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November 13, 2023, 08:27:41 PM
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Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!
In my opinion, there is nothing excessive about the actions of this young man's family. Maybe they think that is the best way, even though according to other people there are still many subtle ways including involving the law, but most likely it is the best way in their opinion and for the good of one of their family members. And they also don't want the young man to lose all his possessions with nothing left, even his life if the family doesn't act according to what they think is right.
What we need to know is that there are still many people who commit unreasonable actions for the sake of their loved ones because they think it is the best thing they have ever thought and planned.

And I will share it with the people I care about even if they forbid or oppose my gambling activities, because I can't enjoy what I enjoy if my family doesn't enjoy it too.
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November 13, 2023, 08:59:54 PM
Last edit: November 13, 2023, 09:11:16 PM by Finestream
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It's normal for your loved ones to give extreme care most especially that they are your family. They knows what's good and bad for you. And if it means threatening the casinos so they won't let you gamble on their shops, then they will surely do it without hesitation so they can protect you from the danger that this gambling addiction may cause. That's what a family can do even if you see it they have gone too extreme just to protect yourself.

Now if you become lucky and made life changing profits with gambling, are you still supposed to help them? Of course, yes! At the end of the day, the rest of your friends will leave you most especially when you have no money anymore, but your family will stick by your side regardless if you have nothing to give to them. So prioritize helping your family above other people.

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November 13, 2023, 09:03:26 PM
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Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

I think the family has the right to help their members to recover from gambling addiction.  They have the right to request gambling establishment to ban their addicted gambler member in entering their premise.  I do not think that there is any extreme measure in protecting a family member especially when that person is already addicted in gambling.

The action of the family can be said legal depending on the country's law but mostly if there is a request and yet the owner of the casino continuously disregard the request of the family, the family can file a case against that casino but the success of the case is still dependent on the factors and evidences.

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

Why not?  It is already given that if we love our family, we should share any blessings or profit we get.  Whether they are against my gambling activities or not should not even be the case to forbid us from sharing.
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November 13, 2023, 09:03:56 PM
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Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!
In my opinion, there is nothing excessive about the actions of this young man's family. Maybe they think that is the best way, even though according to other people there are still many subtle ways including involving the law, but most likely it is the best way in their opinion and for the good of one of their family members. And they also don't want the young man to lose all his possessions with nothing left, even his life if the family doesn't act according to what they think is right.
What we need to know is that there are still many people who commit unreasonable actions for the sake of their loved ones because they think it is the best thing they have ever thought and planned.

And I will share it with the people I care about even if they forbid or oppose my gambling activities, because I can't enjoy what I enjoy if my family doesn't enjoy it too.
Family knows best and it would really be just that right that they would really be doing things no matter how far the extent it would be as long they could be able to help one of their members specially that gambling addiction is a problem on which it cant really be that easily be resolved out once it would shackled you on. This is why it would really be that not a right thing for you to get mad
if you are in the shoes of that particular boy which is on legal age already and tends to gamble. If you dont really make out those kind of behavior in the first place then
your family wont really be that ending up with that kind of approach on which you would really be that be still free and not restricted as of this moment but since they've seen
different then it is really just that a normal act to be done by them.

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November 13, 2023, 09:25:26 PM
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During the weekend I was listening to an evening programme from one our the local radio stations they were discussing about gambling, the effects and how to manage it if you might be struggling with  addiction. And they had listeners calling in to share personal experiences or of a loved one that gambles and amidst many callers there was this very caller story that caught my interest and curiosity.

She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

Now, while I was quietly listening to the story in my head I began to ask myself several possible  questions and one of such questions was; is it not possible that this young man can take a cab away from their location and move to a far area to carry out his gambling since his a compulsive gambler.

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!
Even if the families of the young man did what they did just to stop the man from gambling, then I would say they are trying to help the man, since the gambler can not control himself from gambling, even to the extent of selling their properties to gamble. That means the man had gone too far in terms of gambling, so if the family of the so-called gambler did not do anything about it, then they are endangering their lives because a day might come when the gambler will go outside his area to steal and come back, then gamble with the money.
The family didn't do anything bad, even though they went too far in it. They were trying to protect themselves and their brother, who's an addicted gambler.
However, there has been a topic that quote A Nigerian Father Rejects Son's Gambling Win, so it is not the first and this can not be the last of it.

