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One thing to remember when dealing with strangers over the internet especially when you're desperate on the issues you're facing, is never to share any of your financial information like keys, password, and anything that's confidential.
A stranger who sends you a personal message first is a flag and you have to be more careful with any chat with that stranger. Be very careful with links, documents, files sent to you by any stranger. They can be phishing links, malicious files. Prevention by avoid clicking on links, not download those files is best. If a stranger asks for sensitive information: personal documents, information, account passwords, seed phrases, private keys, money. You have to refuse to do it, ignore and block that stranger as soon as possible.
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November 13, 2023, 02:40:31 AM |
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I saw something on Quora that worried me. Someone said that he lost 1200 BTC to scammers. Then, I saw some people sharing/claiming to be experts in recovering lost bitcoin. They shared their contact details like Telegram IDs and WhatsApp numbers. I have a suspicion that the person who lost the BTC might be the same one giving out those contact details or advices. They could be trying to trick others in the future who search for help online. Google might suggest similar questions on Quora, and people could end up sharing their private keys with scammers. So, if you are new to all this, be careful. Don't trust random people claiming to be experts on Quora or anywhere else. They might just be trying to get your private information. This question: https://www.quora.com/I-just-lost-1200-BTC-to-scammers-now-How-can-I-recover-my-BTC-backscroll to see more answers like these. That's a common style of scammers , we have seen that here in bitcointalk though different claims but almost same approach that OP will create a thread and His SHill accounts and pretending to be different person so the tactics are the same as how you explain this and yes I never gonna fall from those. I don't really understand how people can trust random people on forums to contact them on WhatsApp or Telegram. But sadly it's still happening. I suppose internet security should be taught at schools at least. I don't really know how to teach older people about that.
You cannot deny from people that has desperate mind to fall from this, specially when you find no place to claim your funds and you are crying for help and yes there was these random people offering you subjective help? I think it will be the perfect target from them .
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November 13, 2023, 02:46:59 AM |
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First of all, the question itself is suspicious. Why? Because there is no context on how the creator of the question lost his bitcoin, I think the intention of the post or question is to promote something. Just like the OP said, he sees a lot of answers that give Telegram groups or other platform groups that say they can recover a lost bitcoin, which is a bit suspicious. How can they recover the bitcoin without the concept of how it was lost to begin with? And I'm sure those groups will not do that for free, so they will charge for their service, but what if it's also part of their plan?
I don't want to judge, but the question itself is lacking in information. At least provide a context on how the bitcoin is gone. Anyway, that's right, don't just click and join other groups on other platforms; it can be malware or a trap, so better be careful. For instance, if you really lost your bitcoin without an idea of how it happens, then create a report to the platform where your bitcoin is stored. If you lost your bitcoin because of your doings, like sending it to the wrong address, then it's entirely your fault, and as you know, bitcoin transactions are irreversible.
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November 13, 2023, 04:03:28 AM |
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I saw something on Quora that worried me. Someone said that he lost 1200 BTC to scammers. Then, I saw some people sharing/claiming to be experts in recovering lost bitcoin. They shared their contact details like Telegram IDs and WhatsApp numbers.
I have a suspicion that the person who lost the BTC might be the same one giving out those contact details or advices. They could be trying to trick others in the future who search for help online. Google might suggest similar questions on Quora, and people could end up sharing their private keys with scammers.
So, if you are new to all this, be careful. Don't trust random people claiming to be experts on Quora or anywhere else. They might just be trying to get your private information.
Online information should not be taken at all about things that involve the risk of your assets being stolen. The second most important thing is that you should never give your private keys to any unknown person, but you should not give your information to anyone except yourself. Scammers also provide fake websites on Google, which are often easy for newbies to fall into. Newbies should always seek help from someone close to them instead of online help, so that they don't face scams. Anyway you have provided good information and newbies should always try to keep their assets safe by following such information, because of lack of experience, often new people face more such problems.
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November 13, 2023, 04:20:51 AM |
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Something similar happens on YouTube too, here you will come across comments saying, I made this much money listening to this financial experts and there will be details to contact them.
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November 13, 2023, 04:22:27 AM |
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The growing number of such scams is disturbing yet unsurprising. Bitcoin's decentralization empowers but also allows exploitation. Scammers thrive because no central authority can intervene or reverse transactions. The situation you described - a supposed victim offering help with recovery -sounds like a classic scam set-up. They exploit victimized people's desperation and hope. The deceitful cycle traps innocent people into more losses. Quora is not a platform for legitimate recovery services. They're regulated, transparent, and don’t solicit via private messages. Would someone turn to Quora if they lost 1200 BTC? Unlikely. Its a pretend problem to inspire empathy and trust. Avoid informal experts who ask for secret keys or information. When in doubt, consult credible sources. In the crypto world, skepticism is your ally.
