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December 17, 2023, 05:12:55 PM
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Even myself dont really have that sufficient or preferred time on reading up on everything on which i would really be that skipping it out all  the time.
I also don't read terms and conditions when signing up at an online casino. I prefer to read summarized reviews about the respective casino on the internet, because the people who wrote the reviews already read and highlighted the most important points of the terms for the audience, so they don't have to spend their time on it.

This way everyone gains, it's a win-win situation: reviewers are paid through traffic and views for the long length of time they took to read those terms in order to write the articles and gamblers don't have to be fearful of depositing at a casino because they haven't read a dozen of pages at the casino website. Moreover, online casinos in general also win, because many of them are being promoted on the reviews' websites.

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December 17, 2023, 05:15:37 PM
 #102

Even myself dont really have that sufficient or preferred time on reading up on everything on which i would really be that skipping it out all  the time.
I also don't read terms and conditions when signing up at an online casino. I prefer to read summarized reviews about the respective casino on the internet, because the people who wrote the reviews already read and highlighted the most important points of the terms for the audience, so they don't have to spend their time on it.

This way everyone gains, it's a win-win situation: reviewers are paid through traffic and views for the long length of time they took to read those terms in order to write the articles and gamblers don't have to be fearful of depositing at a casino because they haven't read a dozen of pages at the casino website. Moreover, online casinos in general also win, because many of them are being promoted on the reviews' websites.
Highlighting would really be just enough,there's no need for you to read up the entire text just to know on what are those prohibitions which might
really be that affecting you.

1. Country restriction
2. VPN access
3. Deposit/Withdrawal limits
4. KYC requirements

Once you do able to spot out these information and check it out whether it does affect you or not, then youre good to go.
With those terms on which most of the time it would really be just that indeed the same. You would really be just needing to snip
out on whats important so that you wont really be that wasting up your time on reading up the whole text.

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December 17, 2023, 07:12:56 PM
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Even myself dont really have that sufficient or preferred time on reading up on everything on which i would really be that skipping it out all  the time.
I also don't read terms and conditions when signing up at an online casino. I prefer to read summarized reviews about the respective casino on the internet, because the people who wrote the reviews already read and highlighted the most important points of the terms for the audience, so they don't have to spend their time on it.

This way everyone gains, it's a win-win situation: reviewers are paid through traffic and views for the long length of time they took to read those terms in order to write the articles and gamblers don't have to be fearful of depositing at a casino because they haven't read a dozen of pages at the casino website. Moreover, online casinos in general also win, because many of them are being promoted on the reviews' websites.
Reviews are not always reliable, especially if they are not from a trusted source. A casino can always pay $20 to a blogger to write very good things about them and publish it for the audience to see and read. Even if a certain review isn't paid or fake, you can't have any idea about the terms and conditions of the platform by reading the article. An article about Stake will only give you a review about their services, their website, customer support, etc. It wouldn't tell you anything about the terms and conditions.

Even though it's not mandatory, I believe it's important for someone to read the terms and conditions before joining a platform if they have plans of staying there for long and are also going to entrust them with their KYC information. It will make things more clear for the gambler and for the support as well if the gambler gets into trouble later on.

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December 17, 2023, 07:23:36 PM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?

I have said this before and I'm going to repeat it again, if you are not going to do KYC, don't deposit money on any casino or any betting platform that will request for KYC later in the future, the reason is that there is every tendency they will require you to do KYC and you know what is risky about restricting account if they request for KYC, they might reject it even if you provide all the documents you have including passport and proof of residential with financial documents, the best thing to do first are you either avoid casino that required a KYC or do the KYC to avoid problems later.

Make sure you read the terms and conditions, especially the bonus part, many gamblers are usually attracted by this bonus but when they deposit, there is a condition attached to this bonus. In addition, make sure that your country is allowed on that platform because they might not ban your IP address but will state it in their terms and conditions and if you mistakenly accept the terms and conditions of having power to block your account, then you are only feeding the gambling platform without proper initial investigation

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December 17, 2023, 08:24:53 PM
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Highlighting would really be just enough,there's no need for you to read up the entire text just to know on what are those prohibitions which might
really be that affecting you.

1. Country restriction
2. VPN access
3. Deposit/Withdrawal limits
4. KYC requirements

Once you do able to spot out these information and check it out whether it does affect you or not, then youre good to go.
With those terms on which most of the time it would really be just that indeed the same. You would really be just needing to snip
out on whats important so that you wont really be that wasting up your time on reading up the whole text.
The terms and conditions at each casino are the same as the summary of the 4 prohibitions that you have posted or there are several other prohibitive conditions, but even though they are rarely applied to casinos, we just pay attention to the terms and conditions, even if only briefly, to ensure that there are no conditions that are detrimental to gamblers/users. I think gamblers no longer want to verify KYC on gambling because they want to be anonymous and don't want their gambling identity to be published, but they have no choice because almost all casino sites have to complete account KYC and may still give dispensations for withdrawals without KYC but for certain withdrawal limits .
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December 17, 2023, 08:37:42 PM
Last edit: December 17, 2023, 08:48:00 PM by AmoreJaz
 #106

Highlighting would really be just enough,there's no need for you to read up the entire text just to know on what are those prohibitions which might
really be that affecting you.

