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December 04, 2023, 10:11:53 AM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

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December 04, 2023, 10:22:17 AM
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Gamblers that want to make money will see money lost as losses. Gamblers that are having fun while gambling will see losses as nothing.

If I am gambling, it is just like I am wasting money on bear while paying for my friends to drink with me, but the fun I have and the good moment made it not as a loss. I see gambling this way.

If a friend is letting you know how he loss,  always try to encourage him and tell him not to be using the amount of money he can not afford to lose to bet. He should not see gambling as a way of making money.

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December 04, 2023, 10:25:24 AM
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Actually our financial level are not same and losses among gamblers shouldn't be compared in terms of we trying to be or showing sympathy. If we wish to show sympathy we should just show it and not doing so based on comparison of the amount a gambler had lost to gambling.

I could be showing sympathy to someone that had lost $10k to gambling not considering another that have lost just $1k, unknowingly to me the guy with the $1k loss was the last cash in his possession home and abroad whereas the fellow that had lost a $10k has so much in abundance in his wallet savings.

In all we do as gamblers we should resist the urge of gambling amount of cash we can't afford to lose, calculate your income percentage that you can affordably spend on gambling and stick to it to avoid seeking sympathy from others.

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December 04, 2023, 10:29:20 AM
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Don’t be too caught up with some of the losses you see people take online. Many of those gamblers are paid to do what they do and their emotions aren’t always genuine. The ones that are and I’m sure there are plenty of them are likely heartbreaking to see, but that’s why people stream their gambling efforts, so they can receive gifts from those that watch.

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December 04, 2023, 10:40:46 AM
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Where they really prepared their heart for more loose? If yes then you won't be that angry whenever someone out there experience lost in gambling because let assumed they knew the game while they are gambling. Whomever that bears that in mind won't always chase after their lost rather will strive more to secure a winning for himself with all technicalities, I think some people are becoming to used with their lost and they are always optimistic about their results that possibly a day to come they will make back all their lost.

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December 04, 2023, 10:42:02 AM
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Don’t be too caught up with some of the losses you see people take online. Many of those gamblers are paid to do what they do and their emotions aren’t always genuine. The ones that are and I’m sure there are plenty of them are likely heartbreaking to see, but that’s why people stream their gambling efforts, so they can receive gifts from those that watch.

It can be difficult not to empathize with them, though. At least for me, it is kind of difficult to distinguish a real gambler who has lost a significant amount from other who is only faking it all for show.
Even if we assume most of them are being paid or are expected to by paid for streaming their gambling sessions, as far as I understand, part of their wager is still money which belongs to them (while other part is provided by the casino, to prolong the session).
We could even make a case for those streamers who do not have sponsorships yet and start gambling with their own funds, it gotta be heartbreaking to see who one of those get their balance go away from their casino wallet, as trey try to make a name on the internet by themselves.

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December 04, 2023, 10:44:01 AM
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OP, this topic does not belong here, you should move it to gambling discussion.

Anyone that feels he has lost heavily and is showing that on his face should quit gambling because he can't control his gambling activities, and this also shows that the person has used more than the amount that he can afford to loose to gamble. No matter how small that amount is, if it is going to make you look pale or in a bad mood, it means that amount is too big for you to gamble with.

Gambling should be seen as fun and not for profit and anyone that knows this, will live a healthy gambling life. I don't normally have sympathy for anyone that have lost big because it was an act of greed that led them to such big loss and nobody needs to give them any money due to sympathy. Instead you should advice them on how to be a responsible gambler and let them not see gamble as a get rich quick scheme.

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December 04, 2023, 10:52:30 AM
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That’s why we gamblers need a kill switch when our loses go above our budget. That can come only with one thing and that’s: self control. We can not deny the fact that most of the gamblers who are losing money are actually losing their heads to those red lines. We can not expect high returns everytime we gamble online, not everyday is ours. If we are losing then someone is winning and vice versa is also true. The only thing that can make use good gambler is to self aware about the limits. I have mentioned this many times, I am usually closing the Website immediately if I’m getting losses in a long streak. I know that’s the only exit strategy when we work online. More than that it is always important to keep only fixed amount of money on casinos while starting a gameplay. This helps to restrict (a little) to go for second round if we have lost it all.
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December 04, 2023, 10:52:59 AM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is the first time I encountered the word condolence winning, winning is winning regardless of whether you're coming from huge losses if you mean consoling them because of their losses, there is no need for that, gamblers should know beforehand that they can lose their whole bankroll and they should know how to address this beforehand, if you're not comfortable with your losses then don't gamble you should not put yourself in a position that you look pitiful.
Controlling your bankroll needs insight and planning, you don't play and don't care about your bankroll, this is where trying to recover losses mindset starts.

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December 04, 2023, 11:07:59 AM
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Don’t be too caught up with some of the losses you see people take online. Many of those gamblers are paid to do what they do and their emotions aren’t always genuine.
No gamblers can be given money to say that he had huge losses online. Until something bad happened would be when some people will believe. Someone that lost money and fainted but woke up in a hospital, or someone that killed himself because he lost money to gambling. Those are not fake. The probability of taking good news about who won in gambling is higher than the probability of who loss.

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December 04, 2023, 11:23:39 AM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.
Unfortunately, the activity of gambling is indifferent to the outcome of those who engage in it. But since we are all humans with emotions and feelings, a loss is a loss irrespective of how big or small it is. We would unconsciously pick one of the hundreds of emotions available to the human biology to display.


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They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
The lies we say to ourselves to feel better. Only a beginner gambler does this. An experienced gambler takes it in his strides and doesn't compare losses to feel great about their own loss.

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December 04, 2023, 11:51:17 AM
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My gambling losses is not even close to something I will start feeling regretful about, I don't create a room for this, not in my head or mind, I am always cautious with gambling and whatever comes my way is already prepared for, so I will never risk a lot of money on gambling, you will easily end up with empty bankroll.

You need to know how much you are making per week or per month and stick to a certain amount only for gambling, but don't forget that you will probably lose the money, that's the most guaranteed outcome when you are gambling, so you will be a stupid person if you risk more than you are ready to lose, because you should know better.

I have gotten past having sympathy for gamblers that lose money, I might sound like a wicked person but it's foolish of you to want to make money doing nothing and you believe it will be that easy, that's why choosing gambling as source of income is a wrong thing to do.

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December 04, 2023, 11:51:34 AM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning.

No body gives a gambler a consolidated winning no matter the losses they have encountered and that is why we have to face every gamble like it is suppose to, bet as you can afford and you can move on in peace if you lose.There is no friend in gambling, every stake is weighed according to what options that it is opened for.

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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
I get exactly what you're saying. It's really sad to see how losing at gaming can affect a person's emotions. Before they gamble in any way, everyone needs to make clear budgets and know how much money they can spend. Sharing events like yours helps us remember how important it is to play games responsibly. Let's help each other stay balanced and make thoughtful choices.

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December 04, 2023, 11:56:16 AM
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When you entered gambling (in your own decision and willingly not by force) then you should
know that your funds is already in the hand of bankers/Owners and the only way you can take those from them
is to be friend with luck in which only comes in one out of thousand players , meaning while you are winning there
are thousand gamblers that losing and vise versa when you are at losing situation, I am afraid that people that
does not understand gambling even before he entered are going to nowhere but either complete loser or
addicted gambler.
Don’t be too caught up with some of the losses you see people take online. Many of those gamblers are paid to do what they do and their emotions aren’t always genuine.
No gamblers can be given money to say that he had huge losses online. Until something bad happened would be when some people will believe. Someone that lost money and fainted but woke up in a hospital, or someone that killed himself because he lost money to gambling. Those are not fake. The probability of taking good news about who won in gambling is higher than the probability of who loss.
there are at some point and those are the gamblers that still have respect in life and in people
who loves them. and those gamblers that knows they still have family they can lean  on.

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December 04, 2023, 12:12:30 PM
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Condolence winning? Is it just a mistake or is it a rebate of sorts after losing a specific amount? Cause that's just not how it works. Sure, we can emphasize since a lot of us gamblers lost, rather unlikely for someone to actually not lose but hoping for some sort of reward for losing? Now that's something we'd all want now, don't we? Well that's just some people wanting pity, not really worth most of the time, can spare a bit but not too much ig, especially if you consider how gambling is and how most people should be educated by how it goes.

On a side note, this topic is more on Gambling Discussion rather than here, OP.

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December 04, 2023, 12:40:56 PM
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I am honestly struggling to make any sense out of all that op have said, but on the little I was able to understand, I will say that outcomes in gambling (most especially on the losing side) is like the realities of life, a teacher who does not forgive, the sooner you learn what it's teaching you, the better for you.

If we search through this forum, and in other places online, we did find a lot of really pathetic and sorrowful stories patterning to gamblers who went overboard with their crave for winnings, and the end turned out really disastrous for them, while some are still OK and gambling today, some could not survive it as either they committed suicide, or fell ill out of the shock and died.
This is why responsible gambling is a paramount habit we must practice in our gambling activities, for nothing else but our own good.


By the way, please move this thread to the gambling discussion board.

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December 04, 2023, 01:12:06 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.



Expect that they became more frustrated especially if they are losing to much on what they are playing and we can see based on their expression that they are really pissed of to what currently happening in their bets. But I don't know if there's something like that a condolence winning as form of rebate on what they are experiencing. If there's something like that exist then I think that high rollers who lose a lot deserve that. But for small gamblers maybe casino will not allow to give it to them.

To many sad stories we can read here but if they just came to the point that they are so real on what they are expecting on a gambling site for sure they would never encounter to get a bankrupt or asking some sort of return for the bets they made.

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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning.

No body gives a gambler a consolidated winning no matter the losses they have encountered and that is why we have to face every gamble like it is suppose to, bet as you can afford and you can move on in peace if you lose.There is no friend in gambling, every stake is weighed according to what options that it is opened for.

That might be an area of improvement for online gambling casinos, don't you think? Give the gambler who just lost something small back, as a token of customer appreciation and I think it will help a lot, because some of the weight of the guilt from losing can be lifted from that poor gambler. Not all of it, of course. But a small portion will let him feel better than before.

Perhaps it does not even need to be of monetary nature.

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December 04, 2023, 01:29:43 PM
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This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.
Complacent, hypnotized, losing identity, without real calculations, etc., that is what some gamblers often feel, sometimes we are not aware of the money and losses we have lost in the gambling arena, just like those who place lottery bets in the ratio of 5/1, five losses and one win, (1) makes them excited.

Actually, we don't need to be sympathetic to those who lose, we should control and ask ourselves what we have gained while we have been involved in the world of gambling, whether we will be aware that during gambling, there is a real win or loss to ourselves.

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December 04, 2023, 01:39:54 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
In the same way I console myself, when I lose gambling, if I see someone else on the same board losing more than me or another friend of mine losing more than me, I compare myself to them and console myself that I am enough. I lost less than others. These things not only help us forget about our own losses but they also harm us because they do not allow us to repent of our gambling losses. and later on we make the same mistake and lose the gamble. So I think it is better to avoid these activities

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Gamblers that want to make money will see money lost as losses. Gamblers that are having fun while gambling will see losses as nothing.

If I am gambling, it is just like I am wasting money on bear while paying for my friends to drink with me, but the fun I have and the good moment made it not as a loss. I see gambling this way.

If a friend is letting you know how he loss,  always try to encourage him and tell him not to be using the amount of money he can not afford to lose to bet. He should not see gambling as a way of making money.
The average person who counts their losses is a gambler who is looking to profit from their gambling, you can't go wrong with that argument from this perspective of a gambler comparing his losses or gains to other gamblers.

Again we see that many people make gambling as a place to make money, it is a mistake that will continue, and the scheme will eventually catch up with their losses so that they do not realize they are addicted to such a mindset.
I really regret this kind of thing, but it is their right, so I just laugh when they are told but reject the truth. Cheesy

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December 04, 2023, 01:41:53 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

They are even willing to spend a lot of time every day in the hope of winning at gambling. The look on their faces when they are losing is quite sad to see, causing concern for those of us who see it. We shouldn't have to think like that when we see their sad faces due to losing at gambling because they have experienced large amounts of money earned from gambling.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

This is what is meant by why we don't need to have sympathy for them, because each of them has personally gone through various conditions in the gambling games they play.
They have felt that the number of wins is large or medium. It is their turn to experience continuous defeat, they realize that losing the amount of money due to defeat is not comparable to the amount of money they have earned through winning.

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December 04, 2023, 02:39:48 PM
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I think what you say is a normal part of things, especially from the content of what you say in this thread. because after all, every gambler will involve emotions in every gaming session. Likewise with the expressions of every gambler, when experiencing a losing session. That feeling of disappointment will always be there, or be present, due to many factors that cause it. and it is from this factor that we can judge ourselves, or know what we are really looking for from gambling. There are important lessons that can actually be learned, but it all depends on each gambler.

If you expect $10 from your gambling, to win or double it, let alone get the jackpot. then you will often experience situations like the one you said like a cycle. I am well aware and know that it is very natural to hope to win in our gambling sessions. but if our mindset is not changed, this will not be a pleasure. No matter how small the loss in gambling, you still feel the same way. The point is that we treat gambling like fun, after all the current concept is that gambling is part of risky entertainment. set aside a budget that you can afford to lose, if you win it is a bonus for you, if you lose, stop and do other activities. That way, we won't overthink what we do from our gambling session. However, if the idea is to always hope to double your winnings. someone will have difficulty getting rid of their problems, as you said in this thread. there is no other way, but just enjoy it. stop, when it's no longer fun.

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December 04, 2023, 03:13:42 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

Are you referring to streamers that losing big time on gambling because they are just doing their job in exchange for their pay. They only lose their money for gambling but they earn constantly through referrals and casino partnerships. Most of the streamer reactions are fake and they are just doing a good job by portraying emotional distress when lose.

I rarely read or watch any topic related to gambling because we personally don’t care if other lose since gambling games is designed for the house to win which means most of the gamblers is destined to lose or else casino will be a non profitable business.

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December 04, 2023, 03:35:55 PM
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They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
This is an example of ''Misery loves company".

A gambler who looses and compares his losses to the losses of another gambler is only trying to find consolation by fooling themselves. If there is a chance that he is better than the other gambler who has lost more, it is only when they are both in the same financial level, and earn around same amount. For another gambler who earns more, and has lost more than you who earns less and have lost less, you are not the same.

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December 04, 2023, 03:38:32 PM
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If we take gambling outside what it should be, then we may run into problems, gambilng should be for fun and not a money-making venture, and any gambler who has such a mentality on gambling will only lose too quickly in the long run since you have to understand that, the more you play, the higher your chances of losing more.

So continuing in whatever direction may lead to losses and much more than that it consumes alot of money and time which will ultimately affect the gambler's mindset in the long run which could result in a possible case of gambling addiction.
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Gamblers that want to make money will see money lost as losses. Gamblers that are having fun while gambling will see losses as nothing.

If I am gambling, it is just like I am wasting money on bear while paying for my friends to drink with me, but the fun I have and the good moment made it not as a loss. I see gambling this way.

If a friend is letting you know how he loss,  always try to encourage him and tell him not to be using the amount of money he can not afford to lose to bet. He should not see gambling as a way of making money.
The average person who counts their losses is a gambler who is looking to profit from their gambling, you can't go wrong with that argument from this perspective of a gambler comparing his losses or gains to other gamblers.

Again we see that many people make gambling as a place to make money, it is a mistake that will continue, and the scheme will eventually catch up with their losses so that they do not realize they are addicted to such a mindset.
I really regret this kind of thing, but it is their right, so I just laugh when they are told but reject the truth. Cheesy

I don't deny it, I always seek to win, it's something that goes in me, if it were me I would win all the time if I had a lot of money, because that's how I would try and try, that is if I were a millionaire, because millionaires don't mind losing a lot of money, they have everything insured, that's why when we are in a casino those of us who are not millionaires have to take good care of our money and play in a very measured way because we cannot invent if we have little money, that is something logical, I am not capable of spending all my money in a casino, because I have expenses, and those expenses do not tell me that later, but at once, I must pay them no matter what.

In uinc there is no control of our money by anyone, only by us and even if I have the hunch of winning and I already have my money there, I can't spend more than I should, because if I spend it all, I don't want to go looking for people to lend me money, just because I got carried away by my excitement.

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December 04, 2023, 04:36:25 PM
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In the same way I console myself, when I lose gambling, if I see someone else on the same board losing more than me or another friend of mine losing more than me, I compare myself to them and console myself that I am enough. I lost less than others. These things not only help us forget about our own losses but they also harm us because they do not allow us to repent of our gambling losses. and later on we make the same mistake and lose the gamble. So I think it is better to avoid these activities

Yea, this happens a lot  but how we interpret these situations matter a lot. Many gamblers will see it as a good reason to stop mourning over their losses since other gamblers are in more severe pain than they are, but this is wrong.  Other people's losses should not in anyway motivate us to gamble carelessly,  rather,  it should be telling us that one day, we might end up like that guy over there if we do not gamble responsibly .


There is no friend in gambling, every stake is weighed according to what options that it is opened for.
Every gambler should take full responsibility of his own errors in gambling. Consoling oneself with the predicament of the next gambler will not solve any problem,  rather it will trick one into playing more until it's too late. Gambling is fun if played well.

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Where they really prepared their heart for more loose? If yes then you won't be that angry whenever someone out there experience lost in gambling because let assumed they knew the game while they are gambling. Whomever that bears that in mind won't always chase after their lost rather will strive more to secure a winning for himself with all technicalities, I think some people are becoming to used with their lost and they are always optimistic about their results that possibly a day to come they will make back all their lost.
If you stake an amount that you can afford to comfortably lose, you won't have any problem as long as gambling is concerned,  where the problems lies is when a gambler tries to stake high amount with the intention of winning a big reward and also placing his financial desires on the bets.

This way greed becomes the major factor that drives the gambler's decisions and also a lot of other factors that can negatively impact the outcome of the games,  such as chasing a particular directions e.g chasing loses,  by trying to recover from lost.

Or making more bets just to chase winnings this time you get to overstress your luck by trying to win more and more.
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December 04, 2023, 07:46:38 PM
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Where they really prepared their heart for more loose? If yes then you won't be that angry whenever someone out there experience lost in gambling because let assumed they knew the game while they are gambling. Whomever that bears that in mind won't always chase after their lost rather will strive more to secure a winning for himself with all technicalities, I think some people are becoming to used with their lost and they are always optimistic about their results that possibly a day to come they will make back all their lost.
If you stake an amount that you can afford to comfortably lose, you won't have any problem as long as gambling is concerned,  where the problems lies is when a gambler tries to stake high amount with the intention of winning a big reward and also placing his financial desires on the bets.

This way greed becomes the major factor that drives the gambler's decisions and also a lot of other factors that can negatively impact the outcome of the games,  such as chasing a particular directions e.g chasing loses,  by trying to recover from lost.

Or making more bets just to chase winnings this time you get to overstress your luck by trying to win more and more.

I agreed with what you said
the truth is that gamblers are not taking gambling as it was said let say for instance people plays casino to ease stress or even watch matches for fun right? Yes at the cost of doing that one may decides to spare some funds to pass time with while playing game or watching games as well at the point of doing this when the said game plays by luck then one benefits from the process but, what i understood most times from gamer or gamblers is that they often tends to put their life in gambling where by they build a higher hope probability of winning something that could change their life by betting with huge amounts. Whenever the games didn't go as planned they all starts panicking for their lost.

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Sometimes you see as far as you think the horizon is, but that vision is a part of what you understand.

Losses when you are a professional or even an advanced recreational player, that is, sone who understands the concepts of betting, are, as an accounting graduate would say, they go to the loss column, nothing more.

There are players who lose $50 thousand for example at a certain moment but it does not affect them because they understand that it is a monetary range that must exist, it does not hurt them any less to lose $100, they are, as they would say, "work chips", professional players suffer more from a defeat in itself than the loss of money, at least that is what happens in poker.


In fact, the phrase "I lost doing the right thing..." is common, it is not about feelings, sympathy, the gambling game is something cold, arrogant, the support of someone in your "pain" does not make it easier for you. ", you just keep going, losing is a significant event that has to have an action on your part as a response, and the simplest is to keep playing, it doesn't matter if you lose $100 or $1000, if you are doing things right, losing $1 will It has to affect the same as losing $1000 and in that emotional dimension, it will not matter to you whether someone offers you sympathy or not for it.

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December 04, 2023, 10:17:34 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning.

No body gives a gambler a consolidated winning no matter the losses they have encountered and that is why we have to face every gamble like it is suppose to, bet as you can afford and you can move on in peace if you lose.There is no friend in gambling, every stake is weighed according to what options that it is opened for.

That might be an area of improvement for online gambling casinos, don't you think? Give the gambler who just lost something small back, as a token of customer appreciation and I think it will help a lot, because some of the weight of the guilt from losing can be lifted from that poor gambler. Not all of it, of course. But a small portion will let him feel better than before.

Perhaps it does not even need to be of monetary nature.
Whats been mentioned last could make gamblers in loss to have a positive move. When one had lost in gambling, automatically they feel low. Particularly when they had gambled beyond their limits or gambled with the money that had been kept aside for something very important. In such situation someone to hear them is a consolation. When it comes to gambling we don't loss by intention, it is human nature wanting big. They never think of the consequences, later used to feel bad for their activities.

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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

Sweet lemoning is part of a human nature that enables him to comfort himself by comparing his losses to the greater losses of others.  It is true that misery loves company as one of the earlier replies stated, the attitude of comforting oneself by thinking of others more devastating losses is a defense mechanism in order for the gambler or a person not to regret his losses.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

I think gamblers often lose their gambling budgets not because they see others losing more but rather because they fail to control themselves when engaging in gambling activities.

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December 05, 2023, 02:09:55 AM
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Gamblers that want to make money will see money lost as losses. Gamblers that are having fun while gambling will see losses as nothing.

If I am gambling, it is just like I am wasting money on bear while paying for my friends to drink with me, but the fun I have and the good moment made it not as a loss. I see gambling this way.

If a friend is letting you know how he loss,  always try to encourage him and tell him not to be using the amount of money he can not afford to lose to bet. He should not see gambling as a way of making money.
The average person who counts their losses is a gambler who is looking to profit from their gambling, you can't go wrong with that argument from this perspective of a gambler comparing his losses or gains to other gamblers.

Again we see that many people make gambling as a place to make money, it is a mistake that will continue, and the scheme will eventually catch up with their losses so that they do not realize they are addicted to such a mindset.
I really regret this kind of thing, but it is their right, so I just laugh when they are told but reject the truth. Cheesy

In my opinion, do not see or remember the losses that have occurred with gambling,  because before gambling they should know that gambling is great, of course what is obtained is defeat not victory. And if they are like that,  it's better not to gamble if only to remember the losses that have occurred, because gambling is only for entertainment not to make money primarily.

Yes you are right, they are trapped by their own minds that make them addicted to gambling because of the wrong mindset by making gambling a place to make money. Of course this is not true, but the wrong mindset that to make money they should work not gamble, it is not recommended that gambling be used as a place to make money if it is to spend money that is true hahha.

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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.
Anyone who has to accept the fact that they have experienced major defeat that is more than they can accept will definitely look so disappointed that they will even be anxious and have an expression full of regret, but that is the consequence of their actions.
Regretting excessively and drowning in disappointment because of losing will not change anything and cannot return what has been lost, so the best thing is to give them advice and direct them to better path.
People like that, if left alone, can do stupid things like try to recover from losses.

But what is called victory of condolence?
And it actually good if they experience defeat because they can learn from the defeat.
Never consider defeat as truly detrimental failure because without experiencing something like that, I sure they will continue to do careless things, they will gamble without knowing time and financial limits.

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This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.
Taking into account wealth and active income will be useful for gamblers who have no financial restrictions, when they know everything they will be able to think and try to set budget that is not close to the amount of their income.
Several times I have said that the impact of gambling is good or bad and losses and profits depend on us in managing and having an approach when gambling so whatever it is we have to be ready to accept it and we are the ones who decide.

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December 05, 2023, 02:42:18 AM
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Gamblers that want to make money will see money lost as losses. Gamblers that are having fun while gambling will see losses as nothing.

If I am gambling, it is just like I am wasting money on bear while paying for my friends to drink with me, but the fun I have and the good moment made it not as a loss. I see gambling this way.

