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Author Topic: Do you take time to read the terms and conditions of casinos before registering?  (Read 3099 times)
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December 23, 2023, 08:40:01 AM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?
Even as I know how it's important to read the terms and conditions before registration in any platform be it casino or any other type of platform, I won't lie that am a victim not actually doing the readings of the terms and conditions. Well the main reason for this first would be the fact that the whole terms and conditions something are written to actually irritate the gambler and by this I mean the font and size at which some of these terms are written. While another would be the fact that most people are just too lazy to do it.

Does it make any change, reading the terms and conditions? In most ways it does, and reading the terms of service of a casino doesn't mean that the gambler would have to do that in one day. The most important of those rules would be shared on different platforms or discussed in the chat box of the casino website. I've seen top casino terms like the prohibition of certain regions or countries being discussed on review sites. The punishable offense makes it to the discussion boards of the casino's blog or forum discussions. So, if a person is too lazy to read a few important terms of a service where he wagers money, he should endeavor to research the few rules that have got people talking. Others who read it may have done this to enlighten others who didn't. I don't see it as a difficult task to glance at the crucial aspects of a casino's rules and abide by the terms not to lose our money or account. Most people have lost their accounts and money, due to the failure to read those few words of advice on what to do in a casino.

Imagine playing from a prohibited region, what could be the joy of the gambler when he wins and is being denied of his money? You'd see them, most times, running to online forums seeking help and blaming the casino for not being good to gamblers. While the problem is from the gambler because he didn't read their terms of service. Hence, it's very important to set out time and glance through it, I could remember reading them, and it wasn't a difficult task. It looks too long, but once you begin, the process gets easier and you start to enjoy the read. The writers are also marvelous writers, they make the long read memorable. I noticed that review writers mostly read those write-ups to make up a competent review about the casino. Using them for your information about a casino could be nice for non readers, but always hear from the horse's mouth.

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December 23, 2023, 09:51:13 AM
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Well, I admit to myself that I never read all of the Terms and Conditions of the casino. I could blame myself if ever I violated their rules rather than complaining but it doesn't mean that I was new to how things work out. In fact, without reading we can also ask directly for their support about KYC requirements. Now, it was hard to find gambling sites that never asked for KYC because the majority have been doing this (probably because the government requires them to collect basic information about the registrant). Therefore, I would say that you better prepare to do that as the casino may not ask upon registration but later on, they will implement it.
It is very rare for people to read the terms and conditions of a casino, I myself have never even read the terms because after I created an account all I had in mind was to play the games on the site and I have never had any problems in the games I played.
Before carrying out KYC, of course we have to see whether the site will guarantee the data we have given them or whether they don't care about our data, so it would be better for us to choose a gambling site that doesn't have any problems.
If you care about the security of your identity, you should at least consider reading the ToS. All the important information needed for your security was there. Reading it from start to end is not required, you should know the key points of what you are looking for in certain gambling sites. And for the above statement, asking the chat support about the KYC requirements, I'm not saying it is bad to ask them, but they have already provided the information about KYC requirements and all we need to do is read it, so why not be responsible and find the answer by exploring the website.


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December 23, 2023, 01:43:18 PM
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If you care about the security of your identity, you should at least consider reading the ToS. All the important information needed for your security was there. Reading it from start to end is not required, you should know the key points of what you are looking for in certain gambling sites. And for the above statement, asking the chat support about the KYC requirements, I'm not saying it is bad to ask them, but they have already provided the information about KYC requirements and all we need to do is read it, so why not be responsible and find the answer by exploring the website.
I agree with what you say because by reading the ToS, at least we know what rules the casino applies to its gamblers. We also know what we can and cannot do, and we can also know about the KYC requirements that the casino will ask for. Apart from that, by reading the rules, we will know that there are differences in regulations between one casino and another so that we can choose the casino we want. We don't need to continue registering at a particular casino if we see that there are rules that we don't want. Reading the casino rules makes us more responsible with ourselves, and if we are required to do KYC, we are ready to hand over our personal documents to the casino. And if we object to the requirements put forward by the casino, we can immediately move to another casino before we do KYC and the casino does not force us to do KYC. So we do KYC with our consciousness, which means we are responsible for ourselves.

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December 23, 2023, 02:08:13 PM
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To be frank, I personally rarely read the agreements when registering on a casino site as they are usually standard. I pay more attention to the tariffs, the list of banned countries, the list of accepted cryptocurrencies, as well as the conditions for withdrawal of funds
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December 23, 2023, 02:30:16 PM
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Myself I do take my time to read all the necessary things concerning a casino gambling instructions before I can as well do anything in accordance with any platform, because when you don't take your time to read the gambling site instructions won't be able to understand the measure of the platform, so therefore for we to understand the platform very we what we needed is to take our time to go through the terms and conditions of the platform,  so many people have challenges of platform due to what they have in mind is not to engage in a kyc verification whereas the terms and conditions of the platform demands kyc, so after everything they began to have issues with the site
Just need to snip out those important key notes or informations which you would really be needing to read up and not
on the whole agreement.