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November 13, 2023, 05:09:49 AM |
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Exactly OP , you are 100% right, there is no way to recover these coins. Any individual who claiming that he will recover the lost fund are using this trick to hack others. They using this trick in a way that intermediate level users may also become victim. Newbie should be very careful in Crypto field.
I also experienced this type of issue when my multi chain wallet hacked and hacker used auto bot for sending automatic fee token(Eth and bnb). I searched google for this solution because some token worth 120$ was available in my wallet. I found some videos where Youtuber claimed that he can recovered and given telegram contact in the description. I contacted there and he ask for pre fund. I requested many times that I will gives when he success but he was not agreeing. That time I was newbie but luckily I didn't send payment and later I know that it is just game. if they can recover then why they will not send tokens to own wallet after recovering.
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November 13, 2023, 08:22:54 AM |
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It's true that don't easily trust unknown people who claim to be experts, because there have been many cases where victims gave their personal information and in the end they lost even more. So, if you encounter a problem, it's best to ask someone who understands better, for example someone close to you or someone who understands cryptocurrency directly or through forums. Don't immediately look for a solution by contacting someone who claims to be an expert because they are just a scammer.
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November 13, 2023, 10:30:36 AM |
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This scenario reminds me of telegram channels. They would add you without your knowledge and there would be scripted chats on the channel using bots. The scenario would be most related to how the admin helped them as in the bots in making good amount of Bitcoin through an investment of $100.
They always use the same method and but the scenario changes in different scams. Here they used a recovery service which is practically impossible to do.
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November 13, 2023, 11:23:36 AM |
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One thing to remember when dealing with strangers over the internet especially when you're desperate on the issues you're facing, is never to share any of your financial information like keys, password, and anything that's confidential.
A stranger who sends you a personal message first is a flag and you have to be more careful with any chat with that stranger. Be very careful with links, documents, files sent to you by any stranger. They can be phishing links, malicious files. Prevention by avoid clicking on links, not download those files is best. If a stranger asks for sensitive information: personal documents, information, account passwords, seed phrases, private keys, money. You have to refuse to do it, ignore and block that stranger as soon as possible. Think simply, no one is nice and kind enough to spend time online looking for ways to help people without receiving any benefits. There's no such thing as a free lunch, so it's best to never waste time with strangers online. If we have a problem and don't know what to do, we should seek help from a reputable organization or an expert in that field. Don't seek help from strangers and think that someone will be willing to help for free. In particular, spaces like the internet are many times more fraudulent than the real world.
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November 13, 2023, 11:28:03 AM |
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Good advice and thanks for sharing, there are creepy people online this days pretending to be a victim of scam and they will lie about getting their justice back by offering people names and details on the social media and if you are once a victim you will likely the a second victim to scam too.
The truth can be very bitter with crypto if you don't know how to do your own research before making a step, once you lost your Bitcoin one way or the other its never going to get recovered, if you like hire the best computer gurus there is no way to get it back.
Forget the lost BTC and learn from your mistake, finding ways to recover what you're lost will expose you to new threats, and buckle up you will lose more money than you've lost before, they have done it before and they will keep doing it to innocent people that don't know how to do their own research.
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November 13, 2023, 11:35:59 AM |
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This scenario reminds me of telegram channels. They would add you without your knowledge and there would be scripted chats on the channel using bots. The scenario would be most related to how the admin helped them as in the bots in making good amount of Bitcoin through an investment of $100.
They always use the same method and but the scenario changes in different scams. Here they used a recovery service which is practically impossible to do.
Yes, it's a natural scene in telegram channels that's why I don't usually use telegram, only if needed. A stranger just suddenly offers free money, services, investments, tutorials on how to make money in trading/mining, and such then requires you to send them money. There are also personal messages you can receive from a stranger offering assistance, requiring you to click a certain link and provide the information they need. This is something that should be disregarded by everyone. It's clearly a scam and no one is nice enough to offer money to anyone without anything in return.
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November 13, 2023, 11:41:05 AM |
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1200 BTC is 44 million dollars. I highly doubt that someone, who lost 44 million dollars would use Quora to ask questions about how to recover them. My advise to newcomers is to always stay cautious, don't trust anyone and do your own research. If you ever lose a big amount of crypto, just call the police and get a lawyer. Don't trust "crypto experts", which you have found over the internet. If would be nice if OP shares the Telegram and Whatsapp details of those scammers. We could use this info for scambaiting purposes.