If a friend is letting you know how he loss,  always try to encourage him and tell him not to be using the amount of money he can not afford to lose to bet. He should not see gambling as a way of making money.
The average person who counts their losses is a gambler who is looking to profit from their gambling, you can't go wrong with that argument from this perspective of a gambler comparing his losses or gains to other gamblers.

Again we see that many people make gambling as a place to make money, it is a mistake that will continue, and the scheme will eventually catch up with their losses so that they do not realize they are addicted to such a mindset.
I really regret this kind of thing, but it is their right, so I just laugh when they are told but reject the truth. Cheesy

In my opinion, do not see or remember the losses that have occurred with gambling,  because before gambling they should know that gambling is great, of course what is obtained is defeat not victory. And if they are like that,  it's better not to gamble if only to remember the losses that have occurred, because gambling is only for entertainment not to make money primarily.
we often see or read that Gambling is for fun and not to make money , but are you a gambler?
if yes then have you not expect to win when you gamble , or you are just nothing but commenting that does not
really understand what gambling is all about. because for how many years that people keeps calling gambling for
entertainment but does not really gamble in regular basis meaning they dont know what is gambling and for what really is.
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Yes you are right, they are trapped by their own minds that make them addicted to gambling because of the wrong mindset by making gambling a place to make money. Of course this is not true, but the wrong mindset that to make money they should work not gamble, it is not recommended that gambling be used as a place to make money if it is to spend money that is true hahha.
I wish some day you will meet a person that makes a living using gambling aside from those
casino employees that literally paid in gambling instead those gambling experts that only gamble and making money.

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To many sad stories we can read here but if they just came to the point that they are so real on what they are expecting on a gambling site for sure they would never encounter to get a bankrupt or asking some sort of return for the bets they made.
When the truth remains to be bittered and could be acknowledged, then it is a healing point and a wall to lean on at your depressed and oppression points.
In the gambling field, everyone can never be happy and everyone can't be sad at the same time.
Only gambling steamers lives by spreading sugarcoated speculations all aimed to attract the betting casino with gamblers on board. Every gamblers are to be ready that have thought in my that the bet is lost already even before a stake.
This is  so to set yourself with a consolidated awareness Incase one is lost.
@ arwin100, I hope it doesn't sound horrible to you because gambling is purely survival of the fittest.

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December 05, 2023, 07:57:32 AM
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I would say that most gamblers who lose a lot of money are not very good at mathematics. Not just to the point of not understanding concepts like House Edge, but at a more basic level, like not even knowing what their net worth is, as the OP comments. If we think about where the lottery sells more or where there are more betting houses, we see that it coincides not only with people who have less knowledge in general, but who are more needy, unfortunately, and resort to gambling as a quick way of escape (almost always unsuccessful).

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December 05, 2023, 08:58:42 AM
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That’s why we gamblers need a kill switch when our loses go above our budget.
Even at the virtue of millions skill switch when loses above a budget, it is definitely meant that without being in control of your gambling budgets, it is no even going to be a $1,000,000 that would be satisfy your level os stakes unless you are on the winning side.
This is all about betting responsibly and taking charge of your emotions especially at your list times else $1 is enough to count a huge lost supposing you walk away so as one time lost is also enough lost period of time you walk away and not loosing on a multiple folds simply because you have all chances to bet more.

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December 05, 2023, 09:09:14 AM
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Those gamblers lost money because they were into gambling only because of earning money and they weren't doing gambling as a part time entertainment activity. They have lost everything because of their own greed as greed for earning a lot of money in short time often leads to huge losses instead of gains.

I have seen gamblers losing more than $50k per day by putting a lot of money into gambling in hopes that they can multiply their money and enjoy have a lot of multipliers each day. Those type of gamblers are often termed as newbie gamblers or kids who just want to get rich in short time. They don't get rich at all but end up losing everything they own.

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Don't take their losses too seriously, let alone be too empathetic to those who experience losses at gambling, they come to gambling not unconsciously because it is their awareness that they want to gamble, for those who chase victory, they will definitely experience defeat, but it's different when they play. gambling is just for entertainment, I don't think there is any need to empathize because they will just see it as entertainment.

It depends on our point of view, if we look at how when people experience defeat in gambling, many people experience this in gambling in this world. If we empathize with them, what should we do so that they don't gamble with their money? If we really feel empathy for them, that's why it's important to People who know why gambling have to use unused money so they don't think too much about the losses they experience, at least think of it as paying for entertainment when gambling.  Wink

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December 05, 2023, 10:29:16 AM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
They are not computing how much they or others losses but how much they wanted to earn and this is the stupidest idea when you are in gambling because there is no assurance of us to win so better to expect losses and try to enjoy the game.
this is the hardest part but when you made it there? the capacity to leave the table will always yours and will never have comparison to other gamblers.

I agreed with what you said
the truth is that gamblers are not taking gambling as it was said let say for instance people plays casino to ease stress or even watch matches for fun right? Yes at the cost of doing that one may decides to spare some funds to pass time with while playing game or watching games as well at the point of doing this when the said game plays by luck then one benefits from the process but, what i understood most times from gamer or gamblers is that they often tends to put their life in gambling where by they build a higher hope probability of winning something that could change their life by betting with huge amounts.
while it is their first intention , yet eventually while enjoying ? they turn to be addicted and yeah continues the gaming till they lose everything.

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December 05, 2023, 10:37:09 AM
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I have seen such before, a guy who was given some money to deposit in the bank account of his master decide to use it for gambling hoping that he will make money for himself and be able to complete the deposit in the bank account of his master, he lost it all and sat in the front floor of the casino, crying so hard that people start asking what when wrong, that's how I knew about everything, I end up not showing any pity for him because it's clear that he doesn't deserve any sympathy.

I am still surprise how people can be so expecting of gambling, like it's the perfect solution for their lack of money, how will gambling solve your problem honestly? You have not learn a skill in real life, you failed to learn anything that will help you, even if you can't get some degrees you should learn a skill and start making money first, this is the right way.

Gambling is not a solution even if you are consumed by heavy poverty, you will f yourself up even harder and you may probably lose your sense of integrity and principles, gambling is not a solution to financial problem, take it with a mind of spending time to do fun things.

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December 05, 2023, 10:41:24 AM
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I agreed with what you said
the truth is that gamblers are not taking gambling as it was said let say for instance people plays casino to ease stress or even watch matches for fun right? Yes at the cost of doing that one may decides to spare some funds to pass time with while playing game or watching games as well at the point of doing this when the said game plays by luck then one benefits from the process but, what i understood most times from gamer or gamblers is that they often tends to put their life in gambling where by they build a higher hope probability of winning something that could change their life by betting with huge amounts.
while it is their first intention , yet eventually while enjoying ? they turn to be addicted and yeah continues the gaming till they lose everything.
They certainly since is uncontrollable due to how they have positioned their mindset to turn it for a source of living while without knowing that it is having a bad effects on them. Why skipping the enjoyment part of it and focusing on the profit aspect causing one to lose focused knowing too well that gambling is very hard to predicated especially when it turns into addiction.

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December 05, 2023, 12:41:17 PM
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I had already commented on this in a past post that when people don't sit down to think about planning the bills they have to pay and see how much money is left for fun, then when that person plays and loses they will feel pain, and see that even in cases in which a person has a job and a fixed salary and at the end of the month when he receives his salary and pays all the bills and then takes the amount of money destined for fun, and that person gambles with that money destined for fun and loses that money, this person feels pain, even if it is little, he still feels pain losing that money, this happens because if this person has 50$ destined for fun, then maybe only 10$ will be for games and when he loses money in the game

He starts to think that he could have taken the money and done something else for fun and since he no longer has money, so that hurts him. but in the case of people who have businesses, when they pay all the bills and take money to gamble and lose, it doesn't hurt them, because the money they lost today, they recover tomorrow with profits from the business. For example, the guy earns 100$ a day in profit from his business, today he plays with 100$ that he took from his bank account, tomorrow 100$ enters his bank account, coming from profits from his business. This person doesn't feel like losing money and has many other things to enjoy. Unfortunately, people who have financial problems and family problems are the most likely to fall into the misfortune of addictions.

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December 05, 2023, 12:42:05 PM
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So who are you talking about? ==> Paid streamers that are putting up a show with the casinos money.. or the average Joe on the street that believe them and try to simulate their supposed HUGE Jackpot wins and then lose all their money?

Yes, unfortunately the majority of people have to lose for others to win... that is how gambling works. You have a  Sad face when you lose and a  Smiley face when you win.

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December 05, 2023, 01:13:59 PM
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They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
In gambling, losses and the hurting feeling people go through is equal to both who lost 1million and other who lost 1k.
if a person losses 1 millions then obviously he has some type of way or business to earn this much amount to lose.
and a person who earn my working as a employee do not have source of income he has 1k earned by working hard. so if rich gambler losses all his money which is 1million then he will be disappoint as same as person who saved his 1k and lost it all. feelings are same for both.
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December 05, 2023, 02:12:22 PM
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Anyone who is going to join gambling should prepare his heart very well before going there so that he would not have heart attack. Gambling is not for the weak but for the thick skin (brave) ones. In gambling there should be no empathy and there should be no emotion attached to it. Gambling is purely luck and if you have the lucky in that day then you win and if you don't have the lucky then you loss out to the casino. And thais why whenever you visiting the casino side, you are there to try your luck. Yes I also agree with the op that many gamblers did not check their networth before gambling and when they have finished all then they become sympathetically to themselves and that is wrong condolence. You have to pre-calculate your balance before staking.

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December 05, 2023, 02:54:00 PM
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Yes, unfortunately the majority of people have to lose for others to win... that is how gambling works. You have a  Sad face when you lose and a  Smiley face when you win.

That is funny and sarcastic too. Yeah sure from the countenance of a player you should discern if it was a winning or losing when he is done. I usually don't feel sympathetic when a gambler losses because I believe before you go in there for the bet, you already understood what it is and that the pendulum would swing anywhere. This is the reason gamblers need to risk what can still make there face look cool.

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December 05, 2023, 04:32:01 PM
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Are you talking about content creators who gamble either by making videos or live streaming? If yes, then what you see is what they want you to see, which means that whatever you see isn't true all the time and most content creators will probably do that to gain sympathy from their viewers and maybe also to get donations from them since if they make sad faces after losing a certain amount in gambling, those who don't know much about the relationships between gambling platforms and streamers would feel bad for them and might even donate some money.

So, if it's about them, you don't need to feel bad because they barely gamble with their own money but they are playing for the casinos to promote them. However, if you are talking about people you see in real life who might have lost significant amounts in gambling and are depressed because of it, you are right that sometimes you feel that if you had money, you would give them some as compensation for what has happened.

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December 05, 2023, 04:50:42 PM
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Gamblers are relatively safe as long as they do not intend to gain more on gambling. Greed has bad relation with the desire to win in gambling. Those who cannot control greed will lose their money. But I think a gambler should gamble with the intention of losing money. He can manage his gambling healthily when he has a losing attitude. I usually limit my gambling activities depending on bankroll so that I don't need to stop gambling suddenly. To get pleasure from gambling, one must develop a losing attitude.

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December 05, 2023, 04:52:05 PM
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What you stated are facts op. Firstly, some gamblers who lose a shit-ton of money are easily pitied since their lives got affected badly in more ways than one due to not willing to lose in the first place.

Secondly, people who feel down generally get better whenever they see someone doing worse than them.

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December 05, 2023, 04:58:46 PM
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What you stated are facts op. Firstly, some gamblers who lose a shit-ton of money are easily pitied since their lives got affected badly in more ways than one due to not willing to lose in the first place.

Secondly, people who feel down generally get better whenever they see someone doing worse than them.

Not I wish to sound like a communist or unhinged anti-capitalism whatsoever. But sometimes it is outrageous how the people who has the most money are they one who are capable of even accumulating more of it with little effort. It only take some pretty influencer or some guy with millions of followers to invoke pity on their viewers in order to accumulate small fortunes.
On the other hands, UNICEF and other non profit organizations which do whatever in their power to improve this world, struggle to get people to donate 5$ a month so a baby in Africa can eat and go to school.
That is why I truly can appreciate YouTubers and influencers which at least try to collect money for charity, instead gambling non stop. As PewDiePie did once in favor of the children in India.

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December 05, 2023, 05:32:54 PM
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What you stated are facts op. Firstly, some gamblers who lose a shit-ton of money are easily pitied since their lives got affected badly in more ways than one due to not willing to lose in the first place.

Secondly, people who feel down generally get better whenever they see someone doing worse than them.
Your last statement is very right, this have happened to me on several occasions, and I believe that alot of us here will also testify to this same fact.
On several occasions, I found myself on some situations which I thought I should be pitied, but when I came across some other people who's situation I found worster than mine, I felt better myself and had pity on the other person whos situation is worster than mine.
So, that indeed is a real fact, but all the same, it still makes sense that when it comes to gambling, we all should exercise extreme caution, to avoid getting ourselves into situations that will have people having pity on us, it's better to pity other people, than to be the one being pitied.

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Need to change mindset for all gambler about gambling platform is not way as source income but lets make fun when have more pressure on our working office can spent few cent of dollar for enjoying with gambling platform. Actually make us on sympathetic position when getting our friend loss much in gambling platform actually their fund earned from loan. All people understood with risk from gambling platform exactly they will loss all fund, I think less your sympathetic when finding your friend loss more in gambling because they have know what happen later when put their money all in gambling.
Efficiency don't make gambling for one way how to earn money but make its as place for getting fun only and if get win as bonuses, I think with this mindset never sadness when getting loss in gambling.

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Need to change mindset for all gambler about gambling platform is not way as source income but lets make fun when have more pressure on our working office can spent few cent of dollar for enjoying with gambling platform. Actually make us on sympathetic position when getting our friend loss much in gambling platform actually their fund earned from loan. All people understood with risk from gambling platform exactly they will loss all fund, I think less your sympathetic when finding your friend loss more in gambling because they have know what happen later when put their money all in gambling.
Efficiency don't make gambling for one way how to earn money but make its as place for getting fun only and if get win as bonuses, I think with this mindset never sadness when getting loss in gambling.
You may want to really consider using a translator for your posts or comment if you know you are not really good with English bud, I hope you really don't get or understand this the wrong way, I sincerely mean no disrespect, I just felt like telling you this, so, it's really harmless advice.

Back to what you said, and the part I managed to understand, it is important to know that, not everyone will take gambling as a funfair, and for those who take it as a funfair, not all the time will they engage in gambling simply as a means of just having fun, like I will always say, no body enjoys, and will enjoy losing money constantly all in the name of having fun, winning some bets from time to time, is the real fun of gambling, constant loses will only lead to frustration and possible discouragement from gambling.

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December 05, 2023, 06:34:04 PM
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Don't get sucked in by the big losses you sometimes see from gamblers online.  A lot of those people are actors paid to make exaggerated reactions, often gambling with play money instead of their own cash.  It's all a show to pull people in.  For your own good, tune it out and focus on smarter things.

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On the other hands, UNICEF and other non profit organizations which do whatever in their power to improve this world, struggle to get people to donate 5$ a month so a baby in Africa can eat and go to school.
That is why I truly can appreciate YouTubers and influencers which at least try to collect money for charity, instead gambling non stop. As PewDiePie did once in favor of the children in India.
Agreed. I would like to add by saying that life is a game of luck. Some people get lucky and earn tons of money without doing much at all while some others work their entire lives in order to earn a quarter of what those lucky people earned.

PewDiePie is one such extremely lucky individual who transferred over some of his luck in the form of wealth to various charities. Salute!

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December 05, 2023, 07:42:58 PM
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A player that keeps on gambling, believing that someone else had bigger loss than them, isn't serious about controlling his wealth. And sooner his facial expression would be similar to the player they pitied. They'll be nothing like consoling winning for any gambler. The house is also looking to win through the loss of gamblers. Gamblers are expected to be serious and mindful of the way they throw money into games. Why the players frown their faces, isn't comprehensible. I mean we were meant to enjoy the games. OP, when next you see such gamblers, ask them if they actually had fun? No need pitying newbie players, as they've received the worst orientation before becoming gamblers. If the behavior isn't corrected, the player will continue having a sad facial reaction, until anxiety erupts because of gambling. That means, they'll never have a good time gambling, during their long lasting period of gambling. Failing because others fail is common with humans, but the repercussion would be hard on gamblers as it takes more money from their pocket. So, comparing losses to someone else's own, before we stop gambling, is actually a bad practice as gamblers.

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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
Between remorse, guilt, pain, and anger I wonder which is strongest felt when a gambler losses or even realizes that they have just gambled way their life's savings or money that was supposed to be used for something important. If you have ever been in a bet shop what you will soon realize is that these emotions are but fleeting. They do last up to 30minutes. These gamblers are so full of false hope or disillusion that they believe that they can recover the money they lost if they try again but the story remains the same.

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December 05, 2023, 08:31:06 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

Of course, who wouldn't be sympathetic seeing gamblers loosing big money and you can see and fee their reactions when they are almost close on winning. But suddenly their luck made a U-tun. I even know someone, a family member who did the walk of shame and then cry in front of me because he has lost all the money that should be used for important things. I wouldn't remember that scenario, it was close to 30 years ago.

I guess we should learn lessons from that kind of experience, although I still gamble up to this day and at one time being addicted to gambling, I still try to control everything and not fall for that again in my life.

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December 05, 2023, 08:34:17 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
Between remorse, guilt, pain, and anger I wonder which is strongest felt when a gambler losses or even realizes that they have just gambled way their life's savings or money that was supposed to be used for something important. If you have ever been in a bet shop what you will soon realize is that these emotions are but fleeting. They do last up to 30minutes. These gamblers are so full of false hope or disillusion that they believe that they can recover the money they lost if they try again but the story remains the same.

Everything I guess, because in the beginning, they think that they can win it all and not lose a single penny to even have the courage to gamble their life's saving. So when they lose all the emotions transpired on them, guilt because they should have known better not to gamble, pain - the hardship of what they have to do to have that kind of money, anger to themselves.

So just imagine the expression on their face as the OP put up and then what they are feeling inside.

And if we think about it, we don't want to be on that kind of situation, because physically and emotionally, we will get affected no matter what.

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December 05, 2023, 08:40:53 PM
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So, comparing losses to someone else's own, before we stop gambling, is actually a bad practice as gamblers.

I so much agree with you on this very statement you just made above, because the fact that some people loses huge sum while gambling, at times that could be how much they are willing & could afford to lose, unlike if you are a newbie, and then you try to compare yourself with legend gamblers who has got enough funds and willing to risk any amount. Hence, trying to compare yourself or your budget with anybody else is the worst thing any newbie gambler can ever afford to do. Because just as our fingers are not the same, so is our financial strength not the same.

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Between remorse, guilt, pain, and anger I wonder which is strongest felt when a gambler losses or even realizes that they have just gambled way their life's savings or money that was supposed to be used for something important. If you have ever been in a bet shop what you will soon realize is that these emotions are but fleeting. They do last up to 30minutes. These gamblers are so full of false hope or disillusion that they believe that they can recover the money they lost if they try again but the story remains the same.

in my opinion, i think combination of those emotions you mentioned are usually the emotions of a losing gambler whose money lost was for some very important allotment. and it will continue if he decide to gamble again hoping to recover his losses, but unfortunately, he will incur more losses. you can easily lose yourself in this process. so if your head is still clear, better pause and assess yourself about your situation why you are walking this route.

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December 05, 2023, 08:49:29 PM
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So, comparing losses to someone else's own, before we stop gambling, is actually a bad practice as gamblers.

I so much agree with you on this very statement you just made above, because the fact that some people lose huge sums while gambling, at times that could be how much they are willing & could afford to lose, unlike if you are a newbie, and then you try to compare yourself with legend gamblers who has got enough funds and willing to risk any amount. Hence, trying to compare yourself or your budget with anybody else is the worst thing any newbie gambler can ever afford to do. Because just as our fingers are not the same, so is our financial strength not the same.
Comparison is not allowed in gambling and should be seen as one of the bad habits and no gambler should ever try source bad act,  because the outcome of this can be highly devastating and for that we can't either avoid group gambling or gambling with friends that may put us in a competitive position,  a lot of time we open to some of those act if we don't keep our gambling activities private and for such it's much more easier to avoid competitions as much as possible.

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Don’t be too caught up with some of the losses you see people take online. Many of those gamblers are paid to do what they do and their emotions aren’t always genuine. The ones that are and I’m sure there are plenty of them are likely heartbreaking to see, but that’s why people stream their gambling efforts, so they can receive gifts from those that watch.
Basically we just have to mind our own business not being moved by any amount a gambler may claim to lose be it genuinely or paid claimers. I believe before anyone should be gambling they are old enough to take responsibility of their actions and decisions so of they choose to let themself lose so much money and expect sympathy from me then that's a lie. To win a bet is not about the amount you use or the number of times you decide to stake your bets, if it's not your lucky day then it's not, no beaten yourself about it else you be incurring more losses and you can't turn to me for sympathy. That's bullshit.
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December 05, 2023, 09:56:48 PM
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No matter how much you lost on gambling, I ain't got that time for petty sentiments, all in the name of regrets or pity for you... I believe that nobody needs to tell you at that point to forsake so many unnecessary spendings, including gambling....(cus I believe a gambler would always carryon and spend on other irrelevancies extravagantly)

The one thing that gives them hope is that -- others are winning, and it'll definitely get to Thier turn... maybe today, maybe not. how sick that sounds to me...

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December 05, 2023, 10:16:55 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

People who end up getting emotionally attached to gambling will often end up making some very silly mistakes, as it's usually connected to desperation of winning instead of logically understanding the risks that are being faced. A good gambler will be sticking far within their bankroll and managing it appropriately, often losing no more than 1% of their balance in a single sitting - if we were to talk about a skilled game like poker. You should always be able to get up and leave the table, taking on board any lessons you might have taken and analyzing losing positions, but never feeling sad or uncomfortable that you've lost money. You're either playing entirely for fun or are on a step ladder gaining experience in a game you can beat long term.

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December 05, 2023, 10:19:11 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
Between remorse, guilt, pain, and anger I wonder which is strongest felt when a gambler losses or even realizes that they have just gambled way their life's savings or money that was supposed to be used for something important.

I bet the one that lingers the longest is the remorse.  We all know that regret is chronic, it keeps on coming back even if we are doing fine with our gambling activities. So better to keep ourselves in check and avoid spending money that we cannot afford to lose in our gambling activities.

If you have ever been in a bet shop what you will soon realize is that these emotions are but fleeting. They do last up to 30minutes. These gamblers are so full of false hope or disillusion that they believe that they can recover the money they lost if they try again but the story remains the same.

Yeah, excitement and other feelings are fleeting but they easily go away if we meet the condition why these feelings exist anyway.  Once we are don with meeting the triggers of this emotion, the emotion just simply goes away, we will be happy if the bet turns out to have a positive result but remorseful if it is not because we spend the money we can't afford to lose.

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December 05, 2023, 10:21:58 PM
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Don’t be too caught up with some of the losses you see people take online. Many of those gamblers are paid to do what they do and their emotions aren’t always genuine. The ones that are and I’m sure there are plenty of them are likely heartbreaking to see, but that’s why people stream their gambling efforts, so they can receive gifts from those that watch.

Yeah, I remember one women gambling who become viral in Tiktok and even have been in one thread here. I'm just thing that the whole crying was really stage by the women so that he can get more views and obviously get money.

It's nature to us, sometimes there are soft hearted person here who is a gambler and see that someone losses big money and you can see their reaction in their face. It might be real or not, but we felt compassion and as if we also felt how big the money he or she has lost. But the thing is that instead of being negative about it, let life continue for us and don't be emotionally attached to anything we see that we can relate like in gambling.

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December 05, 2023, 10:29:45 PM
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No matter how much you lost on gambling, I ain't got that time for petty sentiments, all in the name of regrets or pity for you... I believe that nobody needs to tell you at that point to forsake so many unnecessary spendings, including gambling....(cus I believe a gambler would always carryon and spend on other irrelevancies extravagantly)

The one thing that gives them hope is that -- others are winning, and it'll definitely get to their turn... maybe today, maybe not. How sick that sounds to me...

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You are correct and the reason being that you only gamble with an amount you can comfortably lose at some point and also you have a long-term experience to know how best to handle gambling losses at some point and most times,  we tend to take the time to build that system that can reflect on our mindset and physical appearance at the time of Unfavourable conditions such as in this case mentioned in the ops.

