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November 22, 2023, 01:30:08 AM
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A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?
I would have nothing to say to those that choose to donate their money to someone like that as they know way better than myself what they do with their money.

However I would never do this as I feel that I will be enabling bad behavior, going through difficult times after acting irresponsibly is not the end of the world, and in fact it could help a person realize they have been doing something incorrect and change their ways, and we know this is true as there are many people that after getting arrested and staying on jail for a time claim this is the best thing it could happen to them, as it allowed them to see they were going through the wrong path and change their lives.
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November 22, 2023, 01:35:33 AM
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Personaly, I wouldn't share a received prize with gambling community. I think it's a better idea to donate portions of the money to people in need close to me who I know their realities, so I can see if they are using the donated money wisely for their personal growment, or if they are just wasting it on addictions or worthless stuff. There are many people seeking for an opportunity through a helping hand, so they can change their lives, and I think it's on this kind of people that we should to focus our efforts, instead of sponsoring addictive and irresponsible behaviors from individuals who can't manage their finances properly.

Not that these people shouldn't be helped and supported as well, but the approach must be different.

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November 22, 2023, 01:47:08 AM
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Some have a lot and waste it and others don't have it and need it, addicts sometimes have to hit rock bottom to come to their senses.

example:

I am going to install fiber optics for the first time (I have 1mb/s), the price is $170 for the installation (blessed third world country), I have $40.
 
Will I bet that $40?

I won't do it, because being needy makes people value what we have more.


Now, if a friend is addicted, I would give it to them, and I would tell them to try to get away from it, and to seek professional help, whether they lose or win.

There are friendships that are worth more than money.


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November 22, 2023, 05:00:14 AM
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No. This will only make gamblers feel that they will be helped to meet their living needs while they can still gamble as usual. They may be even more irresponsible in their gambling because they are calm to see that there is crowdfunding that will help them. But if crowdfunding is intended to help problem gamblers cure gambling addiction, for example, maybe crowdfunding can work well. Maybe there are still people who care about others, especially those who experience gambling addiction problems, so from crowdfunding, they can use the funds to help the healing process of people who are addicted to gambling.

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November 22, 2023, 05:04:06 AM
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A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

No way, I don't even consider such an act to be serious because the individual is clearly incompetent in managing their funds so what if he just gambles again with the raised funds?

But the situation will be different if the affected party seek the public help and also need financial support to cover the loss made from irresponsible behaviour of someone then its possible that people will consider giving them help in someway.

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November 22, 2023, 05:52:53 AM
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Personaly, I wouldn't share a received prize with gambling community. I think it's a better idea to donate portions of the money to people in need close to me who I know their realities, so I can see if they are using the donated money wisely for their personal growment, or if they are just wasting it on addictions or worthless stuff. There are many people seeking for an opportunity through a helping hand, so they can change their lives, and I think it's on this kind of people that we should to focus our efforts, instead of sponsoring addictive and irresponsible behaviors from individuals who can't manage their finances properly.

Not that these people shouldn't be helped and supported as well, but the approach must be different.
If you divide the winnings among the gaming community, they won't understand its worth, and some may even squander the money for more gambling rather than saving it for something worthwhile since they want to win too. Giving the money to those you believe need it—friends and family in particular—is the wiser course of action, as you mentioned. They'll even be grateful for what you've done for them. It's a fact that some people will spend their money on material goods, while others may spend it on things that have no real value. And their are people that they will so use the money well that when you see them you will be impressed with how they spent their money. And if we understand anybody life style we should know what they are capable of doing. So that you don't give and you them spending the money on drugs or something even worst you won't be happy at all.

