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December 04, 2023, 01:39:54 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
In the same way I console myself, when I lose gambling, if I see someone else on the same board losing more than me or another friend of mine losing more than me, I compare myself to them and console myself that I am enough. I lost less than others. These things not only help us forget about our own losses but they also harm us because they do not allow us to repent of our gambling losses. and later on we make the same mistake and lose the gamble. So I think it is better to avoid these activities

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December 04, 2023, 01:41:12 PM
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Gamblers that want to make money will see money lost as losses. Gamblers that are having fun while gambling will see losses as nothing.

If I am gambling, it is just like I am wasting money on bear while paying for my friends to drink with me, but the fun I have and the good moment made it not as a loss. I see gambling this way.

If a friend is letting you know how he loss,  always try to encourage him and tell him not to be using the amount of money he can not afford to lose to bet. He should not see gambling as a way of making money.
The average person who counts their losses is a gambler who is looking to profit from their gambling, you can't go wrong with that argument from this perspective of a gambler comparing his losses or gains to other gamblers.

Again we see that many people make gambling as a place to make money, it is a mistake that will continue, and the scheme will eventually catch up with their losses so that they do not realize they are addicted to such a mindset.
I really regret this kind of thing, but it is their right, so I just laugh when they are told but reject the truth. Cheesy

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December 04, 2023, 01:41:53 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

They are even willing to spend a lot of time every day in the hope of winning at gambling. The look on their faces when they are losing is quite sad to see, causing concern for those of us who see it. We shouldn't have to think like that when we see their sad faces due to losing at gambling because they have experienced large amounts of money earned from gambling.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

This is what is meant by why we don't need to have sympathy for them, because each of them has personally gone through various conditions in the gambling games they play.
They have felt that the number of wins is large or medium. It is their turn to experience continuous defeat, they realize that losing the amount of money due to defeat is not comparable to the amount of money they have earned through winning.

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December 04, 2023, 02:39:48 PM
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I think what you say is a normal part of things, especially from the content of what you say in this thread. because after all, every gambler will involve emotions in every gaming session. Likewise with the expressions of every gambler, when experiencing a losing session. That feeling of disappointment will always be there, or be present, due to many factors that cause it. and it is from this factor that we can judge ourselves, or know what we are really looking for from gambling. There are important lessons that can actually be learned, but it all depends on each gambler.

If you expect $10 from your gambling, to win or double it, let alone get the jackpot. then you will often experience situations like the one you said like a cycle. I am well aware and know that it is very natural to hope to win in our gambling sessions. but if our mindset is not changed, this will not be a pleasure. No matter how small the loss in gambling, you still feel the same way. The point is that we treat gambling like fun, after all the current concept is that gambling is part of risky entertainment. set aside a budget that you can afford to lose, if you win it is a bonus for you, if you lose, stop and do other activities. That way, we won't overthink what we do from our gambling session. However, if the idea is to always hope to double your winnings. someone will have difficulty getting rid of their problems, as you said in this thread. there is no other way, but just enjoy it. stop, when it's no longer fun.

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December 04, 2023, 03:13:42 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

Are you referring to streamers that losing big time on gambling because they are just doing their job in exchange for their pay. They only lose their money for gambling but they earn constantly through referrals and casino partnerships. Most of the streamer reactions are fake and they are just doing a good job by portraying emotional distress when lose.

I rarely read or watch any topic related to gambling because we personally don’t care if other lose since gambling games is designed for the house to win which means most of the gamblers is destined to lose or else casino will be a non profitable business.

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December 04, 2023, 03:35:55 PM
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They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
This is an example of ''Misery loves company".

A gambler who looses and compares his losses to the losses of another gambler is only trying to find consolation by fooling themselves. If there is a chance that he is better than the other gambler who has lost more, it is only when they are both in the same financial level, and earn around same amount. For another gambler who earns more, and has lost more than you who earns less and have lost less, you are not the same.

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December 04, 2023, 03:38:32 PM
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If we take gambling outside what it should be, then we may run into problems, gambilng should be for fun and not a money-making venture, and any gambler who has such a mentality on gambling will only lose too quickly in the long run since you have to understand that, the more you play, the higher your chances of losing more.

So continuing in whatever direction may lead to losses and much more than that it consumes alot of money and time which will ultimately affect the gambler's mindset in the long run which could result in a possible case of gambling addiction.
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December 04, 2023, 04:01:22 PM
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Gamblers that want to make money will see money lost as losses. Gamblers that are having fun while gambling will see losses as nothing.