1. KYC rules
2. Restricted countries
3. Account limitations

These are the most common information that would really be changed up and this is why its not really that shocking
that people do miss out because they do believe that each casino do have the same terms and conditions which is
really very wrong assumption.

Yes, basically that's it, although we as players always want to know more information, sometimes you can find some important things, about bonuses in general, all of that is good to know so that there are no problems Later , but there are things that Cannot be stopped like the In the case of KYC , of prohibited countries, especially if a VPN is used to access, which seems to me that all casinos Should accept playing with a VPN, what Really matters if we go to the most basic thing is that the person plays, has fun, no Matter what country it is , I believe that we all should and have the same right to enjoy and not that a government or several determine that you cannot play from country X because no , no , things must change , you just have to see it from the most reasonable point of view, in a crypto casino there are identifications, prohibitions, so this goes against crypto, because for that, those who want to stay with their regulations go with their casino of fit money, that they are regulated and not impota, that they do what they want.

But what can be said now? Since everything is Already Centralized , there will come a time where everyone has to declare their bitcoin because it is not Allowed and those who make Transactions with bitcoin anonymously will be arrested, because even the mixers no longer allow them, which seems absurd to me, but hey. What is going to be done, here what matters is that the casinos start to be a little more permissive, what a good way to offer what People want , more Freedom , more things without so much KYC , not Sticking everything to the regulations the licenses that is something that we are because of those licenses, therefore we are people who must Stop and slow down everything at the right time, otherwise everything will really happen at a time that in each casino account we will have to put our face picture.

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December 23, 2023, 02:39:58 PM
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I think I have never read ToS fully anywhere. If it is a software, theb I am 100% sure I have never read it. If it a a casino, they I just ctrl+f in ToS to check which countries are eligible for registration, if this is not stated in FAQ. Never checked anything about account limitation. I only check supported crypto, and recently started to check withdrawal fees and limits.

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December 23, 2023, 02:44:34 PM
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To be frank, I personally rarely read the agreements when registering on a casino site as they are usually standard. I pay more attention to the tariffs, the list of banned countries, the list of accepted cryptocurrencies, as well as the conditions for withdrawal of funds

Most of us here do the same since ToS is just an elaborate description and terms of the casino which is already self-explanatory when you are already a regular gambler. I read a couple of ToS before when I’m newbie to make sure what to look out and I become tired reading it from different casino since they just varies in minimal way.

You’re right on the point that you mention about what to lookout on ToS to save time. I believe only those whales that deposit huge amount of money are the one obligated to read carefully the ToS since they have a lot to lose with just a simple mistake of overlooking the casino rules.

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December 23, 2023, 03:00:44 PM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?
Of course I read. Not everything, as there really is a lot of text, but the main points for me are the kyc policy, how it works and what documents they need, and the second point is in the jurisdiction of which country they work. I think it’s better to read everything in advance than to write later in support with the same questions, while wasting both your time and theirs.
I have a personal rule: everything related to money and where it is stored should be studied as much as possible so that there are no unpleasant surprises later.
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December 23, 2023, 03:44:11 PM
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When I first entered the world of online gambling, of course I read it because I wanted to know what was there as stated in the rules. This happened when I got to know online gambling, and naturally I always do online gambling with different sites, but with I'm so used to this that I don't read it completely anymore, at the moment I only read about minimum deposits and minimum withdrawals, and I ignore this, I don't know how to differentiate between trusted sites and fraudulent sites, because I once experienced a bad thing, where I got a win and I withdrew it, do you know what happened? The winnings that I withdrew were not paid by the site, for some reason that is clear, I can't understand why there are sites that cheat like that. Even though I tried to communicate with the staff at the gambling site, I got no results, I left empty-handed.

Even though I gamble just for fun, not to chase wins, there's nothing wrong with being upset that the winnings I withdrew were not paid. My advice is to be careful when gambling online, don't choose the wrong site.

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December 23, 2023, 04:01:56 PM
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I've seen countless gamblers bite the dust, their winnings frozen due to a missed clause or an ignored rule change. Remember, ignorance ain't bliss in the casinoverse, it's a one-way ticket to heartbreak.

Look, KYC might feel like a buzzkill, an intrusion into the freedom of digital anonymity. But it's also how casinos stay legit, how they keep the bad guys out and the money flowing towards the right pockets. It's like that annoying bouncer at the club – yeah, they might ask for ID and pat you down, but they're also the reason you don't have to dodge flying beer bottles.