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November 13, 2023, 11:52:58 AM |
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the post on quora seems fishy, I wouldn't be surprised if even the title is fake, 1200 really a lot.
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November 13, 2023, 12:00:57 PM |
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I don't really understand how people can trust random people on forums to contact them on WhatsApp or Telegram. But sadly it's still happening. I suppose internet security should be taught at schools at least. I don't really know how to teach older people about that.
If you think about it, it's not only about bitcoin: how many people send money to strangers after a phone call because they actually believe whatever lie they've been told? Or people meeting other people online, they never meet in real life, and yet they send money over money to some stranger. Oftentimes the people involved could be old, naive, alone, many different life situations that bring them do to something that other people would never do.
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November 13, 2023, 12:08:43 PM |
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I saw something on Quora that worried me. Someone said that he lost 1200 BTC to scammers. Then, I saw some people sharing/claiming to be experts in recovering lost bitcoin. They shared their contact details like Telegram IDs and WhatsApp numbers.
I have a suspicion that the person who lost the BTC might be the same one giving out those contact details or advices. They could be trying to trick others in the future who search for help online. Google might suggest similar questions on Quora, and people could end up sharing their private keys with scammers.
So, if you are new to all this, be careful. Don't trust random people claiming to be experts on Quora or anywhere else. They might just be trying to get your private information.
Don’t be surprised that the person who claims to have lost bitcoin is also part of the scammer’s team, it’s just a strategy to defraud people. They know a lot of people have lost their bitcoin, and when newbies see things like this, they will be very desperate to get their bitcoin back, but they don’t know that in the process of trying to recover your lost bitcoin, you will end up losing more money. Scammers might ask you to send some certain amount of money before they will be able to track the bitcoin, and immediately you send them the money, then they will be blocking you instantly. After making the first payment, some might still be giving excuses just to get more money from you before they finally decide to block you when they notice that you are no longer giving them anything. You will lose your bitcoin, and you will lose the money you sent for them to help you get back your bitcoin. We all should have it in mind that bitcoin sent can’t be recovered if your transaction have been confirmed. If the bitcoin was sent to an exchange, the best thing you can do is report the wallet address on the exchange where the bitcoin was sent, but if it’s not sent to an exchange, I don’t think you can do anything about it. You shouldn’t allow scammers to scam you, don’t add to your loss.
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This is the reason why people who know nothing about btc or cryptocurrency in general gets the idea that this is all but a scam but it’s just recklessness that gets people to this point
WhatsApp is also an app where scammers are abundant and especially in Quora
remember that bitcoin is decentralized there’s absolutely no reason for you to share any information about your wallet to anyone else let’s all be responsible holders of btc and be responsible in taking information from the internet as well
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Texac
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November 13, 2023, 12:25:00 PM |
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1200 BTC is 44 million dollars. I highly doubt that someone, who lost 44 million dollars would use Quora to ask questions about how to recover them. My advise to newcomers is to always stay cautious, don't trust anyone and do your own research. If you ever lose a big amount of crypto, just call the police and get a lawyer. Don't trust "crypto experts", which you have found over the internet. If would be nice if OP shares the Telegram and Whatsapp details of those scammers. We could use this info for scambaiting purposes. But to attract people's attention, scammers will always find ways to highlight their themes and stories. And losing 1200BTC will really get people's attention, but the story will be even more compelling when there is an account claiming to be an expert and can help them get those bitcoins back. It can be seen that scammers' tricks are becoming increasingly sophisticated and newbies can easily fall into this trap. This is an interesting topic and a wake-up call for newbies.
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Mate2237
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November 13, 2023, 12:36:30 PM |
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The thread would have best suited in beginners & Help because newcomers are more in that section. Then let come to the content. Op what you have said is very correct. This is how internet scammers do to scam people. Sometimes there many in the room so as one person call or drop and others also drop different information nd recommendation and those who don't know anything will call the contact thinking that the person they contact is a good person. And if you call one person in that place they will give the phone to one another making the thing more real.
This kind scam is not a new thing to me, I know their tactics so it will be hard for them to scam me. One thing is that if you are not greedy to be rich over night then it will be hard for them to scam.
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naira
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November 13, 2023, 12:52:41 PM |
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This case of course makes the person feel hopeless so that when he is offered the answer to his problem he thinks it is help even though in reality it is not. I agree with you that these scammers try to exploit deeper to get their victims trapped in the hole of their game. Any offer would be useless because the Bitcoins he holds are pure and only he can control them. if you lose access, it means risk and don't involve other people to help you. Bottom line, don't trust anyone who tries to access your Bitcoins, even if the goal is for recovery, etc.
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