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December 16, 2023, 09:05:50 PM |
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.
What is your take on this?
Actually I do gambling mostly on those reputable casinos who are already established. So that I don't have face any problem with KYC requirement or the KYC policy. Yes it is true that many of US avoid KYC verification for the privacy. But it is also true that you will not find a well reputable casino who don't require kyc at it all. Because for becoming a reputable casino you have to gain trust of your user and peoples and trust can also gain by the licence and those licence always required for KYC policy for anti money laundering law. So I always avoid those new casinos all looks like a little bit suspicious to me.
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December 16, 2023, 09:29:01 PM |
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Reading the terms and conditions of a casino is tiring, but it's crucial to have them in mind before depositing money on the website. Gamblers who complain about not being attended to or losing out on their accounts didn't run research on the casino's terms of service before playing games in the casino. No matter how lengthy it may seem, having a glance at the most important sections of the TOS like the reason why a player can get banned and denied his winnings wouldn't cost us time. These two regular problems always appear on different gambling review sites and most times the gambler is blamed for not complying with the terms and conditions of the casino. Because he didn't read the lengthy write-ups he get banned and restricted from accessing money. Yes, I do read through the TOS of any online casino I'd want to deposit money and stake games. Even went the extra mile to discuss with the customer service of the casino to understand better about a few terms
that I was not able to grasp the meaning. For any avid reader, the length of a TOS isn't up to the amount of pages in a book. Reading them helps in knowing the different game providers and their restricted countries. The gambler would be aware of the status of his country in the casino's game provider and also differentiate the games to play if the provider isn't compatible with his country. Hence, going through the Terms and Conditions of a casino is crucial and saves the gambler from long-lasting harsh experiences. The only funny aspect of the punishment is that most casinos wait until the player wins his game before they penalize him. Therefore the casino also earns money from the gambler after terminating his account. In a nutshell, since it has to do with money, and we accepted that we've read the Terms and Conditions before joining the casino, the gambler should endeavor and read it. So that when issues like going to court arise the gambler wouldn't be at fault and sanctioned for his carelessness.
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December 16, 2023, 09:55:27 PM |
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If casinos will make their terms and conditions more shorter and readable, a lot more gamblers will take the time to read through what the casino says. The problem with term and conditions is that asides the fact that they can be long and boring, the font used for the writing of theses terms is not always attractive to read, hence many gamblers do not waste time there, but will quickly accept the terms and conditions even without reading.
Some other gamblers also assume that the terms and conditions of all casinos are the same, so because they have read the T and C for this casino, they do not read the conditions by the other casino.
It is a deliberate act by these casinos and every other company in terms of the pattern the terms and conditions are made and designed. By normal standard we all know that almost every human don't find interest reading a long writing of similar and repeated notes in different ways so these casinos take advantage of that human state to make the terms and conditions of their services seem boring and long for users to read to the end. But it will be helpful if we dedicate time in reading them to the end. It's completely untrue to think that two different casinos can have same ToS of service there's always many nuance in them actually.
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December 16, 2023, 09:59:29 PM |
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If casinos will make their terms and conditions more shorter and readable, a lot more gamblers will take the time to read through what the casino says. The problem with term and conditions is that asides the fact that they can be long and boring, the font used for the writing of theses terms is not always attractive to read, hence many gamblers do not waste time there, but will quickly accept the terms and conditions even without reading.
Some other gamblers also assume that the terms and conditions of all casinos are the same, so because they have read the T and C for this casino, they do not read the conditions by the other casino.
It is a deliberate act by these casinos and every other company in terms of the pattern the terms and conditions are made and designed. By normal standard we all know that almost every human don't find interest reading a long writing of similar and repeated notes in different ways so these casinos take advantage of that human state to make the terms and conditions of their services seem boring and long for users to read to the end. But it will be helpful if we dedicate time in reading them to the end. It's completely untrue to think that two different casinos can have same ToS of service there's always many nuance in them actually. On the time that i do make out those registering times then i do assume that most of terms and conditions are just identical and this is why i dont bother myself on reading those things. If i do have the time and in good emotion or feeling then i might be considering on reading up some keypoints or something which is important to read up with those terms.We do know that this is really that informations that we do need to read upon but cant really blame out on why people do skip these things? Reading up on a whole bunch of text would really be time consuming and really needing up that effort on doing so on which this is something that we dont really like honestly speaking.
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December 16, 2023, 11:33:43 PM |
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Let's be honest; I'm sure almost everyone here didn't read the terms and conditions. As the OP said, they are quite lengthy and take time to read, so it's quite common that most only skip them and just check the check box. But the thing is, they're crucial because they contain the terms and conditions of the casino, and sometimes they have hidden terms or conditions that's hard to read if you didn't read the terms and conditions carefully. So I think it takes time and dedication to read this statement, and if you are a very meticulous person, then you can read this kind of condition without a problem. I myself admit that I mostly don't read these terms and conditions because I'm a lazy person, but I still searched and did assessments on the website I chose to play with to know if they had any suspicions, conditions, or rules that could affect my funds.