No. This will only make gamblers feel that they will be helped to meet their living needs while they can still gamble as usual. They may be even more irresponsible in their gambling because they are calm to see that there is crowdfunding that will help them. But if crowdfunding is intended to help problem gamblers cure gambling addiction, for example, maybe crowdfunding can work well. Maybe there are still people who care about others, especially those who experience gambling addiction problems, so from crowdfunding, they can use the funds to help the healing process of people who are addicted to gambling.
Some of them might even perceive you as an incentive to gamble more, just to see whether they will follow suit. That's my constant issue with addicts. They see that nearly everything is motivating. And some of them even function, but they are not a clear solution. It is better to seek professional assistance as soon as it is determined that addiction is the issue. Their are addictions that are worst than gambling the best that can be done if any is noticed then they should recommend help for them. Because addictions like drugs are serious addictions that affect both the victims finance and health.

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November 22, 2023, 08:00:12 AM
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That's a irresponsible gambler, only a fool will raise money for them, sometimes its hard to see through people using their mistakes and if that's what I failed to realize here then this person should stand up for himself and build something first.

Even big crowfunding companies risks their money on something that's half way baked, almost through or within the Beta stage, they make sure that they see somethinh worth risking money on before taking the step, if this person haven't done anything, no past achievements and experience you are simply throwing your money away.

Like I've said, maybe gambling isnt just good for this person but he failed to manage his bankroll that's why he is a irresponsible gambler, to me its a red flag to sponsor such person, but they have the chance to change minds, if he can prove himself one way or the other.

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November 22, 2023, 09:02:22 AM
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Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

Answer with that is a big NO if you help those irresponsible gambler then they can't learn a lesson for action they have done but instead, it will push them more to gamble because they know that there's a community would able to help them once he face another challenge in life. So to help those people its better for him to realize that what he did is so wrong so he need to change his attitude towards gambling so that he will not use those cash which is intended for other more important matter. Giving empathy cannot help them and they need to learn a lesson in a hard way so that they became more better person also could even realize for theirselves that they should not repeat those mistakes since they struggle so bad for taking wrong decisions.

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November 22, 2023, 09:38:36 AM
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Some of them might even perceive you as an incentive to gamble more, just to see whether they will follow suit. That's my constant issue with addicts. They see that nearly everything is motivating. And some of them even function, but they are not a clear solution. It is better to seek professional assistance as soon as it is determined that addiction is the issue. Their are addictions that are worst than gambling the best that can be done if any is noticed then they should recommend help for them. Because addictions like drugs are serious addictions that affect both the victims finance and health.
If they realize that they are addicted to gambling, they should seek professional help who can help cure their gambling addiction. We cannot recommend help to them while they are still struggling with gambling because that only makes them think that we are there to help them if they have problems. That will not be good for gamblers because they will not realize that we want to help them recover from gambling addiction and not help them to gamble. They will only experience a worse gambling addiction and if that happens, we will be the ones experiencing difficulties and won't be able to help them.

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A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?
If he gambled irresponsibly, then he does not need crowdfunidng rather he needs to visit a psychologist for help on how to deal with his gambling addiction. Giving money to him is just telling him to continue from where he stopped.

So I don't see the need for crowdfunding such fellow and I will never be a part of it.
Exactly! Why would you waste your time funding an irresponsible gambler in the first place? I'm intrigued by this topic because for me, I won't let myself giving a support and provide financial assistance to a people who gamble because I've learned that when you want to do something like gambling or such things, you have to work hard and make sure you don't rely on others. That's your main responsibility and if you failed to do that, You just showed them that you don't deserve the help they'll give to you, besides I won't tolerate someone who have vices but can't provide for their habits.