Now, here's the rub: choosing between KYC and casinos without it is like picking between the devil and the deep blue sea. Finding a reputable, feature-packed casino that skips KYC is about as easy as spotting a unicorn at a rodeo. You might get lucky, but chances are slim. So, the real choice is between playing it safe with KYC and enjoying the full casino experience, or taking a risk with non-KYC options and potentially facing withdrawal woes or shady characters.

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December 23, 2023, 05:31:27 PM
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Yeah, TOS documents can be real snoozefests.  All that legal jargon going on and on.  Makes your eyes glaze over, right? But actually paying attention to the fine print can save you some major headaches down the road if something goes wrong at an online casino and 

Here's the deal: The TOS lays out the rules of engagement between you and the casino.  It may be boring, but it tells you important stuff like how disputes get handled, your rights as a player and rules around bonuses and promotions.  If you don't read it and end up having issues, the casino can just point to the TOS.  So do yourself a favor and suffering through the legalese so you know what you are agreeing to.  That way if problems pop up later, you'll be prepared and know your options. 

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December 23, 2023, 06:10:26 PM
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When I first entered the world of online gambling, of course I read it because I wanted to know what was there as stated in the rules. This happened when I got to know online gambling, and naturally I always do online gambling with different sites, but with I'm so used to this that I don't read it completely anymore, at the moment I only read about minimum deposits and minimum withdrawals, and I ignore this, I don't know how to differentiate between trusted sites and fraudulent sites, because I once experienced a bad thing, where I got a win and I withdrew it, do you know what happened? The winnings that I withdrew were not paid by the site, for some reason that is clear, I can't understand why there are sites that cheat like that. Even though I tried to communicate with the staff at the gambling site, I got no results, so I left empty-handed.

Even though I gamble just for fun, not to chase wins, there's nothing wrong with being upset that the winnings I withdrew were not paid. My advice is to be careful when gambling online, don't choose the wrong site.
The fact that I want to have fun will not make me to take things with negligence because gambling is for fun for me just like you and I agree with everything you said about the need to read the terms and conditions of a casino before we make any form of commitment to them and that is for sure the reasons why I said that gambling should only involve well-informed decision with the knowledge of what the risk that awaits them,  many times,  those gamblers that have problem with some casinos is because of none understanding of the terms and conditions of the casino and also a violation of the terms due to ignorance.

Some gamblers just rush after bonuses that why they will not take the time to read and understand the terms and conditions of the casino before making an account on them and also many of those casinos that have issues with those gamblers always come from either the casino is a scam which luck the players out when their make big winning,  or the gamblers have abuse or violated the casino rules,  aside from this two factor which comes from both the casino and the gambler none raised any legitimate concern along this time.
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December 23, 2023, 06:19:19 PM
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Yes I do take the time back when I still am looking for the casinos that I want to play in and as boring as it might sound, it's such a crucial thing for me to do because that would mean I won't be surrendering my rights to that casino or any other platform for that matter, I can't put an exact time of how long I read the Terms and Conditions but depending on how complex the words are and the terms and conditions presented to me, probably take me the whole day so I can be sure that I understand them but that's the past now because with the aid of AI like ChatGPT, Claude and Bard, I'm able to just copy and paste the whole terms and conditions and let them analyze the texts and have it summarized, that's my prompt most of the time but if I want to be safer, I also add a filter to the AI where it finds what I need to know about the website's terms and conditions so I'm not spending a lot of time anymore so in a way, I'm both not reading and reading the terms and conditions. I can't be ashamed of it though, my work in the real world needs to take priority especially as a fresh graduate.

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December 23, 2023, 06:25:46 PM
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To be frank, I personally rarely read the agreements when registering on a casino site as they are usually standard. I pay more attention to the tariffs, the list of banned countries, the list of accepted cryptocurrencies, as well as the conditions for withdrawal of funds
You are not alone 😁, I can guess that only few percentage of gamblers actually read the terms and conditions of any casino before they actually register on the site. I would like to believe that the write up alone can make you scared of reading it that's if you are the type that get scared if bulky write up just like the type JJG constructs here in the forum. Sometimes I wonder if that user JJG is even human at all, I mean the quality and quantity of his writing is very perculiar. Well like you I tend to focus more on the region that's restricted because this can lead to the casino actually confiscating your winning if you actually do win.