Gambling with the wrong mentality or under the influence of anything will amount to a total waste of money in the long run,  but much more also is taking gambling as an investment,  such an approach also has wracked a lot of gamblers sliding them either into huge debts or becoming uncontrollably addicted.
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December 05, 2023, 10:30:36 PM
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If you can't handle the heat, better get out of the kitchen and stop cooking altogether. I think the same thing applies to gambling: if you can't handle the losses, better not start gambling at all. i know that once gamblers got over the loss, they'll do the same thing as if they are not getting the lesson out of the losses. Well, if they are really serious in gambling, they'd chase the losses in hopes of getting even, or getting the win, even.
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December 06, 2023, 07:19:04 AM
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If you can't handle the heat, better get out of the kitchen and stop cooking altogether. I think the same thing applies to gambling: if you can't handle the losses, better not start gambling at all. i know that once gamblers got over the loss, they'll do the same thing as if they are not getting the lesson out of the losses. Well, if they are really serious in gambling, they'd chase the losses in hopes of getting even, or getting the win, even.

That's a pretty bold statement and I highly agree with you. Gambling is not for the ones who can't handle the losses because it's a game where one either win or lose and if one gets depressed or sad due to a loss then that person should better not start gambling in first place.

A gambler has to face many losses during gambling sessions and if that's going to hurt him/her then they should better take a step back and do something else instead of gambling. Sometimes a few gambler face so many consecutive losses and that's enough to shake them out but a true gambling enthusiast won't stop gambling even if he/she faces 100 or even 1000 consecutive losses.

It's still better to gamble on the days when your luck is good because when someone faces more than 3 losses in a single day then he/she should stop gambling for that day. I have always said and I will always say that the ones who are lucky will earn from gambling and the ones who aren't lucky will lose from gambling. Our luck also changes each day so when they luck is on top then once should gamble and when luck isn't in our favor we should halt the gambling operations.

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December 06, 2023, 07:48:29 AM
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If you can't handle the heat, better get out of the kitchen and stop cooking altogether.

I like your this quote, those people are lucky who figured that out that they cannot win in gambling in their first 1 or 2 losses.
And people who are greedy or risk more in their first attempt of gambling they will chase the losses because they risked money which is important to them.
while playing sometimes we feel heat on our face this is better to get out of the session or we can lose it all.
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December 06, 2023, 08:09:08 AM
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If you can't handle the heat, better get out of the kitchen and stop cooking altogether.

I like your this quote, those people are lucky who figured that out that they cannot win in gambling in their first 1 or 2 losses.
And people who are greedy or risk more in their first attempt of gambling they will chase the losses because they risked money which is important to them.
while playing sometimes we feel heat on our face this is better to get out of the session or we can lose it all.
True, many gamblers choose to add fuel to the fire until the fire becomes bigger and burns everything out of them. Sorry for the quote, but anyway, the essence is that many gamblers in real life choose to still continue on playing even if they know that they have lost a quite amount, which means they don't care; they will still keep on hoping until they get a win, either that win is not enough to cover the loss or they never win at the end of the game, and in the end they will see how deep they sank from their misery. Honesty, I don't feel sympathy for those gamblers because, why? If they choose that path or that destiny, then let them face the consequences of their own doing and their own decision. Let them reflect on what they did wrong. If you are in the right mind, then you will know when to stop as a responsible gambler.

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December 06, 2023, 08:20:26 AM
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Don’t be too caught up with some of the losses you see people take online. Many of those gamblers are paid to do what they do and their emotions aren’t always genuine. The ones that are and I’m sure there are plenty of them are likely heartbreaking to see, but that’s why people stream their gambling efforts, so they can receive gifts from those that watch.

Streamers and gamblers are both different persons. A streamer’s content is just to gamble. He doesn’t gamble to make money. He makes money through streaming. So their only motive while streaming is to entertain their audience. On the other hand the emotions shown by a real gambler after losing is really heartbreaking. I also remember losing big amount, and whenever I think about that incident, it makes me sad. So our only lesson that we can learn from here is that, gamble with setting smaller goals and fix budget.

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December 06, 2023, 09:06:55 AM
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No matter how much you lost on gambling, I ain't got that time for petty sentiments, all in the name of regrets or pity for you... I believe that nobody needs to tell you at that point to forsake so many unnecessary spendings, including gambling....(cus I believe a gambler would always carryon and spend on other irrelevancies extravagantly)

The one thing that gives them hope is that -- others are winning, and it'll definitely get to Thier turn... maybe today, maybe not. how sick that sounds to me...

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

With that hope that makes them confident in the victory that will be obtained because they see other people who get the victory so maybe they think they will also get a decent victory. They don't think about the different luck of each person.
Hoping like that is natural, but if they don't have luck until whenever they won't get victory and prosperity in gambling it will only make them financially difficult. And should not expect more in gambling that is not necessarily it will give you what you want.

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December 06, 2023, 09:45:22 AM
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No matter how much you lost on gambling, I ain't got that time for petty sentiments, all in the name of regrets or pity for you... I believe that nobody needs to tell you at that point to forsake so many unnecessary spendings, including gambling....(cus I believe a gambler would always carryon and spend on other irrelevancies extravagantly)

The one thing that gives them hope is that -- others are winning, and it'll definitely get to Thier turn... maybe today, maybe not. how sick that sounds to me...

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With that hope that makes them confident in the victory that will be obtained because they see other people who get the victory so maybe they think they will also get a decent victory. They don't think about the different luck of each person.
Hoping like that is natural, but if they don't have luck until whenever they won't get victory and prosperity in gambling it will only make them financially difficult. And should not expect more in gambling that is not necessarily it will give you what you want.

This is how people lose since they expect to much that they get the same result with those people they are following.

They didn't realize at first place that when it came to them its really different that's why they lose, they should never do it again if they don't want to experience the same faith and always have their own strategy nor do their own research about it if what those people told strategy is really applicable to them so that they not lose a lot of money before they realize that its not really worth to follow the advice given by those random people.

They should feel if they are lucky but if not then its good for them to quit immediately since we all know what will be the result if we continue to gamble while we are playing while we are experience a bad day.

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December 06, 2023, 01:46:59 PM
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In my opinion, do not see or remember the losses that have occurred with gambling,  because before gambling they should know that gambling is great, of course what is obtained is defeat not victory. And if they are like that,  it's better not to gamble if only to remember the losses that have occurred, because gambling is only for entertainment not to make money primarily.
we often see or read that Gambling is for fun and not to make money , but are you a gambler?
if yes then have you not expect to win when you gamble , or you are just nothing but commenting that does not
really understand what gambling is all about. because for how many years that people keeps calling gambling for
entertainment but does not really gamble in regular basis meaning they dont know what is gambling and for what really is.

I'm a gambler myself, I'm not proud of it and I'm not proud of it either. Losing a lot of money, getting big or small wins, loss of self-control, greed and selfishness. I've been there, done that. All people who gamble certainly have the desire to get a big win because no one wants to lose in gambling, is there anyone who has the intention of gambling to lose? For example, someone who has enough money and wants to gamble with the phrase "I will gamble and I want to get a loss", it's impossible, right? everyone wants to win in gambling.

From the beginning I gambled until now I have learned many things, where at the beginning I gambled of course I really wanted a big win and I did gambling by continuing to pursue victory, even though it cost me a lot of money, and one day I realized what should be improved in my behavior towards gambling, which is not to pursue defeat by just wanting to get a win that can cover the losses that have occurred, because that is very unlikely to happen. Also I have realized that gambling is not a place to make money but for entertainment only, and until now I still gamble but not by expecting too much victory nor by crazily chasing victory because I already know what gambling is. So I only play to relieve boredom, win I pull, lose, don't force yourself to chase victory even though you have quite a lot of money. Therefore I say all this, the defeats that have occurred should not be remembered, it is better to forget it because there is still luck later, maybe that too. Grin

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Yes you are right, they are trapped by their own minds that make them addicted to gambling because of the wrong mindset by making gambling a place to make money. Of course this is not true, but the wrong mindset that to make money they should work not gamble, it is not recommended that gambling be used as a place to make money if it is to spend money that is true hahha.
I wish some day you will meet a person that makes a living using gambling aside from those
casino employees that literally paid in gambling instead those gambling experts that only gamble and making money.

I hope like that, so that I can ask many things why he can get victory so easily and always get victory, because maybe he will tell you how to gamble correctly so that you always win and always be profitable, even though gambling is regulated by the bookie who has a role as the host, and you can be sure that the bookie certainly will not want to lose, so if there is someone who makes a living from gambling, maybe he is a god, because he has defeated the bookie as his host. Cheesy

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December 06, 2023, 01:54:19 PM
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This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
A condolence winning? What the hell does that have to do in gambling? If you are playing your luck it means you accept the possible outcomes and then you proceed and not the other way round. This is not a competition where there will be a 1st, 2nd prize and the rest will get a consolation.

Never get emotional seeing a gambler lose money, it is their fault and they have to take the blame for the loss, not you. Never be sympathetic to a gambler's loss either. Many gamblers are trying to play the victim card and extracting money from others just to play more and repeat the cycle. This is the effect of gambling addiction.

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December 06, 2023, 02:34:43 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.


That's a wrong approach to gambling, if a gambler is playing with money that he can afford to lose, there's no need to feel sorry for them, I don't want people consoling me about my losses, that's gambling if your approach to gambling is for entertainment purposes only and you're not looking to make money, you will feel offended if they console with your losses.
Don't show people that you are sorry for your losses, so people will not console you, whatever the outcome show them that you accept it whatever the result is.

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I would say that most gamblers who lose a lot of money are not very good at mathematics. Not just to the point of not understanding concepts like House Edge, but at a more basic level, like not even knowing what their net worth is, as the OP comments. If we think about where the lottery sells more or where there are more betting houses, we see that it coincides not only with people who have less knowledge in general, but who are more needy, unfortunately, and resort to gambling as a quick way of escape (almost always unsuccessful).
Really you think so,  are you saying you have a mathematical formula that aids your winning always or are you just saying this to justify the reason why you should continue to gamble excessively thinking you may or are winning all the time,  this is the mindset of many of those who have lost heavily in the past,  thinking and relying on their ability to win all the time.

But in the end, they end up losing more than they thought and this is added by their overconfidence in their ability to make an accurate game analysis using mechanical tools to do that at most times.
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December 06, 2023, 10:29:12 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
It's just how it is in the gambling industry, most of us are losers. I don't think we should even count how much we have loss, we are all brothers when it comes to gambling, we feel each other and many of us ended up the same way as the other one. Very rare people can come out and testify about their gambling success because we all know that the losing percentage is way higher than winning.
That's why I don't joke about losses with other gamblers, you don't know when they are too sensitive about it because they might have just depleted a lot of money that day in gambling and they are not ready for any jokes yet.
A gambler who doesn't figure out his budget ain't a responsible one, worse, he could be a gambling addict which is why he is unable to control his gambling habit. I think those types of people will need some help from either their relatives, family or a specialist. Maybe that will help him to minimize the damage he is doing to his financial status.

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December 06, 2023, 10:47:40 PM
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So, comparing losses to someone else's own, before we stop gambling, is actually a bad practice as gamblers.

I so much agree with you on this very statement you just made above, because the fact that some people lose huge sums while gambling, at times that could be how much they are willing & could afford to lose, unlike if you are a newbie, and then you try to compare yourself with legend gamblers who has got enough funds and willing to risk any amount. Hence, trying to compare yourself or your budget with anybody else is the worst thing any newbie gambler can ever afford to do. Because just as our fingers are not the same, so is our financial strength not the same.
Comparison is not allowed in gambling and should be seen as one of the bad habits and no gambler should ever try source bad act,  because the outcome of this can be highly devastating and for that we can't either avoid group gambling or gambling with friends that may put us in a competitive position,  a lot of time we open to some of those act if we don't keep our gambling activities private and for such it's much more easier to avoid competitions as much as possible.

This kind of behavior is like buying more clothes in the mall because another person did. Gambling can be a utility and our goal should be focused on our personal experience. The newbies gambling with little or no strategies always try acts that sound unacceptable to the ear, just in the name of making more money. Then they end up losing out like the other player who they're copying or crosschecking their losses to suit theirs. Later they end up going home angry, and passing the wrong message about gambling. Helping the bad publicity, revolving around gamblers. When this player goes home to meet his wife or family, wouldn't they generalize that every gambler behaves in the same manner? Especially when the player is left with no other money, added to the anger written on his forehead. Whenever people around him hear you are a gambler they'll begin to compare you to their brother or husband that misbehaves after gambling. It's a very difficult niche that requires steady counseling to change the strange behavior of inexperienced, compulsive, and addicted gamblers.

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December 06, 2023, 11:06:32 PM
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I think it would be more accurate to make an evaluation or comparison by considering how much money a person loses in gambling compared to his/her financial situation rather than how much money he/she loses. Since everyone has a different financial situation, the 100 units that person A will lose may not be a very high amount for this person but the 50 units that person B will lose may be a high amount for this person.

When we analyze people who go bankrupt due to gambling, unfortunately we can see that these people don’t have good capital management and gaming discipline. In other words, it is clearly seen that many individuals who cannot control their emotions while gambling, who are greedy, who cannot manage their budget and who don’t have discipline often go bankrupt due to gambling.

As someone who has gone through the gambling addiction process before and managed to overcome it I think it is very useful for me to distance myself from the possibility of a gambling addiction that may occur again and the bankruptcy that may occur as a result by taking care to empathize with such people.
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December 06, 2023, 11:15:42 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

If the gambler who doesn’t able to accept the loss in the gambling site will possess same in the face.By the facial expression of the gambler,we can connect whether he had won or loss from the gambling site.To get the steady win from the gambling site,you should concentrate on the gambling site which top in the market.Because they doesn’t need your money to run the gambling site,So they allow the gamblers to make some win.Only thing is you need to crack their algorithm for the win from that gambling site.The gambler capacity was the reason for the impact by the loss of money 10 or 20$ to their monthly expenses.
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December 06, 2023, 11:35:20 PM
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Having sympathy and empathy towards ohers is a personality and there's nothing wrong with it. Let us leave things be; if you lose then it's not your day, than to associate it with other things.
I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.


That's a wrong approach to gambling, if a gambler is playing with money that he can afford to lose, there's no need to feel sorry for them, I don't want people consoling me about my losses, that's gambling if your approach to gambling is for entertainment purposes only and you're not looking to make money, you will feel offended if they console with your losses.
Don't show people that you are sorry for your losses, so people will not console you, whatever the outcome show them that you accept it whatever the result is.
They should know it more than anyone else; losing is a part of the game and that simply makes gambling, "gambling". Having regrets as well should not be a habit in this activity because if you tend to regret every amount you are losing, then you should quit already 'coz gambling is not for you. You are only expecting a positive outcome however it happened that gambling won't give you any assurance.

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December 06, 2023, 11:54:20 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

It is definitely normal to feel this way. We are humans and we share emotions with each other, thus, feeling empathetic to gamblers is a completely normal human thing to do.

On your last statement, that is somehow a dangerous precedent- this gives you the false hope that just because others lost more than what you did, this gives you the validation to gamble again. A loss is a loss regardless on how much value you have risked.

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They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

Technically, that is the truth but when you are in this space, a loss is a loss regardless of the value you have risked. Like what I mentioned, this is potentially dangerous as this kind of mindset can landslide by giving you false hope and rationalization. What I mean is this can compel you to gamble and match the losses of others instead of just calling it a day and trying again the near future.

Again, the initial reaction of gamblers when they lose is to gamble again by recovering such losses. Hopefully, this mindset changes as this can ultimately transition to a gambling spree.

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December 07, 2023, 12:07:49 AM
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That's a wrong approach to gambling, if a gambler is playing with money that he can afford to lose, there's no need to feel sorry for them, I don't want people consoling me about my losses, that's gambling if your approach to gambling is for entertainment purposes only and you're not looking to make money, you will feel offended if they console with your losses.
Don't show people that you are sorry for your losses, so people will not console you, whatever the outcome show them that you accept it whatever the result is.
They should know it more than anyone else; losing is a part of the game and that simply makes gambling, "gambling". [/quote]

Very true but the sad thing is even if the gamblers knows that it is a part of gambling, many are still hooked on the process forgetting things that enable them to gamble what they can't afford to lose.  Ending them to be remorseful of their action.  But what is sadder is that, after this kind of experience, they came back and still with the same reason, they over spend themselves and gamble the money that they can't afford to lose again and again and regret their action again and again.

Having regrets as well should not be a habit in this activity because if you tend to regret every amount you are losing, then you should quit already 'coz gambling is not for you. You are only expecting a positive outcome however it happened that gambling won't give you any assurance.

True that but for people who are already hooked or addicted, or trapped in their revengeful playing, and chasing losses, instead of quitting already, they tend to put more money into gambling making them think to have enough funds to recover all their losses and still end up with nothing.

In this kind cases, I believe a third party should intervene and help these gamblers to recover their sanity and goes back to reality and know that chasing losses should be avoided and when the time comes that regret is always there after gambling, should take a break or quit completely in order for them to avoid sever losses because this kind of people have problem with their self-control.

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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning.
The only condolence winning prize I'm aware about in gambling is the called rakeback, which returns a tiny percentage of the total wagered amount by the gambler to himself. The more they wager, the more rakeback they receive from the casino. Of course it's never enough to cover the losses the gambler has faced, but it decreases the total loss a little, what I think it's exactly the definition of condolence prize or winning, in this case.

Anyway, condolence prize shouldn't be the focus of anyone in gambling. Losses and mistakes are useful as learnships gamblers acquire in order to not repeat the same actions again in the future. I just fear that if you reward someone when they lose, you are actually reinforcing that kind of behavior, meaning the individual will be highly suggested to repeat that same mistake again in the future, so he can receive another reward, and we don't really want that, right? Because it's just going to adapt the individual to a situation which is detrimental to him on long term.

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December 07, 2023, 01:09:05 AM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.


That's a wrong approach to gambling, if a gambler is playing with money that he can afford to lose, there's no need to feel sorry for them, I don't want people consoling me about my losses, that's gambling if your approach to gambling is for entertainment purposes only and you're not looking to make money, you will feel offended if they console with your losses.
Don't show people that you are sorry for your losses, so people will not console you, whatever the outcome show them that you accept it whatever the result is.
Admit what is your faith in gambling , each time we must be proud of the outcome even if we  are continuously losing because what I do believe is this that it will save you from chasing losses because admittance is the key to not become an addict.

many gamblers tried to  hide their gambling activities and some hide that they are losing so the chance is they will look for chance to win that money back.

Losses is part of gambling and actually that is the faith of majority but yes there is also small winning so either you are in the winning side(that rarely to happen)or we are in losing side? admit it and better accept it with your heart and understanding.









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December 07, 2023, 04:45:19 AM
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Stop comparing about figures in gambling as we don't have the same financial capability.

Comparing a bet of $10 to $20 but someone who bet $20 are making $10,000 a month is not a high risk taker than someone who bet $10 but making only $100 per month. It's called irresponsible gambling if someone bet a big percentage of his income as it seem like he prioritizes gambling over the other needs, and usually this type of people are ones who suffers big defeat and stupid enough to blame gambling for the outcome.

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December 07, 2023, 05:20:22 AM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.


That's a wrong approach to gambling, if a gambler is playing with money that he can afford to lose, there's no need to feel sorry for them, I don't want people consoling me about my losses, that's gambling if your approach to gambling is for entertainment purposes only and you're not looking to make money, you will feel offended if they console with your losses.
Don't show people that you are sorry for your losses, so people will not console you, whatever the outcome show them that you accept it whatever the result is.

Basically they should be able to gamble with the budget money they have, so they themselves will feel everything, also with the defeat there is no need to remember it or always remember, because gambling is not a place to make money, unless they are casino employees that can make money. And it should also be gambling just for entertainment not to make money, because the defeat will only be obtained with a greater chance of winning. If they gamble with the budget they have, they should be prepared to lose money in gambling.

That's what must be done, whatever the result we must be able to accept it, don't let other people mourn because this is not death, because this is a defeat made by ourselves. my principle is, don't feel sorry for other people, because other people don't necessarily care about us. I myself if I lose by gambling do not expect others to comfort me, because I know that the defeat is caused by us.

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December 07, 2023, 05:23:06 AM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
This is what will happen to gamblers who tried to cross into their limits due to greed. There are two sides of gambling, it is either you will win or lose. Understanding gambling might get you spare from massive loss or bankruptcy through setting your limits. Make fun of gambling not something else.



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December 07, 2023, 05:39:27 AM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
You don't have to compare yourself with someone else because our financial strength is not the same. Some people earn more than you so comparing yourself with them might make you go bankrupt. Some people's budget for gambling is more than my salary. I don't take solace in someone else loss because I don't know how much they earn or are worth.

Don’t be too caught up with some of the losses you see people take online. Many of those gamblers are paid to do what they do and their emotions aren’t always genuine. The ones that are and I’m sure there are plenty of them are likely heartbreaking to see, but that’s why people stream their gambling efforts, so they can receive gifts from those that watch.
I am trying to figure out whether people will be paid to publish their losses online. Was it to console people who have lost that they are not alone? Just this year many people have come on social media to ask for support after they lost funds that were meant for important things. Two students gambled and lost school fees and another used the fund that was budgeted for his wedding for gambling. Some of them got public backlash and sympathy, one of the students got a gift of school fees from a good Samaritan who won big in gambling.

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December 07, 2023, 05:47:27 AM
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Gamblers that want to make money will see money lost as losses. Gamblers that are having fun while gambling will see losses as nothing.

If I am gambling, it is just like I am wasting money on bear while paying for my friends to drink with me, but the fun I have and the good moment made it not as a loss. I see gambling this way.

If a friend is letting you know how he loss,  always try to encourage him and tell him not to be using the amount of money he can not afford to lose to bet. He should not see gambling as a way of making money.
The average person who counts their losses is a gambler who is looking to profit from their gambling, you can't go wrong with that argument from this perspective of a gambler comparing his losses or gains to other gamblers.

Again we see that many people make gambling as a place to make money, it is a mistake that will continue, and the scheme will eventually catch up with their losses so that they do not realize they are addicted to such a mindset.
I really regret this kind of thing, but it is their right, so I just laugh when they are told but reject the truth. Cheesy

In my opinion, do not see or remember the losses that have occurred with gambling,  because before gambling they should know that gambling is great, of course what is obtained is defeat not victory. And if they are like that,  it's better not to gamble if only to remember the losses that have occurred, because gambling is only for entertainment not to make money primarily.
we often see or read that Gambling is for fun and not to make money , but are you a gambler?
if yes then have you not expect to win when you gamble , or you are just nothing but commenting that does not
really understand what gambling is all about. because for how many years that people keeps calling gambling for
entertainment but does not really gamble in regular basis meaning they dont know what is gambling and for what really is.
And do you know what gambling is? And are you one of the gamblers who wants to win in your gambling activities, literally gambling is made as a place to make money, or multiply the money you bet in the casino, I personally do not deny that.

We are all people who declare gambling as fun, we know that, but we have a different perspective on gambling, I also used to use that view like you, but after I studied the victory in gambling is very small so it would be nice if you already have an interest in gambling is to make it a tool for your own entertainment or with your friends, because if the victory you are looking for it will make yourself impulsive towards gambling activities that can make you mess up for the rest of your life.

In the end, the gambling winnings we get from the gambling we do, are a bonus and do not consider the winnings a necessity that we must get from gambling.
 

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December 07, 2023, 07:05:41 AM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
This is what will happen to gamblers who tried to cross into their limits due to greed. There are two sides of gambling, it is either you will win or lose. Understanding gambling might get you spare from massive loss or bankruptcy through setting your limits. Make fun of gambling not something else.
The expressions will touch us on the faces of those who have lost a lot from gambling. But they should already know that gambling will result in victory or defeat. They can hope to win but it won't be easy. They will experience losses more often than they win.

They should be able to limit their gambling games if they don't want to experience a lot of losses. And actually, it is their own fault they don't want to limit their gambling games. We also can't do anything about them but we can advise them to stop immediately.

And only by limiting their gambling can they reduce the amount they lose. We must understand that gambling is not a way to make money. We can only use it as a way to get entertainment and nothing more.