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November 13, 2023, 09:50:48 PM
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The family went to some certain extent to help their ward, but that won't be so effective, even if they published his face on famous TV shows. He'd find his way to gamble in a more private manner. Your number 2 question, OP, determines the reaction of the player when in possession of huge amount of money. If he loves his family, nothing stops him from showing them love after making it big in gambling. Especially to teach them that gambling can be good in yielding wealth. But, the reaction of his family isn't conducive by any way because it won't help the player to stop being a compulsive gambler. They're multiple ways of building relation with a friend or brother who is following the wrong route in gambling. They need to create an internal emotional relationship with him, thereby discussing with him about his difficulties and why he's chosen to be such a gambler with little or no regards to the bad effects it brings to his family. Better still refer him to a therapist, that will keep him busy by interacting with him. Embarrassing him in such a way isn't helpful. To me it's embarrassing to publish his pictures all over the neighborhood. This could cause him to be depressed. Friends and colleagues laughing and making mockery of him and the family. I think this will not only affect the boy, but the family members too. Gambling addiction can't be stopped forcefully. Suing the shop owners will only cause them to waste more money; similar to the player using it to gamble. In a nutshell, I don't buy such an embarrassing idea.

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November 13, 2023, 09:51:45 PM
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Even if the families of the young man did what they did just to stop the man from gambling, then I would say they are trying to help the man, since the gambler can not control himself from gambling, even to the extent of selling their properties to gamble. That means the man had gone too far in terms of gambling, so if the family of the so-called gambler did not do anything about it, then they are endangering their lives because a day might come when the gambler will go outside his area to steal and come back, then gamble with the money.
The family didn't do anything bad, even though they went too far in it. They were trying to protect themselves and their brother, who's an addicted gambler.
However, there has been a topic that quote A Nigerian Father Rejects Son's Gambling Win, so it is not the first and this can not be the last of it.
Very normal thing for a family to do such measures and i agree on some post above that they dont really care on what are the steps or things that they'll be doing as long they could help out one of their members.
Family might not be perfect but we do know on whats the best for us, gambling isnt bad but on the time that they've been seeing that you are really that getting addicted too much because they've obviously see you
that become impulsive into your actions like selling your possession or things just for the sake of gambling then this is a solid indicative sign that you are really that addicted to it.

It might really be that looking too much for some people but for me it is really just that right. Doing things for the sake of someones safety or trying out to stop on whats the worst things could happen
will be always be the wise thing to be done in the first place. I wont really be feeling bad about it if i were that boy who had been addicted, you would really be able to
appreciate on what are the things that they've been doing just for your own sake and safety or trying out to avoid the worst things as possible.

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November 13, 2023, 09:59:47 PM
Last edit: November 13, 2023, 11:09:50 PM by Sandra_hakeem
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Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
no... Your family may be too compassionate about you and actions like that could prove how much they feel to make you have a good life and most importantly, be successful. No parent would wanna see Thier child squander his funds on gambling excessively - whatever happens, his case is beyond parental control; he needs a therapist..
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2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
I'm not the man and I can't gamble to that level for any reason... I don't even think he'll be that lucky to win such an amount as well.

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November 13, 2023, 10:22:26 PM
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Just two Cheesy questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

No, they are right; they don't have a choice but to escalate things. Even if it's harsh or extreme, they have the right to do that. Well, based on your statement, the brother's gambling habit affects them, not just the gambler but the whole family, so of course they need to take action, even if they have to be extreme or whatever. In fact, if they want their brother to stop excessive gambling, then they can force him to go to a rehabilitation centre, even if by force. Yes, it's a bit forceful, but if you want to help a gambler in that state, if he can't be helped with a good way of stopping, then the next option is by force.

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
This question will depend on the person who is answering; there is no right or wrong answer, but for me, of course yes. Why? Because they get affected by my excessive gambling, it mentioned that if he sells their property, then, of course, I will pay them back, but I thought that some gamblers who are too addicted would share their big hit; they might gamble it again, being greedy to earn much more. Like I said, there's no right or wrong answer; it depends on the person.