If I am gambling, it is just like I am wasting money on bear while paying for my friends to drink with me, but the fun I have and the good moment made it not as a loss. I see gambling this way.

If a friend is letting you know how he loss,  always try to encourage him and tell him not to be using the amount of money he can not afford to lose to bet. He should not see gambling as a way of making money.
The average person who counts their losses is a gambler who is looking to profit from their gambling, you can't go wrong with that argument from this perspective of a gambler comparing his losses or gains to other gamblers.

Again we see that many people make gambling as a place to make money, it is a mistake that will continue, and the scheme will eventually catch up with their losses so that they do not realize they are addicted to such a mindset.
I really regret this kind of thing, but it is their right, so I just laugh when they are told but reject the truth. Cheesy

I don't deny it, I always seek to win, it's something that goes in me, if it were me I would win all the time if I had a lot of money, because that's how I would try and try, that is if I were a millionaire, because millionaires don't mind losing a lot of money, they have everything insured, that's why when we are in a casino those of us who are not millionaires have to take good care of our money and play in a very measured way because we cannot invent if we have little money, that is something logical, I am not capable of spending all my money in a casino, because I have expenses, and those expenses do not tell me that later, but at once, I must pay them no matter what.

In uinc there is no control of our money by anyone, only by us and even if I have the hunch of winning and I already have my money there, I can't spend more than I should, because if I spend it all, I don't want to go looking for people to lend me money, just because I got carried away by my excitement.

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December 04, 2023, 04:36:25 PM
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In the same way I console myself, when I lose gambling, if I see someone else on the same board losing more than me or another friend of mine losing more than me, I compare myself to them and console myself that I am enough. I lost less than others. These things not only help us forget about our own losses but they also harm us because they do not allow us to repent of our gambling losses. and later on we make the same mistake and lose the gamble. So I think it is better to avoid these activities

Yea, this happens a lot  but how we interpret these situations matter a lot. Many gamblers will see it as a good reason to stop mourning over their losses since other gamblers are in more severe pain than they are, but this is wrong.  Other people's losses should not in anyway motivate us to gamble carelessly,  rather,  it should be telling us that one day, we might end up like that guy over there if we do not gamble responsibly .


There is no friend in gambling, every stake is weighed according to what options that it is opened for.
Every gambler should take full responsibility of his own errors in gambling. Consoling oneself with the predicament of the next gambler will not solve any problem,  rather it will trick one into playing more until it's too late. Gambling is fun if played well.

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December 04, 2023, 05:04:51 PM
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Where they really prepared their heart for more loose? If yes then you won't be that angry whenever someone out there experience lost in gambling because let assumed they knew the game while they are gambling. Whomever that bears that in mind won't always chase after their lost rather will strive more to secure a winning for himself with all technicalities, I think some people are becoming to used with their lost and they are always optimistic about their results that possibly a day to come they will make back all their lost.
If you stake an amount that you can afford to comfortably lose, you won't have any problem as long as gambling is concerned,  where the problems lies is when a gambler tries to stake high amount with the intention of winning a big reward and also placing his financial desires on the bets.

This way greed becomes the major factor that drives the gambler's decisions and also a lot of other factors that can negatively impact the outcome of the games,  such as chasing a particular directions e.g chasing loses,  by trying to recover from lost.

Or making more bets just to chase winnings this time you get to overstress your luck by trying to win more and more.
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Where they really prepared their heart for more loose? If yes then you won't be that angry whenever someone out there experience lost in gambling because let assumed they knew the game while they are gambling. Whomever that bears that in mind won't always chase after their lost rather will strive more to secure a winning for himself with all technicalities, I think some people are becoming to used with their lost and they are always optimistic about their results that possibly a day to come they will make back all their lost.
If you stake an amount that you can afford to comfortably lose, you won't have any problem as long as gambling is concerned,  where the problems lies is when a gambler tries to stake high amount with the intention of winning a big reward and also placing his financial desires on the bets.

This way greed becomes the major factor that drives the gambler's decisions and also a lot of other factors that can negatively impact the outcome of the games,  such as chasing a particular directions e.g chasing loses,  by trying to recover from lost.

Or making more bets just to chase winnings this time you get to overstress your luck by trying to win more and more.