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December 07, 2023, 09:20:47 AM
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And only by limiting their gambling can they reduce the amount they lose. We must understand that gambling is not a way to make money. We can only use it as a way to get entertainment and nothing more.
Yes, limit gambling and limit your budget so that you don't play beyond your limits. Sometimes people always gamble beyond their limits because they don't limit their gambling budget. That's why gamblers often play uncontrollably and spend a lot of their money until they lose consciousness and become bankrupt because an addiction they never knew they had.

If people want to think like that, consider gambling as entertainment, maybe they won't play recklessly and beyond their limits, of course they will choose to gamble responsibly, therefore, never gamble if you can't control yourself because gambling is not a place for you. looking for money, when you experience defeat you should stop playing, not continue the game which will result in big losses. that's what gamblers must understand.

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December 07, 2023, 09:22:36 AM
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this is the reason why some people here always say the importance of gambling responsibly, self control, commitment and considering gambling as entertainment and many more positive words are always discussed here because we remind each other gambling is the place to get what you think I mean gambling Its not what gamblers want who think about big wins from gambling, but gambling should be considered as a place to enjoy themselves when they have a little money left to have fun with the games they like.
and unfortunately all of this requires an adult mindset to consider gambling as just entertainment so that they will never feel disappointed with the money they have lost several times gambling because even though they lost a small amount of money, they got pleasure.

and if a gambler loses control betting more usually they only think about money and big wins and that is not very good.

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December 07, 2023, 09:52:37 AM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
Many gamblers have this tendency where they gamble depending on the losses of others without thinking about their own losses. If one gambler gets the big jackpot, there is no advantage over the other gambler, in the same way no one get advantages from loss. So I think it's stupid if gambler loses money on his bets and takes solace from seeing the amount others have lost. I will be responsible for my gambling. It should be remembered that my financial situation and his condition are not the same so one should not always bet more than he can afford to lose. One should  not also compare with others gambling loss.

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December 07, 2023, 09:54:54 AM
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And only by limiting their gambling can they reduce the amount they lose. We must understand that gambling is not a way to make money. We can only use it as a way to get entertainment and nothing more.
Yes, limit gambling and limit your budget so that you don't play beyond your limits. Sometimes people always gamble beyond their limits because they don't limit their gambling budget. That's why gamblers often play uncontrollably and spend a lot of their money until they lose consciousness and become bankrupt because an addiction they never knew they had.

If people want to think like that, consider gambling as entertainment, maybe they won't play recklessly and beyond their limits, of course they will choose to gamble responsibly, therefore, never gamble if you can't control yourself because gambling is not a place for you. looking for money, when you experience defeat you should stop playing, not continue the game which will result in big losses. that's what gamblers must understand.

Sympathetic gambling is not encouraged in the first instance. Limiting money or playtime is a bit of advice for gamblers who need it. A sympathetic gambler is deeply disturbed and needs mental help. Because they are close to becoming addicts and with no proper repercussions the person will continue to lose more in gambling. Surprised to see such gamblers do exist, or is it just a normal way of gambling that ends up putting anger on the faces of those gamblers we see leaving in a hurry? They'll never value gambling as entertainment. Do you know that, most gamblers don't read or research about the effect of gambling and why it was made? Only a few understand that it's for fun, millions of gamblers go there for the money. And end up disappointed. Assuming addicts researched before gambling and followed the strategies that help in avoiding addictions, they wouldn't have turned addicts. Players go to the extent of taking huge loans to gamble. Limiting budgets wouldn't sound like good advise to them, because they need the winning to come so big. The reverse now becomes the case, as they'll be seeing the losses in huge amounts.

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December 07, 2023, 11:16:15 AM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
Many gamblers have this tendency where they gamble depending on the losses of others without thinking about their own losses. If one gambler gets the big jackpot, there is no advantage over the other gambler, in the same way no one get advantages from loss. So I think it's stupid if gambler loses money on his bets and takes solace from seeing the amount others have lost. I will be responsible for my gambling. It should be remembered that my financial situation and his condition are not the same so one should not always bet more than he can afford to lose. One should  not also compare with others gambling loss.
Well said! when it comes to gambling, it is better to focus on your own bankroll, winnings, losses and your own strategy. I never advice to look others situations because I do believe that we have our own path. You have to be responsible in your own actions and do not compare yourself to others because it will lead you to pressure and questioning your self confidence.



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December 07, 2023, 11:29:30 AM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
Doesnt matter in regarding the difference when it comes to exact amount or value because we do have the same thing on here which it is "LOSING". Doesnt matter whether you do
lose small amounts or big ones then it would be still a lose and there's no way on turning it back not unless if you would really be that lucky with your next gambling bet then it would be possible but it is something that wont really be that ideal on having that kind of approach because it would really be that making you desperate and would be pushing you out of your limits and this is where
gamblers do really mess up their entire lives when it comes to finances.

When you are on the foot of those losing gamblers then they dont really care on what are others condition and on how much they have lost already. They would really be just that minding on their own business
and would be minding about on how they would really be able to cover up their losses or trying out to break even.

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December 07, 2023, 11:39:59 AM
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when it comes to gambling, it is better to focus on your own bankroll, winnings, losses and your own strategy. I never advice to look others situations because I do believe that we have our own path. You have to be responsible in your own actions and do not compare yourself to others because it will lead you to pressure and questioning your self confidence.
You are right in saying it is better to focus on our own money because that is the reality. We can't pay attention to other people's money, especially if we are not gambling together. We will not be able to be responsible for other people's money so we better focus on controlling ourselves in gambling and let other people be responsible with their money. If they lose a lot of money, that is their risk because it means they cannot be responsible with their money and are too eager to chase wins or recover their losses. We don't need to follow what they do because we have our own responsibilities.

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December 07, 2023, 01:58:24 PM
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A sympathetic gambler is deeply disturbed and needs mental help. Because they are close to becoming addicts and with no proper repercussions the person will continue to lose more in gambling.
They are already addicted and that is the reason why they are sympathetic, they wouldn't be that way if they weren't addicted to gambling or had already spent and lost everything they had. A sympathetic gambler is someone who has gambled and lost everything and is now gaining sympathy either through his condition or facial expressions as said by OP.

Do you know that, most gamblers don't read or research about the effect of gambling and why it was made? Only a few understand that it's for fun, millions of gamblers go there for the money. And end up disappointed.
Yes, I know, and I also know that those who do research and understand the consequences of excessive gambling also become excessive gamblers sometimes, it's not what they want but it's what happens because they lack the required level of patience and self-control to stay out of that red zone.

Assuming addicts researched before gambling and followed the strategies that help in avoiding addictions, they wouldn't have turned addicts.
As I said above, it's not just about knowledge or understanding, sometimes people become addicted even after knowing that they will get addicted if they do certain things and that is because they don't have a patient and disciplined nature.

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December 07, 2023, 02:45:54 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning.
The expression on their faces is their problem.

There is no mercy or pity for greedy gamblers who do not know how to manage their finances and are ready to take risks in a game in which the advantage is on the side of the casino. They deserve only contempt.

While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.
So you console yourself with the fact that they are more losers than you?

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.
Not at all. This happens because even after becoming bankrupt they cannot learn the simple truth - “the casino always wins”. It's stupid to try to beat the casino and it's very expensive. If a gambler is not able to understand what’s what, then the attitude towards him will be appropriate (no sympathy for them).

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
I don't know what they believe, but I believe that they are all at a loss.

The only winner is the one who bypasses the casino.

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December 07, 2023, 02:56:47 PM
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They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

The question should be, how much is 20k worth to the one lost it and how much is 10k worth to the person who lost it. Bankroll differs amongst gamblers, supposedly my bankroll is over 100k and then I loose 50k, and then another gambler's bankroll is around 10k and he looses 9k, who would you say have lost more money. Me or the other gambler?


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December 07, 2023, 03:03:00 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

This is just an excuse that they are giving themselves to justify their loss but in reality, it is not the same.

Let's take two individual, one who make $2000 a month and the other who make $50K a month now talking about the loss of the individual who lost $200 is worse compared to the loss of $1000 by the second individual.

If you ever try to convince yourself then avoid it, it can't do anything good for you in long run.

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December 07, 2023, 03:17:53 PM
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I think it would be more accurate to make an evaluation or comparison by considering how much money a person loses in gambling compared to his/her financial situation rather than how much money he/she loses. Since everyone has a different financial situation, the 100 units that person A will lose may not be a very high amount for this person but the 50 units that person B will lose may be a high amount for this person.

This is a logical approach, considering that we are all (as gamblers) fellow losers, and our situation is not much better. Loss assessment cannot be accurate if the analysis sample is the average of what a person lost in one bet or what he lost in one day or even in a specific period of time, since there are logical standards that can be adopted and better results can be obtained. The easiest of these indicators is to compare the amount that the gambler loses in a certain period of playing time with his budget in general and whether the amount lost does not affect his budget in general. Some results will be different from the normal evaluation because you may find a person who lost $500 without it affecting his financial budget, while another person lost only $20, which is all he has to meet his needs.
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December 07, 2023, 03:32:43 PM
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They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

The question should be, how much is 20k worth to the one lost it and how much is 10k worth to the person who lost it. Bankroll differs amongst gamblers, supposedly my bankroll is over 100k and then I loose 50k, and then another gambler's bankroll is around 10k and he looses 9k, who would you say have lost more money. Me or the other gambler?



To answer the question for you all, that person who has lost higher percentage of his bankroll proportional to his bankroll is the one that has lost more and the one that deserve sympathy if at all that is done in gambling because everyone who has come to gamble should have the knowledge that they are staking for winning or for losing and that one of the outcome will come to them.

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December 07, 2023, 03:51:16 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
Many gamblers have this tendency where they gamble depending on the losses of others without thinking about their own losses. If one gambler gets the big jackpot, there is no advantage over the other gambler, in the same way no one get advantages from loss. So I think it's stupid if gambler loses money on his bets and takes solace from seeing the amount others have lost. I will be responsible for my gambling. It should be remembered that my financial situation and his condition are not the same so one should not always bet more than he can afford to lose. One should  not also compare with others gambling loss.
Well said! when it comes to gambling, it is better to focus on your own bankroll, winnings, losses and your own strategy. I never advice to look others situations because I do believe that we have our own path. You have to be responsible in your own actions and do not compare yourself to others because it will lead you to pressure and questioning your self confidence.

In addition, each gambler has a different approach to his gambling involvement, each person has a different amount of loss and we have to put a little question mark on those who have a large amount of loss about how they can experience such a large amount of loss. It is a matter of luck that everyone has different luck whether it is in terms of the amount of winnings or when they will win.

If you see the situation of others who always seem to be profitable then you want to have the same luck as them then believe me the final result of your experiment 90% will not match the results they get, it could be greater and could be lower or even not produce at all. It's too complicated because everyone has a different portion of luck, so of course it's better to take care of yourself rather than always being affected by other people's situations. Lastly, it makes no sense to compare yourself to others especially when it comes to luck, because it's always unknowable when it comes and how much it will be if you win.

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December 07, 2023, 05:51:17 PM
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They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

The question should be, how much is 20k worth to the one lost it and how much is 10k worth to the person who lost it. Bankroll differs amongst gamblers, supposedly my bankroll is over 100k and then I loose 50k, and then another gambler's bankroll is around 10k and he looses 9k, who would you say have lost more money. Me or the other gambler?


In terms of mathematics, of course you are the one who has lost a lot of money in gambling. However, keep in mind that each person has their own limitations and abilities. There are those who think that losing 50k is a very large amount and there are those who say that losing 50K is a small amount, this depends on a person's financial and mental condition. Because there are people who are financially incapable but force themselves to gamble and risk all the money they have and the largest amount they have at that time is 50K, then when they experience a defeat they will really regret it. and it could be that the largest bet amount he has spent is the smallest amount ever spent by someone who is financially sufficient.

Meanwhile, for people who have a bad mentality, when they experience a loss of any amount, they will assume that it is quite a large amount, because they are really unable to accept a loss when gambling.

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December 07, 2023, 06:08:20 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

I only sympathise with those who gamble ignorantly without knowing the extent of damage their involvement can do to their finances. For those who have gambled for long and have become gamblers, I have little or no sympathy towards them as they already know the pros and the cons of the trade.

Gambling is a conscious event that is walked into with all senses intact. Except for newbies, oldies are used to loses so no need wasting sympathy.

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December 07, 2023, 06:36:05 PM
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Many gamblers have this tendency where they gamble depending on the losses of others without thinking about their own losses. If one gambler gets the big jackpot, there is no advantage over the other gambler, in the same way no one get advantages from loss. So I think it's stupid if gambler loses money on his bets and takes solace from seeing the amount others have lost. I will be responsible for my gambling. It should be remembered that my financial situation and his condition are not the same so one should not always bet more than he can afford to lose. One should  not also compare with others gambling loss.
Those who have experienced a lot of losses in gambling certainly don't count how much money they have spent gambling and they really care about how much money other people have spent gambling, when someone has won a big win, of course they have forgotten about the defeat. that they have got.
You are right, people who care too much about other people when gambling, of course they never think about themselves and when they suffer the same defeat, of course other people will not necessarily care about the defeat they get.
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December 07, 2023, 06:39:44 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
Many gamblers have this tendency where they gamble depending on the losses of others without thinking about their own losses. If one gambler gets the big jackpot, there is no advantage over the other gambler, in the same way no one get advantages from loss. So I think it's stupid if gambler loses money on his bets and takes solace from seeing the amount others have lost. I will be responsible for my gambling. It should be remembered that my financial situation and his condition are not the same so one should not always bet more than he can afford to lose. One should  not also compare with others gambling loss.
Well said! when it comes to gambling, it is better to focus on your own bankroll, winnings, losses and your own strategy. I never advice to look others situations because I do believe that we have our own path. You have to be responsible in your own actions and do not compare yourself to others because it will lead you to pressure and questioning your self confidence.

In addition, each gambler has a different approach to his gambling involvement, each person has a different amount of loss and we have to put a little question mark on those who have a large amount of loss about how they can experience such a large amount of loss. It is a matter of luck that everyone has different luck whether it is in terms of the amount of winnings or when they will win.

If you see the situation of others who always seem to be profitable then you want to have the same luck as them then believe me the final result of your experiment 90% will not match the results they get, it could be greater and could be lower or even not produce at all. It's too complicated because everyone has a different portion of luck, so of course it's better to take care of yourself rather than always being affected by other people's situations. Lastly, it makes no sense to compare yourself to others especially when it comes to luck, because it's always unknowable when it comes and how much it will be if you win.
Different approach indeed on which not all people would really be that mindful on whatever actions that they are making. Losing up your composure is really just that normal because no one really likes on losing money
on which if the results of the game that we are playing turns out to be negative then it would really be that basically reflecting on how you would really be that reacting into that one. We are really just that
human beings and just like been said by some people above that we are really that emotional beings on which it would be basing up on what are the things that you are dealing with.

This is why it is really that important that on the time that you are dealing with gambling then you should really expect the unexpected specially when it comes to results. When gambling then it would be always pertain
about neither losing or winning which would really vary or depending on how lucky you are because not all would really be that on the same level on being lucky and this is why it would really be
that resulting into different conditions and situations on which a certain person or individual might be able to experience. Emotional impulsiveness would also be different and this is why
we do see someone who do react more compared to another one. Control does really vary!

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December 07, 2023, 06:47:37 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
Many gamblers have this tendency where they gamble depending on the losses of others without thinking about their own losses. If one gambler gets the big jackpot, there is no advantage over the other gambler, in the same way no one get advantages from loss. So I think it's stupid if gambler loses money on his bets and takes solace from seeing the amount others have lost. I will be responsible for my gambling. It should be remembered that my financial situation and his condition are not the same so one should not always bet more than he can afford to lose. One should  not also compare with others gambling loss.
Crazy but this is exactly what one of my friend was actually arguing some nights back. The argument well not actually an argument but it was like a sigh of relief when he Heard some of his colleague complain and talk about the huge sum of cash they actually lose out to gambling site and other means of betting. He said that whenever he heard people complain about the huge some of cash they have lost , it made him feel as if he is still sane and so rulling out the fact that it he is actually wasting money but I had to tell or advice him taking refuge on other people losses in gambling is actually a stupid idea because the money he lost is still his own and he is responsible for that foolishness.

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December 07, 2023, 08:22:35 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
Losses are inevitable in gambling, and the more you decide to gamble more, the higher the chances that you'll end up losing. My point here is that no one forces you to lose yourself and your funds, it's your decision to gamble and lose. So why would you ask for a condolence winning when you know it's your fault why you used up all your budget and funds.

This is why learn to gamble on the amount that you can afford to lose. Gambling is a form of entertainment, and not a source of money making. You can always chose to gamble but set your betting limit amount that you are comfortable losing, that way you won't be regretting later on.

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December 07, 2023, 08:47:49 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
Many gamblers have this tendency where they gamble depending on the losses of others without thinking about their own losses. If one gambler gets the big jackpot, there is no advantage over the other gambler, in the same way no one get advantages from loss. So I think it's stupid if gambler loses money on his bets and takes solace from seeing the amount others have lost. I will be responsible for my gambling. It should be remembered that my financial situation and his condition are not the same so one should not always bet more than he can afford to lose. One should  not also compare with others gambling loss.
Well said! when it comes to gambling, it is better to focus on your own bankroll, winnings, losses and your own strategy. I never advice to look others situations because I do believe that we have our own path. You have to be responsible in your own actions and do not compare yourself to others because it will lead you to pressure and questioning your self confidence.
Focusing on others probably to sympathize with them or probably to console them dose no good as that will not help them het back their money neither will it help them win their next trial so it's mostly of no use trying to console or sypatize with them unnecessarily room long enough.

It's only reasonable to learn from others mistakes buy not dwelling on them because it has no positive impact as to helping you getting better at your game, its just proper you improve your performance by learning from these mistakes and help your strategy become better and manage your risk even better knowing how well it could affect your bankroll if you are not careful well enough with your management strategy.

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December 07, 2023, 10:47:17 PM
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A sympathetic gambler is deeply disturbed and needs mental help. Because they are close to becoming addicts and with no proper repercussions the person will continue to lose more in gambling.
They are already addicted and that is the reason why they are sympathetic, they wouldn't be that way if they weren't addicted to gambling or had already spent and lost everything they had. A sympathetic gambler is someone who has gambled and lost everything and is now gaining sympathy either through his condition or facial expressions as said by OP.

Do you know that, most gamblers don't read or research about the effect of gambling and why it was made? Only a few understand that it's for fun, millions of gamblers go there for the money. And end up disappointed.
Yes, I know, and I also know that those who do research and understand the consequences of excessive gambling also become excessive gamblers sometimes, it's not what they want but it's what happens because they lack the required level of patience and self-control to stay out of that red zone.

Assuming addicts researched before gambling and followed the strategies that help in avoiding addictions, they wouldn't have turned addicts.
As I said above, it's not just about knowledge or understanding, sometimes people become addicted even after knowing that they will get addicted if they do certain things and that is because they don't have a patient and disciplined nature.

After a few discoveries I found that you're right. Anybody can be addicted to gambling depending on different factors. Not just self-control, therapists say that we can get addicted without being aware. Maybe after some moments, the brain begins to act in unusual ways. The gambler now discovers he's addicted to gambling. But, won't have the courage to inform anybody or open up to family or others on the outside. In this stage of addiction, the gambler gets exposed to more problem gambling. Spending money without calculating and ends up becoming a sympathetic gambler. Then it could be a serious stage of addiction according to your context. It doesn't seem like the first stage of gambling addiction, where the player still enjoys gambling thrills and invests more time into gambling, and avoiding other social activities. Why I said something about sympathetic gambling as a way towards gambling addiction, before you changed my perspective, is that even newbie gamblers experience the same thing. Most people who we see wearing angry faces are new gamblers. Who have been disappointed, or carried away by thinking that they've not lost enough money like the other guy who just left. Hence, they'll trust trying more luck could bring a change to their current losing spree.

Then in the next process, the player will get desperate, seeking more wins, and hopelessness erupts in the life of the gambler. He won't see things the good way anymore. Gambling will be the priority on their daily list. So, not being aware of these things or the disadvantages of gambling doesn't make any difference for those who do? Don't you think a percentage of gamblers who do their research, escape addiction? regardless of the whole odds being against the player. I mean not everyone gets addicted, after discovering the importance of money management and practicing it. That is creating a strategy for limiting how money is spent. May be having a daily transaction limit on the bank account. At least the gambler is one step ahead of getting addiction, because his money gets cut, whenever he tries to gamble more than his daily limit. In my first response, reading and practicing what we've read is still effective. You're right, for those who don't practice what they've read about escaping addiction.  

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December 07, 2023, 10:53:23 PM
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It’s just that true. You can only empathize if you yourself understood how it felt to be in that person’s shoes, been in the same shoes myself as I’ve consoled people who lost a lot of money, and been in the shoes of those who lost their money through gambling too.

I think the best thing you could do to someone who’s in that situation is to not only empathize with them, but to also hear what they have to say and perhaps even go so far as to actually verr them towards responsible gambling. Sometimes that’s what would really help them in the long run. And you yourself, might want to look into respnsible gambling as well. Trust me, it’s good.

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December 07, 2023, 11:11:29 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
Many gamblers have this tendency where they gamble depending on the losses of others without thinking about their own losses. If one gambler gets the big jackpot, there is no advantage over the other gambler, in the same way no one get advantages from loss. So I think it's stupid if gambler loses money on his bets and takes solace from seeing the amount others have lost. I will be responsible for my gambling. It should be remembered that my financial situation and his condition are not the same so one should not always bet more than he can afford to lose. One should  not also compare with others gambling loss.
Well said! when it comes to gambling, it is better to focus on your own bankroll, winnings, losses and your own strategy. I never advice to look others situations because I do believe that we have our own path. You have to be responsible in your own actions and do not compare yourself to others because it will lead you to pressure and questioning your self confidence.
Focusing on others probably to sympathize with them or probably to console them dose no good as that will not help them het back their money neither will it help them win their next trial so it's mostly of no use trying to console or sypatize with them unnecessarily room long enough.

It's only reasonable to learn from others mistakes buy not dwelling on them because it has no positive impact as to helping you getting better at your game, its just proper you improve your performance by learning from these mistakes and help your strategy become better and manage your risk even better knowing how well it could affect your bankroll if you are not careful well enough with your management strategy.

The players who are more gestural and who show more of their Conditions, it is quite obvious that they have a weakness, because they are Basically making known what they are doing or what they may be thinking at any given Moment , I am not one to see faces much , of course in a Physical casino, because in an online casino there is no way to see it, but this can be a great weakness when playing poker, because the gestures of Many can see that they are waiting for a good moment, or a bad moment and that It is evident, those are the things that we must see to be able to start, and of course everything goes to the level where it can be taken into account that when many things are done to win, some do not work, in this sense, when I am in physical casinos If I see the hearts of some of the handsome people, some show emotion, another I see the face that if someone approaches them they Basically eat it because they are so Angry , I mean I don't Understand it, because with the exception of them they are better than when they are They get angry with you , because they show everyone in the face like that, in this case that Should not be done, Because it is information, those are also things that we must take care of ourselves.

This means a lot because there are people and players who show their emotions, of course it is clear to point out that not only are we equal, at least when I am in a place I do not show my emotions, rather I am serious, of course except when I am with my friends , perhaps drinking beers, talking like that, that is something else, and then it goes to another plane, but in matters like this we must see that when it comes to doing or going beyond, the fact of Seeing the face of someone with discomfort or that they are doing well or badly, that is interpreted as information that sometimes many can take advantage of , either to do something else or to be present so that they can see What they are playing to see. if some of that good luck rubs off on them.

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December 08, 2023, 01:42:47 AM
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In my opinion, do not see or remember the losses that have occurred with gambling,  because before gambling they should know that gambling is great, of course what is obtained is defeat not victory. And if they are like that,  it's better not to gamble if only to remember the losses that have occurred, because gambling is only for entertainment not to make money primarily.
we often see or read that Gambling is for fun and not to make money , but are you a gambler?
if yes then have you not expect to win when you gamble , or you are just nothing but commenting that does not
really understand what gambling is all about. because for how many years that people keeps calling gambling for
entertainment but does not really gamble in regular basis meaning they dont know what is gambling and for what really is.
And do you know what gambling is? And are you one of the gamblers who wants to win in your gambling activities, literally gambling is made as a place to make money, or multiply the money you bet in the casino, I personally do not deny that.