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November 13, 2023, 10:38:59 PM
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This is not something we should emulate. Even though gambling is considered a bad activity and can be detrimental, this does not mean that we can stop someone from carrying out gambling activities in a bad way, because this will never solve the problem, but will only increase the problem.

And the analogy is like this, when you invite someone to treat them to food, but you invite them in the wrong way, like "Hey dog... come on, let's eat, I'll treat you" and will that person accept your offer and continue to go order food, I think no and what will happen will be a dispute, because of the person you invited. He was offended by the words you said earlier.

Likewise, asking someone to stop their bad gambling activities, if done in the wrong way, it is unlikely that the person will be able to stop their gambling activities, and in the end it will only end in disputes and mutual hatred towards each other.
However, if this method of inviting is done well, then it is very likely that the person will realize his bad actions in gambling and slowly he will voluntarily stop gambling.

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November 13, 2023, 10:47:29 PM
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I think in this part of the world,where gamblers are heavily criticised, especially those from a religious background,they find it very difficult to relate any thing that has to do with gambling with a member of their family,either brother,sister or any of their sibling.They won't try it before the information will get to their parents that they are gambling.And when this type of issue arise in the family,they take it so serious to the extent that they can even punish the child by sending him out of the family,or better still,disown that child.
Some families take this thing so seriously that you begin to immagine whatever gambling is a sin,and this is a question I need to get an answer to.Could gambling be a sin?

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November 13, 2023, 10:51:31 PM
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Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

1. I thought it was a very extreme measure and I just found out there was something like that. Maybe the person is so addicted to gambling that his family goes to extremes. I don't know if they have tried using psychiatrists or professionals to break the man's gambling addiction

2. If I were in that person's position, I would choose to share the money if my family would accept the money from gambling and choose to stop gambling because I have won millions of dollars. For me, family is number one and I don't want to lose my family just for the sake of gambling.

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November 13, 2023, 11:06:26 PM
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At first the young man should have it in mind that his family loves him and would go to any length or extent to making sure he is free from that addiction. No family would see such happening to their loved one and keep mute over it but I think the family took the wrong step in addressing the situation. Why printing his photograph and taking it right to the casinos around. It is not nice to have done such as far as he is over 18 and has the right to freedom of engagements. They took it too far and that alone can make someone abscond because they might feel threatened with that action alone but however it is not a bad idea for his family to intervene in his situation as that is what any individual who has such person in their family would do.

If it happens that he wins big time, I think nothing stops him from extending a hand of gratitude to his family because what they had done to him is just like a mother trying to protect her child from being vulnerable to attacks. So in that case, If I were to be the one in his position of winning, I will make sure I extend hand of kindness to my family.


The family's love and care are clear, but what is their plan? Not sure about it at all. Even though the person who sent his picture to casinos meant well, it was against the law, especially since he is over 18. Even though the act is meant to protect him, it actually takes away his freedom. There are good goals tangled up with actions that aren't clear.

Online gambling is appealing because it is easy to get into and gives the impression of being simple to win. It is a digital trap that is both tempting and dangerous. If he gets a lot of money, he wants to keep gambling even more, not less. Things keep going in a bad circle. Even though his family's actions aren't perfect, they are a desperate attempt to break this loop.

If he gets a lot of money, thanking his family, even though they went too far, is a sign that he understands the mess of feelings and intentions that are going on. It means admitting that love can make people do things that are more safe than useful in the messy and often wrong world of relationships. This is life: it's complicated, messy, and human.
Exaggerating kind of action i should say but its not shocking considering that family could really go into such extent if they are really that serious on trying to stop one of the members to get away with such gambling addiction. I dont know about legal actions or whatsoever in connection with it but if this one is really that something that will really be against freedom then they might be having a problem on that but as long
the other party or individual dont make out some complaints then i dont see for possible legal approaches into this one.It is really just that the actions been made is really just that too much on which coming
into a point thatthey would be needing to print up a family members face and trying out to scatter and say things accordingly.