1. Country restriction
2. VPN access
3. Deposit/Withdrawal limits
4. KYC requirements

Once you do able to spot out these information and check it out whether it does affect you or not, then youre good to go.
With those terms on which most of the time it would really be just that indeed the same. You would really be just needing to snip
out on whats important so that you wont really be that wasting up your time on reading up the whole text.
The terms and conditions at each casino are the same as the summary of the 4 prohibitions that you have posted or there are several other prohibitive conditions, but even though they are rarely applied to casinos, we just pay attention to the terms and conditions, even if only briefly, to ensure that there are no conditions that are detrimental to gamblers/users. I think gamblers no longer want to verify KYC on gambling because they want to be anonymous and don't want their gambling identity to be published, but they have no choice because almost all casino sites have to complete account KYC and may still give dispensations for withdrawals without KYC but for certain withdrawal limits .

the KYC requirements these days seemed to be the normal route in most casinos already as they are getting their license for this business. because the competition today is very different than in early days. also, government authorities are already involved in most crypto-related businesses and gambling of course won't slip from their eyes because this is one of the most lucrative industries not only in crypto but also in fiat. so as much as possible, they would want to partake on this business as they can get good revenue if it is under their jurisdiction.

and in addition with deposit/withdrawal limits, you can check as well their requirements because most casinos are implementing their wagering requirements. lucky for you if they will only ask you to at least wager some like in stake, or at least 1x wagering requirement. but for some sites, they would require 2x or more, even if you haven't availed their deposit bonus. so be on the lookout of this wagering requirement as well. because such requirement can easily bust your funds if you are not too careful with your games.

do remember, if you are a high roller or even a small one, checking their terms is a must. it is the common ground for both the owners and the players. it is made to establish the protocols one should observed if they want to use their services. else, better look for a more laid back site but of course, your funds may have high probability of getting rekkt

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December 17, 2023, 08:41:12 PM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?

If a person is to engage and register in any platform he must know the terms and conditions so that he knows the limitations, rights and responsibility involved in signing in that platform but sadly most of the gambler just simply open the site fill up forms for sign up and click agree to the terms without reading them. I am also used to be one of those people but after experiencing several gamblers creating threads about how they are unable to withdraw their funds from the casino and then later on learned that they are breaching terms written on the agreed ToS, I am somehow force myself to read ToS in order to avoid such situation.

I just look for the account terms, the KYC requirement and the do's and don'ts of the casino.  
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December 17, 2023, 09:34:15 PM
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I am not one to read the Tos, and it is something that seems very annoying to me, but it is something that must be done, because otherwise things can go wrong for us players, and when they do something to us in the casino, well when We complain, they can tell us that it was in the Tos, and there is nothing to do there, especially when it is with the bonds, in the bonds there are a lot of Tos and that is something that can turn out to be very long to read, because the requirements They are just very big, I really don't know why, but it's better that when it comes to that there aren't so many problems, of course that's what I could recommend.

Only when we take a look at the Reputation Section in the casino is when we have to realize that we do have to read the Tos, there is no way there can be excuses, when I go to register in a casino I must have a lot of time to read it, Sometimes I don't like that, that's why I prefer the casinos I'm in that are reliable, old acquaintance is better than new to know, but giving Opportunity.

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December 17, 2023, 10:08:08 PM
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Even myself dont really have that sufficient or preferred time on reading up on everything on which i would really be that skipping it out all  the time.
I also don't read terms and conditions when signing up at an online casino. I prefer to read summarized reviews about the respective casino on the internet, because the people who wrote the reviews already read and highlighted the most important points of the terms for the audience, so they don't have to spend their time on it.

This way everyone gains, it's a win-win situation: reviewers are paid through traffic and views for the long length of time they took to read those terms in order to write the articles and gamblers don't have to be fearful of depositing at a casino because they haven't read a dozen of pages at the casino website. Moreover, online casinos in general also win, because many of them are being promoted on the reviews' websites.

It's a great idea to learn from the ideas of others who have read the lengthy terms of services, and the honest reviews of members who've experienced the faults of the online casino. In most cases, the problem is that the first few people who only depend on the review sites, still face problems for not reading terms and conditions. The review site, almost every new week, you'd see fresh reviews of gamblers who are facing the problem of not being observant while reading the review site or even the highlighted terms and conditions in the casino. However, reaching out to these review sites may not seem satisfying, especially for a new online casino. Though people are not advised to patronize new casinos, the mistakes we see daily come from players who play in fresh casinos. And these players can't find many reviews about the casino. Thereby becoming the first set of people to try the casino. In a situation like this, it's important to read the TOS of that casino.

