Wasabi Wallet - Open Source, Noncustodial Coinjoin Software

[Kruw]

zkSNACKs did not, was not and is not shut down yet when you describe yourself as a "Contributor to Wasabi Wallet" but you are not willing to explain what that means. You already embarrassed yourself with your gutter-level conduct over recent months and now you are embarrassing yourself even further by avoiding to answer.

How did I "embarrass myself"?

[JollyGood]

For some reason Kruw continues to claim zkSNACKs had shutdown last month but in reality it operates and continues to update Wasabi Wallet.

Kruw has labelled himself as a "Contributor to Wasabi Wallet" without explaining what that means. With him failing to even answer the question or address the point and not bother explaining what it means no matter how many times you ask, shows he is very keen to not comment on it. If that is the case, he clearly has something to hide.

How difficult can it be for him to explain what his relationship with zkSNACKs is and to explain what he means when he claims to be a "Contributor to Wasabi Wallet".

[Wind_FURY]

For some reason Kruw continues to claim zkSNACKs had shutdown last month but in reality it operates and continues to update Wasabi Wallet.

Kruw has labelled himself as a "Contributor to Wasabi Wallet" without explaining what that means. With him failing to even answer the question or address the point and not bother explaining what it means no matter how many times you ask, shows he is very keen to not comment on it. If that is the case, he clearly has something to hide.

How difficult can it be for him to explain what his relationship with zkSNACKs is and to explain what he means when he claims to be a "Contributor to Wasabi Wallet".

If looking to it from a viewpoint of an actual Open Source project, a contributor means that - simply a programmer who makes pull requests, and contributes code to the project/proposes changes. Your question should be if he's an official employee of zkSNACKS/who receives a salary or a sort of compensation directly from the company. Because if not, then a contributor is a contributor who works for free.

[JollyGood]

Those are my sentiments exactly. All I wanted was for him to state it by his own admission. He still promotes himself as a "Contributor to Wasabi Wallet" when anybody could request changes on Github whether they are implemented or rejected by the core team yet still cite himself a contributor. In the past he always given the impression he is someone associated far closer to zkSNACKs than he actually was.

In his recent posts, he even stated zkSNACKs shutdown last month (when they did not) and avoided answering what his relationship with zkSNACKs was. He seems like a fraud going around trying to link himself to a project he can latch on to and then overstates his importance to both stroke his overinflated ego as well as to try to fool people in to believing he is someone important.

If looking to it from a viewpoint of an actual Open Source project, a contributor means that - simply a programmer who makes pull requests, and contributes code to the project/proposes changes. Your question should be if he's an official employee of zkSNACKS/who receives a salary or a sort of compensation directly from the company. Because if not, then a contributor is a contributor who works for free.

[PrivacyG]

Those are my sentiments exactly. All I wanted was for him to state it by his own admission.

He owns the ability to answer to a basic Yes or No question, but he has clearly avoided this question in particular for years, along many others, while continuing this 'where proof?' childish behavior for what ever reason.  This is clearly a question he is trying his hardest not to answer.

[Wind_FURY]

Those are my sentiments exactly. All I wanted was for him to state it by his own admission.

He owns the ability to answer to a basic Yes or No question, but he has clearly avoided this question in particular for years, along many others, while continuing this 'where proof?' childish behavior for what ever reason.  This is clearly a question he is trying his hardest not to answer.

But that's his decision, and although he might be hiding something, he truly doesn't owe us anything if he wants his identity hidden. We merely need to accept that he's simply a "contributor" for zkSNACKS. But if anyone wants to meet him in person, you can introduce yourself and ask him his name and what his actual work is in zkSNACKS, you can do that in Prague.

[BlackHatCoiner]

He owns the ability to answer to a basic Yes or No question

TwistyPhrasy will never answer a question that will make Wasabi look bad, and there really isn't any way to explain why would zkSNACKs buy information from chain analysis company, if they think it's inaccurate.

(Laughable) Answers to these questions have been given in here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5405325.msg60518076#msg60518076. To me, the TLDR is that you can't trust a single line of code coming from these people.

[Wind_FURY]

He owns the ability to answer to a basic Yes or No question

TwistyPhrasy will never answer a question that will make Wasabi look bad, and there really isn't any way to explain why would zkSNACKs buy information from chain analysis company, if they think it's inaccurate.

(Laughable) Answers to these questions have been given in here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5405325.msg60518076#msg60518076. To me, the TLDR is that you can't trust a single line of code coming from these people.

I'm not defending Kruw, but that, ser is such an irresponsible statement. You probably can't trust a single of code from Kruw's contributions/work in closed source project/proprietary software - IF he did any of that. But in Wasabi I believe all code/contributions from all developers are Open Source, no?

It's understandable that people ask questions because there's doubt, but let's stick with the facts and avoid mud-slinging.

[Kruw]

You probably can't trust a single of code from Kruw's contributions/work in closed source project/proprietary software - IF he did any of that. But in Wasabi I believe all code/contributions from all developers are Open Source, no?

Exactly. There's never trust required since Wasabi is open source.

[BlackHatCoiner]

I'm not defending Kruw, but that, ser is such an irresponsible statement.

If you've delved into the source code, verified everything, and seen there's no problem, then kudos to you, and you have my respect. But, I'm pretty confident that the 99.9% of the users of any product won't do this. Most will simply download the binaries and, at best, verify the signature.

If you haven't verified the source code, then you need to trust the people who have written and studied the source code. Allow me to not trust liars with my privacy software.

[Kruw]

If you haven't verified the source code, then you need to trust the people who have written and studied the source code. Allow me to not trust liars with my privacy software.