Its true that it is really that indeed possible that he could go out into that other place and do make some gambling thing if he wanted to but he choses up to stay and do deal up with the current situation.
The family arent aware that if he cant do it physically then there's always a way that he could be able to gamble online on which it is really that more hard to be stopped.

I think he should know this that for his  family to have gone this extent, they truly love and care about him because if they do not, they would have just left him to his fate of being a chronic and addicted gambler and nobody about it but blood is thicker than water as the case maybe and for them to have gone this extent damning the consequences of above 18 freedom of association against him then he should know whats up. I was thinking this was the only means left for his family to do to scare the casinos as well because merely going there to tell the casino to stop allowing their son in there would do nothing so they had to take extra steps to threatening them class action.

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November 13, 2023, 11:11:16 PM
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2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

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I wouldn't say that because they went extra miles to make me stop gambling due to my compulsive addiction will be an excuse for me not to share my win with my family. The only thing that will make me not is, if I tell them about my win and they claim not to be cool with it, and they start feeling like it is very bad to gamble.

I will give them so that let them not see it that I was wasting my time and resources then when I was gambling, and for them to also know that gambling can make one hit it big. I believe that this will change their mindset on the way that they see gamblers. Although it is not good to me an addict, this is because if you are a gambling addict, your big wins will go back to gambling, since you will not see it as an opportunity to stop gambling.

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November 13, 2023, 11:18:15 PM
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2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

Let's not forget the fact that if I were not selling my belongings and using the money to gamble, my family would start disgracing me and calling my name out in public in order to limit my gambling habits. Their attitude might appear to be embarrassing, but they are doing all that to make sure they get me out of that life style.
 
And if, eventually, out of stubbornness, I move out of that area and go far away to gamble, and luckily, I win a big amount of money that will be enough to cover up all that I have spent—I mean, both my properties that I sold out—what I will do is buy back all those accessories first and make them see me coming back to life.
 
And if there is anything that I can help the family with, I will definitely do that. That's if they will accept to eat the money that was won from gambling; if they have nothing against it, then I can't withhold it from them. No matter what, they are my family, and the same way they were trying to bring me out of shame, I can't allow them to suffer when I have the money, no matter the means that I used in making it.

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She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.
When you say Young Man  meaning underage? if yes then it is His family's decision to what action to do just to prevent their family members be free with gambling addiction.
This may sounds harsh but it is Illegal to allow underage gamblers playing in their gambling shops.
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Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!
It is normal to think this is a harsh way but as a family is more concern about their brother and also worried about what could addiction brings to hiM?

and also I'm afraid that the young man will carry his gambling activities far more because spending money to transport in far will cut his capital to gamble and might end Him having no money to deposit.









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November 14, 2023, 02:57:32 AM
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~~~threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.


This doesn't make sense----how can a gambling shop be sued for letting people play? They're a business, and winning is essential for their profitability. They welcome anyone, regardless of whether the gambler has a problem or not. Threatening legal action against a gambling shop could have serious consequences for the addicted gambler's family. They might end up being counter-sued and have to pay damages. It seems like they don't fully grasp the situation, perhaps out of desperation.
even though it was the young man who was judged to be in the wrong and why did his family blame the casino shop for having to sue him?
they only run their business as long as it is legal in their environment, which is a bit ridiculous because the family is too confused about what to do to stop their brother's gambling activities.
even though there is another way that is not too excessive, namely taking it to a professional help center so that you can stop the gambling activity, by suing it will not solve the problem because what is certain is that the shop has more power to sue back because the law only applies if there is money, of course the casino has more power. having more money to be able to prevent the young man family from overdoing things.