We are all people who declare gambling as fun, we know that, but we have a different perspective on gambling, I also used to use that view like you, but after I studied the victory in gambling is very small so it would be nice if you already have an interest in gambling is to make it a tool for your own entertainment or with your friends, because if the victory you are looking for it will make yourself impulsive towards gambling activities that can make you mess up for the rest of your life.

In the end, the gambling winnings we get from the gambling we do, are a bonus and do not consider the winnings a necessity that we must get from gambling.
 
If I take it literally, I also agree that gambling is a place to make money or double money, because if we are lucky then we will get a win that makes the balance we have at the beginning become a lot, the amount is also uncertain because it is a random system, but if it is to be the main income in life I myself do not recommend it.

Gambling will indeed be fun if we can consider it as entertainment not as a source of income, because if you consider it as the main income it will be sad in the future, because most of those who consider gambling as the main income like that they experience losing a lot of money because of the pursuit of victory as well as this will destroy a person's life where his life is peaceful and calm, if they are already addicted then there will be a difference in their behavior which may also be negative. in contrast to considering it as a means of entertainment, someone will have a limit on gambling not to gamble excessively because they are aware of the impact that gambling has on it is not playing. So even though it can be interpreted as a money multiplier but we should not get addicted to it because it is not a good thing.

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December 08, 2023, 01:49:04 AM
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OP, this topic does not belong here, you should move it to gambling discussion.

Anyone that feels he has lost heavily and is showing that on his face should quit gambling because he can't control his gambling activities, and this also shows that the person has used more than the amount that he can afford to loose to gamble. No matter how small that amount is, if it is going to make you look pale or in a bad mood, it means that amount is too big for you to gamble with.

Gambling should be seen as fun and not for profit and anyone that knows this, will live a healthy gambling life. I don't normally have sympathy for anyone that have lost big because it was an act of greed that led them to such big loss and nobody needs to give them any money due to sympathy. Instead you should advice them on how to be a responsible gambler and let them not see gamble as a get rich quick scheme.
Yes, maybe the person said by the OP spent more money than the limits so that they experienced big losses and made them feel disappointed with the gambling they played, it's okay, this can be a lesson for them and they are forced to stop doing these activities, at least they can think for a moment if gambling cannot be used as a source of income and the most important thing is that the person does not take out loans to continue their activities or try to catch up on these losses because it is very likely that they will experienced losses again and again.

Indeed, basically gambling should be seen as a means of entertainment, not as a mean of fortune for those who are hopeless or feel lacking in their daily income, so they hope that gambling can give them new hope when they win. This is the thinking of people who cannot think sensibly that they should not have high hopes in gambling because gambling is not a sure way to make money.
Of course, with sympathy, you can advise people who fail in their gambling to think realistically because gambling is not for making money.

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December 08, 2023, 11:49:17 AM
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In my opinion, do not see or remember the losses that have occurred with gambling,  because before gambling they should know that gambling is great, of course what is obtained is defeat not victory. And if they are like that,  it's better not to gamble if only to remember the losses that have occurred, because gambling is only for entertainment not to make money primarily.
we often see or read that Gambling is for fun and not to make money , but are you a gambler?
if yes then have you not expect to win when you gamble , or you are just nothing but commenting that does not
really understand what gambling is all about. because for how many years that people keeps calling gambling for
entertainment but does not really gamble in regular basis meaning they dont know what is gambling and for what really is.
And do you know what gambling is? And are you one of the gamblers who wants to win in your gambling activities, literally gambling is made as a place to make money, or multiply the money you bet in the casino, I personally do not deny that.

We are all people who declare gambling as fun, we know that, but we have a different perspective on gambling, I also used to use that view like you, but after I studied the victory in gambling is very small so it would be nice if you already have an interest in gambling is to make it a tool for your own entertainment or with your friends, because if the victory you are looking for it will make yourself impulsive towards gambling activities that can make you mess up for the rest of your life.

In the end, the gambling winnings we get from the gambling we do, are a bonus and do not consider the winnings a necessity that we must get from gambling.
 
If I take it literally, I also agree that gambling is a place to make money or double money, because if we are lucky then we will get a win that makes the balance we have at the beginning become a lot, the amount is also uncertain because it is a random system, but if it is to be the main income in life I myself do not recommend it.

Gambling will indeed be fun if we can consider it as entertainment not as a source of income, because if you consider it as the main income it will be sad in the future, because most of those who consider gambling as the main income like that they experience losing a lot of money because of the pursuit of victory as well as this will destroy a person's life where his life is peaceful and calm, if they are already addicted then there will be a difference in their behavior which may also be negative. in contrast to considering it as a means of entertainment, someone will have a limit on gambling not to gamble excessively because they are aware of the impact that gambling has on it is not playing. So even though it can be interpreted as a money multiplier but we should not get addicted to it because it is not a good thing.
Every game can teach you about luck, trends, and even psychology. It's like a live-action class where you're both student and participant. You bring up an important point when you say that it could be addicting. Could we use gambling to see how disciplined we are? Setting clear limits, we use each lesson as a chance to work on self-control and learn how to leave without worrying about what will happen. This control that I put on myself might show up in other parts of my life, right? So, gambling changes from a habit that could hurt you to a way to improve yourself. It's not about winning or losing money; it's about learning more about ourselves and how we make choices

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December 08, 2023, 02:11:54 PM
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In addition, each gambler has a different approach to his gambling involvement, each person has a different amount of loss and we have to put a little question mark on those who have a large amount of loss about how they can experience such a large amount of loss. It is a matter of luck that everyone has different luck whether it is in terms of the amount of winnings or when they will win.

If you see the situation of others who always seem to be profitable then you want to have the same luck as them then believe me the final result of your experiment 90% will not match the results they get, it could be greater and could be lower or even not produce at all. It's too complicated because everyone has a different portion of luck, so of course it's better to take care of yourself rather than always being affected by other people's situations. Lastly, it makes no sense to compare yourself to others especially when it comes to luck, because it's always unknowable when it comes and how much it will be if you win.
Different approach indeed on which not all people would really be that mindful on whatever actions that they are making. Losing up your composure is really just that normal because no one really likes on losing money
on which if the results of the game that we are playing turns out to be negative then it would really be that basically reflecting on how you would really be that reacting into that one. We are really just that
human beings and just like been said by some people above that we are really that emotional beings on which it would be basing up on what are the things that you are dealing with.

This is why it is really that important that on the time that you are dealing with gambling then you should really expect the unexpected specially when it comes to results. When gambling then it would be always pertain
about neither losing or winning which would really vary or depending on how lucky you are because not all would really be that on the same level on being lucky and this is why it would really be
that resulting into different conditions and situations on which a certain person or individual might be able to experience. Emotional impulsiveness would also be different and this is why
we do see someone who do react more compared to another one. Control does really vary!

I think there are two things that can make us lose consciousness in our gambling involvement, first is winning, we often find that someone can be carried away by the situation that can make them feel happy, do not remember the time to go home and what they want is to continue playing because they think that it looks like a bigger luck they will get soon and that is greed. The second is a losing situation, your emotions will play a big role when you are in such a condition, the absence of responsibility makes you unable to accept a bad result, so it makes you emotional and continue gambling with the intention of catching up with the loss and it can also be said to be carried away but it refers more to losing calm because the final result is not what you want.

That's right, and that means luck varies greatly, as I said earlier that everyone's luck has its portion, so you can't if you want to have the same luck as them, especially in terms of a big enough win. A person's behavior and nature from birth will produce a different reaction between you and other people in terms of results that are not in accordance with the wishes, for example someone who has a personality that is easily provoked and provoked or temperamental.
will definitely be excessive in acting out his emotions.

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December 08, 2023, 02:42:31 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

That is normal to be emphatic to other fellow gamblers when they lose a lot,I remember when I used to lose big one time many years ago and I even lost money that I needed to eat,being deep down in addiction not only one person but a couple of them gave me condolence tips of 10-20 Euros and I only then realized what I have done and what gambling addiction can do to you,it can totally destroy your senses like it did to me at that time.

I never think that someone lost more than me,I just think that I am fighting to hit that huge multiplier and when I lose I do not condone myself to think that other lost more,I am very angry as why I didn't hit that huge multiplier although I know chances when playing slots are 0 or almost 0 in the long run.

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December 08, 2023, 03:06:15 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

Do we actually needs to pity any gambler when they make loss, we don't also console them when they make a big win and enjoy their fund alone, gambling should be known for it risk, we shouldn't gamble the amount of money we cannot afford to loose, when we take any decision with gambling that is beyond what we can handle, then that's on our own risk, you're also right, if you consider your own lost compared to others, you will discover you're nothing to be compared to what others have been through.

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December 08, 2023, 03:26:00 PM
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Do we actually needs to pity any gambler when they make loss, we don't also console them when they make a big win and enjoy their fund alone, gambling should be known for it risk, we shouldn't gamble the amount of money we cannot afford to loose, when we take any decision with gambling that is beyond what we can handle, then that's on our own risk, you're also right, if you consider your own lost compared to others, you will discover you're nothing to be compared to what others have been through.
In as much as it will turn out that our losses may be nothing compared to that which others have lost if we are to start comparison, that still doesn't mean we should not be sympathetic or overly sympathetic with those who happens to be in such situations but then hopefully they will get pass it within a number of time.

Gambling with what you can afford to loose and how well you can manage your risk should most times be our priority but otherwise we would be the next line that they would be sympathizing with after our next losses. These gamblers if they turn out lucky with such risk, they most times go quiet and mute about it, not sharing their sins the way they share their losses to get sympathy from people around, so in variably they should most times be left to grieve over their losses.

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December 08, 2023, 03:47:45 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

That's why most people here always say to gamble for fun, not for anything else. Even if you lose, it's okay because the only goal is to have fun.
As much as possible, we should always have control over ourselves as gamblers in this field.

It's okay to lose; what's not okay is to lose a lot of money because we didn't control our emotions or ourselves. You know that gamblers often lose and winning is very seldom in the gambling platform.



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December 08, 2023, 03:50:26 PM
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Do we actually needs to pity any gambler when they make loss, we don't also console them when they make a big win and enjoy their fund alone, gambling should be known for it risk, we shouldn't gamble the amount of money we cannot afford to loose, when we take any decision with gambling that is beyond what we can handle, then that's on our own risk, you're also right, if you consider your own lost compared to others, you will discover you're nothing to be compared to what others have been through.
In as much as it will turn out that our losses may be nothing compared to that which others have lost if we are to start comparison, that still doesn't mean we should not be sympathetic or overly sympathetic with those who happens to be in such situations but then hopefully they will get pass it within a number of time.

Gambling with what you can afford to loose and how well you can manage your risk should most times be our priority but otherwise we would be the next line that they would be sympathizing with after our next losses. These gamblers if they turn out lucky with such risk, they most times go quiet and mute about it, not sharing their sins the way they share their losses to get sympathy from people around, so in variably they should most times be left to grieve over their losses.

Gamblers are hopeful when they gamble their money even if it's their last they just cross their fingers and brag about how much they lost. You can be sympathetic to some of them but probably to those who genuinely need sympathy. Apparently, hard to see how genuine a person is even in times when he needs money the most.
A few dollars he will be grateful for it and you can only hope he will do the right way and not gamble with what little he has.

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December 08, 2023, 04:18:07 PM
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Maybe Op doesn't like the gambling site he is promoting, so he is looking for other gambling sites and casinos that will give him the feeling that he will be happy here. Although Bitvest has been around for a long time, of course there are many crypto gambling games that have come out now after a few years have passed.

But anyway, it's better to try something else, so all I can say to Op is to try blackjack, then slot games, which I think are okay for a newbie like him.
Slot games are the easiest among other gambling games. And there are already many casinos that have many interesting slot providers to play. It is a normal thing when there are gamblers who want to find a new atmosphere in a different casino, and that is also the wish of @OP. What @OP must pay attention to is that whatever gambling game he plays, he must be able to use the money he can afford and not use more money. Otherwise, he will only lose the money and will regret it when he is finished gambling. And don't forget to be able to control yourself while gambling because in gambling, there will be many temptations that might make you forget to stop gambling.

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December 08, 2023, 06:38:47 PM
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They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

The question should be, how much is 20k worth to the one lost it and how much is 10k worth to the person who lost it. Bankroll differs amongst gamblers, supposedly my bankroll is over 100k and then I loose 50k, and then another gambler's bankroll is around 10k and he looses 9k, who would you say have lost more money. Me or the other gambler?


In terms of mathematics, of course you are the one who has lost a lot of money in gambling. However, keep in mind that each person has their own limitations and abilities. There are those who think that losing 50k is a very large amount and there are those who say that losing 50K is a small amount, this depends on a person's financial and mental condition. Because there are people who are financially incapable but force themselves to gamble and risk all the money they have and the largest amount they have at that time is 50K, then when they experience a defeat they will really regret it. and it could be that the largest bet amount he has spent is the smallest amount ever spent by someone who is financially sufficient.

Meanwhile, for people who have a bad mentality, when they experience a loss of any amount, they will assume that it is quite a large amount, because they are really unable to accept a loss when gambling.

Exactly my point OP, a gambler's financial capability is measured by his bankroll, and that should also influence the gambler's staking power and the kind of risk he is to take when gambling, a gambler who knows his bankroll is only 50k and then risks the whole of the 50k is acting out of greed, and there's a two way outcome to it, to eith double his total money or loose it all. Some gamblers feel this kind of risk is worth taking but I think it's too much of a risk .

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December 09, 2023, 09:25:58 AM
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When you are on the foot of those losing gamblers then they dont really care on what are others condition and on how much they have lost already. They would really be just that minding on their own business
and would be minding about on how they would really be able to cover up their losses or trying out to break even.
This is exactly how it feels. Most lot of gamblers holds their faiths at lost appreciating its ratios of lost in the gambling after comparing and evaluating what they have lost and what the others has lost failing to understand that a gamblers losts and a gamblers wins is within itself.
So basically... When they wins, they seems to compare others who has been counting lost in the gambling table and believes they are at the safer side also at when loses, the looks upon knowing how much total lost of others and also check on how much they have lost to consolidate itself with a self sympathy.
They are usually likely to recalling of historical gambling experiences as reference and not just minding its businesses and thinks about the now or later.
They are best to uphold sympathetic memories upon it selves.

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December 09, 2023, 10:15:49 AM
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If I take it literally, I also agree that gambling is a place to make money or double money, because if we are lucky then we will get a win that makes the balance we have at the beginning become a lot, the amount is also uncertain because it is a random system, but if it is to be the main income in life I myself do not recommend it.

Gambling will indeed be fun if we can consider it as entertainment not as a source of income, because if you consider it as the main income it will be sad in the future, because most of those who consider gambling as the main income like that they experience losing a lot of money because of the pursuit of victory as well as this will destroy a person's life where his life is peaceful and calm, if they are already addicted then there will be a difference in their behavior which may also be negative. in contrast to considering it as a means of entertainment, someone will have a limit on gambling not to gamble excessively because they are aware of the impact that gambling has on it is not playing. So even though it can be interpreted as a money multiplier but we should not get addicted to it because it is not a good thing.
Every game can teach you about luck, trends, and even psychology. It's like a live-action class where you're both student and participant. You bring up an important point when you say that it could be addicting. Could we use gambling to see how disciplined we are? Setting clear limits, we use each lesson as a chance to work on self-control and learn how to leave without worrying about what will happen. This control that I put on myself might show up in other parts of my life, right? So, gambling changes from a habit that could hurt you to a way to improve yourself. It's not about winning or losing money; it's about learning more about ourselves and how we make choices

I think by using gambling to see how disciplined we can be, because when we win we have to be able to immediately cash it in, and when we lose, we don't gamble anymore to chase the win, well by doing these two things we can test our discipline in gambling. does this sound ridiculous or absurd?
And also I think in gambling there are also things that can be a lesson for us such as, with defeat. where we can learn to accept it well do not let the defeat make us emotional towards gambling.

Maybe you are right, it's not just about winning and losing. but it's also about how we learn to deal with all the problems that exist in gambling.

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December 09, 2023, 12:28:51 PM
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Every game can teach you about luck, trends, and even psychology. It's like a live-action class where you're both student and participant. You bring up an important point when you say that it could be addicting. Could we use gambling to see how disciplined we are? Setting clear limits, we use each lesson as a chance to work on self-control and learn how to leave without worrying about what will happen. This control that I put on myself might show up in other parts of my life, right? So, gambling changes from a habit that could hurt you to a way to improve yourself. It's not about winning or losing money; it's about learning more about ourselves and how we make choices
Luck can't be learned but it is already on us. And it only comes out naturally when it is now time.
Yes, we can use gambling to see if how disciplined we are and it is actually better than the others because gambling is pretty addicting.

I am sure many are going to fail the test or they will get a low grade, but they can still improve it if they will learn on their mistakes and study hard if what they can do to be more successful on controlling their selves. For the many, they only treat gambling the way it is commonly used but those who think beyond than that, can carry what they experience in gambling to other aspects of their life, but that is mostly the positive traits.

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December 09, 2023, 08:56:40 PM
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Exactly my point OP, a gambler's financial capability is measured by his bankroll, and that should also influence the gambler's staking power and the kind of risk he is to take when gambling, a gambler who knows his bankroll is only 50k and then risks the whole of the 50k is acting out of greed, and there's a two way outcome to it, to eith double his total money or loose it all. Some gamblers feel this kind of risk is worth taking but I think it's too much of a risk .

If we bet by handing over all the money we have or what is better known as "All in", that is nothing but carelessness. But even so, there are still many people who behave like that, they complain about their fate in gambling.

And there is a story where I was traveling with my friend who was quite far away. And when we were in the middle of the road to go home, we only had 50 thousand left, so I felt a little uncertain because that amount of money wouldn't be enough to get home and on one side our stomachs were also rumbling. And in that situation, my friend took the initiative to deposit the money to gamble. At the start of the game we won, and the money was multiplied three times. However, how stupid my friend was at that time, instead of withdrawing the winnings, he instead doubled the bet to make it even bigger because he thought that victory and luck were on his side. And unfortunately at that time all the winnings were sucked back into gambling. Even though I was warned to withdraw the winnings. and in the end to be able to eat and continue my journey home, I had to borrow money from my brother. However, from this incident I learned a lesson, that there is only a slight difference between courage and recklessness.

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December 10, 2023, 12:00:34 AM
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If we bet by handing over all the money we have or what is better known as "All in", that is nothing but carelessness. But even so, there are still many people who behave like that, they complain about their fate in gambling.
usually, something like this happens because they always lose in the previous game and want to back all their capital quickly. we can't blame them because this nature happens to every gambler. I've done it and sometimes succeeded in returning my loss. but it does require very precise calculations, if done blindly, the player will lose all his money like before. Players like this always rely on their instinct then calculation, so it looks sloppy and greedy.

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If we bet by handing over all the money we have or what is better known as "All in", that is nothing but carelessness. But even so, there are still many people who behave like that, they complain about their fate in gambling.
usually, something like this happens because they always lose in the previous game and want to back all their capital quickly. we can't blame them because this nature happens to every gambler. I've done it and sometimes succeeded in returning my loss. but it does require very precise calculations, if done blindly, the player will lose all his money like before. Players like this always rely on their instinct then calculation, so it looks sloppy and greedy.
I call it frustration when a gambler experiences a losing streak and at the end of the bet he only has a few bets left and thinks in annoyance of trying to go all in with all the rest of his budget to try to recover his budget and to be honest I often do this if I feel annoyed betting on roulette but losing streak came and when I was all in, I said "ah never mind, this is the last bet, it will definitely win".
sometimes these instincts can be right and recover, but more often they fail and I fully support your opinion on this.

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December 10, 2023, 08:41:02 AM
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This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

From a gamblers point of view I can understand that, we spend a lot of money and feel entitled for a big win after a losing streak. Unfortunately, this is not how gambling works, the casino games are based on mathematics and statistics. One of the most important things in gambling we need to remember is that each round is independent from the previous ones. It doesn't matter if there was 10 or 20 times in a row red at the roulette table, the chance for black to come next round is exactly the same. Humans like to see patterns, which is why our brain tells us that there will be black next round, or that we deserve to win now after a losing streak. This also makes chasing losses very risky and I try to avoid it as much as possible.
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If we bet by handing over all the money we have or what is better known as "All in", that is nothing but carelessness. But even so, there are still many people who behave like that, they complain about their fate in gambling.
usually, something like this happens because they always lose in the previous game and want to back all their capital quickly. we can't blame them because this nature happens to every gambler. I've done it and sometimes succeeded in returning my loss. but it does require very precise calculations, if done blindly, the player will lose all his money like before. Players like this always rely on their instinct then calculation, so it looks sloppy and greedy.
Those who gamble using All In usually feel hopeless because they have experienced consecutive losses and have not managed to win, so they decide to bet all their money on one spin and hope that they will win their bet. But most people will lose all their money on that last chance and will regret making a hasty decision. I have never done it because I remember my experience in trading where I once used all in the amount of money I had to buy one coin but it turned out that the coin didn't manage to rise for a long time so that made me have to wait a long time. That is why it is very risky if we use all in for gambling because it will immediately use up all the money we have.

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December 10, 2023, 10:21:34 AM
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Yes if your emotion work when you are gambling then finally one day you will lose everything. Beacose emotional gambling force you to do over gamble and over gambling is harmful habit. When you face losses then emotion force you to recover the loss at time but your brain don't work properly that time you bit wrong gamble. That's the reason emotional gambler lose itself.
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December 10, 2023, 10:28:42 AM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
It's not always about knowing your net worth or income, once you develop this target in your mind using gambling, you will spend a lot to see it come true, and this is the biggest problem any gambler can have, even if you are making good income you can still ruin your life by having a target through gambling, all the pain you went through at work to get paid every month will be forgotten and you won't mind risking it all on gambling.

When you are trying to build something in your life, maybe you have a project you are working on, and you instead give face to gambling, your dream is toasted, you have sold your focus to gambling, that's why this is not for everyone, if you can't handle gambling as fun you are in for a big problem.  

At one point you won't know what to do with your life, you will be lost and you will be in the same problem as someone who start gambling and have no job or any source of income, the oy differences is you having a income you can take risks with no worries but if you are not a responsible gambler you won't end up with anything, either way that makes you same with someone who have no source of income.

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December 10, 2023, 10:31:03 AM
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If we bet by handing over all the money we have or what is better known as "All in", that is nothing but carelessness. But even so, there are still many people who behave like that, they complain about their fate in gambling.
usually, something like this happens because they always lose in the previous game and want to back all their capital quickly. we can't blame them because this nature happens to every gambler. I've done it and sometimes succeeded in returning my loss. but it does require very precise calculations, if done blindly, the player will lose all his money like before. Players like this always rely on their instinct then calculation, so it looks sloppy and greedy.
I call it frustration when a gambler experiences a losing streak and at the end of the bet he only has a few bets left and thinks in annoyance of trying to go all in with all the rest of his budget to try to recover his budget and to be honest I often do this if I feel annoyed betting on roulette but losing streak came and when I was all in, I said "ah never mind, this is the last bet, it will definitely win".
sometimes these instincts can be right and recover, but more often they fail and I fully support your opinion on this.

And when someone has started to get frustrated about a bet or gambling that he does. The person will completely lose control of his gambling because he is too ambitious to pursue victory. Which in the end only deepens the loss.
And such people are people who are unable to enjoy the gambling they do, they reason that gambling is for fun, but when they lose they feel regret. He said that gambling is a place to relieve stress, but after getting a loss makes them even more stressed and frustrated about the final result of his gambling.
When we get consecutive losses, it is better to take a break from the activity so that our emotions can subside a little. And if you plan to be able to return the losses you have experienced, then go home, hone your knowledge and skills in betting or gambling. Because we cannot make a precise calculation if we are still in an emotional state.

And if we are quite hesitant in gambling, then it would be better if we undo the intention to play gambling.

