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November 22, 2023, 10:17:55 PM
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1miau reminds me of that other impatient hothead Lutpin. (I'll stop short if calling it a hunch, but they do remind me of each other).




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The proof of distrusting them can be found in their trust feedback they have posted.

Same as yours and TSC's, 1miau trust feedback need to be reviewed as they are little more than post-it notes or negatives to sledge etc - not for trades.

Practice what you preach as the three of you deserve Tildas.




Conversely, anyone who is Tilda-ing Ratimov (or whatever it is he calls himself these days) is guilty of trust abuse as he (Ratimov) currently has posted no trust feedback.

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November 22, 2023, 10:22:49 PM
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Used your post mikey as reference for a tag,  let us see if there is a true Bitcoiner who is truly concerned for freedom of speech in this community to tag this virus accordingly for all the untrustworthy and shady dealings, DT manipulator, I have also called out all DT1s having him on their trust lists, 2 of them said *shut up we don't care(something like that), this is not about me or 1miau, anyone with the same mindset as him, should receive a tag and excluded from DT, let them continue their contributions
to see if they are telling the truth or they are here just to milk this community , since it's a decentralized system, right?

I am disgusted to see such parasites were allowed to exist for so long.

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November 22, 2023, 10:34:53 PM
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1miau reminds me of that other impatient hothead Lutpin. (I'll stop short if calling it a hunch, but they do remind me of each other).




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The proof of distrusting them can be found in their trust feedback they have posted.

Same as yours and TSC's, 1miau trust feedback need to be reviewed as they are little more than post-it notes or negatives to sledge etc - not for trades.

Practice what you preach as the three of you deserve Tildas.




Conversely, anyone who is Tilda-ing Ratimov (or whatever it is he calls himself these days) is guilty of trust abuse as he (Ratimov) currently has posted no trust feedback.
I'm not going to reply to you again, so rant all you want from here in out. Feel free to ~ i'm 100% ok with it. I don't control what you do with your inclusions. It's not my fault you ran yourself right out of DT, it's your own doing. The difference between me and you as far as DT goes is I don't care 1 way or the other. I do my best and I do not use it as a power trip. I will practice what I preach though and use that ignore button as I feel arguing with you is a complete waste of time.

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November 22, 2023, 10:45:26 PM
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Conversely, anyone who is Tilda-ing Ratimov (or whatever it is he calls himself these days) is guilty of trust abuse as he (Ratimov) currently has posted no trust feedback.

Bullshit. He earned his tildes with poor judgement, there is no reason to remove them, particularly since his tantrum is ongoing.

If you took all this effort that you're spending on making shit up and put it towards understanding how this forum actually works, you'd have all those things that you crave so much, all the trust doohickeys and merit thingamabobs that you can dream of.
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November 23, 2023, 01:01:59 AM
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Conversely, anyone who is Tilda-ing Ratimov (or whatever it is he calls himself these days) is guilty of trust abuse as he (Ratimov) currently has posted no trust feedback.

Bullshit. He earned his tildes with poor judgement, there is no reason to remove them, particularly since his tantrum is ongoing.

He earned the tilde for vindictive editing of his trust list. This was helped by the deletion of posts in his self-moderated threads. The next bad thing he did was delete his threads with link collections, which was once again vindictive towards all the forum members.
One wrong negative feedback that initiated the whole drama was not enough reason for me to distrust him. But all of the above, along with a very aggressive way of discussion, led to only one thing, ~

If we were to remove the tilde now because he deleted all the feedback, that would be a violation of the trust system. It would be pure blackmail, pressure with the sole purpose of removing the feedback that we believe is incorrect.
This is how I saw the whole matter.

TL, I'm really surprised that you, who only deal with things related to reputation here on the forum, don't recognize such clear things.


I apologize to mikeywith and to 1miau for this offtopic, you can continue where you left off.  Wink

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November 23, 2023, 05:44:13 AM
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What happened to 1miau? He realized things are getting heated too much, he decided to hit the road but forgot his tail. If he wasn't acting like a child, none of this was necessary. I mean if you know you are to be blamed, then why let it reach to this point? Unless you are unable to realize and differentiate between right and wrong.

