergency cash in the EU and occasional online purchases (including gambling) , what options do I have that I don't wake up to see my funds gone?  
Crypto and coinbase?
It all depends what you need to use cards for.
There is always a chance Coinbase card could end up similar like old Binance card, but I heard binance now have new partner for cards from Malta.
Virtual non-kyc cards are working fine in many cases and they are better if you want to spend lower amounts of money.
Whatever card you choose to use, you should never keep large amount of money on this account.

Much better option is to sell BTC for cash using p2p trading, Bisq, Peach Bitcoin, Robosats, etc.
Than use cash to buy anything you want, it's better for privacy than purchasing stuff with cards.

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December 22, 2023, 05:41:57 PM
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There is always a chance Coinbase card could end up similar like old Binance card, but I heard binance now have new partner for cards from Malta.
Care to share more info about Binance and new card partner, I mean is that just a rumour or a confirmed news? I am asking because I tried googling it but couldn't find anything related to that.

Even though, I am close to completely abandoning Binance even if they relaunch their debit cards.




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Care to share more info about Binance and new card partner, I mean is that just a rumour or a confirmed news? I am asking because I tried googling it but couldn't find anything related to that.
I can't find the link where I saw this news, and this was nothing official.
However, I do remember the name of mentioned card from Malta, Blackcatcard, but I can't confirm if they will work with binance or not.
I don't know how reliable or legit this card is, so dyor and consider it highly risky Wink
https://blackcatcard.com/binance-connects/

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December 23, 2023, 07:41:17 AM
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I can't find the link where I saw this news, and this was nothing official.
However, I do remember the name of mentioned card from Malta, Blackcatcard, but I can't confirm if they will work with binance or not.
I don't know how reliable or legit this card is, so dyor and consider it highly risky Wink
https://blackcatcard.com/binance-connects/

But this is not a crypto card.
It is just an online bank, which allows interaction with the Binance account. Where it is possible to transfer money from Binance to your bank account, directly in the bank's app. It may reduce some steps in the process, but it is the same as converting the cryptocurrency on Binance and then transferring it to any bank account using IBAN.

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December 23, 2023, 08:50:40 AM
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But this is not a crypto card.
It is just an online bank, which allows interaction with the Binance account. Where it is possible to transfer money from Binance to your bank account, directly in the bank's app. It may reduce some steps in the process, but it is the same as converting the cryptocurrency on Binance and then transferring it to any bank account using IBAN.
I am not sure that's the only thing that you can do as from what I understand that have both physical (only for those in EEA countries) and virtual cards as well  as seen in "Cards" section on the website. And from what I can see, they even offer cashback up to 5%, among other perks.

Looks like it might even be a legit service, but I am not willing to risk going through KYC to check it out.

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December 23, 2023, 01:15:55 PM
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But this is not a crypto card.
It is just an online bank, which allows interaction with the Binance account. Where it is possible to transfer money from Binance to your bank account, directly in the bank's app. It may reduce some steps in the process, but it is the same as converting the cryptocurrency on Binance and then transferring it to any bank account using IBAN.
I am not sure that's the only thing that you can do as from what I understand that have both physical (only for those in EEA countries) and virtual cards as well  as seen in "Cards" section on the website. And from what I can see, they even offer cashback up to 5%, among other perks.

Looks like it might even be a legit service, but I am not willing to risk going through KYC to check it out.

The service itself seems legitimate to me, but the service is Revolut style, with the advantage that you can directly send USDT from Binance to the card and then use it.

It is not like other crypto cards, where the person sends BTC and can then spend it directly, with the platform converting at the time of use.

But it's also not a card I'm going to risk right now. I continued to wait for the Bitrefill card, it seems to be the most interesting one so far, if they actually launch it on the market.

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But this is not a crypto card.
It is just an online bank, which allows interaction with the Binance account. Where it is possible to transfer money from Binance to your bank account, directly in the bank's app. It may reduce some steps in the process, but it is the same as converting the cryptocurrency on Binance and then transferring it to any bank account using IBAN.
You see they are offering blackcatcard card on their main page right?
I don't know if or how this potential partnership will work, but I think Binance will sure try to bypass EU ban without doing it officially with their branded cards.
I don't really care about this as I never had Binance card, and in most cases I prefer spending cash, only reason for me to use cards is when I am making international orders, and this can be done with virtual cards in most cases.
No cash = no privacy, so I will continue to use fiat cash payments when bitcoin is not accepted or when fees are crazy high.


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But this is not a crypto card.
It is just an online bank, which allows interaction with the Binance account. Where it is possible to transfer money from Binance to your bank account, directly in the bank's app. It may reduce some steps in the process, but it is the same as converting the cryptocurrency on Binance and then transferring it to any bank account using IBAN.
You see they are offering blackcatcard card on their main page right?
I don't know if or how this potential partnership will work, but I think Binance will sure try to bypass EU ban without doing it officially with their branded cards.
I don't really care about this as I never had Binance card, and in most cases I prefer spending cash, only reason for me to use cards is when I am making international orders, and this can be done with virtual cards in most cases.
No cash = no privacy, so I will continue to use fiat cash payments when bitcoin is not accepted or when fees are crazy high.

I read the App Store reviews for blackcatcard, and they don't look so good. Some people are accusing them of scamming them out of getting a card or balance. So it's going to stay away from this list for a while.

Care to share more info about Binance and new card partner, I mean is that just a rumour or a confirmed news? I am asking because I tried googling it but couldn't find anything related to that.

Binance frequently keeps its list of partners under its sleeves because it knows they're going to be banned by regulators sooner or later.

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I read the App Store reviews for blackcatcard, and they don't look so good. Some people are accusing them of scamming them out of getting a card or balance. So it's going to stay away from this list for a while.
I wasn't suggesting adding Blackcatcard at all, but I am sure I can find similar complains for many other cards that are available.
Speaking about that, your list needs some serious updating, for example you can add Kucoin debit card, Blockcard is redirecting to some unbanked website, Spend and Crypterium cards are dead.
I can't load TenX card website, Jubiter card is dead, and maybe few more I didn't mention here are not working anymore.
I am still looking to find a website that is doing good comparison for all available crypto debit and gift cards.

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@NotATether I'm thinking about taking this topic and recreating one in the Portuguese tab, but with some more information linked to the target audience. No problem?

It's fine. I won't symmetrick you for that Smiley

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It's fine. I won't symmetrick you for that Smiley
And I remember he was not happy at all about this ''fork'' you made  Cheesy

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Do you think there is a chance you could also move updated Card List to one of your websites also?
Maybe to bitmix separate section or subdomain.

I'm thinking about taking this topic and recreating one in the Portuguese tab, but with some more information linked to the target audience. No problem?
There is also version is Croatian local board if you need it,... not sure if it's up to date.

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It's fine. I won't symmetrick you for that Smiley
And I remember he was not happy at all about this ''fork'' you made  Cheesy

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Do you think there is a chance you could also move updated Card List to one of your websites also?
Maybe to bitmix separate section or subdomain.

I can put it on the same hosting as Bitcoin Cleanup, and that actually would not be a bad idea, as I incur no extra costs for adding another site, and also it's paid for until 2026 at least, maybe longer, even. I need to check.

However, it's low priority for me.

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@NotATether: I've seen you've listed Wirex with VISA and 1.5$ monthly service fee. From what I know they no longer have that for years; it's MasterCard with 0$ monthly fee.
Can you please verify? (They do have their costs, most of them hidden in the spread, that's another story).

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...I am reluctant to go through KYC once again.
Reluctance stems from?

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@NotATether: I've seen you've listed Wirex with VISA and 1.5$ monthly service fee. From what I know they no longer have that for years; it's MasterCard with 0$ monthly fee.
Can you please verify? (They do have their costs, most of them hidden in the spread, that's another story).

I'll check it out once I get to desktop, it is quite a PITA to do any sort of research from a mobile device.

...I am reluctant to go through KYC once again.
Reluctance stems from?

I can't speak for Rikaflip but it's generally not good to shell out your ID to every single service out there that you might use sparingly, because of identity theft potential following a data breach. They should be kept as few as possible.

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I'm thinking about taking this topic and recreating one in the Portuguese tab, but with some more information linked to the target audience. No problem?
There is also version is Croatian local board if you need it,... not sure if it's up to date.

Can you share the link? I will be able to verify some information, and narrow down my search.

My idea is not to even make a copy of this OP. It’s about taking this information and recreating it with other data, also thinking about the Portuguese tab audience.

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Care to share more info about Binance and new card partner, I mean is that just a rumour or a confirmed news? I am asking because I tried googling it but couldn't find anything related to that.

Binance frequently keeps its list of partners under its sleeves because it knows they're going to be banned by regulators sooner or later.

This Blackcat card smells of a Paymonade roundabout style.

When Binance lost its EU settlements partner they come up with this no name company that allows you to deposit to Binance by basically making a payment to paymonade instead of Binance and they credit that to your exchange account, so I wouldn't be surprised for this to be another scheme like that where the cards are for some ghost company that actually has all the data hosted over at Binance and just links accounts.

There have been numerous ICOs that have pulled this stunt back in those days, issuing company credit cards for a few to fake legitimacy, Mastercard won't be happy about it, not after they've just canceled their South America partnership with Binance.

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Reluctance stems from?
What NotATether said. Binance is the only crypto platform where I did KYC and I planned to stay like that.


Can you share the link? I will be able to verify some information, and narrow down my search.
Here is the link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285324.0. List is based on Ratimov (now deleted) thread and afaik hasn't been updated for some time.

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@NotATether: I've seen you've listed Wirex with VISA and 1.5$ monthly service fee. From what I know they no longer have that for years; it's MasterCard with 0$ monthly fee.
Can you please verify? (They do have their costs, most of them hidden in the spread, that's another story).
Bunch of other information in this list is also outdated... like I wrote before in this topic few days ago.
NotATether forked it, now he has to suffer the consequences and criticism, since previous co-author is living dead account aka zombie.  Tongue

Can you share the link? I will be able to verify some information, and narrow down my search.
Sure, here it is,last updated by FatFork in April  Tongue
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285067.0

EDIT:
I see now Rika shared the same link.

This is one of the best online links I found for crypto debit cards:
https://www.cryptowisser.com/debit-cards/

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Sure, here it is,last updated by FatFork in April  Tongue
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285067.0

EDIT:
I see now Rika shared the same link.

Thanks for sharing. When I have my topic created, I will inform you here. It might be useful for you too.  Wink

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OK, so I updated the information about Wirex card and it seems that they are still using VISA as their card issuer according to this blog post: https://wirexapp.com/blog/post/weve-signed-a-long-term-global-strategic-partnership-with-visa-0720

Fees have also changed, but the list of supported countries is mostly the same.

Annoyingly, it was very hard finding any useful information about this card on their website.

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What about https://card.onekey.so/? I can't find a single card website digital nor physical that works in Bosnia and Herzegovina.... Has anyone got any experience with onekey card? They ask for KYC
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What about https://card.onekey.so/? I can't find a single card website digital nor physical that works in Bosnia and Herzegovina.... Has anyone got any experience with onekey card? They ask for KYC
Bosnia is one of the black holes of Europe but I am almost sure some of the cards from this list works in your country, for example Advcash card, OWNR wallet card, and maybe Kucoin card.
I heard about Onekey card, but they are still in beta phase and I wouldn't trust them with my personal information.
There are few more virtual cards that work worldwide and without kyc, but they are more risky.
p2p trading with cash is also a good option.


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I'm in the same situation as the other user, Binance card is dead, Wirex proved unreliable and I don't know if the physical card even works anymore as I don't want to end it locked in an ATM and have banks calling me, so for a quick emergency cash in the EU and occasional online purchases (including gambling) , what options do I have that I don't wake up to see my funds gone? 
Crypto and coinbase?

From this list you can try Bybit and Advcash as they both have EU cards.

Coinbase also has an EU debit card. Not to be confused with Coinbase USA debit card.

Is Coinbase EU debit card a crypto card?
Because as I see on a coinbase help article here https://help.coinbase.com/en/coinbase/trading-and-funding/other/coinbase-card-faq with title Coinbase Card for the EU,
under section Funding Guidelines, it says:
Do: Link your bank account, Paypal, ApplePay, or GooglePay account to your Coinbase account to fund your spending.
Don’t: Use your vault, Apple Cash, Coinbase Wallet, Coinbase Prime, or Coinbase Commerce balance to fund your spending.

So if I understand correctly you cannot use your coinbase wallet cryptocurrency to pay with the card.
Is that correct, or I misunderstood?


