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[tempuser364]

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Can you disclose the BIN for this card?

I honestly have no idea and I don't really care. So far I haven't had any problems with any transactions, and like most virtual cards, this one was issued in HK. Some people from the US have reported problems with paying on some US based sites, but this is because they reject cards issued in HK.

Well if you have the card, can you just give the first 6-8 numbers ?

It will provide a lot of useful information. If it's a debit, credit or prepaid card and who and where it's issued.

[alani123]

Be aware that anything relating to card transactions is not private by any means.

This is from the TOS of goblin cards:


And even if the cards provider has no such terms, then also visa and MasterCard impose such limitations.
Even if you don't get caught by this data collection that effectively makes these cards non anonymous,
Then also they're electronic payment mediums that are always tied to the same number and your history can be traced with more physical methods such as looking at your face through a camera.

Long story short, don't fall for the marketing.
The prepaid MasterCard sold on supermarkets is cheaper, more anonymous and even more convenient than these shits.
Generally though it's better to go with cash and avoid any and all visa/MC products.

[OmegaStarScream]

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I definitely do see the concern here but I doubt anyone would care, as long as their personal identity cannot be linked (directly) with those transactions. The use of VPNs, and a phone number that's not linked to one's identity should cover most of the potential risks here I would imagine.

And another thing: I think one should always assume that these information are being collected whether the provider mentions them or not.

[alani123]

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I definitely do see the concern here but I doubt anyone would care, as long as their personal identity cannot be linked (directly) with those transactions. The use of VPNs, and a phone number that's not linked to one's identity should cover most of the potential risks here I would imagine.

And another thing: I think one should always assume that these information are being collected whether the provider mentions them or not.

If you order a physical card, how can it NOT be linked to your physical identity?
The provider will share your home address the same way the central bank would.

The moment a financial provider doesn't follow a single information request they risk shut downs and losing their customer base. It's not a hill worth dying on for them.

Edit just to add: I agree most people won't care but maybe they should. Just spreading the word to say my point is these insane fees on "anonymous" cards probably aren't worth it.

[Lucius]

Well if you have the card, can you just give the first 6-8 numbers ?

It will provide a lot of useful information. If it's a debit, credit or prepaid card and who and where it's issued.

Yes, of course, I will share with you my address and anything else you are interested in

I already wrote to you that the card was issued in Hong Kong, like most similar virtual cards these days. If you want more details, you have two options - the first is to ask the admin in the group (Telegram), or to buy a card and check it first hand.

[rat03gopoh]

If you order a physical card, how can it NOT be linked to your physical identity?
The provider will share your home address the same way the central bank would.

I've never used a crypto-specific Visa or MC cards ordered online.
However, I'm curious at what point a service would require physical identification if they were offering a privacy/non-KYC card. After reading about Goblin, they only require a crypto deposit, which then automatically reflects the real-time balance in fiat.

[alani123]

If you order a physical card, how can it NOT be linked to your physical identity?
The provider will share your home address the same way the central bank would.

I've never used a crypto-specific Visa or MC cards ordered online.
However, I'm curious at what point a service would require physical identification if they were offering a privacy/non-KYC card. After reading about Goblin, they only require a crypto deposit, which then automatically reflects the real-time balance in fiat.

Since the card is delivered to your address, authorities can just email goblin to have that information.

If in a certain country goblin cards start being used in any noticeable way I'm sure authorities will likely make that inquiry. And why would goblin refuse to answer and risk their business. With the address a card was sent to it's easier to identify each holder of a card behind the transactions. You only need to be identified once. Afterwards the same card is linked to you jn perpetuity. So this can also be done by getting shipping records if you shop from remote merchants.

[tempuser364]

Well if you have the card, can you just give the first 6-8 numbers ?

It will provide a lot of useful information. If it's a debit, credit or prepaid card and who and where it's issued.

Yes, of course, I will share with you my address and anything else you are interested in

I already wrote to you that the card was issued in Hong Kong, like most similar virtual cards these days. If you want more details, you have two options - the first is to ask the admin in the group (Telegram), or to buy a card and check it first hand.

The 6-8 first numbers of a card is known as BIN. Don't really understand why you won't share it with the community here, it's not private at all and is somethng totally different than your address.. Kind of odd.
Could you go to https://www.bincodes.com/bin-checker/ , type it in, and copypaste the result here?

[OmegaStarScream]

Since the card is delivered to your address, authorities can just email goblin to have that information.

If in a certain country goblin cards start being used in any noticeable way I'm sure authorities will likely make that inquiry. And why would goblin refuse to answer and risk their business. With the address a card was sent to it's easier to identify each holder of a card behind the transactions. You only need to be identified once. Afterwards the same card is linked to you jn perpetuity. So this can also be done by getting shipping records if you shop from remote merchants.

I would imagine that someone who would go for such an expensive card, would not find a problem in paying a package forwarding company to hide his tracks even further but that would be against the card provider itself, not law enforcement who are targetting 1 specific user since package forwarders would have your real address.

[alani123]

I'll concede that there are some niche use cases where the thin veil of privacy offered by these cards might be worth it over other solutions but they're still pretty expensive and still risky.

So people not knowing what they're doing should look up information other than the marketing alone when making a purchase and/or choosing to pay these high fees.

[rat03gopoh]

Since the card is delivered to your address, authorities can just email goblin to have that information.

If in a certain country goblin cards start being used in any noticeable way I'm sure authorities will likely make that inquiry. And why would goblin refuse to answer and risk their business. With the address a card was sent to it's easier to identify each holder of a card behind the transactions. You only need to be identified once. Afterwards the same card is linked to you jn perpetuity. So this can also be done by getting shipping records if you shop from remote merchants.

The destination address doesn't fully reveal physical identities, does it? After all, they explicitly list the information they can gather, so I don't believe they would compromise the trust of their users (let's say hundreds if they're popular enough) by sending information outside of their terms though I don't want to be naive, as they also state on the same page: "no electronic transmission or storage method is 100% secure, and we cannot guarantee absolute security."