Can we learn at all? Or are we destined to repeat the mistakes of our ancestors, like a repeating loop!?


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November 23, 2023, 07:04:29 AM
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You know a thread has descended into a certain kind of cesspit when suchmoon weighs in to either defend the thin skinned DT Trolls or to spread little more than flat earth style FUD against myself (either way, I wouldn't know - I ignore all users who distrust me).




Now that I'm just thinking about it... A long time ago I seem to recall that I reviewed suchmoon's trust feedbacks which were full of post-it note style vitriol of anyone their gang didn't approve of and hence they (suchmoon) deserves a Tilda along with the three mentioned in this thread. (Plus the one running a protection racket)




If suchmoon did indeed mention me in their comment above, then can somebody please flag their post as OFF TOPIC, I'd rather not have to endure reading their vomit. It's bad enough I can see their name over yonder

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Since a few proofs have been requested, I would also like to say something about this.
It is very difficult to reproduce texts taken out of context and translated by deepl.com 1:1, but let's try:

User: Blitzfontaene
Kannst du ja mal probieren, mir negativen Trust zu geben, was dann passiert. Oder hast du die Eier, dazu einen Beitrag in Meta aufzumachen, weil du dich ja im Recht siehst, dass ich dir einen "negativen Trust" gegeben hätte? Mit deinem Account hast du ja nix zu verlieren, also sind die Ausgangsbedingungen für dich sehr positiv. Aber ich vermute, dass du nicht die Eier zu hast, weil du weißt, dass du hier groben Unfug verbreitest. Es wäre zwar auch möglich, dass dein Wissen über das Trust-System so mangelhaft ist, dass du es nicht verstehst aber der Sachverhalt ist doch recht einfach, daher vermute ich eine bewusste Falschaussage mit "negativer Trust".

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You can try giving me negative trust and see what happens. Or do you have the balls to open a post in Meta about it, because you think you're right that I would have given you a "negative trust"? You have nothing to lose with your account, so the starting conditions are very positive for you. But I suspect that you don't have the balls, because you know that you're spreading nonsense here. It's also possible that your knowledge of the trust system is so poor that you don't understand it, but the facts are quite simple, so I suspect a deliberate misstatement with "negative trust".



User: thandie
Den neutralen Trust hast du dir redlich verdient, denn er ist die logische Konsequenz deines kindischen Verhaltens und unreifen Pöbelns.
Zeigt ja auch deine uneinsichtige Reaktion darauf.
Vllt hätte ich ihn entfernt, wenn du dich einsichtig gezeigt hättest aber stattdessen kommt von dir eine neuer Schwung Relativierungen und Diffamierungen zurück.
Der neutrale Trust bleibt jetzt erstmal da. Vllt kommt er irgendwann runter, vllt nicht. Liegt an dir.

Entweder du lebst mit dem neutralen Trust oder du änderst dein Verhalten. Irgendwann solltest du für deine Frechheiten Verantwortung übernehmen, denn wenn du denkst, du könntest deine kriegsverharmlosende Propaganda ohne Konsequenzen im Forum abladen, hast du dich mächtig getäuscht.

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You have truly earned the neutral trust, because it is the logical consequence of your childish behavior and immature rabble-rousing.
It also shows your lack of understanding in response.
Perhaps I would have removed it if you had shown some understanding, but instead you have returned with a new wave of relativization and defamation.
The neutral trust will stay there for now. Maybe it will come down at some point, maybe not. It's up to you.

Either you live with the neutral trust or you change your behavior. At some point you should take responsibility for your insolence, because if you think you can dump your war-harmonizing propaganda on the forum without consequences, you're very much mistaken.




User: Unknown01
Weil weißt du, wir kennen DT genau und können sehr gut einschätzen, welche Vergehen extrem verpönt sind.
Ihr habt massig verpönte Vergehen begangen, deren Vermeidung wir euch sogar per PM nahegelegt haben. Ihr habt euch drüber lustig gemacht und fröhlich weiter gegen DT-Standards gehandelt.
So einen Missbrauch und Kindergarten wird DT nicht dulden.
Wenn ihr keine Probleme haben wollt, hört doch einfach auf mit eurem Kindergarten, haltet euch an die DT-Standards, haltet euch an die Forumsregeln und hört auf, zu shitposten!