Also, Crypto.com debit card says in help article here https://help.crypto.com/en/articles/5977463-crypto-com-visa-card-fees-and-limits-europe, (title: Crypto.com Visa Card Fees and Limits (Europe))
under section Fees:
Debit / Credit card top-up: 1%
ATM Withdrawal: 2% on amounts above the monthly free ATM limit [ATM surcharge fees charged by ATM provider (if any) will be counted towards the ATM withdrawal limit]
Close Account: €50
Physical Card Issuance: €4.99 (for new and replacement Midnight Blue card only)
Inactivity: €5 per month after 12 months of inactivity

So, I believe a new entry or update at the first post it should be added with info about the EU card, something like:

Production Cost - $0 / EU physical card €4.99
Supported Coins - BTC, ETH, LTC, XRP, MCO, BAT, BNB, TUSD, ENJ
Supported Countries - US, Europe and Singapore.
Service fee - $0 (monthly) / EU card €5 per month after 12 months of inactivity
Fees - $0
ATM Withdraw - 2%
EU card Close Account: €50

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@panosst I think what I'll end up doing is make a separate entry for Coinbase EU Card. And to do this for the other cards where it is applicable, it also makes sense to do so I guess, because it is very common for cards to have different rules and restrictions per region.

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So if I understand correctly you cannot use your coinbase wallet cryptocurrency to pay with the card.
Is that correct, or I misunderstood?
While I never had Coinbase card (I did use Binance card for years) it wouldn't make much sense if you can't spend crypto on your Coinbase account. I think that missunderstanding comes from the fact that Coinbase wallet (non custodial, meaning you own private keys) and Coinbase account are not the same things.

Btw, few of my friends have Coinbase debit card (they are all in EU) and are satisfied with it



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Hey would cashapp's card or crypto.coms card count?
I cant speak for crypto.com cards functionality but cashapp has ties to be able to spend bitcoin
You just sell it and it applies to your Fiat balance, Venmo has the function too.
Although cashapp's isn't technically a crypto card the banking feature for Bitcoin alone is decent.
It supports LN as well. 2% fee for exchanges. Benefits vary, if you get direct deposit the perks are actually good.
They used to have Bitcoin cashbacks too but I think they got rid of it (or disabled it on my account)

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Seems like Binance is trying again with a card, after Blackcat now Trustee Plus, don't know what they mean by Eastern Europe and Central Europe cause that's a thousands year debate where one begins and one ends and the partner website says:
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No limitations - the ideal payment card
https://www.binance.com/en/events/TRUSTEE

Anyhow, the ToS page is turnof, at least for me:

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Trustee Plus provides services through these operating entities, except for Payment card service as specified in clause 2.1.3:

Hosted wallet service and Virtual Assets services,  such as deposits, exchanges or transfers and other transactions between Virtual assets, are provided by MikePay LTD (company, registered in Republic of Seychelles, company number 238574);
Exchange services from Virtual Assets to Fiat assets and vice versa, and all other services, unless otherwise provided for in the Terms, are provided by UAB Trustee Global (a company registered in Lithuania, code 306099031);
Payment card service is provided by Quicko sp. z o.o. with its registered office in Tarnowskie Góry, ul. Sienkiewicza 49, 42-600 Tarnowskie Góry, Poland, https://www.quicko.pl/ . By using this service, You accept Quicko sp. z o.o. Terms of Use and Privacy Policy.
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Also, has anyone tested the Blackcat card yet?



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January 22, 2024, 07:21:03 PM
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Seems like Binance is trying again with a card, after Blackcat now Trustee Plus, don't know what they mean by Eastern Europe and Central Europe cause that's a thousands year debate where one begins and one ends and the partner website says:
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https://www.binance.com/en/events/TRUSTEE

It will be very similar to the old Binance card. It looks more like a loadable prepaid card, which partnered with Binance to make the transaction process faster and simpler.

I'm still waiting for the Bitrefill card, but it looks like it will take a while (if it comes at all).

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January 22, 2024, 08:49:39 PM
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Seems like Binance is trying again with a card, after Blackcat now Trustee Plus
Note that Trustee card is only virtual card, and for now there are no physical cards available (as far as I know).
They are working with binance exchange, same like another card provider bit.store, so binance is taking different approach now to avoid direct ban from regulators, just like I predicted.
Anyone can register for this cards with same terms even without having binance account.

Also, has anyone tested the Blackcat card yet?
Nope.

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February 02, 2024, 11:00:58 AM
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I'm still waiting for the Bitrefill card, but it looks like it will take a while (if it comes at all).

It's already available for those who registered for the waitlist. I received an email a few weeks ago to finish the procedure but since I'm not from Europe, I couldn't do it. I would imagine you can still get in before the official launch if you were to apply for the early access now.

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February 02, 2024, 11:56:51 PM
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I'm still waiting for the Bitrefill card, but it looks like it will take a while (if it comes at all).

It's already available for those who registered for the waitlist. I received an email a few weeks ago to finish the procedure but since I'm not from Europe, I couldn't do it. I would imagine you can still get in before the official launch if you were to apply for the early access now.

I haven't received any information yet, and I've been on the waiting list since November.
How long have you been on the waiting list?

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February 03, 2024, 07:29:22 AM
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I haven't received any information yet, and I've been on the waiting list since November.
Since when are you on the waitlist? And does bitreffil offers only virtual or physical cards too?

I am still on the lookout for my next crypto debit card after Binance Visa stopped working and having hard time deciding which one to get, if I even get any in the end.

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I am still on the lookout for my next crypto debit card after Binance Visa stopped working and having hard time deciding which one to get, if I even get any in the end.
I have heard people from our Balkan countries discussing and recommending the new Trustee Card in partnership with Binance. As was already said in this thread, it's only a virtual card that you can connect and use via Google Pay, but apparently it's working fine in Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia, and Montenegro. Looks like the fees are on the better side as well. I am not on Telegram, but I am sure someone from our local board could point you in the right direction if you asked.

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February 03, 2024, 08:15:05 AM
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I have heard people from our Balkan countries discussing and recommending the new Trustee Card in partnership with Binance. As was already said in this thread, it's only a virtual card that you can connect and use via Google Pay, but apparently it's working fine in Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia, and Montenegro. Looks like the fees are on the better side as well.
Yeah I heard about them, but to be honest I don't trust them enough to go through KYC hassle and If I decide to go through KYC again, I'll rather do it via Coinbase or crypto.com.

At the moment I am leaning more towards not doing KYC again for debit card and instead just selling my crypto directly face to face and then spending it that way, like I was doing for years prior to get Binance Visa.

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Yeah I heard about them, but to be honest I don't trust them enough to go through KYC hassle and If I decide to go through KYC again, I'll rather do it via Coinbase or crypto.com.
It's crap either way, just of a different color. The more it can be avoided, the better it is for everyone. There is an alternative solution for KYC as well, as mentioned by one of our local forum members. But this isn't the place to talk about it. Grin

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February 03, 2024, 08:52:08 AM
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I haven't received any information yet, and I've been on the waiting list since November.
Since when are you on the waitlist? And does bitreffil offers only virtual or physical cards too?

I am still on the lookout for my next crypto debit card after Binance Visa stopped working and having hard time deciding which one to get, if I even get any in the end.

As I said, I am on the waiting list for this November 2023, for the Bitrefill card. But I haven't received any notification yet.

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However I found this: https://bit.store/home

It appears that it has a partnership with Binance, and that the virtual version of the card does not require KYC.

Did anyone here already know?
What do you think of this solution?

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February 03, 2024, 01:44:55 PM
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I haven't received any information yet, and I've been on the waiting list since November.
How long have you been on the waiting list?

I can't remember the time but I know I gave them my email around the time they first announced the card. As for bit.card you mentioned, then I made a discussion about them when they first released the card, see here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5475083.0

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February 09, 2024, 03:31:21 PM
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I have been waiting for a Bitrefill card for a few months now, but personally, I find Nexo Visa the best, but it is KYC needed, which I don't like too much. Because of KCY, I am leaning more toward old-school peer-to-peer exchanging crypto for cash.

I also found this list of debit credit cards: https://cryptolinks.com/cryptocurrency-debit-card but it seems most of them are listed in this thread by NotATether.

My question is which is the best NO KYC debit card for crypto?  Smiley

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However I found this: https://bit.store/home
It appears that it has a partnership with Binance, and that the virtual version of the card does not require KYC.

First impression was that this is the next try from Binance to get a card but this time is really a limited partnership.
So basically it's just Bit.store implementing Binance pay on its platform, much like Coinbase had it's payment gateway partnerships before.

But what I'm really curious, anyone also getting redacted while trying to browse
https://bit.store/useragreement.html
https://bit.store/termprivacy.html
Firefox chrome android windows I can't open the page.

Let's see how long the no kyc miracle last before MC pulls the plug again.



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February 09, 2024, 09:03:25 PM
Merited by stompix (2)
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But what I'm really curious, anyone also getting redacted while trying to browse
https://bit.store/useragreement.html
https://bit.store/termprivacy.html
Firefox chrome android windows I can't open the page.

Let's see how long the no kyc miracle last before MC pulls the plug again.

Well, something really strange when you enter these pages. You are automatically redirected to the home page.

But there's nothing more than knowing a few tricks to understand what's happening.  Roll Eyes
When entering the page on the PC, I immediately clicked the "ESC" key and it stopped the redirection process. And analyzing the page's source code, they actually implemented a redirection command:
Code:
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0; url=https://bitstore.com">