What we see as online reviews may not be sufficient enough to keep us safe from being a victim of a few mistakes. Reading across such disputes, It's never noticed that a gambler blamed the review sites for not giving out the complete information about a casino. However, some review sites also write lengthy content regarding the way a casino operates. Hence, reading directly from the casino shouldn't be a problem after glancing at the review sites, and the rules of a specific casino. The idea of patronizing the review sites so that they'll earn through affiliate offers or other methods of monetizing traffic is nice. But, if we get a problem wouldn't it affect us, while the review sites enjoy their money generated via traffic? When dealing with money, being cautious of the decisions we make is important. An idea may be worth it for one player and wouldn't make sense for another. In a condition where many gamblers complain on review sites the problem of gambling mistakes like blocking of accounts with no pay still strives. Then the review sites aren't doing enough to help these gamblers. The right choice is for individual players to understand that the ball is on their court. And do their own research.

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December 17, 2023, 10:24:29 PM
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I don't. I confess I have actually not take the time to read the terms and conditions of the casinos I have joined, I have mostly trusted the reputation of them, since I have mostly gone for casinos which are big enough and have been around much time for them to be shady or scammy. Nevertheless, since I joined this community here in Bitcointalk I have learned some tricks for all of us to shitfy check the most important parts of the terms or service of any casinos. Because, we all know that the most important part when comes to the service a casino provides comes from a limited number of features where most our interest lies: withdrawals, Regional areas served, account termination, refunds, etc. Keeping in mind those are the terms we are likely most interested in, then it just takes for us to make use of the tool to search in the webpage of the ToS of the casino to quickly have an idea of the most important aspects of what we are accepting by creating an account there.

Unfortunately, not reading the terms of service is something which is not limited to casinos and the world of gambling, it also happened when anyone downloads software or sign up onto social media. I have a Twitter account and I have not yet taken my time to know what kind of terms I accepted when I first entered on there.  

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December 18, 2023, 03:45:11 AM
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The point is to capture several important points in the terms and conditions, in which you actually don't need to read them completely and I'm sure it won't take a lot of time to read them. Of course, there are articles that you don't understand about the law. You can skip them and then look for the important points that you should Remember not to break site rules in the future just because you didn't read them.

For me, the little gambler probably doesn't read too much there, usually the rules are not much different from other sites, especially since we all often share discussions about what is prohibited and what is allowed when gambling on this forum based on the terms and conditions as long as it only discusses the important part. is more than enough. But just in case, it's important for anyone to read it if they have free time  Grin

back in 2021, my friend got DM by some stranger in a telegram and he said needed another "exchange" account to withdraw the money. My friend just said yes and then money was transferred from the stranger's account to the friend's account and it contained 1.3 BTC which is definitely a lot of money. But when my friend decided to withdraw it but the term of service said you need deposit around 500$ to able to withdraw.

That is definitely a red flag and i do believe this is new way to scammer people who don't read tos carefully

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December 18, 2023, 05:12:04 AM
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A gambler can read or ignore the terms and conditions of a casino platform when they first register on the platform. Even though it is very long and sometimes boring, never ignore these terms and conditions because there are several parts that need to be read, such as KYC, deposits and withdrawals, and other things, which users need to know.
I myself didn't read all the terms and conditions, because they were too long. However, I use the help of AI to summarize the terms and conditions to understand only the important points that relate to my game.

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December 18, 2023, 05:19:42 AM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?
Nah, I personally don't read it to be honest. It is really gets you boring reading that lengthy terms but yeah I think majority of gamblers don't read it as well. As a gambler I only think the important thing like what's commonly prohibited or the "don'ts and do's" of every casino either online or offline to avoid future problems.

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December 18, 2023, 06:06:14 AM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?
Nah, I personally don't read it to be honest. It is really gets you boring reading that lengthy terms but yeah I think majority of gamblers don't read it as well. As a gambler I only think the important thing like what's commonly prohibited or the "don'ts and do's" of every casino either online or offline to avoid future problems.

many gamblers are just like you, sometimes we have no time to scroll those lenghty terms and conditions because we get bored and find it quite to understand and sometimes the reason why you don't read it is because of your trust about the gambling company but at least somehow, we all lend a time to read it because it's for our own safety.



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December 18, 2023, 06:45:35 AM
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Even myself dont really have that sufficient or preferred time on reading up on everything on which i would really be that skipping it out all  the time.
I also don't read terms and conditions when signing up at an online casino. I prefer to read summarized reviews about the respective casino on the internet, because the people who wrote the reviews already read and highlighted the most important points of the terms for the audience, so they don't have to spend their time on it.