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December 23, 2023, 06:52:05 PM
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To be frank, I personally rarely read the agreements when registering on a casino site as they are usually standard. I pay more attention to the tariffs, the list of banned countries, the list of accepted cryptocurrencies, as well as the conditions for withdrawal of funds

True, to be honest I think most people including me also do the same thing as you do but maybe it is done only by people who are familiar with some of the sites they have tried, because after all usually the ToS that is displayed is not much different, a list of accepted cryptocurrencies and also with a minimum/maximum amount of withdrawal as you mentioned, of course they only read a few things they need which of course can facilitate them during their involvement. But on the other hand I think for new people who have certainly never been involved in any kind of online gambling before I should advise them to read all the ToS that are displayed, after all an understanding of some knowledge related to the casino they just entered is important for the initial stages of involvement.


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December 24, 2023, 03:24:39 AM
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When I first entered the world of online gambling, of course I read it because I wanted to know what was there as stated in the rules. This happened when I got to know online gambling, and naturally I always do online gambling with different sites, but with I'm so used to this that I don't read it completely anymore, at the moment I only read about minimum deposits and minimum withdrawals, and I ignore this, I don't know how to differentiate between trusted sites and fraudulent sites, because I once experienced a bad thing, where I got a win and I withdrew it, do you know what happened? The winnings that I withdrew were not paid by the site, for some reason that is clear, I can't understand why there are sites that cheat like that. Even though I tried to communicate with the staff at the gambling site, I got no results, so I left empty-handed.

Even though I gamble just for fun, not to chase wins, there's nothing wrong with being upset that the winnings I withdrew were not paid. My advice is to be careful when gambling online, don't choose the wrong site.
The fact that I want to have fun will not make me to take things with negligence because gambling is for fun for me just like you and I agree with everything you said about the need to read the terms and conditions of a casino before we make any form of commitment to them and that is for sure the reasons why I said that gambling should only involve well-informed decision with the knowledge of what the risk that awaits them,  many times,  those gamblers that have problem with some casinos is because of none understanding of the terms and conditions of the casino and also a violation of the terms due to ignorance.

Some gamblers just rush after bonuses that why they will not take the time to read and understand the terms and conditions of the casino before making an account on them and also many of those casinos that have issues with those gamblers always come from either the casino is a scam which luck the players out when their make big winning,  or the gamblers have abuse or violated the casino rules,  aside from this two factor which comes from both the casino and the gambler none raised any legitimate concern along this time.

they also sometimes have problems with their own gambling which they do because they cannot control themselves well so they experience losses in large amounts, yes indeed for slot gambling many of those who do online slot gambling probably do not take the time to read the terms and conditions that apply to the site, because maybe they are used to it so they only pay attention to the minimum deposit and minimum withdrawal provisions, this has become a habit among gamblers, because they will get the site perhaps from their friends who Their friends said the site was good, it was easy to get the winnings, that alone they were confident enough so they would register and gamble.

Of course, many sites provide bonuses that tempt them, and make them gamble without hesitation and without hesitation in making deposits on that site. but in my opinion it's just a slogan, maybe it's true, but it won't be easy to win in gambling.

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December 24, 2023, 03:51:27 AM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?
Most of us use them without paying much attention to those regulations, and I personally find it unnecessary when players and services have to be forced into things that are probably only beneficial to the service before legal issues. Some things still exist, such as coercion and if I have a defense point of view, I can also agree with that, but only a small part, but it is not too important if we want to use a service, there's nothing stopping it. But anyway, I do not encourage behavior that violates the law, because nowadays, the gambling industry is so popular and choosing any service is really like buying shirts at the market.









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December 24, 2023, 04:00:45 AM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?
I have been reviewing the casino platform that I have registered an account for gambling on for some time. Because the platform I participate in for betting must be reviewed. I have seen there minimum withdrawal minimum deposit. Also I also noticed there whether the platform I will be participating in for betting has KYC. But I created account on most trusted casino side and reviewed everything beforehand. Before creating an account at any casino, it is the first step of every person to check everything about that casino platform.

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December 24, 2023, 04:07:35 AM
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The whole terms? I have to be honest that I do not read the whole terms but I'll just try to find the things that I consider as the most important terms for me. Things like KYC, Restricted jurisdictions, anything related to deposit and withdraw. Reading the whole terms is just waste of time imho and I dont think there is a gambler in this world who read the whole terms before registering. Maybe some people read the whole terms for specific purpose such as making review, having an issue, etc.

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December 24, 2023, 04:33:36 AM
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Ordinary people who place bets on prominent sites do not find it very necessary to read the terms and conditions though it is important for every user to read this TOS. But such behavior of gamblers is often seen who are not interested to read. I think about 90 percent of gamblers don't read these terms and conditions clearly. But it would not be great problem for reputed sites but on a new site it can create big problems. If a gambler chooses a new site, there are certainly some major rules he should know before gambling.

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