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November 14, 2023, 10:15:36 AM
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Even if the families of the young man did what they did just to stop the man from gambling, then I would say they are trying to help the man, since the gambler can not control himself from gambling, even to the extent of selling their properties to gamble. That means the man had gone too far in terms of gambling, so if the family of the so-called gambler did not do anything about it, then they are endangering their lives because a day might come when the gambler will go outside his area to steal and come back, then gamble with the money.
The family didn't do anything bad, even though they went too far in it. They were trying to protect themselves and their brother, who's an addicted gambler.
However, there has been a topic that quote A Nigerian Father Rejects Son's Gambling Win, so it is not the first and this can not be the last of it.
Very normal thing for a family to do such measures and i agree on some post above that they dont really care on what are the steps or things that they'll be doing as long they could help out one of their members.
Family might not be perfect but we do know on whats the best for us, gambling isnt bad but on the time that they've been seeing that you are really that getting addicted too much because they've obviously see you
that become impulsive into your actions like selling your possession or things just for the sake of gambling then this is a solid indicative sign that you are really that addicted to it.

It might really be that looking too much for some people but for me it is really just that right. Doing things for the sake of someones safety or trying out to stop on whats the worst things could happen
will be always be the wise thing to be done in the first place. I wont really be feeling bad about it if i were that boy who had been addicted, you would really be able to
appreciate on what are the things that they've been doing just for your own sake and safety or trying out to avoid the worst things as possible.
The family intervenes, interferes, and takes severe but necessary action. Like lifeguards, you're in the deep end, unaware you're drowning. They draw you back, and it feels like an overreach, like their care consumes you. Ain't that their job? How about treating gambling like sports? Train for it, set rules, have a game plan. Risks should be low and game friendly. Imagine a family event where everyone watches out for each other to avoid falling. Would that work? Can responsible gambling be gamified?

What if you're that man who went too deep? You'd understand after seeing your mess, right? You'd observe your family's frenzied moves differently. They were battling for you awkwardly and desperately, not just nagging. Though late, appreciation will be high. And maybe, just maybe, you'll join the lifeguard squad yourself next time.

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November 14, 2023, 10:31:14 AM
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Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
Yes, the family took it very far. Imagine if the young man finally stops gambling and later sees the photo of him being used as memes on social media, also people around him could use it to mock him. Not cool if you ask me, the family would have sought for other methods and I don't think this is even effective as he can go to a very far neighborhood and gamble.

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
A life-changing sum? Most persons would be angry that their family treated them harshly and would not want to share the winning with them, which in a way is justifiable.
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Even if the families of the young man did what they did just to stop the man from gambling, then I would say they are trying to help the man, since the gambler can not control himself from gambling, even to the extent of selling their properties to gamble. That means the man had gone too far in terms of gambling, so if the family of the so-called gambler did not do anything about it, then they are endangering their lives because a day might come when the gambler will go outside his area to steal and come back, then gamble with the money.
The family didn't do anything bad, even though they went too far in it. They were trying to protect themselves and their brother, who's an addicted gambler.
However, there has been a topic that quote A Nigerian Father Rejects Son's Gambling Win, so it is not the first and this can not be the last of it.
Very normal thing for a family to do such measures and i agree on some post above that they dont really care on what are the steps or things that they'll be doing as long they could help out one of their members.
Family might not be perfect but we do know on whats the best for us, gambling isnt bad but on the time that they've been seeing that you are really that getting addicted too much because they've obviously see you
that become impulsive into your actions like selling your possession or things just for the sake of gambling then this is a solid indicative sign that you are really that addicted to it.

It might really be that looking too much for some people but for me it is really just that right. Doing things for the sake of someones safety or trying out to stop on whats the worst things could happen
will be always be the wise thing to be done in the first place. I wont really be feeling bad about it if i were that boy who had been addicted, you would really be able to
appreciate on what are the things that they've been doing just for your own sake and safety or trying out to avoid the worst things as possible.
However, I would say that everyone is not the same and I still don't believe that, as humans we are, we are meant to be the same as everyone, so what I am trying to say is that the boy might feel bad, as he's family members are trying so hard to keep them selfs and him self safe from gambling, you can't feel bad as you said and I also won't feel bad as well but the boy and other gamblers out there will feel bad if incase we were in the sane shoes of the boy.
Every family has love for themselves, but only a few don't because they might have some misunderstanding with themselves. But truth be told, if the family of the so-called gambler did not love the boy and want his success they wouldn't have gone too far to stop him from gambling. Let's just look at that side and stick to it. Although I really understand what you are saying and I agree to it.

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