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December 17, 2023, 01:58:18 AM |
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My opinion on this is that only casinos in countries where gambling and crypto currency are legal can definitely use kyc. Since gambling is illegal in many countries so cannot run a casino influenced by kyc even if you want to. Moreover it behaves quite annoyingly. You have to understand that no one keeps money on the casino site. Gambling on the other hand does not require much analysis and kyc is not at all good for an addicted gambler and it is wise to gamble with privacy.
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December 17, 2023, 08:33:28 AM |
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.
What is your take on this?
Honestly, sometimes I only read the important things that I want to know. But I make sure that the casino where I am going to play is a trustworthy and recommended of most gamblers here. Because even you didn't read their rules one by one, you'll already gain idea due to the experience of gamblers who played there. Anyway, of course it is advisable to read the ToS before using the platform. This is crucial and necessary to become aware of the rules. Especially the KYC section wherein many gamblers are still not comfortable submitting their personal information.
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December 17, 2023, 10:20:32 AM |
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Reading the rules of each casino where we gamble is a must, even if we only read some of the rules. Maybe we need to look for basic regulations such as withdrawals, deposits, KYC, and anything else we want so that we know the rules that are allowed and not allowed by the casino. This is to prevent us from making mistakes that could give us difficulties. As customers or gamblers at the casino, we must know the rules before registering or creating an account. If we don't match the rules, we can look for another casino that we want.
They say that a few is better than nothing at all. So yeah. And besides, the later parts of the TOS are I think not important anymore. I mean they are too complicated, that it looks like it wasn't really meant for us normal users. Am I right, guys? What we only need to know is like you said (the basics), because this is the main function of the casino. But even these, I admit that I disregard them before. I'm still lucky though that I didn't get into any serious troubles. But right now, I'm more careful, especially that KYC is already a thing. It makes sense on why rules are placed below the login and sign-up button. This is for us to read and decide if we agree on it or not. This forum, specifically the gambling section is also a good help to know the casino's rules, because they can insert it there in their announcement threads.
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December 17, 2023, 12:07:44 PM |
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I don't find it easy to do but its just once or twice, you won't be doing the same every time you log into your account, I am using up to four online casinos but I stay with two now because they are my favourite, I have read their terms and conditions many months ago, just in case, to avoid doing something that I won't know its against their rules.
If you don't want to end up with problems you need to read through their terms and conditions, I know it can be hard but its about the sake of your experience when gambling on the platform, you don't want to do something that will make them block your access to the casino until you pass KYC or do other things they require.
Some don't even read at all until they are asked to pass KYC and they will scream scam on the casino when its already available on their terms and conditions that KYC is mandatory, to avoid problems you just have to do it.
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December 17, 2023, 12:15:21 PM |
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My opinion on this is that only casinos in countries where gambling and crypto currency are legal can definitely use kyc. Since gambling is illegal in many countries so cannot run a casino influenced by kyc even if you want to. Moreover it behaves quite annoyingly. You have to understand that no one keeps money on the casino site. Gambling on the other hand does not require much analysis and kyc is not at all good for an addicted gambler and it is wise to gamble with privacy.
Nope, it's really varies. UK, Canada and US have a strict rules about gambling, but they allow gambling only in regulated casinos in their own countries. So it's not that gambling is illegal on there, they just have their own rules. While some countries declare gambling is illegal, but if the casino allow that country to gamble, there's will be no problem.
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December 17, 2023, 12:29:32 PM |
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True, the terms and conditions provided by casinos especially those based online are usually very long, kind of like a boring newspaper, and I think one of the things that makes people lazy to read all the terms and conditions is because basically and in general usually people don't want to be regulated and they always want something instant, I don't think they don't find or have time to read it but there is no other reason than it all looks boring, they come to get involved right away and not to read some theory that they don't think is too important.
Of course, the purpose of casinos creating KYC requirements is none other than because as you mentioned, casinos want to be sure of what exactly the purpose of the gamblers who come, if they are just to gamble then no problem but on the other hand it is always unpredictable that there must also be those who intend to make casinos a place to launder money, but on the other hand not many gamblers want to do it on the basis of privacy which is their main reason, even though it is all also for the safety and comfort of gamblers during their involvement.
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December 17, 2023, 12:31:39 PM |
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No one likes reading through terms and conditions but we don't have a choice, its tiring to even look at the whole words on screen and start reading, but how will you know if they support your location? How will you know if KYC is compulsory? How will you know if they don't like you using VPN and proxies? I want to know.
Isn't this the reason why some people get bad experience gambling on a casino and they are ask to pass KYC by force? When you broke rules at times you may not even know what you did wrong, that's why you have to know what your casino likes and what they don't like or else you will have to pay for not reading the terms and conditions from the start.
I will say that this is a good way to avoid making stupid mistakes, before you make your first deposit on any online casino its better to read their terms and conditions first.