So you only trust Chipmixer (who scammed everyone), Whirlwind (who scammed everyone) and Mixtum (who said they will confiscate your deposit at any time for any reason without assuming any responsibility whatsoever):

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What "lie" was told that makes you prefer Mixtum's hostile terms instead of using open source software?

[BlackHatCoiner]

Can you make an argument without resorting to whataboutism for once?

[Kruw]

Can you make an argument without resorting to whataboutism for once?

Why should anyone accept your attempts to blame and shame in good faith when everyone knows how low your standards are for Chipmixer, Whirlwind, and Mixtum? What is the exact accusation of "lying" you are making here? The entire code is open source, nothing is more honest than that.

[Wind_FURY]

I'm not defending Kruw, but that, ser is such an irresponsible statement.

If you've delved into the source code, verified everything, and seen there's no problem, then kudos to you, and you have my respect. But, I'm pretty confident that the 99.9% of the users of any product won't do this. Most will simply download the binaries and, at best, verify the signature.

If you haven't verified the source code, then you need to trust the people who have written and studied the source code. Allow me to not trust liars with my privacy software.

The point is the project is Open Source, and therefore anyone can audit the code. If you say that Kruw can't be trusted with a single line of code - suggesting that Wasabi might have "something nefarious" in its codebase, then I would say that the code is Open Source. If then Kruw is deliberately nefarious with Wasabi, then it would be noticed sooner or later. OR for the people who want to prove that Kruw is a bad actor, then start auditing the code now. 

[JollyGood]

Those are my sentiments exactly. All I wanted was for him to state it by his own admission.

He owns the ability to answer to a basic Yes or No question, but he has clearly avoided this question in particular for years, along many others, while continuing this 'where proof?' childish behavior for what ever reason.  This is clearly a question he is trying his hardest not to answer.

It does make you wonder exactly what his frame of mind is when he behaves in such ridiculous manner. He can make it clear that he is or is not a paid employee of Wasabi Wallet creator zkSNACKs but is actively avoiding it. If he makes it clear he is not an employee of zkSNACKs it might result in him being kicked out of the BTC Prague event since anybody can contribute to anything therefore his "Contributor to Wasabi Wallet" claim will mean nothing.

He is totally deluded to not only claim zkSNACKs shut down last month but only to repeat the claim after I pointed out to him that was not the case. Not only that, when he makes pointless walls of text in an effort to deflect he only brings himself down further.

But that's his decision, and although he might be hiding something, he truly doesn't owe us anything if he wants his identity hidden. We merely need to accept that he's simply a "contributor" for zkSNACKS. But if anyone wants to meet him in person, you can introduce yourself and ask him his name and what his actual work is in zkSNACKS, you can do that in Prague.

It is inevitable his identity will not be hidden if he ends up in the BTC Prague event therefore I see no logic why that would be a factor to consider but the pertinent issue is more to do with the fact he his identity or any other details will remain as anonymous as before if he were to claim to be an employee of zkSNACKS. Furthermore, the same can be said if he were to go on to state he was not (and never was) an employee of zkSNACKS.

[jickiticky]

Min input count was too low

Anyone has input on how to solve this and what it means?

I have relatively large amount of btc, so it shouldn't be a problem. What am i missing?

[Kruw]

Min input count was too low. Anyone has input on how to solve this and what it means? I have relatively large amount of btc, so it shouldn't be a problem. What am i missing?

If you are seeing this message, that means that the coordinator you chose is creating rounds that have a lower minimum input count than the one you specified in the coordinator settings. Clients require a minimum of 21 inputs in a round by default:



If you don't mind participating in small coinjoin rounds, then you can decrease the min input count in your settings to use the coinjoin coordinator you already selected. If you want to ensure you only enter larger coinjoin rounds, then you would need to switch to a new coordinator that requires a higher minimum input count.

[jickiticky]

Min input count was too low. Anyone has input on how to solve this and what it means? I have relatively large amount of btc, so it shouldn't be a problem. What am i missing?

If you are seeing this message, that means that the coordinator you chose is creating rounds that have a lower minimum input count than the one you specified in the coordinator settings. Clients require a minimum of 21 inputs in a round by default:

https://i.ibb.co/6rtjnJ3/image.png

If you don't mind participating in small coinjoin rounds, then you can decrease the min input count in your settings to use the coinjoin coordinator you already selected. If you want to ensure you only enter larger coinjoin rounds, then you would need to switch to a new coordinator that requires a higher minimum input count.

How much smaller can i go?

Im using your coordinator, default is 21, can i set it lower and connect? doesn't everyone else in the group also need to lower their setting in that case? if i select 5 and the others have 21 and we never reach 21, then no gets included in the coinjoin?

[Kruw]

How much smaller can i go?

Im using your coordinator, default is 21, can i set it lower and connect? doesn't everyone else in the group also need to lower their setting in that case? if i select 5 and the others have 21 and we never reach 21, then no gets included in the coinjoin?

The minimum input count for my coordinator is 50, so that means anyone who has a min input value set between 5 and 50 can still join. If you change your settings to require a min input count of 51+, then your client won't join the round.

[jickiticky]

How much smaller can i go?

Im using your coordinator, default is 21, can i set it lower and connect? doesn't everyone else in the group also need to lower their setting in that case? if i select 5 and the others have 21 and we never reach 21, then no gets included in the coinjoin?

The minimum input count for my coordinator is 50, so that means anyone who has a min input value set between 5 and 50 can still join. If you change your settings to require a min input count of 51+, then your client won't join the round.

Thanks, will try this. Btw, i sent you a private message.