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December 16, 2023, 08:00:21 PM
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Haven't you heard of self-exclusion in gambling?

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What is self-exclusion?
Self-exclusion means asking one or multiple gambling companies to prevent you from gambling with them for a set length of time, usually between 6 months and 5 years. This means you will not be able to gamble within their venue, or via their website or app. Gambling companies must offer you the option to self-exclude by law.

https://www.begambleaware.org/self-exclusion

So yes, you can do go to the gaming commission and ask yourself to be ban. I know a guy that has been banned, but he didn't do it himself, his wife did. The wife call the casinos and describe his husband and obviously his identification.

And then he told me that he was surprised when he go to a casino and that he was stop and was banned from entering. Later he found out that his wife is the one responsible because that time he was really addicted to that point that he is playing money that did not belong to him (he was a government employee that time).
If I were to be addicted in gambling someday in the future I'll do anything possible to kick my ass off that addiction wheel. I mean anything legitimately possible!

Many persons suffering from gambling addiction if you go closer you will comprehend that they do really don't like their attitude they live with and are fighting to resist it but are unable to totally delink themselves from the addiction, that even when they take the decision to stop they later find themself going back to it.

Desperate times demands desperate actions/decisions, for that gambler it was his wife, from the one I heard of it was his family members that went about all betshops in their community with his photo asking them never to let him gamble in their betshops. I even created a topic about that here in the forum thy raised alot of discussion.

If there's any way we can assist anyone around up that's struggling with gambling addiction from stopping it we shouldn't hesitate, they might not like it in the beginning but with time when they get their reasoning back on track they will forever appreciate you did whatever you did for them.

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December 16, 2023, 08:41:01 PM
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I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?
You wont really be doing such act if you werent that serious on quitting gambling addiction. Those moves or decisions that he had made might really be that too extreme but for the sake on quitting gambling
then he could actually say that it is really that effective. Why? you wont really be able to play up again and imagine that 10 years since your last play on which it do really proves out that he had been able to quit
up gambling for good. Those steps might be that extreme or really  that off the charts on which we cant really expect for some individual to reach out that kind of steps for him to avoid or completely
quit up gambling. If those things were possible and applicable then it wont really be that bad for those gambling addicts out there to do the same thing.

Just like i have said earlier that it might that too far extent for such action to be made but we do know that someone do able to successfuly quit up gambling with these kind of steps.
It isnt really something to be bad though. It is really just that unusual way or method on quitting gambling on which doing such actions arent something that you could
be able to encounter on day to day basis.

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December 17, 2023, 07:36:59 PM
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I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?
You wont really be doing such act if you werent that serious on quitting gambling addiction. Those moves or decisions that he had made might really be that too extreme but for the sake on quitting gambling
then he could actually say that it is really that effective. Why? you wont really be able to play up again and imagine that 10 years since your last play on which it do really proves out that he had been able to quit
up gambling for good. Those steps might be that extreme or really  that off the charts on which we cant really expect for some individual to reach out that kind of steps for him to avoid or completely
quit up gambling. If those things were possible and applicable then it wont really be that bad for those gambling addicts out there to do the same thing.

Just like i have said earlier that it might that too far extent for such action to be made but we do know that someone do able to successfuly quit up gambling with these kind of steps.
It isnt really something to be bad though. It is really just that unusual way or method on quitting gambling on which doing such actions arent something that you could
be able to encounter on day to day basis.

What I can think is that when a person does something like that, it is because he really went through something similar or that he was really very addicted and his experience must have been very strong, and for that reason he doesn't want it. things become reptiful or he falls into temptation again, perhaps his experience was so extreme, and even somewhat challenging in how traumatic that he preferred to do it that way, that is why when we are in a casino we must consider everything necessary to not fall again into the traps that harm us, and this means that if we try to see if someone has already been a follower, why should they be again? If he already curom, it is a way of protecting himself like this, it is something that he used for his own protection and it is something that should rather be admired, perhaps he is a hero of himself, more conscientious than sometimes the But since they are addicts they can end up committing suicide, in this order of ideas we can always make a difference.