Ich werde deinen neuen Beitrag zusätzlich archivieren, damit wir bei Zeit etwas zu lachen haben.
Shitposten und den Mund so voll nehmen hat vor DT noch nie funktioniert!

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Because you know, we know DT very well and can assess very well which offenses are extremely frowned upon.
You have committed a lot of frowned upon offenses, which we even told you to avoid via PM. You made fun of it and happily continued to act against DT standards.
DT will not tolerate such abuse and kindergarten.
If you don't want to have problems, just stop your kindergarten, stick to the DT standards, stick to the forum rules and stop shitposting!

I'll also archive your new post so we have something to laugh about when the time comes.
Shitposting and running your mouth like this never worked before DT!

This thread came about shortly afterwards: Dangerous and inappropriate use of Trust: giving positive Trust for Shitposters
And further down the line, a comment from Unknown01 (the statement was not OK but not the end of the world either!) was enough to keep him going here: Self-moderated topics - nice feature or should it get banned?  

But the peak had already been reached a little earlier when it came to User: Unknown01 threatens me with a forum ban for saying my opinion.
I am only quoting this thread because the core statement that prompted it has also been addressed here:

Viel Spaß dabei!
Alles ist arrangiert, dass wir dann gleichzeitig einen Beitrag bringen werden, der deine diversen Verfehlungen in den letzen Monaten thematisiert.
Mit deinem nicht vorhandenen Wissen über DT dürfte das sehr ernüchternd für dich werden!
Nestade kann bezeugen, dass dieser Beitrag wirklich gut geworden ist.

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Have fun with it!
Everything has been arranged so that we will then simultaneously publish a post discussing your various transgressions over the last few months.
With your lack of knowledge about DT, this should be very sobering for you!
Nestade can testify that this post turned out really well.

In my opinion, this is only due to inconsistencies in the threads Corona + Corona, Russland vs. EU bzw. Amerika etc..



There were also many differences of opinion with user Beobachter_90, but it was Nestade ho left him a similar entry:
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Beobachter_90 is a plagiarist (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg59558599#msg59558599), shitposter and downplayed Russia's attack on Ukraine (e.g. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386945.msg59368123#msg59368123).
Furthermore, he blindly parrots Unknown01's lie that I am an alt of 1miau to discredit 1miau and me. ~Beobachter_90 recommended
Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=134226

Nestade generally has a lot in common with 1miau but this is only mentioned for the sake of completeness and in my opinion they are no alts from each other.



There was a lot of contact via PN (1miau please read for yourself how harmonious it was between us in our first years together here) but I will not publish any private messages I have received because there are insults and also a lot of drama but it is almost exclusively about the bad moderation of me because I did not let myself be used to censor/delete contrary opinions. But that doesn't have to be the topic here because it's about the trust/feedback topic and we shouldn't mix everything up.

I don't want to keep the discussion going unnecessarily long, but if the issue is on the table and evidence has been requested, then it was time to provide it. At least some of it, because at some point my time on the whole subject will come to an end.

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 #149

Conversely, anyone who is Tilda-ing Ratimov (or whatever it is he calls himself these days) is guilty of trust abuse as he (Ratimov) currently has posted no trust feedback.

Bullshit. He earned his tildes with poor judgement, there is no reason to remove them, particularly since his tantrum is ongoing.

If you took all this effort that you're spending on making shit up and put it towards understanding how this forum actually works, you'd have all those things that you crave so much, all the trust doohickeys and merit thingamabobs that you can dream of.

How does the forum works & how should the forum work according to whom? Satoshi? Have you speak with him in person how the forum should work 2023? Or is it just a fantasy you and your friends have created?
And when someone opposes you and your friends way of using the forum, why cant you just accept it and do move on with your life's? I don't try to create anything, it's a serious question.
How should this forum works and who have the right to make those rules today? Why cant just people use in in the way it fits their day and we all be happy with that without using drama and feedback and hate against each other?
Think about this for a bit.... you own this forum as little as a newbie register next week. Everyone is only guests here, even you. All this is a fantasy, one day this website will shut down, so enjoy your time here instead of arguing how people should use the forum. Be positive instead of negative, I promise you, you will have so much more fun.  Smiley

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A true contribution to the community, being a mod, as well as helping to burn the corruption from it's roots.
This is called "Exemplary". I'm sure he has alts, we need to be on the look out for any DT members with similar behaviour, this system is no longer like before when admin directly hand picked DT1s, NO, now all sorts of weirdos can game the algorithm and get on DT.