I agreed with what you said
the truth is that gamblers are not taking gambling as it was said let say for instance people plays casino to ease stress or even watch matches for fun right? Yes at the cost of doing that one may decides to spare some funds to pass time with while playing game or watching games as well at the point of doing this when the said game plays by luck then one benefits from the process but, what i understood most times from gamer or gamblers is that they often tends to put their life in gambling where by they build a higher hope probability of winning something that could change their life by betting with huge amounts. Whenever the games didn't go as planned they all starts panicking for their lost.

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Sometimes you see as far as you think the horizon is, but that vision is a part of what you understand.

Losses when you are a professional or even an advanced recreational player, that is, sone who understands the concepts of betting, are, as an accounting graduate would say, they go to the loss column, nothing more.

There are players who lose $50 thousand for example at a certain moment but it does not affect them because they understand that it is a monetary range that must exist, it does not hurt them any less to lose $100, they are, as they would say, "work chips", professional players suffer more from a defeat in itself than the loss of money, at least that is what happens in poker.


In fact, the phrase "I lost doing the right thing..." is common, it is not about feelings, sympathy, the gambling game is something cold, arrogant, the support of someone in your "pain" does not make it easier for you. ", you just keep going, losing is a significant event that has to have an action on your part as a response, and the simplest is to keep playing, it doesn't matter if you lose $100 or $1000, if you are doing things right, losing $1 will It has to affect the same as losing $1000 and in that emotional dimension, it will not matter to you whether someone offers you sympathy or not for it.

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December 04, 2023, 10:17:34 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning.

No body gives a gambler a consolidated winning no matter the losses they have encountered and that is why we have to face every gamble like it is suppose to, bet as you can afford and you can move on in peace if you lose.There is no friend in gambling, every stake is weighed according to what options that it is opened for.

That might be an area of improvement for online gambling casinos, don't you think? Give the gambler who just lost something small back, as a token of customer appreciation and I think it will help a lot, because some of the weight of the guilt from losing can be lifted from that poor gambler. Not all of it, of course. But a small portion will let him feel better than before.

Perhaps it does not even need to be of monetary nature.
Whats been mentioned last could make gamblers in loss to have a positive move. When one had lost in gambling, automatically they feel low. Particularly when they had gambled beyond their limits or gambled with the money that had been kept aside for something very important. In such situation someone to hear them is a consolation. When it comes to gambling we don't loss by intention, it is human nature wanting big. They never think of the consequences, later used to feel bad for their activities.

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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

Sweet lemoning is part of a human nature that enables him to comfort himself by comparing his losses to the greater losses of others.  It is true that misery loves company as one of the earlier replies stated, the attitude of comforting oneself by thinking of others more devastating losses is a defense mechanism in order for the gambler or a person not to regret his losses.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

I think gamblers often lose their gambling budgets not because they see others losing more but rather because they fail to control themselves when engaging in gambling activities.

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December 05, 2023, 02:09:55 AM
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Gamblers that want to make money will see money lost as losses. Gamblers that are having fun while gambling will see losses as nothing.

If I am gambling, it is just like I am wasting money on bear while paying for my friends to drink with me, but the fun I have and the good moment made it not as a loss. I see gambling this way.

If a friend is letting you know how he loss,  always try to encourage him and tell him not to be using the amount of money he can not afford to lose to bet. He should not see gambling as a way of making money.
The average person who counts their losses is a gambler who is looking to profit from their gambling, you can't go wrong with that argument from this perspective of a gambler comparing his losses or gains to other gamblers.

Again we see that many people make gambling as a place to make money, it is a mistake that will continue, and the scheme will eventually catch up with their losses so that they do not realize they are addicted to such a mindset.
I really regret this kind of thing, but it is their right, so I just laugh when they are told but reject the truth. Cheesy

In my opinion, do not see or remember the losses that have occurred with gambling,  because before gambling they should know that gambling is great, of course what is obtained is defeat not victory. And if they are like that,  it's better not to gamble if only to remember the losses that have occurred, because gambling is only for entertainment not to make money primarily.

Yes you are right, they are trapped by their own minds that make them addicted to gambling because of the wrong mindset by making gambling a place to make money. Of course this is not true, but the wrong mindset that to make money they should work not gamble, it is not recommended that gambling be used as a place to make money if it is to spend money that is true hahha.

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December 05, 2023, 02:33:34 AM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.
Anyone who has to accept the fact that they have experienced major defeat that is more than they can accept will definitely look so disappointed that they will even be anxious and have an expression full of regret, but that is the consequence of their actions.
Regretting excessively and drowning in disappointment because of losing will not change anything and cannot return what has been lost, so the best thing is to give them advice and direct them to better path.
People like that, if left alone, can do stupid things like try to recover from losses.