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November 22, 2023, 10:38:16 AM
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Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

Answer with that is a big NO if you help those irresponsible gambler then they can't learn a lesson for action they have done but instead, it will push them more to gamble because they know that there's a community would able to help them once he face another challenge in life. So to help those people its better for him to realize that what he did is so wrong so he need to change his attitude towards gambling so that he will not use those cash which is intended for other more important matter. Giving empathy cannot help them and they need to learn a lesson in a hard way so that they became more better person also could even realize for theirselves that they should not repeat those mistakes since they struggle so bad for taking wrong decisions.
Definitely a big NO! We are working hard for earning money and i dont see any valid reason for me to show up some support or trying out to crowdfund into those gamblers who do get addicted just because you are really
having some sympathy on them basing on the situation or condition that they are experiencing? It would really be totally out of your mind if you are really that trying out to help those people.FOr what?
You are really just that basically worsening up the situation on trying out to fund them. For what? reasons? Also if you are thinking about trying to help then you arent really that helping them
either so there's no point on doing such thing.

Who would really be on their right minds that would really be doing such action. Spending or donating money just to let someone to play even more? This isnt a solution
on resolving the issue.Unless if we do talk about some funding or showing support about rehabiliation or something speaking about gambling addiction counseling organization
then i might consider on making some donation but if its not then no thanks!

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November 22, 2023, 10:56:02 AM
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A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

He doesn't deserve to be supported there's no guarantee that he will not gamble the money, he is not a responsible and honorable person for gambling money that is not supposed to be spent for gambling, those who donate tolerate the guy for his being a chronic gambler.
What he needs is help on how to overcome his gambling addiction he doesn't know how to allocate money for gambling and for important expenses, this person will gamble any amount of money he gets hold of, while he is still addicted to gambling people close to him should not allow him to handle money.

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November 22, 2023, 11:18:19 AM
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A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run.
This happens only when one had fun and also created relationships of good memories around the very gambling tables and had gained a massive (huge) success through the means of same gambling else no one wants to share its peace of Penny cake or giving credits to others who doesn't acknowledge the source of your success.

Right from Time, I hope to believe that if gambling definitely proffers me such succeed, I think of funding (sponsoring) an annual competitions amongst the gamblers. This is strictly going to be free stakes amongst them as they gets on the gambling table while specific (s) positions in the winning roles are awarded basically accordingly.
Thought of doing this is to modify the emotion's of the gamblers hoping to frame a Common relationships with good memories amongst us all.

I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?
I will take such situations for humanity action and not about giving back to the gambling because such a giver could also give to ones else aside the gambling sections. However, such term is considered a friend who deserves help and had to be helped since I am opportuned to mostly especially as long he wasn't in need of it to stake on the gambling but I can bodily say that... If he is known for an addicted gambler then I am definitely turning away because such request being granted could be misused contrarily to the reasons  of his appeals.











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November 22, 2023, 12:34:51 PM
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A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

I would hesitate to support a crowdfunding campaign if I knew that the person behind it had lost funds to gambling and that those funds were allocated for important things. Participating in such a campaign could mean that the person may use the funds for gambling activities again.

It is important to respect an individual's personal choices when they decide to donate to crowdfunding. But if I am familiar with the person, I may ask why they want to assist certain individuals. If the person still wishes to provide help, I will not interfere with their decision.
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November 22, 2023, 12:57:07 PM
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I won’t bother to crowdfund for any gambler who has been irresponsible with his gambling habit. Someone who is into gambling should know the risks and most importantly, know that you should only use funds allocated for such purposes.
In a lot of cases, after crying out on social media seeking assistance and later being bailed out, that individual might later again go down the same path that initially led him to seek assistance from friends and strangers online having thoughts of being bailed out again if anything goes wrong again.

There are certain scenarios which I would willingly crowdfund for, but a gambler having knowingly and willingly spent funds not supposed to be spent, isn’t one of them.

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November 22, 2023, 12:58:08 PM
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Answer with that is a big NO if you help those irresponsible gambler then they can't learn a lesson for action they have done but instead, it will push them more to gamble because they know that there's a community would able to help them once he face another challenge in life. So to help those people its better for him to realize that what he did is so wrong so he need to change his attitude towards gambling so that he will not use those cash which is intended for other more important matter. Giving empathy cannot help them and they need to learn a lesson in a hard way so that they became more better person also could even realize for theirselves that they should not repeat those mistakes since they struggle so bad for taking wrong decisions.