So we should find such people and remove them from DT, I'm sure they will continue as usual if they are interested in Bitcoin, if not then they would leave.


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Everything has been arranged so that we will then simultaneously publish a post discussing your various transgressions over the last few months.

This part is very familiar for me, where have we seen 2 or more known trust abusers using the same tactics? Right 1miau and jollygood cornering BenCodie to have a laugh at him.This is getting serious, looks like we have an actual gang here. They have shown interest in gambling boards and casinos, it could be their headquarter if we were to investigate further.

Nothing will change until we all be united with one sound:
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November 23, 2023, 11:53:46 AM
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would it be possible for you to compile a list


Feedback sent for political reasons:

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Poly#Crypto is mentally ill like his friends s0nix + Koal-84, keep in mind when you are considering to trade. Would not risk any Satoshi.
Poly#Crypto is a piece of shit, supporting russian aggression: He has no problems when Russia started attacking Ukraine, and Russians are committing war crimes but Poly#Crypto has problems when Ukrainians defend themselves. How should we trust such an asshole? See also previous feedback.

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s0nix is mentally ill like his friends Poly#Crypto + Koal-84, keep in mind when you are considering to trade. Would not risk any Satoshi.
s0nix is a piece of shit, supporting russian aggression: He has no problems when Russia started attacking Ukraine, and Russians are committing war crimes but s0nix has problems when Ukrainians defend themselves. How should we trust such an asshole? See also previous feedback

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Low value shitposts, spam, burst posting and excessive pyramid-quotes (61052011, 61145452 or 61021354).
In addition, amishmanish downplayed Putin's war by repeatedly spreading pro-russian lies (60250177).
It's discouraged to support such a behaviour by accepting such accounts into signature campaigns.

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Shitposting Bitcointalk with low quality spam all day; then openly accusing me for off-topic shitposting...
The value Koal-84 is contributing to the forum is vanishingly small. The only occasion when his posts are getting longer is to find excuses for Russia's war against Ukraine. Disgusting behaviour from Koal-84! Avoid this Account to steer clear from unnecessary spam and derangement most probably caused due to paid signature campaigns.

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nullius made some disgusting excuses, when he tried to whitewash Putin's war

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Disgusting troll from the German section, where he is infamous for his lies, his unfounded defamations and his Off-Topic Spam Trollposts. Recently he has started to support Putin's war by downplaying it, spreading Kremlin propaganda and s0nix has even started attacking accounts criticizing Putins war.
The behaviour of s0nix is unforgivable and nefarious.

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His shameless defamation campaign is completely nuts. He's spreading his spam, Off-Topic bullshit and pro-russian propaganda in many topics and is constantly derailing the discussion. I called him out for his wrongdoing but he doubled down on his misbehaviour.

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Poly#Crypto is a troll account in our German local board. Doesn't provide any value for the forum - only spam, shitposts, inaccurate information and (of course) defamations and insults. Tries to find excuses for Putin's war.

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Supporting Putins war with Kremlin Propaganda and selling it as "facts". (see my quote in the reference link).
Helping to normalize an ongoing war is a shame. For a while thandie has been a disgusting troll abusing the forum with his off-topic spam.
I addition he's trying to discredit my efforts to help raise funds for civilians in Ukraine.

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One tag is not enough - this account offered to trade Merit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3254613.0;topicseen), his shittoken project is a tremendous fail (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3073043.msg31664978#msg31664978), KingScorpio is a disgusting troll and liar (antisemitic and racist hate comments) and stealing is not an issue for him (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5037733.msg46197278#msg46197278). He's not sane. Better stay safe and avoid KingScorpio.

+ other feedback that was sugar-coated by other "reasons" but was sent RIGHT after a political disagreement like this one

Where 1miau openly admitted that he

5. I'm allowed to tag any troll and I already gave digaran a pass way back in 2022 when I came over him but didn't bother to "poke" the troll digaran.

