Ratimov sold his account

[CryptoPravda]

I talked with Ratimov from almost the first day of his appearance on the forum and with a probability of 90 percent I can say that Ratimov sold his account. I will sign in more detail if there is time, but attentive users can now study Ratimov account and confirm my thoughts.


I can be mistaken if, for example, Ratimov account was introduced by more than one person and after my statement he will again connect to writing messages. Or for example, he has a psychological disease where he lost his memory.

In recent messages talked with me as if we had never communicated before.But we had a lot of disputes and communication. Anyone for whom the native language is Russian will notice changes in the style of writing messages.These are not only my thoughts in Russian local.

Of course, this is not strong evidence, so I created a topic to attract the attention of more experienced users

Symmetrick deleted all his topics.
Symmetrick completely ignores the questions in Russian reputation and pretends that nothing is happening.

I hope there are few old Russians willing to give their perspective about Symmetrick posting style, does his posting style changed or not especially users who were active to communicate with him.

He пpoдoлжит. Этo нe Paтимoв. Bпoлнe ceбe пpoшapeнный кpиптaн, нeмнoгo aгpeccивный, нo нe Paтимoв. У тoгo былa ничeм нe cдepживaeмaя жaждa coздaния кoнтeнтa. И в цeлoм oн был чyть бoлee вeжливым. Ha aгpeccию в ocнoвнoм пepexoдил пocлe тoгo, кaк пoлyчaл чтo-тo в cвoй aдpec. Пpocтo тaк oн нe вёл ceбя кaк Дeйcик, нaпpимep.
   Этo нe xopoшo и нe плoxo, этo пpocтo кoнcтaтaция фaктa. Жизнь идёт cвoи чepeдoм.

Google translate

Won't continue. This is not Ratimov. Quite a proficient cryptan, a little aggressive, but not Ratimov. He had an unbridled thirst for creating content. And overall he was a little more polite. He mostly switched to aggression after receiving something addressed to him. He just didn’t behave like Daisik, for example.
    This is neither good nor bad, it is simply a statement of fact. Life goes on as usual.

with a probability of 90 percent I can say that Ratimov sold his account

I anticipated this since November 23rd:

I see he also changed his password and email today...
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It's interesting that after all this circus he remained in the same campaign

Now all that's left is changing the payment address for his signature campaign

So let's make a sum-up of recent events:

- this topic exposes all Ratimov / Symmetrick's shenanigans from past years
- many DT and non-DT users distrust him or stop trusting him and, eventually, he is kicked out of DT and his DT strength goes from +13 to -9
- he starts a mass purge of his old posts and topics, possibly some with plagiarism evidence, involving also in his actions the 2 Russian mods which he fools into becoming his garbage men, until theymos puts a stop to this (it was too late anyway)
- he deletes all his left feedbacks, retracts all his support for flags and wipes his Trust list
- stops posting in international sections and resumes only to Russian local board
- stops earning merits with lightning speed; stops sending merits with lightning speed (if you check his merit activity you can see that lately he sent some merits at intervals of ~one week)
- changes his name
- changes his email and password.

What do all these seem like?

Add to all these that meanwhile he also was demoted from Merit Source position and cancels a 0.0435 BTC sponsorship with a few days before he is supposed to make the payment (after benefiting one year from the reputation and popularity gained by saying that he is the sponsor of that contest).

Then, for "clearing" the account even more, I'd also apply for a name change. This did not depend only on him, but theymos was generous so we can say this step was also Checked..

I'd eliminate any negative feedbacks I left in the past, thus there would be low chances for other rants to appear to my "new" account and jeopardize a possible deal with a customer, which may not be interested om an account involved in accusations, beefs with other users etc. Checked.

I'd be mostly inactive for avoiding other conflicts or, if I needed to be a bit active I'd remain inside my local board, where less people would see what I'm doing. Checked.

I'd cancel any sponsorship, as no potential client for my account would be interested in buying the account with a debt of 0.0435 BTC. Checked.

I'd change my username and password. Checked.

Eventually, I'd also enroll in a better paying campaign, thus the account would look even more appealing for being bought. Checked.