But I managed to get in, and so the result is this:
https://bit.store/useragreement.html (copy the link, paste it into the browser and click the "ESC" key)
Code:
User Agreement
BITSTORE EUROPE UAB (hereinafter referred to as“the Company”), is a company incorporated under the laws of the Republic of Lithuania with registered address: Vilnius, Laisvės pr. 60, Lithuania, operates the BITSTORE APP. For the convenience of wording in this Agreement, the Company and the Website are referred to as “we” or other applicable forms of first person pronouns in this Agreement. All natural persons or other subjects who log onto this Website shall be users of this Website. For the convenience of wording in this Agreement, the users are referred to as “you” or any other applicable forms of the second-person pronouns.
For the convenience of wording in this Agreement, you and us are collectively referred to as “both parties”, and individually as “one party”. For the convenience of the Users, all content on this Website may be available in multiple languages. In case of any conflict between different language versions of such content or any omission in any language version, the English version of such content shall prevail.
Important reminder: We hereby remind you that:
1. The digital assets themselves are not offered by any financial institution, corporation or this Website;
2. The digital asset market is new and unconfirmed, and will not necessarily expand;
3. Digital assets are primarily used by speculators, and are used relatively less on retail and commercial markets; digital asset transactions are highly risky, due to the fact that they are traded throughout the day without limits on the rise or fall in price, and market makers and global government policies may cause major fluctuations in their prices;
4. The Company may suspend or terminate your account or use of the Service, or the processing of any digital asset transaction, at any time if it determines in its sole discretion that you have violated this Agreement or that its provision or your use of the Service in your jurisdiction is unlawful.
Digital assets trading is highly risky and therefore not suitable for the vast majority of people. You acknowledge and understand that investment in digital assets may result in partial or total loss of your investment and therefore you are advised to decide the amount of your investment on the basis of your loss-bearing capacity. You acknowledge and understand that digital assets may generate derivative risks.
Therefore, if you have any doubt, you are advised to seek assistance from a financial adviser first. Furthermore, aside from the above-mentioned risks, there may also be unpredictable risks. Therefore, you are advised to carefully consider and use clear judgment to assess your financial position and the abovementioned risks before making any decisions on buying and selling digital assets; any and all losses arising therefrom will be borne by you and we shall not be held liable in any manner whatsoever.
You are hereby informed that:
1.You understand that this Website is only intended to serve as a venue for you to obtain digital asset information, find trading counterparties, hold negotiations on and effect transactions of digital assets. This Website does not participate in any of your transactions, and therefore you shall, at your sole discretion, carefully assess the authenticity, legality and validity of relevant digital assets and/or information, and solely bear the responsibilities and losses that may arise therefrom.
2.All opinions, information, discussions, analyses, prices, advice and other information on this Website are general market reviews and do not constitute any investment advice. We do not bear any loss arising directly or indirectly from reliance on the abovementioned information, including but not limited to, any loss of profits.
3.The content of this Website may be changed from time to time and at any time without notice, and we have taken reasonable measures to ensure the accuracy of the information on the Website; however, we do not guarantee the degree of such accuracy, or bear any loss arising directly or indirectly from the information on this Website or from any delay or failure caused by failure to link up with the internet, transmit or receive any notice and information
4.Using internet-based trading systems also involves risks, including but not limited to failures in software, hardware or Internet links, etc. In view of the fact that we cannot control the reliability and availability of the Internet, we will not be responsible for any distortion, delay and link failure.
5.It is prohibited to use this Website to engage in any illegal transaction activities or illegitimate activities, such as money laundering, smuggling and commercial bribery. In the event that any suspected illegal transaction activities or illegitimate activities is uncovered, this Website will adopt all available measures, including but not limited to freezing the offender’s account, notifying relevant authorities, etc., and we will not assume any of the responsibilities arising therefrom and reserve the right to hold relevant persons accountable;
6.It is prohibited to use this Website for the purpose of malicious manipulation of the market, improper transactions or any other illicit trading activities. Where any of such illicit trading activities is uncovered, this Website will adopt such preventive and protective measures as warning, restricting trading and closing accounts against any and all such malicious manipulation of prices, maliciously influencing the trading system and any other illicit behaviors;
We do not assume any of the responsibilities arising therefrom and reserve the right to hold relevant persons accountable.
1.General Provisions
1.1 The User Agreement (hereinafter referred to as "this Agreement" or "these terms and conditions") consists of the main body, Terms of Privacy, Understanding Your client and Anti-money-laundering Policy, as well as any rules, statements, instructions, etc. that this Website has published or may publish in the future.
1.2 Before using the services offered by this Website, you shall read this Agreement carefully, and consult a professional lawyer if you have any doubt or as may be otherwise necessary. If you do not agree to the terms and conditions of this Agreement and/or any change made thereto from time to time and at any time, please immediately stop using the service provided by this Website or stop logging onto this Website. Upon your logging into this Website or using any service offered by this Website or engaging in any other similar activity, it shall be deemed as having understood and fully agreeing to all terms and conditions of this Agreement, including any and all changes, modifications or alterations that this Website may make to this Agreement from time to time and at any time.
1.3 After filling in the relevant information in accordance with the requirements of this Website, and going through other relevant procedures, you will successfully register yourself as a member of this Website (hereinafter referred to as "Member"); in the process of registration, if you click on the "I Agree", it shall be deemed that you have reached an agreement with the Company by way of electronic signature; or when you use this Website, you click on the "I Agree" button or a similar button, or if you use the services offered by this Website in any of the ways allowed by this Website, it shall be deemed that you fully understand, agree to and accept all the terms and conditions under this Agreement, and in this case, the absence of your handwritten signature will not affect the legal binding force that this Agreement may have on you
1.4 After you become a member of this Website, you will receive a member account and corresponding password, which shall be properly kept by you as a member of this Website; Members shall be liable for all activities and events carried out through their accounts.
1.5 You cannot engage in trading on the digital asset trading platform provided by this Website and gain access to the services that are exclusively available to members in accordance with the rules and regulations of this Website, unless and until you become a member of this Website; if you are not a member of this Website, you can only log in to and browse the Website and have access to other services as are permitted by the rules and regulations of this Website.
1.6 Upon registering yourself as a member of this Website and using any of the services and functions offered by this Website, it shall be deemed that you have read, understood this Agreement, and:
1.6.1 accepted to be bound by all terms and conditions of this Agreement;
1.6.2 You confirm that you have attained the age of 16, or another statutory age for entering into contracts as is required by a different applicable law, and your registration with this Website, purchase or sale via this Website, release information on this Website and other behaviors indicating your acceptance of the Services offered by this Website shall comply with the relevant laws and regulations of the sovereign state or region that has jurisdiction over you, and you confirm that you have sufficient capacity to accept these terms and conditions, enter into transactions and to use this Website for digital asset transactions.
1.6.3 You undertake that all your digital assets involved in transactions hereunder are legally acquired and owned by you.
1.6.4 You agree to undertake any and all liabilities for your own transaction and non-transaction activities as well as any and all profits and losses therefrom.
1.6.5 You confirm that the information provided at the time of registration is true and accurate.
1.6.6 You agree to comply with any and all relevant laws, including the reporting of any transaction profits for tax purposes.
1.6.7 You agree to always refrain from engaging in or participating in any act or activity that damages the interests of this Website or the Company, whether or not in connection with the Services provided by this Website.
1.6.8 This Agreement is only binding on the rights and obligations between you and us, and does not involve legal relations and legal disputes arising from and relating to the transaction of digital assets between the users of this Website, and between other websites and you.
2. Amendment of this Agreement We reserve the right to amend this Agreement from time to time, and disclose such amendment by way of announcement on the Website without sending a separate notice to you on your rights. The date when the amendment is made will be indicated on the first page of the amended agreement. The amended agreement will take effect immediately upon announcement on the Website. You shall browse this Website from time to time and follow information on the time and content of amendments, if any, made to this Agreement. If you do not agree with the amendments, you shall stop using the services offered by this Website immediately; if you continue to use the services offered by this Website, it shall be deemed that you accept and agree to be bound by the amended agreement.
3. Registration
3.1 Eligibility for Registration You confirm and promise that: you shall be a natural person, legal person or other organization with the ability to sign this Agreement and the ability to use the services of this Website, as is provided by applicable laws, when you complete the registration process or when you use the services offered by this Website in any other manner as is otherwise permitted by this Website. Upon clicking on the button indicating that you agree to register, it shall be deemed that you yourself or your authorized agent agrees to the content of this Agreement and your authorized agent will register with this Website and use the services offered by this Website on your behalf. If you are not a natural person, legal person or organization with the abovementioned ability, you and your authorized agent shall bear all the consequences of that, and the company reserves the right to cancel or permanently freeze your account and to hold you and your authorized agent accountable.
3.2 Purpose of Registration You confirm and promise that you do not register with this Website for the purpose of violating any of the applicable laws or regulations or undermining the order of digital asset transactions on this Website.
3.3 Registration Process
3.3.1 You agree to provide a valid email address, a mobile phone number and other information in accordance with the requirements on the user registration page of this Website. You can use the email address, mobile phone number or any other manner permitted by this Website to log in to this Website. Where it is necessary and in accordance with the requirements of applicable laws and regulations of relevant jurisdictions, you shall provide your real name, identity card and other information required by applicable laws, regulations, the Terms of Privacy, and anti-money-laundering terms, and constantly update your registration data so that they will be timely, detailed and accurate as is required. All of the original typed data will be referenced as registration information. You shall be responsible for the authenticity, integrity and accuracy of such information and bear any direct or indirect loss and adverse consequences arising out of it.
3.3.2 If any of the applicable laws, regulations, rules, orders and other regulatory documents of the sovereign country or region in which you are based requires that mobile phone accounts must be based on real names, you hereby confirm that the mobile phone number you provide for registration purposes has gone through the real-name registration procedure. If you cannot provide such a mobile phone number as is required, any direct or indirect losses and adverse consequences arising therefrom and affecting you shall be borne by you.
3.3.3 After you provide the required registration information in a legal, complete and valid manner and such information passes relevant verification, you shall have the right to obtain an account and a password of this Website. Upon obtaining such account and password, your registration shall be deemed as successful and you can log into this Website as a member thereof.
3.3.4 You agree to receive emails and/or short messages sent by this Website related to the management and operation thereof.
4.Services This Website only provides online transaction platform services for you to engage in digital asset trading activities through this Website (including but not limited to the digital asset transactions etc.). This Website does not participate in the transaction of digital assets as a buyer or seller; This Website does not provide any services relating to the replenishment and withdrawal of the legal currency of any country.
4.1 Content of Services
4.1.1 You have the right to browse the real-time quotes and transaction information of digital asset products on this Website, to submit digital asset transaction instructions and to complete the digital asset transaction through this Website.
4.1.2 You have the right to view information under the member accounts on this Website and to apply the functions provided by this Website.
4.1.3 You have the right to participate in the website activities organized by this Website in accordance with the rules of activities posted on this Website.
4.1.4 Other services that this Website promises to offer to you.
4.2 Service Rules You undertake to comply with the following service rules of this Website:
4.2.1 You shall comply with the provisions of applicable laws, regulations, rules, and policy requirements, and ensure the legality of the source of all digital assets in your account, and shall refrain from engaging in any illegal activities or other activities that damages the rights and interests of this Website or any third party, such as sending or receiving information that is illegal, illicit or infringes on the rights and interests of any other person, sending or receiving pyramid scheme information or information or remarks causing other harms, unauthorized use or falsification of the email header information of this Website, inter alia.
4.2.2 You shall comply with applicable laws and regulations and properly use and keep your account in this Website and login password, password of your financial transactions, and the mobile phone number bound with your account that you provide upon registration of your account, as well as the security of the verification codes received via your mobile phone. You shall be solely responsible for any and all your operations carried out using your account with this Website and login password, financial transaction password, verification codes sent to your mobile phone, as well as all consequences of such operations. When you find that your account with this Website, your login password, financial transaction password, or mobile phone verification codes is used by any unauthorized third party, uncover any other problem relating to the security of your account, you shall inform this Website in a prompt and effective manner, and request this Website to temporarily suspend the services to your account with this Website. This Website shall have the right to take action on your request within a reasonable time; nonetheless, this Website does not bear any liability for the consequences that have arisen before such action is taken, including but not limited to any loss that you may sustain. You may not assign your account with this Website to any other person by way of donation, lending, leasing, transfer or otherwise without the consent of this Website.
4.2.3 You agree to take responsibility for all activities (including but not limited to information disclosure, information release, online click-approving or submission of various agreements on rules, online renewal of agreements or purchase service) using your account and password with this Website.
4.2.4 In your digital asset transactions on this Website, you may not maliciously interfere with the normal proceeding of the digital asset transaction or disrupt the transaction order; you may not use any technical means or other means to interfere with the normal operation of this Website or interfere with the other users' use of the services; you may not maliciously defame the business goodwill of this Website on the ground of falsified fact.
4.2.5 If any dispute arises between you and any other user in connection with online transaction, you may not resort to any means other than judicial or governmental means to request this Website to provide relevant information.
4.2.6 All taxes payable as well as all fees relating to hardware, software and services that are incurred by you in the course of using the services provided by this Website shall be solely borne by you.
4.2.7 You shall abide by this Agreement and other terms of service and operating rules that this Website may release from time to time, and you have the right to terminate your use of the services provided by this Website at any time.
4.3 Product Rules
4.3.1 Rules for trading products You undertake that in the process in which you log into this Website and engage in transactions with other users through this Website, you will properly comply with the following transaction rules.
4.3.1.1 Browsing transaction information When you browse the transaction information on this Website, you should carefully read all the content in the transaction information, including but not limited to the price, consignment, handling fee, buying or selling direction, and you shall accept all the contents contained in the transaction information before you may click on the button to proceed with the transaction.