For this reason we must always do our best to do things for our own good, even though winning an amount is enough to start with a bad streak and lose our temper, this is something that can happen, of course we must always maintain the autoncotnorl, but if there is some vulnerability in ourselves, then that attitude he did is not bad, and although it was an extreme measure, it was necessary and what he considered, not bad at all, I like people who are like that Protect yourself, this is worth doing and loving yourself much more.

Now every person who is afraid and cannot control it is always good that they can exercise some solutions so that they do not fall into addiction, sometimes it is good to prohibit themselves so that things like this do not happen, in this order of ideas we go to make a difference, everything that helps prevent addiction is welcome.


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December 17, 2023, 07:48:02 PM
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I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

Self exclusion worked exactly as it was intended, even though the way it's implemented in that country does seem unusual. Sometimes when people get deep into the rut of an addiction, this sort of shock treatment can be exactly what is necessary for them to change their ways. Often addiction is just a habit that has been formed, so if there are extra obstacles in the way then it can make it more hassle than it's worth. It would actually be nice to see such implementations apply world wide, but the gambling industry is so big that there will always be a jurisdiction that would benefit if they did not apply it. It actually shows a much more responsible country when such offerings are in place.

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December 17, 2023, 09:53:57 PM
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What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right?

I think this is a great move.  He knows he is getting addicted so he do things accordingly to kill his motivation to gamble.  The guy is brilliant, he has to kill the reason for him to gamble so he purposely limit his winnings since the reason why he is into gambling is due to his first experience of winning huge money anyway. So if he knows that he is limited to win a small amount, his urge to gamble due to huge winnings possibility is nullified thus it is easier for him to reason out for himself that there is no point in gambling anyway.

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Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

I think I won't do the trouble of going to the gaming institution to limit my winnings since I believe I still can manage to control my gambling activities.
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December 17, 2023, 11:17:55 PM
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A tool that does something like this is worthy of Admiration , it is very nice that they have Brought him here and show what some people in the World are Capable of doing , because this Draws attention because it is a person who is also Valued and those who do anything to be able to establish a better path, of course this will always have a lot to do with the things you have to wear so that someone sees it in a Constructive way, because someone who does not know much about the addiction problem will say that that Person is Kind of Stupid for doing that , if I had so much money , why Leave it there? On the contrary, he is not a Person who loves Himself.

In another Aspect , people who do something similar so that they do not fall into Diction are worthy of applause because not everything involves this desire for self-improvement and not Falling into this shame again, they are a person who should feel Good about themselves , in addition to Everything they Won , it's not bad at all.


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December 18, 2023, 12:40:53 AM
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This guy knows himself well and he took the right action to prevent more damage to himself and his family and friends because he lost that huge amount of money quickly, he would be running to his friends to borrow some more in order to recover what he has just lost. Now that he already passed those trials and managed to survive for a decade not to get close there, he should not be thinking of coming back because he won't be safe and secure unless he had the same mindset 10 years ago.

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December 18, 2023, 10:11:04 AM
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I wish that this is possible over here, because I have talk to few addicted gamblers before just to know how they feel when gambling and I get some point about how they have tried so many times to quit gambling, but they always lose the hope the next day and they found themselves going back.

I believe the person OP is talking about have good self monitoring, he knew that he is on a path of lust for gambling and he knew what could happen if something goes wrong, that's why he decide to take this step for himself.

Many people have this same feeling but they can't embark of such journey to restrict themselves from gambling, as this banning on yourself is not available in all countries.
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December 18, 2023, 10:25:54 AM
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Self-banning yourself in a country which has regulated gambling is possible given that every casino needs to to KYC in order to operate legally. Stopping yourself while you are still at the green is actually a pretty good way to stay ahead of your luck before the house edge catches up to you. So the story in the OP sounds realistic and actually something more people should be considering.