What's there more to say? Ratimov Symmetrick checked all the above criteria, which are common sense for someone trying to obtain a very good price for his account. Let's not forget, this not an ordinary Legendary account, but fourth most merited account on the forum. (Of course, a client would never be informed that those merits were made in thousands by copy-paste and plagiarism, but that's another discussion.)

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[yahoo62278]

I talked with Ratimov from almost the first day of his appearance on the forum and with a probability of 90 percent I can say that John sold his account. I will sign in more detail if there is time, but attentive users can now study Ratimov account and confirm my thoughts.

There needs to be proof posted in order for anyone to take this seriously. No offense to you, but that's how it is on here. Word of mouth only opens the door, proof closes the case. If you have proof, feel free to post it.

[CryptoPravda]

I talked with Ratimov from almost the first day of his appearance on the forum and with a probability of 90 percent I can say that John sold his account. I will sign in more detail if there is time, but attentive users can now study Ratimov account and confirm my thoughts.

There needs to be proof posted in order for anyone to take this seriously. No offense to you, but that's how it is on here. Word of mouth only opens the door, proof closes the case. If you have proof, feel free to post it.

In recent messages talked with me as if we had never communicated before. But we had a lot of disputes and communication. Anyone for whom the native language is Russian will notice changes in the style of writing messages.These are not only my thoughts in Russian local.

Of course, this is not strong evidence, so I created a topic to attract the attention of more experienced users

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Of course, this is not strong evidence, so I created a topic to attract the attention of more experienced users.

It's not a solid evidence but I believe that if your claims are true, then in no time, it will definitely be detected and his account will be tagged by DTs.

[examplens]

In recent messages talked with me as if we had never communicated before. But we had a lot of disputes and communication. Anyone for whom the native language is Russian will notice changes in the style of writing messages.These are not only my thoughts in Russian local.

Of course, this is not strong evidence, so I created a topic to attract the attention of more experienced users

I don't know if you know about this thread Should Ratimov aka Symmetrick be in DT1? but after the development of events through him, Ratimov started to exclude himself from most forum benefits. As far as I can see, he is mostly active only in the Russian part of the forum, which seems to me to be in line with his latest decisions about contributing to this forum. Cleaning the DT list, deleting posts, deleting feedback...
It is different, but you still have to have some more significant evidence for your claim besides your feelings.

[Gladitorcomeback]

I talked with Ratimov from almost the first day of his appearance on the forum and with a probability of 90 percent I can say that Ratimov sold his account. I will sign in more detail if there is time, but attentive users can now study Ratimov account and confirm my thoughts.

First of all it will be better to mention changed (new) name also which is Symmetrick . He has also changed mail but so far if he could sign transaction from old wallets, we cannot say that hands are changed just by speculating writing style.

Of course, this is not strong evidence, so I created a topic to attract the attention of more experienced users

Symmetrick deleted all his topics.
Symmetrick completely ignores the questions in Russian reputation and pretends that nothing is happening.

There was lot of cases opened against him and lost so much recently so may be he wanted to change the old style and doesn't want to discuss on particular case. If you have any other strong evidence then it will be better to share. Experience members already talked so much in the other threads and no one yet felt that hands changed.

[ABCbits]

IF it's true, then we'll see first case of sold account with merit source status.

[JeromeTash]

In recent messages talked with me as if we had never communicated before.But we had a lot of disputes and communication. Anyone for whom the native language is Russian will notice changes in the style of writing messages.

If you are to bring up such a case, then providing evidence is also necessary instead of just speculating. For example, how your communication with him changed over time. Seeing what Symmetrick did over the past few weeks, I got convinced that his way of thinking was somewhat immature or kiddish. Maybe he "immaturely" started ignoring you and pretending he doesn't know you because his ego is still hurt after being exposed.

He has also changed mail but so far if he could sign transaction from old wallets, we cannot say that hands are changed just by speculating writing style.

What if he transferred the ownership of private keys too?  

[digaran]

And all of the things that happened was for what exactly? Because he couldn't let go of his stubborn ego. Acting on anger will never end well. Now if he starts to join bounties and or campaigns, or if he starts to call DTs and managers "sir", it would be a worthy evidence. He got played by a DT gang and ruined everything. Btw, he is no longer a source I believe.