4.3.1.2 Submission of Commission After browsing and verifying the transaction information, you may submit your transaction commissions. After you submit the transaction commission, it shall be deemed that you authorize this Website to broker you for the corresponding transactions, and this Website will automatically complete the matchmaking operation when there is a transaction proposal that meets your price quotation, without prior notice to you.
4.3.1.3 Accessing transaction details You can check the corresponding transaction records in the transaction statements by the Management Center, and confirm your own detailed transaction records.
4.3.1.4 Revoking/modifying transaction commission. You have the right to revoke or modify your transaction commission at any time before the transaction is concluded. 5.Rights and Obligations of this Website
5.1 If you do not have the registration qualifications agreed on in this Agreement, this Website shall have the right to refuse to allow you to register; if you have already registered, this Website shall have the right to revoke your member account, and this Website reserves the right to hold you or your authorized agent accountable. Furthermore, this Website reserves the right to decide whether to accept your application for registration under any other circumstances.
5.2 When this Website finds at its sole discretion that you or your associated account user is not suitable for high-risk investment, this Website shall have the right to suspend or terminate the use of your account and all associated accounts thereof.
5.3 When this Website finds out that the user of an Account is not the initial registrant of that Account, it shall have the right to suspend or terminate the user's access to that Account.
5.4 Where by means of technical testing or manual sampling, among others, this Website reasonably suspects that the information you provide is wrong, untrue, invalid or incomplete, this Website shall have the right to notify you to correct or update the information, or suspend or terminate its supply of the services to you.
5.5 This Website shall have the right to correct any information displayed on this Website when it uncovers any obvious error in such information.
5.6 This Website reserves the right to modify, suspend or terminate the Services offered by this Website, at any time, and the right to modify or suspend the Service without prior notice to you; if this Website terminates one or more of the Services offered by this Website, such termination by this Website will take effect on the date of announcement of such termination on the Website.
5.7 This Website shall take necessary technical means and management measures to ensure the normal operation of this Website, and shall provide a necessary and reliable trading environment and transaction services, and shall maintain the order of digital assets trading.
5.8 If you fail to log into this Website using your member account number and password for an uninterrupted period of one year, this Website shall have the right to revoke your account. After your account is revoked, this Website shall have the right to offer the member name represented by such account to other applicants for membership.
5.9 This Website shall ensure the security of your digital assets by strengthening technical input and enhancing security precautions, and is under the obligation to notify you in advance of the foreseeable security risks in your account.
5.10 This Website shall have the right to delete all kinds of content and information which does not conform to laws and regulations or the rules of this Website at any time, and exercise of this right by this Website is not subject to a prior notice to you.
5.11 This Website shall have the right to, in accordance with the applicable laws, administrative regulations, rules, orders and other regulatory documents of the sovereign country or region where you are based, request to you for more information or data, and to take reasonable measures to meet the requirements of the local standards, and you have the obligation to provide proper assistance to such measures; this Website shall have the right to suspend or permanently terminate your access to this Website as well as part or all of the services offered by this Website.
6.Indemnity
6.1 Under any circumstance, our liability for your direct damage will not exceed the total cost incurred by your three (3) months' use of services offered by this Website.
6.2 Shall you breach this Agreement or any applicable law or administrative regulation, you shall pay to us at least US$ Two million in compensation and bear all the expenses in connection with such breach (including attorney's fees, among others). If such compensation cannot cover the actual loss, you shall make up for the difference.
7.The Right to Injunctive Relief Both you and we acknowledge that common law remedies for breach of agreement or possible breach of contract may be insufficient to cover all the losses that we sustain; therefore, in the event of a breach of contract or a possible breach of contract, the non-breaching party shall have the right to seek injunctive relief as well as all other remedies that are permitted under common law or equity.
8.Limitation and Exemption of Liability
8.1 You understand and agree that under no circumstance will we be held liable for any of the following events:
8.1.1 loss of income;
8.1.2 loss of transaction profits or contractual losses;
8.1.3 disruption of the business
8.1.4 loss of expected currency losses
8.1.5 loss of information
8.1.6 loss of opportunity, damage to goodwill or reputation
8.1.7 damage or loss of data;
8.1.8 cost of purchasing alternative products or services;
8.1.9 any indirect, special or incidental loss or damage arising from any infringement (including negligence), breach of contract or any other cause, regardless of whether or not such loss or damage may reasonably be foreseen by us, and regardless of whether or not we are notified in advance of the possibility of such loss or damage.
8.1.10 Items 8.1.1 to 8.1.9 are independent of each other.
8.2 You understand and agree that we shall not be held liable for any damages caused by any of the following events:
8.2.1 Where we are properly justified in believing that your specific transactions may involve any serious violation or breach of law or agreement;
8.2.2 Where we are reasonably justified in believing that your conduct on this Website is suspected of being illegal or immoral;
8.2.3 The expenses and losses arising from the purchase or acquisition of any data, information or transaction, etc. through the services offered by this Website;
8.2.4 Your misunderstanding of the Services offered by this Website;
8.2.5 Any other losses related to the services provided by this Website, which cannot be attributed to us.
8.3 Where we fail to provide the Services or delay in providing such Services due to information network equipment maintenance, information network connectivity failures, errors in computer, communications or other systems, power failures, weather conditions, unexpected accidents, industrial actions, labor disputes, revolts, uprisings, riots, lack of productivity or production materials, fires, floods, storms, explosions, wars, failure on the part of banks or other partners, collapse of the digital asset market, actions by government, judicial or administrative authorities, other acts that are not within our control or beyond our inability to control, or due to causes on the part of third parties, we shall not assume any responsibility for such failure to provide service or delay in providing services, or for the resultant loss you may sustain as a result of such failure or delay.
8.4 We cannot guarantee that all the information, programs, texts, etc. contained in this Website are completely safe, free from the interference and destruction by any malicious programs such as viruses, trojans, etc., therefore, your log-into this Website or use of any services offered by this Website, download of any program, information and data from this Website and your use thereof are your personal decisions and therefore you shall bear the any and all risks and losses that may possibly arise.
8.5 We do not make any warranties and commitments in connection with any of the information, products and business of any third party websites linked to this Website, as well as any other forms of content that do not belong to us; your use any of the services, information, and products provided by a third party website is your personal decision and therefore you shall assume any and all the responsibilities arising therefrom.
8.6 We do not make any explicit or implicit warranties regarding your use of the Services offered by this Website, including but not limited to the applicability, freedom from error or omission, consistency, accuracy, reliability, and applicability to a specific purpose, of the services provided by this Website. Furthermore, we do not make any commitment or guarantee in connection with the validity, accuracy, correctness, reliability, quality, stability, integrity and timeliness of the technology and information covered by the services offered by this Website. Whether to log in this Website or use the services provided by this Website is your personal decision and therefore you shall bear all the risks and possible losses arising from such decision. We do not make any explicit or implicit warranties in connection with the market, value and price of digital assets; you understand and acknowledge that the digital asset market is unstable, that the price and value of assets may fluctuate or collapse at any time, and that the transaction of digital assets is based on your personal free will and decision and therefore you shall assume any and all risks and losses that may possible arise therefrom.
8.7 The guarantees and undertakings specified in this Agreement shall be the only guarantee and statements that we make in connection with the Services provided by us under this Agreement and through this Website, and shall supersede any and all the warranties and commitments arising in any other way and manner, whether in writing or in words, express or implied. All these guarantees and statements represent only our own commitments and undertakings and do not guarantee any third party's compliance with the guarantees and commitments contained in this Agreement.
8.8 We do not waive any of the rights not mentioned in this Agreement and to the maximum extent permitted by the applicable law, to limit, exempt or offset our liability for damages.
8.9 Upon your registration of your account with this Website, it shall be deemed that you approve any and all operations performed by us in accordance with the rules set forth in this Agreement, and any and all risks arising from such operations shall be assumed by you.
9.Termination of Agreement
9.1 This Website shall have the right to terminate all Service offered by this Website to you in accordance with this Agreement, and this Agreement shall terminate on the date of termination of all services offered by this Website to you.
9.2 After the termination of this Agreement, you do not have the right to require this Website to continue to provide you with any service or perform any other obligation, including, but not limited to, requesting this Website to keep or disclose to you any information in your former original account, or to forward to you or any third party any information therein that is not read or sent.
9.3 The termination of this Agreement shall not prevent the observant party from demanding the breaching party to assume other liabilities.
10.Intellectual Property
10.1 All intellectual achievements included in this Website, including, but not limited to, website logos, databases, website design, text and graphics, software, photos, videos, music, sounds and any combinations of the aforementioned files, and the intellectual property rights of software compilation, associated source code and software (including small applications and scripts) shall be owned by this Website. You may not copy, modify, copy, transmit or use any of the foregoing materials or content for commercial purposes.
10.2 All rights contained in the name of this Website (including but not limited to business goodwill and trademarks, logos) shall be owned by the Company.
10.3 Upon accepting this Agreement, it shall be deemed that you, on the basis of your own free will, have transferred and assigned exclusively and free of charge to this Website all copyright of any form of information that you publish on this Website, including, but not limited to copyrights, distribution rights, lease rights, exhibition rights, performance rights, projection rights, broadcasting rights, information network dissemination rights, shooting rights, adaptation rights, translation rights, compilation rights and other transferable rights that copyright owners are entitled to, and this Website shall have the right to sue for any infringement on such copyright and obtain full compensation for such infringement. This Agreement shall apply to any content that is published by you on this Website and is protected by copyright law, regardless of whether the content is generated before or after the signing of this Agreement.
10.4 You shall not illegally use or dispose of the intellectual property rights of this Website or any other person during your use of the services offered by this Website. For any information that you publish on this Website, you may not publish or authorize other websites (or media) to use such information in any manner wuatsoever.
10.5 Your log into this Website or use of any of the services offered by this Website shall not be deemed as our transfer of any intellectual property to you.
11.Information protection Regarding the collection and use of your personal information and storage protection, the privacy policy publicized on this website shall prevail.
12.Calculation All the transaction calculations are verified by us, and all the calculation methods have been posted on the Website, but we can not ensure that your use of this Website will not be disturbed or free from errors.
13.Export Control You understand and acknowledge that in accordance with relevant laws of the Republic of Lithuania, you shall not export, re-export, import or transfer any material (including software) on this Website; therefore, you hereby undertake that you will not voluntarily commit or assist or participate in any of the above export or related transfer or other violations of applicable laws and regulations; if you uncover any of the aforementioned events, you will report to us and assist us in handling them.
14.Transfer The rights and obligations agreed in this Agreement shall be equally binding on the assignees, the heirs, executors and administrators of the parties hereto who benefit from the rights and obligations. Without our consent, you may not transfer to any third party any of your rights or obligations hereunder, provided, however, we may, at any time, assign our rights and obligations under this Agreement to any third party with thirty (30) days' notice to you.
15. Reversals and Cancellations: You agree and understand that you cannot cancel, reverse, or change any transaction that has been marked as complete in your account. We reserve the right to refuse to process, or to cancel or reverse, any transaction conducted under your account in our sole discretion, even after funds have been debited from your account, and we are under no obligation to allow you to reinstate a purchase or sale order at the same price or on the same terms as the cancelled transaction:
15.1 If we suspect the transaction involves (or has a high risk of involvement in) suspicious trading activity or violations of these Terms;
15.2 If we have reason to believe there was an obvious error in any term, including but not limited to the price, amount or any other info about the trade;
15.3 If there was disruption or malfunction in the operation of any trading system; or
if there were extraordinary market conditions or other circumstances in which the nullification or modification of transactions may be necessary.
15.4. If the company fails to comply with the terms and conditions of the sale or services, the company will refund the full amount paid from users.
16.* if we suspect the transaction involves (or has a high risk of involvement in) suspicious trading activity or violations of these Terms;
17.* if we have reason to believe there was an obvious error in any term, including but not limited to the price, amount or any other info about the trade;
18.* if there was disruption or malfunction in the operation of any trading system; or
19.* if there were extraordinary market conditions or other circumstances in which the nullification or modification of transactions may be necessary.
20. Severability Severability If any provision of this Agreement is found unenforceable, invalid or illegal by any court of competent jurisdiction, validity of the remaining provisions of this Agreement shall not be affected.
21.No Agency Nothing in this Agreement shall be deemed to have created, implied or otherwise treated us as your agent, trustee or other representative, unless it is provided otherwise in this Agreement.
22.Waiver Our or your waiver of the right to hold the other party liable for breaches of agreement or any other liability as is agreed upon in this Agreement shall not be construed or deemed as a waiver of the right to hold the other party for other breaches of contract; a failure to exercise any right or remedy shall not be construed in any way as a waiver of such right or remedy.
23.Headings All headings herein are exclusively for the convenience of wording and are not intended to to expand or limit the content or scope of the terms and conditions of this Agreement.
24.Applicable Law This Agreement in its entirety is a contract concluded under the laws of the Republic of Lithuania, and relevant laws of the Republic of Lithuania shall apply to its establishment, interpretation, content and enforcement; Any claims or actions arising out of or relating to the Services agreed in this Agreement shall be governed and interpreted and enforced in accordance with the laws of the Republic of Lithuania. For the avoidance of doubt, this Clause shall be expressly applicable to any tort claim against us. The competent court or forum for any claim or action against us or in relation to us shall be in the Republic of Lithuania. You have unconditional access to exclusive jurisdiction in court proceedings and appeals in the courts of the Republic of Lithuania. You also unconditionally agree that the venue or competent court for any dispute or problem relating to this Agreement or any claim and proceeding arising from this Agreement shall be exclusively in the Republic of Lithuania. If any other business of this Website is subject to any special agreement on jurisdiction, such agreement shall prevail. The Doctrine of Forum Non Conveniens does not apply to the court of choice under these Terms of Service.
25.Entry into Force and Interpretation of the Agreement
25.1 This Agreement shall enter into force when you click through the registration page of this Website, complete the registration procedures, obtain your account number and password of this Website, and shall be binding on you and this Website
25.2 The ultimate power of interpretation of this Agreement shall be vested in this Website.


