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Argentina weren't at their best yesterday but they still managed to put in a decent performance against a resilient Canada. Some people have already written them off, but the joke's on those people. Remember how they started in the World Cup and kept getting better as the tournament progressed? That's how it would be this time around.
Indeed that's exactly what many people were afraid for, to start the competition with a shameful defeat like what happened in Qatar World Cup when Saudi Arabia defeated them and their fans mocked their players and asked where is Messi. In this version of Copa America, Argentina were able to defeat Canada by two goals to zero which is a very good start regardless of the way they played and their readiness for this match. Canada after all isn't a top team so they should take cautions later. The Copa América is a very different competition from the World Cup and it seems to me that most people think that in the Copa América there are only Argentina and Brazil, so they are placing Argentina or Brazil as winners of this Copa América, because they are not Looking at the history of achievements in this event, I've seen people say for example that Chile has no chance of winning this Copa América, let's look at Chile in the past: Chile: Two titles; four runners-up
source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/copa-america/2024/06/19/667343e1ca4741fc738b45ff.htmlSo even though Chile had its first game without being able to score a goal and it ended in a draw and playing against another team considered weak, I'm talking about Peru, still in this competition, Chile has a chance of winning the cup. The same case applies to Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay. Now I don't understand why some people are complaining about Argentina's performance given that in the last 2 years most of Argentina's games have been characterized by favoring good defense and being able to score 1 to 2 goals, there are rare cases in which they have scored more than 2 goals in serious competitions, that's why I don't see any reason for surprise regarding this game they played against Canada On the other hand, for the other group B match, which pits Mexico against Jamaica, I think it is quite easy to predict, where Mexico really deserves to be the favorite to secure full points. Apart from that, it looks like there will be a lot of goals scored in this match. Let's see how the two Group B matches go.
Mexico is the favourite team in this group and they could eventually get the highest score. They can be the first in the list if the result of Ecuador and Venezuela continues to be 0 - 0. Their match few hours later against Jamaica should not be a big deal for them. In the other groups you can imagine the winners except Brazil where their players will have hard times against the other 3 teams. In recent years Mexico has weakened a lot, I don't see them improving. I don't know what is happening with Mexican football, they beat Jamaica in a game in which they only managed to score 1 goal and they are not at the top of the table because Venezuela won their game against Ecuador and managed to score 2 goals, thanks to the 2 goals that Venezuela managed to score that now they lead the table ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F06%2F23%2FhNNiq.png&t=665&c=e0iY5awScVSpZw) In my opinion in this group, Venezuela is the strongest and will finish at the top, in recent months Venezuela has been improving a lot, just see that Venezuela is in position 4 in the table for qualifying for the South American World Cup, this shows that They have improved a lot, while Mexico I don't see their performance improving
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June 23, 2024, 08:25:27 AM |
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In my opinion in this group, Venezuela is the strongest and will finish at the top, in recent months Venezuela has been improving a lot, just see that Venezuela is in position 4 in the table for qualifying for the South American World Cup, this shows that They have improved a lot, while Mexico I don't see their performance improving
Even though Venezuela won and was at the top of Group B for the time being but I think that does not reflect their true performance or as an illustration of where they will be moored, because if you actually see the match, what made Venezuela win was because of the red card that Ecuador received in the 22nd minute, so that Ecuador gradually lost control of the game and it give Venezuela plenty of room to score goals. If Ecuador doesn't get that red card and still plays with 11 men, I think the story would be different.
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June 23, 2024, 08:47:15 AM |
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It seems that victory tends to favor Ecuador, where the odds displayed are currently around @ 2.07 for Ecuador, while Venezuela is around 4.60, while for a draw @ 3.05. But if you want to bet, of course you need further consideration, where Venezuela could act beyond expectations by giving Ecuador a defeat.
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Peru vs Chile match is being played today and both the teams are doing a lot of attacking but neither team is able to score successfully. The game is about to end at half time but both teams are attacking a lot but neither team is able to stop the ball in the opponent's net. Although Chile have the ball most of the time so maybe if they can attack more strongly they may be able to score against Peru. As we have seen the first match of Copa America was played between Argentina and Canada and the Argentine team won. In the points table, Argentina team is at the top position with three points. We know Argentina as the strongest team in Group A. And if Chile can win against Peru in today's match, they will definitely be able to occupy a good position in the points table and collect points. But according to the style of play of today's match, today's match is also likely to be a draw between the two teams.
Chile football team gave their best to do the goal against Peru but it could not do any single goal and both teams got 1 point. I think Peru team defend very well because Chile attacked for many times but Peru goalkeeper didn't lose hope and stoped every kick and Now Peru is at the number 2 in the group stage and the Chile has 3rd position in the Copa America group stage. But We saw last match of Argentina that was incredulous and I can't forget this match. Argentina Football team is in full rhythm and they deserve this Copa America Cup and they could win this Cup and they are favorite in this World Cup . They have legends in their team and that is secret of their success and respect.