[tranthidung]

IF it's true, then we'll see first case of sold account with merit source status.

Probably not.

Ratimov/ Symmetrick likely waived / withdrawn his merit source role in the forum. A merit source with 1000 sourced merit is a big one and I can not think of any merit source that likely removed recently than Ratimov/ Symmetrick.
Merit source observation

Indeed, it's a -1000 (there's no great mystery behind the disappearance of this MS) and a +200 (it's more a correction of an "anomaly" for this new MS).

There are clear signals for it too.
Can a merit source re-start Ratimov merit threads.

Two topics are now in Archival.
Re: Helping Potential Legendary, Hero, Senior and Full Members (May 2023 Update)
[Merit] Help newbies and those who have a little left to the next rank
I don't know the account was sold or still belongs to the real owner. OP did not give any proof for this accusation so for now, I assume it is an invalid one because of Presumption of innocence.

[Plaguedeath]

He withdrawn his merit source role and he out from high paid campaign, if he want to sell his account, the two things I mentioned above would increase his account value. For me it doesn't make sense he sell his account with the current condition when he could make more.

What if he transferred the ownership of private keys too?  

There's always any possibility, but talking about selling his wallet is too far IMO. That will affect the whole thing as sign a message is a solid proof to prove ownership or legitimacy.

[NotATether]

If this turns out to be true then I will leave a negative trust on his account and exclude him from my trust list.

[CryptoPravda]

Now I'm even more sure. It’s just that the buyer did not study Ratimov interaction with everyone at the Russian local.
Another message Ratimov in my topic.

Ecли дoбaвляeтe instant биpжи, c пoддepжкoй лaйтнингa, тo тoгдa имeeт cмыcл дoбaвить и дpyгиe, a имeннo:

To understand the features of the Russian language.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qHR6A_mQFU
 BЫ and TЫ in Russian: How to switch and where to use


 Russians differentiate the way they address people depending on their social status, age and relations between them. But how to choose the right ‘you’? Don’t worry, we’ll spell it out for you!

“Who allowed you to say YOU to me?” “Can we switch to YOU?” Phrases like this just make zero sense in English. It’s impossible to imagine someone angry saying: “How dare you say YOU to me?!” or “Don’t tell me YOU” in English.

But, in Russian, it’s absolutely commonplace. Intrigued by another difficulty of Russian? We’ll not let it be lost in translation and explain everything now.

https://www.rbth.com/education/333035-ty-vy-how-say-you-russian



And these are not my feelings, these are clear features of the Russian language. He had never addressed me like that before.

For example, my old theme, where we are discussing with him merit source.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5197178
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5197178.msg52961561#msg52961561

We talked a lot and he knew me well. Another person owns the account.

Ecли дoбaвляeтe instant биpжи, c пoддepжкoй лaйтнингa, тo тoгдa имeeт cмыcл дoбaвить и дpyгиe, a имeннo:

In this message, he communicates with me using "Bы" He never did that.

[GazetaBitcoin]

with a probability of 90 percent I can say that Ratimov sold his account

I anticipated this since November 23rd:

I see he also changed his password and email today...
~
It's interesting that after all this circus he remained in the same campaign

Now all that's left is changing the payment address for his signature campaign

So let's make a sum-up of recent events:

- this topic exposes all Ratimov / Symmetrick's shenanigans from past years
- many DT and non-DT users distrust him or stop trusting him and, eventually, he is kicked out of DT and his DT strength goes from +13 to -9
- he starts a mass purge of his old posts and topics, possibly some with plagiarism evidence, involving also in his actions the 2 Russian mods which he fools into becoming his garbage men, until theymos puts a stop to this (it was too late anyway)
- he deletes all his left feedbacks, retracts all his support for flags and wipes his Trust list
- stops posting in international sections and resumes only to Russian local board
- stops earning merits with lightning speed; stops sending merits with lightning speed (if you check his merit activity you can see that lately he sent some merits at intervals of ~one week)
- changes his name
- changes his email and password.

What do all these seem like?