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Terms of Privacy
Preamble and Reminder
BITSTORE EUROPE UAB (hereinafter referred to as “the Company”), a company incorporated under the laws of the Republic of Lithuania with registered address: Vilnius, Laisvės pr. 60, Lithuania, operates the BITSTORE APP. (hereinafter referred to as “this Platform” or “the Platform”), which is a Platform that is exclusively used by users to trade digital assets and provides them with relevant Services (hereinafter referred to as “the Services”). For the convenience of wording in this Agreement, the Company and the Website are collectively referred to as “We” or other appropriate forms of the first-person pronouns. Any natural person or entity that logs into the Platform shall be a user thereof and are hereinafter referred to as “You” or any other applicable forms of the second-person pronouns. Hereinafter You and us are collectively referred to as “both parties”, and individually as “a party”.
We fully understand and respect the importance of Your personal information to You, and We will adopt corresponding appropriate safety protection measures to protect Your personal information in accordance with the requirements of the applicable laws and regulations. In view of this, this Privacy Policy (hereinafter referred to as “this Policy/this Privacy Policy”) is formulated and the following reminder is provided to You:
This Policy applies to all products and services We provide. If another privacy policy is specifically applicable to any product or service We provide to You, such privacy policy shall prevail; otherwise, this Privacy Policy shall prevail.
In particular, this Policy does not apply to services provided to You by any third party, and such services shall be subject to a privacy policy that is otherwise specified to You.
Before using our products or services, please read carefully and thoroughly understand this Policy, and pay special attention to the clauses that are in bold type or underlined and in bold type, make sure that You fully understand and agree to them before You start using our products or services. If You have any question, comment or suggestion in connection with any content of this Policy, You can contact us through any of the contact methods officially provided by us. If You do not agree with any term or condition in this Policy, You should promptly stop accessing this Platform.
Part I Definition
Personal information: various kinds of information recorded electronically or otherwise, which, alone or in combination with any other information, can identify the identity of a specific natural person or reflect the activities of a specific natural person.
Personal sensitive information: personal information, including Identity Card number, personal biometric information, bank account numbers, property information, tracks of whereabouts, transaction information, and information of children who are not older than fourteen(14) years old, inter alia. (We will prominently identify specific personal sensitive information in bold type in this Privacy Policy).
Deletion of personal information: the act of removing personal information from the systems involved in daily business functions to keep it in a state that cannot be retrieved or accessed.
Children: minors under the age of fourteen(14).
Part II Privacy Policy
This Section will help You understand the following:
1. How We collect and use Your information
2. How We use Cookie and similar technologies
3. How We share, transfer and publicly disclose Your information
4. How We protect Your information
5. How You manage Your information
6. How We deal with the information of minors
7. How this Privacy Policy is updated
8. How to contact us
I. How We collect and use Your information
When You use our products and/or services, We need/may need to collect and use Your personal information, including the following two types of information:
1. In order to enable the basic functions of the services/products We provide to You, You need to authorize us to collect and use Your information as may be necessary. If You refuse to provide such information, You will not be able to use our products and/or services normally;
2. In order to enable the auxiliary functions of the services/products We provide to You, You may choose to authorize us to collect and use Your information as is necessary. If You refuse to provide such information, You will not be able to use the corresponding auxiliary functions or cannot achieve the intended effects of such functions, which, however, will not affected Your normal access to the basic functions of our products and/or services;
You understand and agree:
1. We are committed to creating diversified products and services to meet Your needs. As We provide a wide variety of products and services to You, and the specific range of products/services that different users choose to use may vary from person to person, therefore, the corresponding basic/additional functions of such services and products, as well as the types and ranges of personal information collected and used hereunder may also vary subject to the specific product/service functions.
2. In order to provide You with a better product and service experience, We are making continuous efforts to improve our technology. Subsequently, We may introduce new or optimized functions from time to time, and may need to collect and use new personal information or change the purpose or method of using such personal information. In this regard, We will separately explain to You the purpose, scope and usage of the corresponding information by updating this Policy, pop-up windows, page prompts, inter alia, and provide You with the means to choose and agree at Your discretion, and collect and use the corresponding information after obtaining Your express consent. During this process, if You have any questions, comments or suggestions, You can contact us through various contact methods provided by this Platform, and We will provide a reply to You as soon as possible.
We will collect and use Your personal information to realize the following functions under this Policy:
i. Help You register and provide You with the services offered by this Platform;
1. Registration Service
We provide You with basic membership services through Your account with the Platform. In order to register as a member and access our membership services, You need to fill in and provide the following information when applying for registration:
(1) Identity Information. Such information can help us verify whether You are eligible to be registered as a member of this Platform. Such information includes but is not limited to Your name, address of Your place of residence, and other certificates and corresponding numbers thereof that are issued by Your country or government to certify Your identity information, as well as all other information that can help us verify Your identity (hereinafter referred to as "Identity Information"). Such Identity Information may vary depending whether You are an individual user or institutional user. Furthermore, in accordance with the applicable laws and regulations of different jurisdictions, the information collected by the Platform from users may vary depending on the country or region that the users are from. The following information and data are intended to serve as an indicative example:
For an individual user: his/her nationality, full legal name (including former names, if any, as well as his/her name presented in the local language of such individual user), Identity Card number, email address, telephone number, social security number ("SSN"), passport number or any other government-issued identity card number, date of birth, proof of identity (e.g. passport, driver's license or other identity certificates issued by the government).
For an institutional user: its legal corporation name (including its legal corporation name in the local language of such user), registration information, business telephone number, personal information of the authorized representative, primary business premises, and personal information of all shareholders/beneficial owners thereof (passports or identity cards issued by the government), the corporate structure of the institutional user, documents relating to the formation of the institutional user, resolutions of the board of directors thereof, declaration of the source of funding thereof, risk and compliance control instructions and other information or documents as may be required by the Platform.
(2) Service information. Such information helps us to contact You and successfully provide You with different forms of digital asset trading services. Such information includes but is not limited to: Your personal Identity Information, contact information, transaction information, as well as Your debit card information and/or other account information (hereinafter collectively referred to as "Service Information"). Furthermore, let it be understood that the Services We provide to You are subject to constant update and development. If You choose to use any other service that is not covered by the above description, and therefore it is necessary for us to collect additional information of Yours based on such service, We will explain to You the scope and purpose of such information collection through notices on web pages, interactive processes, agreements, and pop-up prompts, among others, to obtain Your consent to such collection.
If You only need to use the browsing service, You do not need to register as a member and provide the above information.
2. Other Registration Services
Real-name authentication: after You register and log in, You need to enter the "Personal Center" to complete the real-name authentication. During the process of such real-name authentication, You need to provide Your real name, identity card number or passport number to the Platform.
Advanced Certification: when Your transaction volume on this Platform exceeds a certain limit, the Platform will require You to undergo advanced certification, in order to ensure the safety of Your assets. You agree that in such advanced authentication process, in addition to providing the information required for the real name authentication, You will also undergo the advanced authentication procedures of "facial recognition", as is required by the Platform. Facial recognition will involve the collection of Your relevant video streams or face images by the Platform.
Account Information Display: if You already have an account with the Platform, We may display Your above-mentioned personal information in the services (for real-name authentication, only the outcome of such authentication will be displayed, i.e., whether You have passed such authentication or not) and the operations You perform in the products and services associated with Your account with the Platform, including centralized display of Your personal data and transaction orders through Your Platform account. We respect Your choices in connection with the set-up of Your account with the Platform.
ii. Security Management Services and Service Information Push Services
When You use the services provided by this Platform or access this Platform, in order to ensure Your transaction security and the safe and stable operation of services, this Platform needs to automatically receive and record Your web browser information, Your device information, including the device identification information (the type and model of device through which You log into Your account), Your IP address and records on the web page You request to visit, Your location, network environment, device fingerprint information, service log information, software information, location information, inter alia.
Please note that device information alone cannot identify a specific natural person. If We use this kind of non-personal information in combination with other information to determine the identity of a specific natural person, or use it in combination with personal information, such non-personal information will be regarded as personal information during such combination. Unless otherwise authorized by You or required by any of the applicable laws and regulations, We will anonymize such information and remove all identification marks therein.
In order to provide You with more convenient and personalized information display and push services, We may extract Your preferred features based on Your device information and Your browsing and usage information on this Platform or the client thereof in the future, and generate indirect group profiling based on such features, for the purpose of displaying and pushing information and possible commercial advertisements. If You do not agree to receive information pushed to You in this way, or wish to withdraw Your consent to the collection of Your personal information, You can contact us in accordance with the contact information provided under this Policy.
We strive to ensure Your browsing experience. If You do not want to receive the commercial advertising We send to You, You can unsubscribe to such advertising or otherwise disable this function by sending us a short text message or in any other way We specify.
Furthermore, We will also use the above-mentioned information of Yours to continuously improve and optimize the above functions.
iii. Keeping and Inquiry of Transaction Records
We collect data related to Your transactions on this Platform, including but not limited to transaction records. If You need to query Your order transaction records, You can query Your personal transaction details in the "Order Management" section of the Platform, which include: cyber name of the transaction counter-party, time of order placement, order serial numbers, transaction information, type and quantity of digital assets involved, inter alia.
iv. Customer Service and Dispute Resolution
When You contact us or apply to us for in-sales and after-sales service or for dispute resolution, We need You to provide necessary personal information to verify Your membership, so as to ensure the security of Your account and the system.
In order to facilitate our contact with You, help You solve the problems as soon as possible or record the solutions and results of the problems, We may keep Your communication records and related content (including Your account information, order information, other information You provide to prove the relevant facts, or contact information You provide). If You make queries, lodge complaints or provide suggestions in connection with any specific order, We will use Your account information and order information.
As may be reasonably necessary for us to provide services and improve service quality, We may also use other information of Yours, including the relevant information You provide when You contact our customer service department, and the replies You provide to our questionnaire surveys.
v. Miscellaneous
1. If the information You provide involve any personal information of any other user, You must ensure that You have obtained legal authorization before providing such personal information to this Platform. If any personal information of any child is involved, You must obtain the consent of such child's guardian before You may release such information. Under the aforementioned circumstance, the guardian shall have the right to contact us in any of the ways specified under Article IX of this Policy to request for the correction or deletion of any content involving the personal information of such child.
2. If We use any information hereunder for any purpose not specified in this Policy, or use any information collected for any specific purpose for any purposes other than such specific purpose, or We take the initiative to obtain Your personal information from a third party, We will obtain Your prior consent.
If We obtain Your information indirectly from a third party, We will explicitly require such third party in writing to obtain Your prior consent in accordance with law before collecting any personal information of Yours, inform You of the content of Your information that such third party shares with us, and obtain Your explicit confirmation before providing us with any sensitive information of Yours; furthermore, we will require such third party to provide an undertaking as to the legality and compliance of the source of personal information such third party provides to us. If the third party violates any of the applicable laws, We will explicitly require such third party to bear the corresponding legal responsibilities; furthermore, We will strengthen the security of personal information (including by proper filing of sensitive information, encrypted storage of sensitive information, access control, inter alia). We will use no less than the same methods and measures used by us to protect the personal information of our users to protect such personal information indirectly obtained by us.
3. Exceptions to the Requirements for Authorization and Consent
You fully understand and agree that under any of the following circumstances Your authorization is not required for us to collect and use Your personal information, and We are not obliged to respond to Your requests for correction/modification, deletion and cancellation of your information, or your requests for the withdrawal of your consent or your requests to access your information:
(1) Where state security and/or national defense security are involved;
(2) Where public security, public health and/or major public interests are involved;
(3) Where judicial or administrative enforcement, e.g., criminal investigation, prosecution, trial and sentence enforcement, is involved;
(4) Where it is for the purpose of protecting Your or another person’s life, property and/or any other important legal rights and interests, yet it is difficult to obtain the consent of Yours or such person, as the case may be;
(5) Where such information is Your personal information that You disclose to the public by Yourself;
(6) Where such information is Your personal information that is collected from legally disclosed information, such as legal news reports and government information disclosures, inter alia.
(7) Where it is required by any agreement or any other written document signed with You;
(8) Where it is necessary for maintaining the safe and stable operation of the products and/or services provided hereunder, such as uncovering and handling errors and faults in the products and/or services hereunder;
(9) Where it is necessary for legal news reporting;
(10) Where it is necessary for any public-interests-based statistical survey or academic research by any academic research institute, and when the results of such research or survey are provided externally, the personal information contained in such results shall be neutralized; and
(11) Other circumstances stipulated by any of the applicable laws and regulations.
Please be aware that in accordance with the applicable laws, if We adopt technical measures and other necessary measures to process personal information so that the data recipient cannot re-identify a specific individual and cannot restore such personal information to its status prior to our processing, or We may conduct unmarked research, statistical analysis and prediction on the collected information to improve the content and layout of this Platform, to provide product or service support for business decisions, and to improve our products and services (including using anonymous data for machine learning or model algorithm training), then the use of such processed information shall not be subject to a separate notice to You or Your consent.
4. If We stop operating the products or services of this Platform, We will stop collecting Your personal information in a timely manner, notify You of such termination of operation either through a special one-on-one notice to You or a general public announcement, and we will delete or anonymize the personal information that We hold in connection with such terminated business.
II. How We Use Cookies
If Your browser or browser’s add-on service permits, You can change the setting of Your browser so as to modify its degree of cookie acceptance or so that Your browser rejects Our cookies. For more details, please refer to AboutCookies.org. However, if You make such changes, it may affect Your safe access to our Platform under certain circumstances, and in this case, You may need to change Your user settings every time You visit our Platform. You understand and agree that:
1. When You visit our Platform, we will use Google Stats via cookies to record our performance and check the effect of online advertising. Cookies are small amounts of data sent to Your browser and stored on Your computer hard drive. Cookies can only be sent to Your computer hard disk when You use Your computer to access our Platform.
2. Cookies are often used to record the habits and preferences of visitors when they visit various items on our Platform. The data collected via cookies are anonymous collective statistics and do not contain personal data.
3. Cookies cannot be used to obtain data on Your hard disk, Your email address, or Your personal data; instead, they enable the Platform or service provider’s system to recognize Your browser and capture and remember information. Most browsers are preset to accept cookies. You can choose to set Your browser to refuse to accept cookies, or to notify You as soon as cookies are installed. However, if Your browser is preset to prohibit cookies, You may be unable to start or use some features of our Platform.
III. How We share, transfer and publicly disclose Your information
(1) Sharing
We will not share Your personal information with any company, organization and individual other than service providers of this Platform, except for under any of the following circumstances:
1. Sharing under statutory circumstances: we may share Your personal information externally in accordance with applicable laws and regulations, or as may be necessary for litigation and dispute resolution requirements, or as is required by administrative and judicial authorities.
2. Sharing with explicit consent: after obtaining Your explicit consent, We will share Your personal information with other parties.
3. Sharing subject to Your voluntary choice: We will, in accordance with Your choice, share with the transaction counter-party of the digital assets the necessary information related to the transaction in Your order information, so as to meet Your transactions related to transaction and after-sales services.
4. Sharing with authorized partners: we will share information with our affiliated parties and trusted third parties that help us operate our Platform, carry out business or provide services to You, as long as these parties agree to keep the information strictly confidential; We will share information when We believe that such disclosure of information is appropriate, in compliance with laws, regulations, rules and regulations or orders from courts of law or other competent authorities, implements our Platform strategy, is required for the normal operation of the Platform, is required for related parties to provide services or protect our or any other person’s rights, property or safety.
ii. Transfer
We will not transfer Your personal information to any company, organization or individual except for under any of the following circumstances:
1. Transfer subject to explicit consent: After obtaining Your explicit consent, We will transfer Your personal information to another party;
2. In the event of the merger, acquisition or bankruptcy liquidation of the Platform, or any other situation involving merger, acquisition or bankruptcy liquidation, if the transfer of personal information is involved therein, We will require the new company or organization holding Your personal information originally held by us to continue abiding by this Policy; otherwise We will require such company or organization or individuals involved to seek Your authorization and consent.
iii. Public Disclosure
We will only publicly disclose Your personal information under the following circumstances:
1. We may publicly disclose Your personal information with Your explicit consent or based on Your voluntary choice;
2. If We determine that You have violated any of the applicable laws and regulations or seriously violated any of the relevant agreement or rules of the Platform, or in order to protect the personal and property safety of users of the Platform or the public from infringement, We may disclose Your personal information in accordance with the applicable laws and regulations or with Your consent, including relevant violations and measures already taken against You by the Platform.
iv. Exceptions to the requirements for Your prior authorization and consent for the sharing, transfer or public disclosure of your personal information
Under the following circumstances, the sharing, transfer or public disclosure of Your personal information is not subject to Your prior authorization and consent:
(1) where state security and/or national defense security are involved;
(2) where public security, public health and/or major public interests are involved;
(3) Where judicial or administrative enforcement, e.g., criminal investigation, prosecution, trial and sentence enforcement, is involved;
(4) Where it is for the purpose of protecting Your or another person’s life, property and/or any other important legal rights and interests, yet it is difficult to obtain the consent of Yours or such person, as the case may be;
(5) Where such information is Your personal information that You disclose to the public by Yourself; and
(6) Where such information is Your personal information that is collected from legally disclosed information, such as legal news reports and government information disclosures, inter alia.
Please be aware that in accordance with the applicable laws, if We adopt technical measures and other necessary measures to process personal information so that the data recipient cannot re-identify a specific individual and cannot restore such personal information to its status prior to our processing, then the sharing, transfer or public disclosure of such personal data so processed shall not be subject to notification to You or consent by You.
IV. How We protect Your information
1. We implement proper physical, electronic, management and technical measures to protect and safeguard Your personal data. We will exert our best efforts to ensure that any personal data collected through our Platform are free from any nuisance caused by any third party unrelated to us. The safety measures We adopt include but are not limited to:
(1) Physical measures: Records containing Your personal data will be stored in a properly locked place.
(2) Electronic measures: Computer data containing Your personal information will be stored in computer systems and storage media that are subject to strict log-in restriction.
(3) Management measures: We have set up an internal safety defense department to protect the users' information, established relevant internal control systems, and adopted the principle of strict authorization for our employees who may come into contact with Your information; therefore, only properly authorized employees are permitted to come into contact with Your personal information and such employees must comply with our internal confidentiality rules for personal data. Furthermore, we provide sustained training to our staff on relevant laws and regulations, privacy and safety guidelines, enhance publicity and education on safety awareness, and organize our relevant internal personnel to carry out emergency response training and emergency drills on a regular basis, so as to enable them to fully understand their job duties and emergency response strategies and procedures.
(4) Technical Measures: encryption technology such as Secure Socket Layer Encryption may be adopted to transfer Your personal data.
(5) Security Measures: In order to ensure Your information security, we are committed to using various currently available general security technologies and supporting management systems to minimize the risks that Your information may be disclosed, damaged, misused, accessed without authorization, disclosed without authorization or altered. For example, the Secure Socket Layer (SSL) software is used for encrypted transmission, encrypted information storage and strict restriction of data center access. When transmitting and storing sensitive personal information (including personal biometric information), we will adopt security measures such as encryption, authority control, removal of identification marks, and de-sensitization, inter alia.
(6) Other measures: We regularly review our personal data collection, storage and processing procedures; furthermore, we limit the access of our employees and suppliers to Your data in accordance with the principle of “as necessary”, and our employees and suppliers must abide by strict contractual confidentiality obligations.
2. If You become aware of any security vulnerability of our Platform, please contact us promptly so that We can adopt appropriate actions as soon as possible.
3. Despite the above-mentioned technical and security measures, We cannot guarantee the absolute safety of data transmission on the Internet, so We cannot absolutely guarantee that the personal data You provide to us through our Platform are safe at all times. We will not regularly update and make public security risks and personal information security impact assessment reports, inter alia, which You can obtain through announcements made by this Platform.
V. How You manage Your information
You can access and manage Your information in any of the following ways:
i. Query, correct and delete Your information
You have the right to obtain a copy of Your personal data upon Your request, and to determine whether the information we have about You is accurate and up-to-date. If any of Your personal data is not accurate, You can request to update Your information. You can also request for the deletion of Your personal data, provided, however, we may reject Your deletion request in some cases, e.g., where such rejection is required by law or for other legal purposes. For data access, correction or deletion requests, please contact us according to the contact information under Article VIII hereof.
In response to application for access to or correction or deletion of data, we will verify the identity of the applicant to ensure that such applicant is legally entitled to make such application. Although our goal is to respond to such application on a gratuitous basis, we reserve the right to charge You a reasonable fee if Your request is repeated or onerous.
ii. Changing the scope of Your authorization
The fulfillment of each business function is subject to certain basic personal information (see Part I of this Privacy Policy). Furthermore, You can contact us through the contact information under Article VIII to grant or withdraw Your authorization.
When You withdraw Your consent, We will no longer process the corresponding personal information. However, Your decision to withdraw Your consent will not affect the existing personal information processing based on Your authorization.
iii. Cancellation of Your account
You can contact us through the contact information under Article VIII hereof to apply for cancellation of Your account. After You voluntarily cancel Your account, We will stop providing You with products or services, and delete Your personal information or anonymize it in accordance with the requirements of applicable laws.
iv. Respond to Your above requests
To ensure safety, You may need to provide a written request or prove Your identity in other ways. We may ask You to verify Your identity before processing Your request.
We will reply within fifteen(15) days. If You are not satisfied with our reply, You can also initiate a complaint through the contact information provided by us.
In principle, We do not charge any fee on Your reasonable requests, provided, however, We may charge a certain fee on Your repeated requests or requests that exceed reasonable limits, based on the actual circumstances. We may reject requests involving information that is not directly related to Your identity, unjustified repeated information, or requests that require too many technical means (e.g. to develop new systems or fundamentally change existing practices), requests that pose risks to any other person's legitimate rights and interests, or are unrealistic.
Under the following circumstances, We will not be able to respond to Your request in accordance with applicable laws and regulations:
1. where state security and/or national defense security are involved;
2. where public security, public health and/or major public interests are involved;
3. Where judicial or administrative enforcement, e.g., criminal investigation, prosecution, trial and sentence enforcement, is involved;
4. Where there is sufficient evidence proving that the owner of such personal information has subjective malice or abuse of power;
5. Where response to Your request would cause serious damage to the legitimate rights and interests of You or any other individual or organization;
6. Where any trade secret is involved.
VI. How We deal with the information of minors
This Platform is not open to children. If We find or suspect that the user is under 14 years old, We will ask the user to close his account and will not allow the user to continue to use the Platform products or services. We will delete the relevant information as soon as possible. If You know that anyone under the age of 14 uses our services, please inform us so that We can take action to prevent them from obtaining our products or services.
If we find out or suspect that a user is less than fourteen (14) years old, we will ask the user to close his/her account and will not allow the user to continue using the products and services of the Platform. We will delete the relevant information of such users as soon as possible. If You know that any person who is under the age of fourteen (14) uses our services, please notify us so that we can adopt actions to prevent such user from accessing our products or services.
For minors who have reached the age of fourteen(14) but are less than eighteen(18) years old, We expect their parents or guardians to guide such minors in using our services. We will protect the confidentiality and security of such minors' information in accordance with relevant state laws and regulations.
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Thanks, joker_josue, I initially thought it as javascript but when it didn't work I was too lazy to check
I wonder why they did it, after all while browsing through it there was nothing out of the ordinary, the same mumbo-jumbo as we won't do anything unless we will do it  Grin and maybe this thing below which is clearly wtf material.