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December 11, 2023, 08:54:46 AM
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The compassionate gambler loses themselves this is right because there are many gamblers who become so addicted that they can't stop themselves knowing the harmful side of it so at some point they lose everything and live a life of despair. It is foolish to control your emotions in gambling and expect to win even if you suffer losses. Also they keep running after the victory no one can give the exact news of when the victory will be here. People with gambling addiction often overthink gambling they can constantly plan their next gambling session. Therefore if the probability of losing is high it is better to proceed with rest for a few days in which case the probability of losing gamblers will be reduced a lot.
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December 11, 2023, 12:26:02 PM
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If we bet by handing over all the money we have or what is better known as "All in", that is nothing but carelessness. But even so, there are still many people who behave like that, they complain about their fate in gambling.
usually, something like this happens because they always lose in the previous game and want to back all their capital quickly. we can't blame them because this nature happens to every gambler. I've done it and sometimes succeeded in returning my loss. but it does require very precise calculations, if done blindly, the player will lose all his money like before. Players like this always rely on their instinct then calculation, so it looks sloppy and greedy.
I call it frustration when a gambler experiences a losing streak and at the end of the bet he only has a few bets left and thinks in annoyance of trying to go all in with all the rest of his budget to try to recover his budget and to be honest I often do this if I feel annoyed betting on roulette but losing streak came and when I was all in, I said "ah never mind, this is the last bet, it will definitely win".
sometimes these instincts can be right and recover, but more often they fail and I fully support your opinion on this.

And when someone has started to get frustrated about a bet or gambling that he does. The person will completely lose control of his gambling because he is too ambitious to pursue victory. Which in the end only deepens the loss.
And such people are people who are unable to enjoy the gambling they do, they reason that gambling is for fun, but when they lose they feel regret. He said that gambling is a place to relieve stress, but after getting a loss makes them even more stressed and frustrated about the final result of his gambling.
When we get consecutive losses, it is better to take a break from the activity so that our emotions can subside a little. And if you plan to be able to return the losses you have experienced, then go home, hone your knowledge and skills in betting or gambling. Because we cannot make a precise calculation if we are still in an emotional state.

And if we are quite hesitant in gambling, then it would be better if we undo the intention to play gambling.
You make a very valid point about the dangers of gambling while one's emotions are running high. The truth is that we are frequently fooled by the seduction of "easy money." Feeling that we are the exception rather than the rule, we dive in headfirst. But as you correctly said, frustration leads to more losses. A vicious cycle exists! To put it bluntly, no amount of ability or understanding can ensure success when gambling. How come? Since luck is a major factor, it's not merely a skill-based game. Not to mention that the house is perpetually on the brink

Why not take an intellectual approach to betting if you're truly into it? For example, sports betting is more than just choosing teams; it's also about being aware of the players, the game, and the statistics. Experienced gamblers take hours to analyze before they place a wager for a reason. But ultimately, keep in mind that it's still a gamble. Don't pursue losses; instead, set boundaries and adhere to them. It is about using a calculated approach to your betting, not just a rash one. You should immediately back off if it becomes less enjoyable

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December 11, 2023, 01:32:49 PM
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The compassionate gambler loses themselves this is right because there are many gamblers who become so addicted that they can't stop themselves knowing the harmful side of it so at some point they lose everything and live a life of despair. It is foolish to control your emotions in gambling and expect to win even if you suffer losses. Also they keep running after the victory no one can give the exact news of when the victory will be here. People with gambling addiction often overthink gambling they can constantly plan their next gambling session. Therefore if the probability of losing is high it is better to proceed with rest for a few days in which case the probability of losing gamblers will be reduced a lot.

even occasional gamblers can easily get addicted to gambling, if they are not too careful observing their boundaries. what more with regular gamblers? this is why it is very understandable if a gambler can easily lose himself in the process while in front of their games.
but to avoid getting rekkt on this game, whether you are just occasional or regular gambler, you should always do take note before you even begin to sit down how much you can spend for every session.

to help yourself about setting-up your limits, much better to deposit only the amount that you think you can very well afford to lose for that day or for that particular session. if you lost your bankroll too fast, it doesn't mean, you need to deposit more but much better if you call it a day, and just go back when you have spare funds again.

frequent check of how you are doing with your funds as well as your emotional well-being will keep yourself at bay with your gambling habits.

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The compassionate gambler loses themselves this is right because there are many gamblers who become so addicted that they can't stop themselves knowing the harmful side of it so at some point they lose everything and live a life of despair. It is foolish to control your emotions in gambling and expect to win even if you suffer losses. Also they keep running after the victory no one can give the exact news of when the victory will be here. People with gambling addiction often overthink gambling they can constantly plan their next gambling session. Therefore if the probability of losing is high it is better to proceed with rest for a few days in which case the probability of losing gamblers will be reduced a lot.
This is true and has been experienced by many gamblers who lose control of themselves in gambling, so they experience despair in gambling and end up losing a lot of money, especially if they chase their winnings. Those who know that there are gamblers who have lost a lot do feel sadness and sympathize with the gambler, but if the gambler doesn't try to change what he has done, people won't care anymore. They will allow gamblers who don't want to wake themselves up from their gambling addiction so that people will only look at them until the gambler asks them for help. That is why gamblers who have lost a few dollars should immediately take a break for a few days so that they can recover their emotions and relieve their tension after receiving everything they have experienced from gambling.

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You make a very valid point about the dangers of gambling while one's emotions are running high. The truth is that we are frequently fooled by the seduction of "easy money." Feeling that we are the exception rather than the rule, we dive in headfirst. But as you correctly said, frustration leads to more losses. A vicious cycle exists! To put it bluntly, no amount of ability or understanding can ensure success when gambling. How come? Since luck is a major factor, it's not merely a skill-based game. Not to mention that the house is perpetually on the brink

Why not take an intellectual approach to betting if you're truly into it? For example, sports betting is more than just choosing teams; it's also about being aware of the players, the game, and the statistics. Experienced gamblers take hours to analyze before they place a wager for a reason. But ultimately, keep in mind that it's still a gamble. Don't pursue losses; instead, set boundaries and adhere to them. It is about using a calculated approach to your betting, not just a rash one. You should immediately back off if it becomes less enjoyable

Why don't they take an intellectual approach to increase the probability of winning in every betting session? In accordance with what you said, that they gamble because they want to get easy and instant money. They are fixated on the end game and expect a big win. They forget to enjoy the process. Even long before analyzing, they already imagine that by betting they can get a big profit. But they forget that to get a big win, then as much as possible he must do a good analysis by taking into account everything and every possibility that will occur.

This is what makes a person reluctant to make an intellectual approach. Because they think that it is something complicated. Meanwhile, the reason they gamble or bet is so that they can get money easily and instantly, without going through a complicated process.

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The compassionate gambler loses themselves this is right because there are many gamblers who become so addicted that they can't stop themselves knowing the harmful side of it so at some point they lose everything and live a life of despair. It is foolish to control your emotions in gambling and expect to win even if you suffer losses. Also they keep running after the victory no one can give the exact news of when the victory will be here. People with gambling addiction often overthink gambling they can constantly plan their next gambling session. Therefore if the probability of losing is high it is better to proceed with rest for a few days in which case the probability of losing gamblers will be reduced a lot.
This is true and has been experienced by many gamblers who lose control of themselves in gambling, so they experience despair in gambling and end up losing a lot of money, especially if they chase their winnings. Those who know that there are gamblers who have lost a lot do feel sadness and sympathize with the gambler, but if the gambler doesn't try to change what he has done, people won't care anymore. They will allow gamblers who don't want to wake themselves up from their gambling addiction so that people will only look at them until the gambler asks them for help. That is why gamblers who have lost a few dollars should immediately take a break for a few days so that they can recover their emotions and relieve their tension after receiving everything they have experienced from gambling.

I think the bad impact like that is quite natural for them to experience as a result of their actions and point of view  on gambling that is always excessive by putting hope in a place that is basically not recommendeed at all to bring a mindset to produce. Experiencing a large amount of defeat is indeed quite alarming, everyone will certainly  regret the bad luck they have to face, but that's the result. If I were around them then there might not be much I would do or even just advice I would not isssue..

Let it go because for someone who has entered the addiction zone it is very difficult to give advice, they have difficulty digesting some of the advice they get from other people based on common sense, differences in beliefs are one of the main causes. So maybe it's just a matter of time, I'm sure they will really be able to realize when they feel traumatized by the impact they receive / experience from excessive gambling. Another thing is that you must understand that the moree often you are involved in gambling, the greater the possibility of unwanted things happening, I think this understanding is specifically for those who are still not too severe in their involvement.

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December 13, 2023, 03:24:40 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
It's not always about knowing your net worth or income, once you develop this target in your mind using gambling, you will spend a lot to see it come true, and this is the biggest problem any gambler can have, even if you are making good income you can still ruin your life by having a target through gambling, all the pain you went through at work to get paid every month will be forgotten and you won't mind risking it all on gambling.
Your income determines your net worth and at your worth you determines your financial budgets including your gambling budgets.
So the reality thing here is that such emotional gamblers grows weak contradicting its tended gambling reputations after witnessing a co. gambler who has lost more than they do.
Meanwhile in the first place the gambler feels the guilts of his lost games but sudden develops the intense emotions that play, good. I thought I had the worse lost and now I have seen a gambler who just lost more than I did. At such point in time, this emotional gambler has developed some sort of false hope consolidating himself without considering of the other gambler who has lost more than him has a more better financial incomes. So basically the gambler who has lost more may not have the feelings that he has lost a dime probably his net worth is worth than what he has lost or he was only gambling for fun while the others emotional gambler could be gambling desperately focused to make profits.

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And when someone has started to get frustrated about a bet or gambling that he does. The person will completely lose control of his gambling because he is too ambitious to pursue victory. Which in the end only deepens the loss.
And such people are people who are unable to enjoy the gambling they do, they reason that gambling is for fun, but when they lose they feel regret. He said that gambling is a place to relieve stress, but after getting a loss makes them even more stressed and frustrated about the final result of his gambling.
When we get consecutive losses, it is better to take a break from the activity so that our emotions can subside a little. And if you plan to be able to return the losses you have experienced, then go home, hone your knowledge and skills in betting or gambling. Because we cannot make a precise calculation if we are still in an emotional state.

And if we are quite hesitant in gambling, then it would be better if we undo the intention to play gambling.
a very common condition that often occurs in any gambler when wherever he is, he says gambling is just for entertainment but always feels annoyed and frustrated chasing his losses, even almost all gamblers still make this mistake and the right way to manage this is so as not to lose self control by how to know the right time and force yourself to stop when you lose like you said.
by forcing yourself to stop when you lose, this may be a little difficult, but strengthen our minds with the fear of losing money and in this way, a gambler will definitely value his money and be afraid to continue his betting session and choose to stop betting. even though at first it is very difficult and you still have regrets, be sure that those regrets will soon disappear after a few hours and dont try to reopen the gambling situation as long as your state of mind not feel comfortable.

for me, some of these methods will work better for all gamblers, but it still all depends on each individual will and if you want to gamble healthily to avoid addiction, it would be better to do whatever other people suggest and never ignore any small things or If not, these small things can lose your self control and you can experience reckless fighting.
the last suggestion might be to always remember how gambling works and never assume this is a place to make money because money can corrupt our minds and we cannot control ourselves.

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And when someone has started to get frustrated about a bet or gambling that he does. The person will completely lose control of his gambling because he is too ambitious to pursue victory. Which in the end only deepens the loss.
And such people are people who are unable to enjoy the gambling they do, they reason that gambling is for fun, but when they lose they feel regret. He said that gambling is a place to relieve stress, but after getting a loss makes them even more stressed and frustrated about the final result of his gambling.
When we get consecutive losses, it is better to take a break from the activity so that our emotions can subside a little. And if you plan to be able to return the losses you have experienced, then go home, hone your knowledge and skills in betting or gambling. Because we cannot make a precise calculation if we are still in an emotional state.

And if we are quite hesitant in gambling, then it would be better if we undo the intention to play gambling.
a very common condition that often occurs in any gambler when wherever he is, he says gambling is just for entertainment but always feels annoyed and frustrated chasing his losses, even almost all gamblers still make this mistake and the right way to manage this is so as not to lose self control by how to know the right time and force yourself to stop when you lose like you said.
by forcing yourself to stop when you lose, this may be a little difficult, but strengthen our minds with the fear of losing money and in this way, a gambler will definitely value his money and be afraid to continue his betting session and choose to stop betting. even though at first it is very difficult and you still have regrets, be sure that those regrets will soon disappear after a few hours and dont try to reopen the gambling situation as long as your state of mind not feel comfortable.

for me, some of these methods will work better for all gamblers, but it still all depends on each individual will and if you want to gamble healthily to avoid addiction, it would be better to do whatever other people suggest and never ignore any small things or If not, these small things can lose your self control and you can experience reckless fighting.
the last suggestion might be to always remember how gambling works and never assume this is a place to make money because money can corrupt our minds and we cannot control ourselves.
A small line separates entertainment and compulsion. It's encouraging that you recognise this difficult balance. Isn't it true that gambling should be fun, not frustrating? Stopping at the right time is an art, as you suggest. This demands a deep awareness of limitations. Self-awareness in gambling is commonly underestimated. Don't just focus on money - control the experience

The fear of financial loss can deter. But, could we perhaps reframe this approach? Instead of fear, let's talk about respect - respect for one's hard-earned money and respect for the unpredictability of gambling. Respecting these elements changes our perspective. Gamble for pleasure, not loses. It makes us more aware of our actions, right? The goal is to value amusement while being mindful of the risks. It takes experience and persistence, but it's possible

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December 14, 2023, 05:08:21 PM
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a very common condition that often occurs in any gambler when wherever he is, he says gambling is just for entertainment but always feels annoyed and frustrated chasing his losses, even almost all gamblers still make this mistake and the right way to manage this is so as not to lose self control by how to know the right time and force yourself to stop when you lose like you said.
by forcing yourself to stop when you lose, this may be a little difficult, but strengthen our minds with the fear of losing money and in this way, a gambler will definitely value his money and be afraid to continue his betting session and choose to stop betting. even though at first it is very difficult and you still have regrets, be sure that those regrets will soon disappear after a few hours and dont try to reopen the gambling situation as long as your state of mind not feel comfortable.

for me, some of these methods will work better for all gamblers, but it still all depends on each individual will and if you want to gamble healthily to avoid addiction, it would be better to do whatever other people suggest and never ignore any small things or If not, these small things can lose your self control and you can experience reckless fighting.
the last suggestion might be to always remember how gambling works and never assume this is a place to make money because money can corrupt our minds and we cannot control ourselves.

We need to involve emotions when doing gambling activities, because without an emotion, the betting and gambling we do will be mediocre. But when these emotions are not well controlled, then this can change our behavior when playing gambling, where we become a little careless when gambling. And when we are too ambitious to pursue victory, then what happens, our emotions will be even more uncontrollable and we will really behave carelessly, such as increasing the amount of bets crazily and making deposits without a certain amount limit. Which in the end can only lead us to a big loss.

In gambling, we should  not be afraid to get defeated. Because that's part of the risk in gambling. What we need to fear is the loss of control over ourselves when gambling. Because when we have lost control, the situation will change.

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December 14, 2023, 05:18:30 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
A lot of gamblers do not have gambling budget, they gamble until they are completely burnt. I consider this careless habit as addiction because it is only addiction that can keep someone hopeful even when it is obvious that day was not his day.

To enjoy gambling, one must be able to take it formally as a business and draw up budget that should be managed meticulous, employing the highest form of discipline to follow these pre-gambling decisions. You don't expect to go far in gambling when you follow it casually, gambling upon receipt of any funds.

When there is failure in planning, then all the outlined facial expressions of pains and agony are inevitable.

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December 14, 2023, 05:37:24 PM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

When you gamble more than you can afford to lose, what did you expect to happen when you lose, there is no way happiness will reside around you when if you lose but when you gamble with a moderate amount that you can confidently overlook, trust me you will feel absolutely nothing if anything should happen or if you loose consecutively.

I have people that have lost the entire amount of money I have bet throughout my adventure in gambling but I think everyone is responsible for their actions, if you can wager half a million I believe you have that power shoulder the loss and if I bet $1 to a game, I believe that's the amount I can afford to lose and I don't have to compare my loss to what others have loss because I believe we haven't win the same amounts.

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This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

If you go bankrupt gambling, you should have yourself to be blame, I don't think I can feel for such person because it's irresponsibly of a gambler to rise from having money to live comfortably to having nothing at the end. It's always on my repeat plan, don't gamble with the amount you can't afford to lose, isn't that difficult, isn't?

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December 15, 2023, 01:38:35 AM
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We need to involve emotions when doing gambling activities, because without an emotion, the betting and gambling we do will be mediocre. But when these emotions are not well controlled, then this can change our behavior when playing gambling, where we become a little careless when gambling. And when we are too ambitious to pursue victory, then what happens, our emotions will be even more uncontrollable and we will really behave carelessly, such as increasing the amount of bets crazily and making deposits without a certain amount limit. Which in the end can only lead us to a big loss.

In gambling, we should  not be afraid to get defeated. Because that's part of the risk in gambling. What we need to fear is the loss of control over ourselves when gambling. Because when we have lost control, the situation will change.
I previously said that if you overdo something without being able to control it, it will usually have a bad impact, such as when you gamble you have to use emotions and those emotions are too much, in the end you can't control them and you get bad effects from the excess. but in this concept it seems that it is not an emotion that is needed to gamble but a sense of self confidence that is needed by gamblers but if that self confidence is excessive it also ends in bad things such as when you place a bet and a losing streak drains your budget but you still have a sense of trust. big self that you can win after a losing streak and make a deposit several times losing, ignoring the bad impact of spending all your savings just following your own overconfident thoughts.
so it's not emotion that a bettor needs but only self confidence but not something excessive.

losses are bound to happen and as a gambler you have to understand this because 90% of what is related to gambling only benefits the casino owner because this business was built to make a profit for the casino owner and only provides a place to facilitate gamblers to have fun. so losing is a natural thing that must be accepted by gamblers.
and in this case it is not just a fear of losing oneself but also a fear of addiction because of losing control of one's mind and this thought should really be paid attention to by gamblers so that they can continue to gamble safely.

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December 15, 2023, 01:57:01 AM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

Everyone who gambles has a budget or limit to his expenses on gambling, once you breakout of that threshold, it becomes a problem.
The challenge is that loads of people have no idea that they have a budget, simply because you have $1000 in your bank account doesn't mean that the allowable amount for gambling is $1000. The ignorance of this simple knowledge has been the bedrock of the whole concept behind irresponsible gambling graduated into bankruptcy

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December 15, 2023, 02:21:33 AM
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Yes if your emotion work when you are gambling then finally one day you will lose everything. Beacose emotional gambling force you to do over gamble and over gambling is harmful habit. When you face losses then emotion force you to recover the loss at time but your brain don't work properly that time you bit wrong gamble. That's the reason emotional gambler lose itself.
If we cannot control our emotions when gambling, of course the gambling we play will end very quickly because if we play in an emotional state, of course we will be very greedy in hunting for the winnings we want, of course this is not very good for us and also our financial condition. we have.
It would be better in the gambling that we play that we can control ourselves and don't just hunt for victory so that we can't control ourselves when playing the game so that the money we have is used up for gambling.

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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

Everyone who gambles has a budget or limit to his expenses on gambling, once you breakout of that threshold, it becomes a problem.
The challenge is that loads of people have no idea that they have a budget, simply because you have $1000 in your bank account doesn't mean that the allowable amount for gambling is $1000. The ignorance of this simple knowledge has been the bedrock of the whole concept behind irresponsible gambling graduated into bankruptcy
Even the concept of a budget is foreign to most people since they do not save any money at all from their monthly pay, it is because this is so common that governments eventually created their pension systems as otherwise most people will literally have to work all their lives.

However a person that used a budget and stick to it will soon find themselves with a nice amount of savings, which can later be used to invest and increase their wealth.
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December 16, 2023, 12:27:25 AM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

Everyone who gambles has a budget or limit to his expenses on gambling, once you breakout of that threshold, it becomes a problem.
The challenge is that loads of people have no idea that they have a budget, simply because you have $1000 in your bank account doesn't mean that the allowable amount for gambling is $1000. The ignorance of this simple knowledge has been the bedrock of the whole concept behind irresponsible gambling graduated into bankruptcy
Even the concept of a budget is foreign to most people since they do not save any money at all from their monthly pay, it is because this is so common that governments eventually created their pension systems as otherwise most people will literally have to work all their lives.

However a person that used a budget and stick to it will soon find themselves with a nice amount of savings, which can later be used to invest and increase their wealth.

In the case that these things happen, it is because we have seen that there are many ways to manage money, so it is always better to consider what we are willing to lose in money, if in any of the cases we make a possible balance to lose, Suppose you have 100usd to lose in a single game session, that's perfect, it seems excellent to me, because later if in the final case of losing you have to assume what was lost and now, if we deposit after that we are doing everything wrong, we are breaking our own rules, and that is what problems are generated, I have always seen that when a person breaks their own rules everything goes wrong, and that is something that we must avoid because if we break our own rules, as we can do? Well, losing more money, and that is what should be avoided, we in the game must be intelligent, not get carried away by emotions and be beaten.

In a casino, as in everything in life, consider that you have to have an order for everything, because every time we do an activity the only way for everything to turn out well is that there is an order but there is nothing else, I believe that many people when they enter a casino have plans that are not close to reality, they think a lot about what they can win but not what they can lose, and that is something that we must always consider, because it is stepping on land, it is not build castles in the air and not get excited about anything, then you have to see things for the reality of what they imply, and as I have said on many occasions, the most important thing and what must be taken care of is money, without money we cannot do nothing, for that reason we must always do the best for ourselves, take care of the money, allocate the money that we are willing to lose and always play seeking to win without losing control, not putting in extra money so as not to get into trouble, it is very ugly to be left without money and less than money that we already have committed.

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December 16, 2023, 02:30:40 AM
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The compassionate gambler loses themselves this is right because there are many gamblers who become so addicted that they can't stop themselves knowing the harmful side of it so at some point they lose everything and live a life of despair. It is foolish to control your emotions in gambling and expect to win even if you suffer losses. Also they keep running after the victory no one can give the exact news of when the victory will be here. People with gambling addiction often overthink gambling they can constantly plan their next gambling session. Therefore if the probability of losing is high it is better to proceed with rest for a few days in which case the probability of losing gamblers will be reduced a lot.
This is true and has been experienced by many gamblers who lose control of themselves in gambling, so they experience despair in gambling and end up losing a lot of money, especially if they chase their winnings. Those who know that there are gamblers who have lost a lot do feel sadness and sympathize with the gambler, but if the gambler doesn't try to change what he has done, people won't care anymore. They will allow gamblers who don't want to wake themselves up from their gambling addiction so that people will only look at them until the gambler asks them for help. That is why gamblers who have lost a few dollars should immediately take a break for a few days so that they can recover their emotions and relieve their tension after receiving everything they have experienced from gambling.
This feeling of sympathy is only feeling that might occur to those gamblers who have not really become crazy addicts because when there are gambling addicts who are really crazy, let alone feelings of sympathy, there will be no thoughts of helping either.
Only the gambler himself can change it and only the gambler himself must care about the problems he experiences due to losses and bad impacts and it is not other people who feel it but himself, sometimes people don't think about it this way.
Gambling addiction is very serious problem and even now there is no truly effective way to cure it and perhaps there are many ways that have been suggested by most people, including myself but that is no guarantee.
But in my opinion, the most effective way to control gambling addiction is when gambling addict has lost all the valuable things he has as result of gambling, this will cause regret and disappointment until he finally decides to reduce the intensity of his gambling.
Bad experiences are the greatest teacher for someone to change for the better, it doesn't matter if he feels deep regret, it doesn't matter if he loses all his money and wealth, but after that he comes to his senses and tries to recover like normal person.
Indeed, prevention is better than cure, but gambler who is truly addicted will not be able to do it, what they need is an event that can stress their mental state and mind so they can recover quickly.

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December 16, 2023, 09:02:23 AM
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a very common condition that often occurs in any gambler when wherever he is, he says gambling is just for entertainment but always feels annoyed and frustrated chasing his losses
People or gamblers who say they gamble just for entertainment and then become frustrated after losing and chasing their losses are big liars because someone who gambles just for fun would never become frustrated after losing or chasing their losses. After all, only a gambler to earn money from gambling will have these things in them and people who gamble just for fun and entertainment barely have such feelings or act this way at all.