But what is called victory of condolence?
And it actually good if they experience defeat because they can learn from the defeat.
Never consider defeat as truly detrimental failure because without experiencing something like that, I sure they will continue to do careless things, they will gamble without knowing time and financial limits.

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This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.
Taking into account wealth and active income will be useful for gamblers who have no financial restrictions, when they know everything they will be able to think and try to set budget that is not close to the amount of their income.
Several times I have said that the impact of gambling is good or bad and losses and profits depend on us in managing and having an approach when gambling so whatever it is we have to be ready to accept it and we are the ones who decide.

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December 05, 2023, 02:42:18 AM
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Gamblers that want to make money will see money lost as losses. Gamblers that are having fun while gambling will see losses as nothing.

If I am gambling, it is just like I am wasting money on bear while paying for my friends to drink with me, but the fun I have and the good moment made it not as a loss. I see gambling this way.

If a friend is letting you know how he loss,  always try to encourage him and tell him not to be using the amount of money he can not afford to lose to bet. He should not see gambling as a way of making money.
The average person who counts their losses is a gambler who is looking to profit from their gambling, you can't go wrong with that argument from this perspective of a gambler comparing his losses or gains to other gamblers.

Again we see that many people make gambling as a place to make money, it is a mistake that will continue, and the scheme will eventually catch up with their losses so that they do not realize they are addicted to such a mindset.
I really regret this kind of thing, but it is their right, so I just laugh when they are told but reject the truth. Cheesy

In my opinion, do not see or remember the losses that have occurred with gambling,  because before gambling they should know that gambling is great, of course what is obtained is defeat not victory. And if they are like that,  it's better not to gamble if only to remember the losses that have occurred, because gambling is only for entertainment not to make money primarily.
we often see or read that Gambling is for fun and not to make money , but are you a gambler?
if yes then have you not expect to win when you gamble , or you are just nothing but commenting that does not
really understand what gambling is all about. because for how many years that people keeps calling gambling for
entertainment but does not really gamble in regular basis meaning they dont know what is gambling and for what really is.
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Yes you are right, they are trapped by their own minds that make them addicted to gambling because of the wrong mindset by making gambling a place to make money. Of course this is not true, but the wrong mindset that to make money they should work not gamble, it is not recommended that gambling be used as a place to make money if it is to spend money that is true hahha.
I wish some day you will meet a person that makes a living using gambling aside from those
casino employees that literally paid in gambling instead those gambling experts that only gamble and making money.

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December 05, 2023, 02:52:52 AM
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To many sad stories we can read here but if they just came to the point that they are so real on what they are expecting on a gambling site for sure they would never encounter to get a bankrupt or asking some sort of return for the bets they made.
When the truth remains to be bittered and could be acknowledged, then it is a healing point and a wall to lean on at your depressed and oppression points.
In the gambling field, everyone can never be happy and everyone can't be sad at the same time.
Only gambling steamers lives by spreading sugarcoated speculations all aimed to attract the betting casino with gamblers on board. Every gamblers are to be ready that have thought in my that the bet is lost already even before a stake.
This is  so to set yourself with a consolidated awareness Incase one is lost.
@ arwin100, I hope it doesn't sound horrible to you because gambling is purely survival of the fittest.

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December 05, 2023, 07:57:32 AM
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I would say that most gamblers who lose a lot of money are not very good at mathematics. Not just to the point of not understanding concepts like House Edge, but at a more basic level, like not even knowing what their net worth is, as the OP comments. If we think about where the lottery sells more or where there are more betting houses, we see that it coincides not only with people who have less knowledge in general, but who are more needy, unfortunately, and resort to gambling as a quick way of escape (almost always unsuccessful).

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December 05, 2023, 08:58:42 AM
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That’s why we gamblers need a kill switch when our loses go above our budget.
Even at the virtue of millions skill switch when loses above a budget, it is definitely meant that without being in control of your gambling budgets, it is no even going to be a $1,000,000 that would be satisfy your level os stakes unless you are on the winning side.
This is all about betting responsibly and taking charge of your emotions especially at your list times else $1 is enough to count a huge lost supposing you walk away so as one time lost is also enough lost period of time you walk away and not loosing on a multiple folds simply because you have all chances to bet more.

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