With crypto casinos self-exclusion is also possible but you would have to contact each one individually.

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~ What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

Apparently, he's done a good thing with banning himself from gambling. And now he's free from his addiction. Maybe someone explained him that poker machine(or as it's called Video Poker on online gambling sites) is not something where you can win because of your skill, it's a totally luck-based game like slots and dice and many others. Fool or hero, you ask? This guy is a hero, in my opinion. We need more heroes like him.

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December 18, 2023, 10:57:06 AM
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This guy knows himself well and he took the right action to prevent more damage to himself and his family and friends because he lost that huge amount of money quickly, he would be running to his friends to borrow some more in order to recover what he has just lost. Now that he already passed those trials and managed to survive for a decade not to get close there, he should not be thinking of coming back because he won't be safe and secure unless he had the same mindset 10 years ago.
Banning himself is somewhat unusual because what we usually hear is either the casino bans a gambler or another person but in the case of OP shared, I can't really believe it. A hero to himself (or not), if we want not to fall into addiction then have to stop gambling in the first place. Because banning himself couldn't stop him from gambling, there was online gambling which for sure was not included in his exclusion, so he still had the chance to continue his addiction. But if he tends to stop gambling, he could find it as an excuse and force himself to totally forget gambling.
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December 18, 2023, 02:51:19 PM
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I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?
You wont really be doing such act if you werent that serious on quitting gambling addiction. Those moves or decisions that he had made might really be that too extreme but for the sake on quitting gambling
then he could actually say that it is really that effective. Why? you wont really be able to play up again and imagine that 10 years since your last play on which it do really proves out that he had been able to quit
up gambling for good. Those steps might be that extreme or really  that off the charts on which we cant really expect for some individual to reach out that kind of steps for him to avoid or completely
quit up gambling. If those things were possible and applicable then it wont really be that bad for those gambling addicts out there to do the same thing.

Just like i have said earlier that it might that too far extent for such action to be made but we do know that someone do able to successfuly quit up gambling with these kind of steps.
It isnt really something to be bad though. It is really just that unusual way or method on quitting gambling on which doing such actions arent something that you could
be able to encounter on day to day basis.

What I can think is that when a person does something like that, it is because he really went through something similar or that he was really very addicted and his experience must have been very strong, and for that reason he doesn't want it. things become reptiful or he falls into temptation again, perhaps his experience was so extreme, and even somewhat challenging in how traumatic that he preferred to do it that way, that is why when we are in a casino we must consider everything necessary to not fall again into the traps that harm us, and this means that if we try to see if someone has already been a follower, why should they be again? If he already curom, it is a way of protecting himself like this, it is something that he used for his own protection and it is something that should rather be admired, perhaps he is a hero of himself, more conscientious than sometimes the But since they are addicts they can end up committing suicide, in this order of ideas we can always make a difference.

For this reason we must always do our best to do things for our own good, even though winning an amount is enough to start with a bad streak and lose our temper, this is something that can happen, of course we must always maintain the autoncotnorl, but if there is some vulnerability in ourselves, then that attitude he did is not bad, and although it was an extreme measure, it was necessary and what he considered, not bad at all, I like people who are like that Protect yourself, this is worth doing and loving yourself much more.

Now every person who is afraid and cannot control it is always good that they can exercise some solutions so that they do not fall into addiction, sometimes it is good to prohibit themselves so that things like this do not happen, in this order of ideas we go to make a difference, everything that helps prevent addiction is welcome.


We're adults with decision-making power. People can avoid casinos following addiction if they want. They've weathered the storm and know what to do. Who are we to judge or minimize their experience? This is an intentional choice to safeguard their mental and emotional health, not only avoid relapse. Their life, their rules. Story over.