And

I'm usually only getting active with trust feedbacks, when I'm getting dragged into a confrontation.

It's pretty evident that the negative feedback he left was right after the political disagreement, had they shared the same political view, he wouldn't have sent the feedback.



Trust exclusion for the sole reason of political disagreement

- Mikeywith > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474713.msg63187266#msg63187266
- MindRust  >https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474713.msg63191470#msg63191470
-bullrun2024bro > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474713.msg63200560#msg63200560

+ he almost distrusts ALL those to whom he sent political feedback, which would technically also fall under this list if, of course, out of the 70+ exclusions he has, nobody knows how many were done for just "political reasons", but ya, sure thing is, the list will just get longer with more victims to come.

Narcissistic personality disorder, the urge to insult, curse, and punish everyone who disagrees with him, either by leaving them feedback, or exclusion or trying to censorship them one way or the other  

- Mikeywith : He insulted me in public for political disagreement, sent me a PM full of hatred
- Harassing the German mod to delete posts that he doesn't like for personal or political reasons
- Multiple PMs are sent to the German mod  from people who are afraid of talking against 1miau because he would destroy their accounts
- Excluding people from competition for having a different opinion
-Constant attack against many German community members for having different opinions
-Attacked and sent feedback to a German member for political differences
-Threatening a German member via PM to take actions against him most likely using his DT power simply for political disagreement  
- Publically threatening a German member



Extortion

I was contacted by someone who interacted with 1miau for the removal of political feedback, 1miau said (I have to rephrase since the victim is afraid and I promised not to reveal his name in public).

 "if x member does not express his political opinion about x conflict anymore, I might remove my feedback."

I can't reveal more info about this message as it will lead him to know the victim's name, but as I said before, if any DT member wants the proof and promises to never reveal the victim's name, I am willing to send the proof, I made a promise that I would only show the evidence to someone I trust that they would not reveal the victim name.

- Threatening a German member to change his feedback



Mind you that zero digging was done to compile this long list of abuse and harassment, it was also either posted here or PMed to me during the past couple of days, and given how victims keep showing, it seems that the lists above have a great potential of growth, not that I think they need any more points because there is enough proof that 1miau suffers from egomania.

I am disappointed to find out that 1miau despite being smart and productive, he is just like a child who lacks surrounding awareness, if you give him a puzzle to solve, he will do it, a homework to write he will probably do it neatly, but if you leave a knife next to him, the censuses could be devastating.

So are his posts beneficial to the forum? for the most part yes.
Is he a good Merit source? he sure is.
Is he a good DT member? sure thing no.

1miau is going to harm himself and everyone else who goes against him if he stays in DT, if the DT community doesn't make up their mind to put him out of it at least temporarily, my advice to 1miau is to stay out of it himself, not being able to control your feelings and using all tools you have to punish people who disagree with you is a serious problem that needs to be addressed.



In fact, you can ignore all of the above and just look at the fact that there are some members who had to PM me or the German mod to express their fear, those poor souls are afraid to speak up because they fear what 1miau is capable of doing to them, be it a direct or indirect consequence of the way 1miau uses the system if there is at least 1 human being who needs to accept oppression in a forum that was made for a project that was intended to liberate people from centralized entities -- then this has to stop.


I can hear 1miau bashing their keyboard trying to find a way to word their way out of this extremely well made post. My guess is that he will quote you while removing the content so that he can make some nonsensical answer that can't be easily looked at against the quote content, or he will dig up some information about what you said years ago and turn it into a subpar rebuttal...and I assume the post will leave out responses to all of the most compelling content that is impossible to rebut.

In full seriousness, I hope that members who should also be participating in the reputation board start to chime in...and it may be wishful thinking, but I hope that something is done about 1miau's ego and exacerbated tirades are also dialled back to a tolerable level (at a minimum).

One thing is for sure in my opinion, this user should not have the power to have an influential input on another member's reputation, and I will be surprised this is still the case after due time has passed.
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I am working on understanding everything between you two in my own way to see if mikeywith's observations are true or from a manipulated mind.
~1miau is my final take.
My apology to everyone that caused any influence for adding 1miau in my trust list.
It took me a few days to check the development. There are no point to add anything which could worsen the crisis.