There is an expression - "even a stick shoots once a year", so even the most irresponsible player can become very lucky. He doesn't have any brakes, he does things first and thinks later. Sometimes such people are the ones who achieve maximum success
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November 22, 2023, 12:58:16 PM
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Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

Answer with that is a big NO if you help those irresponsible gambler then they can't learn a lesson for action they have done but instead, it will push them more to gamble because they know that there's a community would able to help them once he face another challenge in life. So to help those people its better for him to realize that what he did is so wrong so he need to change his attitude towards gambling so that he will not use those cash which is intended for other more important matter. Giving empathy cannot help them and they need to learn a lesson in a hard way so that they became more better person also could even realize for theirselves that they should not repeat those mistakes since they struggle so bad for taking wrong decisions.
Definitely a big NO! We are working hard for earning money and i dont see any valid reason for me to show up some support or trying out to crowdfund into those gamblers who do get addicted just because you are really
having some sympathy on them basing on the situation or condition that they are experiencing? It would really be totally out of your mind if you are really that trying out to help those people.FOr what?
You are really just that basically worsening up the situation on trying out to fund them. For what? reasons? Also if you are thinking about trying to help then you arent really that helping them
either so there's no point on doing such thing.

Who would really be on their right minds that would really be doing such action. Spending or donating money just to let someone to play even more? This isnt a solution
on resolving the issue.Unless if we do talk about some funding or showing support about rehabiliation or something speaking about gambling addiction counseling organization
then i might consider on making some donation but if its not then no thanks!

Who in the right mind will do a crowdfunding just to save a irresponsible gambler to get out on the mess he created? For sure no one will help him since its his own decision to be in that worst situation so he need to face a consequence on the action he do.

And for sure if he will not get any help from random people for sure he can learn a lot of things since he would provably realize that he create a huge mistake of his life.

So we should never give a damn taking those problem of other people especially if they don't deserve to get a help since as I said they will not learn from their mistake if there's someone will always save their ass from the mess they enter.

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November 22, 2023, 01:14:52 PM
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So you want to know what the meaning is of gambling wins and crowdfunding gambling losses? The truth is that gambling is a game of luck and skill. Some days you win and some days you lose. Should people who win give back? Okay, why not? Its a nice touch to share happiness. Crowdfunding for people who lost their rent money at the tables, though? Lets be honest here.

This has nothing to do with being cruel; it has to do with being responsible. When you gamble, you're having fun, not planning your finances. Donors to these kinds of groups are doing good things, but they are really just supporting a bad way of thinking. Putting a band-aid on a gunshot wound is the same thing. Encouraging? Could be. Wise? Not really.

Going to the casino should be fun and exciting, not a way to get out of making bad choices. Thats how it should stay. Dont use gambling as a crutch for people who arent smart. Keep it fun.

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November 22, 2023, 02:10:56 PM
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... whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

You've just agreed that he did the right thing and tolerated his being a compulsive gambler he should be ashamed of himself for asking for money because he lost his money that is intended for important things.
People should not support a gambler for crowdfunding if he has lost his money as he misplaced it and if he shows us proof that he indeed lost his money then we can support him.
I don't think I can support this kind of gambler I will not even give him a penny for being an irresponsible gambler.
People should list their priorities when it comes to money and gambling is not something you prioritize, it should be the least of your priorities.

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November 22, 2023, 02:26:01 PM
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Well my take on this is that he should try again next time but to play reasonably. He should not expect crowdfunding when he has behaved irresponsibly. However, I believe addicts can sympathize with him because they understand it and perhaps have been in same shoes before. I don't think I would encourage him to bet with money he can't afford to forego by helping in crowdfunding because that is what it seem like.

Gambling is not a guarantee for profit, so we should play responsibly and bear our consequences because profit never gets to another man's pocket.

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