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If Ecuador doesn't get that red card and still plays with 11 men, I think the story would be different.
I agree about the difficulty to play with only 10 players while your opponent has a full squad especially if the red card happened since the beginning of the match. Meanwhile, Ecuador was leading with 1 goal until the 64th minute although playing with 10 players then they failed to maintain it and conceded two goals in ten minutes and lost the game. They would better blocked the game when they were leading but they failed. Even though Venezuela is leading Group B, but Mexico is expected to get that spot by the last round.
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June 23, 2024, 02:49:02 PM |
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If Ecuador doesn't get that red card and still plays with 11 men, I think the story would be different.
The red card obtained in the match of course changed the direction of the game of the two teams, Ecuador was actually able to perform quite well and even they were still able to give resistance to Venezuela even though they lost the number of players to Venezuela, the match was quite fierce before the red card occurred so what you said was indeed quite true, it is very clear that Ecuador can still keep up with Venezuela game in the match even though Venezuela is quite Dominating the game, I also think that if the red card had not happened, of course it is likely that Ecuador would have been able to beat Venezuela. Losing player in the match made Ecuador have to be more dominant in defense after Venezuela managed to equalize the score and look for a draw as the final result of the match, but indeed the superiority in the number of players from Venezuela was able to broke the solid defense of Ecuador so that in the end Bello goal in the 74th minute became the winning goal for Venezuela as well as getting their first 3 points in group B.
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June 23, 2024, 05:01:30 PM |
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The first half between Argentina vs Canada was very tight, there were so many threats from both teams in the first half, but it didn't produce any results. Likewise with the second half, but in the second half there were more attacks by Argentina and more dominant in possession, resulting in 1 goal for Argentina through a kick given by Julian Alvarez, and then, Lautaro Martinez managed to score a goal with a nutmeg to the Canada Goalkeeper through an assist provided by Lionel Messi. The final score is 2 - 0, Congrats to Argentina!
What a good performance from Argentina, I didn’t watch the match because I didn’t have time to watch it, before the match I knew that Argentina would win the match but I was thinking that Canada could also score a goal in the game but as the game goes on Canada is unable to score a goal in the match, I love the way Argentina is performing in this league their first game they win without any stress and that show the remaining teams that Argentina is ready for this competition, Argentina misses a lot of chances most especially from Messi but that didn’t affect the team because they win the match and secure 3 points from the match. Argentina has many talented young players like England and they know how to use those players to win games, unlike England that doesn’t have a good coach that will lead them and make the team performance look good, the remaining teams should get ready for this tournament because with this kind of performance, I see with Argentina after watching the highlights of the match Argentina is going to win the title, but let wait and see the remaining team's performance to judge if they can compete against Argentina. With Argentina as their opponent, Canada thinks it is natural that Argentina will win this match. But if you had watched the first 45 minutes of the game, you might have found it difficult to say whether Argentina could score in this match. Canada performed well in the first 45 minutes and were quite active in their defensive positions but Argentina took over the next 45 minutes. In the next 45 minutes, Argentina scored two goals in just a few minutes and these two goals sealed the victory for Argentina. Since the team against Argentina is Canada, I think most gamblers bet on Argentina in this match and most gamblers probably won this match.
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In my opinion in this group, Venezuela is the strongest and will finish at the top, in recent months Venezuela has been improving a lot, just see that Venezuela is in position 4 in the table for qualifying for the South American World Cup, this shows that They have improved a lot, while Mexico I don't see their performance improving
Even though Venezuela won and was at the top of Group B for the time being but I think that does not reflect their true performance or as an illustration of where they will be moored, because if you actually see the match, what made Venezuela win was because of the red card that Ecuador received in the 22nd minute, so that Ecuador gradually lost control of the game and it give Venezuela plenty of room to score goals. If Ecuador doesn't get that red card and still plays with 11 men, I think the story would be different. In fact, it's just round 1 but you @Slow death say Venezuela is the strongest? For me it's very inappropriate. It's true what @abhiseshakana said, if Ecuador continues to play with 11 players until full time, then it is very possible that Ecuador will win the match. Because, even though Ecuador played with 10 players from the 22nd minute, but in reality Ecuador also managed to score first in the 40th minute, while Venezuela was just able to score a goal in the second half. However, even though I admit that Ecuador is still said to be good, but I cannot assume that they will be the strongest and will finish at the top, like you said about Venezuela. LOL! Because after all, in this group it is clear, I think Venezuela, Mexico and Ecuador have a chance to compete strongly to finish in the top two, and not only about Venezuela.