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I'm writing here again because 1. You asked for evidence and 2. because I finally want to have peace in the German local area. There are already enough well-known good accounts no longer in our area because of this guy and I don't want there to be any more. Many people don't say anything because otherwise he threatens them.


Actually, until Corona came, I got along very well with him and I got a lot of Merit from him for my “shitposts”. Then Corona came and we had completely different politically opinions and then he started attacking me, including using bad words. I was also threatened, as mole already wrote, that he and other DT members would take care of me if I didn't stop writing nonsense (i.e. different opinion than his). Suddenly after Corona I was just a shitposter. By the way, I'm not the only one, I estimate 10-15 people from the German local have the same fate as me. A few of these members, some of whom have been/are in the forum for almost 10 years, no longer log in after the guy threatened and attacked them for months.


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Reference   After he was called out for his sigspam, shitposting, nonsense-postings and annoying pyramid-quotes, he over-reacted and instead of admitting his wrongdoing, he doubled down on his misbehaviour: he said, he doesn’t care, doesn’t need to follow the rules and throw defamations at everyone criticizing his wrongdoing. This user commits shitposting at an insane level and is even proud of it

From what he writes there, only one point is true: I actually made pyramid quotes and didn't pay attention to the clarity, but I never said that I wasn't interested in the forum rules. I just said that I wouldn't let him dictate anything to me, but after other nice colleagues politely asked me to improve, I immediately agreed to this request. I mainly post in the German local board and for him my posts since Corona are shitposts. Why after Corona? Well, we had completely different opinions about Corona. For example, I was against many measures and he was in favor of excluding all unvaccinated people from public life.

Then he entered his neutral trusts into my account twice:

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Openly spreading defamations and libel against me and other valuable accounts. This shitposter is an insane maniac and instead of admitting his mistakes (sigspam, shitposting, nonsense-postings, annoying pyramid-quotes and inappropriate use of positive Trust) he's proud of it and he keeps pushing his nonsense. This account should never be accepted in any Signature-Campaign again because accepting this account means encouraging spam and abuse on the forum. See also my previous feedbacks


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Spreading his insane lies about several established accounts from the German section because he's butthurt that we called out his positive trust abuse, his troll- and shitposting and his disgusting behaviour.
Unknown01 is contributing nothing to the forum and recently, he has started to threaten and attack Newbies.
Unknown01 is an embarassement.

As if that wasn't embarrassing enough, his „friend“ then wrote 2 very similar entries (especially word similarity):

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Falsely accuses me of being an alt of 1miau without evidence as a reaction of me giving him neutral trust (more information in Reference).

He has started threatening newbies: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5404157.msg60449095#msg60449095 - he even falesly claims to be in a "group" with the German moderator in order to threaten other users

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Like 1miau already pointed out, Unknown01 is a "casual but ardent shitposter". Unknown01 is not admitting his mistakes and keeps pushing his nonsense shitposting like pyramid-quoting etc.
Additionally he's misusing the trust-system by giving MinoRaiola positive trust without any involved trade or anything that justifies POSITIVE trust (https://i.imgur.com/W5ZUCIw.png). ~Unknown01 is recommended.

And as if that wasn't already an exaggeration, a newbie account suddenly wrote a trust, which made me wonder how a newbie knows about the trust-system so well and why a newbie even registers in this forum to talk about political discussions and at the same time 1:1 has the same opinion as 1miau? By the way: This account hasn't been logged in for a long time and was actually only active to take action against me:


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User abuses the trust system and trades positive trusts to his friends s0nix and MinoRaiola. See dates of trust entries. This shitposter is an insane maniac and instead of admitting his mistakes (sigspam, shitposting, nonsense-postings, annoying pyramid-quotes and inappropriate use of positive Trust) he's proud of it and he keeps pushing his nonsense. This account should never be accepted in any Signature-Campaign again because accepting this account means encouraging spam and abuse on the forum. See previous feedbacks from other accounts

By the way, he also wrote two neutral trusts!


And no, I 100% didn't threaten him with a ban, but we already had a topic about it in this forum section.

Because of 1miau I got a few ~ entries from people who have never had anything to do with me in their lives. I have been in the forum since 2017 and have already moved a few mBTC here and I dare to say that my colleagues from the German local trust me a lot - just as I trust them a lot.