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December 18, 2023, 04:13:52 PM
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he did the best for himself, how hard it was for him to let go of his gambling addiction, I was very enthusiastic about his actions because only a few people were truly aware that they were addicted to gambling, this should be an example for friends who have exceeded the limit of spending money on gambling

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I think that he's more of a hero than a fool. He knew his limitations, knew if he was allowed in he'd continue to gamble, he was also aware of the fact that such wins don't happen often and his chances of doing it again are slim, so why not stop completely and do something else instead?
I wouldn't do it because it would feel like disabling yourself. What if he changes his mind one day and wants to try his luck or goes to a casino with friends and scores a win. He won't get the money, so self exclusion is only for really hardened gamblers who can't see any other way.
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I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

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December 18, 2023, 05:17:09 PM
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He is a fool (as are we all sometimes for sure) who is a hero to some no doubt.  If you cannot be a good example be the warning to others, any method that works for him is a good one.   Problem is it wont work for everyone, my first gambling was just as kids between lessons we played various games dealt with cards and plain cash.   I dont know how you lose the habit by banning yourself from just some avenues of gambling.
  What he can be commended for is throttling the amount he spent which is basically what I advise anyone to do, the game remains the same at any bet size but avoid excessive risk and you will last longer.   Life is a marathon not a sprint imo Smiley

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December 18, 2023, 09:21:24 PM
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I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

What he did was okay, he already knew where his gambling addiction was going, so while he was still thinking, he acted immediately to help himself immediately, and what became his sign was that he spent the rest of his rent. That was a good idea, what he did was good. He knows he can't win the poker machine no matter how much skill he has. He is a hero.

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December 18, 2023, 09:33:55 PM
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I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

What he did was okay, he already knew where his gambling addiction was going, so while he was still thinking, he acted immediately to help himself immediately, and what became his sign was that he spent the rest of his rent. That was a good idea, what he did was good. He knows he can't win the poker machine no matter how much skill he has. He is a hero.
As long he did able to quit up no matter what the methods are, neither usual or unusual solution then it would be considered to be good since the main aim on making those actions is to quit up gambling for good
or would really be able to get rid of it. It is really just that people would really be normally be making out those kind of  comments just because this is really that something unusual if we do speak about the method on trying to get rid of gambling addiction. This one really shows that he's really that too serious on quitting on which trying to make him exclude out on everything or every places on which he would go.

Limiting wins, flagging himself or even doesnt pay him would really be the options that had been mentioned out on which it is really that too far extent for someone whose really that tending to quit.
Yes, it is that much but not something to be illegal. If this is the way he would really wanted then let him be. As long you would be able to solve out and get rid of addiction
then this what surely counts.

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December 18, 2023, 10:28:50 PM
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I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?
OP the guy your mention here basically addicted himself to gambling. He was in the situation you mentioned here where he had spent all his rent money and there was a time he would have sold the house and gone into gambling if he had not stopped gambling. Here this man sacrificed himself to save himself. I think he did a good job of that. If it were me I wouldn't do such a thing because I always take gambling as a pastime and never turn it into an addiction. But if I ever become addicted I will look for other ways to stop gambling. Especially  gambling is completely illegal in my country, there is no way to cancel gambling registration from my country. So if I become addicted to gambling, I must follow other good means.

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December 18, 2023, 10:42:40 PM
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I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

What he did was okay, he already knew where his gambling addiction was going, so while he was still thinking, he acted immediately to help himself immediately, and what became his sign was that he spent the rest of his rent. That was a good idea, what he did was good. He knows he can't win the poker machine no matter how much skill he has. He is a hero.
What he did was only possible because he still had some control over his actions and he was committed to leave their gambling addiction behind, however this is not very easy to do, as even if you can get yourself banned from the casinos around you in this way, there are thousands of online casinos these days all competing among each other to try to get you to gamble with them, and it will be impossible to self-exclude yourself from all of those casinos in this way even if you wanted to.
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