Add to all these that meanwhile he also was demoted from Merit Source position and cancels a 0.0435 BTC sponsorship with a few days before he is supposed to make the payment (after benefiting one year from the reputation and popularity gained by saying that he is the sponsor of that contest).

[Shenanigan]

Evidence is required for this charge. So far I see the subjective opinion of one user from the locale board #10.0

[Fivestar4everMVP]

And all of the things that happened was for what exactly? Because he couldn't let go of his stubborn ego. Acting on anger will never end well. Now if he starts to join bounties and or campaigns, or if he starts to call DTs and managers "sir", it would be a worthy evidence. He got played by a DT gang and ruined everything. Btw, he is no longer a source I believe.

With all that have happened, I highly doubt that he is still a source, theymos is not blind afterall, he himself knows and sees all that goes on around this forum, but hardly will he respond to issues that don't in any way, concerns him, or that doesn't deserve his attention.

Ratimov is a personality I personally had great respect for, and in the mist of all this drama, one thing I've always said to myself is, "how has the mighty fallen".

I talked with Ratimov from almost the first day of his appearance on the forum and with a probability of 90 percent I can say that John sold his account. I will sign in more detail if there is time, but attentive users can now study Ratimov account and confirm my thoughts.

There needs to be proof posted in order for anyone to take this seriously. No offense to you, but that's how it is on here. Word of mouth only opens the door, proof closes the case. If you have proof, feel free to post it.

In recent messages talked with me as if we had never communicated before. But we had a lot of disputes and communication. Anyone for whom the native language is Russian will notice changes in the style of writing messages.These are not only my thoughts in Russian local.

Of course, this is not strong evidence, so I created a topic to attract the attention of more experienced users

This is pure speculation, or better still, assumption. Assumption is not an evidence because several times, people assume things wrongly.
But still good that you brought your thought up, I believe that from now on, the detectives on this forum will get down to work to find out which is true and which is false, whether Ratimov sold his account or not.

[CryptoPravda]

Ratimov is a personally I personally had great respect for

I also respected Ratimov, but this is not Ratimov. We normally communicate even after conflicts.
I apologize, I can’t answer everyone, it’s hard to write in English quickly for me.

[dkbit98]

I talked with Ratimov from almost the first day of his appearance on the forum and with a probability of 90 percent I can say that Ratimov sold his account. I will sign in more detail if there is time, but attentive users can now study Ratimov account and confirm my thoughts.

I had a feeling he is going to leave bitcointalk forum after he started to delete many of his posts, changes email address, password, and even forum user name.
Maybe he wanted to prevent being banned, and legendary accounts can be very expensive, but I suspect he probably switched to one of his other accounts and he is still active here.
I can't be sure if he sold his account, but we are going to know this for sure when this accounts writes more messages in english.
However, this is not enough proof (yet) to give anyone negative feedback for this.

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Ratimov/ Symmetrick likely waived / withdrawn his merit source role in the forum. A merit source with 1000 sourced merit is a big one and I can not think of any merit source that likely removed recently than Ratimov/ Symmetrick.
Merit source observation

Can someone explain to me how you see that he has withdrawn merit source status? The link you posted does not point to any specific user.
Deleting the merit source thread application doesn't lead directly to that, does it? Also, the fact that on average he distributed less merit than otherwise, does not necessarily exclude that he has out-of-merit sources.

He withdrawn his merit source role and he out from high paid campaign, if he want to sell his account, the two things I mentioned above would increase his account value. For me it doesn't make sense he sell his account with the current condition when he could make more.

He left the campaign but also immediately moved to another one with a probably better payment rate while making a private deal. And I believe that he got the offer because they were very satisfied with his reviews of the service.
So this can be a two-way speculation.

[LoyceV]

I wouldn't be surprised if this were true. Ratimov burned all bridges behind him, and instead of confronting problems, he just kept digging a deeper hole. Maybe it's an ego thing, I don't get it.

If this is true, it leaves only one question: why would anyone buy such a high-profile account? Maybe that's the reason he stopped posting in English too, but if the account changed owner, that can't go unnoticed.
Imagine someone else using my account: how long would it last before it's exposed? I hope it doesn't even take a day!