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November 23, 2023, 02:53:48 PM
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Do you want to know why the always present army of good is not actively seeking for justice here? Because they don't really care. Anyways, since this is directly involving DT1 members trusting 1miau, I would like to suggest someone send them all the link to the evidences posted by mikey, I don't think me sending it would help the case, ONLY to those DT1 members currently trusting him, also to the next month candidates as well, THEIR input is needed here.

They might not be "aware" of this situation.

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A week later in week 228 @GazetaBitcoin also added me to his distrust list. No clue why, I never spoke to him. He never spoke to me. Might be a coincidence, but the timing is odd ofc.

However, honestly I don't care and I wouldn't have brought it up, but since @1miau offered "to make improvements" I wanted to add my story to the discussion. Nobody has a 100% strike rate and I am sure he can improve, if he wants to.

I didn't really want to write here (I'm done with this person who is probably unhappy with himself and his life, who always wants to be right, and who also gets very personal and insulting in his trust entries, which he actually wants to prevent with his manner, but if you're not on his line you're automatically against it and make insinuations with friends etc. to users I don't even know), but I felt the same way.

I don't care about his personal trustlist in the war against his opinion (it's also his decision), but I noticed the same thing when I had DT2, GazetaBitcoin suddenly had me on his distrust list and a neutral entry in my trustlist, although the user neither knows me nor probably speaks my language...  Huh

Probably miau had something to do with it, but I don't care anymore.

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No improvement since he received his first warning due to shitposting and supporting the russian invasion against Ukraine. Koal-84 is mentally ill like his friends s0nix + Poly#Crypto, keep in mind when you are considering to trade. Would not risk any Satoshi. Koal-84 is a piece of shit, supporting russian aggression: He has no problems when Russia started attacking Ukraine, and Russians are committing war crimes but Koal-84 has problems when Ukrainians defend themselves. How should we trust such an asshole? See also previous feedback.

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Shitposting Bitcointalk with low quality spam all day; then openly accusing me for off-topic shitposting...
The value Koal-84 is contributing to the forum is vanishingly small. The only occasion when his posts are getting longer is to find excuses for Russia's war against Ukraine. Disgusting behaviour from Koal-84! Avoid this Account to steer clear from unnecessary spam and derangement most probably caused due to paid signature campaigns.

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I don't care about his personal trustlist in the war against his opinion (it's also his decision), but I noticed the same thing when I had DT2, GazetaBitcoin suddenly had me on his distrust list and a neutral entry in my trustlist, although the user neither knows me nor probably speaks my language...  Huh

Probably miau had something to do with it, but I don't care anymore.
My guess is that he will have made a lot of decisions together with him. I think Im a very good example of the fact that I was attacked by both of them. I never had anything to do with him before and suddenly he is fighting against me? This is not normal and we could think about creating a new thread in the future "Is GazetaBitcoin fit for DT?“ Or was he manipulated and has now seen that he acted wrongly? That would be better.

If I look at the past, I would think that 1miau is preparing something and we will read another attack from him. If thats not the case, then I would be surprised.

If this doesnt happen, I am very happy that this is coming to an end, I would even be grateful for the peace. But the past can no longer be changed.

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One of my friends' accounts was tagged as a "shitposter" by 1miau. I contacted 1miau on Telegram to inquire about the reason for his feedback and if it could be removed. 1miau stated that he would consider removing it if my friend refrained from discussing the Ukraine war and acknowledged that he was mistaken in his politically neutral stance. I conveyed this to my friend, who agreed, ceasing to post on the political board after 1miau removed the feedback.

My friend remains apprehensive, and when I asked if I could post a screenshot of the conversations with 1miau on Telegram, he declined. However, I suggested that I present it to the administrator or a moderator, or any DT member.


As for me, I created this new account specifically to remain anonymous, ensuring that this oppressive DT member cannot track me or the others who will follow his approach. But I can send the proof in a private message using my original account for a DT member on the forum who does not have 1miau in his trust list.
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Is the telegram account of miau publicly posted by himself somewhere? Is his number known to anyone?
No personal information should be revealed, we are not in a position  to do that, so if anyone has a plan like that, refrain from doing it, unless it involves a crime, which should be dealt with by local authorities.