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The first half between Argentina vs Canada was very tight, there were so many threats from both teams in the first half, but it didn't produce any results. Likewise with the second half, but in the second half there were more attacks by Argentina and more dominant in possession, resulting in 1 goal for Argentina through a kick given by Julian Alvarez, and then, Lautaro Martinez managed to score a goal with a nutmeg to the Canada Goalkeeper through an assist provided by Lionel Messi. The final score is 2 - 0, Congrats to Argentina!
What a good performance from Argentina, I didn’t watch the match because I didn’t have time to watch it, before the match I knew that Argentina would win the match but I was thinking that Canada could also score a goal in the game but as the game goes on Canada is unable to score a goal in the match, I love the way Argentina is performing in this league their first game they win without any stress and that show the remaining teams that Argentina is ready for this competition, Argentina misses a lot of chances most especially from Messi but that didn’t affect the team because they win the match and secure 3 points from the match. Argentina has many talented young players like England and they know how to use those players to win games, unlike England that doesn’t have a good coach that will lead them and make the team performance look good, the remaining teams should get ready for this tournament because with this kind of performance, I see with Argentina after watching the highlights of the match Argentina is going to win the title, but let wait and see the remaining team's performance to judge if they can compete against Argentina. With Argentina as their opponent, Canada thinks it is natural that Argentina will win this match. But if you had watched the first 45 minutes of the game, you might have found it difficult to say whether Argentina could score in this match. Canada performed well in the first 45 minutes and were quite active in their defensive positions but Argentina took over the next 45 minutes. In the next 45 minutes, Argentina scored two goals in just a few minutes and these two goals sealed the victory for Argentina. Since the team against Argentina is Canada, I think most gamblers bet on Argentina in this match and most gamblers probably won this match. Yes you are right. Little did we know when we were enjoying the first match of the Copa America between Argentina and Canada that a weak Canadian team was going up against a strong Argentina. In the field game we saw that the Canada team attacked Argentina's defense a lot even as they tried very hard to goal. However, their attempts, that is, the short ones taken at the goal of Argentina, missed the target and went out. Then, however, the Argentine team came back to the game better and goal in the end to win. But they proved that Canada is not a very weak team with the match against Argentina. Every player of Team Canada performed brilliantly even as they made Argentina team sweat. Tomorrow we will see two matches of the Copa America. United States vs. Bolivia and Uruguay vs. PanamaThese two matches are going to be more interesting.
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I was looking for a thread for Copa America and I am glad I found it. Unfortunately the hype around Copa America is not the same as the Euro. Is this because in Copa America have only a few big teams? Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, Chille these are only a few I have in mind.
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I was looking for a thread for Copa America and I am glad I found it. Unfortunately the hype around Copa America is not the same as the Euro. Is this because in Copa America have only a few big teams? Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, Chille these are only a few I have in mind.
Apart from the four teams you mentioned, several other big teams are playing in the Copa America. Uruguay, Costa Rica and Paraguay are not considered weak teams. However, compared to the Euro, there are very few quality teams in the Copa America. At the end of the day, Argentina and Brazil are the favorites for the Copa America title. And one of these two teams will win the Copa America title. Other parties are far behind. I watched several matches of Copa America live. Apart from Argentina, I don't think any other team's performance is as organized and strong. More powerful gameplay is required to win the title. Also the squad needs talented players. To be honest, the value of Copa America is decreasing day by day compared to the Euro.
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If Ecuador doesn't get that red card and still plays with 11 men, I think the story would be different.
The red card obtained in the match of course changed the direction of the game of the two teams, Ecuador was actually able to perform quite well and even they were still able to give resistance to Venezuela even though they lost the number of players to Venezuela, the match was quite fierce before the red card occurred so what you said was indeed quite true, it is very clear that Ecuador can still keep up with Venezuela game in the match even though Venezuela is quite Dominating the game, I also think that if the red card had not happened, of course it is likely that Ecuador would have been able to beat Venezuela. Losing player in the match made Ecuador have to be more dominant in defense after Venezuela managed to equalize the score and look for a draw as the final result of the match, but indeed the superiority in the number of players from Venezuela was able to broke the solid defense of Ecuador so that in the end Bello goal in the 74th minute became the winning goal for Venezuela as well as getting their first 3 points in group B. The result of the Ecuador game against Venezuela last night was a very surprising one to most football fans who know about the capabilities of both footballing nations. Ecuador was the first to score and was even controlling the game even after Enner Valencia was shown the red card in the 22nd minute of the game. It was towards the end of the second half that the Venezuelan players saw the need to utilize their advantage of having more number if players in the team and their quest for a good result was granted because the 10 man Ecuador couldn't keep up again. It's still not over for Ecuador who still have two to play in the group stage of the tournament they face Jamaica on Wednesday before playing against Mexico five days later in their final group stage game.