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December 17, 2023, 12:56:27 PM |
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Do you take time to read the terms and conditions of casinos before registering? The simple answer is no back then when I was a kid I actually read some of the Terms and Conditions of software but those are long paragraphs and talk about legal and some of law that I really don't understand and from that I'm rarely read the ToS again till this date just register checked and boom ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) But you guys should really read it hahaha
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December 17, 2023, 01:07:51 PM |
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If you managed to read the terms and conditions until the end, then you're definitely not an average person. Who wants to read that lengthy and boring text when all you want is to sign up for entertainment like an online casino? You only become concerned about the terms and conditions if you encounter an issue after agreeing to them. While these conditions may include many of the complaints that users have, it's understandable that people don't often take the time to read them.
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December 17, 2023, 01:12:25 PM |
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more or less, I try to read some "major parts" of each TOS, likewise: terms for deposits/withdrawal/restricted locations/how to handle issues... But, if I need to use more "often" a casinos it become a must understand what are issues on such cases...likewise market suspended, match voided and so on. TOS are boring, and most of the time are also hard to be understood due language barrier and many many pages of text...but these must be known and used in a proper way...
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December 17, 2023, 01:28:30 PM |
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If you managed to read the terms and conditions until the end, then you're definitely not an average person. Who wants to read that lengthy and boring text when all you want is to sign up for entertainment like an online casino? You only become concerned about the terms and conditions if you encounter an issue after agreeing to them. While these conditions may include many of the complaints that users have, it's understandable that people don't often take the time to read them.
Terms are not what gamblers pay attention to, more precisely, casinos also need players to stay out of trouble and the process to be extremely simple, register to deposit, withdraw and transfer money in just a few minutes is the introduction and guidance I received, although sometimes there are some more complicated cases, the casino team still shows their sophistication and agility. In general, terms and conditions are not equal to actual experience, reading a lot will not help us win, determined to have fun, we should avoid wasting time with such platitudes.
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December 17, 2023, 01:57:57 PM |
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Do you take time to read the terms and conditions of casinos before registering? The simple answer is no back then when I was a kid I actually read some of the Terms and Conditions of software but those are long paragraphs and talk about legal and some of law that I really don't understand and from that I'm rarely read the ToS again till this date just register checked and boom ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) But you guys should really read it hahaha The point is to capture several important points in the terms and conditions, in which you actually don't need to read them completely and I'm sure it won't take a lot of time to read them. Of course, there are articles that you don't understand about the law. You can skip them and then look for the important points that you should Remember not to break site rules in the future just because you didn't read them. For me, the little gambler probably doesn't read too much there, usually the rules are not much different from other sites, especially since we all often share discussions about what is prohibited and what is allowed when gambling on this forum based on the terms and conditions as long as it only discusses the important part. is more than enough. But just in case, it's important for anyone to read it if they have free time ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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December 17, 2023, 01:58:57 PM |
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What is your take on this?
As far as I know, online casinos have the right to have a number of rules that have been made, all of which are to deal with suspicious activities carried out by gambling players, It's all regardless of whether the user reads or follows the existing rules, but I'm sure it's all for the good in the future against any harm. However, quite a few of us don't read the existing conditions, while they can pass the registration, they do so, but they don't pay attention to the effects that will occur in the future when large KYC withdrawals are not passed, because they didn't do it from the start, the money was frozen and a conflict occurred between the casino and the players. For this reason, follow the terms and conditions at the casino, to make everything easier between us and the casino.
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December 17, 2023, 04:38:06 PM |
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For sure most of us are too lazy to do so. Outcome, there are people who are suprised with sudden changes of rules and to be more specific, implication of KYC procedures. If you are concerned of something, then it would make sense putting more time into it and that includes reading stuff necessary and relevant to where would you be putting your money in. If you managed to read the terms and conditions until the end, then you're definitely not an average person. Who wants to read that lengthy and boring text when all you want is to sign up for entertainment like an online casino? You only become concerned about the terms and conditions if you encounter an issue after agreeing to them. While these conditions may include many of the complaints that users have, it's understandable that people don't often take the time to read them.
Terms are not what gamblers pay attention to, more precisely, casinos also need players to stay out of trouble and the process to be extremely simple, register to deposit, withdraw and transfer money in just a few minutes is the introduction and guidance I received, although sometimes there are some more complicated cases, the casino team still shows their sophistication and agility. In general, terms and conditions are not equal to actual experience, reading a lot will not help us win, determined to have fun, we should avoid wasting time with such platitudes. Terms and condition are far from your tendencies of winning your bets. It speaks to your overall experience and services to avail during your stay on their platform. It is not a waste of time unless you don't care about possible changes perhaps with wagering requirements, deposit and withdraw amounts, maintainances and more.
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December 17, 2023, 04:42:23 PM |
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Yes I do take time to read the terms and conditions of a casino before registering. Those terms and conditions are there for the customers to read and accept them before they can proceed to register. If the terms and conditions are not okay with me I will not register.
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