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6.2 Shall you breach this Agreement or any applicable law or administrative regulation, you shall pay to us at least US$ Two million in compensation and bear all the expenses in connection with such breach (including attorney's fees, among others). If such compensation cannot cover the actual loss, you shall make up for the difference.

I suppose it's a joke, right? Right?!

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Thanks, joker_josue, I initially thought it as javascript but when it didn't work I was too lazy to check
I wonder why they did it, after all while browsing through it there was nothing out of the ordinary, the same mumbo-jumbo as we won't do anything unless we will do it  Grin and maybe this thing below which is clearly wtf material.

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6.2 Shall you breach this Agreement or any applicable law or administrative regulation, you shall pay to us at least US$ Two million in compensation and bear all the expenses in connection with such breach (including attorney's fees, among others). If such compensation cannot cover the actual loss, you shall make up for the difference.

I suppose it's a joke, right? Right?!

A normal clause. This basically means that if a user uses the service to commit fraud, and they have to go to court because of it, that user will have to compensate them for that "loss". Now where did they get this value? I don't know...

As for the fact that the page was redirected, I believe that that was development code, when I was building the page, code that was never removed.

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6.2 Shall you breach this Agreement or any applicable law or administrative regulation, you shall pay to us at least US$ Two million in compensation and bear all the expenses in connection with such breach (including attorney's fees, among others). If such compensation cannot cover the actual loss, you shall make up for the difference.

I suppose it's a joke, right? Right?!

A normal clause. This basically means that if a user uses the service to commit fraud, and they have to go to court because of it, that user will have to compensate them for that "loss". Now where did they get this value? I don't know...

I would never use a service where they oblige me to pay stupid nonsense fees like this as severance.

This should surely be mentioned if I add this product to the OP.

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A normal clause. This basically means that if a user uses the service to commit fraud, and they have to go to court because of it, that user will have to compensate them for that "loss". Now where did they get this value? I don't know...

The company is licensed in the EU and it operates under EU laws, for a decade we had a directive against unfair terms and conditions, basically you can write whatever you want there if a judge says those are unfair for the customer you can wipe your ass with their T&C.

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Every time you buy a product or service from a professional trader, you're entering into a contract - whether it's signing up for gym membership, ordering car tyres online, getting a mortgage for your house or even just buying your weekly shopping from the supermarket. Under EU law, standard contract terms used by traders have to be fair. This doesn't change if they're called "terms and conditions" or are part of a detailed contract that you actually have to sign. The contract is not allowed to create an imbalance between your rights and obligations as a consumer and the rights and obligations of sellers and suppliers.

They can say in their ToS that if you try to hack account they will get a kidney from you,  or that if you don't log in for a day they shave 10% of your account, that doesn't make it legal or enforceable in any way.

I would never use a service where they oblige me to pay stupid nonsense fees like this as severance.
This should surely be mentioned if I add this product to the OP.

Exactly, they could have just let the normal procedure there but the give us at least 2 millions $ makes it look like it's being run by either kids or amateurs.

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The company is licensed in the EU and it operates under EU laws, for a decade we had a directive against unfair terms and conditions, basically you can write whatever you want there if a judge says those are unfair for the customer you can wipe your ass with their T&C.

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Exactly, they could have just let the normal procedure there but the give us at least 2 millions $ makes it look like it's being run by either kids or amateurs.