This way everyone gains, it's a win-win situation: reviewers are paid through traffic and views for the long length of time they took to read those terms in order to write the articles and gamblers don't have to be fearful of depositing at a casino because they haven't read a dozen of pages at the casino website. Moreover, online casinos in general also win, because many of them are being promoted on the reviews' websites.
Good reviews is a way to know about a casino whether they are worth using or not. There are sites too we can see bad review of different projects and companies but that does not mean we should depend on them. Review is nothing since they can be compromised anytime especially if the reviewing sites like collect ling bribes from casinos and companies to rate them high.

I have seen many good reviews on trust pilot that are good and unique when they are supposed to be more of negativity on a bad casinos that is very obvious and known. This kind of review can mislead people to register on such casino and end up not been able to withdraw their funds.

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December 18, 2023, 09:22:06 AM
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Reading terms and conditions of casino have I done that before  Roll Eyes? Nah I don't think so even in some websites i use. Because most of the casino I've used are the one recommended to me by a friend so I don't take my time reading their terms and conditions . But now I'm seeing this post ready drag my interest, what all most gambler think about is the amount they her aiming for. And the fun they will catch doing it. So I guess I haven't.

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Reading terms and conditions of casino have I done that before  Roll Eyes? Nah I don't think so even in some websites i use. Because most of the casino I've used are the one recommended to me by a friend so I don't take my time reading their terms and conditions . But now I'm seeing this post ready drag my interest, what all most gambler think about is the amount they her aiming for. And the fun they will catch doing it. So I guess I haven't.
Trams & Conditions contain a lot of content which takes a lot of time to read due to which most of the users do not show interest in reading it.  This is not only the case with casino sites. When installing an application, investing somewhere, or having an account on another site, reading the terms and conditions is very annoying. Also, where gamblers are addicted to gambling, no one likes to spend time reading trams to register an account on a gambling site. I never read them myself too
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Reading terms and conditions of casino have I done that before  Roll Eyes? Nah I don't think so even in some websites i use. Because most of the casino I've used are the one recommended to me by a friend so I don't take my time reading their terms and conditions . But now I'm seeing this post ready drag my interest, what all most gambler think about is the amount they her aiming for. And the fun they will catch doing it. So I guess I haven't.
I guess even in the games, you've never done that? Who's the one still reads all of these long lines and terms about the casinos that we're signing up? We just go ahead, check that check box and we're all done right? But honestly, there's an importance why we still need to read it. I bet that most of us only read a few lines of it when we have to because of some problems that we might deal with the casino that we're playing.

Like they freeze, ban or do something with our account and based on them, they're doing it based on the violation that we've done. And the first thing that comes to our minds is to review the TOS and look if there's some significance of their actions to our accounts. And then, we'll find it out that they just did the right thing and we did an honest mistake but, there it goes, their decisions are final and we can't do anything with it anymore.

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December 18, 2023, 10:34:55 AM
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Reading terms and conditions of casino have I done that before  Roll Eyes? Nah I don't think so even in some websites i use. Because most of the casino I've used are the one recommended to me by a friend so I don't take my time reading their terms and conditions . But now I'm seeing this post ready drag my interest, what all most gambler think about is the amount they her aiming for. And the fun they will catch doing it. So I guess I haven't.
Trams & Conditions contain a lot of content which takes a lot of time to read due to which most of the users do not show interest in reading it.  This is not only the case with casino sites. When installing an application, investing somewhere, or having an account on another site, reading the terms and conditions is very annoying. Also, where gamblers are addicted to gambling, no one likes to spend time reading trams to register an account on a gambling site. I never read them myself too
Everything would be explained all when it comes to their terms and what are the rules that had been set out. If you are really that someone whose really that mindful about on the slightest details and you dont really like on getting locked just because you have missed out on reading up those terms then it would be always wise on reading it up. I cant really jut blame out other people
on why they do always miss out on reading up those TOS on which we know that they are really that almost the same. They would be assuming that it would be just the same,
difference is only on the country being banned or prohibited or vpn allowed. So they would really be always having a habit on to miss out those things.

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Reading terms and conditions of casino have I done that before  Roll Eyes? Nah I don't think so even in some websites i use. Because most of the casino I've used are the one recommended to me by a friend so I don't take my time reading their terms and conditions . But now I'm seeing this post ready drag my interest, what all most gambler think about is the amount they her aiming for. And the fun they will catch doing it. So I guess I haven't.

If you don't love to read you won't read the TOS because it's too long, but there's always an assurance that when you are gambling in a reputable website, their rules are based on standards. Most of the concerns only are the KYC process, so if you aren't ready to comply with that, that should worry you, and if you still want to continue gambling, make sure you don't put a decent amount of money as funds can be frozen once the rules are being activated against you.

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