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I was looking for a thread for Copa America and I am glad I found it. Unfortunately the hype around Copa America is not the same as the Euro. Is this because in Copa America have only a few big teams? Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, Chille these are only a few I have in mind.
The biggest teams in the world, the best players, the best stadiums are in Europe... it's normal for the Euro to have much more demand than the Copa America. There is also the importance of the cup, European teams give a lot of value to this championship, while in the Americas what matters most is the World Cup.
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In my opinion in this group, Venezuela is the strongest and will finish at the top, in recent months Venezuela has been improving a lot, just see that Venezuela is in position 4 in the table for qualifying for the South American World Cup, this shows that They have improved a lot, while Mexico I don't see their performance improving
Even though Venezuela won and was at the top of Group B for the time being but I think that does not reflect their true performance or as an illustration of where they will be moored, because if you actually see the match, what made Venezuela win was because of the red card that Ecuador received in the 22nd minute, so that Ecuador gradually lost control of the game and it give Venezuela plenty of room to score goals. If Ecuador doesn't get that red card and still plays with 11 men, I think the story would be different. But even at that you still have to give them atleast some credit for actually doing well atleast for holding up the goal advantage, one thing is to score and another is to actually defend the goal till the 90th minutes, even if the opposite team has the higher and upper hand. No doubt that Venezuela are not the best team in terms of their game play performance but they have achieved what most minor teams cannot in their group and that's finishing top.
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June 23, 2024, 08:59:34 PM Last edit: June 23, 2024, 09:10:15 PM by Coyster |
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I was looking for a thread for Copa America and I am glad I found it. Unfortunately the hype around Copa America is not the same as the Euro. Is this because in Copa America have only a few big teams? Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, Chille these are only a few I have in mind.
I'd add Columbia to the list, they are a good team as well. You are correct that there is more hype around the Euros than the Copa America, apart from having better and more popular teams, another reason is European football has a better PR, and i am pretty sure more people want to watch the Euros than the Copa America. If the two tournaments were not going on simultaneously and if it is only the Copa America, then there would have been better hype around it, but as things stand, the Euros just has to swallow it.
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USA - Bolivia , game of more than 5 goals ? If Germany won their opening game in their home country with 5-1 against Scotland , I'm thinking that USA can do the same against Bolivia and actually score 4-5 goals against them.
Odds are very appealing at around @8 per 5 goals or @4 for 4 goals which is pretty amazing if you ask me.
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I was looking for a thread for Copa America and I am glad I found it. Unfortunately the hype around Copa America is not the same as the Euro. Is this because in Copa America have only a few big teams? Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, Chille these are only a few I have in mind.
I'd add Columbia to the list, they are a good team as well. You are correct that there is more hype around the Euros than the Copa America, apart from having better and more popular teams, another reason is European football has a better PR, and i am pretty sure more people want to watch the Euros than the Copa America. If the two tournaments were not going on simultaneously and if it is only the Copa America, then there would have been better hype around it, but as things stand, the Euros just has to swallow it. I don't think it a hype, The Europa Cup competition has more notable teams playing in the competition than we do have in the Copa America Cup competition, so no doubt that's why it's hiding the Copa America which is on going right now and we all know that if we start making mention of teams involved in that competition, it quite clear that we have better playing in the Europa Cup competition.
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June 23, 2024, 10:02:39 PM |
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USA vs Bolivia
USA — Turner; Scally, Richards, Ream, Robinson; Adams, Reyna, McKennie; Weah, Balogun, Pulisic(C).
Bolivia — Viscara; Sagredo, Medina, Haquin(C), Sagredo; Fernández, Saucedo, Villamil, Justiniano, Menacho; Miranda
Here we go for group first match, USA are likely to succeed in the game because the are have a good record over Bolivia, at second minute of the match time USA have just score their first goal of the tournament so let's see what will happen at the end of the month.
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USA vs Bolivia
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FY8LhwWg%2Fscrnli-6-24-2024-5-35-20-AM.png&t=665&c=ZoHWVCmbhSp1sA) Team USA dominated and won the last two matches against Bolivia. So naturally the USA team was considered as the favorite in this match as well. The USA team is also a relatively strong team. USA also drew 1-1 in their last friendly match against strong opponents like Brazil. USA players dominated from the start of today's match. They did a lot of attacks. On the other hand, Bolivia's players played defensively. Since Bolivia's squad is not strong enough, Bolivia wanted to share the points by playing a defensive strategy. But at the moment the USA team is leading 2-0. In the first half, the USA team got a 2-0 lead with the goals of Pulisic and Balogun. Team USA cruises to an easy win.
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