That's right! That mentioned value doesn't make any sense.
Suffice to say, if they go to court because of a user, the user could be sued by them. It was enough, because values are totally unrealistic.

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I found another service that offers prepaid cards:
https://trocador.app/en/prepaidcards/

Did you already know about this service?


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Up to $1000 per card, but no limit on the number of cards you can buy. Our cards are issued with a one-time fee of $2 + 3% of the amount. We offer multiple card provider and currency options, some even have a 0% currency conversion fee, so you can spend anywhere without paying more for it! Choose the one that fits you better!

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Keeping an eye on Apple Cash, which now has a feature to generate virtual debit cards from your Apple devices  Shocked

https://9to5mac.com/2024/02/11/apple-cash-virtual-card-number-feature/

You cannot directly load Apple Cash with crypto obviously, but it comes from the credit cards you've linked with Apple Pay.

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A normal clause. This basically means that if a user uses the service to commit fraud, and they have to go to court because of it, that user will have to compensate them for that "loss". Now where did they get this value? I don't know...
Typical BS coming from China  Tongue
I wonder how are they planning to find someone who registered without kyc, using random name and email address.
All they can do if cards are used for some fraud or illegal stuff is to freeze account with leftover funds, and prevent access on their platform.
Situation is much different if user makes a full kyc registration with all personal details, or if someone hacks his account and uses cards for some fraud.

I found another service that offers prepaid cards:
https://trocador.app/en/prepaidcards/
I know about this service, but I never used their cards.

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Keeping an eye on Apple Cash, which now has a feature to generate virtual debit cards from your Apple devices  Shocked
https://9to5mac.com/2024/02/11/apple-cash-virtual-card-number-feature/
You cannot directly load Apple Cash with crypto obviously, but it comes from the credit cards you've linked with Apple Pay.

But it won't be a crypto card, not much of a card itself actually, they are just generating you a virtual number every time you want to purchase without apple pay..
If you have already a card that you can load with crypto you could just select that and pay directly with it. What is nice in this one (if Apple keeps the feature) is that you could activate and deactivate it whenever you want it, so perfect for paying on shady websites and not care bout recurring payments.
That again, not a crypto card!

I found another service that offers prepaid cards:
https://trocador.app/en/prepaidcards/
Did you already know about this service?

Trocador was (and probablyl is) legit for swaps, used it for monero<>bitcoin through their partners, never encountered a thing, never had to contact them even with C ranked exchanges. As for the card itself, to be honest I wouldn't trust a KYC debit card 100% no matter who provides it to you, Visa can always pull the plug on them in an instant.  It will work fine , till it won't!  Wink

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I am in the market (again) for a new crypto card.
Watching the initial post list, can some1 explain the difference between the "crypto supported" and "funding method" ?
I mean, can I assume I can fund any of those cards with a supported crypto transfer? If so, why only a very few have "crypto" in the funding methods?
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My question is which is the best NO KYC debit card for crypto?  Smiley

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do they even exist?
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The list in the first post needs some updating. Jupiter has been defunct for 3 years, crypterium gives 404, paycent appears to be gone, tenx not working as well.

I dont think there is any KYC-free debit card available anymore or at least I havent found one. I think this thread could be expanded to include prepaid cards too. Prepaid cards can be bought without KYC but they dont work always (need to try on different stores to find out which accept them). Bitrefill sells prepaid mastercards for cheapest but the only problem is you need residential USA IP to buy them (the prepaid codes work fine worldwide). The dollar denominated mastercards that Trocador sells are from the same issuer. Trocador euro denominated cards are from different issuer and Ive had best success with them, also a nice 3 years expiry as opposed to 6 months on the mastercard. Only problem is the high fees from trocador.
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thanks for reply,
anyway, can I assume all the cards in the first post can be topped up with crypto?
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The list in the first post needs some updating. Jupiter has been defunct for 3 years, crypterium gives 404, paycent appears to be gone, tenx not working as well.
You can always fork his list and maintain it yourself.
That is what NotATether did with previous list but he didn't updated for months, and I think he works more on other projects.

I dont think there is any KYC-free debit card available anymore or at least I havent found one.
There are, but they are only virtual, not physical cards.

Bitrefill sells prepaid mastercards for cheapest but the only problem is you need residential USA IP to buy them (the prepaid codes work fine worldwide).
Or just use IP address from US.
There is one nice alternative for Bitrefill that works in similar way - thebitcoincompany.com.

The dollar denominated mastercards that Trocador sells are from the same issuer. Trocador euro denominated cards are from different issuer and Ive had best success with them, also a nice 3 years expiry as opposed to 6 months on the mastercard. Only problem is the high fees from trocador.
Bit.store has lower fees for some of their cards, but their support is very poor.
Only cards with 3ds that I know can be found on stealths.net, but do your own research.

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Only cards with 3ds that I know can be found on stealths.net, but do your own research.

Their rates are also not the best. It's always 5$ + 2.5%. It only pays off if you use high values.

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Only cards with 3ds that I know can be found on stealths.net, but do your own research.

Aren't all cards issued by a company in the EU required to have 3DS as part of PSD2 in the EU?
I remember that 2021 was the end of the delay will it became mandatory.

Their rates are also not the best. It's always 5$ + 2.5%. It only pays off if you use high values.

I can't believe I spent 5 minutes looking at this:

used the calculator, started from 250 then from 282.96 to see how they managed to get 2.5% to be 10% till I realized that the final price is in $ not euros.

Anyhow, quite curios on this, do those card work with ATMs? I might carry one with a few hundred $ with me on a holiday as second emergency fund and dump it after, not to go again through the same thing as in my last vacation. But now way I would go though KYC with some shady company, I would rather just order a second card from a local bank instead.




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February 15, 2024, 01:41:37 PM
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Only cards with 3ds that I know can be found on stealths.net, but do your own research.

Aren't all cards issued by a company in the EU required to have 3DS as part of PSD2 in the EU?
I remember that 2021 was the end of the delay will it became mandatory.

Yes, since 2021 it has become mandatory for card issuing companies in the EU and United Kingdom to have the 3DS security system.
If this service is eventually not available, the card (allegedly) cannot be used for online purchases.

Therefore, EU users should always look for cards that have the 3DS.

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Their rates are also not the best. It's always 5$ + 2.5%. It only pays off if you use high values.
Then again, who dares to put bigger amount in one of those no KYC cards? Catch 22 if you ask me.

At this moment I just gave up on getting my next crypto card and instead I'll just do what I did before I started using Binance Visa and that's cashing out crypto p2p irl and putting money on my bank card, while those things that I want to pay anonymously usually have crypto payment options anyway. Still keeping an eye if something interesting shows up.


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February 15, 2024, 08:40:56 PM
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Their rates are also not the best. It's always 5$ + 2.5%. It only pays off if you use high values.
Don't compare all cards only by fees.
You can't find any other 3ds card in the world without kyc, so fees can't be the same like without 3ds, and they have other cards with lower fees.

What I think is the worst thing about prepaid cards is that it is not possible to top up, so there usually always ends up being some money left over, even if it is little.
Some cards are allowing withdrawals and top ups, so do your research better, but I don't care about leftovers unless they are sats.

Aren't all cards issued by a company in the EU required to have 3DS as part of PSD2 in the EU?
I remember that 2021 was the end of the delay will it became mandatory.
I think stealths cards are issued in United States, but you should better ask them how they are doing it.
From their website 3ds card:
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The card is issued by U.S. bank. Card base balance is USD, after activation EUR amount of payment will be converted to USD and added to your card balance. It can be used internationally with different currencies, there isn't any currency conversion fee.

Then again, who dares to put bigger amount in one of those no KYC cards? Catch 22 if you ask me.
I would not put a lot of money there, but few hundred dollars is acceptable risk for me, for someone else this amount could be lower or higher.
If I need to buy something I send coins, I create a card and spend everything on purchase, so I dont keep money on cards.

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Long overdue update done.

Do you guys think I should erase my squabbling with Symmetrick from post #5 and make them reserved posts instead?

As you know, he deleted all his posts in this thread so it currently looks like a monologue. They are quite meaningless now.

This only touches my posts. Nobody else's posts get removed. (This thread is not self-moderated anyway.)

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February 16, 2024, 12:41:19 PM
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Long overdue update done.
You need to update again and check all the links manually.
Two cards from this list are not available anymore, that is Blockcard and Spend, but maybe there are more of them that needs to be removed.

Do you guys think I should erase my squabbling with Symmetrick from post #5 and make them reserved posts instead?
I think it's fine to do that.

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February 16, 2024, 02:38:07 PM
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Do you guys think I should erase my squabbling with Symmetrick from post #5 and make them reserved posts instead?
As you know, he deleted all his posts in this thread so it currently looks like a monologue. They are quite meaningless now.

The discussion made no sense in the first place so I don't know why you've kept it when he deleted his part.
People that would visit the topic later on would be interested in the cards not some discussion between users they might not even remember or know.

At this moment I just gave up on getting my next crypto card and instead I'll just do what I did before I started using Binance Visa and that's cashing out crypto p2p irl and putting money on my bank card, while those things that I want to pay anonymously usually have crypto payment options anyway.

That's what I did after the Wirex and Binance experience.
It's simply not worth it to have those cards as main cards, if you want to spend crypto just exchange and do a SEPA and that's it, if it comes to wirex it's even cheaper  with a bank transfer than their fees , plus with a national bank you at least get a bit of support good luck contacting their customer support departments.
I forgot to bump the wirex topic with that but when the cards went down I opened a ticket why they are not working, I got the reply for it and the ticket closed 2 months later, of course the same we're working on it.

Also, since somebody asked about Wirex a few pages ago, I can confirm that the old physical cards work now normally, so the ones issued a year ago, both for PoS transactions an ATMs, but really be careful if trying to withdraw money with it outside the eurozone, my friend went to an ING ATM and was asked for two methods of exchange, some forex rate and some interval bank or something, the forex option was coming with nearly 10% mark-up from euros to local currency.
Don't know if it's the bank or the card but just a heads up!

Aren't all cards issued by a company in the EU required to have 3DS as part of PSD2 in the EU?
I remember that 2021 was the end of the delay will it became mandatory.
I think stealths cards are issued in United States, but you should better ask them how they are doing it.

If those are issued in the US then that answers it, US cards are always finding a way to be a pain in the ass to use in Europe.

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I would not put a lot of money there, but few hundred dollars is acceptable risk for me, for someone else this amount could be lower or higher.
If I need to buy something I send coins, I create a card and spend everything on purchase, so I dont keep money on cards.
Yeah that sounds reasonable and not much different than what I was doing with Binance card.


It's simply not worth it to have those cards as main cards, if you want to spend crypto just exchange and do a SEPA and that's it, if it comes to wirex it's even cheaper  with a bank transfer than their fees , plus with a national bank you at least get a bit of support good luck contacting their customer support departments.
The only reason I was using Binance card for a couple of years was because I already had KYC done so why not, and it was very easy to reach 2% cashback (iirc you had to have 1 BNB) which  covered all the fees. For a certain period of time (last bull run) it was my main card and I barely had any issues with it but not willing to go through KYC hassle again, especially since I have a secure option for converting bitcoin to cash.



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Do you guys think I should erase my squabbling with Symmetrick from post #5 and make them reserved posts instead?

I think I should do that.

And you can even take advantage, if you want to keep a historical record, by placing cards that are no longer operational in one of these posts. But, without links, at least without being clickable).

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Long overdue update done.

Do you guys think I should erase my squabbling with Symmetrick from post #5 and make them reserved posts instead?

As you know, he deleted all his posts in this thread so it currently looks like a monologue. They are quite meaningless now.

This only touches my posts. Nobody else's posts get removed. (This thread is not self-moderated anyway.)

I personally don't delete any of my posts, and surely there can be advantages to cite other folks, especially if responding to controversial subject matters, including that the dweeb Symmetrick had already shown his character in terms of his having had already deleted the prior thread.

Do what you want, but I am not much of an advocate for deleting posts (or even editing long posts, if you had not noticed)..

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If those are issued in the US then that answers it, US cards are always finding a way to be a pain in the ass to use in Europe.
Not really.
I know people who used US issued cards many times without an issue.

Yeah that sounds reasonable and not much different than what I was doing with Binance card.
And I would not be surprised if secret investor for bit.store cards was also someone from binance  Wink
Anyway, they found a way for this cards to work both with and without kyc, and they can't be easily banned by regulators becasue they are not directly connected with exchanges.

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Gotta say this is a nice thread lol

Those image, table and information is lit
Thanks for that

Although basically most of these card don't support in my country lul
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Please list cashback percentage offered for each Debit Card (if offered).