If I were to gamble only to entertain myself, have some fun, and enjoy my time when I have some, I would never feel bad if I lost as long as I got entertained and enjoyed the time I spent in the casino. But, if I'm gambling to earn money, and my only aim is to gain more money with my money, I will surely get frustrated or angry after I lose, and I will chase my losses as well.

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December 16, 2023, 09:15:50 AM
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I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
That is a very wrong way to see things. And funny enough that is how some gamblers approaches the matter. Do will not consider how much they earn and how much the person they are looking upto earns. There speedy conclusion is always, he is my fellow man, he has lost $2k and still alive, is it this $200 that I lost that will kill me. They will not even consider of the person they are looking upto earns much more higher than they do. They will also not consider if the person has recently won big and decided to return some portion of their winnings to the casino.

If is high time we stopped comparing ourselves to others and focus on ourselves and our budget and take gambling as fun. Emotions differs and the mind to bear losses differ too. Someone who earns $100 daily can be able to lose $10k and still remain strong while someone that earns $200 daily will be devastated if he loses $2k

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December 16, 2023, 09:28:03 AM
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a very common condition that often occurs in any gambler when wherever he is, he says gambling is just for entertainment but always feels annoyed and frustrated chasing his losses
People or gamblers who say they gamble just for entertainment and then become frustrated after losing and chasing their losses are big liars because someone who gambles just for fun would never become frustrated after losing or chasing their losses. After all, only a gambler to earn money from gambling will have these things in them and people who gamble just for fun and entertainment barely have such feelings or act this way at all.

If I were to gamble only to entertain myself, have some fun, and enjoy my time when I have some, I would never feel bad if I lost as long as I got entertained and enjoyed the time I spent in the casino. But, if I'm gambling to earn money, and my only aim is to gain more money with my money, I will surely get frustrated or angry after I lose, and I will chase my losses as well.
What makes a gambler start to get emotional when gambling? if it's not for money or they don't get what they want, for example winning, then don't intend to gamble to make money because it will make us emotional and try to recover from losses if we don't really achieve our goals, the point is, don't ever hope for more from gambling than just for fun, just for entertainment.

If that is done I think everyone will not start to feel emotional just because they experience defeat, there are many gamblers who really don't understand losing so they consider it something disappointing even though it is part of gambling which until now people have always considered winning and Wealth is the most important part of gambling because actually losing is also a part that must be realized too.

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December 16, 2023, 03:36:03 PM
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The compassionate gambler loses themselves this is right because there are many gamblers who become so addicted that they can't stop themselves knowing the harmful side of it so at some point they lose everything and live a life of despair. It is foolish to control your emotions in gambling and expect to win even if you suffer losses. Also they keep running after the victory no one can give the exact news of when the victory will be here. People with gambling addiction often overthink gambling they can constantly plan their next gambling session. Therefore if the probability of losing is high it is better to proceed with rest for a few days in which case the probability of losing gamblers will be reduced a lot.
This is true and has been experienced by many gamblers who lose control of themselves in gambling, so they experience despair in gambling and end up losing a lot of money, especially if they chase their winnings. Those who know that there are gamblers who have lost a lot do feel sadness and sympathize with the gambler, but if the gambler doesn't try to change what he has done, people won't care anymore. They will allow gamblers who don't want to wake themselves up from their gambling addiction so that people will only look at them until the gambler asks them for help. That is why gamblers who have lost a few dollars should immediately take a break for a few days so that they can recover their emotions and relieve their tension after receiving everything they have experienced from gambling.
This feeling of sympathy is only feeling that might occur to those gamblers who have not really become crazy addicts because when there are gambling addicts who are really crazy, let alone feelings of sympathy, there will be no thoughts of helping either.
Only the gambler himself can change it and only the gambler himself must care about the problems he experiences due to losses and bad impacts and it is not other people who feel it but himself, sometimes people don't think about it this way.
Gambling addiction is very serious problem and even now there is no truly effective way to cure it and perhaps there are many ways that have been suggested by most people, including myself but that is no guarantee.
But in my opinion, the most effective way to control gambling addiction is when gambling addict has lost all the valuable things he has as result of gambling, this will cause regret and disappointment until he finally decides to reduce the intensity of his gambling.
Bad experiences are the greatest teacher for someone to change for the better, it doesn't matter if he feels deep regret, it doesn't matter if he loses all his money and wealth, but after that he comes to his senses and tries to recover like normal person.
Indeed, prevention is better than cure, but gambler who is truly addicted will not be able to do it, what they need is an event that can stress their mental state and mind so they can recover quickly.
Many see rock bottom as a wake-up call that inspires transformation. Classic story of loss and self-realization. Human psychology is complex, but life and addiction professionals must acknowledge it. Cant losing everything lead to a hazardous spiral of sorrow rather than enlightenment for some? Addiction is a crafty beast that tricks the mind into thinking the next wager would fix everything. This desperate mindset can be self-destructive.

For us, proactive intervention can save the day. Not waiting for the gambler to lose everything, but supporting them while they're on the brink. Support groups, therapy, and medication can be crucial. The gambler must desire to change, but shouldnt we aid them before they fall? Empower them to spot the problem early and provide them the tools and support to act. This makes recovery a therapeutic journey, not just a loss.

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December 16, 2023, 03:43:06 PM
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What makes a gambler start to get emotional when gambling? if it's not for money or they don't get what they want, for example winning, then don't intend to gamble to make money because it will make us emotional and try to recover from losses if we don't really achieve our goals, the point is, don't ever hope for more from gambling than just for fun, just for entertainment.

If that is done I think everyone will not start to feel emotional just because they experience defeat, there are many gamblers who really don't understand losing so they consider it something disappointing even though it is part of gambling which until now people have always considered winning and Wealth is the most important part of gambling because actually losing is also a part that must be realized too.

The emotions derived from playing a game are not always dependent on winning and losing. People are most often trying to get a nervous release or feel a rush of andrealin. A person just wants to somehow diversify his gray everyday life and break out of routine. Even in such a very risky way
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If is high time we stopped comparing ourselves to others and focus on ourselves and our budget and take gambling as fun. Emotions differs and the mind to bear losses differ too. Someone who earns $100 daily can be able to lose $10k and still remain strong while someone that earns $200 daily will be devastated if he loses $2k

I think you example is not right or you have done some mistakes here. But this is true that we should not compare ourselves to someone else. specially in case of money,
Maybe they have a business which earns them hundred, thousands daily so they will not think day and night about 10k loss but, normal people like us who do some jobs.
and earn a fraction salary of that businessman and lost 10k. i will be huge and people can even kill themselve or be in a huge debt and think about it day and night.
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December 17, 2023, 04:12:22 AM
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a very common condition that often occurs in any gambler when wherever he is, he says gambling is just for entertainment but always feels annoyed and frustrated chasing his losses
People or gamblers who say they gamble just for entertainment and then become frustrated after losing and chasing their losses are big liars because someone who gambles just for fun would never become frustrated after losing or chasing their losses. After all, only a gambler to earn money from gambling will have these things in them and people who gamble just for fun and entertainment barely have such feelings or act this way at all.

If I were to gamble only to entertain myself, have some fun, and enjoy my time when I have some, I would never feel bad if I lost as long as I got entertained and enjoyed the time I spent in the casino. But, if I'm gambling to earn money, and my only aim is to gain more money with my money, I will surely get frustrated or angry after I lose, and I will chase my losses as well.
but actually it doesn't matter if you lose, feeling annoyed or angry, that's a normal condition, but the concept of our mind that must be changed is that you only think of gambling as really like a game that entertains you in your free time and if you expect to win, that's also very normal, but the mindset We must be strengthened again by thinking that this is just a game.
so whatever happens, if we have a strong mindset not to think of gambling as a place to make money, we will definitely get used to losing, maybe we will be angry but we won't have the mind to chase after this loss.
With this, we will not be called liars when we say I gamble just for fun because we have strong evidence of our betting transactions which are always under control with low stakes, small budgets and never make deposits while we dont have free time.

but as I said before, it is possible that there will be a lot of gamblers who lie about this case because they just dont want to be considered careless gamblers so they brag that they are just looking for entertainment in gambling, even though they always make mistakes beyond their limits and do it too often, even I once saw 2 people and one person said that if he always wins he can always control his gambling but when his friend wants to see his transaction history he doesn't want to tell his friend and changes the conversation.
this means that it turns out that there are a lot of gamblers like this because they only cover up their bad behavior.

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December 17, 2023, 04:38:57 AM
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If is high time we stopped comparing ourselves to others and focus on ourselves and our budget and take gambling as fun. Emotions differs and the mind to bear losses differ too. Someone who earns $100 daily can be able to lose $10k and still remain strong while someone that earns $200 daily will be devastated if he loses $2k

I think you example is not right or you have done some mistakes here. But this is true that we should not compare ourselves to someone else. specially in case of money,
Maybe they have a business which earns them hundred, thousands daily so they will not think day and night about 10k loss but, normal people like us who do some jobs.
and earn a fraction salary of that businessman and lost 10k. i will be huge and people can even kill themselve or be in a huge debt and think about it day and night.
To make it short, any amount of loss can affect a stressful environment because that is money earned the hard way and yet lost quickly in gambling. To those who cannot handle this, they might as well quit gambling. In my opinion, a gambler should know the risk that he taking even if he will be betting small amounts. There are those who cannot afford the numbers that were mentioned and yet they can still feel the stress if they $1 - $5 just because they feel like they are cheated.
For me, both those who earned good and earned small will have the same emotion when they lose in gambling so the bankroll must be carefully checked, and try to be aware of how much an individual can afford to lose. It's a strategy to avoid stress and for a person to still have a good night's sleep even if all those funds are gone.
Also, accepting that the house always wins is better. That way, you will be happier when you win and it's easy to swallow it when you lose. I've been playing a lot of casino games in the past month and all I can say is the winning chance is way lower than we expect.

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December 17, 2023, 06:51:49 AM
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Don't do gamble emotionally because emotion is the main enemy when you gambling. Emotion force you to do over gamble when you are in loss that decision is totally wrong. Expats and maximum gambler do that when they faces losses for that time they stop doing gambling. That's the best way to not faces extra more losses. If your emotion highly work then stop gambling for this time and do relax and play again after some time in cold mind.
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December 17, 2023, 07:02:47 AM
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The general sentiment is that we all want favorable results for ourselves, but sometimes dissatisfaction makes us more confused, and with gambling this appears more often, I can speculate that partly The fault lies with the players themselves in their lack of understanding of what we are exposed to, and also in part with the attraction of the opportunity to make money through gambling. The way I feel happy with gambling may be the same or different from many people who don't care about profit/winning, so I know for sure that this game only brings joy even if I lose a lot let's look at the experience of gambling. Because of my life interacting with gambling addicts, I have also partly learned from them that uncontrolled use of money is a big risk.









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December 17, 2023, 08:56:46 AM
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Don't do gamble emotionally because emotion is the main enemy when you gambling. Emotion force you to do over gamble when you are in loss that decision is totally wrong. Expats and maximum gambler do that when they faces losses for that time they stop doing gambling. That's the best way to not faces extra more losses. If your emotion highly work then stop gambling for this time and do relax and play again after some time in cold mind.
You are right. When one gambler will go for gambling in most cases he will face issues with the emotions. But if the gambler cannot tackle it then it is natural that he will face loss Or his losses will increase. If you gamble with emotions, you will make wrong decisions to win again and again, and in the end it will be seen that the amount of loss is much higher. So I think always should avoid emotion in these cases and go into a strategy.

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You are right. When one gambler will go for gambling in most cases he will face issues with the emotions. But if the gambler cannot tackle it then it is natural that he will face loss Or his losses will increase. If you gamble with emotions, you will make wrong decisions to win again and again, and in the end it will be seen that the amount of loss is much higher. So I think always should avoid emotion in these cases and go into a strategy.
The more you can control your emotions while gambling, the more likely you are to win at gambling. I think gambling can be done if you have the right strategy to win. If a person can't control his emotions while gambling, he will never win at gambling.  I don't think you can. In order to win gambling, you must have a good experience with gambling and also have good luck. Gambling is easy as well as difficult gambling can make a person completely destitute and many people have become big people through this gambling.

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December 17, 2023, 11:02:03 PM
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You are right. When one gambler will go for gambling in most cases he will face issues with the emotions. But if the gambler cannot tackle it then it is natural that he will face loss Or his losses will increase. If you gamble with emotions, you will make wrong decisions to win again and again, and in the end it will be seen that the amount of loss is much higher. So I think always should avoid emotion in these cases and go into a strategy.
The more you can control your emotions while gambling, the more likely you are to win at gambling. I think gambling can be done if you have the right strategy to win. If a person can't control his emotions while gambling, he will never win at gambling.  I don't think you can. In order to win gambling, you must have a good experience with gambling and also have good luck. Gambling is easy as well as difficult gambling can make a person completely destitute and many people have become big people through this gambling.

Not entirely true, because controlling emotions and using strategy only applies to gambling such as soccer betting. For slot gambling you only need luck and how to manage gambling funds well and not be greedy. Luck remains number one because all systems have been set in such a way that gambling can be won by those who are lucky. Nothing is certain, all gambling has its own system, except for sports gambling which depends on the players or clubs supported.

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December 17, 2023, 11:19:57 PM
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The more you can control your emotions while gambling, the more likely you are to win at gambling. I think gambling can be done if you have the right strategy to win. If a person can't control his emotions while gambling, he will never win at gambling.  I don't think you can. In order to win gambling, you must have a good experience with gambling and also have good luck. Gambling is easy as well as difficult gambling can make a person completely destitute and many people have become big people through this gambling.

The gambler should learn to control their emotions in the gambling site at the beginning stage.Because he can’t able to control the same emotions later days,So after the loss of few dollars will leads to the complete loss by the emotional game in the gambling site.The right strategy will give more winning to the gamblers with their experience in the gambling site.The professional gambler may get many chances to make win in the gambling site,the less experienced gamblers may face some losses at the beginning stage of gambling game.The new gamblers should consider it as the game which they get some knowledge by the loss and loss lessons will be unforgettable one.
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December 17, 2023, 11:29:27 PM
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You are right. When one gambler will go for gambling in most cases he will face issues with the emotions. But if the gambler cannot tackle it then it is natural that he will face loss Or his losses will increase. If you gamble with emotions, you will make wrong decisions to win again and again, and in the end it will be seen that the amount of loss is much higher. So I think always should avoid emotion in these cases and go into a strategy.
The more you can control your emotions while gambling, the more likely you are to win at gambling. I think gambling can be done if you have the right strategy to win. If a person can't control his emotions while gambling, he will never win at gambling.  I don't think you can. In order to win gambling, you must have a good experience with gambling and also have good luck. Gambling is easy as well as difficult gambling can make a person completely destitute and many people have become big people through this gambling.

Not entirely true, because controlling emotions and using strategy only applies to gambling such as soccer betting. For slot gambling you only need luck and how to manage gambling funds well and not be greedy. Luck remains number one because all systems have been set in such a way that gambling can be won by those who are lucky. Nothing is certain, all gambling has its own system, except for sports gambling which depends on the players or clubs supported.
When we do talk about gambling then it would really be pertaining about luck and doesnt matter whether you are really that dealing with luck based or strategic ones. It would really be that entirely be depending on how lucky you are on such session. Before you would be touching up gambling then you should really know on what are the risks involved with it because if not then you would really be likely to be that impulsive when it comes to this manner. People do usually making up realizations on the time that they would be experiencing hardships or issues and this is something
that we should really be avoiding in the first place. Dont wait up for yourself to experience struggles before you would really be quitting up gambling.
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December 17, 2023, 11:29:47 PM
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Don't do gamble emotionally because emotion is the main enemy when you gambling. Emotion force you to do over gamble when you are in loss that decision is totally wrong.
I think that in everything we do, when need to be mindful with our emotions. Because that's not going to do us good when we're too emotional and that's going to affect us with how we handle things. When we gamble and we're feeling emotional, you're not going to do well because your mental capacity is being held by your emotion instead of focusing into the strategies that you may have and your focus with the time that you're gambling. And that results with mistakes and losses for which becomes a common thing if we're not careful enough with our emotions.

Expats and maximum gambler do that when they faces losses for that time they stop doing gambling. That's the best way to not faces extra more losses. If your emotion highly work then stop gambling for this time and do relax and play again after some time in cold mind.
Not all stops when they experience losing. Most of us continues and no one's going to stop us when we're highly emotional and all we think is that we're not loser and we have to recover even a bit from the losses that we've made. Or by just having the feeling of being a loser, we can't just accept that lightly and that's how emotions are triggering and affecting us and you gotta know yourself better.

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You are right. When one gambler will go for gambling in most cases he will face issues with the emotions. But if the gambler cannot tackle it then it is natural that he will face loss Or his losses will increase. If you gamble with emotions, you will make wrong decisions to win again and again, and in the end it will be seen that the amount of loss is much higher. So I think always should avoid emotion in these cases and go into a strategy.
While gambling we should follow some rules like gambling if we win a good amount of money then we should refrain from gambling and if we lose a large amount of money then we should refrain from gambling because then it will be difficult to control our emotions to lose.  There is a possibility of losing more money to recover the money, so then you should avoid gambling. You should avoid gambling with hasty decisions. If gambling can be played in this way, then it seems that there will be very little risk of losing money.


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You are right. When one gambler will go for gambling in most cases he will face issues with the emotions. But if the gambler cannot tackle it then it is natural that he will face loss Or his losses will increase. If you gamble with emotions, you will make wrong decisions to win again and again, and in the end it will be seen that the amount of loss is much higher. So I think always should avoid emotion in these cases and go into a strategy.
While gambling we should follow some rules like gambling if we win a good amount of money then we should refrain from gambling and if we lose a large amount of money then we should refrain from gambling because then it will be difficult to control our emotions to lose.  There is a possibility of losing more money to recover the money, so then you should avoid gambling. You should avoid gambling with hasty decisions. If gambling can be played in this way, then it seems that there will be very little risk of losing money.
Stopping while you are winning is the most hardest thing for you to do when you are in the middle of consecutive winning on which you would really be trying out to make yourself
to cherish out that luck that you are currently experience. It is really that too damn hard for you to resist out that greed on that particular time. There's no way that you could really be able
to control it out immediate because not all people would really be that disciplined enough when it comes to this. You wont really be that making yourself that getting addicted
if you are really just that having that good control but since not all would really be that mindful and sensible then this is where they do really mess up.
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December 18, 2023, 01:25:33 PM
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You are right. When one gambler will go for gambling in most cases he will face issues with the emotions. But if the gambler cannot tackle it then it is natural that he will face loss Or his losses will increase. If you gamble with emotions, you will make wrong decisions to win again and again, and in the end it will be seen that the amount of loss is much higher. So I think always should avoid emotion in these cases and go into a strategy.
The more you can control your emotions while gambling, the more likely you are to win at gambling. I think gambling can be done if you have the right strategy to win. If a person can't control his emotions while gambling, he will never win at gambling.  I don't think you can. In order to win gambling, you must have a good experience with gambling and also have good luck. Gambling is easy as well as difficult gambling can make a person completely destitute and many people have become big people through this gambling.

Yup, because if you know the limit of your gambling capacity and you don't give in to your emotions, then there is a greater possibility that you will be more successful in your gambling. I mean you are more likely to win some people control their emotions in order not to be greedy and avoid chasing losses.

I agree that It is also important that you have more experience in gambling and know some skills, but if you don't have any ability to know this field then it is better to try first and test if gambling is really for you. Some people are only influenced by their friends or colleagues and there are also other people who are just imitating other gamblers knowing that they don't have much experience and in the end, they will be sad because they lose more than winning.

That's why as a concerned citizen, who knows the status of their lifestyle is also unhappy to think that the money that should be spent on their daily life is just lost through irresponsible gambling.

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December 18, 2023, 09:05:37 PM
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When we do talk about gambling then it would really be pertaining about luck and doesnt matter whether you are really that dealing with luck based or strategic ones. It would really be that entirely be depending on how lucky you are on such session. Before you would be touching up gambling then you should really know on what are the risks involved with it because if not then you would really be likely to be that impulsive when it comes to this manner. People do usually making up realizations on the time that they would be experiencing hardships or issues and this is something
that we should really be avoiding in the first place. Dont wait up for yourself to experience struggles before you would really be quitting up gambling.

Impulsive actions are not good when it comes to gambling because you have to think about every step you take. It completely depends on strategy, but in some parts strategy is needed to support this luck. We also don't know when luck will come, this is already set in the gambling system. Luck is a secret, but when we gamble often, we will get closer to that luck.

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Stopping while you are winning is the most hardest thing for you to do when you are in the middle of consecutive winning on which you would really be trying out to make yourself
to cherish out that luck that you are currently experience. It is really that too damn hard for you to resist out that greed on that particular time. There's no way that you could really be able
to control it out immediate because not all people would really be that disciplined enough when it comes to this. You wont really be that making yourself that getting addicted
if you are really just that having that good control but since not all would really be that mindful and sensible then this is where they do really mess up.
Without a doubt stopping when you are ahead is very difficult to do, as at the time a gambler may begin to envision themselves making a lot of money during that session, and even if they begin to take some losses they think of those losses as nothing more but momentary setbacks they can beat.

However the losses will begin to become too big to ignore, and a gambler may change their plan and now they just want to recover the balance they have lost up to that point, but even such target is very difficult to be reached as many gamblers begin to lose control over themselves and make some reckless bets.
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Impulsive actions are not good when it comes to gambling because you have to think about every step you take. It completely depends on strategy, but in some parts strategy is needed to support this luck. We also don't know when luck will come, this is already set in the gambling system. Luck is a secret, but when we gamble often, we will get closer to that luck.
Easy to say than to do because at the heat of the moment, you're going to have a hard time knowing how to navigate them because it's your emotions going out of control and even if you're aware, it's still difficult to stop those actions, they're an impulsive one after all, maybe you've got an advantage when you're aware but I don't think that awareness stops impulsive actions all together, this kind of behavior isn't something that you can easily stop and it takes some mental training for you to be able to do it. I don't think luck is a secret though, there are times when you can really feel it and it's a distinct feeling, I don't think anyone will be able to miss it even if they haven't felt it lucky before.



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December 21, 2023, 03:42:47 AM
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Impulsive actions are not good when it comes to gambling because you have to think about every step you take. It completely depends on strategy, but in some parts strategy is needed to support this luck. We also don't know when luck will come, this is already set in the gambling system. Luck is a secret, but when we gamble often, we will get closer to that luck.

Of course, luck will be a secret. No one will know in advance or feel when we are lucky. I don't think frequent gambling will lead to that luck. I think that if we gamble regularly, the more knowledge and experience we have in gambling, our winning rate will increase.

But luck that comes to us is not necessarily a good thing. Being lucky the first time we play gambling will make us excited and addictive. And we had bet a more considerable sum, but our luck had run out. Severe defeat makes us want to win again, and the result is sadness.

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December 21, 2023, 04:06:48 AM
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Impulsive actions are not good when it comes to gambling because you have to think about every step you take. It completely depends on strategy, but in some parts strategy is needed to support this luck. We also don't know when luck will come, this is already set in the gambling system. Luck is a secret, but when we gamble often, we will get closer to that luck.
I think that if we gamble regularly, the more knowledge and experience we have in gambling, our winning rate will increase.

Purely depends on what gambling game you're playing. I don't think it would make much of difference to a pure-luck based games like dice, roulette, and anything similar. For sports betting, experience and knowledge may have a slight advantage but the odds would make things a little complicated and challenging for you to decide where to place a bet.

Well, I can't be sympathetic towards a gambler who losses everything, because first of all they have already made a choice and those are just to consequences for what they have done recklessly.

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December 21, 2023, 01:24:13 PM
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Impulsive actions are not good when it comes to gambling because you have to think about every step you take. It completely depends on strategy, but in some parts strategy is needed to support this luck. We also don't know when luck will come, this is already set in the gambling system. Luck is a secret, but when we gamble often, we will get closer to that luck.

Of course, luck will be a secret. No one will know in advance or feel when we are lucky. I don't think frequent gambling will lead to that luck. I think that if we gamble regularly, the more knowledge and experience we have in gambling, our winning rate will increase.

But luck that comes to us is not necessarily a good thing. Being lucky the first time we play gambling will make us excited and addictive. And we had bet a more considerable sum, but our luck had run out. Severe defeat makes us want to win again, and the result is sadness.