I might be wrong, but is there a DT rule in place to take effect if majority decides not to take action due to involvement of an annoying troll in a case? I don't know why 1miau trust buds are excluding me instead of him, I hope it's not a mental problem, but they seem to be very angry with me, like I kicked their calm and undisturbed nest or something.

Do they even realize people are watching, or maybe they don't take me seriously NOT to mention all the victims of miau and now Gazeta's abusive behaviour + using trust system to censor political opinions.

Do you want to know the reason? Too much freedom for abusers, and lack of oversight.

But we need to give it time, so they can all make up their minds.

@afraid-of-Injustice, with patience you can move mountains, good thing he is not doing any thing right now.
To all others, don't be afraid, express your reasonable and civilized opinions without crossing any lines, if anyone harassed you or threatened you to shut you up, report in reputation board.  The moment you back down, is the moment of their victory.

I got work to do, bye.

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I've only now read about this issue (I'm not very active in the meta boards and Reputation) and don't want to add unnecessary content, but it's possible the forum has lost 1miau (they locked several threads with competitions and cancelled them, see this, this and this one).

In my opinion it would be a very sad outcome if 1miau really left, and really hope they can calm down a bit, maybe take a time to relax and then come back, and their "adversaries" in this dispute think a bit about their actions as well. I think 1miau are an excellent high-quality post author and I support their activities against shitposting as well. However I agree with some of you that they may get easily into heated discussions and "shoot over the target" sometimes. And while I agree that everybody can handle their trust settings like they please, I think it should not be used to pressure others. However, some of 1miau's adversaries have shown very questionable stances (radical right-wing in most cases) in some off-topic threads, so I can understand 1miau's anger a bit.

I always wonder when I see such meta problems deriving in such drama but whatever. Let's talk more about Bitcoin instead Smiley

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November 23, 2023, 08:57:27 PM
Last edit: November 23, 2023, 09:07:38 PM by BenCodie
Merited by Unknown01 (1), digaran (1)
 #160

I've only now read about this issue (I'm not very active in the meta boards and Reputation) and don't want to add unnecessary content, but it's possible the forum has lost 1miau (they locked several threads with competitions and cancelled them, see this, this and this one).

In my opinion it would be a very sad outcome if 1miau really left, and really hope they can calm down a bit, maybe take a time to relax and then come back, and their "adversaries" in this dispute think a bit about their actions as well. I think 1miau are an excellent high-quality post author and I support their activities against shitposting as well. However I agree with some of you that they may get easily into heated discussions and "shoot over the target" sometimes. And while I agree that everybody can handle their trust settings like they please, I think it should not be used to pressure others. However, some of 1miau's adversaries have shown very questionable stances (radical right-wing in most cases) in some off-topic threads, so I can understand 1miau's anger a bit.

I always wonder when I see such meta problems deriving in such drama but whatever. Let's talk more about Bitcoin instead Smiley

It might be sad for you or people who enjoyed their posts, but it is definitely not sad for the users who have been attacked by 1miau, who have been dragged into days and days of battling with his drama that could not be considered rational discussion, or fair debate. 1miau will crop content of quotes so that he can respond inappropriately and confuse the reader, 1miau will abuse and insult and then complain when others retaliate, 1miau will add negative labels that apply more to them than to anyone else - and get away with it all.

Imagine how many good members have left, stopped posting or worse, got inappropriate negative trust feedback because of 1miau's tirades, or how many have received negative labels that maybe they did not actually deserve? Everyone is capable of being a high quality member...but a member who disrupts community participation is a member who will not be missed...and relating to this, if 1miau won this debate and mikeywith was discredited or left because of the outcome, would that be a better or worse outcome? Go and look at 1miau vs mikeywith and if we are really talking about true quality and value, mikeywith wins hands down. I'd take a mikeywith over a 1miau every day of the week and a rational community focused on quality, value and less conflict would too in my opinion.

To address what you have said, I doubt 1miau is gone. I am sure they will do or say something soon...it's only been a couple of days. What's more likely is 1miau is overwhelmed with the feeling of being in the wrong, unsupported and speechless for the first time.
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