For example, Crypto.com offers 1% cashback on all purchases currently.
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If you ever do add cashback also please mention how that cashback works!
Cause for Wirex the cashback is in WRX tokens and you can't exchange those for fiat unless you have some 300$ worth of it so you must be spending 30 000 at lower levels to get any kind of cash actually back!

So if you plan to ever add better only add it to the ones that offer one that can be immediately spent under no further conditions.

If those are issued in the US then that answers it, US cards are always finding a way to be a pain in the ass to use in Europe.
Not really.
I know people who used US issued cards many times without an issue.

Of course there are cards that work with no issue, and there are the rest.
Wait till an american tourist shows up with an AMEX with no pin number and no chip and your terminal refuses the transaction since it's over the 30 euros sum. I've done my second year internship at the desk of a major airliner, the guys there were doing rock-paper-scissor games for the next american coming with a ticket problem.  Wink

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Most cards that are supposedly available worldwide in OPs list are only available to EU residents.
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Most cards that are supposedly available worldwide in OPs list are only available to EU residents.

Yeah, I haven't gotten around to updating the supported countries on most of these cards yet.

I'm planning to make a new format where I show a table with major regions i.e. USA, UK, EU, APAC, and so on, and there's just going to be a check the card mark or an X depending on whether the card is supported in that region or not.

I think that approach is better since the information for that is currently scattered across the websites.

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Most cards that are supposedly available worldwide in OPs list are only available to EU residents.

Yeah, I haven't gotten around to updating the supported countries on most of these cards yet.

I'm planning to make a new format where I show a table with major regions i.e. USA, UK, EU, APAC, and so on, and there's just going to be a check the card mark or an X depending on whether the card is supported in that region or not.

I think that approach is better since the information for that is currently scattered across the websites.


I am visiting this forum only for this crypto card's topic.  Grin  One the best collection, splendid work. Waiting for you to update Smiley

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SafePal made a partnership with Fiat24 and is now offering virtual cards[1]. As you would expect from anything coming from Binance, the card requires KYC and it will be available to Europeans only at first.

[1] https://www.coindesk.com/business/2024/03/07/crypto-wallet-safepal-ventures-into-banking-with-new-usdc-visa-card/

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SafePal made a partnership with Fiat24 and is now offering virtual cards[1]. As you would expect from anything coming from Binance, the card requires KYC and it will be available to Europeans only at first.

[1] https://www.coindesk.com/business/2024/03/07/crypto-wallet-safepal-ventures-into-banking-with-new-usdc-visa-card/

It is very complicated in Europe to have Visa cards without KYC. However, this model of the card being linked directly to the wallet is not interesting. What remains is to know the levels of security you will have.

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SafePal made a partnership with Fiat24 and is now offering virtual cards[1]. As you would expect from anything coming from Binance, the card requires KYC and it will be available to Europeans only at first.
They are advertising this service as ''bank'' on Safepal website, and you can only apply and use the card with safepal app Roll Eyes
In general I would never connect hardware wallet with fiat payment cards, that would probably make all coins in wallet connected with personal identity and real life addresses.
Another strange decision is to support only USDC stablecoin, and I am not sure they have the lowest fees like they claim.


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I'm going to hold back at adding Safepal to the list until I get a chance to analyze it, but meanwhile I did add the PayWithUs card. It's a reloadable virtual card so a bit different from most of the others here, which are physical. They kindly allowed me a test balance of $10 for trying the card, and here are the places I've got it working on:

- Internet Archive (a donation)
- AWS - they actually made two verification charges of $0 before actually applying the charge.
- the Tor Project (another donation)
- <that's it. To be honest, I'm having a hard time finding sites that I'd want to spend $1 or $2 on.>

The card cannot be used with Paypal.

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March 10, 2024, 08:38:51 AM
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- <that's it. To be honest, I'm having a hard time finding sites that I'd want to spend $1 or $2 on.>

Try buying something on Amazon. (Well, maybe it's only viable if you have Prime.) But, I think this would be an excellent testing platform.

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I'm going to hold back at adding Safepal to the list until I get a chance to analyze it, but meanwhile I did add the PayWithUs card. It's a reloadable virtual card so a bit different from most of the others here, which are physical. They kindly allowed me a test balance of $10 for trying the card, and here are the places I've got it working on:
You should add information that this card is only Virtual, but seriously why adding them in first place on the top of the list?!  Tongue
And why not adding all the other virtual cards that are available for much longer than paywithus, they also have much lower fees and/or better terms?

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March 14, 2024, 08:28:42 AM
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You should add information that this card is only Virtual, but seriously why adding them in first place on the top of the list?!  Tongue

There is no special preference, I actually add every new card at the top so that I don't have to scroll all the way down the page to do a Ctrl-C / Ctrl-V.

Regarding the Virtual designation, yeah I've been thinking about where to put that.

And why not adding all the other virtual cards that are available for much longer than paywithus, they also have much lower fees and/or better terms?

I've been working on that too. It's just that I've got some urgent things to take care of regarding BitMixList.

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I just received the invitation to participate in the Bitrefill card. As expected, KYC is required. I haven't done it yet, I don't have much time to analyze everything calmly. But maybe I'll sign up.

As soon as I have any more news, I will share it with you.  Wink

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I just received the invitation to participate in the Bitrefill card. As expected, KYC is required. I haven't done it yet, I don't have much time to analyze everything calmly. But maybe I'll sign up.
Did you signed up on their newsletter for new virtual card?
I see they are saying only ID document is needed to sign up for this card Starter tier, that means maybe they are not going to ask for additional images of your face holding the iD.
On this card you have a lifetime deposit limit up to 15,000 EUR, and 7,500 EUR Monthly/Daily spend limits, with only 200 EUR available for single Contactless payment.
With higher Plus level you need additional verification of identity and address, but you will get higher limits.
https://www.bitrefill.com/card/pricing

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I just received the invitation to participate in the Bitrefill card. As expected, KYC is required. I haven't done it yet, I don't have much time to analyze everything calmly. But maybe I'll sign up.
Did you signed up on their newsletter for new virtual card?
I see they are saying only ID document is needed to sign up for this card Starter tier, that means maybe they are not going to ask for additional images of your face holding the iD.
On this card you have a lifetime deposit limit up to 15,000 EUR, and 7,500 EUR Monthly/Daily spend limits, with only 200 EUR available for single Contactless payment.
With higher Plus level you need additional verification of identity and address, but you will get higher limits.
https://www.bitrefill.com/card/pricing

Yes, I applied to the waiting list, to get in before the launch. And I now received the email to register.
I only progressed to the moment when he asked me for a copy of my country's passport or citizen ID. Which was expected. I didn't go any further to see if they asked for anything else. But, I'll sign up, and then I'll share the steps.

As for limits, for me they are more than enough. Therefore, I will not do checks for higher levels. For me the most important thing is the rates, if they are really as indicated, it is an excellent card compared to what currently exists on the market.


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I have already completed the Bitrefill card activation process. What is requested is a copy of the passport or identification ID, a photo of the face (face only, no need to hold the ID). There are then other levels of KYC authentication, if you want to increase the current limits, which are as follows:



It should also be noted that to activate the card you need to top it up, with the minimum top up always being €30.


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Another point to note is the Bitrefill exchange rate.
At the time of this post, it is €63492.60/1 BTC on Bitrefill. According to Coinmarketcap, the value is around €65k.

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EDIT:
Another point to note is the Bitrefill exchange rate.
At the time of this post, it is €63492.60/1 BTC on Bitrefill. According to Coinmarketcap, the value is around €65k.


Is this the 2% deposit rate they have on their fees page?
I'm looking at their FAQ but I don't understand, they take 2% of your deposit but you keep coins or are they automatically converted to fiat?
Has anyone used or got it functional?
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I have already completed the Bitrefill card activation process. What is requested is a copy of the passport or identification ID, a photo of the face (face only, no need to hold the ID).
Thank you for reporting back.
This is not so strict kyc, especially since they don't ask for holding of document and address verification.
Now the question is if this card can be accepted on all websites, or there are some hidden restrictions.

Another point to note is the Bitrefill exchange rate.
At the time of this post, it is €63492.60/1 BTC on Bitrefill. According to Coinmarketcap, the value is around €65k.
That sucks  Tongue
Are you sure it's € euro, and not $ dollar value?

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Is this the 2% deposit rate they have on their fees page?
I'm looking at their FAQ but I don't understand, they take 2% of your deposit but you keep coins or are they automatically converted to fiat?
Has anyone used or got it functional?

I don't know if it's that 2% or not, because it's the exchange rate that is displayed when I try to load the card.
As I haven't loaded anything yet, I don't know if the value is immediately in fiat or if it remains in crypto. But, from the way the information is presented, it seems that the change is made immediately. When I have the opportunity to test it, I'll let you know.



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Are you sure it's € euro, and not $ dollar value?

It's even in Euro!

At the time of this post:


On coinmarketcap:


Maybe it's that 2%, I don't know. Undecided

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April 01, 2024, 08:16:13 PM
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Maybe it's that 2%, I don't know. Undecided

Based on the numbers you've shown, it looks like 2.4%. It may indeed be the 2% plus a tiny diff that doesn't really matter.

When I have the opportunity to test it, I'll let you know.

I guess that the second top up will actually give the correct info.

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I guess that the second top up will actually give the correct info.

At least you can see that the exchange rate issue is in real time. Since if I leave the page open, the value will be updated.

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https://www.solcard.cc/

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- I topped up my balance and paid for premium telegram using it.

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Maybe it's that 2%, I don't know. Undecided
Difference is over 2% but they probably added other fees, so it's possible.
This is acceptable only in case if there are no additional fees with using this card, and even than I am not so sure if it's a good deal.

First time I hear about it, but it looks to be only for solana and tokens on that blockchain.
Top up fee is 5%  Tongue

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April 02, 2024, 07:03:03 PM
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First time I hear about it, but it looks to be only for solana and tokens on that blockchain.
Top up fee is 5%  Tongue


Minimum deposit 0.5 SOL  Undecided

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April 02, 2024, 07:03:40 PM
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Maybe it's that 2%, I don't know. Undecided
Difference is over 2% but they probably added other fees, so it's possible.
This is acceptable only in case if there are no additional fees with using this card, and even than I am not so sure if it's a good deal.

I will try it soon, and then I will share the experience. We will see if there are more hidden fees, or just this exchange rate difference.

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April 04, 2024, 08:11:56 AM
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First time I hear about it, but it looks to be only for solana and tokens on that blockchain.
Top up fee is 5%  Tongue


Minimum deposit 0.5 SOL  Undecided

Which is not really a problem as deposit minimums closer to $100 are becoming commonplace I think.

However, I do not know about the fees of Solana itself. USDT and USDC are immediately ruled out as payment methods for me, because Ethereum has ridiculous gas fees that have costed me live money before. I am hoping that Solana blockchain has a much lower and more reasonable fee for transactions.

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April 04, 2024, 01:04:19 PM
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USDT and USDC are immediately ruled out as payment methods for me, because Ethereum has ridiculous gas fees that have costed me live money before.

Use USDT over TRON trc20, it's pretty cheap, even exchanges charge only $1 for it.

And speaking of cards, has anyone tried gate card? it's only available in the EEU.
https://www.gate.io/card

Old exchange, visa card, google pay ready, cashback 1% in usdt

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Daily spending limit: 25,000 EUR
Monthly spending limit: 50,000 EUR
Annual spending limit: 250,000 EUR
Max ATM withdrawal per day: 1000 EUR
Max contactless payment per transaction: 50 EUR
Max total contactless payment: 150 EUR or 5 counts of contactless payments (before authentication is required; Click here for details about contactless payment)

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Of course mandatory KYC, you can't do a thing on that exchange without KYC.

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April 04, 2024, 11:16:43 PM
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And speaking of cards, has anyone tried gate card? it's only available in the EEU.
https://www.gate.io/card

Old exchange, visa card, google pay ready, cashback 1% in usdt

It doesn't seem like a bad card to me.

My question is: does it convert BTC only when we make the purchase (use the card) or when we add balance to the card?
Anybody know?

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OK, so I updated the information about Wirex card and it seems that they are still using VISA as their card issuer according to this blog post: https://wirexapp.com/blog/post/weve-signed-a-long-term-global-strategic-partnership-with-visa-0720

Fees have also changed, but the list of supported countries is mostly the same.

Annoyingly, it was very hard finding any useful information about this card on their website.

I was unsure on "what's real" because I am not using their card much, but I can come now with updates on Wirex.
I've received past week my replacement card, since the previous one has expired.
Both the previous card and the new/current card are Mastercard.

The production cost is 0$, but the delivery costs at least 5 EUR.
Service fee is 0, but they usually have quite a spread at their exchange.
The official list of fees is https://wirexapp.com/help/article/wirex-fees-1379


PS. I don't know if my new card works good or not, most of last year it didn't and now I try to avoid spending bitcoin for a bit longer.

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