We can only hope for luck so that luck can come when we are gambling so that we can win at gambling. Maybe when we read that a gambler lost while gambling, we sympathize with him, but the gambler should know that he doesn't need to gamble too often to prevent more losses. And he doesn't need that sympathy because his defeat in gambling was due to his own mistake in using a lot of money.

We also don't need to experience the same thing as the gambler because we already know that gambling requires a lot of money and doesn't guarantee that we can win. We can only continue to hope for luck to come, and for the rest, we should just enjoy our time gambling and stay within the limits we have created. We must be able to prevent experiencing gambling addiction because that is the biggest problem that every gambler must avoid. The assumption that if we gamble often, we will be closer to luck is not entirely true because, once again, we are still determining when luck will come.

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December 22, 2023, 01:50:04 PM
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Don't do gamble emotionally because emotion is the main enemy when you gambling. Emotion force you to do over gamble when you are in loss that decision is totally wrong. Expats and maximum gambler do that when they faces losses for that time they stop doing gambling. That's the best way to not faces extra more losses. If your emotion highly work then stop gambling for this time and do relax and play again after some time in cold mind.
You are right. When one gambler will go for gambling in most cases he will face issues with the emotions. But if the gambler cannot tackle it then it is natural that he will face loss Or his losses will increase. If you gamble with emotions, you will make wrong decisions to win again and again, and in the end it will be seen that the amount of loss is much higher. So I think always should avoid emotion in these cases and go into a strategy.


Yes emotion is the main enemy of your gambling life it's not about gambling life it's also in real life. Emotion force you to take dessision in very short time and we all know short time dessision is always wrong and it make problem in life. That emotion create problem in gambling if can't control your emotion you can't be a gambler. If you can't control it the best openion is leave gambling or it will distroy your financial condition.
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December 22, 2023, 02:08:13 PM
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Think about the money-driven gambler. Every loss chips away at their carefully built castle of financial security. They see gambling as a shortcut to riches, a calculated gamble for a big payday. So when they lose, it's a slap in the face, a crack in their meticulously crafted plans.

But then you have the thrill-seekers, the ones who see gambling as a playground, a chance to test their luck and feel that electric buzz of the unknown. Sure, they might not like losing, but it's just part of the rollercoaster ride, another dip in the crazy ups and downs. For them, it's not about the money, it's about the rush, the satisfaction of the game itself, the camaraderie of the whole scene.

This difference in perspective is what makes gambling such a fascinating human experience. It's all about personal motivations, how much risk you can handle, and how you deal with both winning and losing. There's no magic formula, no one-size-fits-all approach. The key is to understand why you're playing, how much you can afford to lose, and how those wins and losses make you feel.

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December 22, 2023, 04:03:07 PM
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If I were to gamble only to entertain myself, have some fun, and enjoy my time when I have some, I would never feel bad if I lost as long as I got entertained and enjoyed the time I spent in the casino. But, if I'm gambling to earn money, and my only aim is to gain more money with my money, I will surely get frustrated or angry after I lose, and I will chase my losses as well.
The relationship between having fun/entertainment and gaining profits while gambling is to envelope ones mental reaction against lost so that it doesn't become worrisome.
The fact is that application of fun while gambling solicitates with your expectancy of making profits at where you could loose your game otherwise, a full dose of gambling for fun has a zero profits expectants and gambling without the considerations of fun but utmost to make profits would have you all consciences to strive eagerly just to win and at your lost period of time becomes a weakness.

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If I were to gamble only to entertain myself, have some fun, and enjoy my time when I have some, I would never feel bad if I lost as long as I got entertained and enjoyed the time I spent in the casino. But, if I'm gambling to earn money, and my only aim is to gain more money with my money, I will surely get frustrated or angry after I lose, and I will chase my losses as well.
The relationship between having fun/entertainment and gaining profits while gambling is to envelope ones mental reaction against lost so that it doesn't become worrisome.
The fact is that application of fun while gambling solicitates with your expectancy of making profits at where you could loose your game otherwise, a full dose of gambling for fun has a zero profits expectants and gambling without the considerations of fun but utmost to make profits would have you all consciences to strive eagerly just to win and at your lost period of time becomes a weakness.

It is not that it is lost, what happens is that we must have the maturity to accept the reality of things as they are, that is, we are people who all the time are looking for a way to make more money, and it may be that When we are trying to figure out why we lose, we cannot find reasons, anyone has a way of playing, and that way of playing is the ideal for many, in fact the acceptance of each person's style speaks for itself. Alone, when we play it is obvious that we have more ways to play, but we also have to accept a fact, that we always have to give everything to be able to get the best, in this order of ideas, is to accept the house advantage , know that the money we are betting is money that we must accept that it will be lost, or it will be lost or multiplied, but seeing how things are we have to leave or assume the worst of the chaos , so that the best of the cases is Welcomed and the worst is completely accepted and assumed without any problem.

When a person assumes or makes that the money they are willing to bet is an Amount , because if we are lost, we could become decapitalized, lose money that should not be lost and that is probably compromised, then this type of thing that we do is to basically fulfill our expectations of fun, in fact the game was invented to have fun, to enjoy, and to make us see this as that, it is like a service, where obviously if we put money we can win or lose money, that is why maturity is Needed in the person , to have a good idea of how to cope with things , well, for something in all lcasios requires that the Participants be of legal age.

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December 23, 2023, 01:33:51 PM
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If I were to gamble only to entertain myself, have some fun, and enjoy my time when I have some, I would never feel bad if I lost as long as I got entertained and enjoyed the time I spent in the casino. But, if I'm gambling to earn money, and my only aim is to gain more money with my money, I will surely get frustrated or angry after I lose, and I will chase my losses as well.
The relationship between having fun/entertainment and gaining profits while gambling is to envelope ones mental reaction against lost so that it doesn't become worrisome.
The fact is that application of fun while gambling solicitates with your expectancy of making profits at where you could loose your game otherwise, a full dose of gambling for fun has a zero profits expectants and gambling without the considerations of fun but utmost to make profits would have you all consciences to strive eagerly just to win and at your lost period of time becomes a weakness.
As long as a person does not pursue profits from gambling games and only wants to get pleasure or entertainment from gambling, he will not experience mental problems. He will know that in gambling games, there are winners and losers. If he loses, he will accept it well without any desire to recover from his loss.

But if he turns around and wants to recover from his loss, he will experience mental problems. He will not be able to accept his defeat and will try to catch up or recover from his loss. Even though he knew doing that was not as easy as he had imagined. But he will still do it because he wants to get the money he lost at the gambling table.

He wouldn't even think about whether that meant he would suffer even more losses. He just wanted to achieve his goal of gambling. Meanwhile, the purpose of gambling has changed too. He no longer wants to get pleasure from gambling but he wants to get profit from gambling.

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December 23, 2023, 03:21:15 PM
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Impulsive actions are not good when it comes to gambling because you have to think about every step you take. It completely depends on strategy, but in some parts strategy is needed to support this luck. We also don't know when luck will come, this is already set in the gambling system. Luck is a secret, but when we gamble often, we will get closer to that luck.
But luck that comes to us is not necessarily a good thing. Being lucky the first time we play gambling will make us excited and addictive. And we had bet a more considerable sum, but our luck had run out. Severe defeat makes us want to win again, and the result is sadness.

In gambling we want as much about winning but not about losing. But the rate of win and loss is 50-50. When we are too busy gambling to win, we will lose. Luck is definitely an important factor in gambling. Some people don't win in gambling even with 100% correct data analysis and some win on luck without understanding. A gambler should continue gambling depending on two things. But in the meantime, those who will gamble will win and some will lose there. So everyone should consider it only as a center of entertainment so that they don't have to be filled with sorrow.

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December 23, 2023, 04:34:01 PM
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If I were to gamble only to entertain myself, have some fun, and enjoy my time when I have some, I would never feel bad if I lost as long as I got entertained and enjoyed the time I spent in the casino. But, if I'm gambling to earn money, and my only aim is to gain more money with my money, I will surely get frustrated or angry after I lose, and I will chase my losses as well.
The relationship between having fun/entertainment and gaining profits while gambling is to envelope ones mental reaction against lost so that it doesn't become worrisome.
The fact is that application of fun while gambling solicitates with your expectancy of making profits at where you could loose your game otherwise, a full dose of gambling for fun has a zero profits expectants and gambling without the considerations of fun but utmost to make profits would have you all consciences to strive eagerly just to win and at your lost period of time becomes a weakness.
As long as a person does not pursue profits from gambling games and only wants to get pleasure or entertainment from gambling, he will not experience mental problems. He will know that in gambling games, there are winners and losers. If he loses, he will accept it well without any desire to recover from his loss.

But if he turns around and wants to recover from his loss, he will experience mental problems. He will not be able to accept his defeat and will try to catch up or recover from his loss. Even though he knew doing that was not as easy as he had imagined. But he will still do it because he wants to get the money he lost at the gambling table.

He wouldn't even think about whether that meant he would suffer even more losses. He just wanted to achieve his goal of gambling. Meanwhile, the purpose of gambling has changed too. He no longer wants to get pleasure from gambling but he wants to get profit from gambling.

I can only believe they are up to be entertained when they bet $0.10 on online roulette and dice. But then everyone wants to win. I don't see a reason to gamble just to be entertained, it has to be with profit in mind.  That's why most of these gamblers are looking for new strategies to win just like sports bettors who analyze the teams and seek the opinion of other bettors.

You get to sympathize with players when you are with them on the table though since you can see the frustration on their faces when they lose money. But in loss, they will find strategies to win.

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December 23, 2023, 07:42:14 PM
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We can only hope for luck so that luck can come when we are gambling so that we can win at gambling. Maybe when we read that a gambler lost while gambling, we sympathize with him, but the gambler should know that he doesn't need to gamble too often to prevent more losses. And he doesn't need that sympathy because his defeat in gambling was due to his own mistake in using a lot of money.

We also don't need to experience the same thing as the gambler because we already know that gambling requires a lot of money and doesn't guarantee that we can win. We can only continue to hope for luck to come, and for the rest, we should just enjoy our time gambling and stay within the limits we have created. We must be able to prevent experiencing gambling addiction because that is the biggest problem that every gambler must avoid. The assumption that if we gamble often, we will be closer to luck is not entirely true because, once again, we are still determining when luck will come.
In my opinion, having too much hope for luck is also not good because this can make gambler have an excessive attitude towards their ambition to win, at first it may not happen but as time goes by luck is really expected and the ambition to win will be present.
If something like this happens then of course disappointment will be the thing you feel the most because winning is very difficult and what always comes is defeat.
Will you feel sympathy for the defeat? Of course not because the defeat was supposed to happen and the defeat also occurred because of the gambler own fault, who was unable to control his actions and improve his mindset.
And you need to know that there will be no feelings of sympathy for gamblers who have experienced defeat, even if it is large loss.
Every gambler must care about themselves and that is one way to avoid every mistake that usually occurs.

Gambling is an activity where you can't really predict what the impact and consequences will be.
Maybe some people just experience losses and lose money and also become addicted, but there are also things that are more serious, such as crimes and also cases of suicide that have occurred several times.
All of these are bad impacts of gambling, but apart from all these bad impacts there are still positive impacts that can be taken and it all depends on how the gambler himself is in each of his gambling activities.

Luck is one of the big hopes for gambler because luck can always give win, but hoping for luck with the addition of excessive efforts such as increasing the budget and increasing gambling time is also not an attitude that should be taken.
OK, I know that all gamblers have the desire to win, but the right step is that they have to learn, they have to be able to understand and also gather more experience so they can optimize every opportunity that exists.
And if all of this is truly done or decided happily and with full control then luck or victory can be guaranteed to come by itself.
In this way, the important point is that we can avoid the negative impacts of the gambling activities we carry out.

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December 23, 2023, 11:04:35 PM
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Yup, because if you know the limit of your gambling capacity and you don't give in to your emotions, then there is a greater possibility that you will be more successful in your gambling. I mean you are more likely to win some people control their emotions in order not to be greedy and avoid chasing losses.

I agree that It is also important that you have more experience in gambling and know some skills, but if you don't have any ability to know this field then it is better to try first and test if gambling is really for you. Some people are only influenced by their friends or colleagues and there are also other people who are just imitating other gamblers knowing that they don't have much experience and in the end, they will be sad because they lose more than winning.

That's why as a concerned citizen, who knows the status of their lifestyle is also unhappy to think that the money that should be spent on their daily life is just lost through irresponsible gambling.
Giving into emotions can be dangerous, but successful is very subjective term. I would take it as being successful when we don't lose everything by playing everything we got, or even more then we budgeted. That's a win in my book. I don't necessary wait for huge profits in order to be successful. Just minimized losses. As long i am losing what i am affording to lose, i consider myself a successful gambler. That might be a low bar for someone but it keeps me straight and far from the trouble and deep end. And i consider myself greedy, not so desperately greedy i would play with a loan or anything like that. But i gamble with winnings sometimes, maybe with too greedy attitude, but that what gives me big wins sometimes. But only sometimes.

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December 23, 2023, 11:49:04 PM
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Giving into emotions can be dangerous, but successful is very subjective term. I would take it as being successful when we don't lose everything by playing everything we got, or even more then we budgeted. That's a win in my book. I don't necessary wait for huge profits in order to be successful. Just minimized losses. As long i am losing what i am affording to lose, i consider myself a successful gambler. That might be a low bar for someone but it keeps me straight and far from the trouble and deep end. And i consider myself greedy, not so desperately greedy i would play with a loan or anything like that. But i gamble with winnings sometimes, maybe with too greedy attitude, but that what gives me big wins sometimes. But only sometimes.


The gambler should control their emotions in the gambling,So he play the gambling without any expectation in the gambling.The biggest money making gamblers are the people who play the game without any expectations from the gambling site.Only the gamblers who doesn’t have any expectation will use their own strategies without any hesitation.Because the gambler had many options to take risk by playing without any expectation.The risk was the important one for the gamblers to make the money from the gambling site,greedy also should be avoided by the gamblers to make more money in the gambling sites in long run.
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December 24, 2023, 12:07:52 AM
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Giving into emotions can be dangerous, but successful is very subjective term. I would take it as being successful when we don't lose everything by playing everything we got, or even more then we budgeted. That's a win in my book. I don't necessary wait for huge profits in order to be successful. Just minimized losses. As long i am losing what i am affording to lose, i consider myself a successful gambler. That might be a low bar for someone but it keeps me straight and far from the trouble and deep end. And i consider myself greedy, not so desperately greedy i would play with a loan or anything like that. But i gamble with winnings sometimes, maybe with too greedy attitude, but that what gives me big wins sometimes. But only sometimes.


The gambler should control their emotions in the gambling,So he play the gambling without any expectation in the gambling.The biggest money making gamblers are the people who play the game without any expectations from the gambling site.Only the gamblers who doesn’t have any expectation will use their own strategies without any hesitation.Because the gambler had many options to take risk by playing without any expectation.The risk was the important one for the gamblers to make the money from the gambling site,greedy also should be avoided by the gamblers to make more money in the gambling sites in long run.

I think they will only be able to control everything, especially their emotions when they experience defeat, if they come without having a goal to produce, or what we usually call coming only to look for fun and entertainment, because if someone is more focused on winning than Concerned  about the possibility of greater risks, it will clearly be very difficult to be able to take such preventive measures, expectations and hope are one of the main problems.

I think you can't just say that "they can make money if they can control themselves or without putting expectations" you have to understand that self-control and avoiding greed is only something that is useful for minimizing risk and does not mean increasing the winning percentage  to bigger or more frequent, however, victory is always impossible to know when it will come because only luck can bring you results like that.

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December 24, 2023, 02:24:49 AM
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 I think that if we gamble regularly, the more knowledge and experience we have in gambling, our winning rate will increase.

Purely depends on what gambling game you're playing. I don't think it would make much of difference to a pure-luck based games like dice, roulette, and anything similar. For sports betting, experience and knowledge may have a slight advantage but the odds would make things a little complicated and challenging for you to decide where to place a bet.

Well, I can't be sympathetic towards a gambler who losses everything, because first of all they have already made a choice and those are just to consequences for what they have done recklessly.
If we play games based on luck, it will not increase our insight or knowledge and bring us closer to luck, but it will make us addicted to gambling and this can cause losses. So we must be able to limit ourselves from gambling too much in terms of the more we gamble the closer we will get to it luckily that would be very wrong. However, if you gamble based on skill, it can increase our insight in analyzing bets and get closer to luck and indeed this can be a challenge for us in betting because if we make the slightest mistake in analyzing bets, it can cause us to lose.

We don't need to be sympathetic to people who gamble recklessly because it is their own fault that they gamble excessively. Even they lose a lot of money and feel they should be pitied, but it still can't change their situation for the better, but it can be a lesson for us gamblers not to overdo it in gambling which causes big losses.

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December 24, 2023, 04:26:56 AM
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Giving into emotions can be dangerous, but successful is very subjective term. I would take it as being successful when we don't lose everything by playing everything we got, or even more then we budgeted. That's a win in my book. I don't necessary wait for huge profits in order to be successful. Just minimized losses. As long i am losing what i am affording to lose, i consider myself a successful gambler. That might be a low bar for someone but it keeps me straight and far from the trouble and deep end. And i consider myself greedy, not so desperately greedy i would play with a loan or anything like that. But i gamble with winnings sometimes, maybe with too greedy attitude, but that what gives me big wins sometimes. But only sometimes.


The gambler should control their emotions in the gambling,So he play the gambling without any expectation in the gambling.The biggest money making gamblers are the people who play the game without any expectations from the gambling site.Only the gamblers who doesn’t have any expectation will use their own strategies without any hesitation.Because the gambler had many options to take risk by playing without any expectation.The risk was the important one for the gamblers to make the money from the gambling site,greedy also should be avoided by the gamblers to make more money in the gambling sites in long run.

I think they will only be able to control everything, especially their emotions when they experience defeat, if they come without having a goal to produce, or what we usually call coming only to look for fun and entertainment, because if someone is more focused on winning than Concerned  about the possibility of greater risks, it will clearly be very difficult to be able to take such preventive measures, expectations and hope are one of the main problems.

I think you can't just say that "they can make money if they can control themselves or without putting expectations" you have to understand that self-control and avoiding greed is only something that is useful for minimizing risk and does not mean increasing the winning percentage  to bigger or more frequent, however, victory is always impossible to know when it will come because only luck can bring you results like that.
Betting is a lesson in probability and psychology, not just a game. I agree - self-control and avoiding greed are crucial. More than risk mitigation. The thrill of the game, the adrenaline of uncertainty, and unfamiliarity are key. Gambling for fun is a high-stakes mental gymnastics game.

Luck being the sole cause of victory? Try not to simplify. Luck is important, but not everything. Playing the player, reading the game, and comprehending the intricacies are skills. Your prediction that victory is unpredictible is correct. It's beautiful that way! Unpredictability and highs and lows make gambling exciting. We're active players in an exciting game of chance and skill, not passive survivors. Playing the game is more important than winning

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December 24, 2023, 08:34:00 AM
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In my opinion, having too much hope for luck is also not good because this can make gambler have an excessive attitude towards their ambition to win, at first it may not happen but as time goes by luck is really expected and the ambition to win will be present.
If something like this happens then of course disappointment will be the thing you feel the most because winning is very difficult and what always comes is defeat.
Will you feel sympathy for the defeat? Of course not because the defeat was supposed to happen and the defeat also occurred because of the gambler own fault, who was unable to control his actions and improve his mindset.
And you need to know that there will be no feelings of sympathy for gamblers who have experienced defeat, even if it is large loss.
Every gambler must care about themselves and that is one way to avoid every mistake that usually occurs.

Gambling is an activity where you can't really predict what the impact and consequences will be.
Maybe some people just experience losses and lose money and also become addicted, but there are also things that are more serious, such as crimes and also cases of suicide that have occurred several times.
All of these are bad impacts of gambling, but apart from all these bad impacts there are still positive impacts that can be taken and it all depends on how the gambler himself is in each of his gambling activities.

Luck is one of the big hopes for gambler because luck can always give win, but hoping for luck with the addition of excessive efforts such as increasing the budget and increasing gambling time is also not an attitude that should be taken.
OK, I know that all gamblers have the desire to win, but the right step is that they have to learn, they have to be able to understand and also gather more experience so they can optimize every opportunity that exists.
And if all of this is truly done or decided happily and with full control then luck or victory can be guaranteed to come by itself.
In this way, the important point is that we can avoid the negative impacts of the gambling activities we carry out.
Yes, you are right because hoping too much for luck will make us forget to enjoy the gambling game so that we will only chase luck as much as we chase victory. And it is true that it will make us even more ambitious to win and it can actually make them feel disappointed because they haven't been able to get the win they want. The loss we experience will probably make other people who know about it will sympathize with us but that won't change anything because if they don't like gambling, they will only advise us to stop gambling immediately and never gamble again. But those of us who experience it will probably become more curious about why we can never win at gambling and it will make us gamble more often even though we have experienced many losses before. Every gambler must be able to overcome the disappointment he experiences as a result of gambling, but never expect to continue gambling if you have experienced defeat because that will make you more emotional and want to chase the win or recover from losses.

And because we don't predict when gambling, we don't need to gamble too often or too seriously because that will only make us forget to take care of ourselves while gambling. In the end it will make us lose more and more money and can become addicted to gambling. If we have a gambling addiction, we will only prioritize gambling over other things and what's worse, we can commit suicide like other desperate gamblers out there have done. It will make things worse and not only impact us but also our families.

Gamblers must know that luck will not always accompany them in gambling and will pass on to other people who deserve luck. We can only continue to play with limits and cannot use more money because that will only result in bigger losses. And yes, we as gamblers certainly hope to win and for this reason, many gamblers still continue to gamble so that they can win one day. But many of them can't control themselves well so they lose more and more until finally they become even more desperate than before. This is what we must avoid while we gamble and with good self-control we can do this to prevent the desire to continue gambling. There are still many things we can do to prevent a lot of losses and it will be more useful for us because we can have opportunities to get something useful for our lives.

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December 24, 2023, 03:44:11 PM
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We don't need to be sympathetic to people who gamble recklessly because it is their own fault that they gamble excessively. Even they lose a lot of money and feel they should be pitied, but it still can't change their situation for the better, but it can be a lesson for us gamblers not to overdo it in gambling which causes big losses.
slightly disagree with your opinion on this matter.
we may sympathize with other people who experience bad things in their gambling, but that doesn't mean pity, but only to be sympathetic and learn from their bad experiences so that we dont do it in the future. sometimes we will not experience this experience ourselves or it will be experienced by other people, so if you feel sympathetic to other people about their defeat or bad luck, you can use that experience as a valuable lesson not to make mistakes and it is better to be sympathetic to other people's experiences than your own. your own bad things and having to be sympathetic to yourself which will make yourself feel regretful or sad.

all gambling is always closer to luck or big risk, but as long as you have good self control and proper understanding of gambling, a gambler will not experience anything bad.

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December 29, 2023, 01:29:22 AM
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Yes emotion is the main enemy of your gambling life it's not about gambling life it's also in real life. Emotion force you to take dessision in very short time and we all know short time dessision is always wrong and it make problem in life. That emotion create problem in gambling if can't control your emotion you can't be a gambler. If you can't control it the best openion is leave gambling or it will distroy your financial condition.
There is no need to take such a strong stance against our emotions when gambling, otherwise we might as well not gamble as a great deal of people do so because they want to get some fun and feel something other than their own boredom.

What we need to do is to have a very strong control over the money we use to gamble, this way regardless of the emotions you may be feeling at the time you will not take dumb decision with your money, while at the same time you are able to enjoy gambling as you should.
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January 09, 2024, 02:53:50 PM
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What we need to do is to have a very strong control over the money we use to gamble, this way regardless of the emotions you may be feeling at the time you will not take dumb decision with your money, while at the same time you are able to enjoy gambling as you should.
Heck if the gambler had control over that money they would not be gambling in the first place. Its because they are chasing a loss or following their greed that they try to make money like this and eventually lose enough to put them in the vicious cycle instead of accepting a defeat and moving on with the money.

There are people who have learnt this the hard way and those who never did, the first group have moved on to things that can actually make money and not gamble while the second group have gone down the rabbit hole.

So instead of being emotional about the loss, accept it and stop playing.

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